The Cartridge Family (with Ray O'Leary)

<v Speaker 1>Bart oh, I see Bart gets to have a gun.
<v Speaker 2>You lied to me.
<v Speaker 3>You promised to get rid of this gun.
<v Speaker 1>I put it in a safe place. March I mean,
<v Speaker 1>what are the odds the boy would look into vegetable
<v Speaker 1>cris Bird?
<v Speaker 4>How could you?
<v Speaker 5>Of all the terrible things you've ever done in your life,
<v Speaker 5>this is the worst, the most despicable.
<v Speaker 1>But March, I swear to you, I never thought you'd
<v Speaker 1>find out.
<v Speaker 6>Four finger discount dude.
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to full Finger thiscat with this week, we're heading
<v Speaker 2>back to season nine a gun.
<v Speaker 3>It's the Cottridge family and I am guy and we
<v Speaker 3>joined well would you let me?
<v Speaker 7>No?
<v Speaker 2>You take it away? Say you take it right? Normally
<v Speaker 2>you're really.
<v Speaker 4>Action to her.
<v Speaker 3>Ultimately we come to the bashl of professionalism that is
<v Speaker 3>the all being a disc game network. We are joined
<v Speaker 3>today by comedian Ray O Leary. If in fact, that
<v Speaker 3>is your real name, Ray, because the Internet, which never
<v Speaker 3>lies to us, indicates that your your real name might
<v Speaker 3>be Matthew O Leary can to explain, sir.
<v Speaker 4>You're doing it? What is it? A principal test? This
<v Speaker 4>is going to go down as your worst episode.
<v Speaker 2>Just so you know, to jump the shark at this point. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we've already at the bar pretty light. Yes, but how
<v Speaker 2>are you, ray Lar Larry is Let's go with ray Larry.
<v Speaker 4>I'm great, thank you, very happy to be discussing all
<v Speaker 4>things Simpsons with you guys. I've been a fan for
<v Speaker 4>a long time, so's specifically of you guys and and
<v Speaker 4>your yeah, your page. I've been deep in the in
<v Speaker 4>the various Simpsons Facebook groups for a long time, so,
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm excited to be here.
<v Speaker 2>It's dangerous getting into those Simpsons groups. You find some
<v Speaker 2>super fans in there.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, compu Global, hyperbig in, rock bottom, tenuous and obscure Simpsons.
<v Speaker 4>I'm in them all.
<v Speaker 2>There's no escaping those weeds. Are you in as your
<v Speaker 2>real name though, or do you have like an alias
<v Speaker 2>in those groups?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Double alias now, yeah, there's an international Man of Mystery.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, obviously we here talk about the carriage Fani.
<v Speaker 2>We're getting that in just a few moments though. But
<v Speaker 2>you've got some upcoming too a day, so we plugged
<v Speaker 2>those before we get underway today.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, oh, thank you, Yes, Yes, I'll be touring a
<v Speaker 4>new show next year. I think that'll go on sale
<v Speaker 4>later this year. I think if it's out, so you know,
<v Speaker 4>follow my social media at Ray Eleary Comedy for that.
<v Speaker 4>And also we go into the UK in February and March,
<v Speaker 4>touring all over England and Scotland and potentially Ireland. I
<v Speaker 4>don't know if those dates have gone up here, but yeah,
<v Speaker 4>there are some UK dates or UK and Ireland dates up,
<v Speaker 4>so you check them out.
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you said rayo Leary Comedy because I'm not
<v Speaker 3>sure if we actually alluded to the fact. Look, Ray,
<v Speaker 3>of course you're I well know you do appear on
<v Speaker 3>Have you been paying attention on Taskmaster? I don't think
<v Speaker 3>we actually said front rarely recomedian? You're on door?
<v Speaker 4>What do you do?
<v Speaker 2>People listen to the show know him more than an LS.
<v Speaker 2>It's okay either he's a comedian or wear it competent. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>but yes, heading to the UK, how do you find
<v Speaker 2>the difference in audiences when he had over there? Do
<v Speaker 2>they any differences there or not? No?
<v Speaker 4>Not not really. I don't know. I think maybe the
<v Speaker 4>biggest difference is just that here in Australia there are
<v Speaker 4>maybe a bit more used to used to me. But
<v Speaker 4>otherwise I find the British and I guess Australasian sense
<v Speaker 4>of humoris is very, very similar. And also when I
<v Speaker 4>go to Britain, I mean often it is Australian and
<v Speaker 4>New Zealanders come out and see me, so they make
<v Speaker 4>up a big chunk of the crowd anyway. But yeah,
<v Speaker 4>apart from that, maybe there's some slight language barriers with
<v Speaker 4>my accent, but I've not yet digged in in America.
<v Speaker 4>But that's where I expect it'd be the biggest, the big,
<v Speaker 4>the big barrier to have to have to try maneuver over.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they very much don't get our sense of humor
<v Speaker 2>all of the time.
<v Speaker 4>Yes exactly, Yes, yes exactly. I don't really understand the Simpsons,
<v Speaker 4>to be honest.
<v Speaker 3>So well, I was actually wondering how I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>synchronized or aligned the traditional Kiwi sense of humor is
<v Speaker 3>with say, the Simpsons sense of humor. I mean, we
<v Speaker 3>tend to sort of view it as universal. I don't
<v Speaker 3>know if there are as many fans of the Simpsons
<v Speaker 3>in New Zealand as there are in Australia.
<v Speaker 4>I'd say yeah, I'd say so. I felt like, I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what I was like growing up in Australia,
<v Speaker 4>but in New Zealand, the Simpsons were on constantly. There
<v Speaker 4>was Yeah, I don't think there was a night where
<v Speaker 4>the Simpsons wasn't on. There was at least there was
<v Speaker 4>one cable channel. Well yeah, we wouldn't say the term cable,
<v Speaker 4>but there's one our equivalent of Fox Tell that would
<v Speaker 4>run I think at least five Simpsons episodes a day
<v Speaker 4>on the weekend. You know, it was all just always
<v Speaker 4>on in the evening. It was omni present. So it
<v Speaker 4>was yeah, yeah, it was. It was huge in New
<v Speaker 4>Zealand and and also I'm pretty sure the Simpsons writers
<v Speaker 4>were influenced by things like Monty Python and the UK
<v Speaker 4>sensibilities and stuff, which maybe makes it explain why it's
<v Speaker 4>so Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Worldwide, I find the Simpsons is great for finding new
<v Speaker 2>friends as well. You mentioned before that when you go
<v Speaker 2>to the UK sometimes you have that language barrier. You
<v Speaker 2>don't some people might not know you as much as
<v Speaker 2>they know you when you're in Australia. I'm sure if
<v Speaker 2>you drop a couple of Simpsons gags in your routine,
<v Speaker 2>I start seeing. But what was your all of your
<v Speaker 2>earliest memories of the Simpsons.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's a good question. I don't. I don't know
<v Speaker 4>if I have any particular concrete memories, but I definitely
<v Speaker 4>would remember I'd watch the TV, and I think I
<v Speaker 4>would go and try and recite some of the gags
<v Speaker 4>that I liked to mum or she was like trying
<v Speaker 4>to wash the dishes or prepare for next day, or
<v Speaker 4>you know, after I'd eating all their food and was
<v Speaker 4>doing nothing and she was not interested. I was, you know,
<v Speaker 4>I was bombing. I was bombing in the kitchen.
<v Speaker 2>Can you recall can you recall any of the particular
<v Speaker 2>gags that what that it might have been?
<v Speaker 4>No? No, no, sorry, man, I'd butcher and I'd butcher
<v Speaker 4>them now. But I definitely remember liking the Simpsons and
<v Speaker 4>a But I'm sure as a kid what primarily drew
<v Speaker 4>me to it was the fact that it was a cartoon.
<v Speaker 4>You know, like I just assumed it was for me
<v Speaker 4>because it was a cartoon, and there's no way I
<v Speaker 4>understood really anything of what was going on, Whereas now
<v Speaker 4>I felt like, you know, you watch the comedy and
<v Speaker 4>it's it's more sophisticated that I think what a kid
<v Speaker 4>would pick up on.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or you were mentioning twists before we started recording
<v Speaker 2>that you went back last year with the year before,
<v Speaker 2>watching season three through to nine, and there's just so
<v Speaker 2>many gags that you don't pick up on and when
<v Speaker 2>you're a kid and you just appreciate the show on
<v Speaker 2>a whole new level. I've just started watching the show again.
<v Speaker 2>Obviously watch it all the time for the podcast, but
<v Speaker 2>I've got a seven year old and it just turned
<v Speaker 2>five year old hay b if the Holy My daughter
<v Speaker 2>turned five to day as we record this. But they've
<v Speaker 2>just started watching The Simpsons and we've gone back to
<v Speaker 2>the start and we're watching them through and I'm watching
<v Speaker 2>this and I'm laughing at things and going, why is
<v Speaker 2>that funny? I'm going you'll understand eventually, or if I
<v Speaker 2>can be bothered to explain it, I'll also explain the
<v Speaker 2>gag as well. That's just what's so great about The
<v Speaker 2>Simpsons is there's there's so many layers to it. There's
<v Speaker 2>gags are the kids, gags for the adults, and the
<v Speaker 2>gags for everybody.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, if I was tearrified, the story was going
<v Speaker 4>to be that your kids were understanding the Simpsons perfectly,
<v Speaker 4>and I was. I was just a particularly stupid child.
<v Speaker 2>We're all stupid.
<v Speaker 3>We were a smart adult though, Ray I given you
<v Speaker 3>you're you're, you're you're a well just what were gleaned
<v Speaker 3>from this conversation. But also, yeah, you're a student of philosophy.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, well you've done your research.
<v Speaker 3>The internet, thank you, but sort of gathering that information
<v Speaker 3>or you know, learning about, you know, the various strands
<v Speaker 3>of thinking and things like that. I don't know, did
<v Speaker 3>affect your comedy sensibility in anyway in how you absorb
<v Speaker 3>comedy but also how you presented.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I say one hundred percent. Yeah, I think it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I think it fundamentally sort of changed changed who I
<v Speaker 4>am and how I approach things. And I think, especially
<v Speaker 4>with comedy, I think a lot of good comedy is
<v Speaker 4>sort of like a philosophical argument. You know, in philosophy,
<v Speaker 4>there there's you know, you're trying to support a conclusion.
<v Speaker 4>You know, you're trying to prove that the conclusion is true,
<v Speaker 4>and you gather your premise and your evidence and you're
<v Speaker 4>arranged in the logical order and you do that. And
<v Speaker 4>comedy I think can often be like that. You know,
<v Speaker 4>It's like I see the world like this, and this
<v Speaker 4>is why, and here's my supporting reasons, and so it
<v Speaker 4>is often you are often presenting an argument, but often
<v Speaker 4>but because it's comedy, the logics all twisted and none
<v Speaker 4>of it quite makes sense and stuff, But it's still
<v Speaker 4>I think at its core you're doing a very similar thing. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>And the closing argument that you've got to come up with,
<v Speaker 3>that conclusion you have become with is usually is the punchline.
<v Speaker 4>Yes exactly of percent? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And and I
<v Speaker 4>mean the Simpsons writers were heavily influenced by philosophy. I'm
<v Speaker 4>pretty sure that they seem to know what I mean.
<v Speaker 4>There was there's a great gag is the it? Which
<v Speaker 4>one is the probe where they all have to give
<v Speaker 4>them their textas and Kim Brockman says the unemployment line
<v Speaker 4>formerly the domain of philosophy majors.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's right. When they're at the dole officer.
<v Speaker 3>That's tough times and not even productive people are feeling,
<v Speaker 3>not just philosophy.
<v Speaker 4>How even productively. So funny.
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting you're saying before that you used to do
<v Speaker 2>the gags to your mother or try and rehearse them
<v Speaker 2>to your mum. We've had like several, like many comedians
<v Speaker 2>on the show, and so many of them say they
<v Speaker 2>did the same thing when they were younger. I just
<v Speaker 2>wonder if you became a comedian because of the Simpsons.
<v Speaker 2>They're just instilled in your mind, this is something fun
<v Speaker 2>to do. I'm going to do this for a living
<v Speaker 2>without even realizing it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one hundred percent. And it's clearly something in you
<v Speaker 4>that makes you want to recite the gag and keep
<v Speaker 4>the laugh for yourself. And I do wonder if bombing
<v Speaker 4>to my mum in the kitchen sort of instilled this
<v Speaker 4>like deep desire to get a laugh of like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>I gotta I gotta win her somehow, you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, she a heck boom.
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm just remembering my favorite Simpsons gift, which
<v Speaker 3>is the stand up comedian. Oh, I think about weirdstuff.
<v Speaker 3>What about a et and mister T had a baby,
<v Speaker 3>but then he does a little give it up gesture.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just picturing you in the kitchen and.
<v Speaker 4>Mom, I was doing a lot of you know how
<v Speaker 4>white guys drive, like.
<v Speaker 2>Trying to picture a little six year old Rare Learry
<v Speaker 2>doing that routine.
<v Speaker 4>It's actually now that's one of my sister's favorite gigs
<v Speaker 4>from the Simpsons of when mod does stand up and
<v Speaker 4>as the ladies like to call me, hey you behind
<v Speaker 4>the bush?
<v Speaker 2>Do you like that episode, the stand up comedian episode
<v Speaker 2>where Krusty becomes the more raunchy comic.
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's yeah, it's fantastic where he sort of
<v Speaker 4>does it George Carlin type two. George Carlin is maybe
<v Speaker 4>even in the episode.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe be reference by any different does the ponytail
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, No, I think it's I think it's phenomenal, and
<v Speaker 4>it's it feels like a timeless type sort of commentary
<v Speaker 4>on like, it feels still very much how comedy works now,
<v Speaker 4>where you know you can be this like interesting alternative
<v Speaker 4>act for a while and then the the siren call
<v Speaker 4>of money and Kenyonero's sponsorship deals and you sell your
<v Speaker 4>soul Jay Leno's in that episode, that's the one.
<v Speaker 2>It gives them the spongebarb yes, Leno's bathing.
<v Speaker 4>Yes. And then as we well, the episode we're going
<v Speaker 4>to discuss was almost going to be Burns Baby Burns,
<v Speaker 4>which is another one that heavily features a stand up
<v Speaker 4>comedy and has Rodney Dangerfield sort of basically playing himself,
<v Speaker 4>which is I think another another fantastic episode.
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because when I was younger, I didn't even
<v Speaker 2>quite get what he was on on about who is
<v Speaker 2>this character? What is going on? I understand these gags,
<v Speaker 2>and then when I got I was like, holy shit,
<v Speaker 2>this is one of the first episodes of all time.
<v Speaker 4>It's so good. Yeah, And I've read that the Ride
<v Speaker 4>has actually kind of struggled to write it because they
<v Speaker 4>were trying to write Rodney Dangerfield jokes. And I think
<v Speaker 4>he is a very particular tone and type, which is
<v Speaker 4>maybe that's not that hard to tap into, like oh,
<v Speaker 4>the heavily you know, the guy who gets no respect.
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's that's a stick. But the jokes he
<v Speaker 4>does are so so so strong. He's a very like
<v Speaker 4>his stand up. I think a lot of it still
<v Speaker 4>holds up, which a lot of comedy does not, but
<v Speaker 4>his still does. And so I don't know, they ended
<v Speaker 4>up doing a very good job. I think of sort
<v Speaker 4>of creating a mini Rodney Dangerfield in The Simpsons, and
<v Speaker 4>like the little allusions to his act I think are
<v Speaker 4>so funny where he says, I get no regard.
<v Speaker 2>Move the tire.
<v Speaker 4>It is walking up to mister Burns's house and is going, oh, man,
<v Speaker 4>this place is so nice. It's got I've never seen
<v Speaker 4>a place with a drive in mailbox talking to.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm going to say, you're nailing the Rodney cadence there,
<v Speaker 3>because I mean he's very much one on one and
<v Speaker 3>in terms of what you're talking about there, I mean,
<v Speaker 3>the gags seem like, oh, these are dad jokes or
<v Speaker 3>these sort of hacky take my way, please stand up jokes.
<v Speaker 3>But the combination of that material and the way Rodney
<v Speaker 3>delivered them, it's with a sort of laser focus. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you're right, no one can really imitate that. I mean
<v Speaker 3>you can try, but yeah, you'll never get it quite right.
<v Speaker 2>So do you think he's also somewhat of a physical comedian
<v Speaker 2>just the mannerisms in which when he delivers the line
<v Speaker 2>he looks away and he does the tie. Do you
<v Speaker 2>think that is part of the part of the shtick.
<v Speaker 2>Do you think as well?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one hundred percent. I think he I mean I
<v Speaker 4>think he may have actually had a condition, but his
<v Speaker 4>eyes sort of boulge out a little bit as well,
<v Speaker 4>and like, yeah, just the way he looks he it's
<v Speaker 4>I think it is important for comedy, and I think
<v Speaker 4>maybe i've stumbled upon it as well. But you know,
<v Speaker 4>he looked he looks like a loser. You know, you
<v Speaker 4>believe he's a loser. And then he gets up and
<v Speaker 4>he starts talking, and you're like, oh, this guy, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>he's a.
<v Speaker 2>Loser if he gets up and he starts doing sort
<v Speaker 2>of politically charged George Carlin Stahleman.
<v Speaker 3>You're not quite buying it. Could they could be the
<v Speaker 3>most bang on lines ever. They get the most scathing
<v Speaker 3>social observations, like from this guy though.
<v Speaker 4>He's not selling it, don't you hate pants?
<v Speaker 2>It's a big club and you're not in it. But
<v Speaker 2>you're speaking about timeless commentary before and The Simpsons is
<v Speaker 2>no for that. And that's what we're doing today is
<v Speaker 2>the Cartridge Family because obviously they're taking the mickey out
<v Speaker 2>of gun laws and just controlling guns in the gun culture,
<v Speaker 2>gun culture in the in the US. But they do
<v Speaker 2>it in a way that not many shows have been
<v Speaker 2>able to successfully pull off. It's unbiased. It sees the
<v Speaker 2>pros and con of both sides. I don't think you
<v Speaker 2>really walk out of this feeling like guns are the
<v Speaker 2>way to go, or generally guns aren't the way to go.
<v Speaker 2>It's just the way Sports World have written it is
<v Speaker 2>just an all timer.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, one hundred percent. Yeah, Yes, Swartsweld will be one
<v Speaker 4>of the greatest comedy writers of all time. And I
<v Speaker 4>think as I've sort of gotten older, I think I
<v Speaker 4>realized that is. I guess what you discussed is kind
<v Speaker 4>of the kind of comedy I really love. I do
<v Speaker 4>really love comedy about politically charged topics. But I don't
<v Speaker 4>you know, you don't want to just hear someone sort
<v Speaker 4>of repeat what you believe back to you and then
<v Speaker 4>you sort of just clap and go, oh yeah, that
<v Speaker 4>I do agree with that. Like, yeah, the Simpsons have
<v Speaker 4>I guess, kind of a funny perspective, which is Homer
<v Speaker 4>really Homer should not have a gun, which is I
<v Speaker 4>think the main takeaway.
<v Speaker 2>But it's yeah, and that's what Mike Scully said, the
<v Speaker 2>showrunner at the time. He said that that's the takeaway.
<v Speaker 2>Homer the character is the person who shouldn't have a gun.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, exactly, Yeah, and which I think everyone could have
<v Speaker 4>could agree with there, Like its funny like seeing the
<v Speaker 4>members of the NRA's faces as he shoots at the TV.
<v Speaker 4>They're like watching Eggna's skinner look so horrified.
<v Speaker 2>And who's been throwing grenades at the shooting range dryer.
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's actually a really good rug pull
<v Speaker 2>that moment because you're not expecting their reaction to be that, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Moss shown up, he's five in one gun, and you
<v Speaker 2>expect them to sort of be gun crazy when he
<v Speaker 2>does that. It makes you the viewer who is like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not anti gun, but like we're in it. Outside
<v Speaker 2>of the States, we have a very negative outlook on
<v Speaker 2>their guns. In the States. You watch it and you go, Ah,
<v Speaker 2>these guys aren't gun crazy maniacs. Maybe I need to
<v Speaker 2>take a step back and to sort of listen to
<v Speaker 2>what they have to say as well.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, one hundred percent, And like I feel like, I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I could be wrong, but it feels like could be
<v Speaker 4>very difficult now to portray the NRA and maybe in
<v Speaker 4>a more reasonable I don't know, it doesn't just feels
<v Speaker 4>things are more polarized now, and so I feel like,
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I don't know if you'd have necessarily
<v Speaker 4>as a nuanced to discussion involving the NRA on on
<v Speaker 4>TV now, But I think that's the Yeah, that's the
<v Speaker 4>kind of comedy I really like. It's political comedy, it
<v Speaker 4>wades into the political issues. It doesn't necessarily show that
<v Speaker 4>one side is one hundred percent right, though maybe it
<v Speaker 4>does make you lean more towards a little bit a
<v Speaker 4>little bit one way. But it's not like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>they don't say this this issue is perfect or the
<v Speaker 4>side is perfect. Like at the end, you know, it
<v Speaker 4>kind of seems like maybe Marge is in the right,
<v Speaker 4>but then they do get what is it held up?
<v Speaker 4>They get by snake. Snake comes in and then they
<v Speaker 4>do need a gun at the end.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you also have the issue of Marge and
<v Speaker 2>Home and Home aligned to it again. But yeah, you're
<v Speaker 2>just touched on there. How Like I was saying, how
<v Speaker 2>it's unbiased? Do you think you couldn't do it now
<v Speaker 2>as you're saying, because comedy in general has just become
<v Speaker 2>very one note. Let's say that you agree or you disagree.
<v Speaker 2>There's sort of no middle line anymore, especially when it
<v Speaker 2>comes to political issues.
<v Speaker 4>I think there are still some people in some comedies
<v Speaker 4>who are tackling, you know, political topics in a very
<v Speaker 4>interesting way, and even sometimes in a one in an
<v Speaker 4>overly one sided way, like I think, you know, John Stewart,
<v Speaker 4>for example, or roy Wood Junior. I think they're clearly
<v Speaker 4>left wing people, or Steward Lee in the UK, like
<v Speaker 4>I think there are some comics who are very clearly
<v Speaker 4>left wing. But even though they are left wing, they're
<v Speaker 4>still the primary primary concern of all of them. I
<v Speaker 4>think has been funny first, you know, and I think
<v Speaker 4>that's so that's still nice. So I wouldn't necessarily say
<v Speaker 4>that comedy has changed. I would say my feeling is,
<v Speaker 4>and I could be wrong, but that politics has changed.
<v Speaker 4>It's not as it's not as nice as it used
<v Speaker 4>to be. I think, like I again, I mean that
<v Speaker 4>we have constant discussions about like you know, we all
<v Speaker 4>need to reach across the aisle and you know, not
<v Speaker 4>be so polarized, YadA, YadA. But I do think, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>top of the issues just are more polarized now, and
<v Speaker 4>there's a bigger gulf between the two sides, and I think.
<v Speaker 3>I imagine there's nu once discussion app they it is really
<v Speaker 3>really sort of harder to find. It gets drowned out
<v Speaker 3>by the loudest signs on either extreme, whether you're if
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about guns for and sorta of gun control
<v Speaker 3>with their anti gun control or pro I mean, I imagine
<v Speaker 3>there are moderate voices even in the NRA or in
<v Speaker 3>you know, in gun culture in the US. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>I've known people who who hunt and who have rivals
<v Speaker 3>and now they are adamant. They are always adamant about like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>this day's locked up, this day's like double locked up.
<v Speaker 3>It's behind the get smart doors essentially. Yeah, but I'm
<v Speaker 3>sure you're going to have some people who are, you know,
<v Speaker 3>to the extremes like no, no open carry all the time.
<v Speaker 3>This is on my hip wherever I go, and they're
<v Speaker 3>the ones who are going to get the headlines and
<v Speaker 3>sort of prompt the most discussion pro and con.
<v Speaker 2>What's interesting in swatswad are the men who wrote this
<v Speaker 2>one of the most iconic Simpsons writers of all time.
<v Speaker 2>He's very pro gun. So I wonder if it wasn't
<v Speaker 2>him running, do you think there would have been a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of pro NRA story.
<v Speaker 3>And I imagine the King of the King of England
<v Speaker 3>got in his face one too many times and it's
<v Speaker 3>just like I'm got to show this guy.
<v Speaker 4>That is a great moment of the episode right at
<v Speaker 4>the year where they where they say the reason on
<v Speaker 4>a gun is we're homo midges that do you think
<v Speaker 4>is being dumb? And then the n A are like, no, no, no.
<v Speaker 2>But that's the main reason. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>But you're right though, Dan, I mean, I imagine that
<v Speaker 3>we're going into this. I I had memories of the
<v Speaker 3>Cartridge family, but I didn't remember the entire plot, and
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, Oh, this is going to be more
<v Speaker 3>anti gun than pro and it's I wasn't going to
<v Speaker 3>accuse it of not having nuance. I mean, I think
<v Speaker 3>The Simpsons does that pretty well, but I get that.
<v Speaker 3>I had the feeling that in the end it's going
<v Speaker 3>to be more guns are bad for the most part,
<v Speaker 3>or our argument is ninety percent guns are bad. And yeah,
<v Speaker 3>for this to be as even handed as it was
<v Speaker 3>in a lot of ways, and even with that last
<v Speaker 3>part that you're talking about with the final the final,
<v Speaker 3>the very final scene with Marge, yeah, they do appeal
<v Speaker 3>to something very primal, improvenive.
<v Speaker 2>It feels good to hold this. Yeah. Yeah, and that
<v Speaker 2>ending interesting you brought that up, is actually censored. I'm
<v Speaker 2>not sure if it is to this day. We'll got
<v Speaker 2>Disney Plus now, so it's different Back when reruns on
<v Speaker 2>TV where the way to watch The Simpsons in the UK,
<v Speaker 2>they banned the episode for a good while because of
<v Speaker 2>the subject matter and they thought it was just too
<v Speaker 2>pro gun and they thought the kids would think, as
<v Speaker 2>he said at the end there with Marge walking out,
<v Speaker 2>they think kids would leave this going. Kids think guns
<v Speaker 2>are cool and we don't want that at all here
<v Speaker 2>in the UK. So it was banned. But then when
<v Speaker 2>they finally another another station brought the rights to it
<v Speaker 2>got to go onto the TV, but they changed the ending.
<v Speaker 2>You can actually find the video on YouTube of the
<v Speaker 2>revised ending that airs. I think it's gonna be Sky
<v Speaker 2>one or whatever. And what happens is when Marge puts
<v Speaker 2>the gun in the bin, you see a reflection and
<v Speaker 2>then they play the reverse footage, and it's meant to
<v Speaker 2>be that her gun. She's dropping the gun in the bin,
<v Speaker 2>and then she just walks out and that's the end.
<v Speaker 2>I don't see her with the gun. You don't know
<v Speaker 2>she's got the gun in her purse. It's meant to
<v Speaker 2>be Marge's put the gun in the bin. She's happy,
<v Speaker 2>and she's walking out like she's saved the day by
<v Speaker 2>getting rid of the gun, which completely changes the tone
<v Speaker 2>of the episode.
<v Speaker 4>Really does yes, Yes, and it's a shame because it's
<v Speaker 4>kind of nice when March has those little moments where
<v Speaker 4>you're like, oh, she's I don't know, she's not just
<v Speaker 4>this mild mannered I don't know, housewife or whatever. You know,
<v Speaker 4>she's got this like interesting fiery streak and she's a
<v Speaker 4>gambling addict and stuff. You know, it's nice when they
<v Speaker 4>have she has little moments flaws. She has flaws exactly.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I don't think the episode is anti gun
<v Speaker 3>so much as pro responsibility. And then going back to
<v Speaker 3>that NRA meeting where you know, at Home's place where
<v Speaker 3>he's you know, bring out chocolate curls and that, but
<v Speaker 3>using the gun to open his beer and everyone's.
<v Speaker 2>Just absolutely repulsed by this.
<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, I mean I think that's probably what
<v Speaker 3>the episode is putting across morning, and it's like, that's
<v Speaker 3>how you should if you're if you're an American and
<v Speaker 3>you're you've got the second member that allows you to
<v Speaker 3>what gives you the right to bear arms, You've got
<v Speaker 3>to do so responsibly.
<v Speaker 2>You know, this isn't a what.
<v Speaker 3>Is Homer's ads? Like, this is a tool like anything else,
<v Speaker 3>like a harpoon.
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<v Speaker 2>the episode was at Homer saves a robbery using his gun,
<v Speaker 2>YadA YadA, YadA, and I'm glad they didn't do that
<v Speaker 2>because I think if you do a story like that
<v Speaker 2>which comes across as very pro gun in the early
<v Speaker 2>days of The Simpsons, I think it changes the overall
<v Speaker 2>depiction of just the perception of the show for parents
<v Speaker 2>letting their kids watch it, because I mean, as an
<v Speaker 2>Australian mother, I know my mum would definitely not let
<v Speaker 2>me to Simpsons if there was an episode in season
<v Speaker 2>one saying hey, kids, guns aren't so bad.
<v Speaker 4>Yes for sure, yes, yes, yeah, I don't know what
<v Speaker 4>my mom thought, I guess, I don't know did she'd
<v Speaker 4>allowed me to watch it, but I know she's a
<v Speaker 4>partner are now who never liked The Simpsons because there
<v Speaker 4>was too much belching. That was that's the line that
<v Speaker 4>was burping. He goes duck hunting and things like that.
<v Speaker 4>So I assumed that the guns was fine. But the
<v Speaker 4>birding is with them.
<v Speaker 2>When he when he strangles you like, that's okay? As
<v Speaker 2>well know every episode is just censored forever.
<v Speaker 4>They actually edited the ending of the Barty episode where
<v Speaker 4>he's about to burn, but then they reversed the footage
<v Speaker 4>and he doesn't.
<v Speaker 2>What's the more they do the big burp? It's their
<v Speaker 2>star as burns when they have the back with the critic.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah but you door a wealthy interesting I know how
<v Speaker 2>or why? But what was what's the celebrities name? You're
<v Speaker 2>just saying you do wealthy? Yeah, you do it. They
<v Speaker 2>have her do the burp off screen and crusty hair blows.
<v Speaker 2>For some reason on Australian TV they used to censor
<v Speaker 2>out the burp. It was just silent when she burned
<v Speaker 2>and his hair would move, but he couldn't hear a burp.
<v Speaker 2>It makes no.
<v Speaker 3>Sense was your mum's partner on the on the film classification.
<v Speaker 3>We're okay with Salo and the Evil Dead, but you
<v Speaker 3>had not this episode.
<v Speaker 2>It all makes sense now. The other thing, this obviously
<v Speaker 2>is all about gun control, but we also get a
<v Speaker 2>really solid margin Homer in Christ's marriaging Christ's story. He
<v Speaker 2>had plenty of them, but I thought this one here
<v Speaker 2>felt unique in the sense that Marge wasn't leaving just
<v Speaker 2>because Homa did something stupid. She was leaving because she
<v Speaker 2>genuinely feared for her life. And that's a different thing.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't Home wasn't doing necessarily anything. His behavior was stupid, right,
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't he was just being an idiot. It
<v Speaker 2>was just he was being selfish and being I guess, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>just a bad father and a bad husband. And that's
<v Speaker 2>why she had to take the kids and run.
<v Speaker 4>He was genuinely endangering their lives and consistently lying about it.
<v Speaker 4>And it's I think those lines are so funny, were
<v Speaker 4>in Marge with what is it? He comes in? And
<v Speaker 4>what is it? Bart is about to shoot Millhouse in
<v Speaker 4>the face, and then and then hope it comes and goes, Oh,
<v Speaker 4>how come Bart gets a gun.
<v Speaker 2>I never thought you'd find out.
<v Speaker 4>I swear from the bront bottom of my heart, Parge,
<v Speaker 4>I didn't think you'd find out. It's so funny.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great that they have. They make it so funny, right,
<v Speaker 2>but then you have to have that serious moment where
<v Speaker 2>the n RA go well what are you doing, bunny?
<v Speaker 2>And it's important. It was clever that Swortswater had the
<v Speaker 2>n r A be the ones to do that as well.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, yeah, it's so funny. And then also making
<v Speaker 4>Homer leave his own house he has to wait outside
<v Speaker 4>all the rest of them parties.
<v Speaker 2>What sounds like the Ion Springfield thing? Is that? Really?
<v Speaker 2>That's what sound like? I want to any excuse for
<v Speaker 2>me to do that sound is yeah, I'll take it better.
<v Speaker 2>Say favorite moments?
<v Speaker 3>Well, I thought it was under one of my favorite moments,
<v Speaker 3>but that one of my favorite moments is actually the
<v Speaker 3>next line my favorite.
<v Speaker 2>Well what we do here? Raised we touched on some
<v Speaker 2>of our favorite moments from the episode. Do you have
<v Speaker 2>any particular moments that stood out to you?
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's a lot. I mean, I picked it because
<v Speaker 4>I do think it is the funniest episode. I think, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I think how come Bart gets a gun. That's incredibly
<v Speaker 4>a really funny line. But maybe my favorite line is
<v Speaker 4>we know because Marge, I've got a surprise for you.
<v Speaker 4>They got to the open, she opens your eyes and
<v Speaker 4>he's pucked in the gun. Right.
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing you can have such confronting images of pointing
<v Speaker 2>a gun at Marge's face but make it funny.
<v Speaker 4>It's really something. It is really something that we can
<v Speaker 4>only get away with because it's animated. Like probably if
<v Speaker 4>you had if this show was live action and Homer
<v Speaker 4>was shooting a gun at the TV and things like that,
<v Speaker 4>it probably would be quite horrifying watch. Because it's an animation,
<v Speaker 4>they can get away with it and do the things
<v Speaker 4>of the shots of Marge's eye and the guns pointed
<v Speaker 4>right out in it.
<v Speaker 2>When the guy was leaving there, the security guy, and
<v Speaker 2>he says, surely you can't put a price in your
<v Speaker 2>family's life. I wouldn't thought so either.
<v Speaker 3>But here, by the way, shadow to x Con security
<v Speaker 3>guary real quickly, just when he's pinching all their ship stopping.
<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't really sort of sly smile like, oh
<v Speaker 3>I like this guy.
<v Speaker 4>But when when he says, what does it know that
<v Speaker 4>all the previous owner of this owners of this house
<v Speaker 4>could still be in here.
<v Speaker 2>He didn't change your lots.
<v Speaker 4>And the other the other line, now that I think
<v Speaker 4>about it, that always I remember really cracking me up
<v Speaker 4>when I first watched the episode was the soccer ad
<v Speaker 4>right at the start and they say, then we can
<v Speaker 4>finally decide which is the best country in the world,
<v Speaker 4>Mexico or Portugal.
<v Speaker 2>Well, when we get to this the moments, I want
<v Speaker 2>to touch on that because yeah, there's a lot to
<v Speaker 2>dove into that as well. But I also really liked
<v Speaker 2>the Now being a married man with two kids, I
<v Speaker 2>completely relate and understand this bit where Marge says to Homer,
<v Speaker 2>I think you'd agree Homer that I've put up with
<v Speaker 2>a lot in this marriage. And he's about to interject
<v Speaker 2>and he looks at the kids, and the kids's goat,
<v Speaker 2>you'll lose this one day.
<v Speaker 4>That's such a good light. And the cup to them
<v Speaker 4>after Homer has been shooting the dinner plates and then
<v Speaker 4>they up to them all eating out of the colanders and.
<v Speaker 2>Open where we did the plates You probably left them
<v Speaker 2>at wait.
<v Speaker 4>And I also love a Millhouse moment and a Simpson's
<v Speaker 4>episode as well that When Homer says, do you know
<v Speaker 4>how to cook dinner? He goes on, do I.
<v Speaker 2>My time shine.
<v Speaker 3>One or two that I wouldn't mind giving a shout out.
<v Speaker 3>I love that the gunshop was called blood Bath. And
<v Speaker 3>beyond that much of your questions Moe's lying about he
<v Speaker 3>he had a burglar at Mo's and shot him in
<v Speaker 3>the spines. Like I guess the next place he rather
<v Speaker 3>better than a ramp.
<v Speaker 2>Dark. It's gonna get pretty ugly there the spine.
<v Speaker 4>It's such a horrific spit. And today I forget they
<v Speaker 4>either all clap or do they all?
<v Speaker 2>Are they appla they applause? I don't know this is
<v Speaker 2>a meme as such.
<v Speaker 4>It's not.
<v Speaker 3>It's not a mainstream meme in the in the vein
<v Speaker 3>of Homer back in the Hedge or something like that.
<v Speaker 3>But Homer's robbed the Quickie Mard fantasy.
<v Speaker 2>It's like what would like to be good?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's guys, a go go Dan Senator sash swirling
<v Speaker 3>a six shooter and marges like a bikini clap go
<v Speaker 3>go down.
<v Speaker 2>Really like brobed the Quickie Margin.
<v Speaker 3>And the kids have left the family home. They've gone
<v Speaker 3>to Patty and Selm. We've got a gentleman.
<v Speaker 2>Called Stem is not broken, it's just unplugged.
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Hey, I thought you would.
<v Speaker 2>Have loved Quimby. That's my final one, Wimby. That's all
<v Speaker 2>you got to say.
<v Speaker 3>And three times the man's just on the campaign trailer's
<v Speaker 3>on the hast things all the time.
<v Speaker 2>Brilliant, Mike Wimby. My final one is at the end
<v Speaker 2>where Snake takes home his gun. Gets you, idiot, there's
<v Speaker 2>no in there. Give me the okay, don't you?
<v Speaker 4>The phenomenal one? Actually, speaking of lines that I remember
<v Speaker 4>as a kid, I just maybe they used to play
<v Speaker 4>it in an aad or something. No, that can't be right,
<v Speaker 4>but I distinctly remember the the woman saying, hello's sailor,
<v Speaker 4>and does you say you're looking for a good time?
<v Speaker 4>And he says.
<v Speaker 2>He's really not.
<v Speaker 4>Budge comes back out. But I think that, for whatever reason,
<v Speaker 4>the line of hello, sailor, are you're looking for a
<v Speaker 4>good time? Stuck in my brain as a child.
<v Speaker 2>It's what you were saying before. You think it might
<v Speaker 2>have been from commercial or something. There's a moment in
<v Speaker 2>this episode here where Homer says we're going to go
<v Speaker 2>to the soccer. Yes, yes, oh god, yes, that used
<v Speaker 2>to be always used. We had a TV station was
<v Speaker 2>still here, Channel ten. You're on Channel ten? Were you
<v Speaker 2>have you been paying attention to whatnot? They used to
<v Speaker 2>air the Simpsons. That was like the in the Golden Year.
<v Speaker 2>That was what they had The Simpsons and used to
<v Speaker 2>have competitions all the time, and they say do you
<v Speaker 2>want to answer the competition? And it always play that
<v Speaker 2>clip yes, yes, oh god, yes or whatever I say.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's the ad. It's funny how like certain
<v Speaker 2>moments to get repeated so many times. You're like, it's
<v Speaker 2>that commercial and that's that moment. Yeah, next question, you
<v Speaker 2>there eating the bast trivia time hit us with your
<v Speaker 2>first question the.
<v Speaker 3>Soccer grade Pelle endorses what it'll make you king of
<v Speaker 3>the kitchen.
<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, it's a it's something really bland and oh
<v Speaker 4>is it just like a well, why no.
<v Speaker 2>Crust something crackers? Right? It is Cressfield wax paper.
<v Speaker 3>It is nothing like what you was at. But Pella
<v Speaker 3>got a fat second cash for that. Anytime, anytime we've
<v Speaker 3>got someone getting a fat bag with a dollar sign
<v Speaker 3>on it, you're doing all right by mate, whether it's
<v Speaker 3>Ron Howard or Pele and those are pretty much the
<v Speaker 3>only two examples that exist. Yeah, just an absolute winner unrelated.
<v Speaker 4>It's in another episode and you guys will know which one.
<v Speaker 4>But another great moment in the Simpsons at a stadium
<v Speaker 4>is when mister Burns is the winner of a of
<v Speaker 4>a lottery or he wins a car or something and
<v Speaker 4>he comes out. Oh it's when. It's when Margin is
<v Speaker 4>making pretzels because she's.
<v Speaker 2>Just in zero zero one and she just had.
<v Speaker 4>Prinzels to the entire crowd, and come the.
<v Speaker 2>Pritzels Colin Whitey Whackers.
<v Speaker 4>Mister Burns is twitching on the ground.
<v Speaker 2>No, it's a whitey Whitey somebody could He comes out
<v Speaker 2>to try and stop the crowd. And then Colin Whitey
<v Speaker 2>Whackers because mister Burns in his car. I just love
<v Speaker 2>the delivery. I think it's harrisher and here come that pretzelzels.
<v Speaker 2>I have to say that. Man. My first question is
<v Speaker 2>what is on at the Springfield Stadium the day after
<v Speaker 2>the socker.
<v Speaker 4>Oh. I remember paying attention to that because I remember thinking, oh,
<v Speaker 4>that was weird, and I thought maybe they could have
<v Speaker 4>done a stronger gag. But I'm trying to.
<v Speaker 2>It's usually something of rock.
<v Speaker 4>This something of.
<v Speaker 2>It's monsters of something.
<v Speaker 4>Oh well, okay, is it monsters of love or something?
<v Speaker 2>Or Monsters of poetry?
<v Speaker 4>That's aid Monsters of Poetry. I didn't understand the gag.
<v Speaker 4>I think that's well.
<v Speaker 3>Monsters of Rock is like a thing, right, it's a
<v Speaker 3>it was an ongoing tour in the nineties that you
<v Speaker 3>get to get a three or four bands that were the.
<v Speaker 4>Money. Yeah, so for three or four bands that were
<v Speaker 4>couldn't quite fill the stadium on their own.
<v Speaker 2>But Monsters of Rock featuring Docan deph Flippers.
<v Speaker 4>Of Poetry, that's a great gag.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, your next one.
<v Speaker 3>According to Margin's statistics, you are how much more likely
<v Speaker 3>to shoot a family member than you are an intruder?
<v Speaker 2>I know this one. I remember.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, yes, gosh, I remember because saying and but how
<v Speaker 4>how much higher?
<v Speaker 2>Is it? Like a little bit, a little bit more
<v Speaker 2>than half?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I was going to say that. My brain went
<v Speaker 4>to fifty six fifty eight, Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Incredibly close.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, Where are the guns located in blood Bath
<v Speaker 2>and Beyond?
<v Speaker 4>Oh gosh, I remember I remembering Homer seeming like he
<v Speaker 4>wanted to rush into the store that he rushes straight past.
<v Speaker 2>Wise guy says they're in Asle so and so next
<v Speaker 2>to the something. They're in Aisle six next to the
<v Speaker 2>sympathy cards.
<v Speaker 3>Well this is very quick to bathroom turn around by Homer,
<v Speaker 3>by the way, Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that I love that moment. Yeah, I think
<v Speaker 2>he's excited for the gun.
<v Speaker 3>But also very any i'mhappy in any time I see
<v Speaker 3>Wise Guy as a viewers and listening to the show.
<v Speaker 3>Well know, but this particular time, we're just getting shot at.
<v Speaker 3>I know, the empty whoa he take it hes there
<v Speaker 3>any ugly. I didn't take it easy. I've got a
<v Speaker 3>gun that was brilliant. I have one more trivia question.
<v Speaker 4>What was the what was the thing he says to
<v Speaker 4>Guy does homelessay like, oh like you said some like
<v Speaker 4>if I had my gun on shoot you or something.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you don't.
<v Speaker 3>My last question, we're going back to the stadium. How
<v Speaker 3>much valet parking cost at the stadium?
<v Speaker 2>Oh, good question. I have no idea.
<v Speaker 4>I'm yeah. I mean I remember the valets showing up
<v Speaker 4>and the cars on fire and he heads the keys
<v Speaker 4>on it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is ten dollars for valet parking. It seems
<v Speaker 2>pretty cheap.
<v Speaker 3>We're getting a lot of good When when did this
<v Speaker 3>episode are that's ninety seven. Yeah, we're getting a lot
<v Speaker 3>of good nineties prices in this, because when x con
<v Speaker 3>Security comes in and says like, we can do this
<v Speaker 3>to your windows for five hundred bucks, I'm.
<v Speaker 2>Like, what a what a deal? Even from x Consecurity,
<v Speaker 2>you're getting a bar. I was like, that's pretty cheap.
<v Speaker 2>It was like, I can't afford that. I'm like, huh.
<v Speaker 3>In the sense that we were looking to you as
<v Speaker 3>the exemplar of middle class.
<v Speaker 4>Living and the bargain, the bargain of units to get
<v Speaker 4>a product that seals your windows completely, it means you
<v Speaker 4>can't breathe.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the suffocation one, all right. Final one for
<v Speaker 2>me is what's the address of Patty and Summer? What
<v Speaker 2>room number are they?
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Are they? Is it ten?
<v Speaker 2>No, it's fifteen ninety nine. That might have been Marge's
<v Speaker 2>room maybe at the at the hotel. Oh yes, by
<v Speaker 2>the way, shout out to the Sleep Easy motel.
<v Speaker 3>It's a great visual gag and everyone knows it. But
<v Speaker 3>the light's blinking at the Sleep Easy and it becomes sleazy.
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure the Sleep Easy Motel has been mentioned before,
<v Speaker 2>and I wonder if they've actually used that gag before
<v Speaker 2>it feels familiar, like the title of a hotel used
<v Speaker 2>purely because they want to get that gag absolutely. All right, well,
<v Speaker 2>let's get our skimming through of the episode. So original
<v Speaker 2>edit of the episode was November two, nineteen ninety seven,
<v Speaker 2>written by John Swartswater, directed by Pete Michael's chopboard gag.
<v Speaker 2>Everyone is tired of that Richard Gear story. You want
<v Speaker 2>to tell what the Richard Gear story is? Even everyone's
<v Speaker 2>a really tired of it.
<v Speaker 3>The Richard Gear story is apparently, when Richard Gear was
<v Speaker 3>a young footlost and fancy free and looking for shall
<v Speaker 3>we say, sexual thrills.
<v Speaker 2>Part of those sexual thrills might.
<v Speaker 3>Have involved a Gerbil going somewhere a Gerbil shouldn't. This
<v Speaker 3>story was apparently spread by Sylvester Stallone. This is a rumor, allegedly,
<v Speaker 3>just allegedly.
<v Speaker 4>It's a rumor that Silvista Stallone spread it or the.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's Stallone spread it because he had beef
<v Speaker 3>with Richard Gear back in the day. Apparently they were
<v Speaker 3>like sort of strangely enough going up for the same parts.
<v Speaker 2>And so it's just bizarre enough where you're like, fuck,
<v Speaker 2>it might.
<v Speaker 3>Be real Hollywood in the seventies could have been everyone's
<v Speaker 3>coaked up. It could be doing just better and it
<v Speaker 3>just gained legs over time. Well yeah, and yeah, everyone
<v Speaker 3>saw that Richard Giarsory, especially Richard gear not to mention
<v Speaker 3>the gerbil.
<v Speaker 2>Yes and the cash gag. Everyone has their backsides on fire.
<v Speaker 2>They run into the captures that has water in it
<v Speaker 2>and it puts out to the puts out the fire.
<v Speaker 2>So the episode kicks off with the ad that you
<v Speaker 2>mentioned earlier, Ray, the Continental Soccer Association. It's got fast kicking,
<v Speaker 2>low scoring and tires. You bet. And let's just discuss
<v Speaker 2>the perception of soccer because never admitted that they didn't
<v Speaker 2>really know all too much. And apparently I think it's
<v Speaker 2>the referee. Maybe the referee the design of him is
<v Speaker 2>the janitor at the Simpsons studios who basically told the
<v Speaker 2>director everything he knows about soccer, so you can actually
<v Speaker 2>design it. I mean, this is not so. This is
<v Speaker 2>thirty years ago, right, and even in Australia. I'm not
<v Speaker 2>too sure what it was like in New Zealand. But
<v Speaker 2>soccer just was not a big sport and it's getting
<v Speaker 2>it's getting more popular here. It's still know when in
<v Speaker 2>the level of our homegrown sports. But it's growing. Of course,
<v Speaker 2>the Matilda's got a lot to do with that soccer
<v Speaker 2>reason and whatnot. But in America it's also growing slightly,
<v Speaker 2>but it's never going to be on the level of
<v Speaker 2>their sports. But it just coming out of this, did
<v Speaker 2>you feel like they was just taking the piss out
<v Speaker 2>of soccer?
<v Speaker 4>I think there's no other way to look at it.
<v Speaker 4>There's no one.
<v Speaker 3>What I'm thinking is I think they're really tickled by
<v Speaker 3>the economy of what you see on the field, or
<v Speaker 3>what you frequently see on the field, which is a lot, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>a fair bit of passing. Yeah, it's it's not exactly
<v Speaker 3>grid iron crashing.
<v Speaker 2>Into one another.
<v Speaker 3>It's not modernday Gladiator or something like that. But your
<v Speaker 3>contrast that with the extreme enthusiasm that some commentators will
<v Speaker 3>have and as they demonstrated.
<v Speaker 2>So great that moment he passes, it's holds it hold?
<v Speaker 2>How are you excited to buy? But that that moment
<v Speaker 2>there was Brockman and I'm gonna say the Spanish commentator,
<v Speaker 2>maybe it is like the perfect just encapsulation of what
<v Speaker 2>it's like for a non soccer fan watching soccer. It's
<v Speaker 2>like how are you this excited over this? That's the
<v Speaker 2>thing for many sports though, if you don't understand the rules,
<v Speaker 2>then you just don't understand what you watching it. I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure I don't understand the rules of soccer and football
<v Speaker 2>for other our UK listeners. If I understood the rules,
<v Speaker 2>I'll probably enjoy it more. But still we always fall
<v Speaker 2>back in the mill old draw. What's the point?
<v Speaker 3>I don't know when I went on watching like NRL
<v Speaker 3>or something. I mean, I've only watched a few NRL games.
<v Speaker 3>It's like you could put a gun to my head
<v Speaker 3>and I could not explain the rules of this game.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you had to turn down a career as
<v Speaker 2>a professional footballer for philosophy, right, right? Is that what happened?
<v Speaker 4>I actually did. I actually did do soccer when I
<v Speaker 4>was a kid. But even still I couldn't explain the
<v Speaker 4>rules to you, Like I just I just don't know
<v Speaker 4>sports at all, which I wonder is why it This
<v Speaker 4>bit appeals to me so much because obviously they knew
<v Speaker 4>very little about soccer as well. Apart from they knew
<v Speaker 4>it was seemed to be a boring game to watch,
<v Speaker 4>but the fans' passion was exceedingly high and the commentator.
<v Speaker 4>The commentators. There's another gig from this episode that really
<v Speaker 4>stuck with me, and I think was even in my
<v Speaker 4>like in the school yard and stuff, like other kids
<v Speaker 4>would say, you know, holds it, holds it, you know.
<v Speaker 4>I think the immediate contrast between King Brockman and the
<v Speaker 4>other guy, you could their jokes under. Kids can understand
<v Speaker 4>that this idea that the yeah that that King Brockman
<v Speaker 4>so so bored of this other guys. I think he's
<v Speaker 4>watching the best game of his life.
<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was a kid too, there was
<v Speaker 2>always a perception of if you played soccer, it's because
<v Speaker 2>you were too soft to play contact sports.
<v Speaker 1>Oh.
<v Speaker 2>It was just like, oh, you played soccer, you're not
<v Speaker 2>tough enough to play football. I was like, oh, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't play I didn't play soccer. Anybody. I was like,
<v Speaker 2>go easy. And those kids, I mean, they don't want
<v Speaker 2>to get tackle.
<v Speaker 3>That probably don't want CT.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm willing to put my hands up. I was
<v Speaker 4>too soft to play football, but you were on soccer.
<v Speaker 3>You were hardcoreing up for philosophy, Yes, exactly.
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<v Speaker 2>difficulties to come with being Like when you're doing a debate,
<v Speaker 2>like do you have any fears like being mid debate
<v Speaker 2>not being able to come up with a response like
<v Speaker 2>do you Did you ever have moments like that?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Obviously as a philosophy you can sustain a lot
<v Speaker 4>of injuries. You know, hit ache, something bit on the
<v Speaker 4>tip of your tongue and you can't call.
<v Speaker 2>It injuries to your in a soul.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you never. So in philosophy, listen to classes, you
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't do debates so much like I mean, you wouldn't
<v Speaker 4>have arguments, but also in quite like structured debates where
<v Speaker 4>you know there's set of set of teams on either
<v Speaker 4>side arguing and stuff. When I used to run tutorials,
<v Speaker 4>I would some times do that to try to force
<v Speaker 4>the kids to adopt positions they didn't necessarily agree with
<v Speaker 4>and stuff. But it's more what's the words, it's more
<v Speaker 4>gentle than that. So even in the philosophy class, I
<v Speaker 4>wasn't doing the extremes of debating. I was I was
<v Speaker 4>too soft for that.
<v Speaker 3>Are you more sort of nudging towards a consensus or
<v Speaker 3>a common ground or yeah?
<v Speaker 4>I guess well it's more yeah, not necessarily a consensus
<v Speaker 4>because you know, depends on the class size. And also
<v Speaker 4>you would never ever get agreement amongst everyone because people
<v Speaker 4>just have different opinions and different base intuitions about the thing.
<v Speaker 4>But it was a lot of like, you know, especially
<v Speaker 4>an ethic to be something like you know, a professor
<v Speaker 4>would present an idea and someone would say, oh, well
<v Speaker 4>that's wrong because of this, and then the professor would
<v Speaker 4>you know, present a counter example, and then you know,
<v Speaker 4>someone else would have to try and reply on stuff,
<v Speaker 4>and and.
<v Speaker 2>Usual I think, I am.
<v Speaker 4>How do you do?
<v Speaker 2>You? You have to approach it differently when you said, sometimes
<v Speaker 2>you give your students they have to make an argument
<v Speaker 2>for something they don't actually believe, is what they truly believe, Like,
<v Speaker 2>did you have that moment where you have to you
<v Speaker 2>have to make an argument for something that you didn't
<v Speaker 2>actually agree with. How do you approach that differently?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm trying to remember. I mean I would have
<v Speaker 4>had to in classes and things like that. But normally
<v Speaker 4>in philosophy, I guess the essays you end up writing it's,
<v Speaker 4>you know, pick a position or pick someone pick a
<v Speaker 4>topic and write you know, what you think about it
<v Speaker 4>and stuff. But often ye was you'd have to try
<v Speaker 4>and carefully think about your opponent's position and then try
<v Speaker 4>and sort of detail why it's wrong or why they
<v Speaker 4>were committed to some sort of a logical thing that
<v Speaker 4>they then they really should be embarrassed to believe and stuff.
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I felt like a big well, I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I personally felt like an important part of the class
<v Speaker 4>was making sure you're aware of what people you disagree
<v Speaker 4>with thought and and why, and being able to understand
<v Speaker 4>why they thought that or and to critique them properly,
<v Speaker 4>you know, don't straw man them, don't misrepresent their position.
<v Speaker 4>And then another big issue that I noticed this is
<v Speaker 4>getting deep in the weeds of philosophy class now, but
<v Speaker 4>you know, like for example, it's why people tune in
<v Speaker 4>people come to the Simpsons podcast to listen to in
<v Speaker 4>depth discussions about what a Wellington philosophy tutorials.
<v Speaker 2>Were like, keep going please, But.
<v Speaker 4>There I distinctly remember, at least with my first year students.
<v Speaker 4>You know, we'd be say, we're discussing a topic like abortion.
<v Speaker 4>I remember we discussed three different philosophers and all of
<v Speaker 4>them had different arguments, but in I guess in support
<v Speaker 4>of the what you'd call the pro choice position. I suppose,
<v Speaker 4>or they thought abortion was morally permissible. But they all
<v Speaker 4>had very different reasons why, and they would all disagree
<v Speaker 4>with each other, and you know, they had very fundamentally
<v Speaker 4>different outlooks and disagree and often the students were very
<v Speaker 4>bad at being like it's very easy to just be like, oh,
<v Speaker 4>they all agree, so it must all be the same,
<v Speaker 4>or you'd have to be like, oh no, no, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 4>these three people hate each other. It just so happens
<v Speaker 4>they've arrived at the same conclusion. And there was there's
<v Speaker 4>a lot of things that you know, understand the reasoning
<v Speaker 4>it how someone got to a position.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as a possible mage, I'm going to ask you
<v Speaker 2>this one question. Then, Now, when did the Simpsons Golden
<v Speaker 2>era through the end.
<v Speaker 4>That's a good that's a good question. I think it
<v Speaker 4>is end of season nine. I think I think season
<v Speaker 4>ten is when it starts to produce more episodes of
<v Speaker 4>maybe lower quality than high. I think I think it's
<v Speaker 4>I think it's season ten. It's season ten, the one
<v Speaker 4>where they were Homer crash lands in Alec Baldwin's house.
<v Speaker 2>That sounds like it's a season ten one.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Yeah, Okay, then I think I might. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I'm standing by the by my position.
<v Speaker 2>That's the Ron Howard gag at the end there again, So.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, your your argument is fundamentally flawed, morally, ethically, intellectually bankrupt.
<v Speaker 2>You're right. I do feel like that's the point where
<v Speaker 2>the show went from consistently just like Banger Banger Banger two,
<v Speaker 2>oh good moments throughout the episodes, but not overall a
<v Speaker 2>really entertaining episode.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, And I mean i'd have to. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>when I was doing my rewatch, I did stop at nine.
<v Speaker 4>And I think the only reason I can remember that
<v Speaker 4>is I think I must have watched one or two
<v Speaker 4>episodes of season ten on a plane or something and
<v Speaker 4>be like, oh, okay, something's something's happened to here something.
<v Speaker 2>Well, they did change the direction of the show. Mike
<v Speaker 2>Scaley took over in season nine. He basically just he
<v Speaker 2>took the approach of this is your work day, so
<v Speaker 2>you can go home at five o'clock and see your
<v Speaker 2>families for dinner, where it used to be No, you
<v Speaker 2>guys are staying here until we get the right fucking
<v Speaker 2>joke going home. You're going to live in this writer's room.
<v Speaker 2>And he made a more balanced work life, which was
<v Speaker 2>great for the writers, but I feel like the Simpson's
<v Speaker 2>quality suffered as a result. But he also changed the direction.
<v Speaker 2>That's where Joe Assomer was born. It was just becoming
<v Speaker 2>a bit of an idiot, became more of a cartoon.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, I justtinctly remember they're listened. There's a lot
<v Speaker 4>of TV shows like that. Like I think Dan Harmon
<v Speaker 4>on Community would run his riders late and late into
<v Speaker 4>the night and everyone just be stuck in the writer's
<v Speaker 4>room and he'd feel guilty and he'd be like, the
<v Speaker 4>show has to be really, really good because I know
<v Speaker 4>all the writers of Glee are going home at five
<v Speaker 4>to see their families. I need to make sure that's
<v Speaker 4>the thing.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the more tyrannical show runners and all the more
<v Speaker 3>driven creative people tend to be, often to the detriment
<v Speaker 3>of their personal lives. It's a sad thing. But yeah,
<v Speaker 3>often the quality of their material.
<v Speaker 2>Can to be a bit better. Yes, and that's not always.
<v Speaker 3>The case, but I think you'll find maybe more often
<v Speaker 3>than not, that it is the case.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I didn't realize this. I didn't realize about the
<v Speaker 4>tyrannical or the change and that there was a workplace
<v Speaker 4>culture shifted and the Simpsons. I didn't realize that happened.
<v Speaker 4>And I know people, I mean you guys have probably
<v Speaker 4>discussed this to death, but I know there's currently a
<v Speaker 4>debate emerging or a discussion emrgin that the Simpsons are
<v Speaker 4>starting to get good again or there's become an uptick
<v Speaker 4>and quality in the more recent seasons and have you guys.
<v Speaker 2>We just threw out our We did the premiere or
<v Speaker 2>review of the premiere of season thirty seven, which came
<v Speaker 2>out about three weeks ago, and it's really good, pleasantly surprimed.
<v Speaker 2>It's like, nothing's going to be on the level of
<v Speaker 2>the first note three to nine seasons, right, not on
<v Speaker 2>that level, So don't expect if you go in not
<v Speaker 2>expecting that you'll be fine. But it's just they've they've
<v Speaker 2>found the heart to the story again, more emotion to
<v Speaker 2>the story, just for a good period there. We often
<v Speaker 2>say are writing jokes and assigning it to a character
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to writing a joke for a character. And
<v Speaker 2>now it feels like they've really gone back to their
<v Speaker 2>roots and they're all the jokes and all the stories
<v Speaker 2>just feel true to who's saying the jokes, and just yeah,
<v Speaker 2>the story is really entertaining and I really enjoyed it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So the last i'll say last two seas in particular,
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they really started to sort of shift
<v Speaker 2>back to the way things.
<v Speaker 4>Were fantastic here. There was one there was one season.
<v Speaker 4>I watched a couple of episodes, the one that it
<v Speaker 4>opens with Conan O'Brien hosting the Simpsons finale.
<v Speaker 2>That was last year.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was last year. And then there was one
<v Speaker 4>where Marge was anxious about school photo day. I wasn't
<v Speaker 4>maybe not necessarily a super funny episode, but I remember
<v Speaker 4>a head like I really enjoyed it. And then and
<v Speaker 4>then they've done some I guess, more high conceved episodes
<v Speaker 4>later on that I've been fond of, like the the
<v Speaker 4>is it called the Serious Flanders The Yeah, the two parter,
<v Speaker 4>which is a Fargo parody or whatever.
<v Speaker 7>That.
<v Speaker 4>Like, episodes like that I think are phenomenal.
<v Speaker 2>And that's what they're doing more of now. So Matt Salmon,
<v Speaker 2>who was now the showmoner of the show, he's big
<v Speaker 2>on the format bending episodes like that, Like he was
<v Speaker 2>a Trilogy of Error, the Linguo, Yeah, I love that one.
<v Speaker 2>So so he's big on those kinds of episodes. And
<v Speaker 2>now I reckon it's probably five or six a season
<v Speaker 2>now where there's just you know, from the get go, okay,
<v Speaker 2>this isn't going to be a normal episod. It's almost
<v Speaker 2>like a non horror treos of horror. And he just
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it for what it is, and it's just a
<v Speaker 2>lot more fun because after thirty seven years, they're running
<v Speaker 2>out of ideas obviously. So yeah, but I am yeah,
<v Speaker 2>season thirty seven of the PREMI yere I really enjoyed it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wow, fantastic, Well you have they wouldn't be running
<v Speaker 3>out of ideas because life has always changed, and that's
<v Speaker 3>what we actually mentioned in that review.
<v Speaker 2>It feels like they've shifted the timeline of The Simpsons
<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of this season. So basically what happens
<v Speaker 2>is Marge has the TV breaks. The TV breaks, now
<v Speaker 2>she turns off the TV because there's too many commercials
<v Speaker 2>on streaming, so she turns off the TV. So we're
<v Speaker 2>getting the DVD's out, and she's busted the DVD's of
<v Speaker 2>this old TV show that used to watch, and they
<v Speaker 2>binge watch it and it's a Dawson's Creek parody. But
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like the Simpsons a Margin Homer were teens
<v Speaker 2>or growing up sorry in the nineties, so it's almost
<v Speaker 2>like now, if my kids are watching it, that makes
<v Speaker 2>timeline sense wise because Margin Homer and my age and
<v Speaker 2>I grew up in the nineties. So Margin Homer now
<v Speaker 2>in Cannon grew up in the nineties because when I
<v Speaker 2>was watching as a kid in the nineties, Margin Homer
<v Speaker 2>and my parents age who grew up in the seventies.
<v Speaker 2>So now it's almost like they've shifted the timeline twenty
<v Speaker 2>years forward. So that makes more sense for younger view
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like they've just recreated the show again. It's
<v Speaker 2>it's really interesting.
<v Speaker 4>Oh great, great, Yeah, so I do. I mean, maybe
<v Speaker 4>I'm just stuck in my ways. But the idea of
<v Speaker 4>seeing Lisa and Bard and stuff with iPods and you know,
<v Speaker 4>then we're using smartphones and stuff. It always seems so
<v Speaker 4>off off to me. But I know you need it.
<v Speaker 4>They need it. They've always had a floating timeline to
<v Speaker 4>keep up with modern events, but it always just SIPs
<v Speaker 4>so bizarre.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, one thing we also touched on in that
<v Speaker 2>episode in particular, was when I used to have iPods
<v Speaker 2>and things like that. They made it a joke, like
<v Speaker 2>it's my point, and they made it like a thing like,
<v Speaker 2>well look at look where we're hip. Where we're with
<v Speaker 2>it with current technology. But they use current technology in
<v Speaker 2>this new episode. But it wasn't the gag. It was
<v Speaker 2>just that were just using it. That's what That's what
<v Speaker 2>kids use now. It's not a joke. It's just they
<v Speaker 2>get out their phones and they get at this, and
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, this just feels like kids in twenty
<v Speaker 2>twenty five.
<v Speaker 4>You know.
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a lesson that we've learned as we've
<v Speaker 3>sort of progressed in the twenty first century and realized
<v Speaker 3>that okay, look, tech is part of our lives. Is
<v Speaker 3>always going to be some new gadget, some new device
<v Speaker 3>rather than go the internet. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yes, yes,
<v Speaker 3>I mean not five years now, five minutes from now
<v Speaker 3>going to look like a chump, so you might as
<v Speaker 3>well just yeah, just incorporated into the storyline is like,
<v Speaker 3>this is the way we operate now, and if you know,
<v Speaker 3>ten years from now, people go, remember we used to
<v Speaker 3>have that thing where we trace our kids using our phones,
<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, sure that's what happened, you know, But when
<v Speaker 3>we're not saying, check out this whacky new device. Wow,
<v Speaker 3>how wild is it? Living in the future. That's ridiculous.
<v Speaker 2>It's the same with comedy too. You have to change
<v Speaker 2>your approach in the way you promote your shows. You
<v Speaker 2>Social media is a big thing now. That's probably the
<v Speaker 2>biggest tool now for marketing new shows, right.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, one hundred percent, yeah, yeah, yes, And I mean
<v Speaker 4>speak yourself.
<v Speaker 3>I've got a very nice handwritten letter from racing coming
<v Speaker 3>to John.
<v Speaker 4>Tell your friends personal flyers, I'm startings. I've got pigeons
<v Speaker 4>carrying notes, you know, yeah, one hundred percent. And I mean,
<v Speaker 4>you know, old comedian or commedians from previous generations, so
<v Speaker 4>I really respect you know, they obviously hate social media,
<v Speaker 4>and we all hate social media to an extent. But unfortunately,
<v Speaker 4>refusing to go on social media or doing any kind
<v Speaker 4>of marketing through social media would be the same as
<v Speaker 4>you know, refusing to appear on a radio show back
<v Speaker 4>in the fifties or whatever, or refusing to appear on
<v Speaker 4>TV in the nineties, and they were all willing to
<v Speaker 4>do that, and there's just social media has now replaced
<v Speaker 4>that or usurped it, you know, there's no more what's
<v Speaker 4>my line for me to hit me to appear.
<v Speaker 3>On Yeah, Well, like a handgun ray, social media is
<v Speaker 3>a tool that can be used a good or.
<v Speaker 2>Bad, nice segway, So back to.
<v Speaker 7>That.
<v Speaker 2>Basically, here, what happens is they all bought it the
<v Speaker 2>soccer and they realized quickly they don't understand what's going on,
<v Speaker 2>and then nothing's happening to them, and a riot breaks out.
<v Speaker 2>Just their way of saying, riots breakout soccer all the time.
<v Speaker 2>That's a known thing, like soccer riots, and they break
<v Speaker 2>out because they're bored, That's what they're basically saying here.
<v Speaker 2>And I really liked in the riot that doctor Hibbittt
<v Speaker 2>was beating up doctor Nie.
<v Speaker 4>So I noticed that.
<v Speaker 3>Legitimate medicine beats junk medicine.
<v Speaker 4>It's so funny that the ride begins because they're all
<v Speaker 4>trying to exit, and n is so worried. There's plenty
<v Speaker 4>of exits for everyone else.
<v Speaker 2>I particularly also like just when they were board, it's
<v Speaker 2>just quiet, and his home is the abnoxiou jet. The
<v Speaker 2>standard boring.
<v Speaker 7>Half back passes to the center, back to the wing,
<v Speaker 7>back to the center center, holds it, holds it.
<v Speaker 2>Holds it, half.
<v Speaker 1>Buck bassist, center back, the wing back to center, center
<v Speaker 1>holds it holds it holds it.
<v Speaker 2>So everyone leaves as you're saying, I love the guy
<v Speaker 2>with the valet picks up his carp as everyone the
<v Speaker 2>whole place is falling apart.
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, that's another great gag that's just about to come
<v Speaker 4>with where Kim Brockmans is May Quimby I made quimbly,
<v Speaker 4>swiftly to.
<v Speaker 2>Clear every family for themselves.
<v Speaker 4>Such good, right, I mean, that's and that is the
<v Speaker 4>yea what I love in comedies. And I think with
<v Speaker 4>the rise in dramatis, you're sadly seeing fear and fear
<v Speaker 4>of it. But I just love a comedy where every
<v Speaker 4>line they've squeezed a gag and every every vision there's
<v Speaker 4>like a little bit of a joke or something, you know,
<v Speaker 4>and they're just, you know, worked, they've clearly worked so
<v Speaker 4>so hard to make every moment of the show super
<v Speaker 4>super funny.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we were viewing season twenty one of the
<v Speaker 2>shot at the moment, we're going through in order and
<v Speaker 2>we get to some lines and we go, that's fine,
<v Speaker 2>but it feels like there could have been a joke there. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but you just either a time where you couldn't be bothered,
<v Speaker 2>and he feels like, this is season seven, there would
<v Speaker 2>have been two jokes here in this one line, even
<v Speaker 2>to squeeze in.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's exact music because they've used it
<v Speaker 3>on more than one occasion, but the mock time Star Trek,
<v Speaker 3>they don't quite have it during the during the soccer ride,
<v Speaker 3>but it's close enough that you go, I've.
<v Speaker 2>Used it before.
<v Speaker 3>This is just you know, short this usually chaos. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>shortham for chaos.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But yeah, so he said it's mobile. As we're saying,
<v Speaker 2>Home says he's got his own alarm system and it's
<v Speaker 2>just the fish. Much like watch the fish. Someone someone's
<v Speaker 2>trying to break it, Just watch the fish.
<v Speaker 4>I was lucky at that. Trying to figure out what
<v Speaker 4>it could have. I was like, there's like it's it's
<v Speaker 4>really cleverly designed. Shout out to whover drew it. And
<v Speaker 4>you know designed it because there's the alarm clock, so
<v Speaker 4>you're like, so there's like an element of it where
<v Speaker 4>you're like, okay, there is an alarm here, so.
<v Speaker 2>It's meant to be alarming, and that someone at the door,
<v Speaker 2>they're already aware. Just watch the fish though. The next day,
<v Speaker 2>ex con hope security from the big House to your house.
<v Speaker 2>He's arrived and he's going to try and them a
<v Speaker 2>security system, and he's saying, you're just stealing Shit's a cigarette,
<v Speaker 2>takes TV, not the TV, just the TV remote. It
<v Speaker 2>just has to steal something. But he's basically just saying
<v Speaker 2>that you can't put a price on your kids, on
<v Speaker 2>your family safety, you've got I think it's a loose
<v Speaker 2>sight you're going to put around the windows and stuff
<v Speaker 2>occasionally see them in here. And Homer's like, we'll take it,
<v Speaker 2>but unfortunate it's five hundred dollars, so we can't afford it,
<v Speaker 2>and just throws him out, and surely you can put
<v Speaker 2>a price in your family's lives. Yeah, well I thought
<v Speaker 2>so I would have thought it, but.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we Yeah, it's another grade. Homer interacting with a
<v Speaker 4>handy man on his front door set is the one.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's when the basement floods and it's just a
<v Speaker 4>simple fifty cent or fifty cents bolesorn up that he
<v Speaker 4>needs to screw it, and he goes, no, no, no
<v Speaker 4>can upsell me because I've got I'll just go grab
<v Speaker 4>it for yourself.
<v Speaker 2>That's the that's the stone Cutter episode. And then and
<v Speaker 2>then it turns out the guy who just like turned
<v Speaker 2>you stone cut I'll fix it for you. Marge's worried.
<v Speaker 2>He says, we need protection. Homer says, I guarantee protection.
<v Speaker 2>Cut to him at Blood barb and Beyond. He's going
<v Speaker 2>to get himself a gun. And I was six next
<v Speaker 2>to the sympathy card.
<v Speaker 3>Not just any gun. You're deadliest gun.
<v Speaker 2>Nobody says you dead this gun. Yes. So he come
<v Speaker 2>back from commercial and Homer he's got the point of
<v Speaker 2>view point in the gun. So it's twice in the
<v Speaker 2>episode he's pointing the gun directly the camera turns it
<v Speaker 2>to Wise Guy and pulls the trigger like several times,
<v Speaker 2>like did he know it wasn't loaded. It's not just
<v Speaker 2>it's like he tries to annihilight this man.
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, sorry, I got little nerdy cyber. This reminded
<v Speaker 3>me of something. I was watching this documentary on the
<v Speaker 3>weekend called Mister Scorsese.
<v Speaker 2>I saw yeh tweet about it a few times.
<v Speaker 3>Fantastic doc. I highly recommended. But of course he's the
<v Speaker 3>director of Taxi Driver. I remembering this anecdote about Paul Trader,
<v Speaker 3>the writer a Taxi Driver. Now this was either before
<v Speaker 3>they made the movie just afterwards, but like went to
<v Speaker 3>a gun store in Beverly Hills, got his hands on
<v Speaker 3>a little handgun and he sort of he's just waving
<v Speaker 3>it around in the shop, like putting people in his sights,
<v Speaker 3>and all the people that were like if anyone should
<v Speaker 3>not own a gun, it's this man, right, It's like
<v Speaker 3>the writer of Taxi Driver.
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if the Simpsons Swatsworld knew that. Oh god,
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's the pull go easy there and the
<v Speaker 2>ugly who was a apparently famous sharpshooter from Buffalo Bills
<v Speaker 2>whild West in the eighteen hundred. Yeah that's right, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Trick shot. Yeah, she's a constant reference. I watched the
<v Speaker 4>TV show Jippardy and she's a constant answer and the
<v Speaker 4>very big in the American education system. She must maybe any.
<v Speaker 3>We're not learning the ABC's, but we learn the ant.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe any get your gun? That might be oh.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay. Anyway, So Jeopardy, what's what's the like of
<v Speaker 2>the new host? Now? Is it the same to be?
<v Speaker 2>My wife and I big fans of Wheel of Fortune?
<v Speaker 2>Call me crazy?
<v Speaker 4>Right?
<v Speaker 2>And then they changed the host and I'm like, it
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't feel the same anymore.
<v Speaker 4>From Pep to Ryan Seacrest.
<v Speaker 2>He's not Pat Sajag.
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Tribec's not hosting Jeopardy anymore.
<v Speaker 4>By the way, is okay?
<v Speaker 2>So I get I've told you three times he's dead.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know he was sick.
<v Speaker 3>Gameshow wonnans who are no longer alive for two hundred dollars.
<v Speaker 4>So I started watching after the Tripic era, So I
<v Speaker 4>really yah? Wow, So I haven't I never got to
<v Speaker 4>I guess get used to him. But obviously his stature
<v Speaker 4>looms and he was obviously very good. But I do
<v Speaker 4>think the current host, King Jennings, who's a former Jeopardy champion,
<v Speaker 4>current game show champion and a mirror or you know,
<v Speaker 4>he's got a record. We've got one of the records
<v Speaker 4>for winning the most money and game show history. Anyway,
<v Speaker 4>he's very good at noses stuff.
<v Speaker 2>So you're like a you're like a kid saying I
<v Speaker 2>only watched season thirty one with that golden era, the
<v Speaker 2>era of Jeopardy with it only post movie for me,
<v Speaker 2>thanks the rest of that.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, ask you questions about the nineties now, whereas I
<v Speaker 4>should go back to the nineties and watched the watch
<v Speaker 4>the Usk question.
<v Speaker 2>What's your thoughts on the Simpsons getting a second movie?
<v Speaker 2>Do you have memories of the first movie when it
<v Speaker 2>came out?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, very yeah, very distinct movies. I remember I had
<v Speaker 4>a friend who wasn't allowed to go, and his parents
<v Speaker 4>or his host family rather made him go and watch
<v Speaker 4>Amazing Grace, the anti slavery film instead.
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't allowed to you how old was he at
<v Speaker 2>the time.
<v Speaker 4>It was, yeah, my age, so that's yeah, well we
<v Speaker 4>were in high school. Yeah, so we were Yeah, I
<v Speaker 4>mean the rest of us with no parental guardians.
<v Speaker 3>So you're going to be warped by an animated penis?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I remember that. I remember that was like a
<v Speaker 4>huge like that was crazy. I think that, I guess
<v Speaker 4>because it had been such a it was a kind
<v Speaker 4>of a trope in the Simpsons before that they would always,
<v Speaker 4>you know, whenever a character was naked, that always so
<v Speaker 4>carefully hide the.
<v Speaker 2>Full front of you the bum some powers of that ship.
<v Speaker 4>Yah, yes, exactly. But then in the movie just just
<v Speaker 4>suddenly they just were like for our hot stick.
<v Speaker 2>And Wang a child's waging too, So you're like, it's funny,
<v Speaker 2>but it's like also awkward. I'm living out of ten
<v Speaker 2>year old's will you what are we doing here?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I remember, I remember loving it, and I don't
<v Speaker 4>know how. I think I've only ever really watched it
<v Speaker 4>once since then, so I don't I can't really comment
<v Speaker 4>on it, but I remember really really enjoying it. I
<v Speaker 4>remember the gag right at the start where Homer stands
<v Speaker 4>up and says, hey, we're watching a movie of a
<v Speaker 4>TV show we could be at home watching for free
<v Speaker 4>or you know that's.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was it was a giant sucker, including you.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Ray, just so you know, Ray, we are clipping
<v Speaker 3>that bit where Dano said and by the way, it's
<v Speaker 3>a ten year old's penis and you're saying, yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>really like that, So I hope you' enjoying your cancelation, buddy.
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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven premier episode we're talking about before starts with
<v Speaker 2>the family driving to the cinema for the premiere night
<v Speaker 2>of a new movie, and Bart says on the way,
<v Speaker 2>I think of all these jerks that are waiting for
<v Speaker 2>three days to watch it for free on streaming, and
<v Speaker 2>they slam the braakes, turn around and go home again.
<v Speaker 2>It's a very similar game.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah great, but yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to it.
<v Speaker 4>Like again, it sounds like the Simpsons are sort of
<v Speaker 4>having a renaissance. I guess you'd say they're improving. And
<v Speaker 4>then for something like a movie. I do think they'll
<v Speaker 4>try and bring the A game and bring you know, rewrite,
<v Speaker 4>and so I'm I'm positively predisposed. And even the fact
<v Speaker 4>that they've waited this long makes me, I don't know,
<v Speaker 4>it does so, I mean sometimes then whening that long
<v Speaker 4>makes it seem like it's gonna be even more of
<v Speaker 4>a shameless cash grab and they're just but I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I feel like, I don't know. They brought the A
<v Speaker 4>game for the Simpsons movie, and I think they produced
<v Speaker 4>a really fun movie at a time when the show
<v Speaker 4>maybe wasn't at its peak, and now that the show's
<v Speaker 4>improving and they're going to do another movie, and I
<v Speaker 4>feel like the way people are talking now about the
<v Speaker 4>Simpsons is it could be its last hurrah. Like people
<v Speaker 4>are saying, maybe after this four season renewal, the show
<v Speaker 4>might end, so you know, this could be you know,
<v Speaker 4>this last big moment. So yeah, hopefully they stick the landing.
<v Speaker 2>Call me crazy, I've got a theory for this new
<v Speaker 2>renaissance of the Simpsons, right, So, for the longest time,
<v Speaker 2>because you're big in the Simpsons mean groups, you're aware
<v Speaker 2>that their mentality is new Simpsons.
<v Speaker 4>Shit.
<v Speaker 2>Oh Simpson's good. Right now, A lot of people are saying,
<v Speaker 2>you know what, new Simpsons an't so bad? Ye know, well, whatever,
<v Speaker 2>it's fine. I think what's happened is we grew up
<v Speaker 2>with the show. We stopped watching the show. A lot
<v Speaker 2>of people stopped watching the show, and then even though
<v Speaker 2>they weren't watching it, they were just saying it's bad,
<v Speaker 2>even though they weren't actually watching it. And then these
<v Speaker 2>people got older and they got married and they had kids,
<v Speaker 2>and then they wanted to introduce their kids to the Simpsons,
<v Speaker 2>and they introduced them to the Golden episodes, a Golden
<v Speaker 2>Episodes and whatnot. And then these kids, like my kids
<v Speaker 2>went what are the new Ones? And they put on
<v Speaker 2>the new ones and these people who for all this
<v Speaker 2>time were saying new Ones are no good, actually sat
<v Speaker 2>down and watched the new Ones with their kids and
<v Speaker 2>see their kids enjoying it, and they finally realized, oh shit,
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, these new episodes are for the kids,
<v Speaker 2>not for me. And they've finally realized, oh, maybe they're
<v Speaker 2>not so bad. And that's what's happened.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, one hundred percent. And I do think while I
<v Speaker 4>met there's a droppn quality. I think, ye, the way
<v Speaker 4>some people talk about the dropping quality online is quite extreme,
<v Speaker 4>but I do still think, you know, it is still
<v Speaker 4>the Simpsons, and it is still a bitter than what
<v Speaker 4>a lot of others sitcoms on TV, you know, like
<v Speaker 4>even I mean, I mean, well, there are some really
<v Speaker 4>trashy episodes of the Simpsons, but like, you know, an average,
<v Speaker 4>you know, mid tier Simpsons episode is still going to
<v Speaker 4>be a lot better than you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, some man standing exactly, yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, some of the gunk that you know, you just
<v Speaker 4>almost make that tim Ellen Grum.
<v Speaker 2>Just I've been known to an occasion, I mean, I'm
<v Speaker 2>a fantasy amount and I watch one of these what
<v Speaker 2>these new show was, Shifting Gears. I've got like two
<v Speaker 2>episodes in. I was like, ah, this is just mate exactly.
<v Speaker 2>And the Simpsons, I don't think has ever truly been
<v Speaker 2>that bad, you know.
<v Speaker 4>So that's all.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, that's just my theory that the people
<v Speaker 2>have gotten old, have had kids, and then realize, oh
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, now I can enjoy the show with
<v Speaker 2>my kids, enjoy the show again.
<v Speaker 4>And I think that a Simpson, a seeking Simpsons movie
<v Speaker 4>is big enough that they're going to really really try
<v Speaker 4>and make it good, and it seems that there's a
<v Speaker 4>chance that it could be the show's swan song, so
<v Speaker 4>they'll really try, you know, go out on a high.
<v Speaker 4>That's I'm feeling optimistic. I don't know about you, guys,
<v Speaker 4>I'm seeing some skepticism.
<v Speaker 2>Or personally, I feelt the Simpsons will never stop. It'll
<v Speaker 2>still exist in some way. They're already starting to implement
<v Speaker 2>Disney Plus specials, so Disney Plus exclusive episodes, so now
<v Speaker 2>the seasons are actually shorter. I think this season's only
<v Speaker 2>going to be seventeen episodes on TV, but there's like
<v Speaker 2>two or three that are going to be excluici for
<v Speaker 2>Disney Plus. So I think they're just testing the waters here,
<v Speaker 2>and I think eventually it'll just be a Disney Plus
<v Speaker 2>show because it's sill one of the most watch shows
<v Speaker 2>on Disney Plus, and obviously that streaming service has been
<v Speaker 2>Disney Plus making the show far more accessible has also
<v Speaker 2>played a big role in helping the show find a
<v Speaker 2>new audience as well.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I also think there's something so funny in the
<v Speaker 4>fact that The Simpsons keeps skitting renewed long beyond the
<v Speaker 4>time that anyone thought it was good. Like that that's
<v Speaker 4>inherently a very funny thing that keeps happening. Like every
<v Speaker 4>year I see this news that the show's been renewed,
<v Speaker 4>and that I find hilarious, and there's like a cosmic
<v Speaker 4>there's like it's, you know, not a joke necessarily by
<v Speaker 4>the Simpsons, but there's some sort of cosmic joke about
<v Speaker 4>the Simpsons. And so I enjoy that it keeps skintting renewed,
<v Speaker 4>and I hope that it never ends.
<v Speaker 2>That's why I think it's like season thirteen or season fourteen.
<v Speaker 2>They had to have no fear. We've got stories for
<v Speaker 2>years clip shows like that. That was like twenty years ago.
<v Speaker 2>That episode, right.
<v Speaker 4>God, I don't know if it's the same one, but
<v Speaker 4>where Troy McClure comes out and says, you know, and
<v Speaker 4>Mary Williams after Williams after Williams, and let's selma marry
<v Speaker 4>in itchy and.
<v Speaker 7>HM, whoa careful there, any Oakley?
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to be careful. I got a gun.
<v Speaker 7>Well you probably want the accessory, kid Holster. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 7>BENDOLIU babe silent soup louder Now speed Cocker would like
<v Speaker 7>to sound to that. And this is for shooting down
<v Speaker 7>police helicopters.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't need anything like that. Ye, just give
<v Speaker 1>me my gun.
<v Speaker 7>Sorry, the law requires a five day waiting period. We've
<v Speaker 7>got to run a background check five days.
<v Speaker 1>But I'm mad, now kill you if I had my gun.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well you don't.
<v Speaker 3>Whyse guys always got to come back, ye ladies.
<v Speaker 2>Mumbling to himself, he's just he's angry at life right now.
<v Speaker 2>It's just cracky. He's down the hallway, three am, Lisa
<v Speaker 2>is I can be quiet, mud, kick me out, push
<v Speaker 2>the kids and they can tell her to do in
<v Speaker 2>my own house. Then Homer's about waiting at the front.
<v Speaker 2>And this is a really memorable time, like everyone remembers
<v Speaker 2>this one. So he's sitting at the front with his
<v Speaker 2>ammo over in his belt, waiting for the chance to
<v Speaker 2>have his gun, and all these things go past it.
<v Speaker 2>He would love to shoot. So it starts off with
<v Speaker 2>the target departments, the target truck. We've got a family
<v Speaker 2>of ducks, some rabbits, Patty and Salm would go pass
<v Speaker 2>on the bike, and then Flanders goes past on his
<v Speaker 2>right arm mow.
<v Speaker 3>But it's now time, by the way, all to the
<v Speaker 3>tune of Tom Pitty and the Heartbreakers, the Waiting my
<v Speaker 3>favorite TP and the Heartbreaking song.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I just love it when the song is well,
<v Speaker 3>when a song I like is deployed, when it's deployed
<v Speaker 3>perfectly like this, like it is here thematically, and yeah,
<v Speaker 3>love it, love it.
<v Speaker 4>I looked it up online and I saw that he
<v Speaker 4>Tom Pitty very rarely grants the use of his music,
<v Speaker 4>but he's a fan of the Simpsons.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he was on the Simpsons.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Oh, really fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>Have you not seen the rock Camp episode with Mick
<v Speaker 2>Jagger and Tom Petty and whatnot as it later on
<v Speaker 2>maybe season fifteen, it's where it's a really good episode,
<v Speaker 2>so Lenny Kravitz Homi goes to Rocks rock Camp and
<v Speaker 2>it's got Lenny Kravitz, Jagger and Keith Keith's It's really good.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's fantastic. I always remember that Bob Dylan. Bob
<v Speaker 4>Dylan turned down playing the Coyote and Homer's and then
<v Speaker 4>and because he, I don't know, doesn't want to do
<v Speaker 4>some TV show whatever, and then he agreed to appear
<v Speaker 4>and I was it some sort of Coca collar ad
<v Speaker 4>in the Super Bowl where he sort of praised Amera
<v Speaker 4>Karna and talked about how great a miracle was, and
<v Speaker 4>I remember being so mad and that he'd appear in
<v Speaker 4>this random, awful coke ad but turned down. One of
<v Speaker 4>the great episodes of The Simpsons anyway.
<v Speaker 2>That we got Johnny Cash instead.
<v Speaker 4>Johnny Cash was great.
<v Speaker 2>You know why that was the case?
<v Speaker 4>Ray?
<v Speaker 3>What's that big fat bag with the dolls?
<v Speaker 2>Works every time? It's like, you haven't a bag. I
<v Speaker 2>don't want to draw a dollar symbol on it.
<v Speaker 4>You don't say it moved me to a house?
<v Speaker 2>So good? But yeah, So he arrives as soon as
<v Speaker 2>they open. He looks all excited to get into the store,
<v Speaker 2>but it's actually because he wants to use the toilet.
<v Speaker 2>And then they say he's got a background check. You've
<v Speaker 2>been to a mental institution, frequent problems with alcohol, You
<v Speaker 2>beat a former president, former President Bush, and he stamped
<v Speaker 2>as potentially dangerous. Now I don't worry, which means you're
<v Speaker 2>limited to three handguns? Still fine, yes, three hand guns
<v Speaker 2>or less. So then he walks inside. He says, Marjor,
<v Speaker 2>you're surprised for you close your eyes. She opens up
<v Speaker 2>and she has a gun pointed in her face. This
<v Speaker 2>is the trigger and this is the thing you point out,
<v Speaker 2>whatever you wanted to tail. I'm glad that mar she's
<v Speaker 2>stuck very true to her character. And at the end
<v Speaker 2>of the nice little rud Pool where she actually likes
<v Speaker 2>the gun, but it's just it's very much from the
<v Speaker 2>go to watch she's like, I don't want guns in
<v Speaker 2>my house, and you think Homer comes across poorly like
<v Speaker 2>a bad husband. Even at the end here at Tech
<v Speaker 2>the gun away. I won't be able to. But it's
<v Speaker 2>almost like an added isn't it an addict acknowledging I
<v Speaker 2>don't I'm not strong enough help me.
<v Speaker 3>I think that's what the episode does really well, is
<v Speaker 3>it recognizes the allure. Yeah, I mean, and look, America
<v Speaker 3>is complicit in this in a lot of ways because
<v Speaker 3>you know, so much of its entertainment is based around,
<v Speaker 3>you know what, what's the only thing to stop a
<v Speaker 3>bad man with a gun? Good man with a gun.
<v Speaker 3>It's been sort of a drilled in from the from
<v Speaker 3>the get go.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, I feel like Homer is the confision there
<v Speaker 4>and sort of like, yeah, him and that in his weakness,
<v Speaker 4>So that feels there, feels okay, that part where it's
<v Speaker 4>like take this away, you know, like he is still
<v Speaker 4>saying I want to do right by you, but he
<v Speaker 4>just knows he can't. But up until that point, he
<v Speaker 4>has been a very bad Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I mean you think he sort of redeems himself with
<v Speaker 3>a line near the end where you know, it's very
<v Speaker 3>much the thesis line of the episode. So you know,
<v Speaker 3>what's the point of having a gun for protection if
<v Speaker 3>you've got no one to protect?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, even after that, he's still yeah, still a gun.
<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your thoughts on when they break the
<v Speaker 2>fourth wall? So they acknowledge here that because she brings
<v Speaker 2>up how Maggie one shot mister, and someone's like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>well Smithers did it? Now that would have made more sense.
<v Speaker 2>Are you a fan of these ones where acknowledging something
<v Speaker 2>from within the show, within their own universe?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think so. I don't. I don't mind it.
<v Speaker 4>It didn't seem bizarre to me that when I was watching,
<v Speaker 4>I think, and I don't mind a show doing that.
<v Speaker 4>Like there are some well, I think so, I've watched
<v Speaker 4>the television show at Glee, for example, and the writing
<v Speaker 4>and Glee, especially towards the end, gets very sloppy. And
<v Speaker 4>then what they will do is they'll kind of like
<v Speaker 4>do a cheeky reference to be like, oh, I don't
<v Speaker 4>I can't remember if I was doing this or that,
<v Speaker 4>or you know, they they're sort of acknowledging the bad writing.
<v Speaker 4>But it's like, no, the writing was just always like
<v Speaker 4>it's not funny to be like haha. I think there
<v Speaker 4>was an inconsistency here. It's like, no, that you guys
<v Speaker 4>just shouldn't have written it bad in the first place,
<v Speaker 4>whereas I feel like The Simpsons is different. I feel
<v Speaker 4>like the Simpsons kind of earns like I think they
<v Speaker 4>earn being a bit cheeky about their writing about being like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>we didn't do the obvious thing or whatever, like because
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't. I don't. I don't think it was bad
<v Speaker 4>writing at the time.
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember the Who Shot Mister Burns when it
<v Speaker 2>first aired? Was it a big deal in New Zealand?
<v Speaker 2>As a kid, h I may.
<v Speaker 4>Have been too young to appreciate it, but I do
<v Speaker 4>think I do recall there being ads about it, Like
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I can remember being in my grandparents'
<v Speaker 4>house and seeing ads about who shot Mister Boons and
<v Speaker 4>stuff on TV.
<v Speaker 2>I remember my dad had a bet my sister and
<v Speaker 2>I we had a little notepad. We've watched part one.
<v Speaker 2>We're going to work out who did it right. I
<v Speaker 2>thought it smid that she thought it was somebody else.
<v Speaker 2>Can I quite remember? And my dad just goes, I reckon,
<v Speaker 2>Maggie did it. And we're like, Daddy, as if, Maggie,
<v Speaker 2>what are you doing? And it turns out I didn't
<v Speaker 2>realize the later on we thought he was a genius
<v Speaker 2>when he was actually right. I'm like, how do you
<v Speaker 2>know any For years and years he was just like, well,
<v Speaker 2>you know. I decided I had a good guess. I
<v Speaker 2>thought the clues are all there, and I was like, wow.
<v Speaker 2>It turns out in Australia on one of the Triple
<v Speaker 2>AM or Fox if IM or whatever, the guy in
<v Speaker 2>the radio leaked it because we were like six months
<v Speaker 2>behind in the show. So he has a joke goes, oh,
<v Speaker 2>yeah it was the baby as a joke, got fired
<v Speaker 2>from his job for doing it because it was such
<v Speaker 2>a big deal. But my dad was listening to the radio,
<v Speaker 2>got cheer gold and then and then that's what happens.
<v Speaker 2>That's how my dad knew. But for years my dad
<v Speaker 2>put up this made it, made himself like a god.
<v Speaker 2>We thought he was a genius because he knew Maggie
<v Speaker 2>did it.
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, yeah, I mean I've read about how they
<v Speaker 4>put in clues and stuff in the episodes, like all
<v Speaker 4>the clocks are pointing one way and YadA YadA, But yeah,
<v Speaker 4>that's not I don't think it's obvious at all. But
<v Speaker 4>but I did like that they kind of carried it on.
<v Speaker 4>Like there's an episode later on in the not so
<v Speaker 4>Golden Era where Maggie shoots at a bunch of mafioso
<v Speaker 4>from her crib and then puts the gun under her pillow,
<v Speaker 4>Like I like, I like that that she's her character
<v Speaker 4>is now like a gun toting maniac.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the asked to borrow the gun to scared security
<v Speaker 2>at the bank. This is only if you clean your room, Marches.
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking this away because fifty you're fifty epercent more
<v Speaker 2>likely to shoot your family member than true. That's what
<v Speaker 2>TV said. TV said that. I love that Marge is
<v Speaker 2>now smart enough to know she has to say TV
<v Speaker 2>said it, that's how you get through to this person,
<v Speaker 2>to her husband, and he says, I have to have
<v Speaker 2>one says so in the Constitution, and this is the
<v Speaker 2>fallback that we always have here who lives outside the States.
<v Speaker 2>The Constitution is so outdated now, like it doesn't make
<v Speaker 2>sense when they wrote that these guns, like you didn't
<v Speaker 2>have some of the automatics and whatnot.
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny that they keep mentioning the King of
<v Speaker 3>England because may I think that's essentially what the Second
<v Speaker 3>Amendment was about, Like the Brits could come back anytime, reclaimed. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>this country that was quote unquite originally theirs.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, you're.
<v Speaker 3>Probably justified in having your musket under you know, the
<v Speaker 3>red coats, gum pushing when you come out and pushing
<v Speaker 3>you around. Do you do you?
<v Speaker 4>I love Lisa's such a good daughter that she takes
<v Speaker 4>the rhetorical questure from Homer in genuine fashion and no
<v Speaker 4>of England.
<v Speaker 2>But this guy obviously worked better than ninety seven because
<v Speaker 2>at that time it was the queen. But now obvious
<v Speaker 2>we've got a king again. But like in ninety seven,
<v Speaker 2>it's like, not only is it an outdated thing to
<v Speaker 2>have a gun, but it's outdated the fact that it's
<v Speaker 2>saying the King of England. It wasn't even the king anymore,
<v Speaker 2>you know, But now we're going to King again, but
<v Speaker 2>Marshall says, no more weapons in his house. A number
<v Speaker 2>points out it's not a weapon, it's a tool like
<v Speaker 2>a butcher's knife or a harpoon or an alligator. It
<v Speaker 2>just more education on the subject. So he invites her
<v Speaker 2>to the NRA meeting and if she still doesn't like guns,
<v Speaker 2>then we'll argue some more. They arrive at the meeting
<v Speaker 2>and it says on the sign, come in and shoot
<v Speaker 2>your mouth off. And they're going through this gag here,
<v Speaker 2>going through the security, so it's beeping, beeping. Beeping doesn't
<v Speaker 2>beat for Kenney, so Lou the police officer, hands him
<v Speaker 2>a gun, so that does beep. Then Lenny is chatting here,
<v Speaker 2>Lenny very pro guns, chatting about automatic rifles, and they've
<v Speaker 2>been getting a lot of bad press lately. The matter factured,
<v Speaker 2>but then manufacturer take it. Today's modern super animals like
<v Speaker 2>flying squirrels or I'll let your geels And it's almost
<v Speaker 2>like an AA meeting. So Moe introduced himself as Mo
<v Speaker 2>s Imo tells his story about how this young punk
<v Speaker 2>tried to rob him as he was closing up the thing.
<v Speaker 2>What'd you do? No smell? Whatever did you do?
<v Speaker 4>Mo?
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it could have got ugly, but I shut him
<v Speaker 2>in the spine. They all applaud next place, next place,
<v Speaker 2>you got a rob. But I have a reverence the
<v Speaker 2>applause in the spine.
<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Homer rat.
<v Speaker 4>Hi.
<v Speaker 1>It seems to me if a gun can protect something
<v Speaker 1>as important as a bar, it's good enough to protect
<v Speaker 1>my family. So if you'll have me, I would like
<v Speaker 1>to become a lifetime member of your wonderful organization.
<v Speaker 5>You can't join up with these gun nuts.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on, be fair, March, what in your life
<v Speaker 1>be fair?
<v Speaker 2>Then at the shooting range, Agnes is throwing a grenade.
<v Speaker 2>Shoot the cans. It turns out to be the candy
<v Speaker 2>ba It also.
<v Speaker 3>Turns out to be thinking, oh is this one of
<v Speaker 3>those things her home? Is actually going to be really
<v Speaker 3>good at stuff? Because like he's really nailing those cares.
<v Speaker 2>Oh of course he's back. Yeah, and we get a
<v Speaker 2>great moment. So he enters the quickie mart spinning his
<v Speaker 2>gun around, just being reckless with it. Who thinks he's
<v Speaker 2>about to be rob? Take whatever you want? And then
<v Speaker 2>we get home. It is like like I rob the
<v Speaker 2>quiet discussing so stupid but also just so funny. He
<v Speaker 2>got the monocle in the monicle signify is just rich
<v Speaker 2>sash that says.
<v Speaker 3>Senators like, I'm pretty sure any senator has never worn
<v Speaker 3>a sash, that.
<v Speaker 2>Every rich president of the Simpsons has to have a monicle.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but one of your favorite characters that my
<v Speaker 2>word late.
<v Speaker 3>Anytime someone can scandalize a monocle, falls out and drink
<v Speaker 3>the drink, but decides he's going to rob the quickie mart.
<v Speaker 2>It turns out he's just been daydreaming this whole time
<v Speaker 2>and he's down in the car. Well, I just rob
<v Speaker 2>it next time. Then he helps he gets home, helps
<v Speaker 2>Lisa get her ball down by shooting it. Want me
<v Speaker 2>to get the cat down? No thanks. Then he's shooting
<v Speaker 2>plates like the but the clay pigeons. Yeah, like o pigeons.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah with bart missus one see you and how dinner plate?
<v Speaker 2>Then the family now or eating their spaghetti added glasses
<v Speaker 2>and as you were saying, he followed saucepans and whatnot,
<v Speaker 2>And Homer says, you bold March, you probably left your
<v Speaker 2>dinner plates at work. Then Homer says that he's peaked
<v Speaker 2>to be the host of the next NRA get together.
<v Speaker 2>I love that they call it get together as well. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>just makes us seem more family friendly. It's get together,
<v Speaker 2>It's fine, never worry about it. And Marsh has no
<v Speaker 2>guns at the dinner table, Homer, you know, the breakfast table,
<v Speaker 2>at the same table. And he puts the safety on,
<v Speaker 2>and this is great. This is actually a horrific moment.
<v Speaker 2>But it's actually a genius that I would make comedy
<v Speaker 2>out of it. So thinks he got the safety on.
<v Speaker 2>Boom shoots the photo of March must have been on.
<v Speaker 2>Puts shoot the photo of March again.
<v Speaker 4>Oh.
<v Speaker 2>Even He's like, ship, I'm just gonna put this down.
<v Speaker 2>Puts it down, waits, It's like two seconds of nothing,
<v Speaker 2>and then boom goes up again, hits up, ricochets or
<v Speaker 2>something gets the knife stabs in the head. And even
<v Speaker 2>Lisa boys that you gotta me. That's pretty cool, Homer.
<v Speaker 5>I think you would agree that I've put up with
<v Speaker 5>a lot in this marriage. But this is the first
<v Speaker 5>time since we've been married that I've actually feared for
<v Speaker 5>our lives. So I'm asking you, if you really care
<v Speaker 5>about me and the children, please please get rid of
<v Speaker 5>the gun.
<v Speaker 1>All right, marriage, I'll do it for you.
<v Speaker 4>I'm a lucky woman.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm a wonderful man.
<v Speaker 2>Then bought millhouse and now going through the fridge, you're
<v Speaker 2>looking for the fudge seaguless, which is the fudgs of
<v Speaker 2>fudge seagules. That's a fudge sickle. I say fudgy. Do
<v Speaker 2>you say fudge stackle? I did? I say fudgl I'll
<v Speaker 2>just say ice cream. Have you ever said that word
<v Speaker 2>at Lanta?
<v Speaker 4>No, it's not a New Zealand. Do you guys have
<v Speaker 4>them in Australia? It's not a New.
<v Speaker 3>Zealand are uniquely American.
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what they call them in England? Iced lollies?
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Yeah, horrific? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Like, what are we doing here? I always tell the
<v Speaker 2>story how my wife's from England, so I went to
<v Speaker 2>meet her family. We first thy over there. My wife
<v Speaker 2>didn't know. It's a surprise, and my wife's mom picked
<v Speaker 2>me up from the airport. Were driving home. She goes, oh,
<v Speaker 2>do you want anything from the supermarket whilst I'm in here?
<v Speaker 2>I said our bag of lollies would be good, and
<v Speaker 2>she looked at me funny, was okay?
<v Speaker 4>Sure?
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, just just any lollies. I don't care,
<v Speaker 2>Just a bag of lollies and she comes out with
<v Speaker 2>a bag of lollipops and I was like, oh no,
<v Speaker 2>I said lolly, she goes oh sweets. It's like I'm
<v Speaker 2>wondering why this twenty year old man was asking for
<v Speaker 2>a bag of lollipops. By the way, do you have
<v Speaker 2>an unmarked VAINI? Yeah, but I just remember remember the
<v Speaker 2>look on her face when I asked for a bag
<v Speaker 2>of lollies. It was just like confusion, just like do
<v Speaker 2>I want to actually bring this man to my house
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<v Speaker 2>slash four figure discout. So yeah, I slowly is in
<v Speaker 2>the UK. They partly It's very bizarre, like do you
<v Speaker 2>have any issues like that when you go to the UK?
<v Speaker 2>Because they call capsic and pepper obviously and things like that.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, lots of little things. It's really annoying because like, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I wrote a joke about mattress protectors and and so.
<v Speaker 2>Here's a very good gag by the way, oh.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you very kind. But here in Australia they're called douners.
<v Speaker 4>Overseas it's called doves.
<v Speaker 2>Is this do?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a lot of little things that I feel
<v Speaker 4>I can influence the cadence of a joke, and like
<v Speaker 4>how many syllables you have and things like that. I
<v Speaker 4>think if poss machine is not is not a term
<v Speaker 4>in the UK after they use card reader, And it's
<v Speaker 4>just again I always purposely try right, you know, jokes
<v Speaker 4>that in theory all the universal, but it just always
<v Speaker 4>irritates me that there are just little language things that
<v Speaker 4>I could never ever possibly account for. And like today
<v Speaker 4>I wrote it, or this recently I wrote a joke
<v Speaker 4>involving putting hard rubbish into a cremation or something. But
<v Speaker 4>and then I realized hard rubbish is only a term
<v Speaker 4>in Australia, so I've had to.
<v Speaker 3>This is one that I bring up a lot. And
<v Speaker 3>there's a New Zealander you may appreciate this, you'd better
<v Speaker 3>appreciate it. On Flight of the Concord, I think one
<v Speaker 3>of the first episodes one of the because I fashioned
<v Speaker 3>a lot of episodes around their existing songs, but lineing
<v Speaker 3>one of those songs, ist going on a date and said,
<v Speaker 3>I'll take.
<v Speaker 2>You for a kebab.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, but it's set in America, and I mean, you know,
<v Speaker 3>we think of a kebab as basically like a sil
<v Speaker 3>something like that. Yeah, and they go to the States.
<v Speaker 3>Is like, what, so he's taking around for a shob
<v Speaker 3>and then you see actually like a shish kabob on
<v Speaker 3>the on the screen when they've gone out.
<v Speaker 2>It's like.
<v Speaker 4>Not quite the same thing.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yeah, it's like those Americans have got a
<v Speaker 3>different word for.
<v Speaker 2>I remember when I ordered subway in London once and
<v Speaker 2>there was like a fifteen year old girl behind the
<v Speaker 2>canna sang sandwich artist and I asked for some capsicum,
<v Speaker 2>and like her mind exploded. She was like, I have
<v Speaker 2>no have any I was like, okay, you do, it's
<v Speaker 2>right there. She's like, no, that's pepper and I was
<v Speaker 2>like no, no, no, no, I want capsicum. She's like, that's
<v Speaker 2>called pepper. I'm like I call it capsicum. She's like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're saying.
<v Speaker 3>And then you said, can I interested in one of
<v Speaker 3>these lullies?
<v Speaker 2>Get out of my shop, but saying fudgicles? So bart
<v Speaker 2>Mill has looking for the fudgicles. They find the gun though,
<v Speaker 2>in the veggie draw and he's about to shoot the
<v Speaker 2>apple not oudam not off of his head, adams his mouth.
<v Speaker 2>Marge catches them, Well, Bud can have a gun. That's home.
<v Speaker 2>I walks in, and Marge can't believe that you would lie.
<v Speaker 2>This is the most despicable all the things you've done
<v Speaker 2>is the most despicable thing of all. Look much, I
<v Speaker 2>swear I never thought you'd find out. It's such a
<v Speaker 2>great line. And the delivery from Dan Caslenad is just
<v Speaker 2>just as good. And she takes the kids and and
<v Speaker 2>then he gets a little gets all out red. Well,
<v Speaker 2>this is the thanks I get for protecting my family.
<v Speaker 2>Then go, I'll be fine, turns to Millhouse. Yeah, to
<v Speaker 2>cook dinner.
<v Speaker 3>Hitsley Cupboard gets getting all the ing, all the accessories there.
<v Speaker 4>Good on him.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like Millhouse and Hope probably had a good night,
<v Speaker 2>Like Millhouse probably is a good cook.
<v Speaker 3>The Mill has prepared his own dinner more than once.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, said to cook for his dad for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. Then at Spinster City apartments, they're going to
<v Speaker 2>see Patty and Sol and March. She's the place to stay,
<v Speaker 2>but she can't stay because they've got a gentleman caller
<v Speaker 2>who's there to fix the TV. But it's just not
<v Speaker 2>plumed in.
<v Speaker 3>Poor guy.
<v Speaker 2>But she suggested matches a match bookshere of the sleeves,
<v Speaker 2>slip Hotael, she'll wake up there once. Seem nice. Then
<v Speaker 2>we have the gun warming at the Simpsons house out
<v Speaker 2>then the signs out the front Nacho's rifles and alcohol,
<v Speaker 2>and Moe is arriving with he ribes first with a
<v Speaker 2>bag of irregular oreos. Yeah, and he was wrong with
<v Speaker 2>this one, bites it. Oh that's what's wrong. Yes, we
<v Speaker 2>don't really get a regular and things like that. We
<v Speaker 2>get a regular carrot Yeah yeah, all those carts. But
<v Speaker 2>what would be wrong with a regular aureo? Do you
<v Speaker 2>think just like crumped up the size of it?
<v Speaker 3>Maybe stale?
<v Speaker 2>Stale? Yeah, truly a few a few weeks past its
<v Speaker 2>best by quite right? Special? Yeah, you have like an
<v Speaker 2>q Do you have NQR in New Zealand as well,
<v Speaker 2>was that an Australian thing that you discos.
<v Speaker 4>No, in so in QR sense for not quite right.
<v Speaker 4>I'm justing, yeah, they would do a thing where you
<v Speaker 4>could get free airples and st No. Yeah, no, we
<v Speaker 4>never really had in QR. No, no, no, I was going
<v Speaker 4>to say we had like free apples and stuff for kids,
<v Speaker 4>but that wasn't I don't think those were the missed
<v Speaker 4>up apples and stuff.
<v Speaker 3>The big the big chains do that. They'll have to
<v Speaker 3>have a banana and apple for the kids, exactly.
<v Speaker 2>Ipen here, so put that down. That's for children. No,
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to lolly. It's for my inner and nourishing.
<v Speaker 4>I don't need to go shopping any more on full Actually.
<v Speaker 3>No, but you know, yeah, we got the NQR stores,
<v Speaker 3>which are basically sort of like discontinued brands or close
<v Speaker 3>to the close to the US by day, so you know,
<v Speaker 3>if you live on the.
<v Speaker 2>Just passed the best before, which is still okay to eat,
<v Speaker 2>it's not used buying best before, big difference. But the
<v Speaker 2>family they arrive at the Sleep Easy motel, the hookers there,
<v Speaker 2>they asked by if you once a good time as
<v Speaker 2>you're saying earlier, much like, he's not. He's really not.
<v Speaker 2>Then most shows have With a few minor adjustments, you
<v Speaker 2>can turn a regular gun into five guns setting ovation.
<v Speaker 2>Homan then says, who wants a beer? Opens it up
<v Speaker 2>with his gun, And this is where it kicks off,
<v Speaker 2>where you're just like, oh, wait a minute, these guys
<v Speaker 2>aren't gun crazy mainix because they pick characters too, like
<v Speaker 2>you know, Mo and things like and Kleatus, And you
<v Speaker 2>think all these guys are clearly going to be idiots,
<v Speaker 2>but no, they're not at all.
<v Speaker 1>Anyone else want a beer?
<v Speaker 2>You use your gun as a can opener.
<v Speaker 1>I use it for everything. Watch me turn on the TV.
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen such recklessness.
<v Speaker 1>You might have heard someone.
<v Speaker 4>Are you so kind of moron? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>But hey yeah, guns aren't toys.
<v Speaker 5>They're a family protection, hunting gen d delicious animals, and
<v Speaker 5>keeping the King of Angling out of your face.
<v Speaker 7>Your membership card please, holmer. I'll also need to remove
<v Speaker 7>your tattoo.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't good one yet.
<v Speaker 3>Rat By the way, quick, quick little shout out to
<v Speaker 3>Homer turning the TV on with his gun. He turns
<v Speaker 3>on the TV, someone gets shot in the western falls off. Yes,
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty neat, is.
<v Speaker 4>Chief Wigan in the n r A because I'm pretty
<v Speaker 4>sure isn't there a scene it's in there? Yeah, well
<v Speaker 4>where Wigham shoot, doesn't Wigham shoot his TV to turn
<v Speaker 4>it off at one point?
<v Speaker 2>That's when that's when here's a remote that's the Homer's
<v Speaker 2>barbershop quartet, the Beatles one when he gets kicked out
<v Speaker 2>of the group and he's angry in bed and there's
<v Speaker 2>a Johnny Carson saying things that are irrelevant and it's
<v Speaker 2>like Chief Wi.
<v Speaker 4>He shoots.
<v Speaker 2>He shoots the TV and then his wife's like, here's
<v Speaker 2>the remote, but they take his membership away and Ma
<v Speaker 2>wants to remove the tattoo, but he hasn't got the
<v Speaker 2>tattoo yet. Yes, and they send him outside so that
<v Speaker 2>they can party. And then meanwhile at the motel, the
<v Speaker 2>kids asking they can swim in the pool, but not
<v Speaker 2>just yet because there's still get the body out of it.
<v Speaker 4>Such a grim again, another thing you can do in
<v Speaker 4>a car soroo and then you can't do it a
<v Speaker 4>live act.
<v Speaker 2>Exactly right. Yeah, I love that the TV and the
<v Speaker 2>Bible were coin operated. Home. Then Bart then does the
<v Speaker 2>the new prank call where he asked for three AM
<v Speaker 2>week up calls for every room but his own, every
<v Speaker 2>room but this, Yes, and of course that would work
<v Speaker 2>in the Simpsons universe. And then they're racing the beds,
<v Speaker 2>spotty and smelly in March. You just look at the window.
<v Speaker 2>She's just sad. She's like, why is my husband put
<v Speaker 2>me in this situation. Homer is then shooting all the
<v Speaker 2>lights in the house. You know this is gonna cost
<v Speaker 2>me everything except my precious gun. And then he says
<v Speaker 2>he wants his family back because he's just obviously lonely
<v Speaker 2>and board at home. No lights are working. Then Bart
<v Speaker 2>notices the camera up and the ceiling No, no camera,
<v Speaker 2>go back to sleep, and then Lisa is better as
<v Speaker 2>making a nauseous because it won't turn off and Marshes
<v Speaker 2>will be morning, so just try and get some sleep.
<v Speaker 2>And this is where we get the first Quimby moment.
<v Speaker 2>He walks in with his mistress. I guess you could
<v Speaker 2>call her? Are you panion? Are you planning to say
<v Speaker 2>the whole night? Yes? All right, Quimby. And then Homer
<v Speaker 2>arrives looking in each room over the door Quimby, and
<v Speaker 2>then Marge comes out. He says, there's so many things
<v Speaker 2>I want to yell to you. It's come down here,
<v Speaker 2>tell me. Okay. So he comes down and he says,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I love my gun, but it's lonely being
<v Speaker 2>at home by myself and there's no one around him.
<v Speaker 2>I witty remarks, and he says, I promise the gun
<v Speaker 2>is gone for good this time. And he's the line
<v Speaker 2>you were mentioning earlier. Finally realized what's the point nevering
<v Speaker 2>the gun for protection if you've got no one left
<v Speaker 2>to protect? And about to check out, Quimby is getting
<v Speaker 2>some ice out of the ice machine in his robe.
<v Speaker 2>He gives him the Continental Breakfast. Then Snake bursts in
<v Speaker 2>to rob the joint and he grabs Quimby. I'm too
<v Speaker 2>ridge to die, and but then just love the envelope
<v Speaker 2>closes it. Yes, yeah, it's horrible, horrific, just drippling at
<v Speaker 2>the sides. So Snake walks in and yes, so he
<v Speaker 2>grabs Quimby, and Quimi doesn't want to die, obviously, But
<v Speaker 2>Homer pulls out the gun here and you're like, oh shit,
<v Speaker 2>you've led again to march and Marge is furious.
<v Speaker 4>Marge decides to tell him off mid robbery.
<v Speaker 2>Mid robbery. Yes, yes, but then he says what a
<v Speaker 2>secretly meant was he's too distracted talking to Marge, trying
<v Speaker 2>to justify why he still haze the gun. As Snake
<v Speaker 2>takes the gun from him, it's like stupid, you know,
<v Speaker 2>stupid idiot, I've got them, still give me them. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>don't shoot class. That's that is classic.
<v Speaker 4>That's good.
<v Speaker 2>Then the NRA crew arrive because they heard the song
<v Speaker 2>of alarm that the the clerk pushed because they have
<v Speaker 2>one of those scanners. My dad used to have one
<v Speaker 2>of those scanners when I was a kid and sitting
<v Speaker 2>there and you can hear like the police and what's
<v Speaker 2>going on. It's like it felt like you're breaking the law.
<v Speaker 2>He probably were sure it's not legal. But my dad
<v Speaker 2>scanner is like listening's like, oh yeah, there's yeah, this
<v Speaker 2>is going down. The cops are going down this road
<v Speaker 2>and he's want to go look, and was like the
<v Speaker 2>house burning a couple of streets and we're going to look,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, how do you know the hurt on
<v Speaker 2>the scanner and I'm like, this doesn't seem legit. But
<v Speaker 2>they heard it on their scanner as well. They heard
<v Speaker 2>the song, so they've saved the day. Essentially, so the
<v Speaker 2>NRA crew save the day. But did they say the
<v Speaker 2>day because there's loads of points out, did anyone's actually
<v Speaker 2>stop the robber? Yeah, no, no, we're we're scaring them away.
<v Speaker 3>And it's interesting that there's sort of a correlation between
<v Speaker 3>these guys who are very big in the guns who
<v Speaker 3>also have police scammers as well. I'm not saying anything
<v Speaker 3>about your dandy by the way down, but I am
<v Speaker 3>I'm employing it. I don't know the fact that they
<v Speaker 3>kind of want to be law enforces or being seen
<v Speaker 3>on land. Yeah, on the right side of you know,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know much to say beyond that because I'm
<v Speaker 3>not a philosophy mate to like like like he'd had
<v Speaker 3>more to say about it.
<v Speaker 4>But can't be lying if I said my men weren't
<v Speaker 4>committing crimes.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I lay to you, merch, but this gun
<v Speaker 1>had a hold on me. I felt this incredible surge
<v Speaker 1>of power, like God must feel when he's holding a gun.
<v Speaker 1>So please get rid of it, because I know I'll
<v Speaker 1>just lie to you again and again.
<v Speaker 2>He leaves with the kids. Marge goes to put it
<v Speaker 2>in the bin and in the normal version of the
<v Speaker 2>UK version, the normal version, she goes to put it
<v Speaker 2>in the bin, sees herself in the reflection. I think
<v Speaker 2>she looks kind of cool, and she walks out to
<v Speaker 2>the Avengers thing, which was not the Avengers we know now.
<v Speaker 2>The Avengers was a TV show in the UK, I.
<v Speaker 3>Believe, not the end Game Avengers. We're talking about John
<v Speaker 3>Steed and Mpel, the dude in the bowler hat and
<v Speaker 3>the woman in the type black cat suit hot stuff
<v Speaker 3>in the late sixties, and I have read that they
<v Speaker 3>didn't like the music anything that suited the moment at
<v Speaker 3>the end.
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to change it, but it was too late.
<v Speaker 2>And I've read they wanted to change it to Happiness
<v Speaker 2>is a Warm Gun by the beach, but they couldn't
<v Speaker 2>get it all to work in time. It was just
<v Speaker 2>it was too late. Notice, but there's a video on
<v Speaker 2>YouTube where someone's put Happiness is a Warm Gun in
<v Speaker 2>its place and it actually works perfect. It would have
<v Speaker 2>been like it would have been spot on. It's just
<v Speaker 2>a shame that didn't happen. But yet Happiness is a
<v Speaker 2>Warm Gun would have been a brilliant ending to that moment.
<v Speaker 2>And also I feel like because a lot of people
<v Speaker 2>who didn't like this episode thought it made guns look positive, right,
<v Speaker 2>put them in a more positive like the negative. I
<v Speaker 2>think that music at the end makes her come across
<v Speaker 2>cooler where when you watch the watch that same ending
<v Speaker 2>with happiness as a warm gun, it's more of a
<v Speaker 2>bittersweet ending where it's like, you know, it's not oh
<v Speaker 2>how cool is she?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but having the Avengers music, and I mean, the
<v Speaker 3>main female character on that TV series was regarded as
<v Speaker 3>kind of a feminist icon, a very much kind of
<v Speaker 3>a prototype girl hero. I don't know, not to be well,
<v Speaker 3>you don't quite get it if you know, but she's Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>she's been sucked into the as I said before, the
<v Speaker 3>allure of it as well. It's like no one's safe
<v Speaker 3>from thinking, damn I look cool holding this, or or
<v Speaker 3>I feel very powerful with this.
<v Speaker 2>Oh well that is the end of the cart chain.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for picking this one, recause it's
<v Speaker 2>not when I go back and reviees it all that often.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad I did now.
<v Speaker 4>Yes. No, I don't know why. I just watched it
<v Speaker 4>many years ago, maybe when I was going through the Simpsons.
<v Speaker 4>I just remember it really standing out to me of
<v Speaker 4>how funny it was, how many jokes are packed into
<v Speaker 4>it is just I think also, you know politics aside.
<v Speaker 4>I think a gun is an extreme item. I guess
<v Speaker 4>you know guns. You know, if you shoot a gun
<v Speaker 4>at someone, you kill them. So I think there's a
<v Speaker 4>lot of opportunity for comedy there because you're in such
<v Speaker 4>a heightened extreme place. And yeah, the Simpson's milks it
<v Speaker 4>for all it's worths.
<v Speaker 2>It's so good you're going to treat it carefully as well. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>that's what's what I did. A great job.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Before we let you go, though, Ray, something we
<v Speaker 2>always ask our guests. You're already well aware of it.
<v Speaker 2>We've let you know, given me the heads up. We
<v Speaker 2>ask you about a you're gona put together a TV marathon.
<v Speaker 2>He's a Friday night since in Marthon. And now, what
<v Speaker 2>was the TV station to add on it? In the
<v Speaker 2>you in our New Zealand?
<v Speaker 4>You actually got it right. I was very impressed.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was TV and Z two.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I was shocked. You knew that? What well?
<v Speaker 4>We called you know, we called it channel too, but
<v Speaker 4>it was run by TV and Z. I can't believe
<v Speaker 4>you knew that two whole channels? Yeah, really, two whole channels.
<v Speaker 4>We actually had three. I think I'm trying from memory.
<v Speaker 4>The Simpson was on channel was on channel two when
<v Speaker 4>I was a kid, and then it shifted to three
<v Speaker 4>due to you know, who knows what rights issues and
<v Speaker 4>stuff beyond me, but.
<v Speaker 2>It was it was what your memories are of it
<v Speaker 2>being on two?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, so yeah, I remember being packaged with friends
<v Speaker 4>and okay, yes, and I remember and I remember and
<v Speaker 4>they played off Friends and the Simpsons and they did
<v Speaker 4>a song to ode to joy anyway anyway, anyway, but yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I was trying to pick I I think these are
<v Speaker 4>just my five just favorite episodes of the Simpsons. I
<v Speaker 4>think again as a kid, maybe not necessarily the most
<v Speaker 4>entertaining for me to watch, but the most entertaining for
<v Speaker 4>me to watch now. And so yeah, obviously the Cartridge Family,
<v Speaker 4>I think.
<v Speaker 2>Is okay one of the one which one would which
<v Speaker 2>one would you start with? You're going to just pick
<v Speaker 2>one to start with? Which would you kick off your
<v Speaker 2>five episode marathon with? Oh, Friday night, you got pizza,
<v Speaker 2>you got a two leater bottle of to PEPSI.
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's good. Then, maybe, oh maybe that does change things.
<v Speaker 4>Oh maybe I would still open with the Artridge family
<v Speaker 4>because it does kind of cover cover the entire Simpsons family,
<v Speaker 4>and it's the one that's most focused on the entire family.
<v Speaker 4>I think of the ones I've perked, and then I'd
<v Speaker 4>pick Homer at the Bat, which I think is a
<v Speaker 4>phenomenal episode. I think, Yeah, mister Burns is maybe my
<v Speaker 4>favorite minor major, minor character, you know, maybe of the
<v Speaker 4>secondary character character. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>The funny that the cast absolutely hated that episode because
<v Speaker 2>they thought they were being written out of it. The
<v Speaker 2>Simpson was getting really popular at that point and they
<v Speaker 2>thought there was all the lines were going to the
<v Speaker 2>guest stars and like do you still want us or not?
<v Speaker 2>So the cast, the cast hated it, but us the
<v Speaker 2>fans loved it.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, No, I mean the the baseball players all be
<v Speaker 4>taken out one by one and random events is so
<v Speaker 4>so funny and gigantism. I told you to shave those
<v Speaker 4>side birds of the one of the you guys might
<v Speaker 4>remember his name, but the baseball player who keep them
<v Speaker 4>to his lines. And then the reason that he gets
<v Speaker 4>taken out is that he's been too heroic, you know,
<v Speaker 4>like he runs into the fire and the lady says,
<v Speaker 4>my washer.
<v Speaker 2>And dryer or whatever runs keep going back in.
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, he was originally taken out by something else,
<v Speaker 4>but he didn't like the way he was portrayed and demanded.
<v Speaker 2>Him The name escapes me. But I know exactly. So
<v Speaker 2>he didn't die. He was just late because he were
<v Speaker 2>saving somebody.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, made him too much of a hero. And then
<v Speaker 4>apparently for the rest of his life people would ask
<v Speaker 4>him about that episode and edwards because he just hated
<v Speaker 4>the Simpsons.
<v Speaker 2>What's like Spruce Spreingsteen. He turned down Radio Bart. That's
<v Speaker 2>why Sting is in now where he falls down the well, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>want to he said, No, he's still to this day, like,
<v Speaker 2>why do you do the Simpsons? Like, stop asking me
<v Speaker 2>about the Simpsons.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and then Burns Baby Burns another one again.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>These are just the only episodes that I think just
<v Speaker 4>make me laugh so much. Yeah. I think Rodney Dangerfield
<v Speaker 4>in this episode is so strong. There's so so many
<v Speaker 4>good gigs. The one where when they insult Marge and
<v Speaker 4>the basement and then Rodney goes, oh, no, give it
<v Speaker 4>up to your mother. She's all right, And she's all right.
<v Speaker 4>Marge doesn't quite know how to react.
<v Speaker 2>My kids absolutely loved Homer being forced outside to because
<v Speaker 2>I was like, we can't go out there police in
<v Speaker 2>broad daylight. And then he goes outside, gets caught going
<v Speaker 2>outside when police aman in broad daylight. One idiocy. My
<v Speaker 2>kid's not hilarious, but you god, you're the biggest. Your
<v Speaker 2>favorite moment is there? Put it back in She's not.
<v Speaker 4>Little line. Also when they drive past, they drive past
<v Speaker 4>Larry Burns at first and he's holding a sign that
<v Speaker 4>says Springfield, I kind of get a poll to hold
<v Speaker 4>that song. So many just really strong.
<v Speaker 2>Jokes, great character designed too, because he looks like mister Burns,
<v Speaker 2>but it also looks like Rodney danger Is.
<v Speaker 4>They somehow do it? They so how do it? Both?
<v Speaker 4>And there's a bit where when mister Burns shows them
<v Speaker 4>the playroom, which is the room with the theater production
<v Speaker 4>running in it, but they walked over to it and
<v Speaker 4>Rodney Dangerfield he's like he's doing the hunched warp with
<v Speaker 4>his hands up like mister Burns.
<v Speaker 2>Again he says, hey, no, you are right.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, just the little bits of stand up comedy
<v Speaker 4>and there very funny. And the final one, well two
<v Speaker 4>more sorry one is Summer of four? Is it foot
<v Speaker 4>two or feet two. I actually pot four foot four
<v Speaker 4>foot two. I think that one. I mean, the making
<v Speaker 4>fun of Millhouse will always crackt me up, I think.
<v Speaker 4>And it just has one of my favorite favorite moments
<v Speaker 4>in the show, which is one of the one of
<v Speaker 4>the girls, one of Lisa's new friends, says, Lisa, your
<v Speaker 4>mom is so cool. If it was my mum should
<v Speaker 4>be interrupted coming in right now with rice, Chrispy swears
<v Speaker 4>and orange and Marge comes in with that stuff. Here's
<v Speaker 4>it walks right out and that makes me laugh so
<v Speaker 4>so so.
<v Speaker 2>It's just like Grandpa when he walks into the lescout Seas, but.
<v Speaker 4>The flipping it's so funny. Yeah. And then the final
<v Speaker 4>one I pick is a Millhouse Divided. I think, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>when Kirk and Lawan get divorced, I think, just yeah,
<v Speaker 4>Kirk van Howden is just a very funny said.
<v Speaker 2>That was the birth of Kirk. Really, it really was. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>And what I liked about that one in particular was
<v Speaker 2>that the end doesn't give you the happy ending, It
<v Speaker 2>gives you the realistic why the funk would she take it?
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't want this guy. And at most shows, the
<v Speaker 2>hit sing a song and you're like, you know, what.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Chase. I know you're a gladiator and you're
<v Speaker 2>a great husband or a great new partner, but I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna go back to my old shitty husband. And it's no,
<v Speaker 2>that's not that's not what would really happen. And she's
<v Speaker 2>just like you no, But yeah, Kirk became a main
<v Speaker 2>character after he was always like on the show. But
<v Speaker 2>that's where he became the Kirk that we know and
<v Speaker 2>love now.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh yeah. And there's just so many strong, strong
<v Speaker 4>lines like the like the so that's it, you know,
<v Speaker 4>the when he hits five from the crack effectory who says,
<v Speaker 4>you know, do single people heat crackers? We don't know. Frankly,
<v Speaker 4>we don't want to know.
<v Speaker 2>It's the market we can do without. That's also the
<v Speaker 2>I don't recall anying good luck, it's.
<v Speaker 4>Goodbye and good luck of phenomenal.
<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, now that I'm being married for ten years now,
<v Speaker 2>But like watching that one, when you're married, it hits
<v Speaker 2>it differently, even be in a relationship. It's like trying
<v Speaker 2>to do in games nights with your wife. Just don't
<v Speaker 2>do it.
<v Speaker 4>Don't do it.
<v Speaker 2>Don't want to show the cat because the cat's going
<v Speaker 2>to get it.
<v Speaker 4>So good, that's so good, And is that the one
<v Speaker 4>at the end and Homer goes, yeah, Homie goes, I
<v Speaker 4>want to renew her vows or whatever. Margin is like, oh,
<v Speaker 4>we don't have to do that. He goes, Yes, we do,
<v Speaker 4>because I've we've done to the class.
<v Speaker 2>Good device this afternoon.
<v Speaker 4>That's a beautiful, misjudged romantic.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's a great marathon.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, oh thank you. Yeah. Are those I think
<v Speaker 4>are just some of the episodes, but yeah, there, I
<v Speaker 4>mean the Simpsons. I mean that this podcast could go
<v Speaker 4>on for hours and hours. I we just sat here
<v Speaker 4>and relayed our favorite lines. Like I was even thinking
<v Speaker 4>about the one where they recount is it how Lisa
<v Speaker 4>Lisa is born and or Maggie is born and Homer
<v Speaker 4>is leaving the bowling Bowling Alley and I remember all
<v Speaker 4>the different people are complimenting him, and he just thinks
<v Speaker 4>it's about his promotion, and I think mostly is a
<v Speaker 4>home away to go on getting Marge pricked. All these
<v Speaker 4>compliments are becoming more abstract.
<v Speaker 2>I do love the bol that's that's Maggie. That has
<v Speaker 2>my favorite ending of all time become a big soppy
<v Speaker 2>it's that it for her?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's absolutely phenomenal, ended so sweet.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, all right, well, thank you so much, Ray for
<v Speaker 2>joining you today. It's been a pleasure to have you
<v Speaker 2>on the show.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Thank you so much for having me and
<v Speaker 4>for getting to discuss my favorite episode of the Simpsons.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, yes much.
<v Speaker 2>Indeed. Now before you go, though, let's of course plug
<v Speaker 2>those two dates once again. I'll put on the description.
<v Speaker 2>I'll put them more on in the description of this
<v Speaker 2>podcast obviously. But hit in the UK next year again, yes,
<v Speaker 2>then early earlier this.
<v Speaker 4>Year, were there, yes, I was, yeah, yeah, so that yeah,
<v Speaker 4>the same time every year I tend to hit over here,
<v Speaker 4>so you go, yeah, fifth to March, I'll be in
<v Speaker 4>the all over England, Scotland, Ireland. So you check out
<v Speaker 4>those dates and and keep your eyes peeled on my
<v Speaker 4>social media because yeah, I'm working on my new show
<v Speaker 4>now and so that'll be touring all around Australia and
<v Speaker 4>New Zealand next year.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, brilliant and sure we'll see you and have you
<v Speaker 3>be paying attention again next year as well, I'm assuming.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well I hope so as well. Please you know,
<v Speaker 4>begin the literarty campaign, get me on the show.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, whatever, obviously it's big bags of the dollar
<v Speaker 2>signs exactly.
<v Speaker 4>I will endorse anything of the big is.
<v Speaker 2>That is that you egg cavalie? All right, thanks again Ray.
<v Speaker 4>Well so thank you very much.
<v Speaker 2>Thanks very