It's 5:20 Somewhere - Starlito Talks Tour, Documentary & Relationships

Welcome back to It is five twenty somewhere where the
drinks hit, the conversations go left, and the chaos is
always somewhere in the mix. I am your girl, Barbie,
And of course to my left, I got the beautiful Trap.
How you feeling, mama?
I'm good.
You're looking real bubbly and pink and cute and fun.
Yeah you like you smell like roses and daisies. Now
do you want to smell me? I do you too far.
After the show.
And to my right, I got the beautiful Why are
you shaking your head because don't do all this.
I'm about I'm about.
You gay too, girl trot not today I'm not drunk.
And a couple of drinks you will be like drink up.
To my right, I got my little lemon drop Kiki,
what flavor lemon dropp?
Are you feeling like today?
Today?
It's giving BlackBerry a BlackBerry lemon d the blacker the berry,
sweeter the juice.
Nigga's the dark of the berry, the sweeter the juice.
But we got getting back to bad guests, back to bag.
Gets back to back, and let me do my introduction.
Today we got a real Nashville legend on the couch.
He's currently on the not not your country, not the
country you know tour, excuse me, not the country you
know tour, giving us a behind the album documentary that
shows the real story of Nashville, not the tourist version.
From his pan to his independent grind from building his body,
mind and legacy, He's still showing us what being a
work in progress really looks like. Welcome to the couch,
mister Grindhard, himself, star Leado and team.
It's five twenty somewhere.
I appreciate that. Ai.
Yeah, yeah, it is not your country.
Tour, not the country.
All of this, I like, thank you.
I tried to get real reverse calgirl tonight, you know,
so we might as.
Well just jump straight into Let's just jump into Chick.
I'm on fit check Fick Chick.
And it's the BlackBerry, yes, ma'am, with the scrunchy booty,
the body and the hair quick with.
She ain't got her brush to night? Does she no crunch? Crunch?
That's that right?
That's that Hawaiian. Oh I keep doing that. My friends said,
you keep calling them Hawaiian.
Some mowing, some mowing, some mowing in her Okay, goddamn god, damn.
Looking like a motherfucking a ka like man, I was like.
It's giving water.
I was like flowers and things spring time. Okay, okay, alright,
yeah cowboy head man, check check you well, I'm not doing.
The speaks for itself. Yeah, there we.
Come.
I'm a friend of the program.
You know how you feeling.
I'm feeling better now. It was raining the whole way up.
Yeah yeah, rainy, gloomy day. But we got a little
sunshine for you, for sure. So let's get into our
drink trap, will we. Okay, what we feeling like tonight?
So this drink was inspired by our guest Starlito, A
little bit of old new and tonight, y'all we on
that gray goose, do I know?
You? You you? That was like three oh three.
Right around there.
But yeah, period, y'all was outside then. They probably shouldn't
have been, but you said we were.
I was in fourth grade. Yeah, no, we went at all.
Clubs back then. We was definitely at the at the parties.
You know.
Yeah, y'all wasn't even at the parties then. Don't try
to make him feel youngy.
Oh, we might. We were almost at the parties.
They ain't that old? That is not that old?
Mm hmm. Then we want we want.
Yeah, y'all were in middle school, but we knew what
was a girl like I said at the party for me,
Hello to drink a little old with the grey goose.
But then it's got some peach t What else have
got in it?
We had?
It's a great goose lemon, freshly squeezed leomon. We have
an orange liqueur, and then we have peach tea. You know,
we're trying to work on our little southern.
So we drew in the oh with the gray goose
and then the peach t a little country vibe, not
the country you.
Know, not the country you know. And we came up.
With this and it's called.
What the last call? The last called peach women ad?
What's your favorite?
Welcome where you want to take it with?
I don't know.
I got the whole girly girls starter back for you.
I like the toxic love songs, but I don't know.
I like my Love, my love, thinking of you.
I thought you was gonna say, thinking that's like that's
number two for me. You never heard that song, especially
with the what's.
That called the simple?
I originally thought that it was gonna be some real
sweet romantic Oh he's socksyna.
Ya.
You used to have me like like you don't probably
save so many niggas from hearing the bitch mouth because
I used to be listening thinking to you like, I'm
gonna shut up today, you know what, i ain't gonna
ask him no questions. You know what, I know these
house don't be messy and they be mad because they
miss they blessing.
I'm gonna just shut up.
Missport when he said I'm stuck with you, he ain't
go nowhere, So I'm about to talk ship all day.
You know she did miss though going through the phone ship.
Yeah, she could have been rich. No, I didn't.
But last time I went through a phone, I looked
through credit karma and everything, so I learned a little.
Yeah, so y'all live what you're saying.
Basically, the relatability is completely there.
You're very for sure, and your love songs we love
that you. Yeah yeah, yep, still yeah, you elevating, but
the toxic is still there.
It's definitely I'm telling somebody's story, you know, Oh somebody's hmm.
I'm trying. I'm gonna grow up one of these days.
That's all right, we love it of our life.
Toxic leado, Yeah, always something, it's so many. I could
go on and on like it's so many thinking of you,
always something, And it was you with Brutus and Caesar,
Oh Caesar and Brutus. That shit used to have me
thinking of this bitch.
It's like the ultimate like bros before Hose anthem and
like for me, the hose was like a metaphor for
anything like don't let nothing infiltrate you in your like
our sisterhood. And we done fell out like a hundred times.
So there's been times we get into it and I'll
be playing a ship like bro, that's.
Me and my best friend song though for real, like
you also have it.
Go ahead, but they kill each other. One of them
shoots the other one in the song.
That's that's a metaphor too, that's that you could come
back from that, not not.
You can come back from that, like not like real life, dad,
just we'm gonna get to that point, you know.
Yeah, so but it's like this bitch got me sucked up,
but yeah, we're not gonna let it get that far.
But it's like they killed each other, but It's like
he realized at the end, like damn, I killed my
nigga for this bitch or not that, Like why would
I let this bitch come in between what we got
going on?
So I appreciate these think pieces and thesises I have
about these songs because some of them was simple and
you know, my immature self, just especially thinking to You
and Ship. I mean I love that ship too to
write it, but.
Like past tence or you mean still.
Present, No, I'm saying back then when I wrote it,
it was that was what was going on. I did
the freestyle of thinking of you song, it was that
was what was going on, presentense. But no, I mean
I'm more so reflecting on it. You you mentioned always
something that's off the new album, and I mean it's
the same story, the same old song as they say,
like I think, uh, a lot of people's relationships look
look alike. You know, they take different forms, but we
all kind of go through the same same things.
Same ship.
Literally, I fuck with who I am off of the
new album too.
We're putting the video inspire I'll.
Be like, this is how niggas be telling when I
leave Alan.
Yeah, that was I was gonna say, I tried to
paint the whole picture though. You know you said I toxic.
But you know, sometimes we're guilty too, or we we
feel it. You know, we can from the male side,
we can get here where it hurts.
Too, because a man ain't gonna never let you know
that he fumbled for real. I mean he might, some might,
but it's like if you get him to admit that,
like he really fucked up with you, it's.
Like they do.
But then we be like you just saying that.
You like, what do you really mean it? Though?
Like what do I mean to hear it?
I like it strokes.
It's validation for sure, it's confirmation and validation, But I
don't know the man say, and it's just like so
like in that song, it's like, oh, you know, basically
saying you changed, You're not that same, Like you're not
a boy no more, you grow into a man. But
it's like, who, how can we actually trust that you
changed and you're actually different now?
Right?
The us on this couch and gave niggas plenty chances,
and then they come back and do the same old song,
same old thing.
I'll show you all a video before we do.
I'm excited to see it. I have my cowboy yeah,
cowboy head. I love it. And also another lyric that
you said that it's a favorite of mine.
I need a thick red hose that I can be
myself around and give me.
Head real slow.
Amen.
Amen, that's that was a bar y'all read. I ain't red.
I'm real, y'all red.
Definite.
Yeah, like if you're gonna turn red, I thought I
was yellow real slow.
And Okay, we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna.
Anyway a fucking off with mister or something like that.
Some research.
No, we really tapped in.
You always come to Like when I was younger, you
were always in the city.
I think my uncle's used to bring you down here.
So I'm like, hey, oh, helf literally literally that. I
don't know the name of that song, but you shot
that video here in.
Indy, didn't you.
That's when y'all was in Country Kitchen. Yeah, yeah, what's
the name of that song?
Do what I gotta do? What I gotta do part
of it up here? Yeah on Coarate in the garage
tour in twenty seventeen.
Yeah, the city fuck fuck with that street gospel. That
love hatelito all that we took it back.
Brother.
Yeah, it's always been a little over here.
I mean, this is definitely one of our top markets,
and you know, like for for the five twenty weekend,
it's just it's cool. It's a blessing like tapping in
with like y'all, y'all making it happen. Y'all got it,
got your thing going, and it's super cool thing.
And to really be tapping in.
Yeah, that's why we're so honored to have you on
the couch tonight early and.
We're bout to have some fun.
I'm so scared.
But speaking of which, how did you get cool with
the guys because you know them, it's our guys. How
did y'all link up?
I don't know exactly what it happened other than just uh,
you know, like mutual respect, mutual admiration. Like I was
checking out the pod, and I mean, I'm a sports guy.
I used to go by All Star when.
We know Cashville, Prince.
Research.
We really tapped in and I was I was a
fan of the platform and what they were building. And
I don't I don't actually know how to connection was made,
but I mean I guess that speaks to it being
organic because Trip and I came in and actually shared
our release date for step Brothers for Life.
I remember that on the a little over a year ago.
And we just kept in touch and you know, we
linked out of town and different events and just just
stayed in touch even to know just everything for a circle.
Mike been kind of mentoring me and my guys with
a podcast we just started a few months ago to
work in progress podcasts, and all the guys from the
Junk was like encouraging me to get into the space.
That's why I really appreciate what y'all doing. Like seeing
something go from like ground zero, seeing something the starving
scratch is like one of the biggest like joys or
highs that I can get. Is like a creative Like
I've been at the music thing for twenty years plus,
but like anything to start it from, you know, from scratch.
So we're in a similar space, kind of similar timeline
is what y'all doing. Me and my guys, So and
those guys been probably our biggest inspiration for the platform
we're building. It's kind of like a boys club kind
of thing. It's not sports trick, but it's some parallels there.
It was like homeboard type time. And then you know,
y'all got like the equal opposite thing going.
So y'all are friends because I swear when I like
watched some of y'all shows, I'm like, they all sound alike?
Are they don't all sounded like?
But their voices well, okay, I would say they voices
are so soothing.
Like watching y'all podcast, I just be like, yeah, sound.
But I swear they all sound the same, though they
sound different, but their voices are soothing.
But I wanted to ask you because it shoot.
Your cousin, Yeah, that's my first cousin.
Okay, And that nigga is a lawyer in a pilot.
Wow, he's a renaissance manything.
So that's your cousin and the other two guys. How
are you guys connected?
Uh, that's just my guys.
Like I think, like doing business kind of brought us
together and we just became homeboys along the way, Steven
and I throwing a bunch of concerts.
And done business in that regard, and.
Loos had he's all over the place where his ventures
and entrepreneurship. He had a recording studio and we partnered
on that for a while. And when I did the
Imposter Syndrome album, like we went in on the spot
at the Nashville Black Market Studio and kept that kept the.
Doors open there for about a year.
And you know, I feel like a lot of my
closest peers are people that I did business with. Like
they say, don't mix business with friendship and otherwise, but
I think good business can like foster the best friendships definitely,
because you should want your people to come up. So
if you can get money with somebody, like it should
be a no brainer that their best interests.
Well being is in mine.
But my cousin Shoot was one of losest teachers in
high school, and Jim and Shoot had their own bond
outside of us. So it's just kind of like full
so everybody got that, like, and how y'all know each other?
Well, we was born together one minute apart and then
just connected through the guys. These were like the first
females that were on.
Club five twenty.
I kind of justagled my way in here, you know,
lost the competition, came back, you know, one.
Of those failure stories. But man, these are my girls.
It's true.
Literally I lost, and they brought me in one time
and the audience loved me, and now look at me
now exactly.
So, y'all I met through the through the show.
But these are like the girls of the city, so
I've always known of them. So like, yeah, not, y'all
can get bitch.
She like.
Lot my name ring Bell. No, they don't know me
from the cannapign I know you.
I did.
Yeah even before this.
Yeah, they've been it girls. I kind of just you know,
fload it up. But these my girls now, like we
locked in. But I was watching y'all pie and it
was funny because shoot, he was saying, how this is
fucking hilarious. How if a plane was to crash, the
back of the plane would be more likely to survive.
So I was like, y'all know good, how I be.
Back there my bathroom. Everyone I said, yeah.
Fuck you, Chess, I'm gonna make it. I was like, damn,
that is crazy good.
We're good.
So keep booking our seats in the back of the plane.
We like it.
There they broke twenty brow twenty eight from thirty two
is where you can catch me.
And I'm gonna be surviving. But I'm still alive. I'm
still alive. Well, I was like, yeah, but I really
I like y'all podcasts.
Like I said, y'all voices are really soothing and it's
good to see black men in such a positive way.
But where do you get that though? From? Where do
you get that from? His cousin he's actually he's pilot
said that.
Okay, why do you have a question though, because you
said that the smoke detector battery chart that that going
off it warrants bad spirit.
Where did you get that from?
Man? I just it's just my belief, Okay.
That Southern niggas in the superstitions.
Yeah, I mean anything, I like somebody chines damn battery
because it's like.
I don't know, people get on me, like if I'm
buck on my.
Seatbelt and driving and to dependent, like if I've been
in the car a certain amount of time, Like I
can just ignore the ship. But that smoke detective ship,
like especially walking into somebody else's house, It's like, you
don't hear that. And we was we was doing like
a live stream and I'm sitting there like, bro, I
know you hear this ship.
You really got her to be on Live with the
with the Detector.
Ship it's in the picture of like a non old
battery today.
Today a lot. Yeah, that's what I say. That's been
a minute ago, but yeah, it takes something.
It was fake and you just brought it up. It
was fake. It was meant to be.
So I've never been to Nashville. The girls, y'all, just.
Y'all went about a few months ago. But y'all, y'all
was in the white part of Nashville. Yeah, unfortunately, I'm
actually really glad he's here because I had some bullship.
I was so pissed you could have went with me,
but you wanted to ship.
Yeah, so in my defense, I did want to go
downtown and let the let the kids see like downtown
and stuff. My friend pulled up, uh, pulled up on us.
She lived out there, and she was like, I don't
know why you came here. I'm just like, girl, I
don't know why you but you.
Said on the fifth, and that's Black History Music Month.
I got a concert with band play speaking of y'all,
I pull up June fifth. I'll make sure, y'all, I
will find some better food like that. Documentary highlights a
bunch of spots. Yeah, a lot of black owned spots
and some quality quality food. But yeah, June Field with
exiting in Nashville, not the country, you know, tour and yeah,
pull up on y'all got some pto.
Yeah, I got a bunch.
Got a bunch, can make some time. Yeah, because I
really want to.
The only place I ever went on the documentary is
Slim and Huskies. And I've seen all the different places.
I'm like, oh sure, I can't wait to go back.
So Charty's other places, Yeah for sure.
Yeah, Slim and Huskies. That was my guys.
I grew up with with all three of the co owners,
co founders. They were on a part a couple of
weeks ago too.
Oh nice, that's what's up. That's the piece of spot.
I went to Chicago Chicken and waffles before you had them.
It's Nashville, you gotta baby, I.
Mean, but are they really like but do you know
what I'm talking about?
Yeah, I heard of it. I don't think I've eaten
up before.
It kind of it's like people getting Nashville Hot Chicken
and other places other than Nashville. It's probably not gonna
be like I tried some Nashville Hot Chicken and Cali and.
Was mad as hell.
Like this is not this is a misrepresentation. So I'm
not saying that restaurant is not good. I'm just gonna
go to Chicago if i want some Chicago anything.
Right, If we pull up in Nashville, what's the spots
that we definitely.
Got to hit.
Princess Hot Chicken that's the original of the Nashville Hot
Chicken breakfast spot. I was saying, Ridian Street Cafe that's
starting East Nashville. One from edge Fish for a good
fish sandwich sounds like being Yeah.
For sure, I got on.
I can't wait to go back now.
I like Arnold's Country Kitchen for like a meeting two,
meeting three type of time. They've been like on like
Food Network quite a few times, and it's like family.
I'm trying to think, well, you try to slimmer huskies
for sure. For them, it's it's hell the spots.
I have a list.
Together for you, and we want to go to the club.
Yeah, we got to have the.
Party after because all I know wasnnk.
Nah, it's get deep. It's line dancing in the video, so.
You be doing it.
It's line dancing in the video.
You made a line dance for this time.
Nah, shout out my guy Justin Lee.
He's like a real deal line dance instructor. He did
the choreography for it. I'm I'm intruding in the line dancing.
I'm I had one too many of these and I'm
like falling out in the middle of the line dancing.
We feel you.
I got two left feet, but I'm gonna try.
But my guy can get You'll get y'all together. He
taught everybody at the video shoot.
It was. It was dope. It was like an all
female choreographer.
That's probably going crazy. I can't wait to see that.
I was gonna ask the girls, though, do.
Y'all like dancing ass niggas?
I do?
I do, And it'd be like they don't really dance here,
but like.
In other states and stuff, they be some dancing ass niggas,
Like move to them hips.
Boy, I see you, yeah, yeah, tip your hat, tip
your hats. Yeah.
But it's it's more than one Nashville.
You know. It's you said it was downtown you You're
way more likely to see that. But our club hip
hop urban clubs, it's probably exactly like y'all.
Nah, yeah, I went to the club too.
It was little I forget what it's called, but it
was like a glass club. It was like I went
to the local lounge too, but I don't remember.
What it was called.
All right, I got a question for you guys. So
I've seen this on Facebook. It says plot twist. I
ain't lose my man. I gained a girlfriend too. Now
with us laughing together, matching energy, stealing each other's clothes
and loving on the same man instead of cheating. I
told my man to bring home this other girlfriend. And
now we're taking pictures like this.
Where's the other girlfriend.
She's down on the bottom.
Oh, okay, that's probably the main bitch right there, down
up under the table.
I'm not being under the table, bro, y'all can think
that's the main bitch. Y'all gonna have to put me
up here, sitting on a chair. Yeah, she's sitting on
the side on the number two.
Times is hard?
Now?
Is this what we're doing?
Absolutely? I'm not going I can't do it. Just cheating
you adjusting your mic it's efficient.
I got a bitch. That got a bitch. I know
that's right.
Yeah, bro, I want to know who sits in the
front seat.
I swear I'm gonna be arguing. Y'all wants the front.
I swear I'm gonna call shotguns so quick.
Let both of them sit in the well.
I'm sending the ball.
That's then they're gonna be arguing over the back seat.
I'm gonna be like, but you ain't sitting with my man.
Get up here, let daddy lay. Yeah, y'all know I'm dumb.
Anyways, we're gonna talk this for me, Yo, what about
those titans.
A question for it?
Sounds great? I Uh, I don't know.
I'm worried.
The thing is, I could do it. I just feel
like my family gonna be like, you don't love yourself
no more?
Did he make you do this?
Like?
But I think that it's it makes sense. I think
it makes sense. It'll be fun to me from a
financial standpoint, or just from like a village, just having
that support within the home. Like, I'm just in such
a weird place in life with like dating and relationships.
I don't know if I just want to be a
full flace lesbon or just you know.
So I have the best of both worlds totally straight.
We share these niggas anyways, Kiki, Yeah.
She on me on your own time. I don't want
this bit.
Don't bring her in the house. You got to say,
but she could help you wash the dishes, That's what
I'm saying.
But she would feel like I think that she would
feel like my slave, and she's gonna be like, bitch, now.
What I think she would feel like my homegirl. I
heard them situations. They'd be like going to the nigga
like your favorite.
And then that's why we don't like.
We could jump this nigga together.
We don't imagine hearing rumbling in the next room.
Yeah, wouldn't be all domestic, No, because y'all probably gonna
be bumping.
I really like what he got. You fucked up, babe.
Let's go beat his ass. When y'all get to fighting,
you want.
Her, Let's go beat his ass.
We're not gonna fight.
We're not gonna fight, and if we did, I'll whipper.
That's why I was like being in the lesbian lea.
You got to give him a little some sweet fatigue beat.
I was gonna say, gotta you know you can walk?
Yeah, that's not a big cocky no.
No, I don't even want I like pettit bitches. Anyway,
So she's gonna be something I could toss some around.
Yeah, we don't know who.
That's why he treats her into getting him her.
I mean, it's just all about perspective. She could be
the leader of the pack, like, look at both of
my holes.
Behind me, Like, yeah, that's.
Look at my trophies behind that's give.
Your beneath me. I'm the main I'm sitting on.
You don't.
But also the main might just treat him better and
be like his home base and make him feel like
better than the better looking don't.
Look happy though, that's the why do you nobody?
They needed the number two abuse. The number two.
Them saved their relationship low. The number two say came
to say today my.
Niggat Iscey White Turtle, Nick Man, you got watching?
I don't know.
I mean, I'm on the side of like it might
be a controversial take, this is what we are doing anyway.
I kind of lean into the everybody's sharing everybody to
a certain extent. I think understanding is worth goal, but
I do think most people don't have the stomach for it.
It's like you said, like where you're at with day
right now? Like it sounds good until you really in
them trenches and it's like, you know, you gotta share
or you you know, divide your time, your interest.
And I don't know.
I think cohabitating with with two women sounds.
Intense, but just think about it, because the fun of
it would be like, Okay, if one is unavailable, the
other one is, but then they period is gonna sink
and ship. So it's just like not both of y'all
getting on my damn nerves.
But we're talking like living like real relationship.
This house better be spotless. It's two women in here.
Dinner better be made promptly. I want snacks. I want
to sandwich at three in the morning.
I might need to be the men with two women.
We split, but we could split that word. Yeah, it's
supposed to. Everybody is supposed to, you know, put in
their own work. So that's why Polygon could be like Barb,
I made the sandwich friend No, just for example.
Oh maybe, but first I could be like Barb, night,
you make it tonight.
Yeah, I'm saying it sounds it's fine. Twenty somewhere.
I would take a shutt talk to me after the
episode without your twin. Okay, Wall have fun with that,
I ain't I'd be jealous.
You said you like sports, right, so what sport do
you think that you could go pro in?
It's over with?
It's over?
Is you an o G now something like that?
I mean, I was basketball is kind of my thing
growing up. I played football when I was really young,
but I don't think I looked at it like going pro.
Like shit, probably twelve years old, you had people at
basketball camps telling you like, you're.
Not going pro?
Oh damn?
Really?
I mean the odds, I guess it's four hundred and
fifty NBA players, but I mean that's not the only
way to go pro. So I do kind of feel
like they was kind of stunning our growth for shipping
on our dreams, telling us because I had like two
teammates on my high school team that played pro ball,
so it wasn't as far away as like one might
have thought.
Right it would have been basketball.
I guess, is your play baseball?
Never? I'll never played never.
Okay, speaking of basketball. So they always in the comments,
they be calling us Brian Wade bosh, they be calling
us the twenty seventeen Warriors and stuff like if you
could like compare you if you compare it could compare
you and Dine Trip to Likenba terms who what duo
do you feel like best described?
Y'all?
Uh shit, I think Trip as far as it is
Pipping and Jordan's Oh, I think Cope and Shacks a
good one.
I mean, I'll be humble.
No, I don't think nobody can fuck with us like
that's just my that's my takeod So whoever whoever's at
the top of the top in times of tandems to
you know, for y'all sakes, it's three parts, it's a
trio kind of thing. But whoever you will put it
at the top of those lists is who I would
compare us to, if that's even worth doing. But yeah,
I just think like me and Bro. He just dropped
the album to Day with Eddie Volero called Armageddon.
I'm on there.
I think track six shut out the Crag. But yeah,
I would say I will probably go Penny and Shack
because that's just my time favorite. But they didn't have
the accolades that you know, to support it, So I
guess Kobe and Shack, Jordan and Pippen would be the
best comparison.
Like what's our big three come on.
That's right, but why are we talking like sports and athleticism.
I see you been in these running clubs and I
it's just on all on my algorithm. It was saying that,
like the running clubs is the new spots to meet
the love of your life.
Okay, the running part of it.
I just for the first time ran with a running
club like a week ago.
So I've been running. I've been running in races.
The run clubs are like actual clubs and shout out
to six Run five. I joined one of their open
runs they do, like some weekly things. Before that, I
went to a block party they had.
It was like after the.
Half marathon that we had in April in Nashville, and
it was just dope to see like so many black
people in a traditionally like white part of town on
the same type of time because it was I want
to say it was like thirty thousand people that ran
in the half marathon or whatnot, but like they had
basically a block party right in front of the Lulu
limits store in the Gults, which is super like commercial,
so I like that, and it was just so many
of us out there just on some like cool like
kicking it. I mean, the race was like six in
the morning, so the block party was probably like eight
nine am to like twelve.
It was just such a different vibe. So many of
us out there.
People just fit kicking it, smiling like and so I
tapped in a little farther with their club from there,
and I see the same like memes and all those things.
I don't know, I don't have that experience. I've been running.
That's like kind of probably my biggest hobby or just
something that I enjoyed doing. But the club part, like
we're trying to start something kind of parallel to it
with the part because all of us run together and
those races we've been doing like one five k a
month this whole year.
Club twenty you already to run look at them.
Sorry, that is just so you just have like a
new pr like like with the five k y'all did
and what April.
Yeah, well, the last I think the last three competitive
verses I ran in I said, I set a PR
like each time.
So and it cuts off.
Running is so hard, It's so hard.
Did you ever run track?
So?
And did you pick up like you just picked running
up like or you always been fit and you just
kind of got into me.
I was I was athletic, but running was really never
my thing. It was I picked it up around the
time that my daughter was born.
I got seven year old, and.
Around the time when she was a new born, it
was like kind of my like stress relief just to
get out the house from screaming, screaming new born baby.
Like I go, you know, run around the block and
just keep myself active. And by the time she started walking,
was like when COVID hit and so it wasn't shit
open and so.
That was like kind of you know, two bars of
one stone.
It was kind of the only thing I could do
at the time and also helped me like clear my mind.
And I just kind of stuck with it from there.
I mean, she started walking, and I was like I
would be out of breath and ship picking up chasing
around the house because she started running when she started walking,
and I'm like, damn, I need to get in better shape.
So started taking the more serious and just fitness journey
at large. I got a trainer and was I was
showing a book and I'm just I just feel like
I'm gonna be slim forever. The party and I want
to be around for my kids, and was just about
that as much as anything.
Do you be feeling like the runners high?
They for sure?
I only felt that ship one time you be running, No,
I said, I felt it one time, like a random
hot Like I was like, I ran three miles. That
was the longest I ever ran and without stopping right
and I was just running and I didn't feel no pain,
and it like kind of felt good.
And I was like, is this the runners how they
be talking about?
And I ain't felty sense, I mean, so I just
seen all like the memes and stuff about finding the
men at the running club.
That's the only reason I'm interested. And I'm just like,
I don't think I'm that comedic. I don't want to
find him in the regular club.
Let's try it.
I can't run, you can, you can? You can do anything.
You Yeah, run your own.
Race, gonna get her out perfect.
Welcome you'll running club, and I'm coming.
When you first started running, y'all ask your ass gonna
be slapping itself, and it's gonna be hurting until you
until you get used to it, It's gonna be hurt.
I've never experienced that, never moved around that much.
To know we can do it.
Come down tomorrow, We're gonna go for a nice brisk power.
Walk just out the thee of what's slapping.
The okay tomorrow. What we're doing.
We're racing. Oh, We're getting in the field parawalk all day.
I'm bullshit.
I mean, people walk in the five k's and the races.
I'm gonna be with the.
Making myself not stop. I ain't stopping.
So is that a requirement for a woman to be
like on her fitness journey for you?
I mean I prefer some toned and fit and you know,
well proportioned and all that. I mean, I think health
as well, So you don't got to be a fitness
nut or whatever.
But it's attractive.
I mean I think it all run together like mind, body,
So like I think taking care of yourself is you know,
I've interact with people that like teach me shit about
like wellness overall about your dyet and like things I
ain't knowing about it.
She's drinking water now and I do pilates twice a week,
keep it tight.
But yeah, that's I mean, that's definitely attractive. It ain't
a requirement. But if you're on the opposite in and
you just eating bad and causual title.
And you know.
It's like a disconnection if you discourage it or you
frown on it. I ain't working with that, Like who
ain't trying to better theyself? That's how one of y'all like, man,
black people make fun of people for anything they do.
Yeah, they was mad on one of my electrolys, Like
we weren't mad in real life.
We imagine I was.
We was drunk.
It's like in practice, I'm like, damn, because I want
to drink a body armor, Like.
What's what's the problem?
We apologize.
I don't accept it. Got a lot of sugar, it
was zero sugar water. I eat this lemon boar man.
I tried to put twice. That ship is intense.
I like it though, like how you were saying, like
running out of core, running like just you know you're
stress and all that. That hot mat is like crazy.
It's ninety degrees in there. You're just dripping sweat. It's dark.
I sweat.
It was like the infrared, but the hot.
Yeah, it's like ninety degrees in your I don't know
how they heat it if it's infrared, if it's the
thermbstat they're broken, this motherfucker.
But it's just like it'd be hot.
And I'm not a person that sweats like that, but
I was like dripping on the mat. I'm like, oh, yeah,
let's go.
I like it. I really enjoy it. I need to
get more than twice a week.
When you get in a groove, it do make you
want to keep going. But when you follow off, you
just be like next week Wednesday.
M Oh, you said you got one kid, but you
said you wanted three, so you're still working on it.
He said he wanted three in the middle of the weeks.
Oh yeah, that's so one and done.
Toxic laid out.
A little bit some twin vibes. Lord, you are no.
I mean yeah, I don't know if I'm doing or not.
Would be like, we don't know either, you don't.
I mean I said that before I had one, So
you know, fatherhood is like a real thing.
Yeah, got children, Yep, welcome to the hood.
We got a lot of daves looking be here. Yeah, Oh, we're.
Actually the thirty fourth rown pick is what be here
called us?
Third track means that means our baby daddy's already having Mama's.
Don't don't mean, don't do us here? Let him explain.
They can't hear him anyways, let him talk to Lido
D say ninety nine p. One hundred ninety nine.
Still still hope, I'm not no fourth and fifth pick
I'm the first?
Mama?
What she is he talking about it?
I am too well?
I wanted halfway, yeah, yes, one of her.
For the first I got to I'm not like fifth.
I think I think I'm third. I don't know if
I'm fourth. It's still right, right, jury is still out
on that baby.
Were there.
Still went viral calling us the third and fourth?
Anyways, anyways, anyways, anyways, we all want to know. So
when did you fall in love with hip hop? I'm
gonna say.
That's a real question.
Yeah, but like, did you did you know that you
always wanted to be like a rap artist? Saying who
inspires you?
Potty?
No, I ain't always know when the first part when
I fell in love with hip hop?
I would say somewhere between, like, uh, I can remember
the first songs that kind of I guess gave me
that feeling would have been like nothing but a g thing.
It was doctor dry snoop. Today was a good day.
Ice Cube that that actually might have been the one,
because I can remember like the I Brother song that
He's sample coming on the radio and I like cut
the radio up and it wasn't ice Cube when I
was mad as her, like I ain't understand what the
sample was or I ain't know the old songs A
kid and don't that song and it was like a
song Minister Society soundtrack that was like I think it
was a straight up minute, like he was telling the
story from the movie, and I just I had seen
the movie, so I understood.
The song so well.
I was like, man, that's that's cold that he told
that story in rap form, like today was a good day,
like he told like a day in the life of
somebody in the hood, like nothing but a g thing,
Like even though it's cali.
It like made sense that like this how they live.
And it looked how my big cousins and uncles was
rocking at the time, So it was kind of that
like art Imitate's life thing.
It drew me in as far as me wanting to
be a rapper and all that. That was that kind
of way.
Later, I was probably in high school and I actually
wanted to make beats. First, I wanted to be the
many fresh of the clique. I mean it was no
limit and then cash money and all that was probably
what he was looking up to, you know, being from
the South. But I never really wanted to be the rapper.
I was trying to make beats, and my beasts was
sorry as hell, but I was writing something. There beat
I made and my partners dad was rapping was I
was like, get on this song with us, and you know,
the first few songs, I got so much more feedback
from the raps.
That is just I guess some confidence came with it.
I set them beats to the side and just locked in.
By then, I was I was probably infatuated with like
the culture of it than I that and and I
wanted what it seemed like I came with it, and
I just you know, it was basketball and the gravity
of that, Like I might could go to college and playboy,
but shit, I really think I could do something with this.
With this music thing, you know, just kind of turned
into a real thing. I graduated in high school and
probably like two years later, I was signing had a
record deal.
That's dope.
Went from there, are you free?
Style?
I can I mean, I'm not saying like sat.
I definitely what I was like, I ain't drunk enough
to do that.
I have seen you talk about with Cassidy.
I was like going back and forth, wrapping in like
the full circle moment that y'all had had or whatever.
So I'm like, can he freestyle? I'm always super impressed
by people that can freestyle.
So yeah, it's I mean, I think that's a that's
like a whole separate skill all his own, like, and
I think that was some some fun ship, some ship
we used to do. Like I mean, there's people that
I think are very very good at it, and that's
like cool, but I'm I'm more like into the artistry
of it, like although you can come, Like I said,
the thinking that you song was pretty much the freestyle
like I took from the beat. It was like, I
don't want to I don't want make a love song.
I want to go to the opposite direction. And I
kind of freestyled that which I heard other than but
that still was like a thought of like, I'm not
gonna go this direction. I'm gonna like So I guess
technically that's writing or whatever, but I think as far
as it's just more value to me putting my thoughts
to it and put my pen or work and then
actually freestyling. But it's people that probably freestyle better than
they write, you know.
That's I think it's interesting that you said that you
were like drawn to the artists with the storytelling because
I think you like have a knack for storytelling and
just relatability, relatability in general, and I gotta inspire.
I was just gonna say, do you think that that's
maybe why you are like exploring potting now, like doing
a podcast and everything, because I feel like, you know,
podcast that's like a former artistry as well.
You know, you're being vulnerable, you're telling your story.
Yeah, I think storytelling is part of what what drew
me to it Like that was that was kind of
the premise of it. We wanted to tell black Nashville story.
We want to tell stories that haven't been told, and like,
who better to tell our own stories than us. There's
a lot of times when you let other people tell
your story for you. So yeah, that that's for sure
is a.
Part of it.
I think I'm a writer first more than anything, so
I'm trying to use this space to push me in
a direction of be able to to tell my story
and like text form and book form, Like that's the
next venture I want to get into, is putting my
story together as like a memoir or something that people
can hold, can have carry it with them. So I
think the pot these these vulnerable conversations that we have
is like one it's almost like a group therapy.
Session that we get to have.
We love, we love, yeah, and the one is so.
It's a mix of that, the storytelling part and just
it's kind of like healthy, we need balance and also
like I think as a hip hop artist, I've give
them more than half of my life to this shit,
and it's like it's a lot of shit that's not
that I don't think is cool.
That's like made to be cool that I just outgrown.
And I'm like, man, it's shurean cool. Like people need
to be taught, like you can do something else, Like
you don't have to be you don't have to try
to be the man. You know what I'm saying.
You can survive being part of a whole, you know,
the team building aspect, Like far it's cool. Somebody might
think I am as the rapper on the pot it's
like this nigga is a poly lawyer, got this and
that going on this nigga four and five businesses, Like
I think they're as cool as y'all probably think I am, right,
And so it's like sharing that space and telling those
stories is like important.
Like we gotta highlight more than just the bells and whistles.
The what the algorithm tells us to, like right, like
and the versatility, even the versatility of not just like
your podcast mates, but also like just the versatility of
like not the country you know, and just like stepping
out into a different space musically within your artistry and
just exposing like your fans, two different a whole different
genre of really like that's versatility in itself as well.
I had a surface level asked question. Y'all just went
real deep and and great, and I appreciate that because
but I have seen you say, like the not the
country you know? Are you thinking?
Go ahead?
And then it was.
Because you know obviously when you think of like country,
you think of like, you know, the regular country, so yeah,
and then you like yeah, so we just on there
were just on their wrapping sounding like ourselves, and I'm like,
I know that's right. You know, like when you think
of country, you think of like one thing and then
it's just like hold on. But and you was, like
I've seen on one interview you was like, it's country
because of where we're from, and it's like we can't
be forgotten.
Like I mean, a lot of country music artists aren't
even from Nashville. Like one of the most talented artists
I met in the last year really exploring that space
was from Canada, and like I'm not saying that he's
cosplaying or faking or anything, but it was like I
was impressed, and how will he sounds like all.
The country artists that y'all might have heard of. And
I was like, damn, that's that's cool. That's interesting.
It's just like the okay, think about like it's just
Elbow or what's his name, Damse and whatever doing on
snow five Like they're from England and can play.
Hood niggas americanized like and they do it well.
It's like nobody complaining about it, like they doing what
they're supposed to do. But Okay, a better example. The
other dude that's on Snowfire that was Stisy from the Wood.
He's from there, like it doesn't get much realer than
somebody that from the turff, like really damn even acting.
And so that's that's really what I'm saying, is like,
I mean, you can't invalidate like this, this is this
ain't that, but this is like authentically, like this is.
As Nashville as it gets. It's just not a postcard
that you used to get.
I like it. It's a statement.
When y'are talking about country, I'm just thinking the cowboys,
And it just made me think I wanted to ask
the girls about this too, Like Leo, why do you
think that women have always been crazy about bad boys?
Oh? Yeah, because you got that sound bad for you?
Good question, because you know you like to play that.
No, that was that was that was autobiographical.
Yeah, that was bad boys good.
For years, women have loved bad boys.
I think I think it goes both boys, Like I
think we we always want what we can't have, We
always want what we shouldn't have.
Like I know, I grew up like that.
If somebody told me like, don't do that, I'm that
much more curious about it. I want to figure out why,
you know, I'm you know, I want to explore I
want to figure it out, and sometimes it's like the
lure of stuff. That's really probably my only explanation is
bad for you something, It's like ship. It's just kind
of just being honest, like I ain't, I ain't perfect.
I ain't I'm not probably your prototype whatever, but I
ain't the worst.
Either, you know.
So that's real. That's how I feel. For y'allladies, Why
do you think that women want bad bad boys with you?
Girl?
Why we gotta start with me because you for being
fruit forbidden fruit?
Is it a forbidden thing or is it like a
comfort Well maybe because I'm ghetto I'm from like maybe
it's just like a comfort thing.
I'm not ghetto, I'm not ghetto. Let me not say that.
It's not that I'm ghetto. I was raising, I was
raising the hood and it was just like a comfort thing.
So like even if I want a reformed, you know,
bad guy, I still want that to be there, you know.
Like I don't know, I don't know.
Why is it because it's forbidden?
Is it?
Like?
Nah, I don't think you just like.
A square nigga can't really handle me, for I don't.
Like, shut the fuck up.
We're not doing that today.
You say, what about for you try? I don't like
bad boys, forbidden fruit just with y'all, ye forbidden. It's
just because it's just like.
I don't know, it's just who I don't want to
straight up and down, like I don't know.
I need a masculine figure, somebody who's possibly maybe I
need someone territorial. I need someone who stand on business because.
I will.
Y'all know, I'm like the Nigga the crew, Like I'm
the miss Nigga, So you gotta be more niggerish than me,
I hear you.
Oh my gosh, I mean I think it's words is worse.
He's so philosophical.
I'm saying that like no two days. I like, no,
no two people. Like somebody might can take that and
it be a term of endearment. Somebody might be offended
by it, like you know what I'm saying from a
woman's stand, Okay, okay, Like yeah, you gotta kind of
know who and what you're dealing with, because it, for
show could be offensive on one end, and then it's
it's just it's just worse. It's just casual. Like you know,
I was talking to somebody who was like man, I
don't think it's crazy to curse when I pray kind
of thing, like you know, I'm.
A belief that like God knows my heart.
I'm like I'm it's just how I express myself like
and the saying could be saying in relationships like you
know what, I'm not calling you like, I'm not putting
you down, calling you a female dog. And the rocketry
since it's possessive in the sense like you mind, like
I call.
You mind, whatever, my boob, my babe, my girl. Somebody
can say I'm not a girl a woman, you know so.
But at the same time, like I said, you gotta
know where they are with it, and just probably.
Read THEO said I'm a pimp to a hoe and
a dog to a bitch.
To a woman.
Yeah, so there we go.
Yeah, so we didn't even do words on rocks or
that we didn't do words on the rocks. You want
to do words on the rocks?
Oh, well, did you have the words on rocks?
Words on the rocks is growing hard, baby, Words from
the blocks, that's what we're talking about.
That's what we're talking about.
Oh no, yeah, we do got words words from the
block today and it is you know, in honor of
Jermaine E.
Then I ain't gonna hold you. That was a fire
ass play on words. I heard you say it in
the album.
I'm like, that's cute because your real name is Jermaine. Okay,
obviously it's Hawaiians with a long oh. But okay, we
do our homework a little bit. Did y'all see do
y'all know his middle name already?
He wants his middle name.
I'm not trying to be I'm not trying to be
fed however, I'm just trying
to see something.
Do y'all know his middle name yet? I didn't know
your middle name?
If I say that his middle name is a common
ass middle name for when black moms have a little boy,
I bet you'll can get I guess it's no, it's
not Lamart, Lamar nod one girl, Deonta.
Malis what is Anthony? You're getting close? No, Antonio, let start.
Give a slitty y'all.
Got nothing else. It's not that though. It's not even okay.
So if I tell y'all start with Ed and y'all
still can't get it. Eric, But it's a common that's
a first name. Yes it is, okay, well anyway, and honor.
It is.
I can't even I'm not on go.
You can't google me.
So we so we're gonna.
We're gonna hord that.
Man.
He got a normal middle name though, Yeah, that's fine,
is like eccentric.
I want to hear it is centric.
Long, It's really Freddie. Why are you ashamed of it?
I'm not. I just don't like to share.
I'm not good what that means. It means like white
snow or something white snow.
No, no, no.
My first name means God's gracious gifts. It also means
snowy white hills.
However, yes, God gracious.
Guess why I think my daughter's name and it means
a gift from God.
I love that.
Come look, I'm not going to expose her next her
maybe off camera, but okay, work you said what she's.
On a couple of my albums. That ain't really what.
I love that, but yeah that Our words from the
block is grind Hard. Obviously the name of your label
and your brand. So initially at the beginning of the episode,
we were going to say, tell us about what that
means to you and why you went with that.
It's from the block, Like you said, it's starting in
East Nashville, and it's been given more life and more
of a meaning as an acronym, given reality inspired new
direction towards having a real dream. But originally it was like,
you know, we were trying to come up, We was
trying to get off the block. It was, you know,
doing all kinds of things, just trying to make it
happen and kind of know about that into this music thing. Otherwise,
like even you mentioned Great Goose, them same guys that
was around me day one.
You know, I got ed Jean E. Bell Roy, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Like you know, I could go on, but like the
Great Goose song was like an inside joke and I
don't even think we'll name the company by then, but.
It's just.
Grindard was like a real thing, like we was kind
of the space was like we would sell anything if
if it meant profit or men making some money, and
so like the dream part of it was like we
can do that, then we can shift the energy into
this into this music thing and try to turn in
something else. It actually start on my guy Jean selling
some T shirts that said ground Hard and then we
put out a mix type and you know, from that
that first type, which was like I think the beginning
of two thousand and six, it just made sense to
brand it. And now you know, we're taking it nationwide
and beyond, I mean, I guess globally take global. Yeah,
but you know that's it's really it's funny. I say
words from luck because it started on block period.
I love the.
Growth, I love the expansion and the longevity in it.
You can't really hear you, Oh shot, Sorry, no, I
was saying I love it. I love the like longevity
in it and how it's grown into because you can
come up with something like years ago and you might
not identify with that anymore. You know, once you like
grown and matured a little bit, and it's very like
universal relatable at all, you know, times.
In your life for sure, like I mean, the biggest
joy or the biggest reward I can say from out
it is like seeing people embrace it as a motto,
as a mantra. I've I've probably met hundreds of people
with ground Hard in the flesh, you know, tattoos and others,
the actual logo or just you know, in whatever sense
and it's just for it to connect with them and
people they're probably not from the sandwalk with life that
we came from, and it's just like, damn, this shit
is bigger than bigger than I could have ever like
thought or dreamed or imagine. I mean, that's the kind
of thing that keep me going, keep me at it,
trying to figure out a way to pivot and do
more with it.
And I just love that, like as a mantra and
as like a motto, it's timeless and it can grow
with you. Like I've seen an interview one time where
you was like, the streets is more of a mentality
than like a physical place, and you kind of like
outgrew it a little bit and you have like a
business mentality and a dad mental like you know, and
obviously it's just like grind hard transcends just that street
like where it originated from.
You could take that with you anywhere. That mentality.
Yeah, that's a lifestyle bring.
I mean, uh, the fitness journey, the all of that,
like at all the plus like whatever you're doing, like
go hard at it, like day to day, if you're
going to clocking in, if you're working for yourself, you're
working for.
Whoever, like, got no job. Grind hard, baby, grind hard, hard, harder.
That's why I look, I'm so glad that you're on
this couch with us tonight.
For sure.
We really appreciate you.
We do.
You're on tour right now, you said, the next stop
is Nashville Memphis.
Mephis twenty ninth, and Nashville June fifth.
Okay, in Dallas June thirteen, and Louisville, Kentucky July third.
But we're here for the five twenty day first.
Yeah, yeah, we're turning up. We want to thank you
so much for coming out and being with us today.
We know that you are team five twenty And if
you could shout out your platforms for.
Anybody that might be living up under a rock.
Where can we find dot com? That's a shortcut.
You can find the tour dates, ticket links, the music merchandise,
whatever you know. The podcast Working Progress Podcasts is on
YouTube and everywhere the podcasts are accessible.
You can find me here anytime. Am in time period
with the.
Fans with the five to old see.
Them June fifth. We're gonna hold them to that.
In a mix.
I love Naville so much.
Yeah, I've never been.
I can't wait to girl, you're gonna have a ball.
I can't wait.
That's the one who would sleep last time, but we
ain't gonna time.
I was in sleep. That wasn't last time, the last time,
you know, talking about.
And shout out your album before these twins start arguing
last time I was about to be her friend up.
But okay, come on, we.
Got not the country you know, not the country you know.
Start it those by five coming song.