Hour 3 – Dave Roberts, Sam Smith & Phil Jackson

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final hour in this Wednesday, it'll be busy. Dave Roberts, Dodger Skipper will join us. Also Phil Jackson, he's got a book that he collaborated with the longtime NBA writer, Bulls writer Sam Smith who gave us the Jordan Rules. And Phil will join us coming up here in a little bit. Sunday Night, Pittsburgh has a big challenge. It's Aaron Rodgers leading the Steelers against Justin Herbert and the Chargers. That'll be primetime Sunday, seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. That's spicy. I like that matchup. That's easy to promote when you put Justin Herbert there and you put Aaron Rodgers there, eight seven to seven to three. DP Show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at dp show.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: If you are watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app and poll question for the final hour, the program is going to be what seedon?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me get you caught up here. I'm sort of workshopping a Tom Brady dog cloning Polk questions. We of course, however, let me get you caught up. If you're a Jets fan today, sixty three percent are feeling lost currently, which is the best state for football. Indiana's got thirty percent of that vote. The field, however, has seventy percent. Okay, and then this one Kyler Murray finishes his career with the Cardinals, another NFL team, or in baseball eighty seven percent right now, have another NFL team?

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Baseball's getting eleven percent of that vote.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, Paul, he's happy with that. Keith and Charlotte. Hi, Keith, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 6: Dan?

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Speaker 7: I've called you last couple of weeks about our last couple of months about the Panthers, and I was trying to get in on Friday to offer another pile of the faith bet for them to beat the Green Bay Packers. Whether you believe it or not, it's all good. Timing didn't work out, so I got another bet for you guys. It's my birthday today and I'm hoping that someone will take me up on there.

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Speaker 1: I need.

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Speaker 7: I want to see the content on the show for you, Dan. I am going to take the Panthers to make the playoffs. Their defense is playing great. Rice is serviceable for Rico Donald's rolling. So who's got the who's got the field?

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Speaker 2: Anybody want a piece of Keith? In Charlotte, he's got the Panthers making the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: But no, no, they don't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: No, no, beg Oh believe? Oh you do believe? In Carolina?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow? Okay, they got a chance. Well, they got a winning record. What have they got?

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Speaker 3: Five wins?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Five and win?

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Speaker 10: But they got some tough games down the stretch. You get the Buccaneers twice, the Seahawks, the Rams, the Niners.

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Speaker 3: Well, once again, Keith is asking if anybody wants a piece of it.

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Speaker 4: According to this website that I'm looking at, they have about a fifty seven chance of making the playoffs. As I think in he it looks like they have about a fifty seven percent chance of making the playoffs. No, okay, so's that bad?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't think you have any takers here, Keith.

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Speaker 2: I think people are kind of saying they kind of think the Panthers are playoff worthy.

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Speaker 7: Ish, I guess I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: Dam Okay, well you're gonna have to. Nobody else is going to take you up on that. It's a good story. Yuh, really a good story.

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Speaker 2: I think you got everybody's attention when you go to Green Bay and you beat green Bay. But that's I think a lot of times what happens is we're like, what's wrong with green Bay? They've had you know, you lose to Carolina at home and you lose to the Browns.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I completely read that wrong. They have a fifty seven percent chance to not make a playoffs. They have an eleven percent chance of getting in as a seven seed. The wild card seeds, they have about like a somewhere between a four to let's see, a seven to eleven percent chance of getting a wild card.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so are you saying you're gonna take Keith up on the bet?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 4: It's a unbelievably optimistic take bye bye key.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'll jump in on it.

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Speaker 4: Since I messed up what I said before, now I feel like I have to do it, so I'll jump in on them. All right, So Keith Seaton will take you up on the offer. I'm saying that they're not going to win the bet. Loser gets in a cage with a panther. Any takers now, is that like.

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Speaker 2: Rico Daldell that you get in the cage with him or an actual panther?

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Speaker 4: Which would you rather least like to be attacked by?

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Speaker 3: Mark? In Saint Cloud, Minnesota. Hi, Mark, welcome back, And.

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Speaker 11: I got a couple of things for you. First of all, you've touched on the Packers. Why is it they start so slow? It's like a nonchalant attitude with that team. And I think it's from the coach on down. I mean, you never see him get that playered up, and it reflects in the quarterback. And I know people like calm quarterbacks and cool under fire, but you can't be Joe Cool all the time.

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Speaker 12: Plus, I have a stat.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Mark.

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Speaker 2: Of the Day, sat of the Day, brought to you by Benini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Well, look who's back, Dodger manager Dave Roberts. Another World Series title. Didn't need to make a proclamation in spring training, didn't have to do any of that stuff. Just an easy seven games and there you are winning again. I guess can you compare the back to back the different feelings that you had.

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Speaker 13: Well, I'm glad your who hum about it. It was very difficult. Winning a championship is very difficult. Winning two is even tougher. No, I mean, there's nothing like Game seven, and a lot of things had happened. Guys stepped up, and I'm just proud of the guys. There's a lot of pressure points in that series, in the postseason and certainly in the World Series. But it certainly wasn't easy. And yeah, we've done something that hadn't been done in twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: But you look at pressure and we could see pressure. It was tangible when you're watching Game seven. But the pressure to you're supposed to win, expected to win, you know, the media of the you know, fans. It feels like the difference in being an underdog in winning, like when you won with the Red Sox as a player, to winning when you're the favorite.

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Speaker 3: The different kind of pressures are feeling that.

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Speaker 14: You have with that, Yeah, you know, I guess, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 13: I guess The thing about sports is, yeah, everyone's got opinions, but you know, the David and Goliath narrative, fans, media put things together that just aren't true, and to be quite honest, people that have never been in the ring. And the Blue Jays were a very good team. They won the ale least, they won more baseball games than we did. But we're Goliath, and so it was a great series and we were trying to win the series. They were trying to win a World Series. I don't think he was pressure. I think that what happens is as athletes, as teams, you have expectations and goals for yourself.

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Speaker 15: And.

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Speaker 13: You know, you don't want more for yourself than I think than fans do. You want to win, you expect to win. So I don't think that our pressure or pressure from the fans or media had any bearing on the game. We were trying to win for each other in the city of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Give me the move that maybe you were going to second guess yourself in Game seven and you didn't.

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Speaker 13: Probably, well, the easiest one is hitting for Miguel Ross. He's a defensive guy. I inserted him in Game six to add some infusion and energy into our club.

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Speaker 14: And yeah, that's probably the one.

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Speaker 13: But you know, looking at the bench, it's tough to pinch hit and anyone can say and you were probably second guessing me saying you should hit for him, and because the numbers say that there's other guys that can hit home runs in this but it's hard to come off the bench. And I trusted my players, and you know, he made me look good and he deserved that moment. And in the postseason, what I have learned Dan is you know, it's not about the numbers. You got to trust your players. And my job is to know the players. That's my job. Ultimately, that's my job. It's not to know statistics. It's about to know the heartbeat of the player. And I do believe that you know, to win eleven or this year thirteen games in October. You've got to trust your players, to know your players, and that's what we did.

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Speaker 2: But so you're saying gut feeling still has a place in the game. It feels like we're so attached to analytics. How much of what you did in Game seven was gut as opposed to analytics.

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Speaker 14: It's all got.

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Speaker 13: I think that if you look back at twenty twenty four in the postseason, it's the eye test, it's gut. But people, if you look at twenty twenty, it's eye tests, it's got. People can't get off the analytics for some reason. So these are people that are just stuck in their ways and you're never going to change them. But if people that really want to walk, that really watch the game and know the game, then they can see that analytics had nothing. It's about, you know, coaches trusting their players and players stepping up in big moments.

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Speaker 2: When you saw the collision in left center with Pios and key K, what.

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Speaker 13: I was a bear's r answer and I was unbelievable. You know, they both went after it. Kek was trying to make his Willie Mays play. Pahes was just inserted and just made a next level, big moment play. And it's funny because Key K laid down there for dead, and Pies asked me if he was okay, and he says, forget that.

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Speaker 14: Do you have the ball?

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Speaker 13: And he said, yes, I do have the ball, and he goes, he got up and ran into the dugout.

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Speaker 14: So it was it was but again.

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Speaker 13: And it's like Miguel Ross coming out of Game seven because he just expended all energy. It's like, that's just what fans lived for, and that's what our players gave both teams.

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Speaker 2: The play at the plate, how close that was? Are you ready then to ask for replay?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 13: That was like I was asking for replay right from the get go. Or if they would have called it, say for sure. And I was with Will Smith last night and he goes, I honestly did not realize that I took my foot off the plate to then have the wherewithal to put it down. And that's the thing, is that, but even the play for me to take it, to lose momentum and then to regain to make a good throw for Will to field it get his foot back down. I mean, oh my god, it's a Heartache series.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Dave Roberts, Dodger manager, Yamamoto reminded me of Pedro. Remind me of Pedro Martinez. Are they similar build, similar size and it gets.

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Speaker 13: Very similar build, very similar size, you know obviously Pedro, you know, sort of a similar mix if you say the split is Pedro's changeup and just same mindset. You know Patro on game days, I've never seen. He's an assassin and Yamamoto is an assassin. What he did is stuff like Pedro asked Sandy Kofasque asked, obviously what.

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Speaker 14: Mad bummed in I did.

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Speaker 13: And I don't know if it was twenty twelve or twenty fourteen, one of those Giants years. But yeah, I mean this is the guy that, yeah, not physical, but his mind Dan is just pretty spectacular.

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Speaker 2: But if you would have said, hey, beginning of the series, a Japanese born player is going to win MVP.

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Speaker 14: Joe Hey all day, yeah, all day.

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Speaker 2: But what did you learn about him in this world series or in the playoffs that maybe you didn't know?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, not the World series, the playoffs. So I actually I knew that he's a killer.

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Speaker 14: I knew it. This guy, and he.

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Speaker 13: Showed that, you know, this year, having just a tremendous years being a stop perforce, pitching huge and big games, going come fleet game. Doing what he did in Milwaukee was incredible, complete games, one one run. I think the first yeah, gives up a solo homer, a leadoff homer, then goes nine innings shut after that, then the next game, complete game, and then in game.

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Speaker 14: Three, eighteen innings, I think he was like thirteenth inning, He's like, I'm ready to go down there.

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Speaker 13: I'm not going to let a position player pitch in the game in a World Series game, and this is a one day off, and so that showed me a lot.

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Speaker 14: Freddy walks it off.

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Speaker 13: And then so yesterday or Game seven obviously was no surprise, but to go three innings was incredible.

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Speaker 2: But Otani and your you say him throughout the season, ramping him up. Was he coming in in game seven or he started get yeah?

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Speaker 13: No, no, because he started game seven okay. And then so once he was done, he gave us three innings and then I was like, you know what, I think he just wasn't a sharp Get him off the pitching, lock in on the hitting, and then we had some RMS behind him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought the way you ramped him up the entire season was interesting. You know, when you have that kind of talent, but you know, he's got two innings or he's got three, like you, you got to be careful that you don't get greedy in a situation. I guess like you do.

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Speaker 14: And it was it's hard not to be greedy.

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Speaker 13: But we went one inning, we remain steadfast one and he won in two innings, two innings, three innings, and then you know at the end, that was the first time because all year he had seven, eight, nine, ten days of rest. So Game seven was the first time he ever went on three days rest. So that's why you know, this guy's coming off to Tommy John's he is, he's our team MVP, and so he's two players and one so we couldn't get greed with him. So three days it wasn't terribly sharp. He gave us three innings. That was that was plenty.

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Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw is joining us tomorrow. Nice, What should I bring up to him?

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Speaker 14: Oh my gosh, you know, I think.

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Speaker 3: Was that going in in Game seven he was it.

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Speaker 13: Was either going to be the next hitter or certainly if they tied it up, If Kirk tied it up right there, Kirk Clayton was going to take.

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Speaker 14: The next hitting.

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Speaker 3: How nervous were you when he was on the mound when he got that.

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Speaker 13: I was nervous in that game Game three, Game three. I bring him in in a basis loaded situation, and it goes back to again, it goes back to trust your players. Clayton and I have been through so much in my ten years with him, eighteen years obviously in his career, and we've had some loads, certainly together, and we had some highs. But again, I'm gonna if it's going to go down, I'm gonna I'm gonna bet on playing Kershaw. And I've proved that time and time again.

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Speaker 3: How was the celebration?

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Speaker 14: Oh, so last year was insane.

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Speaker 13: We didn't get it in twenty twenty, so it sort of kind of butted up together in twenty four. But last yesterday's parade or two days Agost parade was It was the best. The bet they they did. They one up themselves, more people, a longer parade route, players were just over Jordan. It was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Damn you getting used to this.

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Speaker 13: I would say, I it's it's I enjoy it. I wouldn't say, get used to it. We already talked about the players already talked about a three p I talked about a three peat. So I'm not making any guarantees, but I already cleared it with pat Riley on the three P term.

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Speaker 14: So uh, we're excited. I just think with us, you got to find some carrot.

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Speaker 13: You know, it's like we started out in South Korean twenty four, finished in the Bronx, started out in Tokyo, finished in Canada, and so we've had the longest season, the shortest offseason of anyone, travel the most mile. So you've got to have have some carrot to keep our guys focused and motivated.

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Speaker 14: So the three pet is it for us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean you should. You want to win, you expect to win.

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Speaker 13: That's right, that's absolutely right. Congrats, congrats, Thank you, Dan, I appreciate you man.

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Speaker 3: All right, enjoy your off season.

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Speaker 14: All right, take care and tell Clayton I said hello tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: All righty, that's Dave Roberts did it again. I remember that was when he guaranteed was at twenty twenty four, and I think he was like, I'm not going to do that again. You know they're gonna hold me accountable. But he's right about a carrot. You know, when you win, now, what do you do? You know, the motivation? How do we get you to go all in again? Hey, we're going to be a three peep absolutely, and pat Riley will take a piece of that. Dave Roberts, he's won four World Series so three with the Dodgers. Then he of course one one is a player with the Red Sox sor right when we come back. Phil Jackson, he's got a book out and he collaborated with Sam Smith. It's called Masters of the Game, a conversational history of the NBA in seventy.

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Speaker 2: Bulls came back from twenty four down beat the seventy six ers, the thunder still undefeated. They beat the Clippers one twenty six, one oh seven, and that's the best start by a defending champ since the twenty fifteen. Twenty sixteen Warriors opened the season with twenty four consecutive wins. Sam Smith Phil Jackson co authors of Masters of the Game, a conversational history of the NBA, in its seventy five legendary players. Sam of course covers the Bulls. He's done so since nineteen eighty seven. He gave us the Jordan rules, and of course Phil Jackson eleven time NBA champ, and they join us. Now, Phil, you know you have all of these different players, all these different chapters where you and Sam are just talking back and forth about them, giving your thoughts in a conversational tone. Give me the player that you had the most fun talking about in this book.

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Speaker 16: Well, I think we could have gone on forever about but I would say some of the guys that I didn't coach, So the guys that you know, Hamichech and players that you know, competed against and had admiration for.

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Speaker 2: Sam, give me the player in the book that more people should know about.

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Speaker 17: You know, I think one who gets overlooked so much is Rick Barry. You know, people know Rick Barry. I don't think they appreciate how great Rick Rick Barry, you know, in my view, could have been. You know, Steph Curry with his shooting ability. He was such an all around versatile player who for various reasons, was so universally disliked. But you know, one of the interesting things. Phil went on a lot of State Department tours back then, and he was on one with Rick, and I remember one Phil was telling we were talking about one with Pete Maravich where and I know the history books don't reflect this actually, but Pete basically opened China before Richard Nixon. Because I think on some of the State Department tours, you know Pete stribbling and passing and playing, you know, so excited some of the communities in China and Phil what we were talking about and that was another I know they know Pete Maravich, but you know, they don't know in this era, And to me that was part that was really what the book's about, that these guys sort of lost to history as much gets But I believe and I think when you see Jokic now and you see Donkitch, these guys could have played in any ear including this era, and I don't think that is appreciated, And that was that was a big part of my interest in the book.

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Speaker 2: It feels like the NBA started when Magic and Larry showed up, So you had players in the sixties, certainly in the seventies. They missed out on the TV era. And I think Kareem the better years of his career he missed out or we missed out. But what do you remember about Kareem?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, this is a guy who had a bonnie that could survive playing in this game for twenty some years. Not too many guys can even shoot the step hook as a jump hook or two foot takeoff, and Kareem was able to perfect this shot. He was able to play with a certain amount of grace. His defense was always criticized, and his rebounding perhaps as a shortcoming, but his scoring was never He was a great scorer, and he was a guy that held himself together quite well off the court as well as on.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Sam Smith and Phil Jackson. The book is Masters of the Game, a conversational history of the NBA the seventy five legendary players. So was there somebody that you wanted to include that you didn't.

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Speaker 17: We used the NBA's top seventy five and you know, no offense. But I thought they were too many, but it was seventy five years. They had to go in seventy five, you know, sort of the controversial if it would be named, was Dwight Howard. But he's a Hall of Famer. You know, people look at it as a negative when you say, well, he wasn't deserving it being the Hall of Fame. You know, a top seventy five, and I thought some of the seventy five, you know, Damian Lillard no offense. I didn't think he was the top seventy five player. I think there was some recent, you know, recency bias in the list, but they had to get the seventy five. I think it was overall a pretty good list. You know I ended up being on the panel. I know Phil doesn't like to select ranked people, and we didn't rank people in this and I think that's another thing that's different. You know, it's not the debate who's number one, who's number two. You know, it's a look at the history of it. So I think it's a fairly good list overall.

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Speaker 5: Phil.

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Speaker 2: Over the years, it feels like your relationship with Scottie Pippen has been complicated.

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Speaker 3: Can you expound upon that.

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Speaker 16: Well, I was assistant coach when Scotty came into the game, and I played with him and against him one on one and tried to help his game out a little bit. And I was big in promoting Scotty because you know, we had Scotty coming off the bench and I had to sub in as a coach for Doug Collins when he got thrown out of a game, and that was like the immediate thing I did. I put Scotty in the game and up the pressure defense because this is one of the best defensive players ever to play the game. So I had a lot of admiration for him and had a lot of contact with him. He was the on court guy that I alerted all the time when defensive strategies would come, double teams, traps, et cetera, whistle, Hey Scottie, it's time whatever. So yeah, it was shocking to hear the comments that he made, but he had a situation that was coming off the bench, not being able to play the last few seconds of the basketball game. That was critical and it made a big change in his life. Michael called the next day from baseball and said, I don't know Scotty'll ever be able to live this down. And I think it's been a hard thing to live down, you know, refusing to go on the ballgame because things didn't go your way.

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Speaker 17: I wanted to add something briefly with that. I thought it was really poignant. You know, Phil's kept a good relationship with Michael. I've seen him occasionally on chat as much as he and Phil might and when some of those things came out, we talked about this in the book that Philip asked Michael about that, and Michael really expressed regret. I thought it was really poignant that Michael told Phil that he feels terrible about losing the relationship with Scottie. You know, a twenty twenty five year relationship that was closer than a lot of people thought. And so you know, it struck me as really poignant that Michael felt a loss about this.

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Speaker 2: Phil The Dennis Rodman relationship certainly different, but it almost felt like you had these big personalities and you gave everybody almost their own longitude and latitude.

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Speaker 3: Is that fair to say?

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Speaker 16: We had a team that was without a power forward when Michael came back to play after his baseball stip, And yeah, we put on a power forwards that it could be or would be capable of filling that role. And we came up with Dennis Robin as the only one that really fit the bill. We traded will Purdue for him and it wasn't a big money thing. And after meeting Dennis and knowing who he was, I addressed the team as we're all adults. There's got to be exception for some players. This guy's not going to come to the games on time. He doesn't shoot, he doesn't go out and shoot around. So he's asked me if he can come a half hour late, so he'll be fine. We'll find him, like the NBA wants to find players for not being there an hour and a half before the game and at the end of the year he'll pay the fine of whatever it was, two five hundred dollars or whatever. But these are exceptions that we're going to have to live with this guy, and I think his talent overways. What's going to happen as we go together towards winning a championship?

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Speaker 3: Phil, give me the player you wish you had coached.

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Speaker 16: Wow, I think a lot of There are a lot of players that you look at and say, what a terrific player this guy is. He's overall, but I think Latners is like one of the guys I thought never really got to play the way he was capable of playing.

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Speaker 14: In the NBA.

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Speaker 16: I would liked to coach guy like that that has talent, had some leadership, mobility, maybe never blossomed as an NBA player.

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Speaker 2: Sam, who do you think changed the game more? Michael Jordan or Steph Curry.

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Speaker 17: Michael Jordan partially because I'm still with the Bulls, so I have to say that that's in my contract. But the greatest thing, you know, I sometimes say, you know, this guy shot better than Michael, passed better, read back, and there's every skill they did bet at Michael. How could be the greatest player. You know, part of it is not just you know, Michael changed the world. You know, long shorts, men could be bald. You know, bald was good. Bald was never good before earrings, the shoes, the fashion. Michael's influence about the world way transcended basketball, and you know that's part of the equation. So I don't think anybody could ever rival Michael with the combination.

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Speaker 2: Of his play guys, good luck with the book. It was an easy read. It was a fun read, and I learned a few things about some of those players that I didn't get a chance to see when I was growing up. Phil, I think I saw you at the Cincinnati Gardens when the Knicks came to town against the Royals. But thanks again, Sam, great to see it, Phil, thank you as well, and good luck with the book.

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Speaker 14: Thanks Ton, Thank you to see it thirty years again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Sam, So thirty years if the Bulls win another championship, because I'd always see Sam when they'd win a championship. How about Phil, of all the players he could coach, and he gave me Christian Laytner, and I went, okay, Christian's going to be happy to hear about that, but I was like, uh, I almost said, wait a minute, who yeah, PAULI.

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Speaker 10: The whole room on this side we all went in, what I know, because we expected, you know, Dominique Wilkins or some player who whatever. Oh that's that's gonna be frustrating. If you here, Christian Laytner and you hear that.

00:30:37
Speaker 3: Almost yeah, but a compliment.

00:30:40
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Phil said that he wanted to. I never You could have given me one hundred guesses. You could have given me a thousand guesses, and I wouldn't have said Christian Lightner.

00:30:52
Speaker 5: Uh.

00:30:52
Speaker 2: Nick and Florida, Good morning, Nick. What's on your mind today?

00:30:58
Speaker 8: Borning Dan six foot one seventy great interview, and I just finished another great interview from yesterday on YouTube.

00:31:10
Speaker 14: The Reggie.

00:31:11
Speaker 8: I mean, he's always he's always great. It's reg But that's what I wanted to call about because I just got to give him so much credit and I don't want to take him for granted, for an All Star, a Hall of Famer, a guy like him to be as vulnerable as he is over the years on the show and in other interviews. Of course he's telling doakes. He's a great time. But I don't know any other Hall of Famer, it's tough to think about, especially in hoops. That also just lets it out and gives you like he's gonna talk about Michael Jordan trash talk moments, but also tell you I just had to believe I was the best player, even though I knew I was.

00:32:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm appreciative of reg but I've known Reggie going back to when he was a player, so it's probably been thirty years that I've known him. And to have him be comfortable enough to not treat this as an interview but a conversation. And that's the key with any interview. If you can get them to forget that there's a microphone or there's a TV camera there, that's your goal and it's very hard to do, but when you get it, then you get some great things. Masters of the Game, a conversational history of the NBA in seventy five legendary players.

00:32:39
Speaker 3: That is the book. Well, take a.

00:32:41
Speaker 2: Break, last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's in store tomorrow right after this.

00:32:45
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00:33:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a few doozies up there, We really do. It's given me one moment here to dial a few things in we have up there. If you're a Jets fan today, how are you feeling about? Thirty seven percent are excited for the future, but sixty three percent feeling lost.

00:33:25
Speaker 3: Okay.

00:33:26
Speaker 2: If you're not feeling good about this, go back and listen to Albert Rear last hour of the Monday Morning Quarterback, because he did present a scenario that sounded promising for Jets fans.

00:33:38
Speaker 3: Okay.

00:33:38
Speaker 4: See currently the best state for football Indiana or the field. The field has seventy one percent of that vote. That's not a bad showing for Indiana. Shout out Indiana.

00:33:47
Speaker 3: Okay.

00:33:47
Speaker 4: And also Kyler Murray heally will finish his career with another NFL team has eighty seven percent of that vote. The Cardinals just two point two. Your other option there was in Major League Baseball that's got eleven percent center the vote.

00:34:00
Speaker 3: Pretty good, Okay.

00:34:02
Speaker 2: An hour ago we talked about Tom Brady. He's he cloned his family dog and took some blood from the dog before it passed away, and then I guess they created a dog in his image based.

00:34:19
Speaker 10: Off the DNA and sample blood sample of the old dog.

00:34:23
Speaker 2: Yes, rip, okay, so you take the DNA and then what do you you put it in a peatrie?

00:34:28
Speaker 3: How do I get a dog out of that?

00:34:29
Speaker 10: I'm looking at the website right now and there's not a clear definition of how.

00:34:33
Speaker 3: It's built the new dog. Okay, but we.

00:34:37
Speaker 10: Have a game for you, Dan, how much to clone your dog? You're asking for the price five thousand dollars. I'm going to give you another guess. I'm going to go to the back row, first seat, and how much to clone a dog? General twenty five thousand dollars, Fritzy.

00:34:53
Speaker 8: One hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

00:34:55
Speaker 3: Marvin fifty thousand dollars. I'm going to go ten thousand dollars.

00:35:00
Speaker 10: Okay, Cloning a dog costs Marvin fifty dollars installments. By the way, okay, can't just pay the back end. Horse cloning is eighty five thousand. A lot more cloning going on there, bigger horse.

00:35:15
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if I got you know, a triple Crown winner or something.

00:35:19
Speaker 3: Oh that would you know?

00:35:21
Speaker 2: I can make money off my dog unless it's like a the Westminster Dog Show.

00:35:27
Speaker 3: So cloning your dog? Pity k that's it. Rich in Wisconsin, Hi.

00:35:33
Speaker 12: Rich, Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. I got a comment on the dogs and a T shirt idea. So the dogs, there's a lot of dogs that need to be adopted. I'm a dog owner myself, adopts. We don't need to be making more dogs. They're all going to have their own personality.

00:35:53
Speaker 16: Just adopts.

00:35:54
Speaker 12: Okay, So the T shirt idea, yeah, we're always always talking about conn that's the king. So do a shirt that has capital k oh C on it. Pronounce it however you want getting your content.

00:36:12
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Thank you Rich. I agree with you.

00:36:16
Speaker 2: Adopt adopt a dog, Yes, nothing wrong wrong with getting a dog like Winnie or Penny.

00:36:26
Speaker 3: Yes, Todd, and get your pet spade and neutered. Thank you Todd.

00:36:29
Speaker 10: Yes, PAULI, my brother in law got a dog for his family and he paid at a high price for this dog because it was they guaranteed it wouldn't shed. It was some I don't know what it was, guaranteed.

00:36:41
Speaker 4: Something a doodle. Yeah exactly, Yeah, yes, it was something a doodle.

00:36:45
Speaker 3: Whatever it is.

00:36:45
Speaker 10: This dog sheds like like at the contest and he's trying to win.

00:36:50
Speaker 3: Mike and Cincinnati. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?

00:36:55
Speaker 5: I agree with you, Dan, adopt dogs like that for so many. That's a classy example of that too much money pawning your damn dog. Anyway, your interview with Dave Roberts was just are you talking about You were talking about the arm of relaxing the Interviewee, well.

00:37:12
Speaker 6: You did it beautifully. I thought you guys were sitting on the couch, you know, over your house or something, just shooting a brief But the story told can you recount quickly? Because I only I didn't really hear it real well?

00:37:24
Speaker 5: What the t K said?

00:37:25
Speaker 6: Pie has with that catch?

00:37:28
Speaker 2: He just wanted to know if he caught it. Pie has wanted to know if he was okay. And he was like, forget about that, did you catch the ball? Because he thought if he didn't catch it, they lost. This day in sports history, Paul.

00:37:40
Speaker 10: Got a couple for you. Let's start with nineteen forty six, the first glass backboard shattered an NBA game. I know you know who did it.

00:37:48
Speaker 3: He was a went on to be a TV star.

00:37:51
Speaker 2: Yes, he was the rifleman, Chuck Connors of the self, Chuck Connors, the Rifleman.

00:37:55
Speaker 10: The AFL was formed in nineteen fifty nine, and let's see George Foreman nineteen ninety four, knighted out Michael Moore in the tenth round of their WBA fight.

00:38:07
Speaker 2: By the way, Chuck Connors didn't dunk when he shattered the glass.

00:38:13
Speaker 3: Are you a bunk? Are you the bunk?

00:38:14
Speaker 14: No?

00:38:14
Speaker 3: No, no, it shattered.

00:38:16
Speaker 2: But he actually during warm ups he hit a shot that hit the front of the rim and it cracked the glass backboard because it had been installed incorrectly. But he didn't do it where he brought down the house like Darryl Dawkins.

00:38:31
Speaker 10: Yes, pauland this is like stolen valor. I've thought for decades that Chuck Connors was like this great dunker and then actor.

00:38:38
Speaker 2: Well a great actor. I don't think he was a great dunker.

00:38:42
Speaker 10: Yeah, Darryl Dawkins should sue somebody.

00:38:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was, it hit the front of the rim and then it cracked it because it had been installed improperly. At least sources close to the closer. Yeah, Zach in South Ben Hizac.

00:38:59
Speaker 9: What's up?

00:38:59
Speaker 5: Dan?

00:39:00
Speaker 9: Three shooters?

00:39:04
Speaker 12: So two things real quick.

00:39:06
Speaker 9: I want to make a case for the best state for football being Indiana. I think we have to add this piece. At the high school level. There's a player at Knox High School, Miles McLoughlin. He's going for the national career rushing record to beat Derrick Henry. If they continue to win here in the next couple of games, he's probably going to beat it. And he also Dereck Henry also made a comment here recently. I don't know if probably wants to check that out real quick. You can see that. But the second thing is I was wondering we since we came to the Note Dame Show, if you had a chance to try one of the two cigars that I brought you.

00:39:42
Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I tried the Hoya and it was great. That's a great cigar, and thank you, Zach. Yeah, this high school running back, I think he had like six hundred yards in a game something crazy. But we're not including high school football. This is just college in the NFL.

00:40:00
Speaker 10: Yes, Paul, Yeah, Miles McLoughlin, Knox High School, Derrick Henry's record is twelve thousand, one hundred and twenty four yards in four years a high school.

00:40:08
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:40:09
Speaker 2: But this this kid ran for five hundred or something yards twelve thousand, twelve thousand, and he's approaching twelve thousand. I think for his I think he's at twelve thousand in his NFL career. I think Derrick Henry's at twelve thousand.

00:40:23
Speaker 3: Does that sound right? Yeah, he just went over twelve thousand, I think, yes. Marvin and Derek Hamra went to Alabama and Nick Sdavis said, Hey, twelve thousand yards, you're still four string?

00:40:33
Speaker 1: Todd?

00:40:33
Speaker 3: What did you learn today? The playoffield Jackson most witches. He could have had an opportunity to coach Christian Lateness.

00:40:38
Speaker 4: See, you've seen Sam Smith thirty years ago, and we'll see him in another thirty years.

00:40:43
Speaker 3: Yes, when the Bulls win another title. Marvin, would you learn Fresno State football is six and three?

00:40:48
Speaker 2: Yeah? But lost to San Diego State? Though, I believe Paulie, What did you learn?

00:40:52
Speaker 10: Chuck Connors poser?

00:40:55
Speaker 3: What did I learned?

00:40:55
Speaker 5: Todd?

00:40:56
Speaker 3: Did Jets keep building a foundation on top of a foundation? Not a great way to build a house, though, Clayton Kershaw tomorrow, J J. Watt tomorrow, and hopefully you for Fritzie Seaton tomorrow. Paula yours truly, we'll talk to you tomorrow