"Weird Science" (1985) vs. "Real Genius" (1985): Part 1

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<v Speaker 3>Can't Be Serious podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for
<v Speaker 3>another fantastic episode of nineteen eighty five movies, because we
<v Speaker 3>are here to talk about the movies real genius and
<v Speaker 3>weird science.
<v Speaker 4>I know these are like nerds just want to have fun, right.
<v Speaker 3>I know. Nineteen eighty four we found out that nerds
<v Speaker 3>can be heroes and it took off like a frickin' firecracker,
<v Speaker 3>like a spaceship out of the back of a house. Right,
<v Speaker 3>that's right, I mean, because we just we covered a
<v Speaker 3>little earlier this season. We covered One Crazy Summer and
<v Speaker 3>Better Off Dead, both totally nerds against you know, the
<v Speaker 3>what about the snobs against the slobs? Right right? And
<v Speaker 3>we've got a couple of movies that are just both
<v Speaker 3>icons of nineteen eighty five, which we've been talking about
<v Speaker 3>doing four years. We finally put it on the schedule
<v Speaker 3>this year, and tragically it falls just after the death
<v Speaker 3>of Al Kilmer. You know, that one really hit me hard.
<v Speaker 4>He was somebody that I enjoyed his movies. I found
<v Speaker 4>him funny, he was dramatic, he was could be a
<v Speaker 4>romantic lead. He kind of covered the board and just
<v Speaker 4>a super skilled guy and real loss.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, truly. And it was funny because when they announced
<v Speaker 3>his death, like the New York Times included the Batman
<v Speaker 3>role on there. And I'm like, guys, I mean, of
<v Speaker 3>all the roles, you're gonna mention Batman, come on, I mean,
<v Speaker 3>it's an iconic role, but he didn't but not for him.
<v Speaker 3>He didn't really do it. No. No, I mean say
<v Speaker 3>Doc Holliday, say Jim Morrison sayin yeah, Chris Knight even, yes,
<v Speaker 3>but not not Batman.
<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you this for me, the most iconic roles
<v Speaker 4>of Val Kilmer. I mean it's Iceman, Jim Morrison, and
<v Speaker 4>it is Chris nine and Doc Holiday.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, and the you know he said he said
<v Speaker 3>after a Top Gun he has never ever been in
<v Speaker 3>an airport where another pilot didn't call him iceman. That
<v Speaker 3>makes sense, right, right? I mean, how many pilots or
<v Speaker 3>pilots because of that movie? Right? Oh?
<v Speaker 4>I know my roommate in college was one exactly, Doug Huggin,
<v Speaker 4>friend of the show yep.
<v Speaker 3>Oh. And by the way, guys, we have covered Top Gun.
<v Speaker 3>Definitely go back and check that episode out. We also
<v Speaker 3>covered the soundtrack. Go check that episode out. We compared
<v Speaker 3>it to Maverick, which is one of the best I mean,
<v Speaker 3>coming twentieth century to the twenty first century remake or
<v Speaker 3>reboot or whatever you want to call it, best sequels
<v Speaker 3>I've ever seen. It was a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, by the way, funny story. Yes, my roommate in college,
<v Speaker 4>Doug Huggin, Yes, a friend of the show.
<v Speaker 3>You've met him.
<v Speaker 4>He would put in the top gun VHS tape in
<v Speaker 4>our room. Uh huh, hit pause to look at and
<v Speaker 4>make sure he's put his uniform together the way.
<v Speaker 3>That's fantastic, Doug.
<v Speaker 4>All right, So we're talking about Weird Science, which is
<v Speaker 4>a John Hughes movie.
<v Speaker 3>Yep, we really haven't.
<v Speaker 4>We've dipped our toe a little bit into John Hughes,
<v Speaker 4>but we really haven't.
<v Speaker 3>Gone all the way. This is the first one of
<v Speaker 3>the John Hughes movies that we've talked about that he directed.
<v Speaker 4>Right, And you know he directed this one intentionally. He
<v Speaker 4>made a deal with the studio essentially, yeah, you let
<v Speaker 4>me direct the one I really want and I'll direct
<v Speaker 4>this one, okay. And the one he really wanted to direct,
<v Speaker 4>The Breakfast Club, Oh wow, And they said, okay, listen,
<v Speaker 4>if you direct Weird Science, We'll let you do the
<v Speaker 4>Breakfast Club.
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's great. Yeah, because he was just it was
<v Speaker 3>just a comedy. He was a comedy guy, and Breakfast
<v Speaker 3>Club was so much more so dramatic, so impactful. What
<v Speaker 3>a great Oh my goodness.
<v Speaker 4>We're planning on covering that later this season.
<v Speaker 3>Yep. I'm excited to talk about Yeah, exactly.
<v Speaker 4>But I was going through so the John Hughes movies
<v Speaker 4>that I think we've covered so far, and correct me
<v Speaker 4>if I'm wrong. I know We've done Home Alone, which
<v Speaker 4>he wrote, right, We've done Vacation, Christmas Vacation, Christmas Vacation,
<v Speaker 4>which he wrote both of those. Yes, Vacation is where
<v Speaker 4>Anthony Michael Hall kind of breaks.
<v Speaker 3>In exactly the Hollywood. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I heard him talk about that though even though John
<v Speaker 4>Hughes wrote that script, Anthony Michael Hall did not meet
<v Speaker 4>him until after that until on the set of sixteen Candles.
<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, and I had always kind of thought, well, gosh,
<v Speaker 4>you know Hughes wrote it, there's Anthony Michael Hall, and
<v Speaker 4>that's where it began.
<v Speaker 3>I mean to listen to Anthony Michael Hall talk about
<v Speaker 3>their relationship. It was an amazing. Like we talked when
<v Speaker 3>we were talking about One Crazy Summer and Better Off Dead,
<v Speaker 3>we talked about that John Cusack before he did those movies,
<v Speaker 3>was one of the two sidekick you know, King of
<v Speaker 3>the Geek Farmer Ted had, Yeah, and the other one
<v Speaker 3>was in was in Real Genius. Did you see him
<v Speaker 3>another little cameo bit? I told you he has this
<v Speaker 3>had a tiny little cameo bit in One Crazy Summer
<v Speaker 3>and he had he has a tiny little cameo bit
<v Speaker 3>in Real Genius as well. Yeah, they're walking down the
<v Speaker 3>hall and doing stuff like I think it may have
<v Speaker 3>been at the party with the cosmetology students or whatever
<v Speaker 3>they are. The invitational is, yeah, but just one of
<v Speaker 3>those things where it's just like they're watching the girl
<v Speaker 3>walk by and I'm like, oh, there he is again.
<v Speaker 3>But all that to say, Anthony Michael Hall had developed
<v Speaker 3>such a relationship with John Hughes at that point that
<v Speaker 3>when they were auditioning the sidekicks, he said, why don't
<v Speaker 3>you pick these guys because they're going to be your friends.
<v Speaker 3>You pick them, And he was like, I get to pick.
<v Speaker 3>I mean we're talking about what he's like, sixteen seventeen
<v Speaker 3>year old kid, not even yeah, and he gets to
<v Speaker 3>he so he picked John Cusack, that's right. And the
<v Speaker 3>other dude whatever his name is, right, I can't remember,
<v Speaker 3>it's real smooth Cliff. Hey, I got something for you. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>And we'll get into casting here in a few minutes.
<v Speaker 3>But do you know who almost was hired to be
<v Speaker 3>Chris Knight in Real Genius? No, John Cusack? Wow, Well
<v Speaker 3>that would have been something.
<v Speaker 4>It's just, you know, it's just this pool of young
<v Speaker 4>actors just kind of moving around each other all the time.
<v Speaker 3>I know you were, and you were telling me stories
<v Speaker 3>about the actors that were hanging out with each other,
<v Speaker 3>of course on the set, but also because Back to
<v Speaker 3>the Future was being filmed at the same time, hanging
<v Speaker 3>out with those guys as well.
<v Speaker 4>Start off, So these are both universal movies. Yeah, both
<v Speaker 4>being filmed at the same time. So weird Science is
<v Speaker 4>being filmed right next to the studio where Back to
<v Speaker 4>the Future is being filmed, right, And I was listening
<v Speaker 4>to Judy Aronson talk about this, and she is the
<v Speaker 4>one who plays Hilly, she's one of the girls in
<v Speaker 4>the brunette, right, And she said, so they're right next
<v Speaker 4>to us. We were next to them we're all young,
<v Speaker 4>we're all hanging out, we're watching that movie be filmed.
<v Speaker 4>And she's like, I was just off camera when all
<v Speaker 4>this stuff was going on. I was watching them film.
<v Speaker 3>Back to the Future.
<v Speaker 4>So we wrapped up Weird Science and left. And she said,
<v Speaker 4>and to me, Back to the Future starred Eric Stoltz,
<v Speaker 4>because that's the way it was, and when I left,
<v Speaker 4>that's the way it had continued to be.
<v Speaker 3>And so she was like, what Michael J. Fox. Holy cow,
<v Speaker 3>when did that happen? You know?
<v Speaker 4>So anyway, she was saying that Eric Stultz was actually
<v Speaker 4>not the first Marty McFly right, And so I was like,
<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, wait, wait a minute, because.
<v Speaker 3>To me it was Eric. They went after Michael J.
<v Speaker 4>Fox, they hired Eric Stoltz, and then they replaced him
<v Speaker 4>with Michael J.
<v Speaker 3>Fox. Well, that's not totally true.
<v Speaker 4>So according to her, and I went online and I
<v Speaker 4>found some corroborating video of this. Yes, so they went
<v Speaker 4>after Michael J. Fox, they didn't get him. They hired C.
<v Speaker 4>Thomas Howell to be Marty.
<v Speaker 3>McFly soul man. Yeah, wow, yes.
<v Speaker 4>Well here's what happened. The movie Mask came out and
<v Speaker 4>Sid Sheinberg, who we've.
<v Speaker 3>Talked about in our Jaws episode.
<v Speaker 4>He is the head of Universal and he said, this
<v Speaker 4>kid who's starting in this Mask movie is the Bee's knees.
<v Speaker 3>We need to hire him.
<v Speaker 4>And so they fired Tommy Howell, brought in Eric Stole.
<v Speaker 4>Keep in mind, this is the same guy who said
<v Speaker 4>we need to not call this back to the future.
<v Speaker 4>We need to call it a spaceman from Pluto or whatever.
<v Speaker 4>It's a tragedy, yes, but Zamechas ultimately made the call
<v Speaker 4>Eric Stoltz is not working, get him out of here.
<v Speaker 3>Bringing Michael J. Fox and here we go crazy. Yeah. Well,
<v Speaker 3>and Illan Mitchell Smith had just been run. It's like
<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk. Well, okay, is it? I heard That's that's
<v Speaker 3>how they were Okay. I was just listening to Anthony
<v Speaker 3>Michael Hall in the interview and he called him Illan,
<v Speaker 3>like like you be ill who knows. We don't know him.
<v Speaker 3>His name is spelled I L A N. If you
<v Speaker 3>want an easy name to pronounce, pick a different name.
<v Speaker 3>We'll call it Mitchell Smith. Anyway, he had just been
<v Speaker 3>in a movie before Weird. He had just been in
<v Speaker 3>a movie before Weird Science with Eric Stoltz. He was
<v Speaker 3>in what was the name of that movie. It's called
<v Speaker 3>The Wildlife, The Wildlife. I was like, it's wild something. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you know else was in that movie, Chris Pin, Leah
<v Speaker 3>Tom those were those Those are the two Biggies. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I think that is a Cameron crow movie. It is, Yes,
<v Speaker 3>that was the other name I was thinking of. Cameron
<v Speaker 3>Crowe wrote that movie. And of course Chris Pinn would
<v Speaker 3>go on to do Footloose. Yes, and Kevin Bacon of
<v Speaker 3>course we talked about that in our Footloose episode. Go
<v Speaker 3>back and check out our Footloose episode and we did
<v Speaker 3>the movie and the soundtrack on that one as well.
<v Speaker 3>It was good. But going back to Val Kilmer, he
<v Speaker 3>had when he very first started into like career acting.
<v Speaker 3>He had been you know, acting since he was a
<v Speaker 3>little kid. But when he started in career acting, he
<v Speaker 3>was in a stage play called Slab Boys I think
<v Speaker 3>was the name of the show. Okay, and he had
<v Speaker 3>gotten the lead role and then they were like, oh wait,
<v Speaker 3>we can get Kevin Bacon, do you mind doing the
<v Speaker 3>second lead? And he was like, okay, I'll do the
<v Speaker 3>second lead. And they're like, oh wait, we got Sean Penn,
<v Speaker 3>do you mind doing the third. So he'd went from
<v Speaker 3>star of the show to butt of all of the
<v Speaker 3>jokes in this but his first like major acting gig
<v Speaker 3>was starring in this play with Sean Penn and Kevin Bacon.
<v Speaker 3>How about that? Yeah, well that's cool. I got a
<v Speaker 3>story for you. Okay, you're ready for this? Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 3>So in March of nineteen seventy five, McDonald's has this
<v Speaker 3>contest and it's just in California, okay, and they're going
<v Speaker 3>to be giving away stuff, big prizes, but it's it
<v Speaker 3>is literally a three week entry period, right, it's a
<v Speaker 3>real short entry window. But it's March third through March
<v Speaker 3>twenty third. And there are three students at cal Tech,
<v Speaker 3>Steve Klein, David Novakov, and Barry Megdahl. And they notice
<v Speaker 3>on the little they're reading the legal blueprint, you know
<v Speaker 3>the stuff there. They're reading the boilerplate stuff, and it
<v Speaker 3>says ter as often as you wish, no purchase necessary,
<v Speaker 3>no purchase necessary. And so they start thinking about it
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, well, what happens if we really just
<v Speaker 3>follow the letter of the law here. So they recruit
<v Speaker 3>about twenty three other friends from their dormitory, the Page
<v Speaker 3>House at Caltech and they go to I mean we're
<v Speaker 3>talking mid seventies big IBM mainframe computer. They programmed the
<v Speaker 3>computer to print out these sheets of entry forms for
<v Speaker 3>this contest. Because it wasn't like the you know, you
<v Speaker 3>had to have a particular form. You could make your own.
<v Speaker 3>And on the last day of the contest they got
<v Speaker 3>all the sheets, they went to a print shop, they
<v Speaker 3>cut them all up over On the last day of
<v Speaker 3>the contest, they and their twenty three friends went and
<v Speaker 3>stuffed ninety eight McDonald's box last day on the last day,
<v Speaker 3>with one point two million entries. Good for them, one
<v Speaker 3>point million entries. Now there were cash, prizes, gift certificates,
<v Speaker 3>euro groceries, and a dots and Z available as prizes, okay,
<v Speaker 3>but the total entry for the contest was something like
<v Speaker 3>three point four million, so they had a third of
<v Speaker 3>the entries, right. They ended up winning twenty percent of
<v Speaker 3>the prizes, including the groceries, the car and much of
<v Speaker 3>the cash and the gift certificates and stuff like that,
<v Speaker 3>which very similar line came from one of them. I'm
<v Speaker 3>not really sure how we had a third of the
<v Speaker 3>entries but only one a fifth of the prizes. I
<v Speaker 3>don't know how the math works out, but that was
<v Speaker 3>the inspiration for Laslow Hollyfield and his entry of the
<v Speaker 3>free doo Lay contest because and here's the rest of
<v Speaker 3>her loops all the way back around the Caltech students
<v Speaker 3>were inspired by a similar hoax act, prank, whatever you
<v Speaker 3>want to call it, from guys from Caltech from nineteen
<v Speaker 3>sixty nine who did it in a free delay contest.
<v Speaker 3>Really yep, So that is the inspiration for Laslow Hollyfield's
<v Speaker 3>machine of freeedolay entries. I love it, I love it.
<v Speaker 2>These are entries into the Freedom La sweep stakes. Don't purchase,
<v Speaker 2>necessarily enter as often as you want, so I am
<v Speaker 2>it's great. How many times welp?
<v Speaker 5>This batch makes it one million, six hundred and fifty thousand.
<v Speaker 5>I should win thirty two point six percent of the prizes,
<v Speaker 5>including the car.
<v Speaker 4>Weren't you telling me a legal type of story? Remember
<v Speaker 4>when PEPSI did some competition in the early.
<v Speaker 3>Ninety yesh I go, You could win a jet harrier
<v Speaker 3>Jet Harrier jet if you reached a certain amount of points.
<v Speaker 3>You like it, and it's million. It was supposed to be.
<v Speaker 3>I think it was supposed to be like a million points,
<v Speaker 3>but they just the guys for the ad team didn't
<v Speaker 3>put the right zero in there, so it was like
<v Speaker 3>one hundred thousand points. And yeah, some kid wanted to
<v Speaker 3>claim his Harrier jet. He entered enough to get the
<v Speaker 3>one hundred thousand points, and PEPSI said no. When there
<v Speaker 3>is a big old, ugly lot, there's a whole documentary
<v Speaker 3>on it. It's really quite good.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Okay, where do we want to start here?
<v Speaker 3>I would say, let's start with real genius.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, d Before you start talking about real genus,
<v Speaker 4>I just want you to know that compared to us,
<v Speaker 4>most people have the IQ of a carrot.
<v Speaker 3>We're different.
<v Speaker 2>Better, let's just pause, put that down. Let's just take
<v Speaker 2>a step back.
<v Speaker 3>No, I was wrong.
<v Speaker 5>Sorry, I take step forward, take a step back, step forward,
<v Speaker 5>and step back, and then we're tutching.
<v Speaker 2>We stop it. I'm serious, Okay, I'm serious too.
<v Speaker 3>All right, So we start with a guy named Neil
<v Speaker 3>Israel who he started off. He was raised in New
<v Speaker 3>York and was an assistant to Broadway producer and director
<v Speaker 3>George Abbott, who was a Pulitzer Prize winner, and he
<v Speaker 3>eventually made his way out to la where he become
<v Speaker 3>an executive. Became an executive at ABC and CBS, and
<v Speaker 3>he wrote and directed a little independent film called tunnel Vision.
<v Speaker 3>Tunnel Vision introduced are you Ready for This? Chevy Chase,
<v Speaker 3>Al Franken and John Candy. His next movie was a
<v Speaker 3>movie called Ringo, which starred Ringo Starr and George Harrison
<v Speaker 3>and Vincent Price, John Ritter and Carrie Fisher. Like I've
<v Speaker 3>never heard of either one of these movies, but I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>what this is like mid seventies, right, Like Carrie Fisher
<v Speaker 3>has just finished with Star Wars and she's in this
<v Speaker 3>guy's she's in this guy's movie. And then he starts
<v Speaker 3>writing with his writing partner for several other shows, a
<v Speaker 3>guy named Pat Proft. Now Pat Proft helped him write
<v Speaker 3>the original Police Acagement. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, So before you go any further, yes, Neil Israel,
<v Speaker 4>I believe is the guy when High Tower smashes into
<v Speaker 4>the back of the car.
<v Speaker 3>The guy gets out of the car.
<v Speaker 4>And says, you dumb idiot and sticks his head in
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, that's try.
<v Speaker 3>And then then Neil Israel went on to write and
<v Speaker 3>direct a movie called Bachelor Party, which introduced us to
<v Speaker 3>Tony Katy, Oh my goodness. And so he's just got
<v Speaker 3>this history of writing these movies that well they introduce
<v Speaker 3>us to people who become big mega stars. And then
<v Speaker 3>he writes this movie called Real Genius. Look, I want
<v Speaker 3>to start seeing a lot more of you in a lab.
<v Speaker 2>Fine, all game? Wait, thanks, Jerry.
<v Speaker 3>Try Now. Martha Coolidge gets the script and I think
<v Speaker 3>she turned it down the first time she saw it,
<v Speaker 3>and so it went through some major rewrites with a
<v Speaker 3>couple of script doctors that we've talked about before, a
<v Speaker 3>guy named lu Gance and you'll remember this name, babbylo Mandel.
<v Speaker 3>Remember babbylu Mandel. Yes, if you don't remember them, wrote
<v Speaker 3>night Shift splash spies like us. And when we talked
<v Speaker 3>about him, it was because they had written Multiplicity. So
<v Speaker 3>to go back and check out our Groundhog Day versus
<v Speaker 3>Multiplicity episode, fantastic episode. Yes, they doctored it up. Still
<v Speaker 3>wasn't quite good enough. So she got together. Martha Coolidge
<v Speaker 3>got together with a guy named PJ. His name was
<v Speaker 3>Peter at the time, but he he transitioned she oh
<v Speaker 3>to she in like two thousand and one, but anyway,
<v Speaker 3>back then he was Peter or she was Peter, and
<v Speaker 3>they worked on the script together to get it where
<v Speaker 3>it needed to be, and it was always going to
<v Speaker 3>be a revenge movie. But she didn't have the end.
<v Speaker 3>She didn't know what the end was going to be.
<v Speaker 3>And the end is maybe one of the most iconic
<v Speaker 3>parts of the movie, right, Like everybody, if you talk
<v Speaker 3>about that movie, they're going to be like, I wonder
<v Speaker 3>how they did this right? Right? And so it was
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember the guy's name, God forgive me, but
<v Speaker 3>he like helped design some of the Star Wars guys.
<v Speaker 3>He helped design the the DeLorean and Back to the Future,
<v Speaker 3>like he had done all of this amazing design work.
<v Speaker 3>And he was the one that suggested the popcorn destroying
<v Speaker 3>the house ending. Really, yes, that's fantastic, you know.
<v Speaker 4>Martha Coolidge got her movie start with the movie called
<v Speaker 4>Valley Girl, Yes, which introduced us to Nick Cage yep
<v Speaker 4>and Deborah Foreman.
<v Speaker 3>Who makes her lovely appearance in this movie. She shows
<v Speaker 3>up for seen a body like that before she's my daughter.
<v Speaker 3>I guess you have funny funny, right.
<v Speaker 4>But this movie was originally supposed to be more like
<v Speaker 4>along the lines of Revenge of the Nerds, kind of
<v Speaker 4>boobs and jokes and yeah, you know, revenge and that
<v Speaker 4>type of thing. Martha Coolidge was like, wait a minute, guys,
<v Speaker 4>let's brain this in. Let's make it smart. Let's make
<v Speaker 4>the nerds the heroes, and you know, let's make this
<v Speaker 4>a smart comedy. Rather than just take the cheap low road.
<v Speaker 3>She spent months researching laser technology, CIA policies and tactics,
<v Speaker 3>and she spent months interviewing Caltech students about what they
<v Speaker 3>did at cal Tech. You know, when he's spouting off
<v Speaker 3>some of the stuff and I can't possibly repeat it
<v Speaker 3>because science is not my bag, man, but he's spouting
<v Speaker 3>some of that stuff off, I had to pause the
<v Speaker 3>movie and I looked it up. It's accurate stuff. The
<v Speaker 3>stuff that they are saying is I mean you, is
<v Speaker 3>it accurate that you can destroy a house with popcorn? No?
<v Speaker 3>Probably not. But like the science that they're shooting out
<v Speaker 3>of their mouths that makes sound really complicated, is real, genuine.
<v Speaker 4>Size a gashous not chemical state?
<v Speaker 3>You know whatever? I understood. This is ice. This is
<v Speaker 3>what happens to water when it gets too cold. Right,
<v Speaker 3>This is kent. This is what happens when someone gets
<v Speaker 3>too sexually frustrated. That's so funny, right, This movie is
<v Speaker 3>very clever. It's very so good.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Val Kilmer's giving like this dry clever humor.
<v Speaker 3>He's dropping jokes.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he's looking at you deadpan.
<v Speaker 3>But he also will chuckle with you too.
<v Speaker 2>You know, what is that toy in your head?
<v Speaker 5>Because if I wear it anywhere else, it chase. I'm sorry,
<v Speaker 5>it's just that I didn't want you guys to think
<v Speaker 5>I was stuck. You know, no fun brain, no penis.
<v Speaker 2>Pardon me. I'm sorry. It's just an infantile response to authority.
<v Speaker 2>Yes you are Chris Knight, aren't you. I hope. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing his underwear. It's a joke.
<v Speaker 3>I get it.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I just can't help. But you guys are such
<v Speaker 2>fun yourself, try to be. Isn't that right, Mike?
<v Speaker 3>No, Yeah, they're like, ah, it's a joke. He's like,
<v Speaker 3>it's the perfect delivery. It really is. So here's here's
<v Speaker 3>something interesting. Like I was telling you, you know, I
<v Speaker 3>caught the beginning of the Vowel documentary and he he
<v Speaker 3>wanted to be an actor from the time he was
<v Speaker 3>a very little kid. His older brother brother Wesley Kilmer,
<v Speaker 3>was an aspiring film director, and he said his creativity
<v Speaker 3>was dwarfed by his creativity. Wow, super creative guy, and
<v Speaker 3>Val says he remembers the first time being on stage
<v Speaker 3>and making a group of people laugh, and he says,
<v Speaker 3>I want to do this for the rest of my life.
<v Speaker 3>And he ends up being the youngest person ever accepted
<v Speaker 3>into the Juilliard School of Acting. Before he goes, he
<v Speaker 3>has a dream, and his dream he is with his
<v Speaker 3>girlfriend and his girlfriend's mother, and his girlfriend's mother tells
<v Speaker 3>him that she is not afraid of death because at
<v Speaker 3>that point she will get to meet her creator. He
<v Speaker 3>is awakened from this dream to his other brother telling
<v Speaker 3>him that Wesley passed away the night before, had an
<v Speaker 3>epileptic seizure in their whirlpool and drought. And so he
<v Speaker 3>goes to Juilliard in this kind of despondent state. And
<v Speaker 3>Wesley was also an avid painter and illustrator, and so
<v Speaker 3>he put all of his artwork up in his dorm
<v Speaker 3>room walls. Right now. He ultimately gets the top secret,
<v Speaker 3>which is fantastic movie. I definitely think we need to
<v Speaker 3>cover that at some point. Sure, but he said it
<v Speaker 3>was just fluff. You know, this is Zucker Abraham's and
<v Speaker 3>Zucker parody piece. Right, Well, they came out after airplane,
<v Speaker 3>you know, yes, and so he kind of felt silly,
<v Speaker 3>but he said he whatever kind of work he was doing,
<v Speaker 3>he would try to find the truth behind it. He
<v Speaker 3>was a an actor's actor studied with with the best, right. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>meets his wife out there, he comes back and in
<v Speaker 3>the in the documentary they jump over with just the
<v Speaker 3>shortest little clip of Real Genius. They go right from
<v Speaker 3>Top Secret to Top Gun. But in that short little clip,
<v Speaker 3>if you're not watching, you won't you'll miss it. You
<v Speaker 3>remember what the dorm room looked like in Real Genius.
<v Speaker 3>Sure had the Einstein and all the others. The Saturn
<v Speaker 3>on the wall. Yeah, yeah, one of the pieces of
<v Speaker 3>artwork on the wall was his brother was Lee's drawings.
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's good. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, nice, nice moment.
<v Speaker 3>I don't get the impression that Val was very proud
<v Speaker 3>of Real Genius. Yeah, I mean he kind of he
<v Speaker 3>kind of blew by it, and he even didn't want
<v Speaker 3>to do Top Gun. I mean he but he said,
<v Speaker 3>I was you know, I had signed a contract and
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really have any choice.
<v Speaker 4>Tony Scott basically said, no, you're doing this.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he's and he admired Tony Scott a lot
<v Speaker 3>in that process, but he was he didn't expect it
<v Speaker 3>to be as big as it was, and he wasn't
<v Speaker 3>excited about doing it. But that's I mean, that's three
<v Speaker 3>for three. I mean, I love all of those movies,
<v Speaker 3>Top Secret, Real Genius and Top Gun. That he was
<v Speaker 3>just wrong about that movie. So yeah, that's right, but
<v Speaker 3>you gotta pay your dues. Whatever.
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember the last time we talked about a
<v Speaker 4>movie with Tony Scott and Val Killer or.
<v Speaker 3>Is it not Top Gun? Not Top Gun? True romance?
<v Speaker 3>Oh right? Because Val is the invisible Elvis. That's right,
<v Speaker 3>he's the mentor, the mentor because they couldn't call him,
<v Speaker 3>they couldn't him, and they never showed his face. It
<v Speaker 3>was just his voice and his hands and his jacket
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. Now
<v Speaker 3>Tony Scott and Val Kilmer are both gone. Yeah it's tragic, yep, tragic.
<v Speaker 2>If you want to be a party animal, you have
<v Speaker 2>to learn to live in the jungle. And now stop
<v Speaker 2>borring and go and get dressed.
<v Speaker 3>John Hughes got the idea for Weird Science from the
<v Speaker 3>comic book Weird Science, Called Weird Science, Call Weird Science. Now.
<v Speaker 3>You remember when we did Creep Show with Amanda Janic, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>compared it to Twilight Zone. We talked about Bill Gaines
<v Speaker 3>and his He had those comic books that would you know,
<v Speaker 3>you'd see the severed head or whatever, and they put
<v Speaker 3>the the the the controls and effect like the rating
<v Speaker 3>for comic books into effect because of some of his stuff. Right. Well,
<v Speaker 3>one of the guys that he worked with who was
<v Speaker 3>big on the ec comics that he did and big
<v Speaker 3>on Mad Magazine was a guy named al Feldstein. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>and back when they were doing ec comics and doing
<v Speaker 3>Weird Science, al Feldstein had a story that was called
<v Speaker 3>made Him Ad of the Future, Made of the Future,
<v Speaker 3>and this was the inspiration the first I've only seen
<v Speaker 3>the first frame, but it's a guy whose fiance is
<v Speaker 3>calling off the engagement and saying she's going to go
<v Speaker 3>marry some guy named Bob. And then it looks like
<v Speaker 3>he's got you know, he's got his Your bride is
<v Speaker 3>Frankenstein's bride ready to pull the plug on? You know?
<v Speaker 3>This is how dumb I am.
<v Speaker 4>It took me about ten times through a Weird Science
<v Speaker 4>to realize this is a retelling of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
<v Speaker 4>It is right, and you know, I know it. They
<v Speaker 4>even watched the movie and get their watch there's a
<v Speaker 4>live right. Well, when you're when you think you're watching
<v Speaker 4>a teenage sex comedy, yeah, you're not thinking Frankenstein, you know,
<v Speaker 4>So I think that's that's fantastic. John Hughes wrote the
<v Speaker 4>screenplay in two days.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said that, and Anthony Michael Hall. What I
<v Speaker 3>caught was they were in the middle of filming what
<v Speaker 3>was breakfast No, it couldn't have been breakfast club because
<v Speaker 3>it was before that. They must know it was breakfast Well,
<v Speaker 3>it was breakfast Club. Okay, so they're in the middle
<v Speaker 3>of filming breakfast Club and he hands Anthony Michael Hall
<v Speaker 3>thirty pages of a script. Yeah, and says I wrote
<v Speaker 3>this last night. You should you should take a look
<v Speaker 3>at this is our next project together. Yes, And that
<v Speaker 3>was the first thirty pages of Weird Science. And it's
<v Speaker 3>just absurd. Like if you look at John Hughes's other stuff,
<v Speaker 3>this is beyond the absurd meter, comparatively speaking, like even
<v Speaker 3>Uncle Buck and the crew, oh not even. It's just
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing as weird as weird science.
<v Speaker 4>Nothing makes sense, but you absolutely accept it. Right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>it's because we hooked up the computer, We bowled through
<v Speaker 4>the access denied thing, We went around this skull, we
<v Speaker 4>hooked up the doll. We put bras on our head
<v Speaker 4>and boom, you have a magic woman who appears out
<v Speaker 4>of nowhere.
<v Speaker 3>You have to put the bras on your head.
<v Speaker 4>So we mentioned that John Hughes came to Anthony Michael Hall.
<v Speaker 4>You know, John Hugh's a very loyal guy, right, He
<v Speaker 4>leans on people that he trusts. Right, So obviously Molly
<v Speaker 4>Ringwold has been a big part of John Hughes's catalog.
<v Speaker 3>Right.
<v Speaker 4>Mcaulay Culkin was a big part of his catalog as well.
<v Speaker 4>He had latched onto Anthony Michael Hall. Okay, now get this.
<v Speaker 4>So Anthony Michael Hall had been in vacation, he had
<v Speaker 4>been in sixteen Candles, he had been in Breakfast Club.
<v Speaker 3>We're in Science.
<v Speaker 4>He was supposed to be in Pretty in Pink Next
<v Speaker 4>and Ferris Bueller's Day Off. He was supposed to be
<v Speaker 4>Ferris Bueller. He was supposed to be Ferris Bueller.
<v Speaker 3>John Hughes wrote Ferris Bueller with Anthony Michael Hall in mind.
<v Speaker 4>That's right, So get this. Matthew Broderck did such a
<v Speaker 4>good job. I can't really say anything bad about that performance.
<v Speaker 4>I think that was probably a better fit.
<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing.
<v Speaker 4>Anthony Michael Hall decided he wanted to do something other
<v Speaker 4>than John Hughes comedies.
<v Speaker 3>Right, Which what was it he picked?
<v Speaker 4>He did out of the Bounds, right, Yeah, which I
<v Speaker 4>did that podcast with Jeff Johnson. It's on their patreon.
<v Speaker 4>If you go over to the film buy sign up
<v Speaker 4>for their patreon, go listen to the out of Bounds episode.
<v Speaker 4>It's like a fish out of water story where Anthony
<v Speaker 4>Michael Hall is a country boy. He goes to La
<v Speaker 4>Sunset Strip in eighty six, which is pretty fun, and
<v Speaker 4>makes terrible decisions, gets in trouble with the law, but
<v Speaker 4>he's kind of fighting for his own instance. It's a
<v Speaker 4>dramatic role. It's kind of more serious. There's gun play involved.
<v Speaker 4>It's not farmer ted. Yeah, and it's completely forgettable.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it is.
<v Speaker 4>And really from that point forward he struggles. He does
<v Speaker 4>Johnny Be Good, which was kind of a fun eighties movie,
<v Speaker 4>but it wasn't a big hit. Yeah, he does Edward
<v Speaker 4>Scissor Hands and then he vanishes for about ten or
<v Speaker 4>fifteen years.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he did. I don't remember when the
<v Speaker 3>Dead Zone TV series came out.
<v Speaker 4>Early two thousands, but that's when he really reappears. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>which that's a great show if you haven't seen that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh and by the way, SI, go check out
<v Speaker 3>our old Kujo versus Christine versus the Dead Zone matchup
<v Speaker 3>from I think it was October of twenty three. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I think that's right. Yeah, Okay, that's kind of a
<v Speaker 3>Halloween thing exactly.
<v Speaker 4>All right, d So let's get into casting. I got
<v Speaker 4>some stuff for you on the cast. These casts are
<v Speaker 4>amazing and have some crazy stories.
<v Speaker 3>Really for sure, they really do. Right, So let's let's go.
<v Speaker 3>We're right here at Weird Science and scho word Skill
<v Speaker 3>Word Science.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So we talked to Gout Anthony Michael Hall already
<v Speaker 4>elon Mitchell Smith.
<v Speaker 3>By the way, why are wearing bras on our heads?
<v Speaker 2>Ceremonial?
<v Speaker 3>He had just done The Wildlife.
<v Speaker 4>We talked about that with Rik Stoltz, Chris Pin.
<v Speaker 3>Leah Thompson got his start in ballet. Did you know this?
<v Speaker 4>I've read that I didn't see any video of that though.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, he was. He was had made it into
<v Speaker 3>got a scholarship to a very good ballet school. But
<v Speaker 3>that was where he got discovered. He played the younger
<v Speaker 3>version of Timothy Hutton in the movie Daniel, okay, which
<v Speaker 3>was based on the Book of Daniel. And then yes,
<v Speaker 3>it's biblical.
<v Speaker 4>Well, I cruised right past that I saw Daniel.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't recognize no, no, no, no, no, it's
<v Speaker 3>like there's a book called the Book of Daniel. Lions.
<v Speaker 3>Then when we talking about I mean, I haven't seen
<v Speaker 3>the movie. I don't know. Maybe it is biblical. I
<v Speaker 3>really I don't. I couldn't tell you, okay. But then yes,
<v Speaker 3>as we mentioned before, he was in The Wildlife, which
<v Speaker 3>is written by Cameron Cowe and had Chris Pin and
<v Speaker 3>Leah Thompson and Eric Stolton. And then they see him again.
<v Speaker 3>This is I mean, John Hughes and Anthony Michael Hall
<v Speaker 3>are tight and they see him in the Wildlife and
<v Speaker 3>they're like, let's get him as the other guy for
<v Speaker 3>this movie.
<v Speaker 4>Right by the way, I think he was paid about
<v Speaker 4>a third of the amount of Anthony Michael Hall.
<v Speaker 3>But that's okay. That kind of makes sense. Here's some
<v Speaker 3>tidbits on him. Okay, yeah, he acted. He did some
<v Speaker 3>other stuff obviously, but he quit acting in I think
<v Speaker 3>it was ninety one. Yes, he got his bachelor's degree
<v Speaker 3>in medieval studies. He got his master's degree in medieval studies,
<v Speaker 3>and then he got his PhD from Texas A and
<v Speaker 3>M and is now a professor of English, I believe,
<v Speaker 3>associate professor of English at cal State University in Long Beach.
<v Speaker 3>But this whole medieval thing. He is a tabletop gamer.
<v Speaker 3>He is a guy who like he not only plays it,
<v Speaker 3>but like he organizes the events. He's like written some
<v Speaker 3>major articles on tabletop gaming. So he's a huge dungeons
<v Speaker 3>and Dragons guy. That's interesting, which is perfect for the
<v Speaker 3>character that he played, right. He mean he admits that
<v Speaker 3>he's a big nerd.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've heard that he doesn't really want students to
<v Speaker 4>take pictures with him and gets annoyed that people are.
<v Speaker 3>Like, eh, why it's teaching my class? Right? You know?
<v Speaker 3>Well he did. He did do a brief cameo in
<v Speaker 3>The Goldberg. Yeah, in the episode Weird Science, where one
<v Speaker 3>of the kids is like, I want to do what
<v Speaker 3>they did in Weird science, and he's the science teacher going,
<v Speaker 3>you can't that's not I can't do it right?
<v Speaker 4>And he lied, and Adam Goldberg is like, why why
<v Speaker 4>did you lie? He's like, well, I had an older
<v Speaker 4>brother who was a buttead.
<v Speaker 3>Sir, in your expert scientific opinion, is it possible for
<v Speaker 3>me to weird science up a girlfriend?
<v Speaker 2>It was game over scientifically speaking.
<v Speaker 3>My teacher always took science seriously absolutely until he didn't.
<v Speaker 3>I knew it. Watch out, Kelly LeBrock, the taste. He's
<v Speaker 3>coming for you.
<v Speaker 2>Why would you lie like that? Between you and me?
<v Speaker 2>I have a butt lot of an older brother too.
<v Speaker 3>That's hilarious. So okay, the part of Lisa.
<v Speaker 2>So what would you little maniacs like to do? First?
<v Speaker 4>Which I found super interesting. They took the name from
<v Speaker 4>the Apple Lisa computer. Do you remember the Lisa way
<v Speaker 4>back at the beginning, Like Steve Jobs had a daughter
<v Speaker 4>named Lisa, I think, and he named that first one
<v Speaker 4>of those first Apple computers he.
<v Speaker 3>Called the Lisa.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, And that's where they get the character Lisa from
<v Speaker 4>Perfect Perfect Now Kelly LeBrock panting.
<v Speaker 3>Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. I still use panting conditioner.
<v Speaker 3>To this day because of Kelly Lebron. I am not lying.
<v Speaker 3>I have used panting conditions the last forty years because
<v Speaker 3>you don't, because you're beautiful. Thank you.
<v Speaker 4>But you know, on a serious note, that was an
<v Speaker 4>iconic commercial from the eighties. A lot of people girl
<v Speaker 4>kind of turned off by that.
<v Speaker 3>I think.
<v Speaker 4>I know some girls at my school were like that stupid.
<v Speaker 3>They didn't make it for them, I know. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>they may envy her, but they're going to go buy
<v Speaker 3>the stuff that is going to make them look like
<v Speaker 3>or make their hair look like her hair.
<v Speaker 4>Right, So I sent you a little tidbit this morning
<v Speaker 4>that you didn't know, and I didn't know until last night. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>there is a song, a prominent eighties song that is
<v Speaker 4>written about Kelly LeBrock.
<v Speaker 3>Blue my mind, bro blew my mind. Okay.
<v Speaker 4>That song is the Hollan Oates classic man Ere.
<v Speaker 3>What you Wow.
<v Speaker 4>I heard John Oates talk about this. He said they
<v Speaker 4>were at a club in.
<v Speaker 3>New York City. Uh huh.
<v Speaker 4>And it was one of those clubs where famous people
<v Speaker 4>hung out, actors, singer and blah blah blah, and Kelly
<v Speaker 4>LeBrock walked in the room, sucked all the oxygen out
<v Speaker 4>and everybody's like, way will they were?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, So I mean you've seen her, yes,
<v Speaker 3>and did an excellent job. Yeah. So she was born
<v Speaker 3>She's born in nineteen sixty and.
<v Speaker 4>That makes her twenty four to twenty five in this picture.
<v Speaker 3>Ish yes, and Elan Mitchell Smith was born in seventies seventy,
<v Speaker 3>like sixty nine. I think he was born in sixty nine.
<v Speaker 3>So in both of these movies, you have women in
<v Speaker 3>their mid twenties kissing deeply fifteen year old boy, it's
<v Speaker 3>like what I know.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and in both of these movies you have popular
<v Speaker 4>songs written about those women.
<v Speaker 3>That's wait a minute, there's a popular song on Weird Science. Really,
<v Speaker 3>I mean I real genius. Yes, Oh, I don't know
<v Speaker 3>this old tight Okay, get there, Yeah, all right, we're
<v Speaker 3>still talking casting on Weird Science's a little teaser, all right.
<v Speaker 4>So Kelly Imberg was originally hired. I think they went
<v Speaker 4>after Kelly Lebron. She said something along the lines of
<v Speaker 4>she's having too much fun riding horses in Spain because
<v Speaker 4>that's what beautiful people do, right, rough life, right, And
<v Speaker 4>so they brought in Kelly Imberg, who was a popular
<v Speaker 4>model in the eighties.
<v Speaker 3>I looked at her.
<v Speaker 4>She's pretty, but I don't recognize her. Okay, two days
<v Speaker 4>she gets the boot Creative Differences and they go after
<v Speaker 4>Kelly LeBrock again, say hey, listen, we had to fire this.
<v Speaker 3>We really want you. Can you come?
<v Speaker 4>So she comes and she takes the role of Lisa.
<v Speaker 3>She had just done the woman in Red. Oh right,
<v Speaker 3>Gene Wilder. Gene Wilder. Yeah. Can you name the song
<v Speaker 3>that was Oscar nominated? Not? The name of the song
<v Speaker 3>is not that one. It's it with Me and what
<v Speaker 3>is it? I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>It's the Jason Colvin non favorite I Just Called to
<v Speaker 4>Say I Love You, which against all odds by Phil Collins,
<v Speaker 4>which we talked about a couple of weeks ago.
<v Speaker 3>Right, go check out those episodes. All right.
<v Speaker 4>Do you know who almost got the job of Lisa
<v Speaker 4>before Kelly Emberg was hired.
<v Speaker 3>Christy Brinkley. No, that's a good guess. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>At that time, brace yourself. Robin Wright was almost hired
<v Speaker 4>as Lisa. Wow, what was she twenty?
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, she was a baby way Yeah. In eighty
<v Speaker 3>seven when Princess Break exactly, yeah, what and Demi Moore, Wow,
<v Speaker 3>that would have been a heck of a year for
<v Speaker 3>Demi Moore, seriously, because that was that she was in
<v Speaker 3>three from eighty five already, right.
<v Speaker 4>You got one crazy summer. Yeah, you had last night
<v Speaker 4>and you had sat Almo's Fire. Yeah, and she was
<v Speaker 4>getting ready to start melting the camera.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Still not Kelly LeBrock though, not that hot yet
<v Speaker 3>man smoking. All right, we got to talk about Bill Paxton, Yes,
<v Speaker 3>we do.
<v Speaker 2>How about a nice ceazy pork sandwich served in a
<v Speaker 2>dirty ash tray.
<v Speaker 4>This was kind of when I first became aware of him. Absolutely,
<v Speaker 4>he had had you know, he'd done a little bit
<v Speaker 4>like he was one of the punks that got killed
<v Speaker 4>at the very beginning of the Terminator movie, right, and
<v Speaker 4>you know he worked as a stage hand on Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>not only with the stars or whatever.
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, he was, he was. He was one of
<v Speaker 3>the right hand guys for James Cameron when James Cameron
<v Speaker 3>was making crappy b movies for guy what's his name,
<v Speaker 3>Roger Corman.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, he was like gluing big Mac boxes on the
<v Speaker 4>walls and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And so Bill Paxton had done just a few things
<v Speaker 4>here and there.
<v Speaker 3>He's hired.
<v Speaker 4>He comes and does weird science he had been hired
<v Speaker 4>by this time to be Hudson in Aliens.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but I heard Bill.
<v Speaker 4>Paxson talk about that he was nervous that James Cameron
<v Speaker 4>was gonna watch Weird Science and think, this guy's an idiot.
<v Speaker 3>What are we doing?
<v Speaker 4>He's not a soldier, So he was real nervous about
<v Speaker 4>Weird Science. Thought it was gonna costume his job in Aliens. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>but instead you get two fantastic Bill Paxon off the
<v Speaker 4>leash rolls here.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
<v Speaker 4>He's the funniest part of Weird Science.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh yes, oh yeah. That the gun and
<v Speaker 3>he wakes him up and he's got the gun. So
<v Speaker 3>the gun was made of plastic. Like I was like,
<v Speaker 3>he's hitting hard, right, Apparently the gun's made of plastic.
<v Speaker 3>But he but Anthony Michael Hall was like, we couldn't
<v Speaker 3>stop laughing because he was playing. So he was so
<v Speaker 3>freaking funny.
<v Speaker 4>I cracked up last night. I mean everything about it.
<v Speaker 4>I mean whacking them on the head, pushing her nose off,
<v Speaker 4>and then he goes in the other room and he
<v Speaker 4>blows the doorknob off with his shotgun and it scares
<v Speaker 4>the heck out of there.
<v Speaker 3>They wake right up. So Bill Paxton.
<v Speaker 4>On fire in this absolutely, by the way, I told
<v Speaker 4>you right before we started. I read the guy in
<v Speaker 4>charge of the special effect of the chet blob, right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the doll the blob, yes, which.
<v Speaker 4>Originally they were gonna put Bill Paxton in and and
<v Speaker 4>he was gonna kind of puppet it, but it just
<v Speaker 4>didn't work, and so they had him like voice of
<v Speaker 4>offscreen whatever. So the guy who was in charge of
<v Speaker 4>that effect said, for they struggled with it for a while,
<v Speaker 4>like initially it looked too much like job of the
<v Speaker 4>Hut and they weren't real happy with that. And then
<v Speaker 4>he said, they went to a different design and ultimately
<v Speaker 4>it just wasn't funny. But he said it all flipped
<v Speaker 4>when they added the Chet's crew cut to the blob.
<v Speaker 3>Would you please turn me back to normal? Please.
<v Speaker 4>I haven't done anything to you.
<v Speaker 3>No, but you've done plenty to your brother, like what, well,
<v Speaker 3>let me see.
<v Speaker 2>You've nagged him, harassed him, suppressed him, kept him in
<v Speaker 2>fear of you, extorted money from him.
<v Speaker 3>It's done out of love.
<v Speaker 1>Just for that, I.
<v Speaker 2>Ought to give you a set of elephant bulls.
<v Speaker 3>That's perfect. And I was like, that's funny. That's all
<v Speaker 3>you need, right, you just need that one symbolic little thing. Yes,
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's awesome.
<v Speaker 4>Uh okay, So a couple of the girls I want
<v Speaker 4>to talk about real quick. Suzanne Snyder deb she's the Blobe.
<v Speaker 3>She's been in a few things. Yeah, but she's always
<v Speaker 3>just kind of that girl that she never She's very pretty.
<v Speaker 3>I always expected her to be more, but she had
<v Speaker 3>been in like family Ties.
<v Speaker 4>She's like killer clowns from outer space. But there is
<v Speaker 4>kind of a connection to another movie in eighty six,
<v Speaker 4>which I've done with Jeff Johnson. Go over to the
<v Speaker 4>Film by podcast check them out. But Suzanne Snyder and
<v Speaker 4>the girl who plays Sue the perfume girl, perfume girl, either,
<v Speaker 4>guys have got beat up at the homecoming dance.
<v Speaker 3>Right.
<v Speaker 4>They were in a movie called Night of the Creeps.
<v Speaker 3>That's right, I remember. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>By the way, Jason Lively plays the lead role in
<v Speaker 4>Night of the Creeps. He replaced Anthony Michael Hall in
<v Speaker 4>European Vacation.
<v Speaker 3>Oh he's rusty. Yeah, he's the new Rusty. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And Anthony Michael Hall passed on European Vacation to do
<v Speaker 4>weird science.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but here's the interesting part. The girl who was
<v Speaker 3>originally supposed to be Audrey.
<v Speaker 4>They were going to bring her back, but when Anthony
<v Speaker 4>Michael Hall didn't return, they were like, well, let's just
<v Speaker 4>get two new people. So she lost her job because
<v Speaker 4>Anthony Michael Hall didn't come back. Yeah, okay, I want
<v Speaker 4>to talk about Judy Aronson for a second.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>First of all, she's about sixty years old now and
<v Speaker 4>still a smoke show.
<v Speaker 3>Really, oh man?
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So she had been in Friday the Thirteenth Part seven.
<v Speaker 4>She actually has kind of a cool little role cameo
<v Speaker 4>role in Kiss Kiss Bang.
<v Speaker 3>Bang, Yes, which also has Valkilmer in it, which that's
<v Speaker 3>why has Robert Downey Junior.
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's why she got the role is because she
<v Speaker 4>had played Robert Downey Junior's girlfriend in Your Science There
<v Speaker 4>you go, okay, and there was that connection.
<v Speaker 3>She walked up to him and talked to him in
<v Speaker 3>kis Kiss Bank Bank.
<v Speaker 4>Robert Downey Junior, Yes, is in this movie.
<v Speaker 3>He plays Ian. His character's name is Ian. Okay. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>He talked about how at this time in his career
<v Speaker 4>he's still playing the best friend. He's still he's not
<v Speaker 4>leading role material. He is definitely way far from Tony Stark.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, he's way far from less than zero
<v Speaker 3>at this point, even though it's just a few years away.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so, I mean he's playing the funny sidekick best.
<v Speaker 3>Friend Roles right by the way. He and Anthony Michael
<v Speaker 3>Hall are like true blue friends, like been friends for
<v Speaker 3>it makes sense years now.
<v Speaker 4>Anthony Michael Hall is the godfather of one of Robert
<v Speaker 4>Downey Junior's daughters, and they also if you remember, Anthony
<v Speaker 4>Michael Hall and Robert Downey Junior were cast members of
<v Speaker 4>Saturday Night Live.
<v Speaker 3>That's right, for one week season. Yeah, that was the
<v Speaker 3>last of the non Lauren Michael seasons. And at the
<v Speaker 3>end of that season, he grabbed John Lovett's and pulled
<v Speaker 3>him out of the burning building where the rest of
<v Speaker 3>the cast was supposed to have ferished. That's how bad
<v Speaker 3>Saturday Night Live had gotten at that game, Calley Robert
<v Speaker 3>Rustler plays Max. Huh call him mad Max.
<v Speaker 4>This is his first acting role. In fact, his first
<v Speaker 4>scene was dropping the slushie at the mall.
<v Speaker 3>That's great scene, he.
<v Speaker 4>Said, about thirty seconds before film was rolling. They made
<v Speaker 4>up that fake little handshake. Nice and he and Robert
<v Speaker 4>Downey Junior were friends from that. His next role he
<v Speaker 4>played like one of the main people in Nightmare and
<v Speaker 4>Elm Street Part two.
<v Speaker 3>Robert Downey Junior drove him to that audition. That's great,
<v Speaker 3>pretty cool.
<v Speaker 4>Just a couple more people I want to mention real quick. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>you have Vernon Wells, who plays the lead biker that
<v Speaker 4>destroys Gary and White's house.
<v Speaker 3>So Anthony Michael Hall said, it's a weekend, John Hughes
<v Speaker 3>and I are watching Matt Max and he said, we're
<v Speaker 3>gonna get that guy to be in the movie. And
<v Speaker 3>that's what happened. Wow.
<v Speaker 4>And he looks exactly like he does and it's the
<v Speaker 4>same character. They don't it's a different name, but it
<v Speaker 4>looks exactly the same.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, And I don't know who the metal face guys
<v Speaker 3>guy is, but the bald guys, the guy from the
<v Speaker 3>Hills Have Eyes. Keep this just.
<v Speaker 4>So that the guy with the metal face, Yeah, he's
<v Speaker 4>a stunt man. Okay, in fact, he's a big guy,
<v Speaker 4>so he always does like big stunts. Yeah right, But
<v Speaker 4>Michael berryman, he's the bald headed guy from the Hills
<v Speaker 4>Have Eyes. Yes, he plays the principal in the Motley
<v Speaker 4>Cruz smoking in the Boys droops.
<v Speaker 3>He's got the ridiculous that's right.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but Vernon Wells, the head biker. Yeah, he plays
<v Speaker 4>a bad guy in a movie we're getting ready to
<v Speaker 4>talk about. He's the bad guy in Commando. Yeah, I'm anxious.
<v Speaker 3>You still haven't watched it yet. I still haven't seen
<v Speaker 3>it yet. I have not watched Commando. I have not
<v Speaker 3>watched Rambo. Everybody be sure and hit that subscribe button
<v Speaker 3>so that you will be here when I tell you
<v Speaker 3>about losing my Rambo Commando Virginity.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, I just want to touch on John Capelos
<v Speaker 4>was in this for just a few minutes.
<v Speaker 3>He's the owner the of the bar. Okay, he was
<v Speaker 3>the janitor in Breakfast Club. Oh, the Malacca guy. I
<v Speaker 3>don't know what to tell you. She's in the Malaccas. Yes,
<v Speaker 3>they improv that whole scene like they had it. They
<v Speaker 3>had it kind of sketched out, but the rest of
<v Speaker 3>it was just improv and it is. It's hysterical. It's
<v Speaker 3>it's top top of I would say, top three scenes
<v Speaker 3>in that movie. Oh, it's so funny. Yes, And the
<v Speaker 3>other top scene in the movie is whenever she's talking
<v Speaker 3>to his parents. Oh my gosh, it's so funny. Oh,
<v Speaker 3>it's great. She need him in the nuts and call
<v Speaker 3>him which they threw that word around a little bit
<v Speaker 3>in the family jewels. Yeah, give it the keys.
<v Speaker 4>How do you know good so Chino Fats Williams. You
<v Speaker 4>know him by his voice?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he plays Fats. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And I just want to drop a quick name on you,
<v Speaker 4>Kim Mahlen, Does that name anything to you? Do you
<v Speaker 4>remember when the piano gets sucked out of the chimney and.
<v Speaker 3>Well, sure, And that's a memorable scene for anybody who
<v Speaker 3>is ten eleven in nineteen eighty kind of pose it.
<v Speaker 4>And really kind of focus in to see anything.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, having just watched it, I was I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>she's less nude than I thought she was. She's she's
<v Speaker 3>got her bron panties on when she's holding on, but
<v Speaker 3>as she gets sucked out, she no longer has the
<v Speaker 3>bra on because John Hughes.
<v Speaker 4>Well, when you have the Playmate of the Month from
<v Speaker 4>May of nineteen eighty.
<v Speaker 3>Two, she's an excellent piano player.
<v Speaker 4>When you've got somebody of that caliber, you've got it.
<v Speaker 3>Don't you have to? Well, obligations, I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember the last time we talked about a
<v Speaker 4>playmate from nineteen eighty two, Marianne Gravett who was in
<v Speaker 4>the lay It Down video which was in our Best
<v Speaker 4>of eighty five. Oh wow, she was in the rat
<v Speaker 4>video lay It Down. Okay, all right, that does it
<v Speaker 4>for cast for Weird Science.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, guys, that is going to be the end of
<v Speaker 3>part one of Weird Science Versus Real Genius. Come back
<v Speaker 3>next week for part two. We will talk about casting
<v Speaker 3>for Real Genius. We will tell you about all the
<v Speaker 3>exciting tidbits. We'll talk about the cool songs and music
<v Speaker 3>that we're involved in these movies, and we will give
<v Speaker 3>you our final judgment on which of these two nineteen
<v Speaker 3>eighty five Nerd Hero movies are the best. So you guys,
<v Speaker 3>never pretending like it's nineteen eighty five and I'm drinking
<v Speaker 3>a coke. I don't drink these on the regular. But
<v Speaker 3>this is I notice that, and this is says Sis.
<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm Sis today and I'm okay,