Takeaways from Every Preseason Week 1 Game!

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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where it was only a matter of time before myself, Greg Rosenthal and Nick Shook talked about all the preseason week one games. We are here late on a Sunday night. Nick Shook drove many hours through the Ohio interstate roads tonight from a wedding.

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Speaker 2: So that we could get it in.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I'm referring a little bit to that Nike ad with Shuder Sanders. We'll get to him, We'll get to all the young quarterbacks who debuted in NFL games this weekend for the preseason. But first I gotta ask you, Nick, and just thank you for our listeners, the dedication and professionalism you have to make this show happen late on the East Coast.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: I was so dedicated to get into the wedding on time that I had to take a detour to avoid traffic and ended up on like this country road with no lines and it was only wide enough for a car and a half and there was just cornfields around me. It was an interesting day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But you made it back.

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Speaker 1: You stayed away from the whatever alcohol was going on at that party, and you're ready to talk now. Usually we go through sixteen teams. On these Sunday nights we do the AFC Tonight, We're doing every single preseason game. So let's get going, and let's start the show by going through all the games with the rookie quarterbacks and the quarterback battles, because to me, that was the most interesting football to watch over the weekend. And let's start with Jackson Dart. I think let's start with that one shook because Jackson Dart I think made a little bit of a move, not just with Brian Dable necessarily and against Russell Wilson, but with me. I watched that game and I was not big on the Jackson Dart pick was not in love with his film overall. And I just said, Okay, I see you, I see you, Jackson Dark, show me more next week. That that's a nice first start and we came off the bench. But first time we've seen him in a Giant's uniform.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually, I think it was Danny Kelly from the Ringer who described him as a point guard passer before the draft, and that's exactly what I saw from this game against the Bills on over the weekend. Like it wasn't just a touchdown pass to little Jordan Humphrey, which I think was just a throw that he put it in the right spot and the receiver went and got the ball as the dB fell down. It was more the throws in between, where you just saw him step up into the pocket with confidence. And he also used his legs and took off for some games there, especially when there was wide open field in front of him, you know, using his instincts to play football. That's what I really liked, that of him not getting overwhelmed by the speed of the game, not trying to do too much. I agree. I think he made a little bit of progress, at least. I think I expected a little bit more from him than you did. But he still made some progress with me in this game too well.

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Speaker 1: We also heard to start camp that he just wasn't getting rid of the ball quickly, and he got over the hump after a handful of days of camp, just like like you want.

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Speaker 2: And you could see it.

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Speaker 1: There were a few plays where he sailed his pass and I saw too much of that in the college tape, and there were a few plays that he was a litle late. I only say that to point out it wasn't a perfect performance, but he had a number of really nice throws, a number of plays that showed athleticism. A number of times he got to his second read the operation was good and hearing Brian Dable talk at the press conference after the game really got my attention. Here's him asked about Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Dart's about what I thought he would do, efficient, effective, aggressive, confident in the pocket, some stuff we can work on, but.

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Speaker 2: He's doing good. Oh, I think he's in love.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard Brian Dable say anything nice about a quarterback in years. At the end of that conversation, by the way, he said, I'm just glad he's with us, and I'm like, oh, that.

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Speaker 2: Was he likes him.

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Speaker 3: Oh, clear the decks, Matt Flynn, Russell Wilson's coming to take your job, except this time it's Jackson Dart taking Russell Wilson's job. We got more preseason to go. But yeah, you know, Dable's usually a pretty frosty guy, so for him to be succinct in his response, but also, you know, confident in what he saw from his guy, I think that does suggest that we might see a little bit more and he might be gaining in that race.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's fighting against whatever version of Russell Wilson we see by week three or so. It would be shocking if Dark got the Week ones start. Although after one week of Seahawks preseason back when Russ was the guy, the conventional wisdom was not him getting that job.

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Speaker 2: So you never know.

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Speaker 1: If the next two weeks he totally balled out, we'll see he as good as he looked, he wasn't the best rookie on the Giants. Abdo Carter had three pass rushes in that game and he had three pressures and two of them are against Dion Dawkins, who was just in the top fifty players in the NFL according to NFL Network, and he just like looked awesome. He's just caught my eye. When Russ was in the game, by the way, it was like a bunch of bombs and mostly checkdowns. I mean, that's all we've heard that he's doing at camp is just like occasional deep shots and checkdown.

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Speaker 2: So it was a lot of checkdowns.

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Speaker 1: Tyrone Tracy really seems like he is the guy there because Cam Skataboo has been out and then for the Bills on the other side, the Giants won this game, by the way, thirty four to twenty five. The big news shook Its just that Sean McDermott admitted he wanted James Cook to play, and James Cook did not want to play. He did put on his uniform, but he hasn't practiced all week, and he's he's probably noticed three other guys in his draft class for the Bills have gotten long term extensions. He hasn't, and so that it's getting pretty awkward there. I'm not sure how this ends.

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Speaker 3: It's also a strange expectation to believe that a guy that is refusing to practice because the contract dispute is suddenly going to play football in a preseason game, and you know where the risk of injury exists, and where he hasn't done anything on the field all week. I thought that was a little bit strange. I also, you know, the longer I think about the whole James Cook situation, I think more about the three down back issue and the pass blocking issue and the allocation of funds for a team that's already over the time right now, and I just think I don't think that that deal gets done. I don't know if they figure out a way to come to terms here before the season starts.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think they're going to pay him. I think they've made that clear and so I'm not sure where it goes. A couple other just items. Joey Bosa played in that game, made a couple of plays. Tradavious White also started at cornerback but did not look good. They have a rookie defensive tackle TJ. Sanders, who's looked pretty good for the Bills. The Mitchell Trubisky versus Mike White backup battle rages on. And one other little note from the Giants. I want to mention this, Montreal Washington's had a good camp. A guy who's bounced around was on the Chiefs practice squad. I think he's going to make this team, and he made a couple plays there. He might be their backup slot. So let's get to the Browns, because your Browns were back in the spotlight. I don't think it's going to happen that much this season shook unless should Sanders start some games, and after his performance on what was that Thursday night Friday night, I think he's got a better chance of starting some games this season. Certainly don't expect that to happen week one, But like Jackson Dart, I think it was a good step in the right direction for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously he's going to be a lightning rod for attention, especially in the preseason when people are looking for things to talk about. And I think the stage he had on Friday night, you know, with the eyeballs on him in a Friday night contest against the Panthers, gave him the opportunity to show what he could do. And I was very much surprised. I was impressed by what he did. I don't know, I just didn't expect all that much. He looked confident. The speed of the game did not overwhelm him. We all saw the touchdown pass the second one, and I thought that was incredibly impressive. In fact, when I was watching that game live, I let out an audible wow, just because the ability to sense an unblocked rusher, trust your running back to slide over and pick him up, reset your feet, keep your head moving through the progression and finding a guy over the middle and letting it rip and throwing it in the right spot down in a way, keep protecting your receiver from the safety. That's stuff that you just typically don't see, if from a guy playing in his first NFL game, preseason or other wise. There was also that throw down the sideline of Luke flore Can't Stay Cold and Flash Baby that was completed because Luke made a great catch. But there was a number of I wouldn't call him splash plays, but plays that you would watch on a clip on social media, highlight reel play that I just didn't expect for him, even though there was a third down play where he evaded the rush and spun backward to avoid two guys got pushed out of bounds by Nick Corton for what registered as a sack. I was just surprised that he was able to extend to play and evade guys, so very much impressed, very very fascinated by how this is going to affect the Browns quarterback situation. Of course, locally, everybody wanted to come up to talk to me about it. This you know, this past two days.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, but what were you saying?

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Speaker 3: She door needs the star, she needs to start, And I'm like, you know, I frankly would like to see him play the entire preseason, because what are you going to get out of and you know, Dylan Gabriel needs to get on the field eventually. I guess Kenny Pickett does. But you know what you have in Joe flaccol, So give shad Or a ton of snaps and really let him prove it. I don't think it affects what they end up doing in week one, but it definitely makes it much more interesting to me, where I thought that they would just be Flaco picket and throw the he'sn't if they had to. It makes it a much more intriguing situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Shoudur is not like any other fifth round pick that we've ever seen. First of all, I can't imagine that Nike has ever thrown up a you know, Twitter ad with Shador kind of with his fist pumped. It says only a matter of time, and that was sent out. If you're watching on YouTube, you can check that out. The uniforms look clean. I know there's another part of this that bothers you shook though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so look, I understand the play on time with the Shador watch celebration everything folks. Social media wise, can we stop capitalizing war letters at the start of words for emphasis? That does it's grammatically incorrect. Time should not be capitalized here, do not do this.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if we need a period, because that's not really a sentence either, only a matter of taw capitalize. I hear you there. So he is different than your average rookie quarterback. But another reason why he's different, and I was talking about this with Daniel Jeremiah last week on Forties and free Agents, was he was the twentieth or twenty second ranked player on Daniel Jeremiah's board, for instance, like he everyone wants to make fun of Mel.

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Speaker 2: Kuiper who had him number one overall. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: It was like a lot of people who know a lot about football, and we're putting everything that came along with Shador and to the side, like thought, like that's a first round quarterback. Maybe it's a late first round quarterback. Maybe it's an early second round quarterback even but like he had real talent. Dylan Gabriel, by the way, one hundred and forty fourth on DJ's board, and everything that we've heard out of training camp is that, yeah, Shouldar just looks like a more talented, ready to go guy. Dylan Gabriel's kind of looked like a disaster by all accounts, and yet they're doing this weird thing. Even though Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel weren't healthy enough to do eleven on eleven's and full team stuff last week, they were just running them through the seven on seven still, even though they're not one hundred percent like ahead of Shuter.

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Speaker 2: It was very weird.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski is a answering questions after the after the game. Doesn't want to give him much more credit. We'll update it through the week, how they adjust the snaps and everything. But you mentioned a couple.

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Speaker 2: Of the great there is.

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Speaker 1: My favorite throw by Shuder was the one out of his own end zone where he absolutely was under pressure, had to make a subtle move inside the pocket and drilled it over the middle with a little bit of anticipation twenty five thirty yards up the field.

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Speaker 2: Great throw.

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Speaker 1: And so there were three or four great throws. There were a couple of groaners too, and like what you know, airmailed one where he's on the move. He's not a great you know thrower on the move always, you know what, he was running backwards taking a sack a couple of times, and avoided a sack one of the times, like he still looked like a rookie. It wasn't an amazing game. I loved what he said afterwards, shook. He said, you know, it was great to be out there. I'd give it a C plus, like there's a lot to work on it. And I was like, I kind of see that. I would adjust it for rookie, you know, grating and make it like.

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Speaker 2: A B B plus.

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Speaker 1: But it like, it wasn't a perfect performance. It just is exactly what you want to see out of a young quarterback, which is, Okay, you're doing some difficult things really well. The mistakes weren't that bad, and you look like you belong like you said, so, I just I just want to see more. I think Flacco should be the starter, and he should basically be the Jackson Dart of this team, fighting against the future Flacco to replace Flacco at some point in the season.

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Speaker 3: I agree, And I don't want to spend too much more time on this because we have a lot of games to get through. But at the same time, I do want to push back on one narrative that kind of took off when it was announced that he was going to start in that game, which is that the Browns were setting him up to fail because they hadn't given him any first team reps. I think it was Mary Kay Cabin who said that's not true at all, because while the Browns have been working with Flacco and picking and Gabriel over here with the ones, twos and threes, Shador has been on the field over on another field, over on the side, with Kevin Stefanski paying very close attention to him, working through his own set of situations with you know, bottom of the depth chart guys. But he's paying more attention to him than an aver rookie or an average quarterback. And I think we saw the benefit of that even in that first game. So again, I'm very fascinated by how this is going to play out. I also caution, you know, don't don't raise the expectation through the room. Yet I.

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Speaker 1: Agree next week might not go as well and then suddenly we'ld just be back to where we are. But there were just little things like looking off the safeties all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Flacco, by the way, said.

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Speaker 1: I played my best football this week in the joint practices against the Panthers, and reportedly Flacco looked pretty good because I got more reps, Like I need more reps. He was pretty clear about that. So to me, it just it feels like you have another joint practice this week. It's like, give Flacco those reps and then give Shador more reps and see what happens. Anything else in this game that that caught your eye. Bryce Young was in this game briefly. A beautiful throw to to Tetuoa McMillan. So any of the teams that threw out some starters that that was exciting. That was a touchdown to Teto McMillan. It was a great improv play by Bryce to Jalen Coker for the improv. So a little bit of like Bryce continuing how he finished last season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think from tet, which I believe his his nickname that everybody wants to not tet. Yes, so t Mac. He made a great play down the sideline. That's his strength. That's what we knew his strength was coming out of college. Middle of the field. I think still need some work. There was an incompletion early in that game where he kind of got alligator armed. Maybe wasn't exactly in the right place at the right time. But I see the potential with him as well. On the brown side, I already mentioned Luke Flouryer, remember Gage Larvonade and the guy that I mentioned last week he had a touchdown on a jet sweep. Keep an eye on him. I think he's gonna make the team. And then the last bit of curiosity from the Browns is like, if you look at this roster we talked about, like, oh, maybe a couple of roster spots, are aren't going to be worried about sacrificing to keep a fourth quarterback. Nick Needham is on this team. Demante Hazes on this team. Nick Needham had an interception. Just weird curious veterans on this depth chart that I kind of just enjoy seeing playing on the field.

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Speaker 2: Those are guys I could imagine making the team. They kind of need more guns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's by the way. The Brownies with a big win. They're feeling good. They were undefeated in the preseason, they.

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Speaker 3: Were undefeated in the Windless season two. They would un defeat in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Ravens twenty nine, Colts sixteen. This is going up this high in the show because of what happened with Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones. Not only did Anthony Richardson leave the game with a pinky injury which was not serious, he was already back at practice on Saturday and Sunday. But Daniel Jones comes in, and Daniel Jones throws for about seven yards per attempt and completes forty seven percent of his passes. Does that remind you of anyone? By the way, seven yards per attempt, forty seven percent of his passes?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I can't think of a name off the top of my head. Who are you leading to?

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Speaker 2: I am alluding to Anthony Richardson like last year?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're right, No one right over my head. I should have known that mixed bag from Daniel Jones. By the way, a couple of nice throws, couple of we I mean when he gets the ball out quick gets all right, a couple of miss communications with guys he loves ad Mitchell and I also am not one hundred percent confident. Then he knows how to execute the RPO on a slant. He did it once successfully, he did it once very poorly. So this is kind of the Daniel Jones that we've come to know over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, maybe I'm just seeing things and I'll watch, you know, the next couple of weeks too. He was so bad after you know, his knee injury coming back last year. We just I thought played with so little confidence that this seemed like incrementally better, maybe just like a little more comfortable in this, Like you just kind of looked back to the older version of Daniel Jones. I'm just saying he made a couple of decent throws. He had, he had a decent pocket feel on a couple of plays. And what Richardson did not being able to see, you know, the the oncoming rusher and changing the protection. It became a whole you know, Twitter story for the week and all the former quarterbacks criticizing him and then some defending him all the My takeaway from that is just like that's the type thing that's gonna get you benched in this battle. That like not being able to finish a game because he's only started fifteen games in the last two years, you know, because he just can't stay on the field, and it's already changed how they're gonna rotate the quarterbacks. That was supposed to be a quarter and a half for Richardson so now next week instead, Daniel Jones will still start Chane Psyken announced Sunday and Get two series, which is actually a decent amount, and then Richardson will come in. So that means Daniel Jones is playing more with the starters. And even though Richardson's getting more time next week, I just think.

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Speaker 2: It's not setting up well. No, Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 3: And Too Series. I know that you're trying to swap the rotation, ever, but Too Serious suggests to me that Daniel Jones is ahead right now. I may be reading too much into it, but it's only I mean, that's usually what you give to a starter or somebody who's leading a competition. You need to see more from the other gund And I know it's because Richardson got knocked out of this game, but right, that doesn't bode well for Anthony Richardson right now?

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Speaker 1: Right And he just like Richardson, just like a couple of times, even in those four places, he had one really nice place, but he just has that Ryan Tannehill thing where he just stands in there, yes, and you and Cam Newton and he just doesn't move. And like those those two guys could take big hits and throw and make it work. Richardson hasn't been able to stay on the field. Tyler Warren just looks like he's gonna be good right away. Ashton Doolan had a nice night. And then the biggest news for the Colts other than Richardson in that game was they lost a rookie cornerback, Justin Wally for this season. It wasn't in the game, but they announced it after the game and he was reportedly, according to James Boyd at the Athletic slated to start, which was news to me, but a third round pick that was expected to start. They have a couple injuries at cornerback, so that is a concern for them. They're a candidate to potentially sign someone maybe a Stefan Gilmour over the.

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Speaker 2: Next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: For the Ravens, didn't play their starters. Keaton Mitchell looked awesome. He is on the comeback trail. They have a really good back field there. And then it's caught my eye that Lamar Jackson's just had like an uneven camp according to the reporters there, and according to Lamar Jackson, he said during the broadcast, we're right where we need to be. I believe him, but reportedly some frustrations on Sunday and that the defense has gotten the better of them quite a bit with just just something to notice, just something to note.

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Speaker 3: YEA, yeah, We'll keep tracking. And I'm not too worried about the team that was incredibly explosive last year.

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Speaker 1: I'm not either, especially now adding Keaton Mitchell to the mix. If you could watch one running back over this weekend, I would suggest Keaton Mitchell because to me, he's a really talented player who who started to pop two years ago. Took him really a full season to get over that. And if he's number three in a good backfield behind Derreck Henry and Justice Silva, just it just gives them even more weaponry. So the Ravens win that game, and the Ravens, you know, they had that long preseason streak, So start a new one. Get another one going, all right, Saints Chargers will be quick on this. I went to the game today. At one point.

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Speaker 2: Late in the first half, it was three to nothing.

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Speaker 1: I think the two teams had combined for about one hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage. It was ugly, and the Chargers end up winning this game because of their defense. But man, the Saints offense couldn't get anything going. We're told that they want to be a running team, and they just could not run the ball at all. Spencer Ratler was their leading rusher today. Nick shook and Rattler, I don't think he did much wrong, but he didn't, you know, score any points. Part of it was they got stuffed, you know, in a couple of runs near the goal line or else he would have. He took a big hit trying to run one in and came up about a yard short on third down. You know, he didn't do much wrong, and then he came out of the game. Tyler Schuck came in a two minute drill, made a couple of nice plays, got them moving down the field and got a field goal out of that. And then the second half he threw a pick six and then threw a long touch down after that. So the thing that takeaway Shuck was much more up and down. Rattler was just kind of you know, shooting for par not very exciting, and I don't think there's much clarity there in their quarterback battle. My sense is that Shuck is like making up a little bit of the ground that he might have lost over the first couple of weeks of camp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll spend some time just kind of pondering their situation today as it related to Derek Carr. And I know it's the preseason and you know your top two or three receivers aren't playing this game, but I'm starting to understand why Derek Carr was sold on retirement, like on walking away from this situation.

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Speaker 2: It's just not nice.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be a pretty situation with this team this year. Hopefully we get a little bit more clarity in the quarterback competition the next couple of weeks.

00:21:42
Speaker 1: Shout out to the woman dew rows in front of me wearing the Derek Carr shirt today.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like that doesn't age well. I just feel like.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't got a new gear. It's still the preseason. She needs time to get some news. Know that the quarterback is going to be.

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Speaker 1: But I just feel like it's not going to be popular with other Saints fans. I have noticed how quiet Trey Harris, the second round pick of the Chargers, have been in these games. Him and KeAndre Lambert Smith both in this game, but couldn't get many catches. Taylor Heineke was absolutely awful. Trey Lance came in and let a touchdown drive that was just all Trey Lance scrambling. So Trey Lance has looked better than Heineke because this is the first we saw Heinekey and it was bad.

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Speaker 2: And I just I was sitting there thinking.

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Speaker 1: And all these people, and I know most of them got in on the secondary market for cheap, but I just kept thinking, like, it's amazing the NFL keeps getting away with this, Right, do.

00:22:37
Speaker 3: I value my job? No? I agree.

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Speaker 1: Now you know what, this one is the easiest take to have because you know who says this all the time. Our boss's boss's boss's boss's boss's boss's boss's boss, Roger Goodell. He always is saying how bad the product is of the preseason Like I'm just like, man, they made they made the people pay full price, like some people over the season ticket holders had to like pay for this game. It's a terrible It's not I mean, I mean there's a little fun things to it.

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Speaker 3: But as long as we're absolved of guilt here. There's been some preseason games I went to when I was in high school that almost every year just got interrupted by like an hour and a half thunderstorm and I'd show up sometimes coming or like grade school, I'd show up after football practice on a Thursday to go watch Browns Giants and it would storm for an hour and a half. Like yeah, I mean, that's the fun in it. The fun it is getting to the second half half the stadium's empty and you don't even know who the hell number forty seven is that just made that great play, Who's probably not going to make the team.

00:23:33
Speaker 2: It's a it's a cool thing for kids.

00:23:34
Speaker 1: I brought my son Walker, and you can get closer than you maybe normally would obviously for cheaper, and it's just laid back and you're just watching some football and it is cool to.

00:23:43
Speaker 2: See how fast it moves up close.

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Speaker 1: So there is part of me that that still loves it, but still amazing they get away with it. The biggest ovation by far of the entire day was when on the JumboTron they showed Keenan Allen, the latest addition to the Chargers wide receiver room alleged, and the other legend they had out before the game was Chargers kicker Nick Novak was.

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Speaker 3: The oh, that's a that's a deep cut, as long as we didn't get another letter from Jim Harbaugh stating the team's intentions, like.

00:24:12
Speaker 1: No, they didn't do that year. I was very curious, good memory from a year ago. Let's take a quick break and we'll speed things up on the other side. But these were these were the quarterback battles.

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Speaker 2: We were.

00:24:26
Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, our first preseason recap show, two More to Go.

00:24:33
Speaker 2: I was sitting there.

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Speaker 1: Watching the Chargers, thinking, man, like their preseason already seems so long. This is this is already their third game. Nick just feels like it's too much. The Hall of Fame game already seems like a while ago. So we started talking about quarterback battles. Our next two games are just young quarterbacks I'm very interested in during the preseason, and that's cam Ward of the Titans and then JJ McCarthy of the Viking. So let's start with the Titans game the buck with a big win against Tennessee. But I liked what I saw for the most part out of cam Ward. Considering the reports out of camp for the Titans this you know, preseason and training camp, I think it was a nice shot of encouragement that he had a solid preseason performance. Again, it's small sample size, it's two drives, but you did have one long touchdown drive that included i would say, three good throws and showed some high level stuff for a first time appearance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The running theme between these next two games is, damn, I wish I saw that young quarterback play a little bit more than he did, because JJ McCarthy didn't play very much in the Minnesota game either. One of those three throws, it almost mirrored his college tape at Miami where he had all day to throw in the pocket and scan the field. And I'm not using this, this is not a negative.

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Speaker 2: But that was not one of my three. By the way, I was like, that was kind of a pass. I'm going to hear you though, all right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And like he surveys and then he makes the right decision, but he does this like hesitation, He like double clutches and then rips a bullet to his intended target for a big gain. And I was like, Okay, there's the arm strength. There's why he was the number one pick, But there's also what I saw at Miami. So again, I just I want to see a bigger sample size. If it were up to me, i'd super sim I'd simulate straight to week one of the of the regular seasons, so I could just see what cam Ward looks like in a live game beyond the preseason but encouraging stuff.

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Speaker 2: I hear you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I could say that for all of this, but we can't. Unfortunately, just sim to the regular season. The three throws I meant were so that. One was the twenty seven yarder to Calvin Ridley, who, by the way, played I believe one series or two series and had fifty yards on three catches, so like he was doing everything. But Ward had another play where he got to his second read pretty quick, like looked outside, then found the guy over the middle, got to it, and then he hit a third and nine and a third and six where he hit guys in stride. They weren't always the first read. It was like time and nothing crazy, but kind of showing different clubs in the golf bag. Whereas Joe Milton, for instance, of the Cowboys, we'll get through them later, Like he's all two.

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Speaker 2: Iron, you know, he's all driver.

00:27:14
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, you know, cam Ward he had one you know where. It wasn't like perfectly accurate, but it was close enough. But he layered it in over like an underneath defender. That was the throw that he need on that And so just nothing major, but liked it.

00:27:32
Speaker 2: Also. TOADJ.

00:27:33
Speaker 1: Spears, who supposedly had having a good camp, the backup running back for the Titans, is out with a high ankle spring. So that is disappointing. And yeah, the bigger takeaways from this game, unfortunately, were injuries. Rashad White Nick is out with a groin injury for a little while.

00:27:51
Speaker 2: Don't know if you had anything else from this game that cut your eye.

00:27:54
Speaker 3: He had a nice run before he went out in that game too. Sean Tucker, my guy who's kind of buried in the depth. He's a situational running back, big bulldozing back. Had a really nice run that almost went for a touchdown. I think it was the next player or two plays later. He scores from like two yards out. That was fun to see. Ameccha Buco tallies his first reception as a Buccaneer, a contested catch. Really nice. I thought that Tennessee got away with pass interference on his other target. The Buccaneers obviously put up a lot of points Kyle trast ripping the ball over the field. But yeah, I mean that's essentially oh one last point. Actually, linebacker Nick Jackson, undrafted linebacker, believe he's out of Iowa. Six tackles, one sack, and one of the most impressive interceptions you're going to see a La TJ. Watt, maybe Aiden Hutchinson off the edge, just ball gets like deflected or whatever. He just puts his one arm up in the air and snags it. If you haven't seen it, watched the highlights from this game. Just for that play, it's worth it.

00:28:44
Speaker 1: Okay, I literally have not seen that play, and I guess this late twenty nine to seven Bucks victory just lost.

00:28:53
Speaker 2: My interest at a certain point.

00:28:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Egbuka making a play. By the way, Kim Ward's out there, the number one offense at least for now is Tyler Lockett number two, Van Jefferson number three in the year twenty twenty five. What are we doing here? What are we doing here? Titans? Let's let those young guys play. That's what the Vikings are doing. JJ McCarthy, you mentioned it not a ton to takeaway from one drive, but Kevin O'Connell was encouraged that the operation was good and I kind of noticed. I was just like, okay, this just like looks like a normal NFL drive And he had one nice throw where he was running to his left. He had one deep out to JJ to Jordan Addison rather which wasn't right on target, but showed some nice anticipation and he ripped it and had a bad throw too mixed in there. Again, it's one drive they got into field goal range, Like, okay, let's move it on and he'll probably play a little bit more now.

00:29:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bad throwt as a drive killer was on third down. He missed a guy that he had open, but he also did with JJ McCarthy did it Michigan, which is pick up a fourth down with his legs. He threw from, you know, multiple different platforms. He another young guy who looked comfortable and all in all, given the small sample size, I think Kevin O'Connell has a reason to be encouraged. Again, I would like to see more, but Kevin O'Connell doesn't like to play most of his guys in the preseason, you know, coming from that Sean McVeagh tree, so probably not going to see a ton of him, but I believe to this point they have reason to be confident that JJ is going to be prepared for, you know, week one as their starter. Yeah.

00:30:27
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, they suffered a major injury in that game to the reserve receiver Rondelle Moore, and we're still waiting, I believe, to get confirmation, but almost immediately the team indicated that it was serious and he was out all of last season as well. He was probably their number four, number five receiver. Lucky Jackson is a former XFL guy who right now is probably your number three receiver in Week one because Jordan Addison is going to be suspended. So that's unfortunate for Rondell More two straight seasons missed because of injuries.

00:31:07
Speaker 2: You hate to see that.

00:31:08
Speaker 1: Sam Howell, by the way, who's been getting picked on a lot by the Vikings reporters that go to practice and has been losing snaps in practice to Brett Rippon played very well in.

00:31:17
Speaker 2: The game, so yeah, just a gamer and Brett in the hell Yeah, so maybe he's got that backup job back.

00:31:23
Speaker 1: I didn't have a ton on the Texans, but I did reach out Nick to our friend Seth Payne just for like a Jalen Noel Jayden Higgins update, because it's been quiet.

00:31:32
Speaker 2: I'm just like, what is going on with them?

00:31:34
Speaker 1: And he noted how Noel had a nice run after catch in this game, that they have been good in practice. He does think Higgins is going to end up starting for this team. So even though I haven't heard a lot, it does feel like those guys are going to be in the spots that you expected going into the season, maybe the third and fourth receiver, and then after that it's it's these guys like John Metchi and maybe Braxton Barrios fighting for spots.

00:31:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:31:59
Speaker 3: I actually felt like Mechi and Barrios took greater advantage of their opportunities in this game. Mechi was the most targets in this receiving core. He seemed to be the most frequent contributor, or at least the most attention paid to by whoever was throwing in passes, whether it was Davis Mills. You continue to go down the depth, Charlie with the Keaton Slovas, but Barrios. You know, it's interesting because when you're trying to build these rosters in these position groups, you think like, can we have balance in different archetypes out here to really fill out our group. And because there's so much uncertainty with how they're going to build out this group going into the season outside of Nico Collins and I guess Christian Kirk, I like the idea of Barrios making this team as just a slot guy that you can do a number of different things with if you want to get creative offensively. He had a good game. He caught a nice pass on the goal line and then barreled in the enz one for a touchdown. Just felt like a strong day that maybe might make the textans say, hmmm, you know, maybe he does deserve a spot on this roster.

00:32:49
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys that will be on a roster.

00:32:51
Speaker 1: I don't know if they could get like a sixth round conditional for him or something like that if he can't make this roster, but he will be on a roster. The offensive line maybe some steps forward. Ursery has caught seth attention again. I'm getting I'm getting information from the man himself, And while I was checking you know, his content out, I was texting him. He had a great interview. I recommend people check out on his YouTube page, Seth Payne with Demiko Ryans, where, among other things, Demiko Ryan says he has gotten all the energy vampires away from the Houston Texans. If you're an energy vampire and you're sucking that energy, I feel that Demiko Ryan's life is too short to energy vampires. He's gotten him, He's gotten him out of the Texans.

00:33:40
Speaker 3: And you know, if you surround yourself with somebody like that, you can feel yourself in getting drained over time. I'm now curious, is that a veiled shot at like like a Stefan Diggs or somebody. I don't know. I'm just I have a couple of notes.

00:33:51
Speaker 2: No, they talked up.

00:33:52
Speaker 3: They seem to like, yeah, okay, okay, I don't know, Okay, maybe energy vampires. I don't know. It's pretty okay.

00:33:59
Speaker 1: The rest of the games don't have as big, big time quarterback takeaways, but we do have a few ties to talk about.

00:34:05
Speaker 2: The Bears and Dolphins played on Sunday. They tied.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: I thought it was noteworthy that the Bears played Colston Lovelin only six snaps, like with the very you know, closest to starters, some starters. There were starters on the offensive line. Like a lot of teams, they mixed, but they didn't start Caleb Williams, but Luther Burden played much more in this game. Braxton Jones was first up at left tackle. They're trying to figure out their left tackle and Luther Burden continues to make place whether it is in practice or in the preseason. You could see that juice that he had on the field against the Dolphins.

00:34:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bit of a rocky outing for the Bears offense overall, but I mean that's what you get when you're rolling with Tyson Bageen, I guess as your first string quarterback in this situation. I would like to go on the Dolphins side real quick, congratulations to Alexander Madison. Not only did they swap you one for one, not in a trade, but by signing you with Raheatm Moster, but they also gave you Raheem Moster's old role, which is goal line vulture. He had a one yard touchdown run in this game, so that was an interesting standout there. And oh, by the way, we talked about this, I think you said this that that Dolphins people that were at Dolphins camp had gotten excited by what they had seen from Quinn. Yours don't put on this tape because Zach Wilson and then compared to Quinn ewrs night and day difference in terms of quality, he has a long way to coach.

00:35:22
Speaker 1: Good for him, which is rough because Zach Wilson went five for nine with four sacks.

00:35:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, well zero.

00:35:30
Speaker 1: Five for eighteen with two sacks taken in two fumbles, and it continues a weird week for the Dolphins. Jordan Brooks and a teammate fought at practice in Chicago. And then, more importantly, maybe the most interesting thing I saw all week was that the Bears felt like they dominated that joint practice with the Dolphins, especially the Bears defense, who picked off to three times. I don't think Tua necessarily would have started this preseason game, but they had such a bad joint practice they sent them out there even without Tyreek Hill and Jalen wattall ready to play. And by the way, their first drive gets all the way to the end and then it gets stuffed in the goal line. On four straight runs, three of them right near the goal line, and that's bringing up all the bad memories for the Dolphins. They did cash in later, but when Tua was in it was like their old short yardage. You know, woes are right there. But from the Bear side, the Bears players said on Tuesday it was their own practice. It was the most intense practice in ten years in Chicago, most intense practice ever. They were all fired up, and then when they came out for the joint practice, both sides reportedly played really well. And so maybe it's a little bit of that offense, especially in the team in general under Ben Johnson, kind of turning a corner.

00:36:46
Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting how coordinators take on the traits of the coaches they used to work under, because Ben Johnson is pulling right from the Dan Campbell playbook with his entire camp with the Bears, including that super intense practice that they had on Tuesday. Beat reporters were going to social media as soon as it was over, saying, I've never covered to practice this intense in my career, and I'm like, whoa wait a second year and they all acted, you know, all the players, oh, business as usual, We're just out there competing. But it was to prepare them for the joint practices and then prepare them for what they were going to see on the field in their preseason game, and that goal line stand kind of told me it's kind of working. There's a lot of gusto out of this camp about, you know, forming an identity around toughness, it seems, which is very much right out of the Campbell playbooks. So I'm really curious to see how does this look in the first portion of the regular season.

00:37:29
Speaker 2: Me too, I like what I'm hearing.

00:37:32
Speaker 1: We'll see the kleb of it all, will see if he plays much in the preseason or not. But they sat him this week, and we've said it a lot of times on this show. The joint practices in a lot of ways have replaced the preseason games for some teams. Although you are seeing just a little bit of an uptick in preseason play from some like a to that normally aren't aren't playing in the preseason.

00:37:58
Speaker 2: Just a little bit of an uptick. He saw around the league this week.

00:38:01
Speaker 1: I thought for some veterans, the Broncos and forty nine Ers played a football game. The Broncos won that game thirty to nine, and I saw some Broncos fans honking, like, all right, we're looking awesome. I mean, give me a break. You were down nine to nothing with bow Knicks against the Bronco against the forty nine ers backups. I actually watched that.

00:38:20
Speaker 3: Bonnicks got flagged for a safety in the end zone because of a penalty.

00:38:25
Speaker 2: Was starting off.

00:38:25
Speaker 3: It didn't look great, guys.

00:38:27
Speaker 2: I mean it didn't really.

00:38:28
Speaker 1: None of this matters that much the results, but you are watching the process, watching who plays first, and yeah, for what it's worth, when bo Nix was in there, it was a punt, a safety. He almost threw an interception. He threw eleven passes for thirty one yards. They were down nine to nothing, and they tried to leave him in to leave on a more positive note. And I think he did lead a field goal drive, but you know they didn't. They didn't cash it in. And that was all against backups of the forty nine ers, who only even left their backups and for a couple of drives. Mac Jones had ay a fifty yard throw to Jordan Watkins, the great touchdown drive on their first drive. He played one more drive and then the forty nine ers I don't think they like crossed the fifty the rest of the game, like they're.

00:39:10
Speaker 2: Now for for real, They didn't score another point.

00:39:13
Speaker 1: I don't think they crossed the fifty the rest of the game after that that.

00:39:17
Speaker 3: It's very fun in preseason action, how once guys cycle in and out, how the pace of the game can just change immediately. Like Jared Stidham shot to Stitty comes in with a fourteen for fifteen, one hundred and thirty six yard, two touchdown performance, all that experienced from his past in the NFL shining in the preseason. But that's the type of stuff that happens in preseason games. It was interesting through a touchdown pass to Trent Sherfield, former forty nine er catch and touchdownass Levice, there you.

00:39:43
Speaker 2: Go was nice.

00:39:45
Speaker 1: Sehn Payton said after the game, there's fourteen things I'm ticked off about related to this trip and nothing have none of them have to do with the game. That was a mystifying statement to me. Everyone in the Broncos organization is worried. What is he so ticked off about that has nothing to do with the game. I had something to do with, like the trip, the operation likes.

00:40:12
Speaker 3: You know. Maybe the postgame meal under this in the battles of Levi Stadium wasn't good.

00:40:16
Speaker 2: He was he was good.

00:40:18
Speaker 1: He said he was ticked off. R. J. Harvey I thought didn't look great. He is reportedly the RB two behind JK. Thobbin's not a big deal, but it was like a little indecisive sometimes with these running backs. You see him in the preseason, You're like, oh, I see it, But that didn't happen for him. I mentioned that that long throat to Watkins. MIKEL Williams got hurt at forty nine ers camp. Uh, and he's going to be out a week. And then a couple of their defensive tackles who you know they want to step up, Alfred Collins and CJ.

00:40:47
Speaker 2: West had had very quiet games. Uh.

00:40:50
Speaker 1: It played a lot and really didn't make much of an impact, so they want to see some improvement there. Let's go to the Eagles and the Bengals, and I'm going to lead this game talk with something that didn't happen to this game. It happened Sunday with the Eagles. Unfortunately, Landon Dickerson left practice on a cart. Was their team scrimmage at the stadium, and we will see what happens there. But that is the bedrock of their team, their offensive line and They're already starting a new guard, Tyler Steen, on the right side, so they obviously, Nick just you know, are hoping for the best for Landon Dickerson.

00:41:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dickerson has been one of the constances as they've cycled out, you know, into your offensive lineman, especially over the last fe year, Jason Kelsey retiring and replacing them accordingly, and like you said, Steen coming out right guard to replace mkayvec and it's he's the guy that you can definitely count on to get the job done, one of the better guards in the NFL. So not good news for them. We obviously know what they have at tackle. It's just this is the strength of their team is in their trenches and it builds out from there, especially in the defensive side, but offensively, losing a guy like that, Yeah, definitely concerns you at this point in the season. I mean we're in the preseason right now.

00:41:58
Speaker 1: That's why you're a pro. I mean, I know you were driving back for the wedding when that happened. There's no clue. I don't think that you were aware of that until I just threw it on you.

00:42:07
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, and I actually blanked on the name of Cam Jurgens until I just looked it up right now, And I don't know how I blanked on him because he was my favorite gender at that combine.

00:42:15
Speaker 1: No, but you you already you know I know to talk about this barn burner, thirty four to twenty seven, Eagles get to win. I mean, Tanner McKee is that dude. I made a joke on Twitter last week when Nate Tice, my friend was wondering. He's like, why didn't the Browns just get Tanner McKee? And he said this a week ago, like it was insane that they gave up something for Kenny Pickett. Why didn't they get Tanner McKee. I was like, Tanner McKee was untouchable. Tanner McKee is that dude. I was only half kidding. I think the Eagles love Tanner McKey. I know he was behind Pickett last year, but he has only been awesome when he's played, and then when he played in that Eagles game, and I think it was his first throw, certainly his first touchdown to AJ Brown, like he just went for it, touched timing, Like I really like, I think he's a guy that I'd feel confident in running that system. And he was awesome in this game, for what it's worth. Against the Bengals starters. The Bengals had what happened you don't want in the preseason shook, which is that your starters got steamrolled by the other team's backups. Which is what happened to them. They're starting defensive players got steamrolled by the Eagles offensive backups.

00:43:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's concerning, considering that all the talk in Bengals camp was this defense might actually be good, right, and then Tanner McKee lights you up. Not great for them. It's I keep thinking about the difference in appearance between Jalen Hurts and Tanner McKee and how they could both operate that offense.

00:43:43
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, you know what, they did a touchbush though they finished the drive with the toll.

00:43:47
Speaker 3: He's got five more inches on him to get it across the goal line. So that doesn't shock me.

00:43:52
Speaker 1: He's a tall dude, it kind of does. It doesn't shock me, but you knew it was Nick Sirianni. Just like it's the first, you know, drive of the defending champions.

00:44:04
Speaker 3: And after they win the tush pushkase exactly.

00:44:06
Speaker 1: He just wanted to I mean they do have a lot of tall guys on this team. Johnny Wilson six' seven just had a, beautiful Like moss type of play where he just plucked it over who was it? Was it was Dj ivy of The, bengals who was like five to.

00:44:21
Speaker 2: Eleven it's.

00:44:22
Speaker 1: Amazing he had a twenty seven and twenty eight yard. Play the two starting cornerbacks for The eagles did not look good in this game at, All Adorri jackson Or Keeley. Ringo the problem was they were playing The bengals starting. Offense it doesn't go much better for wanting to Play Joe burrow in the, preseason Just Jamar chase totally, dominant going up and down the field like highlight reel. Throws burrow goes nine for. Ten so it's very similar to a Year. Agook it was like awesome, offense awful, defense and special teams was the.

00:44:53
Speaker 2: Difference and they.

00:44:54
Speaker 3: Lose AND i hate that idea BECAUSE i JUST i deep in my heart In, cleveland but there's NOTHING i want more right now than For Zach taylor's team to start the season on the right foot because they just don't do it. Right and they can do it offensively AND i know it's the, preseason but is your defensive. Start get, together, defense get this thing together Before week one.

00:45:15
Speaker 1: Please so The bengals are part of the trend to, play you, know some more good players at the start of the. Preseason AND i really do Think Chase, brown they're running, back who looked awesome in this, game and it's just sort Of donnie on. Everyone what a monster season he has set up for. That to, me he's like a first round in fantasy. PICK i know he won't go, there but he could. Be Jamar stewart's looked really. GOOD i think they need to play him a little more with the. Ones let's go to The jets and The. Packers jets Thirty packers Ten jets looking exactly like they said they were gonna.

00:45:56
Speaker 2: Look run.

00:45:56
Speaker 1: First they just ran through The packers and The packers we're playing a lot of, STARTERS i, believe on both sides of the, ball and they were just they were just pushing him like six yards. Back so it was everything that The jets said they were going to. Do they just they just ram the ball down their. Throats it was it was justin fields. Scrambling it Was Brailn allen a little bit Of Breee, hall AND i thought the starters on both sides of the, ball for what it's worth for The, jets looked pretty.

00:46:22
Speaker 3: Good what have we talked about the fact that The jets are one of my sneaky teams to watch out BECAUSE i think there's going to be more professional, operation AND i think it's going to start with the. Toughness and how do you prove your? Toughness you went on the, ground and they have the backs to do, it they have invested in the offensive line to do, it and then they have a quarterback who can do it when he finds space to run for a thirteen yard. Touchdown obviously it's just the, preseason BUT i was pretty excited to, see you, know this, performance especially earlier in the game from you, know a good portion of their starters and to have the ability down the depth chart to still run the ball pretty. EFFECTIVE i, mean, like look at the number of guys that had carries in this game and then just like forty two, yards thirty three, yards seventeen, yards fourteen, yards like minimal, carries just spreading it among a bunch of different. PEOPLE i like this. Idea I'm i'm really really fascinated by this. TEAM i JUST i simply AM.

00:47:10
Speaker 1: I was amazed looking at some of the practice reports on The athletic this week That Alan lazard said this is the most talented group of receivers he's ever played.

00:47:23
Speaker 2: WITH i, mean that.

00:47:24
Speaker 3: Is this is biggest concerned about, RIGHT.

00:47:27
Speaker 1: I, mean that is the biggest bald faced Lie i've ever. HEARD i, MEAN i don't maybe he believes. It, everyone you, know you convince yourself into. THINGS i don't even know If Alan lizard is he definitely on this. Team he was in a sling by the way after the game because of a shoulder, injury but he was playing with the. Backups he hasn't done. Much they're not gonna be great because of their wide. Receivers But Brandon, stevens who is, starting by the, way that the Former raven at, cornerback really struggled with The ravens last. Year according to the people, there has had a great training, camp so that's good to. Hear some bad news for The, Packers aid And, reid according to their Coach Matt, lafleur is uncertain For week. One he was in a walking boot at practice over the, weekend so that's unrelated to the. Game he did not play in the, game but it was you, know unknown previously that he was so banged, up and so that's really bad, news and it means more more On Matthew, golden who had a couple of nice reps in this. Game Jordan, love by the, way you, know playing your starters doesn't mean it's gonna.

00:48:25
Speaker 2: WORK i think he went on didn't work for. Them a couple of, drops just.

00:48:30
Speaker 1: A couple of, weird weird plays. There but, yeah bad news there For Jayden. Reid it sounds like he's a little iffy for for the.

00:48:36
Speaker 3: Opener, yeah they looked like offensively With love on the, field they looked like a bit of a disjointed. Operation but, Yeah i'm more concerned about this group, because, look you finally spent a first round pick on a receiver In Matthew. Golden but you know That Christian watson is out for a, while if, not you, know most of the, season AND i mean after, that it's If reed's, heard It's, golden It's, dobbs It's Dantavian. Wicks who's you, know hit or, missed depending on the situation that you find him In Savan williams, Like, Yeah i'm a little bit concerned about this group. Overall that's not a loss that you can just weather without a.

00:49:10
Speaker 1: Decline, yeah and there's been a bunch of banged up players. Too The Bowl meltain thing is, Happening so he's not Quite Travis hunter Bow. Melton if you're just tuning in receiver for The, packers who has changed positions to cornerback and he's out there playing real cornerbacks spots and, reportedly according To Matt schneiderman at The athletic is a lock to make the. Roster probably has like a fourth or fifth cornerback and it doesn't hurt that he has wide receiver, flexibility but just cool that we have one of those guys back in the. League also a fourth round pass Rusher Baron surrell making some, noise having a good. GAME i just wanted to have one positive thing to say about The packers before we went To Rams, cowboys AND i said something positive about Mister August Stetson. Bennett one of the REASONS i went to This Saints chargers game shook is Because i've Seen Stetson bennett too much live over the last two years and it's been so, bad and it was a treat to turn on my television and watch the greatest preseason trio broadcast team in all of.

00:50:18
Speaker 2: SPORTS.

00:50:19
Speaker 1: Jb, Long Maurice, Jones drew And Mina. Chimes and Maybe i'm, BIASED i don't, Care i'm. Right and you know WHAT i took away other than just enjoying their, BROADCAST i, Mean Stetsan bennett looked like a whole new player that was by far the best he's ever looked at AN nfl. Uniform sometimes maybe with a little bit of, patience we'll, see but he actually might become like a solid backup for them or something because he was he was spinning it easily the best he's ever looked.

00:50:45
Speaker 3: For let's not forget like a third of a third quarter From sean, McVay you, know joining the broadcast live from the.

00:50:50
Speaker 2: Side oh, yeah he's.

00:50:51
Speaker 3: On let's not forget. That you, know before he passed it off because he had to handle a coaching. Duty, yeah you. Know Stetsan bennett's game reminded me a lot of His georgia, tape which is at you're kind of living on the razors edge at. Times it's a it's a little, like, oh hold on to the edge of your, seat but it's also.

00:51:07
Speaker 2: Dime.

00:51:07
Speaker 3: Okay he threw some nice. Balls he threw a great pass on fourth down down the, sideline an incredible catch that had to be, reviewed stood upon, review and then they handed To Blake corn to finish it. Off Blake corn had two rushing touchdowns in this. Game it was a really strong start from this. Offense just. Overall they dominated The cowboys in the first like twenty minutes of this. Game now there's two sides to this coint of, course Because Joe milton's on the other side struggling to get anything going with that offense and most of The cowboys. Backups BUT i was very impressed by WHAT i saw from The, rams and, yeah maybe he will be a healthy. Backup they Have Jimmy garoppolo seated Behind Matthew. Stafford right. Now we know the Whole Matthew stafford, situation the pregame workout over the, weekend you know that sort of. Thing that's, good that's good progress, Progress but long, TERM i don't. Know maybe or maybe he'll just be a preseason star. Forever who.

00:51:53
Speaker 1: Knows Maybe stafford will practice in some form On, monday like you, mentioned went through a.

00:51:59
Speaker 2: Workout.

00:52:00
Speaker 1: YEAH i saw a little clip Of dak before the game talking To rams Owner Stan kronk Stan kronki and he, said we'll see you in THE nfc title. Game it's, Like, OKAY i guess it's just one of those things you.

00:52:12
Speaker 2: SAY i like. THAT i like. It they're gonna believe in.

00:52:15
Speaker 1: Yourself Cavante turpin had the night, off which to me kind of, Said, okay he's their third. Receiver Joe milton you, mentioned started this. Game he's the backup now Former New England. Patriot they would have had the number one overall, pick Likely Travis, hunter Maybe Abdulla carter if not For Joe milton playing very well against The bills backups In week. Eighteen some of his throws in this game were. CRAZY i mean they were. Crazy they were, like he has such a strong, arm but he uses that strong arm on every single throw and it was kind of, rough to be. Honest but, yeah he made up for it in the second half and, started you, know scoring some points against against The rams like deep.

00:53:02
Speaker 2: Backups but but, yeah.

00:53:04
Speaker 3: YEAH i think the the one throw that maybe typifies Where Joe milton is in his career right now with the arm strength being his greatest. Attribute is when he dropped back on second and, SEVEN i, think and launched a rocket into the end zone into double coverage for an. Interception like there are there were times WHERE i think his best play that he made this game was on a readoption where he took off for a first. Down, yeah it was not The Joe milton we, saw but The patriots throwing the ball in the first. Half the second half he started to settling against lesser. Competition but For cowboys, fans who you, know we're banging the table and celebration, that oh my, god we finally got a backup with some legit upside because we Got Joe milton from The Patriots and look at that tape from that week. Eighteen cool your. Jets, okay this is, yeah for, sure for, sure but you got a lot of.

00:53:51
Speaker 1: HELP i would probably Take Cooper rush to win a game right now over, him but we'll see a kyer ELIM i noticed also sat for this game because he's so locked in as they're starting. Cornerback so that's just the Former bills first round. Pick Mazzie smith continues to, struggle former first round pick for The, cowboys it just seems like he might he might be coming to the end of his. Time and it really struck me that When Daniel jeremiah last week was At cowboys And rams. Practice he's so polite about, everything the way he says, things but he said that the one group in that game that needed some, Work like in the joint. Practice you, know The rams offense looked, amazing and The rams defense is flying, around and The cowboys offense they made some, plays but That cowboys, defense like he said it in a very humble, way just like they got some things to work. ON i was just, like, yes that's, like that's a dig From Daniel. Jeremiah let's go to The cards and The, chiefs another team playing a guy in the preseason that really hasn't played much in the, Past Kyler. Murray And Kyler murray threw a number of really nice, throws averaged over eleven yards per, attempt and had maybe the worst interception of the entire, weekend Including Joe. Millton and yet after the game he had a great attitude about.

00:55:13
Speaker 4: It you, know again they, say you, KNOW i haven't played in the PRESEASON a long. Time i've really enjoyed playing to. Night you, know you, know it kind of just just football's here. Again you, know it's the best time of the year to be able to go out there and just be out there with the.

00:55:25
Speaker 2: Guys maybe it's not football is, back but football is here. AGAIN i just heard. THAT i like. THAT i like the.

00:55:31
Speaker 3: ATTITUDE i almost sensed a little bit of sarcasm in the way that he said really enjoyed playing tonight with that, Smile like even, NO i think.

00:55:38
Speaker 2: He was, serious, MAN i think he was. Serious that's not.

00:55:41
Speaker 3: Nice, yeah he finished the game perfect after throwing that, pick which was. Nice he was he was kyler that he was what you expect from, me except that, interception WHICH i, Mean i'd started laughing WHEN i saw it happen live just because it was, like where was that ball? Going but that happens this. Preseason you have time to work that out on the quarterback front with the with the rest of this, Game Gardner minshew Replaced Patrick mahomes after The chiefs needed like two plays to score because The cardinals fumbled their opening. Kick minshew Is, minshew AND i see why they added. Him he is still the same. Guy who can still make a play here and, there and also again hanging on the edge of your seat a little. Bit but the last THING i was really looking for from The chiefs was some clarity in the offensive. Line not a lot of snaps for their starting. Five Josh simmons only played ten, snaps SO i don't think we're gonna get a lot of a sample size from them this. Preseason they were running in a lot of different, guys especially at right tackle later in the. Game you, know it's fun to watch as they try to figure this, Out BUT i think they're pretty close to figure out s four of their starting five at this, point maybe three so Far, Simmons, Humphrey Tray, smith and Then, yeah but we're gonna wait and see what the rest of this. Happens just didn't get a lot of sample from.

00:56:51
Speaker 1: Them, yeah And simmons was great in the ten ten snaps he. Had they'll play more next. Week Andy reid always plays the. Starters you gotta love if you're The chiefs, offense hearing you're gonna get one drive and then that drive happens to start at the whatever twelve yard line or. Something Patrick mahomes with an incredible one for. ONE i think it was like a three yard touchdown a one yard. Touchdown it was an awesome grab by the way By Jason, brownlee who is battling for a playoff, SPOT i mean a roster spot both him And Taekwon, thornton like could be as high as you, know the third or fourth receiver if these injuries don't shake. Out Rashide rice's suspension is still expected to come at some. Point Jalen, watson by the, way their starting cornerback had a. Concussion Christian fulton is still coming back from an injury this, offseason so they're a little thin at cornerback right. Now and another part of That kyler presser that caught my, attention he, said this is the Best i've ever felt in an.

00:57:47
Speaker 2: Offense i'll take. IT i just LIKE i just like.

00:57:52
Speaker 1: It we got like we've Got kyler really. EXUDING i love football this year for whatever reason for a guy that maybe some people thought was like a little a loof in the.

00:58:01
Speaker 2: Past SO i don't know if something's, changed well we.

00:58:04
Speaker 3: Know what the situation's. CHANGED i, mean this is kind of approved year for him with his. Organization, sure so that would explain. It by the, way they were a little sloppy to. Start they had three penalties for thirty two yards in the first eighteen minutes of this, game and obviously we talked about the fumbled opening kickoff return that put them in a seven nothing hole. Immediately they did kind of figure it out and finished pretty. Strong but, again it's a preseason. Games how much do you take away from? That interesting note to, ME. Lj collier seems like he's probably fighting for a roster. Spot he was playing in the third quarter of this, game but he recorded a, sack, so you, know nice little feather in the cap.

00:58:37
Speaker 2: THERE i would say that's a bad.

00:58:39
Speaker 3: Sign, yeah, Former, yeah playing the third quarter is a bad.

00:58:41
Speaker 1: Sign, yeah, right anyone playing the second, half especially this first, week it's not a great.

00:58:46
Speaker 2: Sign let's go To Steelers.

00:58:48
Speaker 1: Jaguars steelers twenty, One jaguars twenty or thirty one to twenty. Five big win for The. Steelers let's just get right to the biggest news of the. Day cam little hit a seventy yard. FEEL i don't care that it was the. Preseason this is the new. Record it counts as the. Records but it's not like the kick would be any harder in the regular. Season it's not like he, oh well he did it against. Backups, no he nailed that.

00:59:15
Speaker 2: Thing that WAS.

00:59:18
Speaker 1: I saw that AND i was, like, wait seventy, wait that's my what LIKE i it's freaking. Amazing Kim Kim, Little you're gonna be one of the best kickers in the. League nice rookie season By Cam little last, year by the, way, awesome you somehow took Away Travis hunter being the top story in this, game a game WHERE i top five pick played over you, know ten snaps on both sides of the.

00:59:43
Speaker 2: BALL i, mean that's.

00:59:43
Speaker 1: Ridiculous it's just ridiculous that he's already doing. THIS i, mean people are already getting.

00:59:48
Speaker 2: Used to, it but it's.

00:59:49
Speaker 1: Ridiculous he had a couple short, catches he had another catch taken away by.

00:59:53
Speaker 2: Penalty nothing really.

00:59:54
Speaker 1: Happened he played two series at cornerback after, that so he played offense first and and he played. Defense no one threw at him at. Cornerback but it's just it's just cool that this thing's actually, happening full fullit in, Ahead he's gonna play both.

01:00:09
Speaker 3: SIDES a little inside baseball moment, HERE i BELIEVE i don't know if it's been fixed since, then but. Live Travis hunter was listed as a receiver in Next, gen wasn't listed as a. Corner, luckily he didn't get thrown, at SO i didn't really get to test this. Out BUT i was, like Oh, god what if he's in coverage and there's no numbers for him because he's listed as a. Receiver it's.

01:00:27
Speaker 2: Good it's Like.

01:00:27
Speaker 3: Madden madden came up with a new ability for him this. YEAR i think it's called Iron. Man it's exclusive to him because he PLAYS.

01:00:33
Speaker 1: Brac what if what if you're in a in a fantasy league that has points for tackles and interceptions like some people do the individual defensive.

01:00:43
Speaker 2: Players so Does Travis hunter count as just one? GUY i would?

01:00:46
Speaker 1: Think so you don't have to draft Sho Hey otani in fantasy as like a pitcher and a, Hitter, right he just counts as?

01:00:52
Speaker 2: ONE i?

01:00:52
Speaker 1: THINK i don't, Know uh so that's that's what they should. Do it was very Interesting travis etn got all the reps with the starters And Trevor. Lawrence Trevor LAWRENCE i thought looked solid in this.

01:01:03
Speaker 2: Game.

01:01:04
Speaker 1: Weird Eric armstead still hasn't come back from his, injury might not Play week. One Breton, strange who supposedly has had a really big camp is there tight end one for The jaguars and had a big play in this. Game AND i noted our Friend john Ship shipley Said Parker. Washington he was trying to pick who has had the breakout summer of anyone on this, team and he Thought Parker, washington who's their third receiver slot guy mostly And Trayvon. Walker he thought we're the two best players so.

01:01:32
Speaker 3: Far interesting That walker commented a few days ago about money doesn't motivate him because he's essentially playing for his next contract right. NOW i actually like. THAT i think that being motivated by production when you're a former number one overall pick is probably more important than. Money so that's something to keep an eye. On is this his year that he really delivers after falling short of.

01:01:52
Speaker 2: Getting better and better though it's been a steady.

01:01:54
Speaker 3: Close, yeah but it's not when you're drafted Before Aiden hutchinson and Then Aidan hudgson becomes who Is they're always going to hold. That, again The Parker washington. THING i love little, receivers especially once who come From Big ten schools that nobody really knows, about and then they make a few plays like one season and suddenly they're the heart throb of that local fan. Base so good for.

01:02:11
Speaker 1: Him, well they really would be deep because they Have Diami, brown, remember and Then Travis hunters at wide, receivers so that that's a nice group If Brenton strange is better at tight end With Brian Thomas. Junior the touchdown By Darnell washington in this game was just, LIKE i Love Darnell. Washington it's like a sixth offensive. Lineman he's just a, beast and it looked like him going up against, ME i mean a cornerback that he like just bodied for position was like five, eleven one, eighty but compared To Darnell, washington he just looked like a little. Midget we got to do more with With Darnell washington in the year twenty twenty. Five and then, finally my last point on this game. SHOOK i just want to love something in my life as much As Pittsburgh steelers porters Love Mason rudolph and and swear he's the best backup quarterback in the.

01:03:05
Speaker 3: LEAGUE i, mean, YEAH i mean this is a guy who's curried a lot of favor with them over the, years especially when he had to step in when they didn't have anybody at quarterback a few years. Ago he, left he came. Back he's on The Tredavious white path back to the town that loves. Him if you Watch Hard knocks last, week he saw plenty of, that but he also was overshadowed BY i cannot Believe i'm saying, this and this the year of Our lord twenty twenty Five Skyler thompson's three touchdown passes in two thirty three. Yards i'm gonna, yeah, yeah let's move. On i'm not even gonna go.

01:03:41
Speaker 1: Further Caleb, johnson by the, way their rookie running back ten, TOUCHES i think twenty six yards and ten touches and targets combined to, that that's not. Ideal let's move on to The seahawks and The, raiders our second tie of the. Week this was back On thursday. Night The raiders Starter Gino ashton genty were barely out, there but they did not get anything. Done if you wanted a takeaway from The, seahawks probably That Tory, horton Who Daniel jeremiah shouted out last week on forties and free agents kept that momentum, going like.

01:04:17
Speaker 2: He is a.

01:04:18
Speaker 1: Story he looks like he's emerging as a receiver for, them and it just looks like A Clint kubiak offense or A Gary kubiak offense full back under center play. Action so you just kind of like saw what The seahawks are gonna look.

01:04:31
Speaker 2: Like that was about.

01:04:32
Speaker 1: It but the first the first, teamers at least On seattle, Side i'm getting my sides. Confused With gino coming back there And Pete, carroll it's just like they're all just seemed like one team.

01:04:40
Speaker 3: Here oh, yeah that is kind of. WEIRD i. Know there was some attention paid to how they greeted the fans when they came out of the. Tunnel google it if you're.

01:04:49
Speaker 1: Interested, Yeah gino flipped off someone who had a sign that said like who's the biggest bust IN nfl, history Like JaMarcus russell Or Gino. SMITH i was, like first of, ALL i Thought seahawks fans kind of Loved gino for the most.

01:05:04
Speaker 2: Part second, one like that's an insane he didn't trade.

01:05:07
Speaker 3: Himself.

01:05:09
Speaker 1: Well, Also Gina smith just played very well for you for a few. Years like he's not even and he was a second round. Pick like obviously it's almost silly to factually go after this, poster But Gino smith was a second round pick who just played at like a pro bowl level for the last three.

01:05:28
Speaker 2: Years compared to, yeah shut, Up i'll shut. Up. CHANGE i wasn't going to bring that, up but you brought it.

01:05:33
Speaker 3: UP i, mean, YEAH i had to bring it up because that was my biggest memory from this experience that happened In seattle over the. Weekend that's where we are in the. Preseason that's where we. Are change, uniform and your fans that used to love, you they loved your SoundBite On Monday Night, football now they hate.

01:05:47
Speaker 1: You Jalen milroe had like a twenty seven yard run in this, game like it was, nothing so just.

01:05:54
Speaker 3: That was his greatest strength In. Alabama put a foot in the ground and take.

01:05:56
Speaker 1: Off and then THE i don't know if there's A qb two for The, raiders But aidan O'Connell had two just awful. Interceptions and Then Cam, miller WHO i know nothing about really but was hand picked in part By Tom, brady was A Tom brady approved sixth round quarterback comes in and is great, late you, know gets him back in the, game has to do a quick drive to give him a. Chance it gets blocked at the, buzzer but at least it got. Close maybe this is the start of A Tom brady like.

01:06:29
Speaker 3: Career By, well he was picked later Than Tom, brady picked two. Fifteen. Greg if you could guess any school that he's, from could you just pick?

01:06:36
Speaker 2: One, WELL i read.

01:06:37
Speaker 1: About it like twice this, weekend and YET i still can't remember off the.

01:06:41
Speaker 3: Time it's the home Of Trey, Lance North Dakota.

01:06:43
Speaker 2: State, okay actually that's a quarterback. Factory.

01:06:48
Speaker 1: Yeah Dante, thornton by the, way for The raiders kind of set as their. Starter and then there was like a part of this game where there were three linebackers on the field for The, raiders or at least on the depth it looks, like and the three linebackers Are Jermaine, Pratt Devin, white.

01:07:03
Speaker 2: And the land And.

01:07:04
Speaker 1: Roberts And i'm, thinking, like what year is? This, yeah and that you're playing three. Linebackers Jamal adams had a good. GAME i don't.

01:07:11
Speaker 3: Know Pete carroll, Said Devin white's back, so, yeah prove it to, Me.

01:07:16
Speaker 2: Devin.

01:07:16
Speaker 3: Yeah THE i think The Jamal adams, edition by the, way is probably the Most Pete carroll moved that The raiders have made since he's taken.

01:07:22
Speaker 2: Over and he was flying around. There i'm happy for.

01:07:26
Speaker 1: Him it would be nice for him to just have a nice season as like a useful player for, them because he was a great player whose career went on the skids so. HARD i did not think he was going to get another job in THE, nfl But Pete carroll at least given him a. Chance all, right let's Talk lions Seventeen falcons. Ten the big takeaway from this, game, unfortunately Was Maurice, norris the player for The lions who the game was suspended for because he was out on the field the game. Stopped, eventually he was put on a stretcher and. Left details were not, forthcoming but When Dan campbell said after the, game very emotional That morris was breathing and had all his feeling, extremities the phrase breathing really struck me, there AND i think everyone was just very worried in the. Moment and it's a very strange scene where at first The lions And falcons were like running clock just to have the game, end and then THE nfl stepped in and just did end the. Game so it sounds like he's. Better he's been talking with his teammates from the, hospital and you, know we just wish him a full.

01:08:41
Speaker 2: Recovery and there weren't a.

01:08:43
Speaker 1: Lot of other like huge takeaways for me football wise in this. Game Nick Kyle allen is the backup quarterback right, NOW i think for The lions Because Hendon hooker just kind of can't get it. Going he started this game and he had a couple of.

01:08:55
Speaker 3: Fumbles alan threw a really nice touchdown pass To Isaac, taslaw who is probably one of my favorite guys out of this rookie. Class he looked good in both of his pre season games so. Far he's A lions, fan which is always fun to like match the the diehard fan with their team when they become a. Pro he had a really nice touchdown. Grab two catches raighting, yards but the touchdown. GRAB i keep an eye on. HIM i think that he's going to. Contribute, YEAH i think he's gonna find ways to contribute off especially first year post Ben. Jhonson just keep an eye on.

01:09:23
Speaker 1: Him it's it's it's easy to just like bring up some some tape at this time of. Year it's just, Like, OH i want to go see What Isaac taslod did this. Week, oh it's only two. Targets let's go watch your three. Targets go watch. It OH i want to watch Cam Ward. STAR i didn't watch that. Live oh nine? Dropbacks boob pressed the button all. Right that it takes like five.

01:09:43
Speaker 2: Minutes it's.

01:09:43
Speaker 1: Fantastic, uh pretty soon it'll be sixty five sixty five.

01:09:47
Speaker 2: Drop yeah or whatever it.

01:09:49
Speaker 3: Is you, know it'll be.

01:09:49
Speaker 1: CRAZY i want to give The falcon some, note because every team gets some notes if they're. Listening Casey washington has been The Darnell mooney replacement and looks like he's going to make this team like a third or fourth. Receiver there's some spots, open according To Atlanta falcons Dot, com at two of the defensive back, spots Rookies Xavier watts at safety And Billy bowman at nickel have a chance to win these, spots but they have not cemented. Them but The falcons are, sticking you, know with not playing a lot of starters in the preseason or even. Backups so there's not much more for me to take from this, game, unless, yeah.

01:10:26
Speaker 3: IF i had to pick one to win a job At Xavier, watts he was a stut in. COLLEGE i think that his play style transitions very well to the next, level AND i think that he'll pretty, quickly at maybe by the end of preseason take that. Job he was a monster At Notre. DAME i love that pick when they added. IN i think he'll take that job all.

01:10:43
Speaker 1: Right wrapping up with The patriots and The Commanders patriots forty, Eight commanders. Eighteen Mike rabel's diving into piles get you, know during, fights getting, bloody and then they're coming out and they're sending a message in the Preseason week, one.

01:11:01
Speaker 3: How do we feel About Traveon henderson returning? KICKS i, mean obviously we feel great because he took it back one hundred.

01:11:08
Speaker 2: Yards he's scored a touchdown on this first.

01:11:10
Speaker 3: TOUCH i, know but also like do you want to do?

01:11:13
Speaker 1: That like, yes, yes because to, me he's a secondary running back for. Now Ramondre stevenson looked awesome in this, Game Wheremondre stevenson is one of those guys that either looks awesome or doesn't look good and you can see, it or fumbles but like you can see, it it's his weights changed like over the, years and he looked. Great he had three great runs in this, game so they're going to use him. Both Travion henderson had a big week of practice and he also had a. CATCH i believe it wasn't a run where he just delivered a blow to some Poor washington cornerback WHO i think he might have, concussed but it just was, Like, wow this guy can not only has the, speed but can play with some real. Power SO i think that's gonna be what they want to build their offense. Off those two guys And Antonio gibson as the third running back in an offensive line led By Will. Campbell that's better run blocking probably than it is pass. Blocking that's What campbell's at least M o AND i think some of the other guys on the offensive line as.

01:12:13
Speaker 3: Well that explains why they invested In henderson after Paying remandre. Too it's an identity. Shift if we're sorting out this receiver, Position Afton, CHISHOLM i feel like that's not quite one of your guys Because Kyle williams is your, guy AND i don't think you can have two guys in the same. Team that's just my rule That i'm making up right now in the Flo But Afton chisholm with six catches fifty yards in a, touchdown maybe making a bit of noise.

01:12:34
Speaker 1: And a ridiculous catch At sunday's practice that got all over The patriots interwebs where, yeah he gets super vertical more THAN i would have, expected catches it at its high, point gets his feet in. Bounds right, NOW i don't Think Kendrick bourne is making this. Team they could maybe get something For Kendrick, born maybe not on this. Contract ACTUALLY i, could and by, SOMETHING i mean like a late round.

01:12:59
Speaker 2: Pick.

01:12:59
Speaker 1: SWAB i don't Think Jalen, polk who got hurt in this, game is making this, team although they might be able to just stash him on injured. Reserve and so at this, POINT i Think Fton chisholm has a pretty good chance to make this team as a six. Receiver Maybe Javon, baker who's a special, teamer is battling him, there but, uh, YEAH i think they're deep enough at. RECEIVER i don't know if they're good enough BUT i think they are deep, enough.

01:13:25
Speaker 3: OR i think that if teams that are needing receivers are looking, somewhere they should direct their eyes To.

01:13:30
Speaker 2: Foxborough, yeah there's a couple because some talent.

01:13:32
Speaker 1: There, Yeah Matt collins is that wide, receiver sort of tight end hybrid almost that's.

01:13:37
Speaker 2: Starting And Drake.

01:13:39
Speaker 1: May by the, way in the joint, practices everyone was all fired up In New england after the joint practices that the offense looked probably had their best day in the joint practices Against washington and they've been having against. Themselves but something similar happened in the, Game, nick which is that Like Drake mays played really well move the ball except for how being like a big, turnover and he had a bad fumble early in this, game despite despite the, score where his two rookie offensive linemen up, Front campbell And Jared wilson seemed to get confused on a on a stunt and that pressure got right To may but he had to just take the sack and instead he just kind of started doing something crazy and he lost the.

01:14:21
Speaker 3: Fumble do we have something good to say about the commanders?

01:14:23
Speaker 1: Here, Nope Just patriots all the, time because they have so Many patriots, notes they had like three tight. ENDS i don't know If Kyle dugger is going to make this. Team that is a. PREDICTION i Think. KYLE i Think Kyle dugger will be. Traded they will be able to get something For Kyle. DUGGER i Think Kyle dugger and And Ferny, jennings who started a lot of, games will both be. Traded Kyle dugger for more Than. Jennings could you get like a fourth round pick For Kyle, Dugger.

01:14:53
Speaker 3: YEAH i think.

01:14:54
Speaker 1: THAT i, mean he was good enough to get a monster contract from, them not long, go BUT i.

01:15:01
Speaker 3: Think a fourth is a safe. FLAT i don't think it would. GO i, MEAN i don't. KNOW i think like The browns once traded a fifth For Amari, Cooper so it really depends on who you're dealing. With but fourth feels maybe, right like he.

01:15:13
Speaker 1: In the right, role he can really make a. Difference but he just did not seem to fit what they want to, do and they're now playing him with backups and, stuff so it's just, Like, okay yeah THEY i don't think they have a role for. Him to answer Your washington, Question Jane daniels reportedly looked really good in those joint practices. Too but it's a lot Of echoler And. Ertz you, know it's they really they could use a their wide Receiver terry McLaurin to be back and someone else to step. Up Noah brown's been out and they really Miss Noah, brown which is a bad. Sign luke McCaffrey just isn't. Happening And Trey amos here's something. Positive their rookie cornerback has reportedly been a consistent bright spot immediate. Starter just really looks like a, veteran like even though he's a, rookie So i'm excited to watch him.

01:15:58
Speaker 3: Play, yeah they need that because a lot of that defense's. Veterans like if you run through their starting eleven With amos, involved you have a ton of guys who have played a lot of football in THE nfl to this point in their, career not a lot of young guys other than Like Mikey sanmers, still so, yeah Adding amos into the, lineup if that's a, Win like acquiring a player in the, offseason you, know a rookie and he can be a, starter that's a huge win for you because eventually not this, year but you, know time comes to, everybody you're gonna have to turn over that. Roster you need some young guys to be able to stick and produce.

01:16:27
Speaker 1: Quickly i'm glad you made that point BECAUSE i WROTE i had a note FROM i believe. This i'm not sure this was from that the average.

01:16:35
Speaker 2: Age of their free. Agent they're. Old, thirty, yeah. THIRTY i got.

01:16:41
Speaker 3: HEAT i went ON Dc radio this week AND i compared him to the two thousand and Seven browns because that was a veteran laden team and the only difference is That Derek anderson was the quarterback of that. Team he was obviously not a superstar Like jade Daniels. Is AND i got pushed back in, that you, know obviously they're, flying you know, high after what happened last. Season they believe, that you, know they're just like THE o Eight browns Did Super, bowl and so they don't want to be compared to them because the team that followed the Os Devin browns went four and. Twelve but this is, why because they're, old and especially on, defense they're very old because Dan quinn once proven guys that he knows can come run his. Defense And i'm just saying there are pitfalls to that. Approach they do Have Jayden. Daniels they and that's the big.

01:17:19
Speaker 2: Difference what did The browns?

01:17:21
Speaker 3: Have they Had Derek anderson And Brady.

01:17:23
Speaker 2: Quinn.

01:17:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah Johnny, newton he's, young one of my favorite draft picks last.

01:17:30
Speaker 2: Year kind of had an up and down rookie.

01:17:31
Speaker 1: Year was playing in this game when most of the starters were not so maybe not a great, sign but he did have a.

01:17:36
Speaker 2: Sack so is he going to have a? ROLE i.

01:17:38
Speaker 1: Hope so their first round, Pick Josh connery was rotating in practice With Andrew. Wiley and then we will wrap this entire. Update we hit all thirty two teams with A bill. Update and if you Forgot Jacory Krosky, merritt WHO i was, saying let's let's follow this. Guy he is this type of guy that you want to watch in the. Preseason he didn't.

01:18:02
Speaker 2: Really have a good.

01:18:03
Speaker 1: Game oh, no the blocking was bad for. HIM i saw the, energy but we want more out.

01:18:11
Speaker 2: Of week two Of. Bill.

01:18:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he.

01:18:15
Speaker 1: Was the most random player THAT i typed up and was, like all, right let's watch The Krosskey merrit.

01:18:21
Speaker 2: Snaps let's say it's like.

01:18:23
Speaker 3: That that's like A Damon Chihi giuseppi reference right. There once took a punt back for a touchdown in a preseason. Game the guy who lied his way onto AN nfl team ranto.

01:18:30
Speaker 1: FACT i thought he actually for twenty four yards on seven. CARRIES i thought he looked pretty. Good he also had an eight year, catch.

01:18:38
Speaker 2: But not a lot of room. Rugged i'm excited to watch.

01:18:41
Speaker 3: WHAT i want to circle back by the way To connolly real, quick just because he was one of my favorite tackles in this, class especially because of the way he moved to the. Combine put together some good, tape you, know just little snippets of good tape in his first preseason, action because he can, move and he moved. Well there was a play there where he went from one block to another, seamlessly very. SWIFTLY i. LIKED i like At, washington hasn't.

01:19:00
Speaker 2: HIM i like what we have in YOU.

01:19:03
Speaker 1: Shooki you came from that wedding hours, away you stayed, Sober you made it. Happen for the, listeners we will be back Next sunday night recapping preseason.

01:19:16
Speaker 2: Week, two play the. Music we also will be Back monday and upset. Shows i'm really excited.

01:19:25
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