The Current State of WWE: Cody's Run As WWE Champion Thus Far

This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre, and you're listening to the WWE podcast show,
the one that everybody wants me sixteen. So I just up your ass.
It is my arm. You're gonna acknowledge me, everybody. We are
back. We're back with the current state of WWE. After a couple of
weeks of absence due to just crazy schedules, mostly on my end, we
are back. Anthony DeMarco is back in the saddle in the co host chair.
As we are going to break down the current state of WWE, pick
a topic or two and then deep dive into it. But before we get
there, how you doing, buddy? It has been too damn long?
Two damn long? I mean you you were busy. Sometimes I was busy.
Sometimes, Hey, I got an after dar show. It at what
was at Sunday at ten pm? So obviously there's blood on both of our
hands. But we've finally been able to link up our schedules, and to
be honest, if there's a period where you have to kind of slack off
a bit right after backlash is typically that time to do so, because it's
even a downtime typically in WWE, Yes, it is it feels very much
like we are now fully past Mania. There's no more tribute videos to it,
there's no more anything. It's just Yeah, it feels kind of like
we're on a downslide. But that's fine. I'm not worried about the product.
That's normal. It is very much just focused on tournament, tournament,
tournament, tournament, and almost to the point of exhaustion. But I'm cool
with it because it's a lot of wrestling and that's what we like. But
before we talk about what we're going to talk about tonight, I do want
to just bring up quickly about the conversation before I hit the record button.
We were talking about the lineages of championships and why WWE does the things that
they do with the belts, and if you go on to it, if
no one has done it. This is one of the first times I've done
it in a long time. If you go on ww's website, you look
under their championships, you can look under every single belt that they have or
have had in their history and go through who has held it for how long
And if you look back and see some of these belts, like for example,
the World Heavyweight Title was created out of nothing this past year over last
year twenty twenty three seth Rolin's obviously the first one to win it. We
don't know why they just reinvented the wheel. They could have pulled off the
old World Heavyweight title. But Anthony, I know that you had some pretty
good points about the belts and some interesting things that I don't know you wanted
to mention quickly. Yeah, well, I'll purface this by saying that this
is all useless information that will serve you no good in the future. But
if you're someone who goes down rabbit holes like I do late at night sometimes,
you probably know all of this. But specifically with the tag team titles,
because the IC Championship, the US Championship, the WWE Championship, those
are lineages that have held true for the last what thirty forty fifty years in
some cases the US one going all the way back to WCW. But it
really gets convoluted with the tag team titles. And you see the World tag
team titles right now, and for reference, the ones that miss and Truth
hold on raw. That lineage actually begins back in two when they were created
for SmackDown, dubbed as the WWE Tag Team titles. I think Stephanie McMahon
created them, and there was a tournament, and if I'm not mistaken,
the inaugural WWE Tag Team champions were Kurt Angle and Chris Benoi, and then
they later became the Tag Team Championships with like the Penny titles, is that
what everyone nicknamed them, with the black strap and like a big penny in
the middle, and then we're turned into the Raw Tag Team Championships, which
were now turned in the World Tag Team Titles and the WWE Tag Team Championships.
The one that Waller and Theory have were the SmackDown Tag Team titles that
were created for SmackDown Live when Shane McMahon and Daniel Brown were running it in
twenty sixteen, only eight years old. Inaugural winners Slater and Rhino. So,
I mean, it's a bit confusing, but if you have a very
I guess I guess, a very good memory like I do, you can
kind of follow everything. But then you even get like the women's the women's
titles in general, like I believe the Women's World title, the one that
Ripley has on Raw that has the lineage. I want to say, the
SmackDown Women's Championship, which was created in twenty sixteen, and the WWE Women's
Championship has the Raw lineage that was created in twenty sixteen as well. I
think because they retired the Divas Championship, they created the Women's Championship with it,
which then became the Raw Women's Championship, and the original Women's Championship was
retired in twenty ten after like a thirty year lineage more or less in favor
of the Divas Championship. So it's just all kind of convoluted when you're trying
to keep track of all these things. So, I mean, I guess
it sounds complicated over this, but I mean we just walked through it with
you and I before we had record here, and you were even kind of
perplexed about how convoluted it can be. I don't know why. I mean,
here's the thing, though, in the moment, whatever storyline that they're
doing, whatever story they're trying to tell, they don't really care too much
about per se the convolutedness because you're not thinking about They're not thinking about it
on a macro level. They're thinking about it in the moment. What do
we need to have happen, especially in the Vince McMahon era. I guess
whatever we want we want to dub the last forty years prior to Triple H.
I mean, there was a lot of kind of there was a lot
of hot shotting, a lot of smart booking. Obviously very successful given where
WWE is now and what it has become. But you know, there is
an r a lot of titles that you look at and go, wait,
this started, stopped, here, became this, was absorbed into this,
but then they got re split and like it's like like we were talking about
earlier with the brand splits, those obviously rebrand a lot of championships, but
then it carries the lineage of a championship that was named something else before.
Uh, and it does get unnecessarily convoluted. But again you have to remember,
even though it is super convoluted, and ideally you would just have very
straightforward lineages for ic US WWE, nothing else would have been changed or rebranded.
It's not life, that's not WWE, that's not pro wrestling. So
in the eyes of pro wrestling that you know, that's kind of the way
that we're going to have to live is through changes and you know, combinations,
and then resplitting again and then rebranding again. I mean, I just
whoever had to put that together on the website. I hope they were doing
it as they were going along and not having to like dig up old footage
and go, oh my god, wait, so wait what happened here?
I mean, imagine that being your project to have to take all all these
championships from scratch and figure out the lineages of them from start to finish.
It it's got to be a complete logistic nightmare. And then you also get
into what qualifies as a world title victory. Like John Cena, his sixteen
Championship is between the WWE and the World Heavyweight Championship, the original World Heavyweight
Championship. Ditto for Randy Yorton. But for a guy like Rick Flair,
I imagine they count the WWE title, the NWA Championship and the World heavy
or the WCW World Championship, And was the world was the WCW Championship the
successor to the NWA? Like, are you a wrestling historian enough to know
that? I have no idea? That sounds right? But boy, you're
asking the wrong guys, again, if it's prior to ninety seven, I
didn't start watching so well. The only reason I thought about was because I
was listening to Chris van vlitza Insight podcast, and he was talking about like
Matt Hardy never having been a world champion, even though Matt how was ECW
champion, but like the second ECW and they don't count that as he's as
a world championship. But then like Big Show is the only man to hold
the ECWWWE and WCW Championship, so they try and prop it up as such.
And then if John Cen is gonna break Rick Flair's record, if he
wins the new World Heavyweight Championship, does that count as a world title?
And even Randy Orton's in that mix. So it's just very tough when you're
counting different championships as the same. Like I think even technically The Rock is
a ten time world champion, but it's because he won the WCW Championship twice
in WWF, so I don't know. It's it's very I guess pick and
choosy, if you will, arbitrary at times. But as we discuss,
I guess Triple H is trying to correct course after what fifteen years of Vince
McMahon really not giving a damn about these types of things. And we'll see
if Triple H over the coming years wants consistency, if he falls into the
same traps or pitfalls that Vince did of like, well, well, I
kind of need this for the story. We'll worry about the lineage part later
and just do what's good for the short term and then of you know,
long term, you're looking back going man that that you know that really screwed
things up, and we'll see. I mean, it's a temptation that I
understand is difficult, especially if you're like, oh, well, that'd be
so cool if we could create this championship or morphin into this or merge and
have a titled unification match. Like, I understand the temptation. So we'll
see how Triple H does. But as you were asking me about the NWA
Championship, I had to google it and I said, okay, where where's
the lineage of this go? And this is according to Wikipedia, so hey,
now that is generally I find that to be relatively accurate. But the
last person to hold an nwaight hold the NWA Championship was EC three on August
twenty seven, twenty twenty three, at the NWA seventy fifth anniversary show,
So he was the one hundred and first person to hold the championship, or
at least the number of title change with the NWA title, he's one hundred
and first change, so EC three in August of twenty twenty three apparently the
final guy to hold it. So fun fact, well, you know what,
my brain has been twisted into a pretzel, So let's just move on
to a regular topic for the night. Rich Hey, guys, I bet
you have no clue what or who we're going to talk about. And it's
been too long since we've discussed mister Rhodes, and you know, it has
been forty three days or so since he has been champion, and I have
to say, so far, i'm and I know that you and I are
not a fan of him, so it's difficult to put that aside. But
I'm bored and I'm bored with him, and I don't know if that's because
of the fact that it's Postmania and that's just kind of the way things are,
or if it would be different if it was someone else. I feel
like for a month straight he was coming out and just cutting promos and not
working really seriously with anybody. They didn't seem to have any real opponents lined
up that were of any threat. And now he's got Logan Paul, which
we'll get to. And I just want your take though, before we talk
about Logan Paul, which I think is a game changer in a way.
How are you feeling about his forty little over forty day rain thus far?
You know, it's I'll preface it by saying that I think a lot of
it isn't Cody Rhoades's fault. You know, we discussed how it's almost normal
for WW to go into a bit of a lull post Backlash until Summer Slamish
season, just because the honeymoon phase of WW Wrestling is over and once you
go by backlash like you're really past it completely. So a lot of it
isn't his fault. But I think what we've seen a bit with Cody is
that his entire character and his entire pun intended story was built around finishing the
story. And I even know some friends, like one or two who were
huge Cody Road supporters, and we were chatting last week, and one of
them was just like, you know, he won the belt. It was
awesome. I loved it. And now I'm just like, well, like,
I just don't care anymore. And that's what they said, And you
know, I had that fear. But I was also, like you said,
and much like yourself, a Cody hater in a lot of ways,
the antithesis of a Cody cry baby. But hearing it from Cody supporters,
like avid Cody supporters, it was impactful and it almost made me want to
defend him. Maybe that's just a bit of the contrarian in me, but
I was saying, like, well, this is what happens when creative shoves
it down your throat so much that everything relating to this guy is that he's
Dusty Rhodes's son. And I think it's only now against Logan Paul that that
isn't the main talking point. And I'm must say that Cody Rhodes's promo this
past week I really liked. I liked when he hit him with the line
of like, the honeymoon phase with you is over, and like I said,
it's a lot of it is just everyday stuff or every year stuff in
WWE. It's not all on Cody's all at Cody's feet, Like I even
think Damian Priest run has been a bit mess so far on Monday Night Rod
just because it's the post Mania season now, But I just find with Cody
it's felt more deflating because of how hot the story was going into WrestleMania.
And let's be honest, the two biggest antagonists going into Mania, in Rock
and Roman reigns haven't been seen since the night after Mania, so there's been
a lot of air been taking out that balloon as well. So it's not
all at the feet of Cody. But I think for anybody looking at what's
happened objectively, you can plinpoint that, yeah, this was the danger when
the entire substance of Cody's character and the main reason for caring about him was
finishing the story for story for his dad. Now you've done that, and
you don't really have a lot else to pull off of. Yeah, what's
his thing now, Like, what's his mission, what's his path? It's
just been and again cutting good promos, which he does. I'm not a
fan of his cadence and the way he talks and mister self aware I just
I get that sense and I can't stand it. But he's good at promos,
no doubt about it. And this past week, you know, he
did cut it. I didn't hate the promo either, I thought while he
brought up nineteen ninety two, and I thought, for sure, I go,
oh my god, he's talking about war games in nineteen ninety two,
right, Survivor series. And I'm just like, oh my god. I'm
like, please do not even mention your father. I like, can we
go one story without mentioning your dad? And he didn't. He didn't,
and I thought for sure he would. But he again he brought up the
fact that Logan Paul's a tourist. I like that line as well. He
felt like very much like he's a tourist and it's time to go home,
right, And I did enjoy that part of it because Logan Paul, to
a lot of people still kind of feels that way. He still feels like
he's just a visitor. He's just here for a short time and gone.
I actually hope that's not the case. I mean, I have really,
really, week after week become more and more invested in a good way with
Logan Paul. I think he has felt like he he feels like he actually
is taking this seriously. We knew in ring there was no problem, but
on the mic and character wise' that's to me where he's excelling and progressing the
most is in his promost and in his character who he is all of that,
his comfortability on the microphone has really just I mean, at an exponential
rate. I've enjoyed Logan paul a lot, and I think that when you
look at this match, I don't know how you feel about it. With
the upcoming match here in Saudi, do you think there's any chance that he
beats Cody Rhoades. I know Cody's He's what forty? I don't know what
do you feel about it? You know, obviously my first instinct is to
say there's no way in how Cody walks out without the championship out of Saudi,
just because of they built the story for twenty four months. They've put
the company on his shoulders. He's been a fighting champion and look to be
honest, as much as I hate Cody, I am so happy to see
at the WWE Championship each and every week on SmackDown. Like, I don't
know how you feel about that, even though you're not a fan of the
character. Oh no, no, no, That's another good point is seeing
an actual world champion on Raw or on SmackDown weekly is nice. Even if
he was there every other week. I know they're gonna put him every week.
That's fine. The bar has been set so low of when the SmackDown
Champion or the WWN Speed champions should be there. Yeah. Yeah, no,
It's refreshing, no doubt. So just that in and of itself,
I like it, even though I don't like the guy carrying it around.
I still am happy he won the championship at WrestleMania, just because you have
a present champion each and every week on SmackDown. But you I'm not a
huge fan of champion versus champion. Now they've made it just for the undisputed
Championship, which I think in a way is cool right because it makes it
less predictable like when it was for both titles. Everyone was just like,
oh, it will be like a no contest or disqualification. The Wide six
will get involved, and if anyone wins, it will be Cody and you'll
be a double champion and you be Kaye and Wilson Kumbaya as we look at
a picture of Dusty and light a candle, you know, But now that
it is an advantage for the heel, it makes it more interesting. And
look, do I still think that Cody Rhods is gonna win? Yeah,
but I think there's a chance Logan Paul could win because look, Saudi Arabia
is clearly a Logan Paul fan. The only other time he's challenged for the
Undisputed Championship was in Saudi Arabia against Roman Reigns and a heel versus heel match.
He won the United States Championship in Saudi Arabia against Ray Maisterio and they've
handpicked him, I would believe. And look, there is a lot to
say that they lack star power right now. Seth isn't there, Rock isn't
there, Brock isn't there. Roman isn't there. But I think it says
something pretty significant when Saudi Arabia, because they pay fifty million bucks a shot,
kind of have Logan Paul always in prominent places in their lineup card.
And for me, I'm saying, like, WWE's in a lull right now,
Logan Paul has knocked this thing out of the park. They have Prime
tattooed everywhere all over their production. He has a podcast that routinely has WWE
wrestlers on it. He's really made that US Championship feel legitimate since a long
time, a very very long time, even despite them trying to force it
onto Austin theory and make it feel important just by happenstance on theory. I
don't know, like, is there a chance they could put the ww Championship
on Logan Paul, even if it's for a short while, but just for
the sheer volume it would get in terms of like impressions on social media and
across public spaces. So I'm in your camp when it comes to who's gonna
win. I mean, Cody is an overwhelming favorite, and I'm not gonna
I'm not picking Logan Paul to win, but the argument for him to win
is stronger than I think people realize. As you outline some of those points,
he has killed everything he's been in in a good way. He has
absolutely over delivered every time he's been out there. He hasn't yet got on
the mic or in the ring, and you've said, oh man, that
was bad, right, Like he needs some work now character wise, Yeah,
that takes time. But every time I hear him and see him,
he's improving and he just his confidence is there. He doesn't feel like he's
a fish out of water anymore. And so the argument to have him win
is somewhat strong. I mean, you have a guy that, as you
said, he's killed it every time he's been out there. He's currently the
US champion and has added value to that championship. Somehow He's found a way,
even with like ten matches in, He's found a way to make it
somehow more prestigious. He has a future that you could see him being multi
time world champion, and he will if he wants to make this a full
time gig. And so yeah, having him win, you imagine the social
media explosion would be insane. Now, I think there's almost no chance because
of the precursor that the Cody had that segment before he left, each of
them holding each other's championships, which tells you, Okay, yeah, they're
going with that, whether it's Rock and Cody at SummerSlam or at WrestleMania for
the undispeeded championship. And I don't know if Rock's putting his people's championship on
the line. I don't know about that. So to me, there's almost
no chance of a title change, But there is an argument to at least
be had, at least hear out at the production meetings of like, hey
guys, wait, well wait, let's think about this for a second,
just for a second. We have an opportunity here to just shock people into
oblivion with a guy that actually could probably carry the company for a short time.
Maybe Cody could win it back, but I don't know. I mean,
how would you feel about that? I know, given the Rock is
coming back in probably a few months, and we'll see him around Summer Slam,
Roman will see him around SummerSlam. All the big players are coming back
in a few months, and there is our matches to be had with Cody
as champion. Would you even dare for just a month or two have just
have a short run with the belt for Logan, Paul, I don't see
how it's a bad thing, honestly, And look at the upcoming pay per
view, specifically the next two because yes, money in the bank is technically
international, but it's in Toronto right that it's still when shows are in Canada.
It still feels very like American ass because it's it's in North America.
But you have Saudi Arabia and Clash at the Castle, and it's been well
documented that Clash at the Castle tickets have been just absolutely absurd in terms of
pricing. They're gouging people over there. So I'm thinking, like, if
they're going to have people pay up, which they will, we know people
will pony up. There's even listeners to this show that I've heard right in
on the mail bag and talk about how it was damn expensive, but they're
paying the price. WWE is gonna give them something to remember. And look,
I think a lot of people are assuming that Drew McIntyre gets his moment
in front of his home crowd and wins the World Heavyweight Championship. But could
they go even bigger and have two world title changes? And I'm saying,
if you have Logan Paul Shock, the world get so many more eyeballs back
on the product at pardon me at King and King of the King and Queen
of the Ring, easy enough for me to say, and become a double
champion, the first double champion I believe since seth Rawlins in twenty fifteen when
he defeated Johnson for the US Championship. So nine years later holding the US
title and the WWE title, and he holds it for I believe less than
a month. Isn't Clash of the Castle at June fifteenth, I believe yep.
Then you could have Cody Rhodes win that title back. You make WWE
get that bump in popularity, have all these eyeballs on it during a period
that's a really big downtime usually like between let's say mid May and the end
of June. That's usually a really big lull in the time of WWEE And
if you make that switch and you just have people watching SmackDown each and every
week, Logan Paul carrying around the most prestigious championship and the US Championship the
face of SmackDown on Fox, and then you have him drop the title back
to Cody at Clash of the Castle. You have two major championship changes at
Clash of the Castle. It makes it semi worth it for the absurdly high
ticket prices that they've put out for Clash of the Castle. And then you
still have Cody. You have Cody with two months to re establish himself heading
into SummerSlam. Look, I'm not saying it's possible. I'm not saying or
I'm not saying that it's likely. I'm not saying that that's my prediction.
But the more I think about it, I would actually be in favor of
it. There's no better time to do something like this than a few months
after WrestleMania. You're you're you're kind of in that in between weird spot,
like you said, where yeah, ratings go down, it's just normal and
people are blaming all the ratings are going down because of Cody. No,
it's not. I'll be I'll actually defend Cody on that. Look at the
ratings of Raw or SmackDown from WrestleMania to you know, a few months out.
Every time the ratings drop, I will not put that at the feed
of Cody. That is not his fault for the ratings dropping. It's just
the nature of the business and the way that the viewership is every single year.
But you know, here, here's the other thing is the way Triple
H has booked championships. All the fans know that Triple AH is a massive
fan of long reigning championship Like Long raining up having long rains like that's been
his thing. That's been one of his big points and big kind of fingerprints
on any time he has title matches, title changes. When there's one that's
done, it's one that has meaning. It's not just to do it to
do it. However, in this case, I think it would shock fans
even more because everyone going in goes, well, it's it's you know,
Cody's only had it for a month and a half. There's no way they're
going to do it. On top of it, Triple H never seems to
want to have short times. He's much more of a strategic, long term
guy, and that I think would put fans in the minds put that in
the minds of fans even deeper that there's no chance because of the way Triple
H has booked that if you do it, you're not doing it to do
it. You're doing it for a couple of reasons. Number one, shock
value, which there is something to be said for shock value if there's more
to it than just that. And the deeper meaning is getting eyeballs on the
product would be a big, big factor. How does Cody get it back?
Oh my god, are you kidding? Me, he lost it?
What the hell is going on? So all the people that may have tuned
out after the WrestleMania and all the story being finished, come back and go,
what the hell? Wait a minute, are you kidding me? He
just dropped it? What like you would have the interests come back and then
the fight for Cody to get it back, which would only take a month
or two, and he gets it back in time for SummerSlam to defend it
against the Rock or whoever. So there is a story to be told,
or at least an argument to be made for it happening. There are big
benefits, although I mean again, you and I think it's probably not going
to happen. No, it's probably not going to happen. But I think
that sometimes doing things for shock value when it can be beneficial in terms of
ratings. And let's be honest, wrestling's a business and we've seen prime and
impulsive tattooed everywhere over WW since WrestleMania season. Think about how much popularity they
would get for their SmackDown brand on Fox if they had Logan paul As holding
both the men's singles championships on SmackDown. It'd be insane it'd be absolutely insane,
and you have these two major changes go down at international pay per views
Saudi Arabia, where like I said, historically they really do like Logan Paul
and Clash of the Castle where it's been in the news overseas, like I
think on BNNN, Blueberg or whatever about how absurd the prices are on these
tickets. So you're gonna want to send the crowd home happy a bit for
having them re mortgage their houses. Obviously I'm being hyperbolic a bit, but
I'm saying like it's such a quick turnaround, like it's less than a month,
it's what three smackdowns between King and Queen of the Ring and Clash of
the Castle. I really don't think it would hurt Cody. And then you
know what we WWE loves to talk about how many times people are World Champions
or WWE champions. He would already be a two time WWE champion, and
then he could regain the title at Clash of the Castle. And then if
you want to have the rubber match at Money in the Bank in Toronto,
you could have Cody win again. And then Cody has a legitimate feud coming
off of a very big. I think a lackluster one. Not the match,
but the feud itself with AJ styles and something he actually sunk his teeth
into between WrestleMania season and SummerSlam, as opposed to just one off here,
one off there, one off there, Like, I think you would do
a lot for the product, and do a lot for Cody and for a
guy like me and even yourself who aren't big Cody guys to begin with.
I think having him face a bit of adversity here would do a lot for
us to be interested in his character and to be honest, the way I'm
thinking about it, I would be really chomping at the bit to see Cody
Roads trying to regain the title at Clash of the Castle that it took him
two years to get and then less than two months to lose. I honestly
think you want to talk about story, this story that I think that's a
hell of a story and something to really sprite up the product. The only
thing I'm concerned about is if they do that, are we gonna have Cody,
you know, sobbing on air that he lost the title? You know
what I'm saying, Like I lost the belt that I you know, it
took me two years to get and I got from my daddy. Like you
know, I could see another SOB story coming from that. But I mean,
for real, though, I think that there is something to be said
for this, because again Logan has shown that he can be champion and he
has elevated the US title. He delivers every time he's in the ring.
Logan Paul as wwn undispeeded WWE champion to me would be a lot of fun
to watch because you know it's not going to be for long. He's a
double champion now he can do double duty if need be. But he and
Cody, I think, are going to have awesome chemistry when it comes to
their match in just a few days here in Saudi. You know the match
quality is going to be very high value. It would be again the chock
value of people going wait, like the social media Twitter x would blow up
and people would go what is going on? But again, it would totally
blow up the idea of what Triple H and how he books, how fans
perceive that Triple H books. It would put a seed of doubt in their
minds from here until forever that they are going, oh my god, wait
a minute, so we Triple h can do this because up until now it's
been very formulaic. There's been a few surprises, but nothing like this.
So if he does this every once in a great while, it is forever
going to be planted in the fans' minds of wait, this might happen.
And I think that's important, like not every run has to be this super
long title reign. And look, Logan Paul is the longest reigning champion right
now. I think there's a good chance that Chad Gable wins the Intercontinental Championship
at King and que of the Ring. But look, I think we're gonna
see Bailey have a long run. I think Becky Lynch may have a long
run until Rha Ripley gets back, although I imagine Live Morgan will win the
title before then. I mean, for me, I think that just because
of how the story is being told. Again, no pun intended with Cody
Rhodes and Logan Paul. I think it would behoove Cody going into whatever big
match at SummerSlam, that is, whether that's against Rock or Roman or Triple
Threat. I think it would have more steam behind him and more interest in
him if he had faced adversity in between Mania and SummerSlam. Like for me,
the match was good. But did the AJ Styles program do anything for
Cody Rhoads. No, No, I don't think it did a thing for
him. And I think it helped AJ get him back in the minds of
fans of oh my god, he can be a main eventor he is as
good as he still has ever been. But when it comes to Cody Rhods,
no, I don't think it really did anything for him other than just
yeah, he's he's damn good in the ring. You know, he can
put on great main events. H And I just I don't think it did
anything for him, But I don't think it also hurt him. I don't
think it took away anything by any means either. I don't think so either.
But I mean, if you just do a one off against the Logan
Paul, then you go to Clash of the Castle and just for argument's sake,
he has a I don't know, he faces off against I don't know,
Tomatonga or whatever, and then you have a one off at money in
the bank. Like, I just think you need to give him a legitimate
multi match feud with someone over the course of two or three pay per views,
and given the magnitude of the upcoming pay per views with them being unconventional
ones overseas money in the bank in Toronto, Like, I think it would
be a stretch of a month and a half where you have a program with
a title change to title changes in this perfect world, and it's in a
time that's typically a very boring ishu or not boring, but just a downtime
in the post scene, the post Mania hangover. So I don't know,
like and I actually think that this would help Cody Roads in a lot of
ways for people who are starting to lose interest in them, because it would
give him that mission statement. We've just spoken about it. What's his mission?
Now? He finished the story for his daddy, Okay, great,
He brought up his daddy again with aj styles, okay great. But now
if he won the title, or if he loses the title to Logan Paul,
let's say he comes out on SmackDown he says, you know what,
I finished this story for my dad, and now I'm getting it back for
me, like something like that, and then you could finally leave the dusty
Roads crap. I really took me everything not to swear there, but believe
the dusty Roads crap in the past and now make it like that one was
for him, but this time it's for me. Have him win the title
of Clash of the Castle, and then you have a reinvigorated Cody Roads with
a different dynamic to him. Yeah. I really like that where Cody makes
again not stop talking about his dad. You and I have been very adamant
about that, and I think there is a lot of value into that.
But you know, with Cody, he's great in most babyfaces, like most
of them are great in chase mode. I mean when they become champion,
they get to the top of the mountain, it's a lot of fun.
Right. Usually they have some opponents and the great matches that are intriguing,
but really the money is in the chase for a babyface. And look what
the chase got Cody in the last two years. I mean, the chase
is always, some time, not always a lot of times more fun than
the actual destination because you get there and then you're like, okay, now
what And now I feel like we're looking at Cody going now, what,
who are you? What's your mission now? And this would add a lot
of just intrigue. It would It would add that element of unpredictability in the
minds of fans that I feel like people understand who and what Triple H is.
But yeah, so any final thoughts. My child is screaming, so
any any final thoughts as we wrap things up here? No, it's all
good. I think we got it all out, but go take care.
Some have school cleaning in there over there. Yeah, I'm gonna do that
and all right, well, I hate to cut this short a little bit
everybody, but I'm needed as my two year old is screaming. So all
right, buddy, Well we've will be chatting in a week and you take
care, all right, man, take it easy and good luck. Thanks
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