Flower Farming, Forsythia, and Fabulous Container Design Tips with Renee Clermont

Hello, my friends across the fruited and Rooted plane. Coming to you from
proven winners Color Choice Shrubs Studio A. It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show
with Stacy Hervella me, Rick weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson Stacy.
Today we talk about the cut flower gardening trend, or some people will
call it flower farming. Don't let that scare you off, because you don't
need a lot of space to grow some fresh cut flowers in your landscape.
Stacy, this is a trend that I think is really rooted in the COVID
pandemic when we were at home and people started growing some of these cut flowers
to have fresh flowers in the house. And this is a trend that continues.
You know, it's a trend that is absolutely firmly entrenched. And it's
not just homeowners in the nursery industry. We're seeing tons and tons of new
flower farmers all across North America coming on, you know, starting their own
flower farms. I think it actually goes back to a single Instagram user,
Florette Flowers, so she owns a beautiful flower farm. I believe it's out
in Washington State, and she started this Instagram account of sort of like depicting
the glamorous part of flower farming. I'm sure there's some not so glamorous parts
that you don't see on her Instagram feed. And I think that it just
sort of really clicked for people that you know, cut flowers are wonderful and
you can go buy them, but there is something so luxurious about having them
right in your own backyard for you to take whenever you want, to combine
however you want, and just the creativity there, I think has just been
an absolute game changer for people. Yeah, and easy to do, and
there are so many different types of cut flowers that you can grow little pockets
throughout your landscape or your yard where you can cut them and come again.
Whether it's Zenia's Gomphrena, hydrangeas roses, whatever it may be, it's certainly
a trend that is taking off. And yes, you're right, worldwide you'll
see these pick your own flower gardens. And you know, I just came
from the Netherlands and I saw a lot of bouquets and stores of pony tulips.
Now I love peone tulips. They are not paeones. They're tulips,
but the flowers look like pones. That's a trend that we're seeing here in
the United States as well as in Europe. It's just the prices there were
fabulous, So I mean, I wished I could have brought a whole bunch
of them home with it, you know. And I have found that in
other places around the world where I've traveled too, and it comes down to
simple supply and demand. Cut flowers are such an integral part of life,
particularly in Europe. People buy them all the time. Like they would go
to the store and buy, you know, bread or lettuce for a salad,
they also pick up a bouquet of cut flowers or just part of their
life. And we don't really have that so much in the US. And
you know, even though I used to live in the city where you know,
every corner bodega had a big thing of flowers out there. When we
don't have that demand, that supply is still going to be restricted and the
prices are going to be high. When there's high, we're demand for the
flowers and then the prices go down. So we kind of did it to
ourselves. But until we're out of that growing your own cut flowers is a
great solution. And you know, one thing, I think it's really interesting,
Once you, as a gardener, start to cut from your garden,
everything becomes a potential cut flower. Yeah. You know, we're going to
talk about lists of some of our favorites and some of the easy things that
to grow. But you know, I find that once I go out there
and I find something to base a bouquet around, I start looking, well,
you know, it'd actually like something that looks like this, And I'm
looking at, you know, the maple tree, and I'm looking at some
weeds, and you know, anything that I find growing around my yard suddenly
becomes fair game. And it really just changes the way you think about what's
growing in your yard. Yeah, cut flowers, You're right, Stacy,
can be annuals, perennials, herbs, flowering shrubs, bulb plants, tropical
plants, even vegetable plants. Sure skies the limit with it. And why
shouldn't we be able to enjoy them inside our house the same way we enjoy
them enjoy them outside. And you know, we talk a lot on this
show about hydranges. Hydranges are a natural They sure are cut flower who can
resist, especially since sometimes when hydrangees are in bloom, depending on where you
live in the weather you're having, it might be too hot to really sit
outside and enjoy your hydrangea, so you need to bring some indoors. And
you know, hydranges do you make excellent cut flowers. The panicle and smooth
hydranges you can pretty much cut practically as much as you want. The big
leaf hydrangeas of course that blew on old wood. Sometimes you might want to
show a little bit restraint with those, just so you're not pruning out too
much, which could impact your flower for next year. But on the other
hand, if that's what you want, it's your plant. You can do
whenever you want. You're you're the boss of your own garden, which is
you know, one of the things I love about gardening, Oh me too,
And I love cut flowers or fresh flowers. So I wrote a little
limerick, just a real short limerick for Limerick season, Limerick season, limb
a rick for Stacy and Adrian, for our listeners and our viewers. Here
you go, a little cut flower pros fresh flowers my thing. I suppose
their beauty is my oasis replenished on a vase to vase basis, you could
say, I garden with my nose. Oh, I love it. Thank
you? Yeah, I mean, isn't it great to have? Do you
say vase or vas? I say vase? Thank you? So do I
don't have anything that costs as much as a vase. I see it's either
a vase or vas, contingent on the cost. Probably. Yeah, I
would agree with you, well, said Stacy. But I love a vase
of flowers in the bathroom or the kitchen or dining area or whatever. It's
just a great thing to do. Now, when you go out there and
you cut your flowers, whether they're daisies or roses or whatever, they may
be, probably a good idea to do it in the cool of the day
morning or late evening and get them right into water if you can, if
you can't. If this is one of those do as I say and not
as I do kind of situations, because rarely do I wake up first thing
in the morning and go, oh, I'm going to make a lovely arrangement
for dinner tonight. It's more like, oh, I got about five minutes
before the water boils for dinner. Guess I'll go cut a few things and
make an arrangement for the table. But that's the beauty of it. It's
impulsive, yes, but if you can cut in the morning, that is
a good idea, especially at the height of summer, because you know,
the sun starts to take a toll, things start to welt, and in
the morning everything is fresh and fully hydrated, and so your flowers, of
course will last longer. But I would never let that stop you. You
know, in gardening, there's a lot of things that we say this is
the best practice, or this is what we recommend, but that doesn't I
often tell people we garden in the real world, not this ideal world,
and sometimes that's by the seat of your plants, and that's okay. Now,
probably a good idea to pluck off some of the foliage, keep the
foliage out of the water, obviously fresh water. And in many cases when
we clip these flowers in our garden, just like with container gardening, we're
thinking focal or thriller, filler spiller, or something along that line. But
you really don't have to make it that complicated. If you were just to
clip some flowers, sometimes just one type of flower thrown into a vase is
beautiful, yeah, and very simple. It doesn't need to be complex.
And you know, if you are interested in cut flowers, Instagram is a
great place to get some inspiration. You know, you can just search cut
flowers and you're in a c stuff there that I think is very aspirational,
that you know is being made by professional florists or people who are just extremely
talented at arranging flowers. But everyone has that creativity, in that ability in
themselves, so you know, certainly take that as inspiration, but don't let
it hamper you and say, oh, mine will never look as good as
so and so's or you know whatever. It can be as simple as just
a single flower if you have the right vase. And not all my arrangements
look great, but I enjoy making them and looking at them. Also.
I used to participate in a cut flower arranging contest. You had five minutes
to put the arrangement together, and I would compete against others and you'd be
amazed how intimidating it is for some people to be facing that vase and trying
to put an arrangement together. And I agree with you, just you know,
think natural and have some fun with it. Yeah, definitely, that's
what I do, all right. So Zenia's are a great one, Gomprina,
Daisies, Heliopsis, aliens cosmos of course, rock and salvia or perennial
salvia, lavender. Do you have a favorite you like to cut? For
lavender? No, any kind of flower to cut and put in a vase.
Well, at the moment, I'd say daffodils. And you know what
I daffodils are so great in the garden, of course, but they're great
indoors. And so what I usually find is like some daffodils that are blooming,
like facing my neighbor's yard or you know, in some part of the
yard where I don't go very often, and I cut those and bring them
in. But you know, there's I think daffodils are so wonderful because they're
such a great like they're your first real cut flower of season, you know.
But yeah, during the season, I pretty much anything is fair game.
It just it really depends I've used. I use a lot of alliums.
Of course, I've used oregano flowers. Yeah, yeah, sure.
He's a nice little dinner table arrangement. Well, and of course let's not
limit ourselves again Flowering Shrubs, Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs. Stacy has a
wonderful flowering shrub coming up in Plants on Trial. And with some of these
woody shrubs, Stacy, we can force them into bloom early in the season
in the house. Yeah, get a little sneak peak of spring. Love
that love it. So, Plants on Trial is coming up next. Don't
miss it. The plant that Stacy will share with us. Of course you
could use for your cut flower garden or just enjoy in your landscape. That's
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It's the time of the show where we put a plant on trial, which
is to say, we're going to talk about one of the three hundred and
twenty plus proven winners Color Choice Shrubs and you get to decide if you were
going to add it to your garden. Now, every time we put a
plan on Trial, I think about what does Rick want to talk about in
the first segment of the show, and I try to start it in.
You know, i'd like to have I like things to be cohesive, and
usually I can find some tie in somehow it might be a little bit round
about. But today's was easy, okay, because today's Plans on Trial is
showoff for Scythia. What a beauty, isn't it. And you know,
so it's it's late April here in Michigan, the end of April in fact,
and so I know we have listeners from all over the country and in
fact, all over the world, which we're going to find out a little
bit about in our next segment. But so I know a lot of our
listeners are like for Scythia, that was a month ago, you guys talking
about. But here in West Michigan, for Scythia is at its peak.
And it never fails to amaze me every single year how the whole world just
explodes in yellow at this time of year because for Cythia is such a nondescript
plant. The rest of the year, it just kind of sits there do
when it's thing not looking bad, not looking too exciting, just green and
living drunk, which is cool. You know that's better than not living and
not green. Good point. But you really realize how widespread for Cythia is
at this time. You can now drive down a single road through a single
neighborhood that is just not exploding and yellow, and it's such a joyous thing.
I mean, I just I really love that we get this reminder of
how much for Sythia is out there. And I also, of course it
makes a great cut flower. Bright yellow, puts a smile on your face
every time you see it means winter is over. Yeah, I saw it
driving up here to the studio today here at proven Winner's color choice shrubs.
It put us on fash Yeah, yeah, you can't miss it. It's
very bright. And what I love about using for Scythia as a cut flower
for sal it's very easy to arrange. It pairs beautifully with daffodils or any
other spring bulbs that you have in your yard. And you know, we're
talking a little bit about when hydrange is bloom and cutting hydrangeas and how sometimes
with big leaf hydrangeas, hydrangeas of bloom on old wood, you might want
to be a little bit more restrained and how much you prune because it could
impact next year's flowering with it. For Scythia, you can practically cut as
much as you want and it will be just fine. So they're so they're
really durable and they're really tough. Now I picked show Off for Scythia for
today's Plant on Trial. We have a series, so show Off is a
series of for Scythia that we offer, and the show Off just show Off
on its own is sort of the original and flagship, and it's a full
size for Scythia, So it gets to be about five to six feet tall,
which is like sort of medium. Some for Scythia can be well over
ten or twelve feet, especially when they get rather range. They can get
a little bit range. That's absolutely a word, thank you, and a
very good way to describe what for Scythia might do. But show Off for
Scythia we selected, as with the other plants in the series, show Off
sugar Baby and show Off Starlett. Those are more dwarf versions. Okay,
so show Off sugar Baby is really short, just like two feet tall.
Starlet sort of in the middle of around four and then you've got the original
show off at five to six feet tall and wide. Now, you were
talking earlier in the show about some for scythia experiencing die back or not flowering
where they were not protected by snow. Yeah, you'll see some areas in
Michigan or in Minnesota where you'll see them blooming below the snow line once the
snow clears, and above the snow in the exposed portion of the plant.
Sometimes we lose those blooms. Yes, Now, the original shoff is five
to six feet tall, so if and it's hardy to USDA Zone five,
so if you live in a colder area, it's probably not going to do
well. But this is interesting. We have heard reports from growers and gardeners
in much colder areas that our little show off sugar Baby, since it's only
two feet tall, actually has better cold tolerance because it's completely covered by the
snow and those colder climates. So even though that one also says USDA Zone
five, and we're saying that because that's about where you would expect a good
performance a lot of nice blooms. So that's just something to keep in mind
if you are consistently seeing die back on your for scythia. It's not flowering
as much as you would like it. To consider one of these smaller ones,
particularly if you live in an area where there's reliable snow cover in the
winter, in the coldest part of the winter. Talk about an easy grow
to plant, easy to grow plant. How did I phrase that? You
said easy? Easy? Whatever? Easy plant? Yeah, anyway, talk
about an easy to grow plant. For Scythia is one of those, and
I guess I'd consider it one of those plants that's just a harbinger of spring.
It is, and so we're talking about how easy it is to grow.
It is very aid tolerant, oh, very deer resistant. Now I
have not I have a for sythia. It's not a shawl for sythia,
but just an old fashioned one in my yard that was there when we bought
the house. And the deer never touch it. You have you seen that?
No, that's fabulous. Your deer do not have an appetite for cynthia.
It's kind of amazing. I don't exactly know why. It's certainly not
related to the plant family, because there's other members of the plant family that
deer will eat, but that's one of the big advantages, I think,
and probably one of the reasons why it does seem so ubiquitous at this time
of the year because the deer didn't damage it. And as far as the
shade tolerance goes, now, I do consider them quite shade tolerant. The
more shade they get, particularly if you were in cooler areas like here in
Michigan and through the Midwest, the more you're going to see that impact the
flowering. So they'll still probably flower a bit, okay, but not as
much as they would if they were in full sun. Now, as you
get into those hotter climates, that shade becomes more imperative obviously because the plant
can get more stressed. But shall for Scythia is heat tolerant all the way
down to USDA Zone nine. That's like solid Florida. Wow, that's fantastic.
Yeah, So a broad range where you can grow this, uh this
for scythia. Let me share a little musical information with you here. Have
you ever heard of a zither y? Yeah, a zither in Korea,
it's a musical instrument where the strings cover the entire length of the soundboard.
So they use Paulinia wood to make the zither But here's the interesting thing.
Here's where I'm going with it. The bowl that they used to play the
zither is made of for scythia. It's peeled for scythia, branches hardened with
pine resin. Oh And I guess the only reason I bring this up is,
Hey, if you're ever on some TV show where they ask you the
question and you'll know what it is, and you know, there's there's always
room for random facts on podcast, we love them. Well, I did
not know that, but I can remember, you know, on playground or
whatever when I was a kid, peeling the for Scythia stemp because they do
peel very easily. So anyway, lots of good things about growing for scythia.
You can get your zither bow, you can get cut flowers. The
deer are going to resist it, and it's not going to keep out soil,
and you know a lot of people do have questions, but oh,
can it take this kind of soil? For Scythia can pretty much take any
kind of soil. I wouldn't recommend it for very very wet soils. But
even if it's a soil that's occasionally wet, like from you know a lot
of spring rain, or a lower spot in your yard really not going to
be a problem. I mean they can take pretty much anything. Well,
you mentioned earlier daffodils. For Scythia is a great plant to plant some daffodils
around or some tulips, because generally you're gonna get them to bloom around the
same time. And of course here in the North also we use for scythia
as an indicator for some of the things that we need to do in the
yard when soil temperatures, air temperatures warm up enough and we have some turf
care to do. So talk about a functional, wonderful plant. And you
know what else, it's a great hedge, and we go ahead. We've
talked about hedges before, and I think if you are looking for a very
low maintenance hedge, that makes sense that you can just kind of let it
go, but has one absolutely fantastic moment that's gonna make people slam on the
brakes in their car as they're driving. For scythia is a great choice for
that. It's cool, it takes almost almost nothing, and no worries about
fertilizer pruning. I mean, you can prune it for scythia if you have
it for Scythia, and you're sitting there wondering, well, when do I
prune it? That would be after it finishes blooming. So for Cythia bloom
on old wood, that means they have their flower buds all through winter,
which is why they can sometimes have that issue with you damage like we talked
about from winter cold. So you want to letch for Scythia bloom and then
prune it, and then it has all season long to recover and make more
flower buds for next year. So they don't strictly need it, but a
lot of people say, as you said, they get range you. If
you have an older variety that's not selected for such a nice, you know,
compact habit, you might be thinking you want to prune it and after
it blooms as the time. It's a great idea. William for scyth were
for pythe whatever his name was, the Scottish botanist who the plant is named
after, would be proud of us. You know. It's you bring up
a good point, because I was going to say, in England they call
it for Pythiah, SOA's name was probably for his name was Forsythi okay,
And here in the US we started calling it for Scythia. And yes,
even though Forsythia is technically correct, your garden center is probably going to look
at you a little bit funny if you go in there asking for a Forsythia.
And you know, as I've said before on the show, when it
comes down to pronunciation, the important thing is you walk away with what you
wanted, and I'm not sure forsythia will get you there. On that note,
we need to take a little bit of a break, but when we
come back, we're going to be answering your garden questions, so please stick
around. Thanks for listening to the Gardening Simplified Podcast sponsored by Proven Winners Color
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and find a local retailer at Proven Winners color Choice dot com. Greetings gardeners,
and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. You know, we've been
doing the show for a little over six months now, and I just want
to say we appreciate everyone who listens and watches on YouTube but so very much,
and it's been really interesting to hear from people as they leave comments or
write into the show and if you have a question for us and you want
to write in, you can reach us at Gardening Simplified OnAir dot com or
just email help HLP at Gardening Simplified OnAir dot Com. But Adriana told me
we had an interesting YouTube comment that I wanted to share with all of our
listeners, and she says, I have more than one hundred containers in my
tiny front garden, over one hundred water vessels, all with plants in them
in my twenty six by twenty six footbackyard, and too many pots to count.
I live in a villa. House must be narrow, must be six
foot narrower then the land. The two three foot concrete baths on either side
are full of hanging plants or hanging baskets and container plants. I live in
one of the hottest driest cities on Earth, Adelaide, South Australia. It
rarely gets to freezing even here, even in winter, we don't have the
freeze thought issue. I've never seen snow in my six plus decades of life.
I'm an avid gardener and I'm finding this YouTube channel very useful and interesting.
So let me mention as far as the snow is concerned, and this
is wonderful. Thank you for the comment. As far as the snow is
concerned, let me tell you the novelty wears off real fast. Okay,
you're really not missing anything. You aren't missing anything. But you know,
when Adriana read me this comment, I was like, Wow, that's so
cool. I really wonder what their garden looks like. And this listener graciously
shared her Instagram account, so if you want to see what her very interesting
garden is Adelaide, South Australia looks like, you can find her on Instagram
at Carrie Jean Harvey. That's k r R Y j e A n r
v h A r v e y And of course we'll put that in the
show notes. So we just want to thank our listeners from near and far.
And you know we hear you when you say, can you talk about
more heat tolerant stuff? Can you talk about more cold tolerant stuff? And
we'll get to it all sooner or later. So I love it. You
know, I'm the type of person who would say that's a real kick in
the plants, although in Australia, I guess they say better than a kick
up the backside. So wonderful. Thank you for your message. Yes,
thank you. So what do we have in the gardener mail bed today?
ALTHEA writes to us, why does my snowball by Burnham shrub tree not bloom?
It's been in the ground for two and a half seasons, looks very
healthy. I'm so new at this gardening thing. I have no clue it
has never bloomed. What fertilizer I've used? Holly tone, plant tone,
help me please. So a lot of people, you know, when something
doesn't bloom, their first thought is fertilizer. And that's not a bad thought,
because it's true that flowering from a plant's perspective takes a lot of energy,
and so if a plant is stressed or low on nutrients or otherwise,
you know, senses like, hey, I got to conserve my energy.
I'm experiencing bad things here. It might not flower, but really, especially
when it comes to flowering shrubs, the number one question I always go to
is pruning, because that is by far the main reason that someone's shrub wouldn't
bloom. And so snowballed by burnhams, which are Viburnum, placatum tom and
towsum beautiful plant a lot of people mistake them for hydranges because they do look
similar to the untrained eye. I wanted to say that because that's actually one
I can pronounce, but go ahead, person, Sorry, it's okay.
Didn't mean to steal your thunder there ic So it blooms on old wood,
which is to say that it creates its flowers in the summer, carries them
all through winter, and comes out starts blooming in the early spring. And
so if it gets pruned pretty much any time from you know, June until
it starts to bloom in May, you're going to be cutting off the flower
buds. So my first thought to you, alphea is hasn't been pruned or
cut back at all. And if that's the case, then you've got a
very easy solution. Just stop pruning it and it should come into bloom.
Probably not this year, it's going to be too late, but don't prune
it coming up, and then you should at least be able to look forward
to flowers next year. It's also important, even though viburnum are generally quite
deer resistant the plant itself, I have found when I've tried to grow viburnum
in my yard the deer will eat the flower buds. Yeah, you know,
they don't really damage the rest of the plant, which makes you not
even realize that they had been there because they're so good at just taking out
that little tiny flower bud and you don't notice, like, whoa, the
deer, we're here, and there's a bunch of jagged branches sticking out all
over the place. It's not like that. It's just like you barely even
notice, and then there's just no flowers. Yeah. I've seen that.
Even squirrels I've seen nip at the buds. But boy, you nailed it,
Stacy. I mean, if you prune too early in spring, or
you're pruning and late fall, you're gonna lose those blooms. And that's why,
you know, pruning sounds so complicated, but that's why I always tell
people, you know, if you're not quite sure, pruning right after a
plant has done flowering usually works out pretty decent. Yeah, there's very few
exceptions to that, so that is a good guideline to follow. The other
thing I would say, alfia is a you mentioned it's only been in the
ground for two and a half seasons, and I don't know what size plant
you started off with, but particularly if it was a very small one,
it could just be that it needs more time. You know. Typically if
you're starting with a large er like three or five gallon plant that you would
get at the garden center, you're probably going to get flowering within you know,
the first two years after flowering. But if you started with like a
little plant that you would have gotten online or you know, cutting from a
friend or something like that, it's probably going to need more time. And
you know, it's always good to keep in mind the old gardener's adage first
year sleep, second year creep, third year leap. So first year it's
just sleeping, you're not going to see a lot. The second year it's
creeping, most of the actions taking place underground while it establishes roots. And
then in the third year that's when it's really ready. It's had the time
to get established, really ready to start stratton its stuff. So no pruning,
a little more time, and I think, Elfia, if you don't
see flowers this year, you're in good shape for them next year. I
love this question. Marlowe writing to us from Dallas, Texas. I'm in
Dallas, Zone eight A. I'm really interested in the decadence false indigo,
lemon, merangue, etc. This is the baptisia that Stacey and I will
often talk about, a favorite of ours. She wants it for a sunny
spot in her garden. I have never seen it here in any of the
nurseries. Would it do well here? Also are some of the colors larger
than others. Will the tap root be a problem if I ever need to
remove it, Please let me know the pros and cons and where I may
be able to find it. By the way, I want to mention that
I have spent time in the Dallas area and I do know that Callaways in
Dallas is a proven Winners certified location. And also the great people at Nicholson
Hardy. I've visited there also before, and maybe those are two places to
try, or at least ask them. Yeah, they definitely have a great
selection garden centers in the Dallas area, so I would start with those.
And all of that is to say that absolutely one hundred percent you can grow
false indigo baptisia in Dallas. In fact, Beatitia is native all the way
down to Texas, Okay. So even though these varieties that proven winners perennials
have introduced, have been you know, developed for specific colors or that kind
of thing. The actual species itself is native to Texas, so it's set
up to do very well for you. Of these varieties, they're all lovely,
but lemon meringue is by far the biggest and most vigorous. So if
you're really looking for something that is going to you know, fill in quick
and be super robust and reliable, I would say go with lemon meringue hands
down. I have a bunch of them, and the color is amazing and
they're just even though I have a bunch of the decadent series, I find
that that variety is can definitely withstand my drought and sun and everything the best
out of all of them. Now I agree, and Stacy, yeah,
you nailed it. I looked it up zones four A to nine B,
so easily. Yep. Grown in in the Dallas area. And you know,
if you go to Proven Winners website also you can they have a feature
there where you can look for or retailers. So again I would recommend that,
but Callaway's or Nicholson Hardy That's where I'd start. And I do want
to just address your concern about the tap roots. So I think we had
joked a few shows ago about trying to move a Baptisia, which is a
monumental task. The root systems are incredible. And the answer to that is
the tap root is only a problem if you're trying to transplant it. In
other words, if you're trying to keep it alive while you're digging it out,
then the tap roots a problem. If all you want to do is
get rid of the plant, it won't be a problem. It'll take some
work, but it's not going to like stay and be like a dandelion where
it keeps coming up. If you're able to dig any portion, any substantial
portion of the root mass out, you won't have any trouble. But they
do go quite deep. And so this is one of those plants that,
like peonies, you're going to want to commit to that location for a good
long time and avoid This isn't one you know, Rick and I are big
fans of saying we changed your mind, we want to move it somewhere else.
I think this would look better here. Baptisia is not one of those
plants that let you do that. I bend over and split my plants all
the time. I have a lot of practice doing so have fun. All
right, Well, think we have time for one last one there? Sure,
Barbara writes about clematis. I have this clematis for about five years.
First blooms are gorgeous, then the leaves start to die. I ask at
a local nursery but about it, but they didn't know how to help,
right, So Barbara did send in a photo, which of course we'll put
on the show notes and in the YouTube show so you can see all this.
And you know, when I first read Barbara's question, I was like,
oh, Clematist wilt, which we talked about, you know, on
our Clematist show, very common fungal disease that happens a little bit later in
the season. But what I saw in Barbara's picture is that her clematis has
a virus. Yikes, and virus in plants is a lot of people miss
it because it looks like variegation and the all they think, oh, all
of a sudden, my plants variegated. But it does have a very distinctive
look to it, and it's yellow. You'll see it if you if you
go to the gardening simplified on air dot com show notes. And so I
don't know if the clematis wilt is the WILL team that she's seeing is related
to the virus or not. It could be. It also could just be
that it's more susceptible to clematis will because the virus is gradually weakening the plant.
It's flowering beautifully. But I would say, Barbara, as beautiful as
your clematis is, this is a situation where I would advise you remove it.
And I hate to say that, but there's really no cure for plant
viruses. And what happens when you have a virus plant in your garden is
that the little hopping insects, you know, leafhoppers, aphids, mite,
anything that goes around and sucks your plant, it will take that to other
clematists in your neighborhood. Usually it's specific to the plant. So I hate
to say it, Barbara, but I think this clematis needs to go.
Clematis clematis, let's call the whole thing on. I'm afraid so sorry.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but sometimes that's just the
way it is in gardening. So we need to take a little bit of
a break, but when we come back, we're going to have an interview
with a landscape designer, So please stay team. At Proven Winners Color Choice
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is Bifo's vigorous something that is gonna, you know, fill in quick and
be super robust. And Ney Claremont from Second Nature designs on Martha's Vineyard Island,
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down. I have a bunch of them, and the color is amazing and
they're just even though I have a bunch of the decadent series, I find
that that variety is can definitely withstand my drought and sun and everything the best
out of all of them. No, I agree, And Stacy, Yeah,
you nailed it. Did up zones four A to nine B so easily
yep, grown in in the Dallas area. And you know, if you
go to Proven Winners website also you can they have a feature there where you
can look for retailers. So again I would recommend that, but Callaway's or
Nicholson Hardy That's where I'd start. And I do want to just address your
concern about the tap roots. So I think we had joked a few shows
ago about trying to move a Baptisia, which is a monumental task. Their
root systems are incredible. And the answer to that is the tap root is
only a problem if you're trying to transplant it. In other words, if
you're trying to keep it alive while you're digging it out, then the tap
roots a problem. If all you want to do is get rid of the
plant, it won't be a problem. It'll take some work, but it's
not going to like stay and be like a dandelion where it keeps coming up.
If you're able to dig any portion, any substantial portion of the root
mass out, you won't have any trouble. But they do go quite deep.
And so this is one of those plants that like p and you're going
to want to commit to that location for a good long time and avoid and
avoid. This isn't one you know, Rick and I are big fans of
saying we changed your mind. We want to move it somewhere else. I
think this would look better here. Baptisia is not one of those plants that
let you do that. I bend over and split my plants all the time.
I have a lot of practice doing so have fun. All right,
we think we have time for one last one there, sure, Barbara writes
about clematis. I have this clematis for about five years. First blooms are
gorgeous, then the leaves start to die. I ask at a local nursery
but about it, but they didn't know how to help, right, So
Barbara did send in a photo, which of course we'll put on the show
notes and in the YouTube show so you can see all this. And you
know, when I first read Barbara's question, I was like, oh,
Clematist, will which we talked about, you know, on our Clematist show,
very common fungal disease that happens a little bit later in the season.
But what I saw in Barbara's picture is that her clematis has a virus yikes,
and virus in plants is a lot of people miss it because it looks
like variegation and the all they think, Oh, all of a sudden,
my plants variegated. But it does have a very distinctive look to it and
it's yellow. You'll see it if you if you go to the gardening Simplified
on air dot com show notes. And so, I don't know if the
clematis wilt. Is the wilting that she's seeing is related to the virus or
not. It could be. It also could just be that it's more susceptible
to clematis wilt because the virus is gradually weakening the plant. It's flowering beautifully,
but I would say, Barbara, as beautiful as your clematis is,
this is a situation where I would advise you remove it. And I hate
to say that, but there's really no cure for plant viruses. And what
happens when you have a virus plant in your garden is that the little hopping
insects, you know, leafhoppers, aphids, might anything that goes around and
sucks your plant, it will take that to other clematists in your neighborhood.
Usually it's it's specific to the plant. So I hate to say it,
Barbara, but I think this clematis needs to go clematis clematis, let's call
it all the whole thing off. I'm afraid, so sorry. I hate
to be the bearer of bad news, but sometimes that's just the way it
is and gardening. So we need to take take a little bit of a
break. But when we come back, we're going to have an interview with
the landscape designer, so please stay tuned at proven Winner's Color Choice Boy Shrubs.
We love plants. That's why we bring you the Gardening Simplified podcast,
and that's why we trial and test all of our shrubs to make sure they
outperform everything else on the market. Let our our expertise help you create the
garden or landscape of your d dreams. Get started at proven Winner's Color Choice
dot Com. That Proven Winners Gerennials have introduced have been you know, developed
for specific colors or that kind of thing. The actual species itself is native
to Texas, so it's set up to do very well for you. Of
these varieties, they're all lovely, but lemon meringue is by far the biggest,
and Mobo. If you're really looking for some most vigorous something that is
gonna, you know, fill in quick and be super robust, reliable,
I would say go with Lemon Meringue hands down. I have a bunch of
them, and the color is amazing and they're just even though I have a
bunch of the Decadent series, I find that that variety is can definitely withstand
my drought and sun and everything the best out of all of them. Now
I agree, and Stacy, yeah, you nailed it. I looked it
up zones four A to nine B, so easily yep. Grown in in
the Dallas area. And you know, if you go to Proven Winners website
also you can They have a feature there where you can look for retailers.
So again I would recommend that, but Callaway's or Nicholson Hardy That's where I'd
start. And I do want to just address your concern about the tap roots.
So I think we had joked a few shows ago about trying to move
a baptisia, which is a monumental task. Their root systems are incredible,
and the answer to that is the tap root is only a problem if you're
trying to transplant it. In other words, if you're trying to keep it
alive while you're digging it out, then the tap roots a problem. If
all you want to do is get rid of the plant, it won't be
a problem. It'll take some work, but it's not gonna like stay and
you know, be like a dandelion where it keeps coming up. If you're
able to dig any portion, any substantial portion of the root mass out,
you won't have any trouble. But they do go quite deep. And so
this is one of those plants that, like peonies, you're going to want
to commit to that location for a good long time and avoid and avoid.
This isn't one you know, Rick and I are big fans of saying we
changed your mind. We want to move it somewhere else. I think this
would look better here. Baptisia is not one of those that let you do
that. I bend over and split my plants all the time. I have
a lot of practice doing so have fun. All right, Well, think
we have time for one last one there? Sure, Barbara writes about clematis.
I have this clematis for about five years. First blooms are gorgeous,
then the leaves start to die. I ask at a local nursery but about
it, but they didn't know how to help, right, so um,
Barbara did send in a photo, which of course we'll put on the show
notes and in the YouTube show so you can see all this. And you
know, when I first read Barbara's question, I was like, oh,
Clematist will which we talked about, you know, on our Clematist show,
very common fungal disease that happens a little bit later in the season. But
what I saw in Barbara's picture is that her clematis has a virus. Yikes,
and virus in plants is a lot. How if people miss it because
it looks like variegation and the all they think, oh, all of a
sudden, my plants variegated. But it does have a very distinctive look to
it, and it's yellow. You'll see it if you if you go to
the gardening simplified on air dot Com show notes. And so I don't know
if the clematis wilt is the wilting that she's seeing is related to the virus
or not. It could be. It also could just be that it's more
susceptible to clematis wilt because the virus is gradually weakening the plant. It's flowering
beautifully, but I would say, Barbara, as beautiful as your clematis is,
this is a situation where I would advise you remove it. And I
hate to say that, but there's really no cure for plant viruses. And
what happens when you have a virus plant in your garden is that the little
hopping insects, you know, leafhoppers, aphids, might, anything that goes
around and sucks your plant, it will take that to other clematists in your
neighborhood. Usually it's specific to the plant. So hate to say it,
Barbara, but I think this clematis needs to go. Climatism clematis, let's
call it all the whole thing off. I'm afraid, so sorry. I
hate to be the bearer of bad news, but sometimes that's just the way
it is gardening. So we need to take take a little bit of a
break. But when we come back, we're going to have an interview with
the landscape designer, So please stay tuned at Proven Winners Color Choice Boy Shrubs.
We love plants, That's why we bring you the Gardening Simplified podcast,
and that's why we trial and test all of our shrubs to make sure they
form everything else on the market. Let our our expertise help you create the
garden or landscape of your dreams. Get started at provens dot com that proven winners