Disney Jumps on Earnings; Border Deal Dies in Senate
On today's podcast:
1) Walt Disney Co. is acquiring a $1.5 billion equity stake in Fortnite maker Epic Games Inc. as part of a collaboration involving Disney properties like Star Wars, Marvel and Avatar, the companies said Wednesday.
2) The Senate delivered a death blow to efforts to impose new border restrictions, blocking a carefully negotiated bipartisan compromise after former president Donald Trump and House Republican leaders denounced the deal.
3) Former Barclays Plc Chief Executive Officer Jes Staley has long maintained that he cut off his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein once he became boss of the UK bank. Legal documents seen by Bloomberg News claim that he had indirect contact with the late pedophile financier for years after that.
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Good morning. 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.920 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Garen Moscow. Here are the 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:07.440 stories we're following today. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.760 Shares of Disney are jumping this morning, up more than 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.440 six percent. That follows the company's latest earnings report, and 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.680 we get the latest with Bloomberg's John Tucker, John. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:22.200 And Nathan Disney reporting better than expended earnings and issuing 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:25.400 an upbeat profit outlook thanks to cost cutting and the 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.360 theme parks. Profit this year will Brian's at least twenty percent. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.480 Now the revenue did fall short of estimates, they said 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.080 the streaming business should still turn a profit in the 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.440 fourth quarter. What shareholders really like is a fifty percent 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.120 boost to the dividend plus a stock buyback. And there's more. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.199 CEO Bob Biker announcing they're acquiring a one and a 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:48.199 half billion dollar equity stake in Fortnite maker Epic Games. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.879 Our new relationship with Epic Games will create a transformational 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.760 games and the entertainment universe that integrates Disney's world class 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.360 storytelling into epics cultural phenomenon. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.920 Fortnite with the a Little Launch shop and play with 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:06.080 Disney characters within the Fortnight game. The deal also involves 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.120 new titles in a collaboration with the company's theme parks. 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.200 John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:12.360 Very, John, thanks well. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.800 Shares in shipping Giant mayre scare the worst performer on 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.800 the Eurostark six hundred. On a busy morning for earnings 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:20.440 in Europe, and we go to London and get the 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:25.040 latest from Bloomberg at daybreak, Europe anchor Caroline Hemgar, Caroline. 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.880 Karen Nathan, Good morning. Mrsk's CEO, Vincent Clerk tells Bloomberg 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.240 that the threat to red sea shipping hasn't peaked yet, 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.560 but the Danish shipping Giant expects higher freight rates to 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:39.240 disappear later this year and renewed gloom for the industry, 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.920 hence the stock drop. A better story for payment processor 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.280 Adjin shares surging thanks to higher revenue and, according to 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:50.080 the co CEO, more US customers trusting it. Somewhere in 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:54.600 the middle frostwa Henri Pinots Curring, owner of Gucci. Pino 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.000 calls twenty twenty three a trying year, but investors conclude 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:02.160 Gucci's results were better and fared in London. Caroline Hepgar 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:03.320 Bloomberg Radio. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.760 Right, Caroline, thank you. We stay in London now for 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:10.040 a Bloomberg News exclusive. Former Barclay's CEO Jess Staley has 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.120 long maintained he cut off his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.360 once he became boss of the UK bank, but legal 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:20.280 documents seen by Bloomberg claimed Staley had indirect contact with 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.919 the late pedophile financier for years after that. We get 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.080 the details from Bloomberg's Chris Pitt. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.679 According to documents that formed part of a now settled 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:34.680 US virgin Isle's lawsuit against Jess Staley's former employer, JP Morgan, 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.400 and intermediary was used by the two men to stay 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:42.520 in touch. The filings contradict what Staley told the Barclays 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:47.680 board about his relationship with Epstein. It also contradicts a 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:52.519 UK regulatory probe that found no evidence of contact between 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:57.960 the two men. After October of twenty fifteen, representatives for 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.800 Jess Staley and JP Morgan didn't respond to requests for 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:06.360 comment on the claims. Spokespeople for Barclays and the FCA 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:11.120 also declined to comment. In London, Chris Pitt Bloomberg Radio. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.840 All right, Chris, thanks now, turning to politics back home, 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.360 Senate Republicans delivered a death blow to efforts to secure 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.760 the border, with Mexico blocking it by Purtison compromise. After 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.320 Donald Trump announced the deal, Bloomberg's Amy Morris has more 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:25.119 from Washington. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.040 The forty nine to fifty Senate vote virtually guarantees Congress 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.800 will not pass any broad immigration nor border legislation before 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.000 the November presidential election. It leaves no clear path for 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.240 new US military assistance to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. Republican 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.040 Senator James Langford helped negotiate the deal and said his 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:44.920 political career was threatened. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.960 That told me flat out, if you try to move 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:52.120 a bill that solves the border crisis during this presidential year, 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.800 I will do whatever I can to destroy you, because 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.400 I do not want you to solve this during the 0:03:58.400 --> 0:03:59.200 presidential election. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.320 The Senate will try again today to move the bill 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:05.520 forward without border provisions. In Washington, Amy Morris Bloomberg Radio. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:06.320 Look, Amy, thank you. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.040 Now, let's get to the latest from the Middle East. 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.000 The US says it has taken out the leader of 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.280 the Iron backed militia that killed three American soldiers last week. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.120 The Pentagon says the commander of the group, katab Has Belah, 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.520 was killed in a drone strike in Baghdad. Meanwhile, Secretary 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.479 of State Anthony Blinken is trying to brok or a 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.560 cease fire deal between Israel and Hamas, but Israel's position 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.679 is hardening. Bloomberg's Ed Baxter has the latest. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.680 This comes as Prime Minister Benjaminett Yahoo has summarily rejected 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.680 the Hamas proposal. Blencoln says the Hamas response does have 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.000 some non starters, but he will continue working on a plan, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.760 he says, and won't give up. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.120 Our focus today is on all of the diplomacy needed 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:48.560 to bring it about, including again getting ideas, getting proposals 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:54.000 from all concerned, and putting those together in a credible 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.040 and clear plan. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.880 B Lincoln says getting the hostages out as a very 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.719 very high priority. Ad Baxter Bloomberg. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.919 Radio, all right, Ed, thanks well. Turning to the economy, 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.039 now more clues the Fed is in no rush to 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.880 cut interest rates. Richmond Fed President Thomas Barkin says, it 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:12.239 makes sense to be patient. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.000 I'm very supportive of being patient, you know, to get 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.040 to where we need to get. I see at this 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.599 point the trade off, which is you know, coming into 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.360 better balance, is still being in favor of continuing to 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:25.600 work on inflation. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.640 And Richmond FED President Thomas Barkin and central bankers have 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.960 left interest rates unchanged since July. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.599 And in Asia, Karen, China's consumer prices fell last month 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.520 at their fastest paced since the global financial crisis. The 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.280 consumer price index for China dropped eight tenths of one 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.040 percent in January from a year ago. That's the weakest 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.960 since September of two thousand and nine and worse than 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:51.160 economists expectations for a half percent decline. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:53.680 And it's time now for a look at some of 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.839 the other stories making news around the world. For that, 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.480 we're joined by Bloomberg's Amy Morris Amy, good morning, Good. 0:05:59.240 --> 0:05:59.839 Morning, Karen. 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.640 The Supreme Court will be hearing a challenge this morning 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.560 that could determine if Donald Trump will be removed from 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:09.560 the presidential ballot in some states. Bloomberg's Nancy Lyons. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:14.320 Reports Colorado says the Fourteenth Amendment's insurrectionist clause renders former 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.240 President Trump ineligible to run for president due to his 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.520 connections to the January sixth assault in the Capitol. Courts 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.760 in ten other states have ruled the clause does not 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.839 apply to Trump. The Supreme Court will need to determine 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.400 if the clause can be invoked in the absence of 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.960 a court conviction or congressional action. It will also consider 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.240 whether the clause applies to the presidency and whether January 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.640 sixth was an insurrection in which Trump participated. Ahead of 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.360 the arguments, the chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Senator 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.839 Dick Durbin, has asked Justice Clarence Thomas to recuse himself. 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.240 In Washington, Nancy lyons Bloomberg Gradient. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.520 The search continues for five missing Marines in San Diego 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.480 County after a helicopter crash Tuesday night. Crews have found 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.760 the helicopter wreckage, but no sign of the marines. CalFire 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.000 Captain Mike Cornett a remote. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.880 Area the Cleveland National Forest. There's rugged terrain out here. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.000 There's lots of rocks, there's truck trails that go through 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.040 the area, but the mud and the snow, it can 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:10.480 become treacherous to travel. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.480 The Superstallion helicopter was part of the third Marine Aircraft 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.720 Wing and was going from Creech Air Force Base near 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.240 Vegas to Marine Corps Air Station Miramar in San Diego. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.880 The Biden Administration is working with the top US artificial 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:27.320 intelligence companies to craft federal standards on artificial intelligence to 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:31.760 ensure its use safely and responsibly. Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:36.280 says Apple, Amazon, OpenAI, Microsoft Meta and others will be 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.720 working with the National Institute of Standards and Technology, along 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.800 with civil society groups, academics, and state and local government 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:48.040 officials to establish AI safety standards. Scientists at Stanford University 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.600 are working on a blood test to potentially save millions 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.640 of lives by detecting cancer much earlier than before. They 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.520 say the samples are far larger than what Theeronos was 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.720 doing before the company tanked, and insist they are able 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.840 to show results. The CDC is warning about the rise 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.640 in measles infections in the US. 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You can listen and subscribe to Bloomberg News 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:41.280 Now on the Bloomberg Business app, Bloomberg dot Com plus apples, Spotify, 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:48.319 and anywhere else you get your podcasts. Time now for 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.200 the Bloomberg Sports Update. Here's John stash Hour John Karen. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.559 The hottest team with the NBA the Cleveland Cabelaers. They 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.880 lost on New Year's Days. Since then, they're fifteen and one. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.240 They got forty points of Donovan Mitchell and one one 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.200 fourteen to one oh six at Washington. The Cavs have 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.480 moved into second place in the East. Then there are 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.960 the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, who are going in the 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.920 opposite direction, struggling without their star center Joe Elmbed, who 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.960 could be out another month with the knee injury. Six 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.120 Ers have lost seven to last eight. They lost at 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.280 home to Golden State one twenty seven to one oh 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.160 four Celtics thirty ninth winn of the season. They're twenty 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.360 four and three at home thirty one points for Christaps 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.320 Porzingis celtsbyt Atlanta one twenty five to one seventeen. They 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:31.360 also acquired a player, getting big man Xavier Tillman from Memphis. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.920 The NBA trade deadline three Eastern today. Big names not 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:39.040 expected to be moved, but there certainly will be some movement. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.800 College hoops Duke by eighteen over Notre Dame, Auburn by 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:47.079 eighteen over Alabama. Tennessee bleue out LSU by twenty one upset. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:51.760 Wisconsin lost at Michigan seventy two to sixty eight. Nick Saban, 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.840 retired as Alabama football coach, will work for ESPN. He'll 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.120 be part of the College Game Day show. He'll also 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.120 work on the NFL Draft. Else Cowboys looking for a 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:05.560 defensive cordator. They've already interviewed Ron Rivera, just fired as 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.000 the head coach in Washington. Also Mike Zimmer, the former 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.440 head coach in Minnesota. The latest interview for the job 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.880 Rex Ryan, who hasn't had an NFL coaching job since 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:17.360 twenty sixteen, when he's the head coach in Buffalo. Before that, 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:18.600 the head coach of the Jets. 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.080 He's been working for ESPN. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.400 Johns Dashawer Bloomberg Sports. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.359 From coast to coast from New York to San Francisco, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:32.800 Boston to Washington, DC nationwide on SIRISXAM, the Bloomberg Business 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.600 app in Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:38.199 Good morning. 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.839 I'm Nathan Hager here now with a closer look at 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.480 the biggest earning story of the morning. We continue to 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:47.120 watch shares of the Walt Disney Company. The entertainment giant 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.040 reported better than expected results and an upbeat out look 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.439 for the full year. Cost cuts and booming business at 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.040 Disney theme parks are getting a lot of the credit 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.120 for this, but for more on These results were joined 0:10:58.120 --> 0:10:59.880 by Bloomberg's critty goop. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.520 Yeah, pretty would you call this a blowout quarter? 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:03.960 Is it a turnaround quarter? 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.160 What do you make of these numbers? 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.520 It's definitely a turnour around quarter. It's a pivot, if 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.320 you will. For the Disney story. Look, let me think 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.480 about Disney. We think about it from a kind of 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.880 tech perspective, a streaming perspective that doesn't start contrast to 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.319 what Disney's core business actually has been historically, which is 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.240 its international parks business. This is where their profit get 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:27.040 this rows by four times, sales increasing thirty five percent 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:28.680 year over years. So it looks like a lot of 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.760 more visitors and attendance when it comes to some of 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.000 their Disney parks, which again is not really the strategy 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.040 that they've been leaning into. They've really been leaning into 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.040 the media business, the Disney streaming business as well. When 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.880 you look at the subscriber count, that streaming service fell 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.360 to about one hundred and forty nine point six million 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.080 subscribers in the quarter of the projections for about one 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.000 hundred and fifty one point two million, So you can 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.840 see that those numbers coming in just a little bit softer. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.920 But the forecast here is what really matters. That's what 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.960 investors are responding to Disney saying their profit it's going 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.720 to rise twenty percent, bringing up to about four dollars 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.199 and sixty cents to share. The estimate was four dollars 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.360 and twenty seven cents. If that wasn't enough to sweeten 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.160 the pot, they're also raising their dividend by fifty percent 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.520 and approving a three billion dollar stock buy back program. 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.840 All of this on the back of some pretty other 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.360 hefty deals that they've made. They've talked about this partnership 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.319 that was announced a couple of days ago, bundling ESPN 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:25.720 content with programming from Fox and Warner Brothers Discovery creating 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.559 an all new sports streaming service. So again, this is 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.920 something that Bob Eiger had warned about several quarters ago, 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.320 really watching for what they could do with their Hulu 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.760 business and their ESPN business, and it looks like we've 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:36.640 gotten those answers. 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.920 And with all those answers, Kritty, that raises the question 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.120 of whether all this is going to be enough to 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.800 fend off a lot of the pressure we've seen going 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.640 into these earnings from activist investors. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.600 Yeah, and Nelson Pelts has not made Bob Aiger's life 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.840 any easier at all when it comes to them the 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.040 activist pressures. But again, this it all comes with the 0:12:56.160 --> 0:13:00.280 territory of kind of trying out these new businesses. Now, 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.120 it looks like with some of the board seats here 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.040 for now and for the temp for the foreseeable future, 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:06.960 perhaps they can fend it off. But they really have 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.400 to deliver on some of these new strategies. The fact 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.840 that they are again doubling down on their streaming business, 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.480 a sports streaming business, at a time when their Disney 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.440 Plus streaming service is already coming in soft is a 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.719 pretty big deal. But their forecasts are so rosy now 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.520 they just have to execute on it. And remember this 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.320 is also coming with a pretty big steak that Disney 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.040 is taking now in gaming one point five billion dollars 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.760 to use me in Fortnite maker Epic Games. This is 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.840 a company that Disney had had to kind of go 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.800 to court, Apple had had to go to court for 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.600 as well. The fact that Disney is now taking a 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.480 steak in it is a pretty big deal. 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.920 Yeah, really interesting to hear that, coming, particularly after that 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.240 announcement on the sports streaming service, This one and a 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.960 half billion dollar steak in Epic Games. I'm sure that 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.080 peaked a lot of your interests given your background in 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.240 video game coverage in the past. What do you make 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.079 of this strategy of, you know, trying to lean even 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.640 more in tech when they've had so many struggles, at 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.000 least in the last couple of quarters on their more 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:06.559 traditional media business. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:08.360 Well, I mean it speaks to them branching out for 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.480 our international audience that's listening to this. Nathan is referring 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.160 to the fact that I used to cover video games 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.199 as my very first speed at Bloomberg. The stocks of 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.280 it at least and what I learned from that is 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.520 that this is a growing business that has recently taken 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.360 on a lot of regulatory pressure, but it's one that 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.160 is a crowded space when you talk about some big games. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.760 So when you see a game like Fortnite, for example, 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.280 really excelling, it makes it a very attractive acquisition target. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.640 And that's exactly where Disney comes in here with that 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.600 one point five billion dollar steak. Because Fortnite has turned 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.520 out to be such a money maker for epic games, 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.760 Disney wants in on it. In terms of its broader strategy, 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.080 it's quite clear that Disney is doing what Disney hasn't 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:50.120 done historically, which is really diversify. They're talking about sports streaming, 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.920 they're talking about their Disney Services streaming, They're actually making 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.240 more money on their parks business, and now they're looking 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.760 at gaming as well. Not to mention Nathan, I can't 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.760 believe gone this far and not discussed Taylor's With's movie, 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:04.520 concert movie or whatever is hitting Disney Services. Mowana sequel 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.160 is coming out this year. The Taylor Swift story in 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.440 itself adds a lot of value to Disney. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:14.080 Interesting. So what do you make of the track that 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.960 bob Iger is painting here the path ahead for the 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.200 rest of this year and beyond. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.720 Well, look, he has just recently been reinstated. The history, 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.360 the management history matters here because Bob Iger had an 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.520 initial stint at the company and then was had I 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.760 left the company, and then is now coming back. Because 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:34.880 you start to see this pressure that he needs to 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.800 put Disney's balance sheet back on track. It kind of 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.239 seems like he's doing this, But Bob Iger's reputation historically 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.880 has been one of big moves, one where he takes 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.480 these kind of shots in the dark and says, guys 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.520 have a little bit of faith in me, and this 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.920 is what he does. 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