The Crazy World Of Simpsons Memes (with Andy K)
This week Dando is joined by arguably the most controversial name in the Simpsons meme community, it's Andy K! We discuss the controversies that come with being an admin in a Simpsons meme group, as well go in-depth into the now iconic "$50" story. You know the one.
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2023-11-07
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This podcast is brought to you by Patreon dot com slash four Finger Discount, home to all of our exclusive shows including Tales of Futurama, Talking Seinfeld, Speaking of the Hill, The Movie Guys, and so much more. Plus you also get a whole range of cromulent goodies that are short term and beg in your life. So go ahead and support the show today by joining the four Finger Discount family on Patreon. Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome to another episode of four Finger Discount Extra hit on the four Finger Discount Network home, of course, your host Brendan Dando, and today's guest is a doozy. This is a man who I've been wanting to talk to you for quite some time now. Basically, I'm going to say he's the most controversial name in the Simpsons meme community, whether it be in all the various groups on Facebook or Instagram or whatever. He is none other than Andy Kay. And if you following our page or if you are a member of any of the groups, you know who this man is, Andy Kay. And we discuss in depth his rollercoaster journey in the Simpsons Mean World. Most notably, Andy goes into great detail about the now iconic fifty dollars controversy. And if you are a fan of the Simpsons memes, if you're a fan of if you're a member of the groups, you know exactly what I'm talking about when when I mention the fifty dollars story. If not, you're in for a doozy either way, there is. It's amazing how many controversies there can be in the Simpsons meme groups. And Andy, being an admin of various pages, he tells us all about it and it's a really interesting story. So I can't wait to let you guys listen to this. But before we do that, please follow him on Instagram. He has a very successful Instagram page. It is at Simpsons Underscore Meme Underscore Factory, So at Simpsons Mean Factory where he posts all of these memes up there now And yeah, he's fantastic or what he does. Also, I forget that on the for figurescat Network, not only do I do this show every single Tuesday four figure Extra where I just have a common station with someone in the Simpsons online community or cast and crewmember. Next week can be chatting to Carolyn, a me name, iconic Simpsons writer. So look out for that one in your feeds. But we also do reviews on Thursdays as well with my co host Guy Davis. We are currently on season eighteens and I've mentioned roller Coaster before and that season's a bit of roller coaster as well. So if you enjoy The Simpsons, which obviously you do, you can get new episodes of four Finger Discount every Tuesday and Thursday. But only that. We also have a south Park podcast going down to south Park where we drop new episodes every single Monday. And if you enjoy friends, I do a show with my wife Nicola called The One of Our Friends. We drop new episodes every single Wednesday. 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It is time for me to let you guys sit back and enjoy my conversation with the One the Only Andy Kay. I mean, all I do is podcasts these days. But man, you said you've got two small catality your kids six and a half and one before next week. Okay myself, I pity you. Man, I've got a five year old and an almost three year old on the weekend and holy shit, like pick them up from daycare, dinner time, bed time. It is just a circus that just feels like grandhole day. Right. It's madness, man. I mean, at the end of the day, I guess I know. I expected parenthood to be a challenge, to say the least, and there's been parts where I thought, oh, this is just next level where you're like, you know, how am I going to get through this? And I'm talking like, you know, our youngest with sleep issues, college reflux, and sit my daughter had silent reflux, so I know you pay mate. Oh, the first eight months of our second born, basically he was waking every twenty to forty minutes. So my wife and I we were like literally zombies. I remember on my lunch breaks trying to muster up like the energy to go for a walk, and I was just dragging my feet and my mind was just in this haze, gone like what is this? This is not like, this is not living. But with anything, it passes and it gets easier. And look, you know, chat, there's going to always be challenges. But when you think you get past some of those initial stages and you can start doing more when you take them out and you know, you're a bit more social and you don't feel like it's kind of wrapping up your whole life in this kind of in this situation, it actually, you know, gets pretty enjoyable. And of course, you know, the positives obviously always outweigh the negatives. But yeah, man, I'm just it's been the last few years. Some crazy shit's gone on, but I think we're slowly at that point where you know, our artist is in prep, our second will be in prep, not next year, the year after. And look like you know, I'm sure like yourself, you've Every parent you know has their challenges. Some you know, have different experiences. But I don't think there's anyone on the planet who can be like, no, it's all being a brief and when they do, you're like, bullshit, yeah, absolutely bullshit. You're not yet I don't buy it for a second. And some like to betray it, like on social media, like they'll be like everything's amazing. Then look I get it, like you know, you're not going to be always posting the absolute shit and the lows. But I think sometimes that makes it more relatable when you do hear other people and you're like, you know, talk into mats who have kids, you know, similar ages or even different ages, it doesn't even matter, just saying you know, it's such and such has gone through this period where they won't eat and they run off at dinner time, or I can't get them to daycare in the morning. It's always such a struggle or they're not sleeping at night, they're coming into the room, whatever it might be. And honestly, I don't know about you, man, but I look back now at what my parents, you know, kind of I'm sure that they everything that they went through, and I have such a like a grade of fonder, you know, appreciation for you know, because at the time, you don't know, you don't have a clue. You just you're the kids. So you're just doing whatever the hell you want. But quite dad, basically basically so yeah, no, just long day man, working mornings and afternoons leading into bedtime. You know, it's pretty chaotic. But yeah, both boys are I think one's asleep and one's kind of too much. Yeah, I honestly I would have loved to have rolled the dice for a third if I could guarantee a girl. But I was just like another boy. It's already like there's no off button. It's just the second they're both up, they're they're just don't get yeah, and don't get me wrong, like they're actually quite in the scheme of things. Excuse me, like well behaved. It's just the constant just you know, there's no as I said, there's no off put button. It's just this constant high level of energy and loudness and just and it can you know, I'm a pretty chill guy, and it takes a lot for me to you know, kind of I get to that point where I'm just like, but you know, they if anyone can push those buttons, those boys can. But when they work out how to do it too, and you know, sometimes like you know, they figured it out and they're doing it just to you know, either test the boundaries or get a rise out of you. But it's all good, man, It's just it's just parenthood. Man. How do you find time to do Simpsons memes between all these things? Yeah? I get asked that a lot. So after having done this for what I think the first meme of at least the first Simpsons meme I ever made would have been twenty sixteen. So were you doing memes before the Simpsons ones? Was that sort of just you were doing memes and you transition ones? Yeah? Yeah, more just like just stuffing around with making memes about mates, giving them shit, just you know, croping their faces and you know, either making something like you know, I guess pop culture related at the time, with one of them or just something stupid. You were the meme guy at work with you? Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I mean I always had a bit of an art background, even though my job has literally nothing to do with that. And I always, you know, used to do studio arts and drawing and you know, graphic design when I was in high school. So I always you know, had, I guess, that artistic side, and I always loved The Simpsons, and somehow I don't even like I remember just falling you know, into I think it was the first page, was maybe even the first rock bottom, and I just started, you know, just making a few, as basic as it was, and I look back now and I'm just like, oh god, that's terrible. But it was just a bit of fun and it kind of just started to kind of steamroll from there where I guess they got a bit more popular, and you know that comes with the good and the bad, of course, you know, you know, that's just expected. You know. The more that the memes kind of became popular, you know, the more I guess haters came out of the closet too. Yeah, which which I want to touch on that show. It's just it was absolutely I can I can look. People who might hear this who already don't like me, I can explain I know, you know, people you know who do know me and love my stuff will agree, but I'm happy to touch on it now. The bottom line for me is I have never, once in my life ever gone to someone's meme and criticize them, given them shit. I just it just doesn't for me. It adds absolutely no value. What am I trying to achieve? Why am I bringing this person down and they're giving it a go unless you know, of course they're being complete dicks and they're being super racist, and even still I wouldn't say anything, but as like an admin, I would just boot them, like, you know, you, what are you doing? Like this is just you know, you're pushing a political view or you know, something misogynistic just for the sake of it and basically using Simpsons memes as a template like bullshit, don't do that. So we have the admin of a group or a page. I've been admin for like four groups. Yeah, I'm still admint, so rock bottom boat posting, so basically, well, at the moment, I'm not and again there's a long story behind that. I'm not going to go into it. But but look, I basically know all the admins. It was a misunderstanding where I was kind of flushing out a troll using the boat posting account to try and show that, you know, they were just basically even me shit because it was me, and you know, if I posted something as someone else and a blow and behold, they were commenting really nicely, this is awesome. And when I kind of said hey, it's it's it's end in this admin took it as you know, hey, you're using your authority to get like somebody, are you actually kidding me? Facebook groups? It's just so so in terms of the hate stuff, Look, this is how I look at it, and I've always looked at it. I appreciate, for whatever reason, some people don't like when someone or something gets popular. For some reason, they have perhaps some of their own issues going on, whether it's you know, I guess for a lack of a better word, maybe some hatred towards someone else who might be doing better than it's Biggerustralia to be things. It is, the more popular I became, the more I would receive Hey, don't get me wrong, The positives always heavily out weigh the negatives, but I'd have a lot of people coming out of the woodwork. You know, your memes suck you this, blah blah blah. And you know, I remember this. I still to this day that one of the craziest things is I was making memes. Got to a point, and I'm happy to admit this, where I was approached by a few different companies to actually make memes, so a sporty memorabilia company here in Melbourne. Believe it or not, I was making memes for a cryptocurrency agency for their social media, for their social media, and a few others and basically I was getting paid and it was amazing because I was doing something I loved as a hobby and people saw, perhaps you know, the merit in what I was doing, and they said, look, you're the guy. You have to be the guy to do this for us. Who's turning down a role when they were They've been approached to be paid to do something they love. Why would you ever say no? Absolutely So the way I think this got misinterpreted was somehow someone got a drift of this and they got their wife to private message me on Instagram to say that they had a meme that they wanted me to make blah blah blah, and they needed it for their company, and they were willing to, you know, do a deal kind of thing of it was ongoing, and because I had they said, oh, you know, is there a price? And I said, well, look, I've made literally no you know, no, lie, I've made dozens of memes for people just for no rick because they've said, look, man, can you make this meme? And if I've got time, I'll make it. I had a guy whose brother passed away. He's like, could you crop his face in that one of Homer looking into the clouds? That would mean a lot to me, And I did it. Why would I charge? But because I thought this was a business related thing, I said a price and that was it. They just so for forever. Since then it spread. Andy CA's you know, a douchebag. He charges people for memes blah blah blah. And I was like, oh my god. So this fifty dollars thing came up always that's the thing. It's the fifty dollar thing for me. The fifty dollars is just like, so we used to post your stuff, right, and then we start posting stuff everyone's like, oh, it's Nendy k one was he charging fifty dollars for it? And I was like, what's going on here? What happened? So that's it. So basically I see it. I'm not stupid, man, I can see it. I know it's going on. Like. It doesn't FaZe me. It used to. It used to really piss me off because I was like, guys, I was doing what I thought was an ongoing business transaction. It wasn't someone saying, hey, man, you know I've done that dozens Literally, I can show you my inbox, no problem, I have nothing to prove. But because that, this guy obviously had an issue with me already. He's looking for something and he looked at it. And so people started thinking what I was doing was making my memes and somehow trying to just sell them. I'm like, how is that even possible. I post them online, anyone can take them. Yeah. I was making memes for people who approached me in a company setting. So that's some of the stuff I cop And you know, it's funny. When I was a nobody in terms of making memes, no one gave me hard time. But suddenly it was Andy Kay Andy Kay and people. Some people hated that. But why though I don't understand why. Well, it's, like you said, the tall popular syndrome, I honestly believe without sounding I don't want to sound cocky because I know my memes are popular. Do they appeal to everyone? Absolutely not. I'm not stupid. Do I make some memes that are a bit forced or aren't great? Absolutely? But people think, oh, kind of f you because you're popular. I'm gonna I've said, honestly, man, if you've read some of the comments I've read and the hate I've received just over fucking Simpson's memes, it's it's pretty sad. And I'm like, what's happened in your life for you to be so angry and bitter because someone else is making memes? And is because you legitimately hate my memes so much and it causes you anger that they're popular? Or is it because you've posted memes that haven't really garnered much traction and because of that there's some you know, hostility towards them because you're not replicating that. There could be everything and in between of that, and it doesn't, As I said, now, it doesn't phase me because this is what I used to do. I admit another thing I used to cop shit for was and he's you know, you know, really you know weak, you know, he's he's got no skin. It's just and you know, he gets so angry, and it's like, all right, maybe I used to react in a bad way and I wouldn't talk about you know, I wasn't you know, using horrible you know, swear words or you know, just being down. I was just being a smart ass back. But the reason I guess I say that is because at the end of the day, people only see it at face value. It's like, well you haven't seen you know, in one day, I could have copped ten people just out of the blue, like fuck you, you suck. Your memes are horrible. I'm sorry. I don't give a crap who you are. That's going to start to wear you down, and you sometimes can snap and just be like dude, like what's your problem? Now? If someone does it, I just block them. So that's for me. It's just like, look, I can't win. I just trying to make people laugh. I'm not doing it for popularity. I never started for that reason. I genuinely love the artistic side as far as using you know, the different apps on my phone. Yeah, I want to touch on how you do make you memes a little bit later as well. Yeah. Absolutely, man, absolutely, And it's kind of one of those things where yeah, because it's kind of just become this association like fifty dollars Andy, he's you know, he's he's weak, he can't take criticism. It's like, man, why are you criticizing anyway? First of all, I would never do that to anyone. What's the point, as I said earlier, what am I trying to achieve from this? Like, I don't understand what the ultimate goal is. Do you think like that you bringing me down? Is that making you feel better about yourself? Like do you have you know, is it because you've got, you know, self esteem issues? Is it that your life is at a point where you're so angry the world that this is how you kind of And that's the thing. It's social media. Anyone behind a computer or a phone can have no consequences for being an absolute douche and can rip into you. It's like kids at primary school. They didn't know what they were doing. But man, sometimes you know, I've had like death threats and I'm going to break your legs over memes. I've had people send me death threats to our Facebook page because we didn't give credit to a meme that they made. But it's like, because someone sent us the meme and I was like, who made this, Oh, I don't know, and I'm like, well, and that's yeah, so you put it on and then I'll post in the comments if you know who made this, let me know, which is what I did on this particular one. And they went ballistic in an inbox and I was like, fuck, it's just it's not like you were trying to claim it. It's like me, Brendan Dando, I made this people. Seriously, man, some people just need a fucking reality check and just to snap out of it. This is why I hate social media, you know, in that regard. But look, you know I've admined for three or four different pages at least with my own Instagram. You know, I can just control because you know, in the early days when I started my Instagram, you know, I had all the dickheads who you know, used to cause me grief, especially in you know, see Compy Global Hope Omeganete page. I left that ages ago, but that was one of the cess pools where you know, people just it became like, oh, people are bashing Andy, and you'd get all the kind of bam wagons, you know, guys like, oh, I guess this is what we're doing now. It's like they're not shitting on New Simpsons and more than sitting on Andy k memes. Yeah, yeah, it's just and you know, just to put it into perspective, I like have got hate pages, like literally mean, people have created pages. Just one's called like no Andy's you know page. I think it's hilarious, Like like, if you've invested your time and energy to create a page to hate someone over Simpson's memes, you're the one who needs to relook and reevaluate your own life because that's fucking pathetic. And I know what it again, it was like there was some bond someone who and this is what I always find the most amusing out of out of all the dickheads who you know, like the troll is they want to rip you to shreds. But the minute you even stand up for yourself, even if you're not derogatory at all, they'll be like, oh, yep, so you can't take criticisms, it's like okay, or they rip you to shreds and they want a reaction, and then when you might boot him out of the group, they're like, he's an absolute asshole. It's like, my god, you were the biggest douche ever. You've absolutely ripped me to shreds for nothing. Mind you. Again, I keep to myself, like I like other people's memes or comments, you know, if I find it funny that a lot of other you know, me makers I really respect. But I've never, as I said, given someone a hard time. So it's like it just boggles the mind when how often it could happen. So I've booted a lot of people out of pages purely because not even to do with me. I see it where they're ridiculing someone just ripping into them, and I'm like booted. And of course I'll cop the flak if they find out, you know. So look, it comes with I guess the territory as far as someone I mean, look, I've never you know, had an opportunity to be in a situation, I mean, like I got, you know, in some situations where I was like even to pinch myself moment, like the fact that. I've even had Nancy cart Right like and comment my memes on Instagram. Yeah, the people that work on the show are liking your stuff, so it's like nobody think, you know, you know, that's it. Me and Bill Oakley talk quite a bit. I'm gonna ask whether you actually been in touch because he likes nearly all of you posts. Yeah, oh yeah, so he's been following me. He's re shared and retweeted literally like dozens and dozens and dozens like on his you know, Twitter and stuff, and on his Instagram, and you know, obviously you know the legend who created Steam tams Man. I mean, I can't believe he's following me and my account and loves my stuff. And it does it puts it into perspective. You're like, so some some guy you know from Bloody, you know, Frankston hates my memes and hates me apparently because they're popular. But I've got the voice of Bart Simpson and the original writers. And then I again, like I've had some you know, amazing stuff like that, so it puts it into perspective. If I didn't have kind of you know, a good reception too. I mean, I'm not saying that's the reason to do it, but it helps to kind of push some of the hate stuff aside and say, Okay, I know, you know, I realize why I enjoy doing this. I even had someone from the Hollywood Reporter interview me from New York over the so that was cool. And what was that for when it's about two you two and a half years ago and she was actually in the process. I don't know if it's finished. I haven't touched base with her for a little while, but she was writing a book and she's got a lot of contacts with like, you know, a lot of the voice ACKed and the writers. And she just said, you're you know, everyone seems to know Andy k memes. And she asked me, like, you know, would you like to be interviewed and what's your process? And I was just like, wow, man, that's awesome, Like I'd love to so in terms of how I make them, I think, going back to what you said before, man, they don't take that long these days, because I think you kind of fine tune you know your craft a bit. And you know, I literally used two or three basic apps on my phone. Which apps are they? Yep? So hm the app for cropping is photo Lasso. So basically, anytime you need to cut out a head or body part in terms of the actual art side where you're actually doing the coloring and you know, adding things like facial features or whatever, it's just called art Studio. And the other one is just a auto cap free it's the free app for the text. So so basically my process is usually Okay, you get the idea and then I basically will figure out like all the screen grabs I need. So Frankiak's your best friend for that, mate, what a life saver. Ray. If it wasn't for Frankiak, I couldn't do eighty five ninety percent of the memes I make, so that's been absolutely amazing. And then basically I'll get them all laid out and then I'll be like, okay, so I need to cross his face on Homer's body, so then I'll you know, crop them all out, put them on. Obviously they look really shit at that point, so then I go into the art app and then I do all the adjusting color changes, cropping out the background if Homer's heads a bit more out of the way than you know, this character, and then once all that's done. I basically input it into the text app, add the font, and then basically that's it. It's kind of like, you know, you know, I get like sometimes after doing it for so long, you know, you might be an occasion like a shit, you know, what's my next kind of idea? But it does, you know, for me at least anyway, Like I don't have to sit there just really like straining out an idea for like hours, something will just come to me and believe it or not. Man Like I you know, some people think I have to watch the Simpsons like every day. I haven't watched the proper episode in so so long. Our viewing habits have changed so like it's all on Disney Plus now. Plus we've got two small kids, so it's like they watch what they want to watch half more most of the time these days for me and you in this household. So I was saying to the other day to my co host, I was like, I feel like you might spare time. I barely watched the Simpsons anymore, which was like sad to me because like the Simpsons is does always be on, Like have you found that you don't watch them anywhere as much as you used to Yeah, man, I really don't. I know that as my boys get older, I'll you know, introduce them to it and really get you know, because it's a absolute masterpiece of his show, especially of course the Golden era. So that I find myself, look, man, between working full time, kids, trying to balance any form of social life, and you know, by the time I, you know, put the boys to bed and I want to watch something, generally I'm not you know, we might watch something on Netflix or you know, a new series on Disney Plus or something. So I actually don't have much time these days to watch the Simmas. But because I've watched every episode so many times and because I make means literally still to this day, basically daily, it's so ingrained in my head that I don't I don't think I need to, man like anything from season you know one on two you'd rarely touch on unless it's like a they didn't They didn't put them on TV very often anywhere on Channel ten. I feel like it was like three onwards, and even three not so much. It was more like four through like eight, I reckon the most. Do you remember I am the first time you ever watched The Simpsons ever? I remember the first time I ever saw them. So there's a couple of stories. Yeah, so the first time I ever saw them was I was a huge Muppets fan when I was a kid. I was a big Muppet kid, and they used to play them apparently like six am on Channel ten every weekday. My Naan used to like record it for me before she go to work, and I would go to NaN's place and watch the Muppet Show. I remember because obviously because she was putting it on before she go to work, they'd get the ads in between the episodes or throughout the episodes, and it was like, and she's I've still got the tape. I kept it because she passed away. I kept the tape from her house. It was like new show coming to Channel ten. It's the Simpsons. It's the fucking first Channel ten bromo. Yeah, wow, I remember going. They looked different because they were yellow and stuff, and I never watched it. But apparently I don't remember doing this, thank god. But Bad dream House I've told a story a million times, but a Bad Dream House was apparently on at my house. I would have been three, maybe four most of the time. When Maggie goes to the draw and the kitchen and gets a knife out. I did the exact same thing, and I was banned from watching the Simpsons un til I was six. Oh wow, okay, they man, there you go. So I think that's where my love for the show came. Because I was not allowed to watch it. I'd occasionally, like see that a friend's house or things like that because they have like those videotapes where they had like the four episodes on it and things like that, or they'd rent the videos from the shop. But like I was allowed to properly watch it till I was six, and now I just consumed it so much, you know, oh absolutely, Like I recall me and my brother excuse me, watching TV at our very first house, So this would have been I suppose. I guess the first time they aired Simpsons was eighty nine, ninety or was it ninety ninety one the first time we got as I believe it was ninety one, right, maybe ninety one, because I recall seeing the ads and like you said, man, something about the animation the yellow characters just like drew me into it. And I remember watching the very first episode on the couch sitting next to my dad and my brother sitting next to my mind and just watching the very first episode and just being like already, just something about it, just you know, gravitated towards it. And I remember just you know, Saturday and you know, week nights at ten o'clock sorry, and six o'clock and just being like, this is the best. And it's kind of weird when you look back, actually being at a stage kind of similar to how I was with Seinfeld where you were kind of watching episodes come out at that time during the Golden Era and not just realizing what an impact this show perhaps was actually having. And then I remember, I'll never forget this as well, when from recollection, I think it was they changed show runners. I think around season twelve. Yeah, that's when we went back to al Gene. Yeah. Yeah, And that's when I noticed a huge for me personally, a huge drop in quality as far as the direction of the show, the absurdity, just the lack of heart in it. And it's like, ah, it didn't sit too well. And then as the years kind of progressed, and it's amazing how you can still you know, look back. I mean, honestly, I've seen a handful of new episodes, and you know, I don't sit there on you know, this is you know, complete dog shit. But some episodes I'm like, jeez, it's just it's you know, it's just not the same. And that's fine. It doesn't have to be. You know, it might be drawing a whole new generation of fans, but for me, just living and breathing it through the nineties was just you know, and who doesn't know. I mean then some of the most did not the most recognizable cartoons ever and because of you know the fact that I had the art background, I love the Simpsons, you know, and trying to infuse a bit of humor you know into that. And then it kind of took a life of its own because for me, you know, also growing up gaming and loving you know, Super Nintendo and you know, Mortal Kombat, Mario cart Street Fighter. So I started incorporating a lot of crossovers with my meme. So a lot of the relatable ones too seem to do quite well. Did you do the Rainbow Bridge one? That was the best? Yeah? Yeah, holy shit, that was a fucking peak. That was other man, I've done a lot of you know, and again that's another thing. Sometimes I cop shit for and that's fine. Like I guess, sometimes I do go through a stage of having something I kind of go back to, and it's because I love it. You know, I've done a lot of crossovers with yeah, street Fighter, wa Combat. But then again, I've done a heap with movies, Terminate a Ninja, Turtles, Jurassic Park, you know, and then it's it's so it's pop culture stuff, you know, stuff with bands, stuff with TV shows. But look, man, I you know I've I look back and yeah, I mean I had a meme, a real basic one recently where it was I made it where it was an up view of Homer's face sitting on the couch, and I made the kind of quote every fifty year old guy posting their profile pick that went so well. Well, man, I was scrolling through my feed and I had a recommendation for this meme page and of course, low and behold, someone's posted that meme. It was at that stage I don't even check again, it was one hundred and sixty six k likes. Crazy. I was like, what the what the hell? Some chick had just found it and she'd reposted. And again I didn't care, like honestly, like I used to care, and it's like whatever, like do you still put your name on them? Or do you stop doing that? Look? No, I do occasionally, but honestly, like sometimes I just like, what's the point? Like I I, you know, I used to put andy kay as an actual watermark, and then I'd have to go into another app to put the watermark. So now I just kind of hand wrote a K. If I remember, I'll do it. But sometimes I'm just like whatever, like I'll just do it. I'll just quickly put it up and just be like, man, you know it's gone. Stop. You're probably going to crop out the watermark anyway in some way. Yeah, I had. I've had a page, an Argentinian page, and they were literally stealing every one of my memes and just cutting out all the text and replacing it with again at the time it used to put it. I've just got to look at it now and just be like, hey, people like my stuff whatever, that's cool. Like, you know, I've had people be like, hey, isn't this yours? Man? Like there's a guy on Reddit who is like getting like hundreds of thousand likes for all your memes and that's all good. I've seen, as I said, other Instagram pages use my stuff and dad like it's it's crazy man, Like I don't. I guess that's a way of saying, hey, you know if they like it. So, I mean, it'd be nice occasionally if someone you know would credit you and just say yeah, this is But you know, if it's in a forum, whereas like bought posting, you know, you can call someone out pretty easy, like come on, dude, that that's my hand. But if it's some Argentinian guy and you're just like, they're never going to respond. Nah, I don't care. I always try to link to your Instagram page these days, I do you put one of yours up? Yeah? And little man, as I said, like, it's funny how I could guarantee you, like, if you put a number of my memes up without crediting me, you'll see, you know, a very different response in the comments section. That's why started putting the Instagram link, because when I was putting credit Andy Kay, all these comments are coming through blah blah, and I'm like, well just put a link to his Instagram page instead, and people just didn't realize it was you half to talk it was just Simpson's meme factory, like, oh this is great. I see you. If I had to put andy K, you would have shooed on this for no reason. And that was like the guy that I kind of I'm not going to name him, but he basically has about I've had the block can of his accounts. He's like obsessed man, and he just keep going creating new accounts. Bill. There's Bill as mac grainy, but no, like there was this one guy. He just was a hell bent on giving me a hard time. And as I said, I did the little theory of posting something as not me as the bought posting kind of admin, and he loved it and was commenting, and I think the comment even was along the lines of so this is so much better than something andy K could ever do. And I pissing myself. And then when I wrote under it, you're joking, right, and he's like, what do you mean? I'm like, you know, this is actually an Andy King mean And then from there the other admin took it as you. I was just like, I'm not going to get into it. Look, I'm just trying to prove a point. And I flushed him out to just get rid of him, and I was proven a point again that like, you know, some people will just hate on you because they hear the name, Like I've seen the guys like recently, like some guys who'll be like fifty dollars and I'll be like, hey, man, if you want to believe a rumor started by someone who you know has his own bloody issues and created this out of some hatred to towards me based on no truth, like the fact that he thought like, yeah, I just make means and try and some I don't understand why that bothered people anyway, even if you did that. Ah, it's just like, oh, how dare you try to earn money for something that should be free? But you've made something? Who cares if you're trying to You're not making them pay you, so why do they care? I just don't understand that. And and the concept was so stupid, like they legitimately thought I was making memes and somehow like, well how would I even like would I put them on a website and people would bid for them? It's not bloody NFT, it's not an NFT. So I don't know. And it's almost like that angered people so much. For some reason, and it wasn't even true. Like, as I said, I was open and honest about saying I have made means for companies. The fact that they approached me, I think is amazing. That I was getting paid a weekly salary to make me. Maybe that's jealousy, Maybe that's there are insecurity. I don't know. I don't really care. But it resulted in just this backlash, you know, Like I had one guy just ripping into me because I was using at one stage a template and I was basing the joke on a rhyme. Okay, whatever, big deal, and he just thought it was He just he couldn't let that go. I'm so clever and he's rhyme in a word with another word. I'm like, why are you getting angry? Man? It's a meme. What's the problem. Do you still get them with that? Still? The people complaining about you and bring this up look generally nowhere near as much at all. And I think a big part of that is because I left you know, the most toxic page a few years back, and you'll find it. I've blocked a lot of people, and I cop shit for that because another guy's, oh, that's the other thing. Andy can't take criticism, so he blocks him on No, no, no, no, no, I'll block you because you're a fucking dickhead. I blocked you because you're berating me, you're abusing me, and I'm meant to just sit there and take it. Well, No, I've got better things to do with my life than listen to your crap. I don't need your negativity. If you hate me, good for you, man. But to go out of your way to just say some shit, good for you, man. But I don't want to hear it. So I'll block you because at the end of the day, I used to argue with dickheads like you, and what am I? I'm getting pissed off about it. You can't win no matter how you react to those kind of people. We win, Yep. I've had guys like where they just want to start a fight, So you could just joke back, be really polite and doesn't matter. As you said, it doesn't matter what I would say. It doesn't it. They've already made their mind up that they hate you. Again. It could be just based on hearing some other person talk crap about me, and that's it. So look, you know that's the negative side, that's fine. You know, As I said, I do get way more positive feedback. And I've had some amazing situations from you know, your Bill Oakley is to interviews. And I know this sounds crazy, man, but I literally have been approached at least i'd say six seven times here in Melbourne by people who have recognized me, Like whether it's at a club. I was even at a Bucks night once at the streets for a Bucks. Did you and put your face on memes? Sometimes? Did? You can't remember those ones? No? Man, just going to my profile sust me out. Yeah, they probably see and Andy Kay, they click on my profile, I guess they see what I look like. And so I'd be out and i'd literally have a guy come up, like even recently happened twice. I was at like a Djight event and some guy kind of looking at me. I'm trying to suss out is he trying to like start a fight? And no, it came over you, Andy Kay and have a chat. That's cool, man, Like I you know, I love I love that. You know, it's crazy, like you know it all because of like some symptons memes. But yeah, so like the process, man, I mean in terms of finding tire, I'm you know, I do find it pretty relaxing. So I might put the boys to bed, I might have maybe thirty forty five minutes before maybe my wife will, you know, joining me watching TV. She might go have a shower or do do something else, and I'll just find that little window man and I might have an idea already kind of going around, and I'll just put it into action and look, some memes you can knock out a lot quicker. Some give you go through my Instagram, you can see I've put a lot more work into it. But I don't find it like a like a hassle. I really enjoy it. It's like I guess, kind of like with Jim, for me, it's therapeutic, like I go to the gym because I genuinely enjoy it. I don't think it's about an appearance thing so much as it is is the release you might have, you know, a hard day, or you don't even have to have a hard day. It's just this kind of some form of release as far as making memes. You know, it's like you switch off and you kind of go into autopilot mode, like you just on there. If I had to sit behind a computer and do it, I probably would never have made a meme in my life. But it's convenience of on the phone, man, so shit and making meme at the same time, killing two birds beautiful beautiful. So yeah. Man, it's been a crazy six seven years of doing this, all the highs and lows as far as but at the end of the day, look, I'm a dad, I'm a husband, I work full time. It's a hobby. It's cool that I've had some recognition. As I said, it goes sometimes hand in hand. And look, man, I'm a nobody. I'm just someone who makes memes. I can only imagine, you know, like a celebrity, some of the hate that they must cop and I see it. I see any bands, you know on social media, everyone's everyone's you know, can has a voice behind their computer or their phone. So if I'm copying what I cop just as someone who makes memes, I can only imagine what it'd be like for someone who voices in aion or you know, has other people having to run their accounts. Because I've seen some you know some you know, someone says their Trump or their Biden and automatically, their their Instagram account becomes a hate page for the other people on the other side. That's the nature of where we're at in twenty twenty three. I keep politics out of everything we do. It's just not worth the fucking hassle. Dude. If you look through my memes, you'll never see one political memes. It's not worth it. The only time I've ever included like an Australian like prime minister or something is for the joke, as far as it could be based around their name. It's not about their political stance or their that doesn't like for example, like you know rock Bottom. I'm an admin and it's at a point now and for a very long time where it's as I said before, people are using Simpson's memes just as basically a conduit to push their political views. So there's a lot of hatred and it's just like, man, that's why I avoid it. Because we started the podcast. That's what our pages for the podcast essentially, But we sort of became like a mean thing as well. But we started the podcast to just sort of create a like minded Simpsons community. We can just talk about the Simpsons and have a good time and you go into the ship posting groups nowt it's just so much angst, just straight away from why what they'll created for in the first place. That's exactly why I don't. I don't see the point like I'm trying to make people laugh. I'm not trying to push, you know, my own agenda. What's the like do that somewhere else, man, go to an actual page that's dedicated that might share your views. But when it comes to Simpsons, man, keep it just freaking low key, funny, relatable. You know, I applaud people who give it a crack. I couldn't care less, you know, if it's low quality or you know, they it's my cup of tea as long as they're giving it a crack man, because I know my memes aren't a cup of tea for everyone. Sometimes, you know, the worst they look, the better. It adds to the charm of it as well. It does. It's like some like again I don't want to name names, but there's one guy in particular who you know, I think that's his kind of his niches. There's really kind of like badly crop but in a way that's like it makes it so much better. I love it like crack because he knows it. It's not like he's just like taking the piss out of himself. And I just think it's hilarious because it's just like he's not taking it too seriously for me. I guess maybe because I had the art background, I could maybe you know, know my way around, you know the art side of things, and you know, even shadows and crop in and you know that type of thing which helps you know if you want to do a bit of a better quality as far as how you present it to sell, the kind of idea, you know, and some stuff like you know, if you do it kind of seamless enough, people shouldn't actually know that you've put much effort into it. So for example, like I could use a Star Wars scene and I find a storm trooper, but he's in the wrong pose, and I need it to be a certain pose, like maybe doing the mo for one one funk, you know, dance. But if you crop it in a way to make it look seamless, they might just think, oh, he might have found that just on the net. But sometimes it takes it can take a fair bit of work. As I said about, it really depends on the style. But it's kind of a thing as well where sometimes you think a memes a bit man, but you're like, ah, it's it's harmless enough whatever, and you put out there and it just explodes. Oh yeah, like there was that one we put up. I love the nostalgia ones the most. I think nostalge ones that me and you did, one that put up about a month ago. I reckon where it was the CDs in the sleeves in the car style at the time that went mental it did. I've seen that reshare quite a bit and again yeah, like I've seen it on lots of different pages. But it's cool because I've similar to what you said, man, it's relatable. I've made some of those ones, like I've done one where you know, what was it? Oh, that's right, so Grandpa Simpson, you know there's one where he's seen So I pretended I was smoking a cigarette when it was cold outside, which is the style of the time, so you know as a kid it was cold and you blew out the air and those types of ones have you know, done really well. I've found ones where the crossover ones have done well, like I did this terminator one is dead or something yeah, yeah, one of those ones. But I also did the one where again at the time I thought it was funny, but I didn't realize it go the way it went was Sarah Connor's holding the fence and Homer's pouring milk in cereal, and then the next scene it's just that bloody nuclear wave and people just lost that shit. And and then as I kind of look back and I was like, it's pretty good. Like and there's times where I think I've actually got a home run and it doesn't get much traction. You just look. I think, for me, like the one thing I can say I feel like, you know, happy about is I think at least overall, I've got a decent strike rate. Like you know, as I said, man, I'm not sitting here with any kind of cockiness thinking yep, yep, I'm this, I'm that. Everything I do. I know I've made some absolute fucking stinkers. I know some have been terrible. I know some have been it's just but that's with anyone, man. But you have people who like go out of their way to wait for you to do that one. Yes, he's means of shit. Yep, they suck. I find that you don't really follow the trends, do you, because you know it's always there's a trend in the groups, and everyone just does the same fucking thing over and over again. I find yours are sounds like where did that come from? That's it? So I don't I have started a few without meaning to, like I might, I've started that's Sarah Connor one. After I made that one, I noticed for weeks there was that nuclear blast scene used over and over and it's happened dozens of times over the years. But nah, I don't tend to ever follow. I think for me, what I might do is, for example, I'll be flicking through my Instagram just looking at some of my older memes, and I don't know, something would just pop up, like I'll see, you know, a purple drapes me and I'm like, I haven't done purple drapes in a while. And then you've got the way my process works. I don't know, everyone's different. Is I've got to say I feel like, yeah, purple drapes would be a good one right now. Then I'll go through some of the other templates I've used and see whether there's anything that connects the dots. If it feels forced, I'll leave it if it doesn't make sense. But someday and you'll come up with an idea. Sometimes you're like, how the hell have I not thought of that before? And then I'll do my little search in the groups to see if anyone else has done it, just to make sure that doesn't you know, And sometimes you can't find everything. Worse person, Oh oh god, apparently yeah, you know, And that was always funny, like I used to have. I used to see. You know, a lot of people make memes I've made before, a lot, right, And that's fine. They're not following me. They don't know every group I'm in. I don't give a shit, you know. But the minute if I ever did a Harrison on someone else's meme, I stole it. I copied them. I'm like, oh my god, so you think that I found someone else's meme that was posted in this group. I remade it, spent the time posted in the very same group, and fingers crossed, no one else noticed. Why would someone do that? That makes no You should have stay on Instagram. You should just avoid Facebook like the plague and to stay in Instagram. So kind of to answer that man. I find that bought posting. Even though I'm not an adamin anymore. They're really good with how they generally run the page as far as key been at friendly no bullshit, no bullying. You know, if you report something, they'll put someone in line. So that is the only group. Even though I'm an admin on rock Bottom, I haven't posted there in many, many months, purely because of the same reason another admin left. It's just become just too political hate field. That's where we tried to always be. I was actually mentioned on a recent podcast. I know, mat I have nothing against rock Bottom, but I always saw like us as like black and white in the sense that everything that we wouldn't post would be on that page, you know what I mean, Like we would never do anything political. We didn't do the Tobias meanings of dropping the sea bomb and things like that. Look, we tried to be like the family friendly one because we're such We're so associated with the actual show and people who work on the show, and like Disney run sponsorships throughout podcasts and things like that, Like we need to sort of be the family friendly Simpsons community. Yeah, and good and rightly so bad and look don't get me wrong. Like, you know, I've been an admin for rock Bottom for like seven years and I've got you know, I'm very I'm good mates with you know, Matt, who you know runs the page. Of course, he's the one who asked me back in twenty sixteen to help be an admin, and I've been one since. But the reason I'm saying I don't post as much as it's not against it's just I just kind of I'm happy to do the admin staff keep an eye on things. But when it lost, you know, some of the heart of what Simpson's memes was about, it just was so I left, you know, compu Global because again the hate in that group and no one was man in it. No one was I wasn't an admin, so I would report something and people were just letting it go, which made me think that some of the other admins didn't like me. And I used to sit there going, man, like, I've literally had no interaction with you. I've never said a bad thing to you, but because of my memes, you hate me, Like that's insane. Like I used to still think like, but again I had this. Even my wife's like, just don't even overthink it. Just think of it as it's not your issue. You you've done nothing to start a rise, You've never been arrogant being like yep, I'm number one my memes. I've never seen anything even remotely close to that. I've never put anyone down, So what does it come down to. It's someone else's issue that they can just deal with. And instead of me reacting the way I used to do and sometimes getting worked up, especially if it's like the fifth person on the day, just to come out with some stupid bullshit for for absolutely no reason, and they making it personal, and it's just like yeah, and that's why I started blocking people. I was like, man, how fun is it blocking somebody though, like someone on one of their posts and just like ban and delete? What look it is? It is? It's a it's actually a nice feeling when you're arguing with someone and you're like, Okay, not this is back then, not any mightn't really I don't do it really anymore ever, But and you write something and I know I could be a smart ass back because I'm not really wanted to take shit. Like as much as I would never instigate it, I would still stand up for myself and the best feeling was writing something back and knowing that they're in the process of typing and block and then blocking them so when they actually hit posts, so like this page no longer exists and they can just stew on that for a while. But you definitely you gold home with the jewels at that point, aren't you. Yeah, that's it. Just laugh Yeah, absolutely, man. So yeah, So look, it's funny because I do wonder, like sometimes people must think, you know, they must wonder like, you know, I've had a lot of you know, the people who do love my stuff, so like, how do you feel about all that stuff? And I'm like, look, man, again, you know, I know, I know it's there. I'm very well aware. It doesn't really bother me anymore because I just kind of just do my own things, stay in my own lane. And that's why I only post in one Facebook group, I run my Instagram. How long will I do this, man, I don't know, but for now I still enjoy it because my wife remember even when we first met, Hell, you've been married for I've been married. We've been with her for eight years and we'd be married for five years. Were made for a decade. Awesome congrats. That's awesome. Man. So I think when we first met so twenty fifteen, she used to, you know, see me at the end of the night and she's like, do you feel like kind of like obligated to do this? Like do you feel like a pressure? And I said, no, no, absolutely not. I said. The minute that I feel obligated and forced to come up with ideas is the day I know I'm just gonna not do it anymore. But look like, you know, who doesn't love you know, making something that people will have a laugh at, and like, I mean, it is a bit of a you know, a bit of an adrenaline kind of you know shot, a bit of a serotonin hit, dopamine hit. You know, it's a good feeling. And I think, you know, when you can be creative and people relate to it and find it funny, that's awesome. I think that's why I keep doing it too, is you know, it's nice to it, you know, for one split second of someone's day, just like make them have a bit of a laugh, for a chuck, or just make them, you know, put a grin to someone's face. Man, It's it's as soppy or cliche as that sounds. Why else would you do it? For man, Like it's you've got a group of people who love the show. You're relating it to stuff that might you know, might be appealing on nostalgic. If you can put a bit of humor and a bit of that spin on it, I think that's like awesome. And when you start, like, you know, because like if you go through, for example, I've got like a favorites folder on my phone and it's just like all saved PNGs, everything you could imagine, you know, from the Simpsons, from video games. So it helps when you know you've you know, you've kind of got like your little tool kit of what to do. But you know, it's uh yeah, man, it's it's instill enjoyable. And for now, I keep you know, look, I used to at one point, I don't do it anymore. Was probably making sometimes even two or three a day. I can't do that anymore. No, listen, LEAs you're making money from doing it unless you're getting paid to Yeah, correct, that's this is pre kids. But since kids, you know, I'll generally do one to day, not always now, like there might be a day or two that you know, but I've got so much backlog of material that, let's say I haven't made a meme that day, I could quickly flick back to twenty twenty twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one, sure, and find one to put on Instagram and just be like, yeah, cool. You know how many have you gotten your backlog as in unposted, never be posted posted? Yeah? Hundreds, really hundreds hundreds, So you can just take a gap year. I could if I wanted to, Like, you know, and there's some that you know I've posted, but I posted so long ago that people i'd say ninety nine point nine percent would not have recall it, like if I may. I've had some that did exceptionally well in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. I'll give it five years. If it's more than five years, it's free range to go again, I reckon. Yeah, look, I've remade a few. I remember making one using the scene where it was Marge as a child on the bus and there's the girl you like the monkeys? That scene, I've used that template, and it was one where I think it was that's right. It was charmers with a little lunch box and then girls like ooh, you like principal skinner, you know, he never had Aurora borealis in his kitchen, and he goes he did, so he doesn't even steam. He doesn't even steam his own hands. And then it's like he's just the screen yea. And people freaking love that one. So I remade it because it looks so bootleg, the old version of the old font. And one person goes, I know this from somewhere. Have you made is this yours? And I'm like, yeah, it's mine. I go I remade it for about five years old, and they're like, I remember, but yeah, I just you know, but that literally there was one person out of the hundreds of comments. But it was just a bit of fun to remake it. Give it a give it a bit of a nice new polish. But yeah, was he still having fun doing it. That's all. That's like with the podcast. I said to my wife, like, I took a pun to myself last year last August, I was like, I'm doing an office job. I'm not enjoying this. I don't feel like I'm being you know, looked after and appreciated. Fuck it, I own as much doing my podcast from like patrons and things like that is what I do with this job. I'm just going to quit my job, my wife and then go back to work full time. Because she was climbing the wall. She wanted to get out of the house. She had four years off of the kids, and it's just wor there for the better man. And but I said to her, like, the second this feels like work, I probably don't want to do it anymore. But then again, getting paid to talk about the Simpsons is pretty fun. Like, I know how fucking lucky I am. You know, I was gonna say, dude, look, I'll be I'll be the first. I'm envious man, because what you do and I know how successful you guys are is fucking amazing. I tried my you know, I tried a few years back at Patreon, right. I gave it a shot. And again, it's not about trying to monitor. Look, man, if why the hell wouldn't you try if you could try and monetize something that you enjoy. It wasn't me, you know, I never got into it for that reason. But as the whole fifty dollars bullshit thing was that I was actually getting paid at a period, and quite a good amount at that stage to make memes, and then I realized, like, you can't really do it with the Simpsons as far as memes, because why would someone. Yeah, I had a few patrons, of course, but nothing substantial. And I get it because I look back at I'm thinking, well, once you make the meme, it's kind of there. What more can you do with it? You laugh at it for two seconds, you might share it with a few mates, right, there's no other value. So what's someone get a gain by being a patreon when they get to see your means on your Instagram or on Facebook. So for you, what you do and how many Patreons you've got is insane, man, Because I've had so many people like say, oh, you know, dude, surely you're getting paid for this. I'm like, nah, man, I'm not. I've never been paid or an actual Simpsons meme on its own, because at the end of the day, I am using a copyrighted intellectual property that I tried a T shirt or too. I got them taken down straight away. So I just thought, look, I do it because I enjoy it, but I like to get paid for it. Absolutely, it'd be amazing. It's like you, man, you get to talk about Simpsons and get that. Like for me, that would be the dream, Like I would love that. But like you know, as I said, my job, I come from a psychology, social work, counseling background. I got. My job has got nothing to do with my artistic side, which in some ways kind of is a bit depressing because I kind of look back and think maybe I should have pursued that more. And just seeing like how much success I've had with the memes as far as at least growing an audience and people enjoying it, that's been cool. But the fact that you can, you know, do a podcast, and I've thought about other avenues, like, you know, do I start a YouTube channel? I know I can do a lot of different voices. I've actually had an idea for a channel which I know has been done to an extent where you basically have a movie scene and you overdub it with a different voice and you try and replicate what their mouth is saying to actually, you know, whatever it comes out with. It could be nonsensical, it could be Yeah. So there's one channel in particular that do it bad lip reading and this guy is a bloody music producer man. He does this as a side gig. He's got like thirteen million subscribers. He's making a killing that Yoda one he did that exploded. Yeah, and I've done one. I haven't put it out. You're one of the first people to know this. I've made one for Jurassic Park. I've overdubbed all the voices. It only goes for about three or four minutes. But I started like, oh, you know, there was so much work that went into it beyond what I thought. And I was like, oh, do I go down this path? But try it? Why not? Look, I might, you know, I've got to. I've literally got to just do a few things to tweak it. My brother's the one who's been really good at helping me out with like the kind of tech side. I wish it was just like in terms of the scripting of watching the movie that the scene, getting the script down, doing the actual recording, that's the easy part. It's the kind of mixing editing part that was like the pain and the ass and got to be careful with songs that you can't use and all that, you know, copyright strike crap. But hey man, i'd love to, you know, I'd love to quit a day job. To be able to do something like that, but who knows. Man, Like, one day maybe an idea would just come to me. But one day we're just likecky that we won the first Simpsons podcasts because when we did it, there was only one other one the people we were the second Simpsons podcast. Now it feels like there's two hundred. I bet, I bet it's saturated now. But we just we just got in there early, you know, built that fan base up, and just we've got The thing is, people start a Simpsons podcast now, a lot of them did it over covid. They got boreds, like, what can we do? There's Simpsons. You know, there's like one hundred new ones started over covid. But it's like we already had like twelve thirteen seasons of the show reviewed in our library before these ones even started. So we've already got that back cat looks. When people find us, they're like, shit, there's five hundred hours of reviews here for us to listen to. I'm just gonna go to this. There's someone who's just yeah, absolutely, man, that's crazy, like and you know that's I remember reading something. I think you made a post at one point saying that, yeah, you'd chucked in the job and you're doing this. Yeah it's on that page. Yeah, I'm just like, fuck it, I'm quitting probably where I saw it. Yeah, and I put the shot of home of burning the bridge. Mate live in the dream. Many live in the dream, like as in, there's not many people who can legitimately say they love what they do. Like as I said, let's say if someone turned around and said, Andy, I will match your current salary to just keep doing what you're doing and the memes, but do it for us who like, say know, you'd say you wouldn't say, you'd say yes and a heartbeat. I was just lucky to be in a position where my wife would go back to work and get paid enough to sort of balance it out. And then it just because I was doing it full time, I could put more content out, which means we've got more followers, and it just ended up being like the best thing ever. But man, it was scary at the time though. I was like, you know what, I'd rather I'd rather try this for two three years, fail at it, then go oh, I mean I wish I had a tried I think for you as well. Man, the beauty of it is that you could have initially started it whilst maintaining your job. We did. I was doing it for seven years. Yea. Yeah, and as you start to see things kind of pick up, you can make that decisive decision like, hey, I don't think I need the job anymore. It might still be a little bit of a risk at the time, but I'm sure you get to a point and then it's just and then you like look back and go, hey man, this is this is freaking awesome. I was very, very lucky. Yeah. So I'm getting to wind up my wife's we've been wrapped this up very soon. I think the kids. I think the kids have been a bit of a struggle of bedtime. So I won't keep it. I won't keep you, man. But I've got a question for you though. I've just send it to you about this this marathon. What I'd like to do I'd like to ask people. So it's nineteen ninety eight, So we've got the first nine seasons out right Channel ten. They've come to you, Andy, we need a five episodes Simpsons marathons for Friday Night. What episodes be picking? So this is this look given when you ask me the question earlier. I've had a bit of a think, so this could be interchangeable, but I've actually jotted some down, so I guess whether you want to call this an episode or not. But the twenty two short films about that's my favorite episode of all time. I always say that perfectly encapsulates everything about Springfield. It's just for me, those little bite sized stories. Yeah, and even from a meme perspective, how memorable that episode is next level? So absolutely that. Okay, so the City of New York and Homer, that one resonates with me. I do enjoy. There's a certain parts and that this I even just the very last scene of when Lisa is like can we come back? And and this shits copping in. It's just something that you also just you remember watching at the time as well. They always had that connection as well. Yeah. So another one would be Treehouse of Horror five. Five is always the favorite, isn't it? Look it is? But for me, like there's it's justly you know, rational, like I can rationalize why without you know, having much disagreement. I'd say, just you know that that episode as far as me wise, as well, for me, one that I you know, I've always loved I love Homer Goes to College. I absolutely love that episode and some like I guess special mentions as well, like Brother from the Same Planet, Homer bad Man, Marge being not Proud. I think that there's everyone ending besides the Maggie makes three ending that's going to make me cry. It's Marge be not Proud. Yeah, that for me just hits different notes as far as humor, and you know, it's just yeah, it's so. I mean that list could, I'm sure for yourself, could be interchangeable on any given day, but just off the top of my head, those were, you know, some that I'd be like, yep, you know, there's there's there's some sentimental stuff in there, there's some absolutely hilarious and kind of like you said with the twenty two short films, like everything in between. So I think that kind of captures and I think that that pretty much has an episode from I think season four, six, nine seven. So it come with the good ones. Yeah, pretty good mix. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go. All right, Andy Kate, thank you so much for joining us here. It's been a pleasure to finally catch up with you. Yeah, man, thank you so much for having me Like, it's good, it's good just to you know, have a chat. Kind of Well, it's good because I've just started this second because we did two podcasts a week. Now we do the reviews and it's like season eighteen. I'm like, yeah, people aren't as interested in reviews anymore. And the reason I started this show was to just chat with people about the Simpsons. And like I've seen like I've seen your name and I've shared your memes for seventy years. I'm like, fuck, just talk to the guy. I appreciate it, man, Like I you know, I you know, I'm always I think I'm a very you know, pretty chilled guy man who's always happy to chat. And anyone who actually knows me knows that. Like, man, I'm not anyone who's ever started you know, shit, I'm not that kind of guy. I've copped a lot of shit. But man, I think, as as I said, it's just kind of sometimes is the nature of having maybe memes that are popular. I guess, like, you know, you can't please everyone. Some people will just get pissed off, and some people will like the hate. But as I said, man, at the end of the day, the positive stuff has always outweighed the negative and for that reason alone. Man, you know, I love doing what I do. It's it's just a fun hobby on the side, man. And I actually was. I actually remember when you reached out. I was like thinking to myself. I remember at one point a year or two ago, thinking, man, I'd love to even reach out to you guys and be like, hey, would you want to have a chat? One day I was like, nah, no, I can't ask them that that's something that they've but it's been a pleasure, man. I appreciate the offer. And it's good to meet you man and have a good chat. And let's plug that Instagram page one more time before you go. I have Simpsons meme factory. Yep. I probably, in hindsight should have got a bit more creative name. But change the name? Was it is that too late? Now? You keep it? I reckon I can. I'm pretty sure I could change it, but I think I do think it fits though, right Simpsons mean factory. Well, look, I mean I make them enough to feel like it's a factory. You know that it's it's you know. And I wasn't sure at the time whether certain names would be like, you know, a strike because you use them, But nah, I lostarted looking at other pages and the hundreds have used the Simpsons like I literally didn't give it much thought and I just thought, I make so many bloody damn memes, I might as well just put them on my Instagram. And yeah, it's kind of just you know what's growing to like nearly seventy thousand followers now just about yes, it's going really well. Make sure guys that you follow that page for your Simpsons meme Shenanigan's Yeah, once again, it's been an absolute pleasure and all the best with your Symptons Meme Factory. Thanks brother, I'm sure you'll see some more bangers coming up.
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