#425 - Randy Houser on Getting Dropped From His First Record Deal + The Moment He Knew ‘How Country Feels’ Was Going to Be A Smash + What Leonardo DiCaprio Said to Him on The Set of ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I did when I moved to Nashville is I didn't play live with a band here for like four or five years. I just refused because I was so scared that I would end up in another cover band here.

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Speaker 2: Episode four twenty five with Randy Hauser. I've known Randy for ten years, but I haven't, like, no, known Randy like he's always been and we've done some stuff together. He's played charity shows for me very kindly. He's been on the show a bunch, but I don't, at least I haven't known known him like. We've never spent any time together socially. That being said, I feel like this is one of those times where I feel like I got to know him a little bit. You guys are oddly similar. Yeah, and I didn't know that. I didn't know. I knew kind of a story and growing up Misissippi, and but it's like he left and I was like, dang, I like that guy, and I've always liked the guy. But I felt like I would like to be that guy's friend. So only two and you're too late, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Friend just now Randy Hauser at Randy Hauser he's got four hundred and thirty three thousand followers, so he's got a pretty big following on Instagram. If you you guys want to go over and follow him, that's cool. But here's the thing. He's got a new song called Cancel that's out right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm a godfian man.

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Speaker 2: He's got a role in The Killers of the Flower Moon, which you saw has scene there, which is pretty cool. He's also in a movie with Dennis Quaid. He just wrapped up touring with Cody Johnson. He's got a tour coming out in twenty twenty four. But let's go through some songs real quick. Running out of Moonlight, Me and you running out of a movie. This is a big, old fat number one. I mean, this song reminds me of us moving to town. It played all the time when we first moved here. A good Night Kiss started with a good like a cowboy on a sunny day, and we went chails chosing. So that was four number one from Randy Hauser. He's got an album, Note to Self that's available now, and he wrote on every one of the songs, You're gonna hear a lot of this stuff. I mean, something we didn't talk about was and I just felt like people probably always talk about it and we were in a good spot. I didn't bring up Honky Tonk, butdonkadonk oh yeah, and I don't I don't know that he doesn't like talking about it, but it was like I felt like we were on some real, like sincere stuff. Hey what about that Honk talk? And you know, just kind of felt weird to bring up. But he co wrote that with Jamie Johnson and Dallas Davids, and that was his first hit of the songwriter, at least one of them. Randy Hauser, Here we go, you guys again, follow him, go watch him. He's such a powerful vocalist. Afterward, he texted me, and this has always happened. He texted me, was like, hey, man, I just want to say I think he kind of felt like I did. It was like, oh, man, I think we like each other. Well, we always liked each other. It's like I think we like I don't know, want to hug and didn't. All Right, here we go Randy Hawser, Randy Hawser, good to see you. I did not know you were a golfer. Uh yeah, I know, because you were in the hat, Yeah, which is all hickory. I didn't is that? Uh? When did you start playing golf at all?

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Speaker 1: I started probably twelve years ago, only because I was so sick of sitting on my bus. I was just fed up. Like everybody would go out golfing, and you know, I didn't. I grew up in Mississippi where I grew up there. You know, unless you had money, you didn't golf, you know, so I sort of like in an odd way, had like a affinity like just kind of was like, I don't know people at golfer. I'm not in that. But then I and then I then I went out and just gave up, said all right, I'm gonna go you guys, and boom, I was devastatingly hooked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for me, similar you know in Arkansas, you didn't. I actually worked on a golf course. They never let us play because I did maintenance. Yeah, and if you were like one of the rich kids and your parent was a member, you you got carts as your job, but you got to play. Yeah, we never got to play. And so then I had this guilt of playing golf when I got older. Even saying I played golf, I did too because I was like, I don't want to seem like I'm rich. I don't either, because I was embarrassed about it. Same and but.

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Speaker 1: Then I figured out the joy of it is is that it's competition with yourself.

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Speaker 2: Dude. That's it. I tell my wife too, is you know we have whatever our our our personal needs are, whatever cups we need to have filled, you know, whatever terms you use, mine's I need my competition cup, Like I have to have something that I'm striving to get better at that isn't work, that isn't like my career.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we spent so much time trying to be the best at what we what we actually have made a living do. And I think it's a great outlet for people that have that do that and have done that, which everybody does. But and I think that's wild. Golf is so attractive people. I didn't know it then, but it's it's yeah, had me for years.

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Speaker 2: Were you an athlete in high school? Yeah? To what extent? What sports? And how were you using a high school athlete?

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Speaker 1: I was pretty good. I was a football player and a baseball player, pretty decent at both.

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Speaker 2: Well, what did you play like linebacker?

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Speaker 1: No, I was well through like the ninth grade. I was a quarterback because I was a little skinny, little you know, and then I just sprouted, Like when I got my driver's license, I was five four, one hundred and thirty five pains at sixteen or five four fifteen. We got our license at fifteen back then got it?

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Speaker 2: Then you acting like it was eighteen hundreds. We're the same age, I think probably, Yeah, so okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: But did y'all have to wait till sixteen?

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Speaker 2: Then we could get a hardship at fourteen? Yeah, and you could get a permit at fourteen. That's what it turned into.

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Speaker 1: A likenth a month a month of permit and yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think Arkansas Misissippi were a little bit alike because we both were broken hopeful, so they were just like, give the kids a license.

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Speaker 1: Let them get them out of here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're a fifty or five five and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I was five four, one hundred and thirty five pounds.

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Speaker 2: That's wild because you're a tall dude. Now, what are you six six ' to one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And so I see I would to put it like a safety of linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Well, then I played tackle in football, and then I was a picture catcher. I could play anywhere on baseball field. But now it's so weird after not playing baseball for like twenty something thirty years. Almost I pick up a baseball and it feels like I'm throwing a rock. It feels so tiny. Yeah, I can't. I can't get the feel of it anymore.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever play softball after your baseball, like in your adult life at all?

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Speaker 1: I tried. I tried to play in the celebrity things here, and I thought, dude, I'll crush this and I can't. I mean, that ball, the arc of the ball coming in is so completely different than a baseball coming at you.

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Speaker 2: You never like jump in the league like a recreation Tuesday night league or anything.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that, Like, you know, the funny thing about me, I grew up playing sports, but I know jack about sports anymore. I just can't. I think I once I decided I wasn't going to be a pro baseball player. You know, it was a kid. I was like I was always into music, you know, just even as a child. But then it was like I was so immersed myself into making music that I that I just kind of went, you know, put blinders on to everything as far as I am.

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Speaker 2: If I'm making assumptions about you, and please tell me I'm wrong. But growing up in Mississippi, grew up in Arkansas, like not only was country music prevalent in my life, but like classic rock was current rock. Oh yeah, I mean that was as that was his every day, as if it were being created that day. So all the bands from the late sixties and seventies, was that how it wasn Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely still is, yeah, I think you know, I mean, you know, as far as country, everything that's country at current country is what it's either that or thin Lizzie, you know, or Leonard skinnerd and you know, bad Company, and that's what I think. It's a lot still that way. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We hit my stepdad my mom remarried as a teenager, and that's what we would listen to the classic rock station and he would just always quiz me on what was playing, like in the first five seconds. And so I never had a dad, so I thought it was kind of cool that somebody cared. And so I would just study songs so I can impress them. Yeah, and so I should play that game. And so like the Hollys, like long long, cool woman in a black dress, and so I would learn all of those songs just because I wanted to like bond with him. And so that became that sixties and seventies, all that classic rock and even even later early early eighties became what bonded us because I was trying to like apply that tape, that that double sided sticky tape to us, and so that, that, to me, is my classic rock relationationship.

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Speaker 1: You said you had the well, you know, it's so funny. Like my mom. You know, I will see my mom and dad divorced when I was like six, and then he moved to the coast, which is like one hundred and fifty miles from us, and I barely saw him South. Yeah, yeah too, like Biloxi and I. Uh. And then my mom remarried, But I never had a bonding experience as much at all with she married twice, but I never you know, it was more like a ever not really No, it was kind of sad. It was kind of sad, but they just always made us feel like we were in the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did did you do? You have a relationship with them? Now, either one of them, they're both dead, they are so you have a relationship of remembering them. My stepdad now he's you know, my mom died and my girl. Pretty much everybody that raised me died except my stepdad, who was in just like the teenage years of my life. But I'm closer to him than anybody what else, Yeah, that I'm related to. I got very fortunate in that he didn't hop in and think he had to be my dad. Yeah, but he definitely didn't make it a point that he's not my dad. Yeah, and that was a big.

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Speaker 1: Factor for me. That's pretty strong.

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Speaker 2: What was your mom like?

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Speaker 1: My mom? She's still she's you know, so funny. She's been very very full circle. She's had you know, she's had a lot of issues over the years and and things that we've all had to fight with her to overcome. And and so my stepfather died three years ago and she had he was probably he was he was almost twenty years older than her, and she spent a lot of years last last year's taking care of him. And then she reconnected recently over the last two years with a high school boyfriend and they just got married. And he's a Baptist preacher.

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Speaker 2: Facebook. Bro, Yeah, I'm just assuming.

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Speaker 1: Crazy so they they and you know it's like she'd gone through.

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Speaker 2: A lot, you know, a lot, like it's like addiction stuff. Yeah, that's my mom. That's what she died of.

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Speaker 1: Well, my mama, I don't I don't know how much I should share about all that, but my mom went through got very close and uh, and decided one day after almost being done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that she would wanted to live. And she hid bottom. You got to hit bottom to try to climb.

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Speaker 1: Up, and man she did. I'm so so happy with what Guy's done in her life. And and uh, she's like, now this lady that I grew up with, that was you know, because so many years after her my dad split up, when it was just me and her and my sister. Uh, I just a lot of those years I remember her being such a go getter, you know, like having to take care of her babies and stuff, and she did she she did the best she could. And then and then it got these years she was just an unhappy person and but you know, no love lost. But it was just a tough tough time for everybody. But you know, I'm very very proud of I'm greatful. My dad died when I was twenty one as.

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Speaker 2: Well your your biological father. Yeah, I'm grateful for you that your mom hit rock bottom and got out because I just have dealing with addiction in many ways through my life. Yeah, my mom had to hit rock bottom. But she didn't live, but she had to hit rock bottom. Yeah, you have to hit that point where you're going, Okay, this is not good. I got a change. So that's that's like, I love that for you guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hate that that didn't work out for you.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, me too, and that part sucks, but you know for some people. And my mom went to rehabit to you know, I've talked about it a lot, but I've learned a lot from it, and I know that I would I would struggle with that. I've never had a drink of alcohol, yeah, because I would love it. God dang.

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Speaker 1: Well see yeah, and one thing I did learn from you know, when I'll drink, but I've had oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah without without like drinking.

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Speaker 1: A whole lot. No, I'm one of those people that can pull the plug, like because I saw killed my dad. You know, it's his liver and kidney.

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Speaker 2: Shut down, so it physically got him.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm almost. You know, I can, I can easily. He'll billy slip on, you know if I start feeling like I'm not in control or you know, I just I can feel it and that just makes me uncomfortable. I like enough just to make me go all right, you know. But some people don't have those abilities.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I wouldn't. I don't. I mean, it excites me just talking about it. Yeah, just like I go.

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Speaker 1: I've had friends that have you know, that were heavy, heavy drinkers that have made it out of it and completely different people know.

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Speaker 2: And Charles is somebody. I mean, I've been with Charles and Jake. I've been both those guys when they've been in both sides of it.

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Speaker 1: Jamie Johnson, that was one.

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Speaker 2: Like I used to tell Jake. I'd be like, like, when I moved to town, Jake was the first person I knew because we had a mutual friend. One of my best friends is he used to by Tennis Andy Roddick. He was like, hey, I know Jake because and so I moved here. He was like his name was, his name is Josh. I don't know why he goes by Jake, so like he knew him like that yeah, yeah, and so, uh, but Jake would go hard and he was just very inconsistent. There would be some days he'd want to fight me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen that.

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Speaker 2: So some days he want to love me.

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Speaker 1: I've seen Charles and Jake almost getting fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it was just really inconsistent with me. So I was like, I can't. But now that he doesn't drink at least like consistently, like we have a great relationship now because even if we don't get along, we know consistently it's it's completely changed who who who Jake is.

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Speaker 1: I've seen that in it and I love to see that because it's, uh, you're there's never a question mark who you're gonna get anymore, you know, And I love that. But I'm to me, though, if I have a couple of drinks, I just get giggles. That would be awesome. I don't. I don't get one of those. I don't get get mean. I get very protective of my friends now, Like if you fIF somebody's trying to mess around, I'm never I don't think I've ever been like an altercation that I that I was actually the one that was in the thing. It was always me taking up.

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Speaker 2: For someone, So you don't you never got drunken which wanted to go fight somebody. Hell, oh man, I'm afraid I would do that. I would take sleeping pills.

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Speaker 1: And I was always look for excuse.

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to. I can't imagine I would take sleeping pills. I had some issues, and so my doctor we tried all this stuff. It was like, you need to try sleeping pills. I just wouldn't remember what I did, and I stopped. Because you talk about the control thing. I just was afraid I would fly so much to be traveling again. I told my friends, I'm afraid I would be waking up in handcuffs arrested because I was like pooping or whacking off in the airplane in front of everybody and not remember it and not having Yeah, that happened, but that sounds fun too, especially We'll just try it. That's the problem. If I do, I'm gonna go as hard as.

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Speaker 1: I can, just try it without it and see if it's fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I don't want to do it without it. You have brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 1: I have two. I have a half sisters, younger and an older sister.

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Speaker 2: When did you live with them growing up?

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Speaker 1: Were close to them, Yeah, especially my older sister, my half sisters thirteen years younger than I, and we're still all very close. Yeah, but they still Mississippi. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you still have a like Mississippi pride to you? Like when I don't know what part it is that, but like do you still do you root for it to do good things?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, we're uh. I mean, you know, I think there's there's always a lot of even as undignified as the way I grew up, probably you two, there's still a lot of Uh, there's still so much of who we became that comes from that, and you know, the client, the struggle to not necessarily get out, but just to sometimes you know, it was the only way to to make something myself was to you know, to go. But there's still a lot of pride, and there's you know, you know, there's a lot of amazing, amazing people from where we're from and and that taught us so much. You know, there's like and the one thing I'll say there was there was a lot of even without having a dad around, there was all these other dads that stepped up. Never was a stepdad, but I had like ten dads, so that was that was incredible. That's one of the things that I always like try to strive to if I see that and a kid like, you know, I just lost one of my buddies here in April, and uh, you know, try to step up for his kids, and like, you know, somebody's as much as I can try to help fill that role, you know, because people did that for me.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you bring that up. It's such a big part of my life. Like my youth director at church saying, high school football.

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Speaker 1: Coach saying, like they'll talk to him twice a week.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, that's awesome. Coach like would step in and do things that they didn't have to do, right, but they're men, But yeah, it was. It was kind of the the in innate part of them where they were like I should and I will, and I still I can. I appreciate that so much even now more now than ever. Actually I do too. How did that affect you as a dad? Now?

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Speaker 1: I think that they were example the only examples I knew of what a dad was supposed to be. And you know, and it's still like a I mean, I still like struggle with him, I'm doing the right thing, you know, you know, I don't, you know, it's just uh, but to see people like that, that that raised good kids. And I was in a lot of those kids. I was being raised with them, you know, with those with their dads. But it definitely impacted me, you know, it made me I don't know, it made me want just it was a role model. It made me strive to be what they are. And so had they not stepped up, there's no telling what kind of piece of crap i'd be.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think too. For me, it showed me consistency, yeah, because I didn't have much consistency. Yeah, just to see consistency consistently, yes, but even yeah, just to see it though, even if it wasn't in my circle, but to see that it was kind of reachable. What wasn't really reachable for me was well this honestly, but like leaving because nobody left? How what?

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Speaker 1: What? What?

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Speaker 2: What is your leaving story?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a funny one, I think, the well leaving story. I Uh, one of my dads, He's he was, he's he is a radio person in Mississippi and he was on the air for thirty something years. Still it still does occasionally. His name is Ken Rainey, but he and his family, he's he is like one of my dads, but.

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Speaker 2: So not one of your stepdads. No, nobody who stepped it. Yes, sir, got it dad, you know.

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Speaker 1: And and he'll tell you right now that I'm one of his sons. You know. I had, you know, I so I got out of high school. I started playing bars and stuff like that, and I played around through Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, all that stuff for probably ten years. I had this band called ten Pound Biscuit and I so Ken was on the radio there, and uh, and he and I struck a friendship when I was in high school, you know, and he just sort of he just said, well, if you're going to do anything, you got to get out of here. And so he sort of brought me to Nashville and kind of introduced me to a few songwriter friends he knew at the time and and sort of just kind of like put me on my way. I had like fifteen hundred bucks in my pocket, and he gave me old like a nineteen ninety one Mercury Cougar because I didn't have a call. I gave you a car. Yeah, and it broke down week two. I was here, you know, but you know, but it was I was. I was also very very fortunate that when I got here, I had met, well, I had sort of known Derek George. I don't know if you know Derek George. Derek produced like the records like that How Country Feels and Running out of the Moonlight, those records. But he grew up in Philadelphia, Misissippi, which is like twenty miles from me, twenty five miles. And when I got here, I went to meet with Derek, and he took me into this publisher on music Row called wind Swept, and it was these guys. So I got very look And also I had met a girl that was here that had known me for Mississippi, that from playing clubs, and she said, Hey, would you ever be interested in like singing demos or anything like that? And I was like, sure, I'll do anything. I was about to just just going to get go, get it whatever job. And so she had these guys, Randy Boudreau, who was he's moved back to Louis but he had written like Broken Heartsville and some you know, like a lot of big songs and they asked me to gave me a shot at singing a demo for him. And this was like week one, and I sang one song for him, and they gave me like fifty bucks, and I was like, holy crap, you just got paid for singing in a studious Yeah, and like I'd never really been in a real studio. And so the next week they gave me like ten of them. He's like, so I just immediately kind of went work, and then the publisher like a month later signed in my first publishing deal. So I was really lucky. I mean, I had just spent a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: You spent a lot of time touring and doing tenpound biscuits, So it's not like you were seventeen and move to town.

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Speaker 1: In twenty six when I moved here.

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Speaker 2: Really that's like a grandpa, I know. I mean considering when people move here.

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Speaker 1: And I'm forty eight now, so I yeah, it's crazy how it's flown by.

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Speaker 2: What was tempound Biscuit about?

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Speaker 1: It was more like, I mean, we played a lot of country, but it was also like we would take like old Robert Johnson songs and speed them up and play them like we call it Mississippi rock and.

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Speaker 2: Roll too, so all blue songs that kind of contemporary make them a bit contemporary, soounting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when there was a lot of that stuff going on at that time, you know, like Normsissippi All Stars and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Do you think about those days when it was a struggle as also being freaking awesome? Now it's so awesome.

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Speaker 1: It is awesome. I mean every time I think, damn, things are not going my way, I just it doesn't take me but just a minute to think back and go, this is pretty badass.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it is, And I still have a real appreciation for Like when I was twenty one, twenty broke, but I bought a PlayStation two and I you know, I know, but I never had money, So it wasn't that I was in this whole world of not having money. I lived there, so wasn't that big of a deal. Yeah, I'm not scared to right, So the struggle was just surviving and having to pay all moment bills and stuff. But I would go home, but every dream was still in front of me. Yeah, that was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's still do you still have that sense about you that there's still things like Oh yeah, it's a constant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but does that get in your way to is that ever unhealthy for you?

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Speaker 1: Never? Really for me?

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Speaker 2: It is?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah? Just for me? You don't make me analyze must Well I.

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Speaker 2: Try to put you in a bad place, but yeah, I mean I do. I'm still like, there's still so why am I not here? What there is? Yes, I start to get in trouble a little bit. Well you're kind of at the top of what you do. But and I would say the same thing about you. I would not Okay, right, I'm not even going to the wards, but that's what I would say about me, Like I am not. And so it's just funny how the perception when we're ten thousand feet up looking at the forest is different than if we're sitting in the woods. Like I at times felt like a massive failure. Like most of the time, most of the time, well, I have.

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Speaker 1: To say that there are those those times that you know, it's just like all I can do is like create something that means something to me at the time and hope that it means something to someone else. You know, I can't I can't go into creating just to think I'm gonna go make some money, you know that order to be famous. You know, I just you know, I I think I went through a little phase of that and it didn't make me happy. I was just like near so you know, I'm I'm definitely you know, I wouldn't say that I'm happy with I'm very happy with what I achieved so far, but I always got to keep keep going, you know, challenge just like golf, competing with myself.

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Speaker 3: Hang tight, the Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 2: What do you enjoy doing? Just that's very open, vague question. Take golf out and take playing music out. What do you enjoy doing? What do you enjoy going? I asked this was in my therapist office yesterday, that their mental health big deal for me because I never even knew it was a real thing until I realized mine wasn't good.

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Speaker 1: Kind of one of those things.

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Speaker 2: And then he's like, where do you go? Like when you want to relax? What do you And I'm like, I have no idea, Yeah, what is it for you?

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Speaker 1: So? Okay, About fifteen years ago, I went on a trip with my buddy songwriter buddy Rob Hatch to Bahamas, where we're going, and and for me, it was the craziest thing because I'd never seen anything like this, didn't know anything like this existed. But I went with he and his family to the Bahamash and I saw the water there, and it was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen, you know that, just the color and being being able to get on a boat and go sort of like lake life but looking at an island over here and getting on a boat and just go do it. So I do that a lot, and I it's so funny because I had no idea about boats, or I grew up in the middle of the state. There's no there's no water, and.

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Speaker 2: Or if there are, their flat bottoms, right yeah.

00:27:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. So literally like three months later, I went back down there by myself and rented my own boat, really yeah, and rented a house and I started now, and I like, I screwed up so many of those people's boats, just hitting rocks and stuff like that, you know. But I eventually learned the water down there, and so that's like literally when I get off the plane there and get on a boat, I throw my bags on the boat, I go and it's just kind of like everything kind of just it's like a it's a weird baptism in a way. It's like a washes me clean. I don't have to think about anything else. My phones go off, don't have any service until I get to the house of Wi Fi and then But it's just like for me that that was my thing that I found. That was like my escape, you know.

00:28:08
Speaker 2: And what age was music? You're escape? Oh god, well, like what as a kid? And he can even be listening, like finding music to listen to before you played it, Like when did you when did you kind of love music?

00:28:18
Speaker 1: Well, because my dad was a musician, he would, you know, he would every night, never failed even you know, you know, he would sit on the side of my bed and play songs and I'd sing with him as a little boy, you know, So that that was you know, I can't remember not having that until he was gone. What kind of songs he would play, like anything, Like he'd play like Jimmy Buffett songs or Dan Fogelberg and he was he was really into singer songwriter music, and you know, but he would, you know, he'd play country stuff too, but it was more singer songwriter stuff than than probably like George Jones.

00:29:02
Speaker 2: You know what was his dream as a musician or an artist or did he have one?

00:29:06
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, but he he kind of I mean, you know, he grew up. He was kind of like extremely chied, like I could play anything, you know. He'd play piano and oregon on all these like old blue stuff and like, and he would played in bands and stuff like that. So I remember, I even remember like the first time I went and saw him play with a band, and I was probably four.

00:29:35
Speaker 2: You remember this, you remember something of four, four.

00:29:37
Speaker 1: Or five, It couldn't been much older, but it had impact on me. And I remember hit him. I remember thinking about him sitting on the side of my bed and playing with just him and singing songs and me singing with him. And then I saw him play at this playing playing with this band at this bar called and I remember the band the bar was called Willa Watson's. I remember that too, and and I and I recognized that there were like five people on stage, all doing something different, but it was coming out of these speakers is one thing. And it just impacted me. I was like, oh, I know what I'm going to do. I just knew. And so as soon as I could. As soon as I could learn how to play guitar, like I mean, as soon as I could. He was teaching me.

00:30:27
Speaker 2: You know what age is that six seven were playing like a small acoustic guitar. He'd have me just a little something, you know, man, that's those those got to be the best memories.

00:30:39
Speaker 1: They were when you know. And the great thing about him was and I do. And this is one thing I took from him with my kids is like, my kids don't go thirty minutes without me telling them how much I love them. And he was like that to me. So I never felt this that kind of deficiency. I knew that my daddy loved me. But and I And that's one thing I give to my kids. I'm like a me and Teddy I don't were talking about that last night. It was like one of our goals is for our kids to never not hear that. You know, how old is your oldest kid? Eleven?

00:31:12
Speaker 2: So you had your first kid at thirty thirty eight, so thirty six, we're just now starting to talk about having kids. Yeah, I've been scared forever. Didn't have models as parents, think I'd be a terrible parent. I was afraid to not be able to afford to be so all these irrational fears that are there for a reason. Obviously I experienced them, but they feel they're rational.

00:31:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what, I had the same thing. Ye, but I think that in eight Park kicks in.

00:31:40
Speaker 2: I hear you, but manate, I don't trust in ad in me.

00:31:44
Speaker 1: You'd kill it if you because you actually care that you the fact that you actually are scared, you would do a crappy job at it, You'll kill it.

00:31:54
Speaker 2: I'm also scared I do a crappy job like telling jokes, as I suck at that too. So what what's what's the What's what's having kids about?

00:32:03
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's for me. It is it was if I every ounce of ego that you might have, they'll kick that ship right down the stairs.

00:32:12
Speaker 2: Because because you were old, thirty thirty whatever you said, thirty five seven, that's older to have your dad, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be freaking grandpa.

00:32:20
Speaker 1: Well I got a one year old too, and I'm forty eight. So dude, but I'm like, I think I'm about to go.

00:32:31
Speaker 2: Yeah. For those that don't know, he meant chopping the tube that would send the sperm and out through his penis. So when do you start not the penis actually, no, that tube that would send the sperm ount through the penis, not the penis off. Hilarious, you go in for the wrong surgery. When did you start to play music with other people either your age or like older men that knew how to play instruments.

00:32:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, so probably fourth grade I started playing with There was a there was one guy his name was Jason Shirley that that lived in a town probably seven miles from me, that played guitar and his dad was a musicians. So we started doing that playing and then it became you know, everybody else quit, you know, doing that. So and then like I played and started literally probably tenth grade, really playing out, you know. Uh. And then right at the end of high school, I ended up playing in bands with everybody was twenty five years older than me. And so that was cool. It was it was like a college for me. You know. It was uh crazy, you know, it was. It was really great experience I had, and and and the people that I played with were so much better than they were ever giving credit for. You know, one of one of the guys that I played with, was in one of the bands was he was one of the original Burrito Brothers. His name was Chris Etheridge, and he he played on the road with Willie for several years too, and come back home to Mississippi and and and he and he sort of kind of like schooled me on charts and all the stuff, you know, and you know, always pushed me to get out of there and moved to Nashville.

00:34:23
Speaker 2: Like he cared.

00:34:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a good guy.

00:34:25
Speaker 2: Sounds like he cared you when you moved to Nashville. Just hearing your story about you guys playing and you touring all over the Southeast. Now, did you develop a following enough as a band or as a to make you think I have to go and take the next step or why like why stop that and come here?

00:34:46
Speaker 1: Well, I think that at the end of the day, I was the only one that took it as serious as as it needed to be taken. You know, everybody else had something to fall back on or you know, just I don't know. I just think I was more serious about it.

00:35:04
Speaker 2: And you you knew, not that you be success, you knew that that's what you had to do. Yeah, That's how I feel about this. You know, all the stuff that I do, and I tell people, Man, if you think there's a chance you could do something else, go do it. Because yeah, I agree, this sucks and it's awesome, but it sucks mostly. Yeah, but it's awesome. There's there's a there's a lot.

00:35:24
Speaker 1: There's something awesome and something that sucks. But there's always a yang to the end. I mean, it's just just the way it is. But you know, you're still the weight of the weight of the good definitely has outweighed you know, anything was bad from what.

00:35:39
Speaker 2: When you're hearing you're singing, you're doing demos, Are you hoping that somebody hears you singing demos? Yeah, like it's secretly like somebody that's that's you know, trying to listen to songs.

00:35:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course absolutely.

00:35:52
Speaker 2: I mean, how were you going to be discovered? In your mind?

00:35:57
Speaker 1: I had no idea. You know. One of the things one of the things that I did when I moved to Nashville is I didn't play live with a band here for like four or five years. I just refused because I was so scared that I would end up And I don't mean this in a bad way. But I always was scared that I would end up in another cover band here, and that would be I'd be downtown, you know, every night, you know, doing that, and that's not what I came. I'd done that for ten years before I moved here, So my focus was to get here and learn and learn how to really write songs and learn you know, I had, you know, I always written songs, but there's a different level of songwriters obviously in this town that know how to craft a song, you know, And sometimes I feel like some of the innocence of my songwriting got booted because of learning the process of how everybody writes here. So I think that I lost some of the raggedness, you know, which I sort of regret sometimes. But I wouldn't play live because I didn't want to didn't want to be in a cover band. And then when I felt like I had written enough songs to really go start playing, I.

00:37:18
Speaker 2: Did, Where do you play when you're ready to start playing?

00:37:22
Speaker 1: Back? Then it would be like third and Lensley.

00:37:24
Speaker 2: Twelfth and Porter and how do you get a shot to see Elis Corner? Do you have to do? You know something you've been in town? For a few years. Now, do you know somebody do you go and just call and say can I get Like? How do you do that? At that point, well.

00:37:35
Speaker 1: I had been playing like writers' nights, just acoustic, and so some of the club owners will be like, are you ever going to put a band together and go and go? We'd love to have you play. And finally I did.

00:37:48
Speaker 2: When you would play these writers' nights, these rounds, would people react to you singing in a way that would make you think, I crave this and obviously I'm good at it. When did that start happening for you? Did you have such a distinct strong voice? And I don't think that just happened like three years ago.

00:38:07
Speaker 1: No, that was you know, I, like I said, I'd been doing that for so long, it was I mean that part was like, that's just innate to me. You know. I don't mean that in like a boasting way. It's just like you get on the radio and you talk and somehow you keep the thing, keep the ball rolling, and you just know how.

00:38:26
Speaker 2: To do it.

00:38:27
Speaker 1: It's instinct right right, And that's how I guess. It's a combination of the things I listened to growing up a combination of being in the bed singing with my dad at four years old and learn how to learn how to use the muscles to make my voice do the things that I hear in my head.

00:38:46
Speaker 2: Like a like a picture, throwing a cab a muscle memory and learning what works And when did you When did you realize you were a good singer?

00:38:56
Speaker 1: I don't know if you I still sometimes I don't know, uh, I you know, I hear people that that that I still hear people that I go, man, I wish I had that kind of voice.

00:39:07
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair.

00:39:08
Speaker 1: But like.

00:39:10
Speaker 2: If you're singing and you're being rewarded by applause or people going, oh you're great, it maybe that's when did that fourteen fifteen or was it later?

00:39:18
Speaker 1: It was probably them, Yeah, yeah, it may have been. I mean, you know, I sing in church as a kid, and I would, you know, uh, always end up with one of the like if I was in a Bible school player or something, I'd always have the part that would sing and stuff like that. So I was always always like I was aware that I could do it, but I think it, you know, it's still I mean, I go back and listen to old work tapes and things like that, and I hear how how the times, you know, how my voice has changed, and how my style has changed, and and I don't know if I don't know if I'm where I'm supposed to be as a singer even now, you know, because every every one of those stages I thought I was. But you know, I also realized listening back that that stylistically and the tone of my voice has changed. And this I guess that just happens as you get older. And but I don't know. I you know, I always kind of knew I could sing, you know, but could but you can sing so good.

00:40:33
Speaker 2: And I'm you know, I'm not just take your weasels right now, but it's like I'm about to get a clip. Yeah, I hear you.

00:40:41
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the Bobby Cast.

00:40:54
Speaker 2: So you moved to Nashville, and I think I would just be a bit intimidated, regardless of how good I was, because again, you could be the best, but there were other people to sing different and seemed great.

00:41:04
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this town is full of it, you know.

00:41:07
Speaker 2: And but here you are singing demos and people are paying you. That's got to give you confidence if you're like.

00:41:11
Speaker 1: Oh, it was amazing. It was like I was. I was so thankful, you know. It was like and some of those some of those people that gave me that work early on are still like great friends of mine, you know, and I have really just believed in me it since day one, and you know, been really just encouraging from day one. And so there's a lot of credit goes do to like Kent Blaze, a guy like that, and and some of these guys that gave me work all the time consistently believed in me is enough of a singer to try to go picture their songs that they work their ass off to right to these to these guys and but have always believed in me to put my stamp on their song to try to make it something that somebody wouldn't want to hear, you know. So that there's a lot of credit that goes to those people for giving me a an outlet to grow.

00:42:09
Speaker 2: When did you get that first opportunity, that first look where it's like, I know you wanted to sink obviously you're you're waiting. You didn't want to be in a cover band, you wanted to be your own artist. Yeah, when did that first serious look come from somebody? It may not even worked out, but they're like, all right, Randy, we think it's pretty good. Let's give you a look. Do you have like a.

00:42:29
Speaker 1: Like a showcase?

00:42:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be the word the show. You have any showcase or anything like that?

00:42:33
Speaker 1: Yeah? I had. I mean I had a kind of like a bunch of those kind of things happen, you know. I mean as whenever I started playing live around town, there was kind of always somebody coming out. You know, it was like, well there's a lot. It was like I remember like at twelfth Importer one year, it was like the highest like I had the like the highest grossing alcohol sales for their year, you know on nights, because I would do it like once or twice a month and they would average out who was selling there. But I had a lot of people who would come.

00:43:06
Speaker 2: Do you feel the building.

00:43:08
Speaker 1: That was great? I mean it would just be slammed and it was and and it was you know when you're in those those like those you come to Nashville and you like from being from Mississippi and not really having a lot of people that do what I do to come up with when I came here to find my group of guys was my family, you know, and and so it was always, you know, it was a place to be when we to go out and play, and it was just everybody that we knew came out. You know. It was like one of those It was a scene back in the day, and it was when you get your record deal. Deal, you're My first record deal was I guess probably two thousand and five.

00:43:51
Speaker 2: Then I'm assuming your first record deal. I did not end in a way that you would want it to end. It's like it's like going when somebody goes my first wife, my first you know. So the first record deal then, I guess, was not good for you.

00:44:05
Speaker 1: Well, long term, it was an interesting story. It was Allison Jones that's now at Big Machine signed me. James Stroud and her signed me to m c A. And so James took me and my band to Bahamas and we cut a record cut the first record.

00:44:34
Speaker 2: They take you there because they knew you wanted and you look.

00:44:37
Speaker 1: They just said, here's there's a lot of backstory to well. The story is basically that I didn't know it at the time, and I'm not sure. I don't know if James knew it at the time, but but he got blown out right after we cut that record. I don't know if he was just like, let's go, and I don't know if that was the way funny. So yeah, we went to Compass Point where let like you know, back in Black record, a lot of that stuff was cut and we went down there. I took my band, we had a blast, started recording and stuff came back, got ruffs almost done. He gets blown out and then uh so Luke Lewis took over mc A. Him and James were the heads of it and basically I was out.

00:45:28
Speaker 2: When the people that don't bring you in. I mean I had a I talked show pilot once and it was awesome. I loved it, and we did that. We shot the pilot, felt so good about it, and then like two weeks after we shot it, the President that okay greenlit it. It's blown out because it doesn't matter how good it is. It's like new athletic director coming in and I had football coach. It's like the first chance that it's not great, They're going to get their own person.

00:45:54
Speaker 1: Absolutely you're not their kids.

00:45:56
Speaker 2: So you felt that there. So how do you kind of bounce back, what do you do for a while.

00:46:00
Speaker 1: So, uh, the the saving grace out of that was is that Universal South came came along right at that time. They were a part of that whole group, the mc A group, you know. So Mark Wright took over Universal South, and uh and in my deal, there was almost out there. I was history and Mark said, wait a minute, y'all aren't gonna keep him. And so Mark sign me over Universal South. And that's that's when I had like the first like success I had, you know, like anything goes and boots on, so.

00:46:46
Speaker 2: You got to put out music over there, different music. But yeah, when you have success like boots On for example, and that was that wasn't even what it later became. I mean, it was it, this is awesome, top of the world, I'm a huge star. No, it wasn't that at all.

00:47:04
Speaker 1: Oh hell no, I was still getting I felt like I was getting my teeth kicked in all the time. You know.

00:47:09
Speaker 2: It was like being on the road away.

00:47:11
Speaker 1: No, I just it was just uh, well yeah, part partly, I mean, I just don't think. I don't think there's ever been an I've arrived moment for me because just goes back to what we were talking about earlier is Okay, we're here, how do we get there? How do we You know that we're never going to be satisfied.

00:47:28
Speaker 2: Even with How Country Feels, which was a monster. Yeah, they didn't give you that a little bit.

00:47:34
Speaker 1: Well, I remember feeling because well, I remember how I when I knew that How Country Feels was a hit? I remember that.

00:47:44
Speaker 2: Just ahead, let's not let's not make it lower a monster?

00:47:48
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was crazy, yeah, but it but I never but all I'm all I'm thinking at that point is oh shit, how do I do this again? Because and I've seen it. I've seen so many ways and in the in this business that I'm not scared of it. But I remember that first time feeling of realizing it was a hit, and I was. I remember distinctly how it happened. I was we were in Saint Louis and it was it was a station that Steve Stewart was the pdat and he put on this thing. It was in the fall. It was about that it was just at Halloween and he decided he was going to do this thing called Concerts in the Corn and uh, and so it was cold, as shit and we go. We're out in this cornfield on a flatbed and I got gloves on, and we get there, like, you know, five hours earlier, and I'm thinking, this place is twenty five miles out of town and nobody knows me. And I'm like, there's nobody coming to this and and literally that song had just like hit like top fifteen, top here or something like that, and and these cars started coming in, and they came in. We had to push a show like an hour because they were not ready for what was what was coming, and I wasn't. It was freaky, but it was like that. But that was the first time and it wasn't like, you know, I was opening for somebody. It was my show. So I was like, oh my god, these people actually came to see me.

00:49:27
Speaker 2: Isn't it weird how that can happen. You can be in it so much you're not even like, I'm educating yourself on what your art is doing. Yeah, because at that you know, you're promoting a song. You're out working, and you're right, you're going station to station, You're doing every freaking show, and you're not really feeling it because you're working so hard. And then all of a sudden when there is It took probably them delaying that show and you freezing your balls off to go by dang, this thing is yeah, it is creating some response.

00:49:59
Speaker 1: That was the first time time I knew that that song was as big as it was. It was. It was that was nuts, but it was a I remember I remember a very short pat on my own back, you know, and then going okay, uh, guess what I got to be at another radio station at eight am, and and uh and a you know, at a lunch table. There's nothing glamorous.

00:50:23
Speaker 2: You know, it's like just realking conference room with like some dude and his it doesn't even want to watch, doesn't want to be there. Yeah, that's tough, but that's you know what.

00:50:33
Speaker 1: I also appreciate that stuff so much because it I never felt like I didn't work for anything.

00:50:40
Speaker 2: You know, your song canceled, You wrote that, right, Tell me about that song, not so much about the song, but why, Like what what were what were you thinking whenever you're writing that song? Like what did it start as? What did to end up?

00:50:54
Speaker 1: As? I guess for me, it was just, you know, I think I've just been watching too much news at the time, and uh and starting to also was starting to feel like misrepresented in a way. I feel like that I feel like I was being made to feel like because I'm a straight male dad in a family that people resent me for that that that people some people look at me and go, you got it all. You have no deficiencies. You know that that that in some way that that's almost looked down upon by some people. And I think that, you know, that's everything that I always always knew to strive to be. And and and then there's a certain group of people that that feel like that that I feel like I've been made to feel like that, that's you know what I mean, snarky.

00:52:03
Speaker 2: But so you write the song? Was it a feeling you had? Or we're gonna chase this song? Was it a few words? Was it a like a melt a hook?

00:52:15
Speaker 1: Like?

00:52:15
Speaker 2: How did the song start?

00:52:16
Speaker 1: It started just the first line, I gotta see I don't like with this world's headed just don't get it, don't get it. That's how the song came along. And it was you know, the song is written from from my standpoint. The song is about not judging people. You know, I felt like I was being judged for who I am. But at the same time, I don't judge other people for who they are, and I don't you know, yes, I'm a conservative, male, dad, heterold man, but I don't give a shit what you do in your bedroom. Don't your decisions and what your life has led you to, or that's your you're cross to bear. I don't. I have no play into that, and I'm not going to tell you're right or wrong. You know. It's just like, but I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be made to feel And I know that sounds a little but there have been times when I was made to feel that I should feel bad for what I was born, and I don't want other people to feel that way about how they live.

00:53:24
Speaker 2: And I think that's the difference in that you are having something, regardless what the situations happened to you, that you're not doing to other people. So it doesn't feel like right, this is fair.

00:53:34
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like that if you're privilege, well.

00:53:38
Speaker 2: If you were screaming hey, you can't you shouldn't be gay loudly, no, I think I would probably understand if people were yelling at you, oh you're but but you're saying, you're you're just living.

00:53:49
Speaker 1: Your life, right, and I think that's what everybody should do. Right.

00:53:53
Speaker 2: So this what's been the feedback on the song, Uh, you.

00:53:57
Speaker 1: Know, mixed. You know, you get some people that think that that I'm bashing you know other you know, choices that people make, and that's not the case. You know, It's just about be who you are, be proud of who you are, love who you want to love, do what you want to do. That's at the end of the day. I'm not your judge. You're in my opinion, because I am a Christian that you're gonna have to deal with that. So later on by somebody that's way got more. You know, I'm not the judge. That's that's somebody else's gig me.

00:54:32
Speaker 2: I'm a judge. I'll be the greatest king of the world, of the world. I'm not even king of America. I'll be the greatest king of the world. And I do not know why they don't just an absolutely. So I do want to talk about the movie for a second, which I don't go to the movie theater.

00:54:51
Speaker 1: I can't.

00:54:52
Speaker 2: I take that back. My wife makes me sometimes, I really.

00:54:55
Speaker 1: You know, I did I haven't either a long time, but I did.

00:54:58
Speaker 2: These watch this too, Mike. Mike d loved Killers of the Flower movie. My wife read the book and so we're waiting, Yeah, well did you read.

00:55:08
Speaker 1: It before I read it when I got cast.

00:55:11
Speaker 2: So we're waiting for it because it's an Apple Apple movie, right, Mike, yep. So we're waiting for it to come. And she's from Oklahoma. My wife is, oh, yeah, yeah, like very much. What part of Oklahoma from like near ish Tulsa.

00:55:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's where.

00:55:25
Speaker 2: Yes, So she knows a lot about it through like three and four generations that would talk about it, right, And like she's moved by the story because she has personal relationships with people that had personal relationships. So, Mike, I'm gonna let you ask the first couple questions. I know you've seen it, I know the story, but you're way more educated on the actual movie.

00:55:44
Speaker 5: The senior have is with Leonardo DiCaprio, and one of my other favorite movies he did with Scorsese was Wolf of Wall Street. And I've seen like a behind the scenes clip of him like totally in the zone, like doesn't even look like he's there, and then right when the camera goes on, he instantly goes into that character.

00:55:58
Speaker 2: Does he do that?

00:56:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one of the like, uh, one of the things that was noticeable by well, he's he's also when he doesn't look like he's working his mind. Like one of the strangest things would happen was like between like between like takes, if we had like downtime, changing out film stuff like that, just hanging out talking I did, I'd notice that he would like we'd just kind of shoot the shoot the ship. You know, I don't know if I can say that long a but and then you know, like the next day he would come back to the set and we'd be talking and he would repeat things that I said to him, just like me, like he would download my accent and stuff like that, which is crazy and uh, but no, he would, you know, he like there would be time we'd just be throwing a ball or something out out in the yard and then you know it would be time to go back in. You know, like he very normal, very normal guy, but also freaking amazing whenever whenever they would yell action how he would just freaking go at it. You know. It was just kind of like stepping on the Grand ole operat and them saying your turn and like doing what I do, you kind of have to. Just one of the things that was so cool about it to me and I enjoyed about the whole process is that I was, first of all, was scared of death, you know, like I'd never done this. I was like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing here. And but the same is even now, before I go on stage, I'm a little anxious and like these people are gonna hate me whatever. But when it came time to go to the set from you know, the actors a little where we're staged to go to the actual getting cameras, the same the same gear was shifted in my being that that is when I'm walking to the stage to go play music and that and it became it fed me like to go do it rather than you know, all the every fear was gone. It was just go time. Really, so I seek I could see that in him as well.

00:58:21
Speaker 2: Man, that is awesome that you're just weren't so self conscious.

00:58:24
Speaker 1: Oh I was, But but I was able to like that blocking mechanism that that happens with going to make music. It totally was the same thing.

00:58:35
Speaker 2: Was it like watching a different kind of artist. For example, go to a major League baseball game. Never bet it didn't go until I was older, but I would see like a real athlete, Like, oh god, I thought i'd seen a real athlete until I saw oh, freaking real athlete.

00:58:46
Speaker 1: That's what it was, absolute, damnolutely it was. It was like and first of all, I'd never seen this whole process at all, you know, and so it it was strange that it was and I'd never really done and i'd never done it. The first first scene I shot was the scene that actually made the film. There's a lot of scenes that got cut, you know, they had hundreds of hours of stuff, but they uh, the first scene that I shot was the scene that actually made the film. And it was like four hours of like going back because they shoot it, you know, from every angle. Everybody's in the scene has to do their thing. But and I remember just being like totally like, what the hell, where's Martins? Of course, saying you're up there, and and he's coming over to me, and he's standing over my shoulder right here, and I'm sitting at that this desk. You know, it's like that bigger than that thing. But like old school, and I'm sitting there and he's explaining what he wants out of me and talking to me, and I'm like, literally in law light land, what the hell? And so he shoot my angle like I don't know, four times, and Marty, he's over there in this other room where their viewing what's going on. He comes out, all right, we got it, and I went because I'd seen a guy the day before I got there, and I stayed on set all day dressed ready to go to shoot. This scene didn't happen, but I'd seen a guy and another and another scene that that didn't make it. Uh, they shot his this thing like I don't know, it must have been twenty something times because they couldn't get it, didn't get it, and you could sense the you could sense the air leaking out of the room and wasting time and money, and so I was just like went back to my bus out and I was like, please, God, don't let me be that guy I study studies. Well, So then he comes up and he goes, he goes. Marty comes out, Okay, Randy, we got it. I was like, we do, and he's like, yeah, we got it, And I was like, are you sure. He's like yeah, uh and and he said what And so Leo looks same and says, what do you mean sure? I was like, I've never really done this. He said, what do you mean You've never really done this? I was like, I've never done this. He said, we wouldn't You wouldn't know, you.

01:01:15
Speaker 2: Know, would I would know what I would do? I would spiral so bad and go, well, I must have been so bad. They know there's no hope, So so we're just gonna do it a few times because they know we might as well just move on.

01:01:26
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01:01:38
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01:01:41
Speaker 2: Had to feel watching yourself back?

01:01:43
Speaker 1: It was weird? Yeah, it was. It was. I went to were I was in, oh, somewhere in Texas a few weeks ago, maybe Dallas or somewhere, and we went to one of those mega me and some of my band was during the middle of the day, went to one of those megaplex things and it was just the gigantic scream, you know. And actually my buddy sent me video of me watching it while we were sitting there. But it was like, it's emotional as well, you know, it was like, I don't know, it was strange.

01:02:20
Speaker 2: Did you feel the need to in any little bit of acting that I've done, I've done it. I did a movie with Vanessa Hudgins once, and I did I played myself on Nashville where actually had lines later and so I did some stuff, but I never to that level. But I felt like I had to fake like I belonged. Yeah, because I so didn't feel like I did. Like I did not feel like I was one of them. But I knew I had to be professional and I was expected to show up and be just as good as they were. I wasn't gonna be as good as they were, but to show up, do your job, make sure we don't slow production down to the Did you have that pressure that you put on yourself.

01:02:55
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't feel like I had to be one of them. I think that one of the coolest things I had done enough, uh, well before I saw this. Okay, that was the first one I shot. I shot another one that came out. Yeah, So the one that we're talking about now, I think that I was so far. One of the things I got to say is there were so many people that weren't actors in that movie. Musicians, songwriters and things like that. That that I kind of felt like, and I'd heard this that that Scorsese likes to get real people in his movies, just to create that atmosphere of realism, you know, and that aren't actors, and just you know, you know, I'm not an actor, but if you want somebody that talks like this to say that I can do it.

01:03:41
Speaker 2: When you did The Hill with Dennis Quaid, you are. But that was your That's a lot of acting.

01:03:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a bigger role, a bit definitely a bigger a lot more to chew own.

01:03:51
Speaker 2: Were you excited because you'd had a taste.

01:03:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, And now I want to do it more because that it was It was you know. Now I'll look at I've only I've only seen Killers of the Flyman once and I was in that like for like ten seconds, you know. But I did a lot. I did a lot of stuff in it, but it just that half of it didn't make it. But there was with the one with Dennis Quaid, The Hill, which I love that movie. It's it was I look at it and go damn, because I you know, I have my own studio home where I can sit and play the guitar parts. Many times I want and do all those things and I look at that and I'm going, damn, I want to do that again. I want to Oh man, I could have done that so much better had I know, you know, there's not there's none that opportunity to do that like that. But it did leave me wanting to. Uh, you know what. For me, it was just creatively to be able to explore some other thing and challenge myself was a lot of fun. Find fulfillment in it. I did. It was like, uh, but it was all so that thing of like a healthy balance of beating myself up, you know what I mean, because it's not I don't really when I go out and I grab my guitar, I go play, I know what I'm doing. It was something that was almost like standing on the edge of a tall building.

01:05:18
Speaker 2: That's how I felt would stand up when I've really started pursuing it be because it's just that's exactly it.

01:05:23
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, Oh my god, like.

01:05:25
Speaker 2: There's a performance aspect to it, which.

01:05:27
Speaker 1: You do and you get the timing.

01:05:29
Speaker 2: Sure, but then it's there's a big part of it where you're just vulnerable again.

01:05:33
Speaker 1: Oh man, and that vulnerability is scary. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a drug in a way. It's like that.

01:05:38
Speaker 2: And when you do it right, you're right.

01:05:40
Speaker 1: I feel you feel that too. You chase it.

01:05:42
Speaker 2: I need alcohol now, guys, we're back to that. I need a beer right now. So I know you're twenty twenty four to where you're gonna announce that soon you're doing a bunch of dates.

01:05:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm think I'm gonna do a lot less than I did this year. I can't. My kids are like, it's just harder and harder to leave home. You know.

01:06:05
Speaker 2: If this is too much, let me know. I don't know how public you are about it. But Johnny Gilacky, he was with you when I saw you, I didn't even see you. Scare the crap out of me walking up to the I'm in my car, we're about to leave. You're like, Bobby, I see a dude with a beard coming at me from the left.

01:06:19
Speaker 1: Oh what have I done?

01:06:20
Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh god, I didn't steal anything. I swear to god. It was you. And are you got How did you guys get to know each other?

01:06:28
Speaker 1: We met uh on Taddy I'm and I when we got married. We met on our honeymoon on a Lutherra and he was on break from shooting Big Bang. I'd never seen Big Bang, you know, and and we we ended up, you know, out back smoking cigarettes and just ended up talking and sort of figured out what each other did. And but we just hit it off and then it was it was you know, it was sort of like an instant friendship.

01:07:02
Speaker 2: And and I, uh, you know, he wasn't living here then, was he in l A?

01:07:07
Speaker 1: He was in l A. Yeah, And we stayed in touch, and we ended up doing putting on a benefit uh for uh Poso Saloon as a place out in northern California that uh I think it's shut down now, but the one of the owners was had a cancer battle and they weren't making any money out there. So we went and raised a bunch of money and he and I put this thing on for them, and so we just became friends and we would figure out, you know, he would come to Nashville some hang stay with us, and I'd go stay with his place and hang out, and we just we could kind of it was it was weird because we're completely two different worlds. It was kind of like you know, it was. It was strange because completely different backgrounds, completely different views a lot of ways politically, and but somehow have always been able to find our spot and never get mad. You know.

01:08:17
Speaker 2: That's a that's a difference in one on one and human to human then pack and pack.

01:08:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's absolutely.

01:08:23
Speaker 2: Because if it almost doesn't matter if you let's just say you're having a situation, your car's broken down, or you're in a parking lot and somebody's going to help you. Yeah, Now would a group of one side help a group of another side. Probably not if it's PACKMNTAC, which is sad, yes, But when it comes to human human, yeah, like that stuff is secondary in life. Absolutely, we've made it a little more forward than we should. We've let it really define us more than I say, it's just us as an American culture. Yeah, but I know when it comes to person to person, I've never had an issue with helping anybody, anybody helping me because of any sort of affiliation I have with anything.

01:09:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think sometimes I think we have it so good and our and today in these times that that we have had to create ship to fight about. We're bored.

01:09:15
Speaker 2: We're just like the smart kid in school get in trouble because.

01:09:18
Speaker 1: We're all gonna eat. Well, we're all gonna you know what I mean, dude. And the other thing that I find was that I h that most uh, most people are you know, you have media outlets that want to you know, they make money off pulling people further and further these sides, and and really everybody's not that far.

01:09:42
Speaker 2: It's ninety eight percent of the same. The focus is on the two to three percent we're not. They make money everybody they made by selling commercials because it's sensational. Every side the news. The news is not the news. The news is entertainment, right, every every part of it. And the same thing with politicians, like they want to divide us so they can have us and that's section votes and you just build your section up big.

01:10:02
Speaker 1: Yeah it's wild.

01:10:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, look, let's end. The song is canceled, The Randy the Dennis.

01:10:10
Speaker 1: Question songs canceled.

01:10:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, the song, the Dennis Quad movie The Hill, which you do more acting, which you know I think now people are like, you know, Randy's and Killers of the Flower Moon, and you are but there's definitely there's definitely more of you. Yeah as well, it's you know, a seasoned actor in the hill.

01:10:28
Speaker 1: Well there's you know, to even get a part in the Scorsese film was like crazy, right, you know. I was like even watching I was like, I'm almost in there. But like and then then I have friends that are actors that are like, dude, we've been trying to get in a Scorsese film for twenty five years. That's awesome. So that was cool.

01:10:47
Speaker 2: You're playing golf this week?

01:10:48
Speaker 1: I am? Yeah, hopefully, I definitely am. Uh next week? Why definitely next week because we're going to uh, we're going on our trip Bahamas.

01:10:58
Speaker 2: Oh you're playing out there?

01:10:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your handy? Goat?

01:11:01
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm eleven.

01:11:02
Speaker 1: We should go.

01:11:03
Speaker 2: We should go. Let me Yeah, let's because listen, most of my friends have real jobs. Yeah, so it's like I can play golf a like noon, yeah, because I work early in the morning. Yeah, so yeah, that'll be fun.

01:11:17
Speaker 1: We go there's there's I mean, I go to the I'll go to Old Hickory something.

01:11:21
Speaker 2: I never played ol Hickory. We went up there and looked because my course was shut down for a little bit.

01:11:23
Speaker 1: It's fun. Yeah, it's uh, I mean, it's just fun. Let's put that way. I like to you know, there's.

01:11:31
Speaker 2: Why I put it that way. Somebody get murdered on the course.

01:11:33
Speaker 1: No, it's just like right now it's freaking no brown or ye, no member. Yeah, but yeah, it's a blast out there.

01:11:41
Speaker 2: I just took read and we went and I tell you up in Monterey. Yeah, Yeah, it was awesome. It's elite. It's it's like doing stuff that I never thought i'd get to do. But also you have to be a member, and we're not members obviously, so it's like somebody calls and finds a member. Then you go on like a blind date with an old man.

01:11:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like, that's like this place where I'm going to next week, the Abaco Club, freaking heaven on Earth. You know, it's kind of down by the same area as the other one, and it's just like, I can't. It's like Ron White when he's talking about he's rolling that place and he's like, nobody's stopping me.

01:12:16
Speaker 2: You guys. Follow Randy at Randy Hauser on Instagram and Twitter. Same thing at Randy Hauser and then Randyheuser dot com. We'll be waiting for the tour announcement and the song is canceled, and we love talking with you. We've just been an hour with each other. I could do another hour pretty easily, so let's do it. Okay, So it's the next step. Randy, good to talk to you, Buddy, you

01:12:33
Speaker 3: Too, Thanks, Bob, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production