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Speaker 2: It's a Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's LeVar Arrington. That guy's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox. We are two pros and a cup of Joe filling in for Dan and the guys here. You can normally hear us Monday through Friday before the Dan Patrick Show six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific, but we will take you here all the way up until noon Eastern time nine am Pacific today. You can listen on the iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. If you're listening on the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. And you can watch us right now on YouTube at two pros fsrs where you can find us at two pros FSR. We are streaming there. There's been some speculation, some debate about whether or not it's a simulcast. I know some people would feel very strongly about the term simulcast on this show.

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Speaker 1: Well, we are simulcast. Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: No, it's short for simultaneously, way simultaneous.

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Speaker 1: Look it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not the sharpest knife in the in the drawer. But when you're simulcasting, that means that you're in multiple places where you can listen to somebody. So don't get offended like y'all such sissies on on social media. Ye are can't stand y'all with you? Man with you go put your face in a hole.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know from time to time it's not the worst thing in the world. No, not for them. So from from that over to this, the NBA is back, all right. The quote unquote second half of the regular season started last night, got underway with some NBA action around the league. We mentioned Amazon Prime at a couple of games. You had the Epistons and the Knicks, Celtics and the Warriors, and so post All Star Break, the NBA's back, and the NBA cannot help but find themselves in the midst of another problem. They try and figure out and they try and fix. I just watch it and go. None of it matters in the regular season, So what's the point. And if we're being honest, the first round, maybe the second round doesn't matter either.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So you got to dig deeper into that for me, because why doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Matter because it's a different season everybody ramps up for the postseason, and you're either trying to get to the draft or you're trying to set yourself up for the postseason because everybody is judged based on the postseason performance.

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Speaker 1: The regular season is cool.

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Speaker 4: But in order to get to the postseason, you have to be successful enough in the regular season. Cool, it does matter to it.

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Speaker 2: Rea, And there's bad games throughout the course of the regular season, there's players that aren't participating. They can throw whatever awards they want as part of the reason for you to play. And then we get to the postseason and we realize, oh, we got to sit through seven of these potentially just to get to the conference finals and the NBA Finals. There's about four teams that can win a title, and it's most likely going to be Okay, See, that's what it feels like to me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, that's this year and looking at in a vacuum. But I guess my point is, like, what's the difference between tanking and then game management or load management.

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Speaker 1: You're still trying to win. If it's load management.

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Speaker 3: If you're tanking your purposely, this would be my interpretation of it, you're purposely trying to lose. So if I'm pulling a guy, and how are you doing that by pulling my better players out of the game.

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Speaker 4: And then if you're doing load management, who's not playing the game? Your better players are being pulled out of a game. But if it's load management, you're pulling them out of the game with a strategy of saying, I'm trying to preserve them for the long haul of a long season, so I want them to have as much in the tank as they possibly can can have still be competitive to make the postseason, and then them have enough.

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Speaker 3: Gas to be able to get through the postseason to the championship. Whereas I think tanking, you're pulling them out with the intentions of of losing, Like we want to lose, that's why we're pulling our better players out. And in fact, you might even be pulling them out to get rid of those players too. That's a part of NBA politics as well. They'll pull you out and.

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Speaker 4: Let's like it on tangent. Let's let's stay on this stuck. Okay. So here's here's where I would say. What's interesting about that is does load management start at the beginning of the season. If you have this long term thought. If it's a long season, we've got to protect our best players. Do they start looking into load management at the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, depending on how old that player is. Andy Helments, I think it's it's all, it's it audit is yes.

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Speaker 4: The answer is a yes. And the reason why bring this up is because I think one of the issues with the NBA right now is it's a league that has gotten to the point where someone like Jonas will say the regular season is meaningless because nothing matters to you get to the playoffs. And that's fair. There's a lot of sports leagues that play a lot of games. Baseball, playoff baseball, even hockey, playoff hockey phenomenal, right, phenomenal regular season. All right, they have their their nights, but it's good and bad. But the truth of the matter is when you have such a long playoff series outside of seating for the playoffs, it takes away from what the regular season is. I think every single professional sports league battles this. So to me, when I'm looking at the NBA issues and I think there's more than just the tanking or game management, I look at it and say, game management starts at the beginning of the season or load management.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, because you're looking at the game management. That's a new term.

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Speaker 4: I like it, But you're looking at it for the extent of the season. Now, if you want to say, hey, we're tanking, well, then to me, it's an entirely different strategy than load management. Taking is like you're getting rid of your best players. So when you're talking about, hey, we're trying to set our best guys for load management and tanking, they ain't there. Like you're moving on, you're clearing cap space, you're trying to accumulate draft picks, because that's ultimately your capital to either go rebuild by getting a star player and building up that roster again, or drafting the future and finding a player like Cooper Flag or Darren Patterson whoever is in this outstanding freshman class in college basketball. Now, Like that's how you'd go about doing it. So when I look at like Adam Silver making tanking this big issue, I actually feel like he's missed again because this isn't the issue with the NBA. Like how many viral things have you seen where we watch guys travel constantly and you're like, why don't they call it, like, why can't they call the game as it's supposed to be called nowadays, Like you have officiating issues, You've got issues with allowing super teams to happen amongst these which is plagued and created less parody in the league. More than anything else, the fact that you're allowing like the multiple all stars, these power you know, teams to get together, Like that's been what's really taking place with the past couple of decades. That's changed the parody and competitiveness. All the stars aren't spread out there together so again, and these are things that like I don't know that you're going to be able to fix in one off season, but trying to get teams away from tanking, I actually feel like I kind of sided with Mark Cuban on this. And I don't know if you guys talked about some of the quotes, Yeah, we did so, and then if you want to review it again, we can talk about this. But but here's why I sided with them a little bit. Is if if you're a team that decides the tank, who ultimately suffers the consequences, well the fans to a degree, but more the team, they're the ones who lose revenue. They're the ones who lose money.

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Speaker 3: But they stink exactly what you're tanking because they stink, so you're already they're already suffering, right, the team is already suffering.

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Speaker 4: They tank. You could look at it in two ways. I would actually say that if you stink, then you're kind of already there. You don't need a tank because you already stink. Teams that tank are teams that are are purgatory. They're not one of the top teams that win a championship, but they're not one of the worst either, because they're already in the mix for getting a lottery pick and trying to rebuild. So they're actually more of a team that's in the middle of the league, and they tank so they get back down to the bottom so they can get some of those lottery picks, or they can put themselves in a position to be able to clear cap space and build it back up. But ultimately, the team that suffers the most is the team that's tanking, like they're taking that on Like I kind of look at it this way, think about real estate, and actually, I'll go close to home for you guys. Obviously, there was the fires on the Pacific Palisades, Right, Yeah, have some of those houses been rebuilt? Oh god, no, no, okay, but why have they not been rebuilt? What's so hard to obtain in California permitting? It's a form of regulation. What Adam Silver's doing, in my mind, is he's actually making it harder for these teams that need to rebuild and want to try to do a quick flip. He's making it harder by creating more regulation around it. So look, I understand people may not agree with this, and again it doesn't always have the best interests of the fan of mine for that season, but long term it does. And I think if you look at the essence of what Mark Cuban's actually saying is he's bringing up a really good point. How many people are priced out now from going to games because everything's gotten so damn expensive. And that's the reality of just what it is. I mean, by by the way, it's not just the NBA. I mean, go look at World Cup tickets for the summer. Yeah, my goodness. That's that's the part of Cuban's Twitter rant, if you want to call it that, that I totally agree with. Is the cost for these families to try and go to games to buy merchandise.

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Speaker 1: All that's it's ridiculous, and it it feels like it's it.

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Speaker 4: And look, I'll say this about like going to the Falcons games, and I think we did a report on this what Arthur Blank was hoping to do, and I think I don't know if LeVar you were there for the show, we were talking about how they've actually kept concession prices low for a lot of the families and fans who want to go to Falcons games. You know, the ticket prices are ticket prices, but it's a great atmosphere. Like chance to call a game this year and I told you guys, it was like it was live like that. It was a wild it was a wild like environment. It was awesome. Now the Falcons did win, but like at the end of the day, it was a great experience. Like the game obviously ended up being, you know, a fun game to watch, was kind of close and all that, but just I'm thinking to myself, they had a fun time, like even though their team then they did a fun time. And so there are some teams and franchises that I think do it well. But I think Mark Cuban's trying to point out something that to me has as much to do with it as anything else, and that's the fan experience. It's been taken away, and I think there is a reality to when I was a young kid growing up Washington, Cleveland Calves. Did I go up saying, Oh, it's the Calves They're going to beat the Chicago Bulls with Michael.

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Speaker 1: Jordan, Hell No, But I wanted to go see them try.

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Speaker 4: They were close, but they were close, and look, that was part of it, Like you were seeing a team that was competitive that almost got there but didn't quite get there. But I would also say this, like, if you take away a team's ability to make that decision, ultimate is gonna hurt them. In Tank, did the Cleveland Cavs ever get Lebron James? I mean Luca basically got to the Mavericks because Cuban admitted that was a strategy to implement it. I just I feel like, if this is the issue that you really want to harp on, if you're Adam Silver in the NBA, you're kind of missing it. In my opinion, man, issue with your league.

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Speaker 3: I think that's why it's the fan and I'm gonna stay I'm gonna stay true to that. I think the fans suffer when a team tanks. That's who suffers, because it is about the fan experience. Pro sports sports in general are our geared towards catering to the family, and when you tank, and and and the Cleveland cavid Leers, that's a great example because this was a team that was that they had talent. I mean they had what Elo was on that team was on there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I was also years that you're not remembering where they weren't good.

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Speaker 1: Well they I get that, it's Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: But with that being said, but with that being said, again, if a team is trying to be competitive, as a fan, you could still get behind that. You can boo, you could be upset, but you could still say they came out and they tried when you're talking about tanking.

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Speaker 4: But no, no, be hold on, even the guys if they're like this is why this argument never works with the NFL. Do the players that are there weeks sixteen, seventeen eighteen, if the starters aren't in, are those backups going in there saying well, I'm going to land today.

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Speaker 3: They would be starting if they weren't. If they weren't. No, no, But that's not the point. If you're talking about effort, but guys doing all they can, I mean have to, Yeah, but that's their livelihood. That's not my focus. My focus is I'm going to play the best players to have the best opportunity to try to win. If those players are available and they're not playing, that's tanking. And if you're you have your best players available then for instance, but that's tanking slash.

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Speaker 4: You could call it load management, whatever you want. And then look again, I.

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Speaker 1: Like a games.

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Speaker 3: It depends on it depends on what your your thought process is.

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Speaker 1: If you're not saying, god, I'm not saying it's.

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Speaker 4: Ethical, hear me out. I brought up the Pacific paliss and the fires on lot for this reason. There's people who want to build back their home. They want to do it now. They probably have the means and capability to do it now, but they're not able to so they can't ramp up and start that building process to move back into their home to be able to you know, start that new life again or build that new team again, because of overregulation. And that's where I feel like you're getting out a little bit. Here is it's getting so nuanced. I mean, would you just let five bullet points of different ways that they're trying to try to curtail tanking.

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Speaker 2: I think I think this is a clear sign that Adam Silver and the NBA care more about the TV partners and the gambling partners than they do the fans. Because if you cared about the fans the way that you did, yeah, there would be some sort of an edict around the league to be like, hey man, make it more affordable for fans, make it more affordable to this. A lot of this was pushed on because they're paranoia about gambling and players take you know, like what this guy's resting gambling partners. I wonder if this is on the up and up. I think that this is all about the TV revenue and the gambling revenue. I think the fans are third in this in this order, which they should be number one exactly. That's the bottom line. It's a consumer driven industry.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say some but you're not gonna like it that the fans aren't what pays the bills. It's the TV media rights.

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Speaker 3: H but TV rights deals are based off of how many people are viewing those those commercials exactly. If you take away the fan, the TV rights don't even matter like that.

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Speaker 4: There's two there's two different experiences because you can say that, right, the stadiums can be empty, but if people still watch, there's still TV media rights deals.

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Speaker 3: Well, and first stadium is ticket sales concession.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, but people people are still watching. That's why the TV media rights deals are what they are. And by the way, let me go a step further. What about leagues like the w NBA.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're supplemented by by the by the NBA.

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Speaker 4: There's subst there's subset of the NBA, but there's also they're still going for extreme value as far as the franchise rights, and they still have TV media rights deel that if you look at the economics of it, they would say, well, they're not obviously to the viewership of the NBA, but someone's watching, and there's clearly not as many people there in person as there is watching on TV. It's so based off I understand you want the fans to be like first and all this, but that's not how these guys are looking at They're looking at like a business.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a difference between the fan that wants to go to the game and the fan who wants to watch at home.

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Speaker 4: In the sense, by the way, if you're taking you have that choice. You don't have to buy the ticket if you know the team's tank and which is which is not a decision that you make again like it happens to the season or you know, going into the seat. Like the Browns when they adopted that strategy, I don't think anyone didn't think that they weren't like they were going to be competitive, like they openly kind of admitted like what they were kind of doing.

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Speaker 2: I just think that the product at home has gotten so good that why would you want to go to get Like there was a story we did about a guy who went to every single NFL stadium this year. He watched a bunch of these games, went to every single stadium, and my big question was why, Because there's still something connected to an end person experience. I totally get it, but I think that the number of people who fill up a stadium NBA, for example, what eighteen thousand on a good night, on a really good night at an NBA game, eighteen thousand if you're up to the rafters. There's a lot more people to tune in and out of that game on TV if it's on team and I think that I think that Adams Silver with with the TV partnerships, with the gambling paranoia. I think he looks at that is we'll address the fans later and hope they stick around. We got to make sure that things are right on the TV side and present a better product because more of those people are watching at home.

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Speaker 4: It's just too good now by the way, the players will adapt to this, you know, because this isn't This is also isn't like a singular issue that just the the NBA side is trying to figure out and fix with the teams, because load management is a portion of it being players choice too. I mean, how many NBA players have we heard about who want to be you know, traded or go to another team because their team held them out of games for load management like the Max Crosby situation in Las Vegas. Have we heard about an NBA player who was frustrated about the team shutting them down for load management?

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Speaker 2: No, that guy would sign an extension. I don't necessarily agree with that. I think guys are.

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Speaker 3: I do think guys are frustrated when they get load man management, because that's a way of saying, we don't want this player, and we don't want to play this player. Load management and in some cases is a reference to we're not going to play you. We're trying to move you, and they'll sit you until they're able to move you. That is true, that's very What would you call okay? What would very true? What would you call Lebron this year? Probably load management because he's very he's very old, very old.

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Speaker 4: Elements of that, but there's elements of that with all Stars.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 3: That's like, that's example, because.

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Speaker 1: In LA that's that's okay. I take that example.

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Speaker 3: There's other examples of load management for a for a lot longer than looking at one singular person that's an outlier Lebrod.

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Speaker 4: You're combining the two. If you're saying that they want to sit him out to move him, that's tanking. That's not load management.

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Speaker 1: That's not necessarily tanking. Though, I like, it's not that black and white.

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Speaker 2: You're your nurturing tone with Lebron, like he's very old, he's old.

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Speaker 1: He is It's like it's like a dog. That is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Man I didn't say like a dog, but he is very old and load management could go a long way if you're trying to make it to the playoffs and him have enough guests.

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Speaker 1: But there are.

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Speaker 3: Player there's a lot of guys necessarily the reason why they do load management with all these players, and it's either it's not.

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Speaker 4: If you sit out a guy to move him, then clearly you're not necessarily tanking, but you're not trying to plan because you're trying to rebuild.

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Speaker 3: That's well, you're not playing him because you don't want to play him because for whatever reason that could be disagreement between away coach and player or GM player or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Player has complete control over whether or not they want to play. Like if someone came to you and said you're not playing it for load management, the player can be like, f off, I'm gonna go play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they might not play them. They're not going to play them. He's not going to go into the game. It's not off, I'm going into the game. You can't go into the game. They got to put you in the game. They're not going in the game. Okay, then here's what you do.

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Speaker 4: He'd follow grievance with with his union to the NBA and said they have to play them. I'm healthy. I'm telling you about want to play. They don't have to play them. You can say they don't have to, but there would be a grievance file if that was the case. You can't force a player who's on the roster he's healthy, to not play, like I'm saying. Look, management, they're in street clothes.

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Speaker 3: You have there a lot of homies behind the scenes that know a lot about a lot of things. Ask them about this topic. That is not true what you're saying. I mean, yeah, sure they can, they can foul a grievance, but they do not have to play a player. If they decide that they're going to move on from a player, I don't care how big his name is, they will sit him out. They will sit that man out, and that sports that.

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Speaker 4: That's okay, LeVar, That's exactly what I'm talking about with Max Crosby and the Raiders. He wanted to play. They shut him down, They sat him out.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, And we don't we still don't know.

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Speaker 4: How many players have we heard in the NBA who've been seeking a trade and made a big deal about orchestra.

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Speaker 3: Because it's just very normalized. So you're not going to hear it as much because it's a normalized practice within that industry.

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Speaker 1: That's all I mean. It is what it is. It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't make the rules, not me that does it, but I do know that for certain that that is how things are handled at them in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'd say.

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Speaker 1: Next season in the NFL.

00:24:19
Speaker 2: You can book it, because that's the way that works for Sean McVay company.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd love to find some odds. I bet it right now, all right, I mean he already interviewed for head coaching positions this year. I mean tell us about him too. Who is this guy? I don't have much I mean that's the problem is is a lot of these young guys. To Jonas's point, they're kind of, you know, going up the ranks fast. To the point he's thirty five years old, all right, he uh is out of Kansas City, Missouri. He actually played quarterback at a it's a it's a powerhouse there in Kansas City, Rockhurst. It's a private school, but great school, great tradition. They're really good football program. I ended up going to Illinois playing quarterback there as well. By Neilana, Yeah, he's worked his way up the ranks, but mostly through college football. I mean, he just got into the NFL two years ago. No, he was colling plays as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach for Iowa State. But I believe that was like for a year, maybe maybe a couple of years if you count, like run game coordinator and all that.

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Speaker 3: Like with Matt Campbell. Yeah, oh okay, interesting. So we've talked about I think I've decided to like him. Then they like Sheiel House guy.

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Speaker 4: I guess my my reaction to all this when you're like, who is this guy? Or why don't why don't we know him better? Like when he was being interviewed for head coaching jobs, my initial thought is he has to be so impressive. Yeah, you know, and you know what I'm saying. Like you guys, we all know, well, you meet someone at that age that you're like, wow, like that that kid's going places. They're just different, They're an outlier. That's to me how this probably has all come about radio.

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Speaker 3: Then I don't get that because I get that feeling when I see you, like, why aren't you a GM's a good point.

00:26:09
Speaker 1: Let's stay on this a little bit. Why aren't why aren't we there?

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Speaker 4: We always have to do that said, I mean, you make these comparisons and like, who's more impressive than Brady Quinn Man?

00:26:22
Speaker 3: No, stay right here, listen. I've been around, I've been around something doing this. I've been around some pretty accomplished people. I've been around some pretty bright people with us.

00:26:32
Speaker 1: Here's let me tell you.

00:26:33
Speaker 4: I am good.

00:26:34
Speaker 3: I am good at seeing talent. If y'all had noticed that I'm pretty good at it, that is true. Here's the truth.

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Speaker 1: Though.

00:26:41
Speaker 4: LaVar loves hanging out together so much. He's hoping that I get one of these jobs so we can hang out every day together in an NFL facility.

00:26:48
Speaker 3: That's correct, You got you what I say? When they come to get you.

00:26:54
Speaker 1: You better take me with you. And you're wondering, I'm.

00:26:58
Speaker 4: Born out of super Bowl Week. You enjoy our time together so much Super Week. You're like, we just I was actually trying to recruit you to go to to like move to the East Coast.

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Speaker 1: I was recruiting you.

00:27:08
Speaker 3: You heard out. I'm entertaining it. Yeah, and we go what I say, let's let's get a let's get a compound, or let's get a ranch. I love to have some cows. I love to have some horses. My daughters love horses, like they ride horses like I'm in. If we got you know, we got like a little ranch or something like that, I'm in.

00:27:30
Speaker 1: I like my jaws.

00:27:31
Speaker 4: You know, I would take care of the ranch and this whole set up.

00:27:35
Speaker 1: You know, I know a few people. Yeah, I'll make it a family deal, that's all. And they shorted me on some wedding gifts. So everybody's got a role to play. They got debts to pay, They've got to pay you back. Yeah right, damn right they do. Hey, we ran that through COVID.

00:27:48
Speaker 3: Come on, buddy, I mean, while we're at it, girl, a nice little field full of uh full of trees. I hope that could be chopped down. They can handle that, they can help out with that. It's a real shame, real operation. It's a real shame. People don't recognize how uncalled for. What LeVar and Brady just did was, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:28:12
Speaker 1: This lock told me.

00:28:15
Speaker 2: This is like locker room stuff where you're getting it and they're passing it back and forth and you don't want the hot potatoes, you turn it over to somebody else, and then he gets it.

00:28:23
Speaker 4: Now he walks in. That's what you got to do. That back to Shieldhouse. Okay, I will say this. I think he's a young man who he was actually a pretty highly tired recruit from what I can recall out of from Rockhurst. But I think he's one of those guys who he just is that impressive, you know, whether it's how he conducts a meeting, how he handles himself in interviews, and like I said, I think we've all been across people like that. So when I hear like a young guy's name with people like well who is this guy? Like how is he? At this point, I'm like, well, Sean McVay probably sees part of himself in him, because that's who Sean McVay was. I mean again, you guys on the West coast. You guys remember when Sean McVay was hired, there was some questions about it, Like you literally went from Jeff Fisher, who was like the most kind of stable, steady hand like wiley veteran had coached in the NFL forever. I mean, hell, he coached the Houston Oilers, Yes he did, so, like you literally went from that to McVay, which I'm sure was a big question marked a lot of people out there on the West Coast, and maybe there's still some question marks about Shielhouse. But I would say trust in the process, trust in who Sean McVay is and his ability to see talent, because clearly he knows what he's doing. He doesn't bring in and hire like you guys are dumb. He's smart people.

00:29:39
Speaker 2: I remember when Sean McVay came in and interviewed, it was similar to the Mike Tomlin stuff to where they weren't expecting that he was going to blow anybody away in the interview process, and he came in and they were stunned, and then they brought him back for a second interview, and I can remember the guy who was kind of pointing it out was Vinnie bon Signor, who it works and covers the Raiders now in Vegas, and he was saying, Man, I'm here a lot of good things about this Sean McVay guy. He blew them away in the first interview, blow him away in the second. It feels like this there's some momentum building. Nobody knew who he was, nobody was familiar with him, and since he's gotten here you talk about We mentioned this before, the knock on Belichick is what? And Brady, you've played for some of the guys that are Belichick disciples is yeah, but they try and be Belichick and it doesn't work. There's a lot of examples of Belichick assistants.

00:30:25
Speaker 1: Who don't work.

00:30:26
Speaker 2: It's hard to find an example of a McVeigh assistant that hasn't worked because they're hipsters.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Yes?

00:30:33
Speaker 3: I just told you yesterday on the show. You got to meet these kids where they're at. This is why, And this is the question I would want to post to both of you and Q you aren't here to take this one, so I saved it for today. Do we think that that's why the younger generation of coaches are being You would not consider a coach in their thirties in the old NFL. You might not consider a coach in their early forties in the old NFL. This new NFL, they're hiring younger. The game has gotten younger, and I'm telling you, I think it's because the players have changed. The way you interact and you deal with players has to be very, very different in twenty twenty six. It's a theory, it's a thought. But this new wave of younger coaches coming in. We just had the youngest coach in the history of the league, right just win the Super Bowl? Is did he get that record? I believe he might be the youngest Donald Yeah, I think he might be. If he's not, he's one or two. I think he might be the youngest head coach to win the Super Bowl. I'm I'm I almost feel like I'm certain on that. But I'm just curious. Is this out of necessity? Is it easy to fire? Is it he year to fire a young guy and say, hey, you know, there's plenty of young guys. I just wonder why has it become such a there is a mold or there is a profile that I feel is developing in the head coaching hiring cycles, and it's younger with all of them.

00:32:22
Speaker 4: Very just this question, though I don't know. I think I think it's us and I think I think that's our perspective on how the hying process has gone. Like if you think through times like Steve Jobs, I think he was like twenty one years old when he founded Apple. You know, Steve was in the act. His partner was like twenty six. You know, look at Microsoft, Paul Allen was twenty two years old. I mean, if you go through like history and I relate to these specific examples of successful companies because you know that's what you have with the NFL. You have thirty to successful companies obviously, right, they're like recession proof. These things never can go out of business, bad years, whatever, doesn't matter. They print money. And so you're you're tasked with finding whoever that next bright mind is, whether it be young old what have you to lead your team? And I think it's just in some ways a little bit of our misconception that, like, you know, young people haven't blazed this path before. But the truth of the matter is they have, It's just it doesn't happen quite as often. And I think we also like to believe that you need to have experience, you need to you know, go through some of the bumps and bruises in order to understand like what that job entails. Experience maybe be a better decision maker, Yeah, but maybe you're a better decision maker not having that experience.

00:33:45
Speaker 1: And to that point on Earth is bliss, they say, right, yeah.

00:33:49
Speaker 4: And I think people tend to forget, like a lot of this country was actually built on entrepreneurism, where you have people who are starting up a company. They have an idea, they have a product, a service, whatever, and they end up then making it, you know, and they get to a certain point where maybe they bring in some other people who can't help them, but it's their idea, it's their baby that they where they get it. And I think that's what we were starting to see a little bit too in sports, with people feeling more confident and hiring some of these young people who have been ingrained in this whole thing since they were probably five or six as an athlete, and then they transitioned into coaching relatively quickly because that's their expertise. That's what they've been doing, and maybe their entire life. We've looked at it and said, well they were you know again, in Shieldhouse's case, a highly touted quarterback out of Kansas City, Missouri goes to Illinois. You know that the career ends at some point, but maybe the entire time he's preparing himself for that moment. I can promise you this. I know Sean McVay was. I remember going to you know, uptown or an old town whatever it is in Oxford, Ohio, and him be on the football team and being around and seeing like some of the guys who were on the team during that time. I mean he was even younger than me, but I remember like going to see my high school sweeter at the time and you'd see that stuff and you're like, all right, that guy's got a stuff together.

00:35:00
Speaker 1: He looked like, oh god, no, don't.

00:35:03
Speaker 4: We're not going there. But the point is that talking about the real probably more common than we realize. I see, this is why can't even brings stuff up.

00:35:12
Speaker 1: It's a Toledo rocket.

00:35:16
Speaker 4: Cavin brings stuff up.

00:35:19
Speaker 3: Hey ways, he looked like you because that was I'm not finished yet. That was I'm not finished yet, Q. What what's the stat on the Super Bowl? Bro?

00:35:29
Speaker 1: All right?

00:35:29
Speaker 7: So actually I have the three youngest head coaches. The youngest was not Mike McDonald's number three. There was actually McVeagh at thirty six, young thirty six, and then the second was Tomlin almost turning thirty seven.

00:35:41
Speaker 1: He was late thirty six and what what was McDonald? McDonald was thirty eight years Okay, it's an old ass. Okay, dang the.

00:35:50
Speaker 4: Nerve of hell.

00:35:51
Speaker 2: So so McVeigh had a rep back then, old man. So Sean McVay had a reputation even back then to where people identify it.

00:36:00
Speaker 4: This is a guy there similar to Shielhouse. He was a great high school player. He got his opportunity in college and it ended there. But that you know, he was looked at as kind of a young, bright mind.

00:36:10
Speaker 2: M And if shield House does get hired away, the Rams are going to get compensatory picks as well too.

00:36:17
Speaker 3: Really yeah, so where's he going? Who's he's just getting? Nay, he's going to go to Cincinnati and he's going to go coach Joe Burrow, and that's going to keep Joe Burrow and they're going to save it.

00:36:30
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, Zach Taylor, former McVeigh disciple. Here it is so I.

00:36:35
Speaker 4: Would say that. I mean the Jets. It feels like there's some a little bit ready on the wall there.

00:36:42
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, does he want to do that? At what point does it become do I want to do that? They're approaching that territory for real. I know there's only thirty two of them, but there should be only thirty one. Like we're being honest, the Jets should get swapped out for a CFL team, Like, that's the least you could do for the reckless accusations for the curling team cheating. The least you could do is swap the Jets out for a CFL team. Give them the rough Riders. Aren't the Saskatchewan rough Riders still in existence, but bring the rough Riders to the AFC East.

00:37:15
Speaker 2: Enough's enough, Well, you guys got to get it together, man, seriously, just.

00:37:20
Speaker 1: Turn me with you c.

00:37:24
Speaker 3: Trying to do I'd even do it if it was the Jets.

00:37:27
Speaker 4: I don't think we're bringing Jonas.

00:37:29
Speaker 3: I think we should just because he really would keep knowing the morale of the building high, I'm not interested good cops, bad cops, you know what I mean?

00:37:40
Speaker 1: Like, I think it will work out really well.

00:37:43
Speaker 3: I think guys would bond well with Joe if Jonahs decided to be this Jonas if Jonahs decided to be I'm going to go walk I don't want to meet anyone. I'm not going to the walkthrough, Like if he decided to be that guy.

00:37:56
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how it turns out.

00:37:57
Speaker 4: But can I see something then for the next segment. I we typically do in case you missed it, but I do feel like there's something else that's warranted. Okay, please, someone's got to complain, all right? Someonould like to question something or or voice a complaint that they have with something that's kind of, I don't know, revolutionize our lifestyle. Oh, I'm not gonna say who that member is on the show. On the show, on the show, we need to hear this complaint.

00:38:22
Speaker 1: It's not me and that's next. Hey.

00:38:26
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00:38:40
Speaker 3: Sounds like somebody's butt. It is two pros and a cup of Joe.

00:38:48
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00:38:55
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00:39:05
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00:39:06
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00:39:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, go ahead and you got the floor, buddy.

00:39:50
Speaker 1: You have the floor.

00:39:51
Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, so this is you were right about something. Amazon has been revolutionary, Like it's changed the way people operate, rate, the way they move, the way they shop, like all of that stuff. You can watch, you know, NFL games on Amazon Prime. Watched a little bit of the Celtics Warriors last night on Amazon Prime. Also the Pistons and Nicks. By the way, Kate Cunningham legitimate MVP contender. That's a whole nother story. But Amazon's been great. Amazon's got a problem, and there's been some speculation. There's been some speculation that Bezos might be one of the people interested in buying the Seahawks now that they are going to go out for sale. And I just don't know how he's going to afford it, but I do know how he could afford it. Stop putting tiny items in giant boxes. Okay, enough's enough, and don't take that where you want to take it, LeVar, Okay, just enough's enough. I don't need to order Okay, yeah, absolutely I don't.

00:40:56
Speaker 1: But those are equal. You leave her out of this. Oh no, but I don't need I don't.

00:41:03
Speaker 2: Need a giant box that you could that you could put a casket in when I'm ordering two or three tiny items, and then they make up for it by throwing in the paper or the squishy stuff, the stuff.

00:41:16
Speaker 1: That the air at the airpops. Yeah, like the AirPods.

00:41:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, enough's enough. You're wasting money with this garbage. They can't get the packaging right. That's my one problem with Amazon. When they send you stuff, they never get the packaging right. The math is off and somebody needs to figure it out.

00:41:32
Speaker 4: What box?

00:41:34
Speaker 1: What's the list?

00:41:37
Speaker 3: Uh?

00:41:37
Speaker 4: Do you not think Amazon's smarter than you genus? Apparently not, No, because don't you think they have standardized shipping and boxes and everything else. Like it's cheaper for them to probably have the same sized box even though your item is much smaller, than for them to have a litany of other smaller boxes that they can't fit as much in. That's one of the reasons why when you go buy stuff on Amazon, they try to get you to put multiple items into one box.

00:42:03
Speaker 1: Okay, it's better to look smart than to be smart. Tang and this out.

00:42:08
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, I think Amazon knows what they're doing. I think your complaint is what it's.

00:42:14
Speaker 2: A I guarantee you that I guarantee you people listening to this right now you're going you know what, that's a great point. Like I ordered a tube of toothpaste. It came in something you would put a big screen TV in.

00:42:23
Speaker 1: Why for what?

00:42:24
Speaker 4: Here's part of your issue is you should order more in bulk because you're getting to get a better price parounce, which is actually saving you money. So instead of being a cheap ass thinking that you're buying one tube of toothpaste and it's going to save you money, you should buy six where you get a better discount or price parounce because it's going to last for the next year.

00:42:41
Speaker 1: You spoke.

00:42:44
Speaker 2: Spoken like somebody who doesn't have to break down the boxes each week, spoken like somebody who doesn't have to do that yet.

00:42:49
Speaker 4: All right, you really want to make it on a Tank's that's the issue with Amazon. Okay, if you're so smart Amazon, why don't you find a box that I don't have to use box cutters and figure out how to shove into my recital? Then and I both wait, is that just a man's job? Like it is no one ever else responsible for in the house breaking down boxes. I mean, we're not ordering all the stuff they got this new, and I don't know why. Every time I walk to my front door and I see a package, I'm like, oh, maybe it's for me, like someone ever got me something or surprised me. Of course, of course it's not for me. You know, it's for me. The box that I have to break down, shove as much as I can to recycling bin, try to find a way of sneaking throughout the night to shove more of the boxes and other people's recycling bins. Sometimes I'm going like half a mile down the street just to shove these boxes and side recycling.

00:43:36
Speaker 3: Right when you think that box is yours, something else coming. I don't get you guys gifts. I don't do gifts and all that stuff. I'm not into it because it's just I can't confirm that it's not my thing. But I'm getting you guys a gift this year, and I know exactly I'm telling you. I wanted to tell y'all what it is, but I'm gonna wait. Okay, I want to give.

00:43:54
Speaker 1: It to you guys.

00:43:55
Speaker 2: You told me during the break, what does your wife do that she goes red you acted yesterday?

00:44:02
Speaker 3: So she orders groceries and instead of them bringing them in bags. They bring them in boxes. Now they bring your groceries, they deliver them in boxes. So because we got too many boxes come into the house. She takes the groceries out and gives the box back to the person who delivered them.

00:44:22
Speaker 1: And up until the other day, everybody takes them back. The dude.

00:44:27
Speaker 3: The dude the other day was like, no, I'm not taking that box, not taking your box back.

00:44:33
Speaker 4: So I was like, so, how did you handle that? I've never thought to try that.

00:44:37
Speaker 1: I think that was I was like, how did they handle that?

00:44:40
Speaker 2: She was like, they said, but before they leave, just you know, open it up real quickly, be like here, can you grab this?

00:44:46
Speaker 1: She tells them. She tells them to wait.

00:44:48
Speaker 4: She tells me the cardboards smell better, smells like craps.

00:44:52
Speaker 3: Well, you know, that's what attracts the roaches in the rats is the boxes.

00:44:56
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know what's it.

00:44:58
Speaker 3: I mean, there's got one while somebody's pushing me or something in the box, you know, and that's what attracts that's the smell.

00:45:05
Speaker 1: You're smelling.

00:45:07
Speaker 3: Good box talk here on the show. I know what I'm getting off for Christmas. Man, I'm gonna do it this year. I want to get you all gift