#573 - Bailey Zimmerman: Country Rockstar Life, Mom's New House & Car Obsession

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Speaker 1: You are the second episode Crazy only behind Kenny.

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Speaker 2: I'm very honored, honestly, very honored.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you asked me to do this, I was like, this is actually really cool, Like you could have asked anybody to do this, and I wanted to be on this couch.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Well, I did ask a lot of people to do it, and still you're the only person that you're behind, is Kenny. Do you take offence that you're behind Kenny?

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Speaker 3: No? I don't, of course, Okay, I don't take a fence to anything, dude.

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Speaker 1: I'm blessed.

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Speaker 2: So here we are.

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Speaker 1: You're extremely jittery. I want to say this. We've known each other for a long time, so I feel comfortable just going right to it. You're extremely jittery.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, coffee.

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Speaker 1: Just so people know, we're recording this at three pm and Bailey comes in. He's drinking coffee and he's like, coffee in the morning. It's three pm. Yeah, so it's coffee new to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like have used it as just like a thing to help me quit a bunch of like, you know, things I wanted to quit in life, and it's really worked.

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Speaker 1: So you're replacing something else with not such a bad thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, dude, I'd rather be like drinking too much coffee than drinking too much tequila, you know, trying drink like like certain vices that I wanted to like get rid of. I was just like, Okay, how could I do that and kind of replace it with just something like a slightly lesser vice. Yeah, so coffee is really good for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're already a pretty energetic guy. Oh yeah, does it jack you up even more? It's kind of.

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Speaker 3: Interesting some like a lot of the times, no, because it's allegedly allegedly I'm not like speaking fact here, but allegedly people with ADHD like caffeine and things that usually hype up everybody else kind of like adderall to like everybody else would hype them up.

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Speaker 1: It brings us down.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of the times it doesn't bring me up, but sometimes it does give me these like where I'm just like jittery. So I'm not like it doesn't give me more energy. I just like am jittery.

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Speaker 1: I guess caffeine doesn't really affect me. It doesn't matter when I drink it. Maybe for a similar reason.

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Speaker 2: Probably honestly, Yeah, that would make sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my doctor has told me that it's either I have a dash of OCD or super ADHD.

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Speaker 2: It's probably both. A lot of the times I feel like I.

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Speaker 1: Have all of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, I have all of.

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Speaker 3: This, dude, Yeah, what did you drive up here today? I drove my Cadillac. I just bought an Escalade Vay.

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Speaker 1: I know nothing about cars, So tell me what a Cadillac escalate V is because I can picture a black catallac escalate like an suv.

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Speaker 3: But what's the difference? So I mine's white and the like, So what's cool about it? Escalate V? So like there's an escalade But then my escalate V is a super charge six to two, So like the motor.

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Speaker 1: Is like faster. Is there a time you would ever need a fast escalade suv?

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Speaker 3: There? And honestly, is just the sound. I just love the sound of it. That's also why I bought my Lamborghini as well. So I just wanted the sound to hear it. Lamborghini car, Yeah, bought it.

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Speaker 2: Bought one of the cars with the V ten in it.

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Speaker 3: So those things are really low. Yeah, he's great. I don't know yet I bought it out in La and no yet, it's not here.

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Speaker 2: It's not here.

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Speaker 3: I sent it to New Jersey because I was doing some work. I can't leave nothing alone, dude, my grandpa. So so I don't know you probably know this about me, but my family. Oh real quick. My mom said that she loves you, and she told me to tell you that this morning. And I'm a man of my word. My mom loves you, and I want.

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Speaker 1: To talk about her in just a second because I love your mom.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so, but not that way.

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Speaker 1: No, right right, Bailey, you're my son.

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Speaker 2: No daddy, Bobby, daddy bone.

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Speaker 1: This is a weird time to tell me now on Netflix, will, I had to break it to you here.

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Speaker 3: My mom comes through the door. She's like intervention. Everybody grabs a chair, so she starts like playing with my hair, Bailey, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you say you say your card?

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Speaker 2: Anyways, Yeah, so you know, my family owned dealership growing up. I worked there.

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Speaker 3: We you know, built race cars and built everything. And my grandpa couldn't leave nothing alone vehicle wise, my dad, my brother, and my whole family. So I kind of like have that really like like that hobby. I guess and so yeah, I sent it to New Jersey and varn Built. It's like this dude, his name's Varner, and he's gonna like make it sick. And then there's also this dude named Switch one name, it's just Varner Built. It's just what he calls the shop.

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Speaker 1: Feels like those are guys you'd meet in prison. Well, he doesn't look like he gave me in prison. I don't know. Notice saying those one name guys feel like the those are guys you meet up with rikers, you know, Yeah, yeah, like how'd you get that nickname? So what are they doing?

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Speaker 2: I think his name is his last name's Varner.

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Speaker 1: But what are they doing to your car? Are they? What are they doing to make it all right?

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna do like a bunch of like body panels. So I'm gonna do a new rear bumper and a new real like wing, and then I'm gonna do side skirt diffusers. I'm gonna do a front new bumper with a diffuser and it'll just make it look like badass.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I know about a difuser is I have one of those I do my hair with, okay and has a clause.

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Speaker 3: Actually, you know what a diffuser on a car is almost the same thing kind of not the same thing as your hair, but like it does have these like big things that set it lower to the ground, and it looks like it.

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Speaker 2: If you looked at one right now, you'd be like, okay, similarity.

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Speaker 1: So how much to ship your car to New Jersey and then get it here? Hmm, Like that's got to be another fifteen thousand dollars right?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, actually it was like I got a deal.

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Speaker 3: Also, like my grandpa, I love a deal like Facebook marketplace, bro, love a good deal.

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Speaker 1: You shipped a Lamborghini on Facebook Marketplace. No, No, I don't know much, but that does.

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Speaker 3: Not sound I'm just saying Facebook Marketplace. You know how you just find deals on there and you can just haggle and get a better price. And you know, just Facebook Marketplace, man, the culture of Facebook Marketplace, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: No, but dude, you got to honest. Anyways, I'm a haggler.

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Speaker 3: I'm a haggler, and dude, I think I shipped it out there for like twenty five hundred bucks from La who took it one eyed Willie.

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Speaker 2: No, a real company they had real insurance. Yeah, it was a real thing.

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Speaker 1: All good, yep, and how long? Because I think if I bought something like that, i'd want it.

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Speaker 2: Oh it kills me.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I like when I walk outside, I just try to imagine what it's going to look like like in my driveway.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I cannot wait to see this thing. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: It's it's honestly like like cars are, and trucks and just anything with a motor or anything you can cuss a miser. I'm just like addicted, like like real addiction. Like I don't do it for like the clout or the what. I do it like, I love it so much, like when you turn that car over quickly though this I keep everything. And the reason I keep all my cars is because I remember when my dad growing up and my grandpa growing up, they'd be like, man, I wish after everything was said and done, I really didn't need to sell that car. I would, you know, figured out how to keep it and this and that. I wish I had kept that car in this car, And I don't want to be that guy when I'm older. I want to have like cars for my grandkids and things, and so as long as I don't need to sell them, I'm not going to.

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Speaker 2: But then if I need to, I will.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a warehouse?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm running out of room. It's getting it's becoming a problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you don't have a girlfriend yet.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: No, see, I think that's when it changes a bit.

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Speaker 2: I'm really hoping that she loves it too, and then it becomes even more of a problem.

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Speaker 1: And I just you want her to love cars and ship him off for diffusers with one. I willie up to New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: How cool if she was like she came to me, my girlfriend's like, hey, look at this Facebook marketplace car I just found. We could totally put this motor in this car and make this this cool car. I'd be like, oh my gosh, marry me, bro, please God, would you be open.

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Speaker 1: To marrying a broll?

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Speaker 3: You know? Honestly, you know, listen, he loved cars enough. Honestly, I would say that my best friend. I am married to my best friend. His name's Josh. He runs a company called Maxed Diesel, and he like he helps me. His company not only does it for everybody else, but he like helps me. Like I'll be like Hey, I want this, and then he'll go to the company and get a deal, get it shipped to the shop, have it done, and then it's good.

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Speaker 2: So he kind of takes care of it.

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Speaker 3: He's a uh they call him a build manager, so he like manages a truck build or a car build or whatever. Right, so we are basically like married. I'm on the phone with him probably four hours out of day, five hours out of the day, just talking about cars and.

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Speaker 2: What we're doing and this and that and whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's your number one passion other than other than music and work and sometimes probably they probably dance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, music is the most important thing in my life.

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Speaker 1: Not important, not important. But do you spend the most time thinking about music?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's like, oh gosh, yeah, ninety eight percent of my life is music, tour, future, like writing, trying to like have plans and yeah.

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Speaker 1: Can you guess what mine is? Hm, you're right, your mom my mom?

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Speaker 2: That's awful. Is this like a roast mean session or something about my mom?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: I love your mom, I love the videos and.

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Speaker 2: My mom loves you. On the phone. Brought I actually brought this up. It was my fault. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and that's, you know, just a message to all the you know girls out there. I am a guy that will say I messed up. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: That was my fault.

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Speaker 1: I brought that up.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't even have said it, but I had to because I'm not. Also because you're on my word. And she told me, will you tell it? And I said, yes, Mom, I'll tell him that you love him.

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Speaker 1: So the last time I saw your mom was on your on your TikTok videos. Yes, and oh gosh, did you did you think they would go that viral?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I I honestly was like kind of frantically trying to make a video about it because I hadn't really focused on like or like planned how I was going to video it. I was really just focused on like making it like because we oh my gosh, dude, that took like six months to redo the whole house inside because it was really old and needed just like updating.

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Speaker 1: So when you okay, let me let me just talk to you, just so people know. So Bailey around Christmas had posted a TikTok and he surprised his mom in the new house. Yes, and then you ended up surprising her with an SUV.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: It was it a Cadillac V just a catialag. It was white though it was white. I thought it was so good and so yeah, I wondered how long was the process to it? Was that a house that she had seen before that she liked? Was it a neighborhood you wanted to live in? How did you know where? What to do?

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Speaker 3: It's like, it's like the craziest, coolest story. So like, Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get into this.

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Speaker 1: Yeh, it's really cool.

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Speaker 3: Yea.

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Speaker 1: It means stretch out up time. There you go.

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Speaker 3: It's so cool and it means so much to everybody, Like the kids these days would say, the lore behind all of this is crazy. So starting off January of last year, after ken Kun crash my Plia, we get home from crash my Plia and my mom gets really sick and she like is in the hospital like on a ventilator, like might die sick. Like she's like she was one day away from dying. Basically she had went through Man, it was it was twenty twenty two days on a vent or twenty three days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was really crazy.

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Speaker 3: It was I was going to the hospital between tour and between everything, and like you know, staying at the hospital on my bus and then going to see her, and we all honestly thought she was like not gonna make it. And then one day she just woke up and like was good and like you know, the event came out and everything was good and now she's alive. But at that moment when she was just like really sick, she was like down kind of like rock bottom, you know, like she all that time in the in the hospital made her quit smoking cigarettes. So where my brain was like, man, she's really had a hard time. She's gonna come out of the hospital. I really need to try to get her a house, because she didn't have a house at the time. She had been written this one, but I don't know, it was a mess. So that's what gave me the idea, like, man, I really need to make my mom comfortable because you know, she's now off cigarettes and off of everything. She could kind of come out of this and be really healthy and like kind of get her life back, you know. And like so and before this, she had been on it oxygen tank because she smoked so much and it was just a bad deal. So I was like, Okay, I want to get her a house and make sure she's set up so she feels like she can like go work out and get her life back and you know, not have to worry about anything else.

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Speaker 2: So that's where it started.

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Speaker 3: And then so the lore behind the house was I when I started looking, there was this one house in town that my mom's best friend, her name was Jonie, and it caddy cornered my grandma's house. And my mom had grew up on that land riding dirt bikes where that house was built. And Joni was my mom's best friend. So Jonie built the house and she ended up dying in two thousand and nine and it was a really really bad time for my mom, and that house had just always been a lot to her. And then it got sold to other people and I ended up buying that house. Like that house is Jonie's house she built, so it's my mom's best friend that isn't with us anymore. She built that house and it caddy corners my grandma, So now my mom can go right over to my grandma's help, her grandma can come to her house. It's like a god given like blessing man, like, so just like it being my mom's best friend that's not with us anymore, her house.

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Speaker 1: It's right next to my grandma. How did you find it was available? Were they just selling it at the time?

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Speaker 2: It wasn't even on the market.

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Speaker 3: They had heard through somewhere that I was looking for land, and they got ahold of somebody, and I was like, yeah, I'll buy this. This is I didn't know you guys were wanting to sell it because somebody had told me they weren't. But then they heard that I had asked somebody, so they hit me up and I ended up buying it.

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Speaker 1: So then do you start renovating it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So and then when I got in there, I was like, oh gosh, I just bought the house. Why would I give her this house that needs a lot of work done? Like, I don't know, I'll always like my mom had, like has always tried to give me like the best of the best whenever she didn't have it. And I'm like, I'm at a point in my life where I've been very very blessed in like you know, the success and everything. And I was like, I'm gonna give her a fully new house and this is I'm just gonna do it, and I know I won't regret it, you know, in the future, you know, I'll just have to let's you know, keep working hard, you know. But so we went in like yeah, made it all new and black and white, and I gave.

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Speaker 1: Her like a chill area and chain and rebuild the house like the revisions.

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Speaker 2: Right around like probably four months or so.

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Speaker 3: Was it hard to stay quiet about it as it was happening, So she had I had went with her to the house because she thought I was looking for a house, so.

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Speaker 2: I had took her and she was like, oh, yeah, Jinie's house. I'm like, yeah, I don't know, did it? And then from then on she didn't really know much.

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Speaker 3: And I think she had this suspicion because there were so many people there and there's not anybody in town that would buy that. So and I hadn't said anything, but she didn't say anything about it. So we just didn't say anything.

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Speaker 2: I thought my grandma was.

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Speaker 1: Going to ruin it, dude, Oh, your grandma knew.

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Speaker 3: My grandma knew a little bit because she overheard some stuff. And then I was like, you better just chill out. And when you want to say something, chill out, don't say nothing. Did your grandma not to say anything? I did, because we had the little hey Like I was like, Yo, we're just gonna chill out right, Yeah no, So yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: It was so fun.

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Speaker 3: And my brother, my brother John, shout out my brother John. He really helped me like do it all and kind of contracted the thing and helped make sure everything was right.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, he was back home while I was like doing all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: So were you trying to be Christmas?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That was like our thing. I really wanted to get it in by Christmas. And oh man, there's this guy named Mike Owen. Shout out Mic oh and shout out John Logan zinc. Oh my gosh. These guys pulled through on like Saturday like that, you know, the weekend before sighted the whole thing, painted the door, painted the thing they were painting on Christmas Eve like they were painting the door and stuff like my my town like came together.

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Speaker 2: Dude. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: When you drove her by, When you drove her too, well, why were you driving by? Were you going to your grandma's house finger quotes or what?

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Speaker 3: I was just like driving around and I was just like, yeah, let's just go drive around. And then is that something you would do?

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Speaker 1: Just go drive around?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: She was like why and I was like I don't know. She's like okay, oh, I told her we were making a video.

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Speaker 2: God, oh I needed to make it.

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Speaker 1: There had to be a better Floyd than just driving around.

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Speaker 2: Okay, lets you drive around. Oh, I need to make a video.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, and so when you drive by, that's her reaction, her genuine reaction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was really like when I was like I So it was really cool because I was like sitting there editing the video as everybody's over at the house and everybody's like we knew about it and like all the things. And I remember I showed my mom's best friend Bridget the video. I'm like, hey, do you think this like looks good?

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Speaker 2: And like do you like this?

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Speaker 3: And like the three seconds and she's like already crying and I'm like okay, yeah, post like okay, so good.

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Speaker 1: So I saw that video. But then it was like there's more. It was like one of those nineties commercials that come on us, there's more. It plays it chops, there's more, and then you back the truck the suv out of the garage. Yes, what she suspecting that at all?

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Speaker 3: No, like again, and like there was a lot of people like she kind of seemed more overwhelmed about the car than she did the house. And I'm like, and she was telling me because she reads all the she was like, She's like, I can't keep reading comments, all these comments, anyone negative. I just want to I just want to DM and I just want to tell him off. And I'm like, mom, just it's okay, like just chill out. But she was going to reading the comments. She was like, everybody thinks I was more excited about the car than the house, but really the car was just too much and it really just sent me over the edge because you know, like you would to take take too much care of me, and so it was like it was really cool and like, but yeah, she was really surprised when when everybody was in the garage because I did the same thing for my grandma. There's another video of me giving my grandma car and I just used the same like for the video and how to like surprise her with it. I just used the same like kind of idea and yeah, oh man, I can't remember when I when I did that. It was my grandma's It was my grandma's birthday. Yeah, it was like everybody hides in the garage. And then because I didn't know, I was like, Okay, I can't be in the garage cause she's gonna be like, what's going on. So I was like, hey, I need to I said the same thing because we always make videos when I'm back home, So I was like, hey, I need to make another video. I didn't one earlier, didn't do I don't know, I need to redo it. And she was like okay, and then I just started video and I was like it did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was so funny because she was like, you did this, like you did this to grandma and now it's like flipped on me.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was. Man, it's like what you.

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Speaker 3: Dream of, like literally as a kid, and you watch it in the movies, you know the rock star like you know takes care of his family, and you like, it's just everything I was taught growing up too. Just like when you get the chance to help people that helped you, Like, man, my mom, we've talked about this, the fifteen hundred dollars that my mom gave me to record my first song. I quit my job and needed fifteen hundred dollars to become a country singer. Like how does how crazy does that sound? And she was just like, yeah, perfect didn't have fifteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: It gave you to me.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, man, I still got more to do, you know, like she still deserves more because I would not be here without that fifteen hundred Where would I be now? You know?

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Speaker 5: So we interrupt this interview to bring you a message from our sponsor, Wow, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because whenever I started to have success, what I bought my mom was somewhere to live in some land. There were two things that I have a joke that I was doing in my stand up. It was like when I first started, and you're gonna see where this is going. It was when I first started to make money. I bought the two tea's. I bought my mom a trailer and I bought me tea nice Okay, because I had bad teeth growing up my whole life. I didn't get to go to the dentist until I was in my twenties. Yeah, I feel, dude, I feel, and so I don't know. I think that's why, Like I like, I really like you, and like I've told you before you get in trouble, you call me, I'll come get you, no matter where it is. And yeah, like because we come from a very similar background. Yeah, and then I just watch you and I message you about your teeth when you got new teeth. I was like, dude, everything you're doing now, like that's what I did. Like that's some country people coming up and actually like having some success.

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Speaker 3: It's it's like I remember the first time that we got on your podcast, was that at your old house.

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Speaker 1: It was and that was the first interview you had ever done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I never Oh, dude, I was so scared. Dude, I walked in. I was like, dude, I'm so scared. I think I told you that. I was like, Dude, I am kind of really scared right now because I have no idea what's going on. And everybody's saying that like dude, you're like this, like I don't even know what's going on, and like I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Bobby Bones is.

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Speaker 3: I'm just starting music, Like I just came from this trailer park, and that first time, that's what like really kind of kicked us off, was like, oh, we're like almost the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how often do you get home? Now?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: Did I have a house, my mom's house somewhere to like go that. Now it's like, I really try to be back home a bunch because I feel I now, I like when I go home, now, I feel like I don't want to leave, Like I love laying on the couch and chilling my mom, just like hanging out. So I'm going to get back home a lot more. But before that, it was like living in my I was living in my bus there, and which I love my tour bus, you know, and it's like awesome, but it's like you're cooped up on it ten months out of the year. You don't really want to go back home and be cooed. Don't ont a tour bus, I guess.

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Speaker 1: So also, would people know for sure that you were there now since your big old tour bus apart, Yeah it could.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's sometimes got a little weird, but it's like, you know, but and honestly I love it too, Like I just remember, like, dude, how cool would it be just to be like, dude, this a tour bus. Like you've never seen a tour bus. So I'm usually like really cool and I love like showing people the tour bus. I get so much like enjoyment out of that. But it is nice to now have a house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you have a pool?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Was that that's gonna be the hot spot this summer?

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Speaker 1: Was that I must have when you were buying your first house?

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Speaker 2: Well, my first house.

00:23:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just bought a house. Well my mom, so my mom's house back home. But you have a pool too your house, yes, yes, And now if you just bought a house for you, you're buying it. You're buying houses and cars, and but you bought your own house here. Yeah, yes, you have a nice pool.

00:23:33
Speaker 1: Oh it's awesome. Did you have to have a pool?

00:23:35
Speaker 2: I really wanted a pool.

00:23:37
Speaker 3: And for the same reason that I thought, man, I went to my my people that you know, manage all my money because I am smart and well I wouldn't say I'm smart.

00:23:46
Speaker 2: I graduated high school.

00:23:47
Speaker 3: But I want to be smart with my money and I want to I don't want to be the kid that you threw it all the way. So I've got a lot of people that watch that, and I was like, hey, can I can I afford a house with a pool comfortab like even if things just went downhill, you know, can I still just have that like maybe for a little bit and then if I need to have sell it or.

00:24:07
Speaker 2: Whatever, you know? And they were like yeah, like yeah, you're good.

00:24:10
Speaker 3: And I was like okay, And it's like that thing where I they're dude, I never had a pool grown up, Like, oh my gosh, that's like.

00:24:21
Speaker 1: One kid in our neighborhood to have a pool. One kid and it wasn't even that good of a pool, but he had a pool, so he was rich.

00:24:26
Speaker 3: No right, yeah, And that's like we had a friend Clayton Simms. We had to beg him because he knew he was like in control of the pool. Yeah, and he sometimes he'd be like sometimes literally be like, man, no, I don't know about today guys like get kept the pool. Yeah, so yeah, like it's just a big deal. I was like, I really want a pool to go jump in in the summer and have pool parties.

00:24:48
Speaker 2: And I guess I I.

00:24:52
Speaker 3: Woke up one morning and all of a sudden, I was like this song was viral that I'd just written and it wasn't.

00:24:57
Speaker 2: Even a full song yet.

00:24:58
Speaker 1: Dude, you're talking way back, way back in the day. Ride a flashback, but you didn't give us the shaky screen jay flashback.

00:25:04
Speaker 2: Okay, go flashback.

00:25:05
Speaker 3: I'm in my bed, my mom trailer right, and I wake up and my song, a part of a song that wasn't fully written yet.

00:25:14
Speaker 2: Just went violent TikTok.

00:25:16
Speaker 3: And I'm just like, I'm gonna quit my job and I'm not like, dude, I'm gonna do country me with the rest of my life because this one little thing, like I had so much believe in myself and then all of a sudden, like I'm kind of in these moments where I just keep thinking like I've seen this in the movies, So I kind of just started making decisions like like I saw in the movies, Like in the movies, the rich famous guy buys's mama house and takes care of the people that took care of him, and then you know, like he has the crazy.

00:25:44
Speaker 2: Pool parties in the summer. I kind of referenced Nickelback a lot. I'de mat like, I just.

00:25:48
Speaker 3: I'd like to say, you know, just pool parties and having fun and making sure you're enjoying the fruits of your labor, but also you know, like taking care of everybody else. And I think I just like, yeah, dude, like, so imagine you just wake up and you're just in this rock star movie and dude, like, I guess I'm just that's it.

00:26:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just like, is it weird movie you to have?

00:26:10
Speaker 1: Because it was weird for me to hire somebody to handle my money because I never had money, and then I'm paying somebody five percent. That was weird too, to give to pay somebody money to take care of my money because I didn't want people in my money. That was the most part to.

00:26:23
Speaker 3: Understand it all, because I think that's what made me so nervous when I first gave up the freedom was I didn't understand it.

00:26:30
Speaker 2: So me not understanding it, they could.

00:26:33
Speaker 3: Say and do whatever they want because I have no idea what they're talking about.

00:26:36
Speaker 2: So but oh yeah, I would have.

00:26:39
Speaker 1: I still have the same conversations where I call my business manager. Yeah, I didn't even know what that was.

00:26:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I don't know what a businessman knows what a businessman for sure, Yeah, but I'll call because I'm very close to her because now she's been like my person for ten years. Yeah, very close, And I'll go can I get this car now?

00:26:57
Speaker 1: Every time?

00:26:58
Speaker 2: Are you scared before you call? Still?

00:27:00
Speaker 1: I just I'm still. I need to have such a gap between if I buy the car and being poor. I need her to go to you're fine, like you are so good your life, your quality life will not change. Yes, if you buy whatever it is you're asking, and that's the only time that I'll buy it.

00:27:16
Speaker 2: That's I'm the same way. It's like, am I so so good?

00:27:20
Speaker 3: Like if if I ask them, so I'm scared to ask them because I really want to invest in my future and I know they're going to say, well, you could invest this in your future and you don't have to buy this car.

00:27:32
Speaker 2: But I'm so scared to ask them for that reason.

00:27:34
Speaker 3: But then if I go, hey, can I buy this car and it's not like yep, first, I'm like, no, you hesitated.

00:27:40
Speaker 1: I don't.

00:27:41
Speaker 3: I don't want to ever go back to where I was, Like, I want to not be the kid that you know throws it all away. And I just keep thinking that every single time, dude. But I'm still like, if.

00:27:50
Speaker 1: They say yes to I still have it yeah, every time.

00:27:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's honestly the poor kid.

00:27:58
Speaker 3: I was on a podcast day and they were like, what what keeps you just you know, grinding like you do and like, you know, working as hard as you do. And I'm just like the poor kid in the trailer that didn't have anything and had one pair of jeans to wear a school all year and one pair of shoes for a year and a half until the souls were flopping off, like that kid that didn't eat sometimes the kid, you know what I'm saying Like that, that is, like I think, is why we'll probably always like just be like that, cause I don't think that'll ever go away.

00:28:29
Speaker 1: You know, you can't forget that you know a lot older than you. But I've been in a very similar situation where all this is new and crazy and you just think it can be pulled out from under you at any time.

00:28:39
Speaker 2: But yeah, oh yeah, this being scared to lose it all is that's what keeps you up at night.

00:28:45
Speaker 1: My business manager at a point had to say, hey, you need to stop overpaying your bills and give us full control now, because I would overpay them thinking if I was ever fired, I needed a buffer.

00:28:54
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I get it.

00:28:57
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that's what I was doing, and I was doing really well, but I was still like paying.

00:29:01
Speaker 2: Because that is the way we were raised. If you can get ahead on bills.

00:29:06
Speaker 1: When something bad does happen, you're you're okay, they won't shut off your power.

00:29:10
Speaker 2: Dude.

00:29:10
Speaker 3: It's so funny. Like and anybody listeners right now understands if you've lived.

00:29:14
Speaker 2: That, like, you get it.

00:29:16
Speaker 1: She was like, you have to stop overpaying your bills, yeah, because they just keep sending us checks back. And I'm like, but I want to be good in case I'm ever not good, right.

00:29:23
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:29:23
Speaker 1: It was a big commitment for me to do autobill pay JOm they're automatically going to take what if I don't have it? That was my fear, Like what if they come forward in my auto pay and.

00:29:33
Speaker 2: I don't have it? Yeah, it's so true.

00:29:35
Speaker 1: And I've been good now, like it just it's exposure therapy.

00:29:40
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:29:41
Speaker 1: I still get nervous sometimes and I have trouble, Like sometimes I'll work myself to death and my wife will will see it. And it's great having a wife now that can understand that about me.

00:29:52
Speaker 2: Be nice.

00:29:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, and She'll go, who's working hard right now? You are twelve year old, are you?

00:29:58
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:29:59
Speaker 1: And there's a difference in the two because twelve year old me is just trying to survive.

00:30:02
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like, dude, doggy dog like doggy dog world, Like I get it.

00:30:08
Speaker 1: Yoh yeah, you're playing arenas Dude, that's crazy and it's crazy. I say that in a way of like salidatory crazy. Oh yeah, you're doing it. It's crazy. You're doing an arena tour, dude, it's crazy.

00:30:18
Speaker 2: The kid the trailers doing that's so wild. This is my biggest dream, like this, this is like everything.

00:30:27
Speaker 3: I put my all into this, like ever since I started, and I played the first you know, three or four or five shows and got that taste and then I saw what can be done, and like I was just like I want that bad, like I wanted it.

00:30:43
Speaker 1: Nervous about tickets, like since it's a it's a growth, right, Yeah, we were nervous about tickets selling.

00:30:51
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course. I've been nervous about every single tour though.

00:30:53
Speaker 3: I don't think that will ever go away because I always want to like really deliver for my fans.

00:30:59
Speaker 2: And I also that thing where I'm like, am I delivering enough? Am I doing enough? Am I?

00:31:02
Speaker 1: Like?

00:31:03
Speaker 2: You know, is the show big enough?

00:31:05
Speaker 1: Is there enough? Pyro?

00:31:06
Speaker 2: Is there enough?

00:31:06
Speaker 3: This?

00:31:06
Speaker 2: Is there enough?

00:31:07
Speaker 3: You know?

00:31:08
Speaker 2: Like can I do more?

00:31:10
Speaker 3: You know? Like, oh man, my team's about to kill me this year. My budgets, bro, because you want to make the show so good. I just want to make it. I want them to go home going. That is the sickest show I've ever seen, Oh my gosh. And so yeah, dude, it's been like everything I've dreamed of. So I've been like overboard this year, like oh yeah. And I was so nervous about the tickets selling because I was just like I don't know, you know, I don't know, but you're trying sounding bigger so and you have a lot of tickets you don't Yeah, you don't have anything to compare it to because it's a new world for you.

00:31:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, how to go. I think it went amazing.

00:31:46
Speaker 3: I think it was like seventy percent day of tickets. Oh, we sold out a bunch of like good but it seems like everything's like gonna be sold out. And even even if I don't like sell it out, I think that can be like this like mark that artists like feel, oh, if I didn't sell it out, it's a failure. I don't care, dude, if I sell it seventy eighty nine, Dude, eighty percent sold out on my first rentotour. That's my first time. I'll go try it again and write more music and do more things. And you know, it's all like such an evolution. I think that's that took me a long time to figure out too, Like, hey, not everything's gonna be so up and up and sold out, like some.

00:32:28
Speaker 2: Things are gonna grow, some things are gonna whatever.

00:32:30
Speaker 3: And I think it's actually made it more fun because when it did almost sell out on the day of, I was like, dude, like you just I just like, holy crap, Like I'm like selling out Arenas Bro, Like we're gonna do this thing like bud Stage. One of my favorite places I remember playing with Morgan was Bud Stage in Toronto. I don't think it's called bud Stage anymore, but anyways, Uh, dude sold out on on pre sale and then we added I think we had another night. Maybe maybe not, I don't know, but yeah, dude, crazy.

00:33:01
Speaker 1: Like that's so mature because I still struggle with if it's not. If I'm doing a theater, I'm telling jokes, it's not sold out, I'm like, I've lost it. People don't care as much of it.

00:33:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, dude, I get it.

00:33:13
Speaker 1: And I will go when tickets going sell and I'll look at every seat because theaters have seats, and I'll go two together that aren't sold. Yep, somebody didn't want to get People don't want to come and see me anymore.

00:33:23
Speaker 2: Did I get it?

00:33:24
Speaker 1: Your way ahead? You're advanced.

00:33:26
Speaker 3: I just had to get over that because it was taken over my life. Like it was like, ah, I'm not in the trailer anymore, and.

00:33:36
Speaker 1: I'm taking advice record right now.

00:33:39
Speaker 3: No, it's and honestly is I think like where I've come down to. The one thing I always go to is I'm putting energy into the art that I'm putting out into the world, and what happens to that art after I put out in the world is not in my control. Whether they like it, don't like it, listen, don't listen. I am putting out what I love and I am proud of every single day. And this show that I go do this year in the arenas, it's gonna be a show that I'm very proud of. Whether I make a dollar or two dollars, whatever it is, I'm gonna be so proud of the show and go.

00:34:10
Speaker 2: I gave that my all, and if that wasn't.

00:34:12
Speaker 3: Enough, then I gave it everything I got when I when I go home, you know what I'm saying. And that's what's made me be able to just be like I'm proud. So we're good, it'll be good.

00:34:22
Speaker 1: Have you rehearsed?

00:34:23
Speaker 2: It's not yet.

00:34:24
Speaker 3: We're still working pretty hard on it, trying to get everything, but it's it's so close, like i'd say, like eighty percent. So we're gonna go into rehearsals in like three weeks or so.

00:34:35
Speaker 1: I think, can you talk me through what a rehearsal is, because I think a lot of people would just go rehearse. Don't you already know the songs?

00:34:41
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:34:41
Speaker 3: So it's like, it's kind of funny what it takes to get the show to feel so awesome and big and like professional, right, Like it takes this sound coming out of the speakers when this thing hits, and then these lights hitting on the same beat to make sure everything feels big at the same.

00:35:02
Speaker 2: It takes. That takes like light by light by.

00:35:06
Speaker 3: I mean, these people are bilography hundreds of hours into just before the show. Let's talk about like pre prep, right, like prep for pre rehearsal. We're doing all the videos that's going on on the screen. Where I redid my whole staging, so I redid everything my my I redid my cat walk up top, I added things to my stage. I added more linked to my thrust. I made my thrust figger. I did different lights because I didn't like how those were hitting last year. Like I mean, I detailed every single thing with this whole team I've got, and all that pre pro like pre production will go into rehearsals, and then when we get into rehearsals, we'll have an idea of how it's going to go. But then we'll build out like the big moments and make sure everything hits right on beat.

00:35:54
Speaker 2: And when when this pyto is.

00:35:57
Speaker 3: Going up, the boys, you know my boys, Chris Jarcos, Brendan Orchard plays bass, plays guitar. They they'll jump up off the stage at the same time the pyle hits, and then when they come down, they'll both hit at the same time. That's what makes it look sick, and that takes a lot of work and a lot of time, and that's what rehearsals for us to make sure. Well, I'll just go through and more so choreography, making sure like all moments to breathe, What am I doing? What are the boys doing?

00:36:28
Speaker 1: Stop moments breath? That's like moments to catch your breath.

00:36:30
Speaker 3: It really is, because if not, you'll hurt your voice and then you'll be out of breath. Then it'll sound awful, and then it won't sound good.

00:36:36
Speaker 2: So yeah, like all the moves.

00:36:39
Speaker 3: And running around and stuff, it's just like trying to yeap, figure out where to breathe.

00:36:43
Speaker 2: Singing the songs, doing it. And then it's also just like.

00:36:46
Speaker 3: You know, I played baseball growing up, and my dad would always be like, make sure you put the weight on the bat on deck, cause if you go take those swings with that weight, it's gonna feel real light when you get to actually go, you know, swinging in the box.

00:37:00
Speaker 2: Oh.

00:37:01
Speaker 3: Kind of the same thing with rehearsal is like we just do it over and over and over, and then I'll sit back and let the boys do it. After I figured it all out, I'll sit back on the couch in the middle of this warehouse where we do it, and I'll watch the stage and be like, I don't like that.

00:37:16
Speaker 2: That's not good.

00:37:17
Speaker 3: And then I'll just fine tune it to where when we get to dress rehearsal the day of the first arena tour in Florida, it'll be like.

00:37:25
Speaker 1: Minty dialed, how do you know you're having a good show?

00:37:29
Speaker 3: Oh, you just feel it? I think I think you know, you know, like you feel it. You're like, I'm kind of on a roll here, like I'm feeling pretty good.

00:37:36
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I think the difference is for me, I can tell because I'm hearing laughter. I'm not wearing ears. When you're wearing ears, it's a whole different monster because even if the crowd's micd up, there's a slight delay with yeah, So it's different for somebody that's wearing ears.

00:37:48
Speaker 3: My opinion is I turn my ears up and I play my best show. That's one thing I had to get through my head too. Not every show is gonna be awesome, And now everybody's gonna have that energy that the middle of Ohio and a small town had, right, you know that just stupid energy flames. Oh my gosh, they aren't freaking out. Some people sit there and just watch the show and listen, and some people aren't going to be raging. So I'm just in my ears. I'm gonna sing the best show that I'm proud, Like, i just want to be proud of what I do, So I'm like, focus on the show, not the crowd.

00:38:19
Speaker 2: A big piece of advice that I got man early early, was.

00:38:24
Speaker 1: Early early.

00:38:25
Speaker 3: I've only been in a five years, right, but but was focus on the people that are there, not the empty chairs. Don't focus on the empty chairs, because what are you focusing on that?

00:38:38
Speaker 2: For?

00:38:38
Speaker 3: Bro, you just came from a trailer and you're getting paid to sing these songs that you wrote with your buddies in a house in Nashville. Like, let's be grateful, let's be awesome, and let's try to play the best show as we can out there and rock as hard as we can and if we're sweating and we and every night we go kind of back through and we go, hey, you know, this wasn't good. I'm gonna I'm gonna work on that in in you know, uh sound check tomorrow. I'm gonna so it's like always an evolutioning thing, but not worrying about those empty chairs and focusing on the people that are there to support you and your songs and like what you're doing, you know, and they are rage and they are having fun.

00:39:13
Speaker 2: So let's go.

00:39:14
Speaker 1: You're right because you talked about cars in a way you can tell you love cars. You're talking about music in a way the Dwarfs. How you're talking about cars instead. I it's, ah, it's just so weird. It's so weird how you got here?

00:39:28
Speaker 2: Weird, dude, unorthodox, very unorthodox.

00:39:32
Speaker 3: I think everybody feels it too, even my mom, Like I've had to be like, this is weird, hauns. She's like, this is so weird. Like you're you're like you're like country rock. Yeah, not wrong, so weird. No, it's just weird.

00:39:45
Speaker 1: It's weird. It's it's weird how I got here. It's kind of weird how everybody gets here.

00:39:48
Speaker 3: We said my bass player Christiarcos, when we're playing golf, and you know how you'll hit that weird but good shot where it's it's well, that was weird, but it worked.

00:39:58
Speaker 1: It didn't look like maybe the best one would look. But it's there. Yeah, that's so true.

00:40:04
Speaker 2: Yep, weird but good.

00:40:06
Speaker 1: Here we are. Hang tight.

00:40:07
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

00:40:21
Speaker 1: I want to do this. Give me the three questions that people ask you in every single interview. I should have done this at the beginning because I never wanted to do that. When you sit down for an interview, Okay, what's the one question you know they're gonna ask every time? Hm?

00:40:36
Speaker 3: Hm?

00:40:41
Speaker 2: Oh so how's the search for a wife?

00:40:44
Speaker 1: Okay? And then what do you I just want to quick answer, what do you say to that?

00:40:50
Speaker 2: Not the greatest? I mean, still there?

00:40:56
Speaker 1: All right? Give me number two. Every interview you get asked.

00:41:05
Speaker 2: Hmm.

00:41:06
Speaker 1: And probably now you're gonna get a lot about your mom and that those videos.

00:41:09
Speaker 3: It's usually I would say maybe the second most thing is like Marley and Pie. That you know Marley and Pie because I post about them a bunch of my golden retrievers. Marley and Pie are my two golden retrievers.

00:41:22
Speaker 1: I liked you look at the camera and talk yes, and you do it in the fourth then you do It's okay, I did it earlier too. Yeah, you do a karate shop. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so we got the dogs and give me one more. Hmm.

00:41:37
Speaker 2: I think.

00:41:39
Speaker 3: The same thing, like, how weird is it that you're like a country artist now and you're like selling like lots of tickets and you're like doing the big thing, and I'm like really freaking weird, and like how is it?

00:41:51
Speaker 2: And I always are.

00:41:53
Speaker 3: Saying, imagine, like yourself right now and close your eyes, you know, close your eyes with me.

00:41:57
Speaker 1: Bobby.

00:42:00
Speaker 3: You're in your bed and your eyes are closed, and you posted this video last night. But you're just like some random kid in some small town of like eight hundred people in your mom's trailer, and you wake up and your like phone, now, open your eyes, right, we're awake, and your phone is like blowing up off and it's like almost buzzing off the table, and you grab it and your TikTok says eight hundred and something thousand notifications and your song's like gone viral.

00:42:23
Speaker 2: You're part of your song that you wrote, super weird but good.

00:42:27
Speaker 3: So then all of a sudden you're just like you quit your job, day up, go figure out how to record the song.

00:42:33
Speaker 2: Fast forward.

00:42:34
Speaker 3: You keep doing videos, you keep doing that you're like, you ask your mom for fifty hundred bucks, You go to the studio, you record the song, you put the song out, and it streams like millions, like first five days, ten days, whatever, and then all of a sudden, you're in Nashville and you're living and you just signed a record deal. Then all of a sudden, Morgan Wallin calls you and he's like, hey, did you want to go on a stadium tour for two years?

00:42:53
Speaker 2: And I'm like yeah, and then I go do that, and then I go do.

00:42:58
Speaker 3: My own tours that sell out and I put out songs and then like my first album, you know, religiously, the album breaks records. Imagine all that happening that's happened to me, to you, And that's exactly how it feels. And it is crazy, bro, Like I'd wake up every day and I'm like, dude, like, pinch me, this is crazy, like really really cool.

00:43:18
Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts of your story, because I totally related it was you coming down here and really not knowing the difference as an agent and a manager, and because who knows that stuff until you're like taught it.

00:43:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I couldn't have. I remember telling you this. I thought you couldn't have a manager and a label at the same time.

00:43:36
Speaker 1: But who knows the difference, Like again, unless somebody takes you by the hand and says, here's what a record label does, here's why you need a manager. Here's the difference in a manager and an agent. Who knows what those people do. I would just hear people do award show speeches and roll my eyes. They'd be like, I want to think of my agent. I'm a lawyer, and I'm just like, why are you thinking these Are they not the same person? What do they even do? That says, But then once you kind of get in it, you're like, oh, all these people are like vital oh dude, and they're DoD they do different jobs.

00:44:02
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and the and the manager, lawyer. They all sound like big words, Like wow, big word.

00:44:11
Speaker 1: That is you a little ward speech? You think you're so good you have a lawyer, you have an agent.

00:44:16
Speaker 3: No, it's so true, though, Like nobody knows until you're like in it and you're like, oh, dang, like I have to have all these people or my business I won't run Like.

00:44:25
Speaker 1: It's always crazy to learn about having to pay percentages because yeah, you get a manager. I get a manager and they're like, yep, we want to represent you. We're going to be sure to get you these deals. We're going to every day, day to day. We're working with you Macro micro that'll be fifteen percent of everything.

00:44:40
Speaker 3: Yeah what Yeah, And at the time you're kind of just like I didn't even know. I was like, Okay, I don't know.

00:44:47
Speaker 1: I was like, am I going to make it?

00:44:50
Speaker 3: I was given twenty percent at the start of my career yep, But hey, I honestly, I'm so blessed, dude.

00:44:56
Speaker 1: I've had like my team in my corner.

00:44:58
Speaker 5: Now.

00:44:58
Speaker 3: We had gone through some bumps at the beginning with I had had two managers. Really like nobody knows this about me, but I had two managers at when I first started, and then I had like kind of parted ways with one of them. And my team now kind of really helped me with that and got me through it and taught me, like showed me and like okay, this is how and they they kind of like and now they're my team now, dude, love them to death, Like wouldn't be able to run without them, but like they were the ones that kind of took my hand.

00:45:26
Speaker 2: We're like, yeah, we didn't love that deal and that thing, but we didn't want to.

00:45:30
Speaker 3: You know, you don't know us and trust us yet, so we don't want to try to tell you what to do because we want to let you do it.

00:45:34
Speaker 2: And I was like okay.

00:45:35
Speaker 3: So it's like the learning lessons were there, but I got very blessed with a small learning lesson.

00:45:41
Speaker 2: It wasn't like this.

00:45:43
Speaker 3: It didn't destroy it, you know because some people man that can like, yeah, it's very important. And anybody that asked me, like, what's one piece of advice you know when you when you're being an artist or whatever?

00:45:52
Speaker 1: That could have been an answer to what do people ask you?

00:45:54
Speaker 2: Nobody asked me that very often, but when I when.

00:45:57
Speaker 1: They do, Okay, what's one piece of advice you'd give to people come into town?

00:46:01
Speaker 3: I would say, like knowing what's going on and like understanding the business of what what's happening like.

00:46:08
Speaker 1: But how would they learn that? Because you get swept It's all right, so here you got swept here?

00:46:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, yeah, how do you learn that? Well?

00:46:16
Speaker 3: You choose the right people to teach you, of course, which is hard. But you got to go by your gut. You got it, you know, Like I have faith. I have my faith that I lean on, so I have prayer and I have you know, that's what I have to lean on. So I was like, I think this is the right thing. But also I read this book and it's called Everything you Need to Know About the Music Industry.

00:46:38
Speaker 1: See that's some real practical advice right there.

00:46:40
Speaker 3: Yes, so like I have certain things that I choose to have, but something that anybody can go get ay Amazon and Everything you Need to Know about the Music Industry unbelievable teaches you just the basics of like okay, understanding what everything is and just like the basic gunners. But the more important thing is knowing who you're getting into like a partnership with and understanding that like, hey, this is years of your career and they are going to have control of this and they are going to have like percentage of this, and like you got to make sure that they're going to want to work as hard as you and believe in you as much as you believe in you.

00:47:20
Speaker 2: And there's all these things.

00:47:21
Speaker 3: But I think a lot of people sometimes come to town on this like fairy tale dream that everybody's just gonna be nice. And then like me, I got introduced kind of to the real world of how some cats can be and the like the world, and like it was kind of just like small learning lesson. But yeah, I would say, just be careful who you give percentage of your art to and what you're doing, because that's like you sign that contract. That's a contract, and that's a real thing.

00:47:48
Speaker 1: So we have people to bring by music that means a lot to them. So that record for any we hold that up and I'm so excited and walk us through why you pick this and what it is. I'm so excited show what they can and you've been making love to.

00:48:02
Speaker 2: There it is.

00:48:02
Speaker 3: Hello, this album is called pawn Shop, and you want me to explain why it's important to me? Because so they told me. They told me, I'm I'm giving you an album. That's what they said, Bobby. They were an album. And I say this, you can say whatever you want. Am I allowed, like, is there secrets that I should be keeping?

00:48:23
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but I will charge you a percentage.

00:48:27
Speaker 3: So they were like, hey, were you're supposed to get your one of your favorite records vinyls and they're going to give it to Bobby for the podcast, and dude, this is like and it's crazy. I just want to say, Okay, so what do you want me to do? Tell them why Brothers Osborne Pawnshop? Why does that record mean a lot to you? This record means a bunch to me because I remember hearing it for the first time because it was twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen, I got my license that year. Pawnshop was just cranked and the first time I kind of fell in love with this girl from a town over. Our song was twenty one summer off this record, and every time I hear that song, it just takes me right back, man, and I'm just like from chills right now, just like thinking about like how much this like impacted my life, and like just the song. Every song just goes through and man, they put the outros on there and they put the it's just.

00:49:27
Speaker 1: Oh dude, you know those guys.

00:49:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man, I've got to see them live so many times. I just got chills thinking about watching them just shred live. I've gotten to see them live, stood backstage, partied with him. Oh yeah, they're the boys, dude. Oh yeah, that's so that's exactly what you're supposed to do.

00:49:44
Speaker 2: Yep.

00:49:44
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah he laid down.

00:49:45
Speaker 3: So yeah, favorite record, great record, and it's funny. So another thing which is crazy. The other day, three weeks ago, okay, three weeks ago, I'm in my car and I don't listen to music a lot. I usually kind to take car rides to just focus and kind of think and let my brain just like wonder, this's like figure stuff out.

00:50:06
Speaker 1: I don't know, just think.

00:50:07
Speaker 3: And I just got on my phone and just click Pawnshop and just let the whole record go. I don't listen to records all the way through very often. I don't listen to music option, but for some reason I just threw that on. And then the other day I see that the tenth Anniversary is coming out. How weird that just like all of a sudden, I'm just like randomly listening to music and I don't listen to and it's this record and they're about to put the tenth Anniversary and it's.

00:50:33
Speaker 1: Like a deluxe version they're putting out of that record.

00:50:36
Speaker 3: Well, allegedly, I looked at it on Spotify and it's got the demo of Pawnshop, which is going to be pretty cool, so I could. I always love when artists do that, like put out demos and how it worked and how it because I don't think a lot of people know that, like how a song gets written.

00:50:54
Speaker 1: I think that would be a cool thing for you to teach everybody. So walk us through that. So you go, you have a right today you write? What's it? So let's just start there. You write a song. Let's let's say the song is called I Love People. That's gonna be the name of the song. You write the song, then what happens.

00:51:09
Speaker 3: Well I would have came in and sat down just like this, and I'd grab the guitar and I'd been like, hmm, I had this the other day, this guitar riff, and then we would have oh I love that well, and then I'd have been like what about this melody?

00:51:20
Speaker 2: Oh I love that?

00:51:20
Speaker 3: And then we would have wrote the words and then ended up just writing a song and keep bouncing off each other.

00:51:24
Speaker 2: And then after a song gets is it written? Yeah?

00:51:28
Speaker 1: Written? Yeah, for the song's written.

00:51:29
Speaker 3: After a song's written, I would say like, if you're loving it and you're like, yo, I got it, cause you'll feel it. You'll be like, dude, I gotta get this cart I got to show people this, and usually it's not good enough to show people yet because you hear it in your head, you know how Like you know, do you ever like.

00:51:44
Speaker 2: Show people something and you'd be like, well, I'm gonna change this.

00:51:47
Speaker 1: It's not all the way done yet.

00:51:48
Speaker 3: If it's not just got picture it if we did it, Like just imagine if there was like this one bell like like hitting right here and like so so I'm like so you'll feel that right and you'll be like, Okay, I gotta get this done. So so go to the studio cut it, and honestly, for me, it's like every day after that is just like musicians getting the musicians into the studio cutting it the way.

00:52:11
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know how hard it is to cut a guitar.

00:52:13
Speaker 1: You don't.

00:52:15
Speaker 2: When you write a song.

00:52:16
Speaker 3: You'll write it, but then when you go to produce it and make it real, sometimes that guitar rift doesn't stay and you'll have to like keep trying new things, so you'll just like on that chord, you'll try to find some pick thing or like it takes sometimes hours or days or months, like on some of my songs it's taken. Like we would be like, man, something's not right about this song, and then it would end up being this one acoustic little thing that just threw it off or made it too slow or too whatever. But like it takes time to find like the guitar, the drum groove. Does it have drums?

00:52:53
Speaker 1: Is it not drums?

00:52:54
Speaker 3: You know? So like you kind of go through that whole process of just making the song. So you've written it and now you're in the studio and then you're just like I just spend every day after that just like with the musicians, and we'll call the guitar back in if it's not you know whatever, and then cutting the vocal. I think I take like like one hundred and usually like one hundred takes of this one hundred and twenty takes of the song over and over and over and verses and verses and verses, and then choruses and choruses and choruses and over and over and try to get really comfortable. And then usually about one hundred and twenty one, I'll really just hone one in that's like all right, like perfect, And then once you've got everything where you like it, it's done, and you can start the marketing management that old thing. You know.

00:53:38
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like you get so inside of a song though you can't tell if it's good anymore because you're so inside of it.

00:53:43
Speaker 3: Well, it's like I feel like I've been there sometimes, but then it ended up I was actually not wrong.

00:53:51
Speaker 1: I was like, no, there was something wrong with it, and that's why my gut kept telling me. So you just trust your guy.

00:53:56
Speaker 3: I do.

00:53:56
Speaker 2: And I'm like, if it's not perfect, I'm like, I don't want to put it out. I don't. I don't feel like I'm proud of this yet.

00:54:02
Speaker 3: It's just there's something off, like, and it's really hard to because people will be around you and they'll be like, oh, like this is it, dude, No, it's good, it's good, and it's like they're not making this.

00:54:15
Speaker 2: Do not listen to them. I'm making this.

00:54:17
Speaker 1: It's not good enough yet your names on it.

00:54:19
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a reason, and then they're gonna be.

00:54:21
Speaker 3: And every single time you go back and show them after you fixed whatever you've wanted to fix, they go, oh, you're right, that does make it hot matter, and I'm like thanks, yeah, so yes, dude, follow your gut. Man, Just if you don't like it, then you don't like it. Right, it's your art, you know, you got to put it out how you like it.

00:54:39
Speaker 1: Follow your gut. You very much followed your gut to get here, and you made a lot of difficult decisions, risky decisions to get here, meaning you quit your job, you moved, you got money from your mom, you just packed up. Like what are you people watching there? So listen to it right now and they're God, I don't know if I should, Like what is your advice there to people chasing it?

00:55:00
Speaker 2: I mean, really, it's what gets you so riled up?

00:55:03
Speaker 3: Like you know, kind of like you were saying earlier, like how you know how amped I am about cars and music?

00:55:09
Speaker 2: Like are you amped like that about what you're doing?

00:55:12
Speaker 1: And are you I was?

00:55:14
Speaker 3: I was when I when I that video went viral and I saw the opportunity. My dad like growing up, always was like if you got opportunity, that's not going to come around very often, and when you get it, you better take a hold of that and you better run with it as fast as you can, like and as hard as you can, I mean, just like take it.

00:55:31
Speaker 2: You know, and.

00:55:34
Speaker 3: So when I had that opportunity, I was just like when I had discovered songwriting for me, it just felt like man like freeing and I could like and when I wrote that song that was the first song I ever tried to like really write.

00:55:46
Speaker 2: It was called Never Coming Home.

00:55:47
Speaker 3: And when I first tried to write that song, just writing a song and nothing is wrong, there's no wrong way to do anything, and that's what I just loved. I'm like, there's nobody's telling me there's no wrong way to do this. I'm just right in a song that like resonates with me. And then I remember listening to it on the way home that night after I wrote it and just listening to like my like my voice too, the speakers, and it made me so just amped and just like this is making me electric and I haven't felt this ever in my life, just so amped about something and hyped up and caring about something so much. I would say, like that feeling, man, when you have that like, don't let that go and don't be scared and let that scared, Like well, what if it doesn't work?

00:56:31
Speaker 1: But what if it does?

00:56:33
Speaker 3: And you got this passion and fire in your stomach and you can feel it and you're like, man, I love this, Like don't let that go. Like That's what I did when I felt that. That's what my dad always like taught like, if you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life. And I was so scared of working for the rest of my life on something that I didn't love and something that I hated. That's where I was at in my life at the time, was like I hate what I'm doing and I don't want to spend the rest of my life like this. And man, when I, like I said, when I got into music, writing is just like this thing that just took a hold of me.

00:57:06
Speaker 2: And I was just like, man, I love this, bro.

00:57:08
Speaker 3: And the feeling of writing a hit when you write it, and the feeling of like, you know, playing that awesome show or you know, whatever it may be when you're doing it, don't.

00:57:18
Speaker 2: Lose that and just chase it.

00:57:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, chase that dream that you feel, because yeah, you never know when that's gonna go away. And that's ah, man, that's what like I wish everybody could feel like we feel, you know, that fire when you wake up. I love waking up. I love waking up. I love getting out of my bed. I'm like, thank god, I'm alive. I'm gonna go write my songs. Oh dude, yeah, I'm like, good morning, girls, I got my golden golden retriever girls. I'm like, love you girls. Let's go work, let's go grind. It's time to write songs. It's time to keep going. Like I just love it, man, and like so to anybody out there that feels that fire and like whatever, dude, chase that. Let's go like one life. And we all got the same twenty four hours the day.

00:58:01
Speaker 2: So let's go.

00:58:02
Speaker 1: We're about to wrap this up. But Stephen Wilson was talking to Stephen Wilson and he was talking about he, you know, was working as a scientist and he had done music obviously, and that he had the urge to do music, but he hadn't. You're talking about Stephen Wilson Jr.

00:58:21
Speaker 2: It's crazy you're saying this. I was just saying this the other day, and how wild.

00:58:25
Speaker 1: He started to feel like if he didn't get called to go do music, that's when he was a failure. And he wanted to chase it while he's before it went away on him because he felt like if he ever went to work and didn't have the dream anymore, that he failed. And so it was really hard. He had to leave his job and start over and wait at tables for years, and but he was like, I was scared that I wouldn't have that calling at me anymore, because I knew when it wasn't calling me anymore that dream was dead.

00:58:51
Speaker 2: Yep.

00:58:52
Speaker 1: That guy. That guy makes music. That guy makes music I like, personally love.

00:58:59
Speaker 3: And honestly, he made music that makes you question if you're a real artist or not, because when I listened to it, like I came to town twenty twenty one and was listening to nineteen ninety four You're to Be Young, nineteen ninety four Stephen Wilson Junior, just dude, And I got to tell him this backstage of the CMA Awards, and I was just like, dude, like this really resonated and you could tell he was like so appreciative of me, saying like wow, this real like just got me through, Like I feel this, dude, like and yeah, it's crazy.

00:59:34
Speaker 2: Dude was a scientist.

00:59:36
Speaker 1: Yeah what like, dude were scientists?

00:59:40
Speaker 3: Oh and he's legend, Like you talked to him you're just like, holy crap, dude, like your songs are just I told him.

00:59:47
Speaker 1: I didn't even know how to tell him how much because this town, everybody says they love everything, of course, yeah, right, right, right, But there are only a couple of things that I personally consume and love. There's a a lot of things that I like and respect and understand it's awesome, of course, but there's only a couple or a few things that I consume that really touches me in a place where everybody's trying to be touched well, because we're humans, yeah, and we're in the middle of it all, you know. And I was like it may have been kind of weird to him, and I was like, dude, I love what you do, like, I actually like your stuff. Yeah, it was just a weird compliment. It is that I actually like your stuff.

01:00:23
Speaker 3: I've said that before too, because you're like, hey, I don't like a lot. Yeah, And I don't know if that means anything to you, but no, that's me. It's something for me, like, and I feel like that dude really takes that to the soul. Because I was having trouble too, because I was like, dude, like I didn't know how to compliment, like legend bro, like you're in like I don't know. I keep saying like like like because I have no idea.

01:00:47
Speaker 2: What to say.

01:00:48
Speaker 1: That's how it was with him, that that conversation comes up in about a week or so on this it'll be on and it was it was really like that guy has one been through it, yeah, crazy and is able to express it through music that makes you not only understand what he went through, but makes you understand what you're going through now. It's like you're you know, we hear music and a sign our own stories to it, and he's able to one give you his story and have you feel your story inside of that. And it's a rare. It's a rare.

01:01:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

01:01:30
Speaker 1: Different night, same Rodeo tour kicks off in February. It's gonna roll all the way through June. Who's out with you?

01:01:34
Speaker 2: Hudson Westbrook and that dude.

01:01:37
Speaker 1: I love Hudson Westbrook. Always do his music because I like that acoustic guitar emotion, like that's another person. And also he's way younger than I am. So I didn't want to be like I love you because I don't want to, but like his stuff real.

01:01:49
Speaker 2: Yeah no.

01:01:50
Speaker 3: When I first heard it on TikTok, I was like, yep, there it is. Yeah, heard it and then I've been a fan from that day on. And then I didn't thank you. It was gonna say yes to go on toward me and uh he heading back, He's like, dude, i'd love to and I'm like really and he's like yeah, and I'm like, all right, sick, let's go, dude, Yeah, let's go. I'm so excited, Like my kid, I'm twenty five, he's the same age as.

01:02:13
Speaker 2: Me, but you know, give him.

01:02:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, Morgan got to call you more. How cool is it now you get to call people and do that for them. It's crazy, dude. I'm so happy for you.

01:02:22
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm happy for you. Yeah.

01:02:25
Speaker 3: Like I feel the same towards you as well, Like I'm like, dude, this is like and I feel really like like honored to be a friend because remember when we first got.

01:02:34
Speaker 1: I agree, and we don't. This town keeps people from talking a lot because we're not in talent. It's it's a run, run, run, go away world, but I reach out. I don't reach out to many folks, but I try to hitch up every couple of months. If we don't talk and just be like thinking about you. Yeah, I know you don't need me, but if you ever do, I'm right here.

01:02:52
Speaker 2: No, dude, I I it's nice to have friends that like don't.

01:02:57
Speaker 1: Don't need anything from him.

01:02:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I don't, but if I do, I will call you. And if you do, like Chad from Nickelback, I I'll call him, really I will.

01:03:07
Speaker 3: He said the same thing. Hey, I know you don't need me, but if you need anything, let me know. I'm like, I will because.

01:03:12
Speaker 1: I feel like I would call you. I feel like I would call you if I needed something to because I wanted. Yeah, because I would feel like you wouldn't be thinking I was trying to get something from like it wouldn't be for any mode of other than just like yeah, like a relationship friend. Yeah yeah, yeah, of course. Well I'm happy for you. And you brought the mom stuff up, so that was all funny. But we brought the mom stuff up and my mom said she does love you, And Mom, thank you, you raised a good one. There you go. Thank you Yeah, good to see you, man, good to see you. They're great and dude, the karate chopping, the cameras, I say, but do. They're great. Biley's everman, everybody, I Love you by. This has been a Bobby cast production.