"Five Minutes of Fire": Panmunjon, Brando, The King and I

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Step into the brisk world of "Five Minutes of Fire," the podcast series that unravels the historical tapestry within Billy Joel's timeless anthem, "We Didn't Start the Fire." Join us twice a day for a quick, immersive journey through the past as we dissect the historical names and events embedded in the song.In today's episode, the flames of history burn bright as we explore Panmunjom, the symbolic heart of the Korean War's ceasefire negotiations. We then pivot to the realm of cinema, delving into the indomitable Marlon Brando and his impact on Hollywood. Finally, we take center stage with "The King and I," the Broadway classic that resonated with audiences worldwide.In just five minutes, we'll guide you through the intricacies of these historical touchpoints, providing context, anecdotes, and a deeper understanding of their place in the 20th-century narrative. Whether you're a devoted Billy Joel fan or someone intrigued by history, "Five Minutes of Fire" is your daily companion on a journey through time.Subscribe now to join us as we break down the verses of "We Didn't Start the Fire," offering insights that illuminate the stories behind the names etched into the lyrics. "Five Minutes of Fire" - where history comes alive in succinct, vibrant bursts, twice a day. Don't miss your daily spark of historical exploration!
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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, this is Mark Edwards aka Aggie Dad and
<v Speaker 1>Tiger Grad and you're listening to the Surely You Can't
<v Speaker 1>Be Serious Podcast. You know, I learned something new every
<v Speaker 1>single week from these guys.
<v Speaker 2>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely you Can't
<v Speaker 2>Be Serious Podcast? Special Edition five Minutes of Fire. We
<v Speaker 2>are here talking about the lyrics of We Didn't Start
<v Speaker 2>the Fire by Billy Joel. We're covering only five minutes
<v Speaker 2>at a time, which is about to link for the song,
<v Speaker 2>so it works out kind of nicely, So please join
<v Speaker 2>us as we dive into some new lyrics today.
<v Speaker 3>All right, guys, So here are the topics that we're
<v Speaker 3>going to be covering today.
<v Speaker 2>Pen Mu John, Brando and the King and I. Okay, Jason,
<v Speaker 2>what can you tell me about pen Mujohn Okay?
<v Speaker 3>I knew nothing about Pen Mu John until I dove
<v Speaker 3>into this. This is the village where the US and
<v Speaker 3>South Korea met with China and North Korea to end
<v Speaker 3>the Korean War. So it's this village just north of
<v Speaker 3>the Korean border where nineteen fifty three it got together
<v Speaker 3>and signed that truce. Although most of the troops have
<v Speaker 3>been removed, it is still heavily armed, and both sides
<v Speaker 3>are there today.
<v Speaker 2>Is allan Alda's still there? He might be, He might be.
<v Speaker 3>So the de militarized zone, it's one hundred and fifty
<v Speaker 3>miles long and two and a half miles wide, and
<v Speaker 3>they still like do petty things to each other all
<v Speaker 3>the time. Like South Korea put up a flag, North
<v Speaker 3>Korea put up one and it was taller, and South
<v Speaker 3>Korea blasts like k pop towards the North Korea side. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and North Korea blast propaganda from there now then no
<v Speaker 3>peace treaty was ever signed. So technically North and South
<v Speaker 3>Korea are still at war. Okayde, what can you tell
<v Speaker 3>me about Brando?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Brando has got to be Marlon Brando, which
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about multiple times in our past. Of course,
<v Speaker 2>Brando was a high school dropout. As a matter of fact,
<v Speaker 2>he got kicked out of high school. His dad sent
<v Speaker 2>him to military school, and he get kicked out of
<v Speaker 2>that as well, went home, was a ditch digger. Ultimately
<v Speaker 2>decided to go up to New York and study acting,
<v Speaker 2>where he studied with Stella Adler, who was teaching the
<v Speaker 2>Stanislavsky method. He had the personality that he was kind
<v Speaker 2>of difficult to get along with, but he was an
<v Speaker 2>incredibly good actor and incredibly skilled with this Stanislavsky method.
<v Speaker 2>So he was in started acting in plays and such.
<v Speaker 2>Would sometimes do very well on stage, but other times
<v Speaker 2>would kind of fall into this method thing and piss
<v Speaker 2>the other actors off, and eventually he would get fired
<v Speaker 2>from a production. Well, one of the times he got fired,
<v Speaker 2>it happened to be a very fortuitous circumstance because him
<v Speaker 2>being fired led to him getting a part in the
<v Speaker 2>brand new Tennessee Williams play called a Streetcar named Desire. Now,
<v Speaker 2>the part that he was going to play was of
<v Speaker 2>Stanley Kowalski. That part was supposed to be an older guy,
<v Speaker 2>but even Tennessee Williams, when he heard Brando Reid, he
<v Speaker 2>was like, this brought a whole new life to this character.
<v Speaker 2>The youth made it something different and something better than
<v Speaker 2>I had originally thought. In nineteen fifty one, he was
<v Speaker 2>cast in the same part in the movie Stella. So
<v Speaker 2>this very early acting role for him resulted in a
<v Speaker 2>nomination for an Oscar. He didn't win that year, but
<v Speaker 2>he ultimately did win for On the Waterfront. It could
<v Speaker 2>have been a contenda, and he was the actor of
<v Speaker 2>the time in the fifties. I mean he was basically
<v Speaker 2>the John Travolta of the fifties. But in the sixties
<v Speaker 2>he started to do some bad work, kind of fell
<v Speaker 2>out of favor. He ultimately came back, as we all know,
<v Speaker 2>in the seventies with The Godfather, where he got nominated
<v Speaker 2>for an Oscar Again. Interestingly, Stella Adler I mentioned was
<v Speaker 2>his teacher. Lee Strasberg was the other method acting teacher
<v Speaker 2>of the time, and he tried to take credit for Brando,
<v Speaker 2>but Branda was like, no, this guy taught me nothing.
<v Speaker 2>He's a moron and I don't care for him. Well,
<v Speaker 2>what's interesting is Brando of course was in Godfather one.
<v Speaker 2>Lee Strasburg was of course in Godfather Part two. Then
<v Speaker 2>of course we have The Last Tang in Paris, and
<v Speaker 2>we have Superman, which they had to film in England
<v Speaker 2>because he had pornography charges in Italy from the last
<v Speaker 2>thing go in Paris. As it turns out, in the seventies,
<v Speaker 2>also what was going on with him, He was involved
<v Speaker 2>in a sexual relationship with Richard Pryor. According to Richard
<v Speaker 2>Pryor's wife and Quincy Jones. So you know, they pulled
<v Speaker 2>him out of Superman two, but he found a way
<v Speaker 2>to put himself into Superman Thury. If you will, there
<v Speaker 2>you go, Marlon Branda hard on top that one. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>tell me about The King and I.
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So The King and I is a musical by
<v Speaker 3>Rogers and Hammerstein which debuted in March of nineteen fifty one.
<v Speaker 3>It's based on the novel called Anna and the King
<v Speaker 3>of Siam, which was written by Margaret London, derived from
<v Speaker 3>the memoirs of Anna leon Owens, the governess to the
<v Speaker 3>children of King Moncote of Siam from.
<v Speaker 2>The eighteen sixties. It was easy for you to say.
<v Speaker 3>I know there was a loving relationship there, but they
<v Speaker 3>could never really act on it. So the musical premier
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen fifty one. The stage play and film both
<v Speaker 3>debut in nineteen fifty s So you will recognize Jule
<v Speaker 3>Brenner as the star. He played the King. He is
<v Speaker 3>one of only ten people who won a Tony and
<v Speaker 3>an Academy Award for the same role. Nice I'm more
<v Speaker 3>familiar with the Chow Young Fat and Jodie Foster version
<v Speaker 3>from the nineties that was called Anna and the King.
<v Speaker 3>Some of the songs you may know are shall We Dance,
<v Speaker 3>I Whistle A happy tune, and getting to Know You.
<v Speaker 3>That is the King and.
<v Speaker 2>I Love it. Okay, guys, that does it for today's episode.
<v Speaker 2>Join us next time for five minutes of fire.

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