RHOA Season 6 Exclusive

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Speaker 1: I have all this pressure on me, being the first black man to do this show in this big role, and I knew that if I fucked this up, I more than likely will have fucked it up for any black man to come behind me.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: We'll get in to my opinions on the Real house by the Atlanta season six right after these quick ass Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten years of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. So today's episode of Reality with the King is not going to be a recap episode. We are going to cover the Real Housewives of Atlanta Season six. Yes, the season that you guys want me to talk about so much, the highest rated season ever in Bravo history, the most talked about season ever in terms of the Royal Housewives franchise, and yes, the first season where I was the.

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Speaker 2: Executive producer of the show Hey rain Drops.

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Speaker 1: So today's episode of Reality with the King, I am going to talk about the most requested topic that you my have been requesting even before I started the podcast, but definitely after I announced that I was doing a podcast, The Real Housewives of Atlanta season six, as Time Magazine put it, the greatest season of all time. So recently, Time Magazine did this amazing feature about the fifty best seasons of reality television in history, and The Real Housewives of Atlanta Season six was on the list.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Now, the reason why this season is so special to you guys is because, I mean, honey, it's the best season of every show on Bravo, So of course it's the best season of the Real Housewives franchise that ever existed on Earth.

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Speaker 2: Honey. That's why, y'all. But it's also.

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Speaker 1: Special to me because it's the first season where I was the executive producer of the Real Housewives.

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Speaker 2: So I know all of you want to get all the behind the scenes t about that season. I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: And the episode we titled Pillow Talk where Nimi Monique Johnson leaks once removed. Yes, Hodie Pillow Talk, where you know she had this amazing pajama Jammy jam and things went a little Craig Cray and all of you want me to give y'all my POV about what happened that faithful knight in Atlanta, Georgia. Okay, so I'm going to talk about that, but first I would like to get into what mad the Real Housewives of Atlanta Season six not only the highest rated season Bravo history, but also what made it great. In order for you guys to understand that, I have to take get a step back. So, as you know, my rain drops, I've been a part of the Real Housewives of Atlanta since season one. I was an associated producer and again my job was responsible for the housewives I was assigned to. So season one, as you all know, it was Nini Leaks and Deshaun Snow. And then season two, I was an associate producer again and I was a sign of course Nini Leaks, but they also give your boy Kim Zoziak. Imagine a producer having Nimi and Kim the same season at the same damn time. That's a whole other episode for a whole nother day. Anyways, fast forward to season four. Okay, so season four, I was the supervising producer, so I got a promotion and I was so happy because.

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Speaker 2: I felt like, Okay, you deserve this, you deserve this. You're great, you know.

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Speaker 1: You put in work. Carlos King like, you know, like this is it for you, This is it. And then season five came rolling around, and at this point in my career, I wanted to have a different experience. I did not want to be known as like just the Real Housewives of Atlanta producer. You know, yes, I did two seasons of New Jersey Housewives, but I was always a part of the Atlanta franchise. And because I'm such a creative person, I just wanted a different experience. So I did not do season five of the Real Housewives of Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I left.

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Speaker 1: I completed season four, and I went on to do another show, Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Now, prior to.

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Speaker 1: That, I was the executive producer of Niini Leak's wedding special. But I said to myself, Okay, let me do the wedding special and then, you know, let me go figure out other things. So a company, a production company reached out to me and said, we have this show called Blood, Sweat and Heels.

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Speaker 2: It was taped to New York City.

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Speaker 1: About a group of black women in New York City who were entrepreneurs, friends for the most part, but also just really about.

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Speaker 2: Their business acumen.

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Speaker 1: So I received the presentation tape while I was filming Niani Leak's Wedding Special, and at that time I was like, Okay, well, maybe after I complete Niani Leak's Wedding Special, I'll go ahead, and you know, I'll figure out something else. So when season six came back around, I was told by the production company and the network that they wanted to offer me the Covenant executive producer position on the Real House Spots of Atlanta. Little did they know, I was watching this Blood, Sweat and Hills presentation tape and I was like, hmm, this could be interesting. It's an opportunity for me to work on a brand new show with a group of successful black women in New York City, a city that I used to live in at the time. So I felt like, okay, I could do this. Melissa Ford was a part of the cast. She and I worked together when I worked at Bet. You had Demitra Lucas who was a part of the cast. She and I knew each other just by you know, running the streets in New York City, you know, going to entertainment events and parties. So I was like, yo, I can really make Bluss sweat and heels like that girl, Like this is a challenge for me, Like I could do it.

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Speaker 2: But then this is the gag of gagg gag gay gags.

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Speaker 1: So everybody wanted me to do the Real Housepots of Atlanta, even my agent over at CAA, who is still my agent today, he said, Carlos King, every single producer in the world wants to be the executive producer of the Real Hotspots of Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: And here you are. They are pretty much handing you the job.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to interview for it, you don't have to do anything besides show up because they understand the history that you have with these women and they really want to be able to let you take on this new legacy. And the word that kept using was looking for you to revolutionize this franchise. And because of your long relationships with these women, we all feel like you can do it. And guys, I wasn't sold on it. I was like, nah, I really am checking for these bloods and Hill's girls, and I don't know. I just want to do something different. And I told my agent, I said, you know what, I just don't want to be known as the guy who can only do housewives like I want to be able to like spread my wings and fly right. So one thing that everybody who knows me knows about.

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Speaker 2: Me is I don't like being told what to do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a that's a characteristic of mine.

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Speaker 2: I don't like being told what to do.

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Speaker 1: So my agent knew that and he said, look, I know you don't like being told what to do.

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Speaker 2: So that's my advice.

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Speaker 1: But think about it because the network is expecting an answer from you. So I will never forget this. So if you guys follow me, you know I'm very spiritual. I pray to God multiple times a day. And I took a few days to think about it, and I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I was just I was conflicted. I was really conflicted.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love the girls and I love the show, but I just wanted a different experience.

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Speaker 2: So I will never forget this.

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Speaker 1: I was at a John Legend concert at the Fox Theater in Atlanta, and my agent called me and said, tomorrow we have to give an answer to the Network and the production company on whether or not you're going to be the executive producer of the Real Housewilds of Atlanta Season six.

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Speaker 2: So he calls me. I leave the theater.

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Speaker 1: I walk over to the concession stand, got me some popcornch because I'm so dramatic, and I call him back and I asked him, I said, what do you think I should do?

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Speaker 2: And he said, well, we all know you don't like being told what to do.

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Speaker 1: I said, I know, I know, I know, but listen, you're my agent. Your job is to give me some great advice. What do you think he said, Carlos King, you are being handed this job. If you do this job, and you do a great job, it will change your life forever. Yes, blud Swinn and Hills looks like a great show. I get it. It's also a new show that doesn't have an audience yet. So you can either take the risk of hopping on something new, or you can take the job that at Rea sing Goal executive producer wants, because everybody in the business knows if you can do Atlanta Housewives, Oh baby, the floodgates of opportunities are going to open for you. And I said, okay, I said, call them tomorrow and let them know I'm gonna do it, and he said okay, And that's how I became the executive producer of the Real Housewives.

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Speaker 2: Of Atlanta Season six. So here I am, guys, I'm on to high like yes, like okay, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: A week later after I said yes to the drass, after I said yes to producing the show, I get a phone call that Kenya Moore was not going to return to the show. And Baby, I gagged, gagged because a part of me was like, let's be clear. I did the first four seasons, so I know the rest of the cast. But because I did not produce season five, Kenya Moore was that girl and I wanted a taste of that action. So to hear that Kenya Moore was not going to come back, I'm like, I've been bamboozled, Like is there.

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Speaker 2: Season six without Kenya? What's going on here? So I was nerve.

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Speaker 1: This so much, so your boy had to fly out to Los Angeles during the BET Awards. Yes, I had to fly out to Los Angeles to meet with Kenya at Maestros in Beverly Hills, and if you know anything about Maestros, it's like the most expensive steakhouse in all of California. So yes, Kenya has expensive taste. So I was told, please take Kenya out to dinner and see if you can.

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Speaker 2: Talk to her, to try to see if she can come back.

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Speaker 1: So I sit across from this icon, this legend, the moment, and I'm from Detroit and in Detroit, Michigan, where Kenya's also from. She is truly like the biggest star in Detroit, next to Diana Ross. Like Kenya is huge. She's a very big deal in Detroit. So here i am sitting across from a hometown hero. I'm like, yes, like this is fantastic, and I'm like, Kenya, I only came back for you, like we have to work together. So Kenya was just you know, listen Kenya's first season on season five.

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Speaker 2: Again, I don't work on season five.

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Speaker 1: Kenya felt that her first season, you know, that's when social media started to become big and she received a lot of you know, shade and just conversation about her behavior, and she had a very very very rough season. It was her first season, and I promised her I said, look, if you come back to the show, I promised that I'll hold your hand through this process and we'll get through this together.

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Speaker 2: I got you, but I need you, like girl, I need you.

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Speaker 1: So she said, yes, honey, that's all I needed to hear, Like, Okay, I got Kenya Moore. Season six is about to be a litt eation, so I have all this pressure to make sure again, Carlos, you have to revolutionize this season. Okay, we're depending on you. And not only that, I knew at that time that I was going to be the first black man to ever executive produce a Real Housewives franchise in general, And one thing about black people when we're younger, we're always told like, you gotta work twice as hard as your white kind of parts because we don't have the same opportunities as them.

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Speaker 2: And one thing.

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Speaker 1: That is like a code in the black community. If you're the first at something, you don't want to be the last, right, So one thing we always say is if you're the first black person at something and you do a bad job, we're always like, see you mess it up with all the other black people behind you, because now they're not going to hire another black person. So again that's just stuff that we think about as black people. So I have all this pressure on me, being the first black man to do this show in this big role, and I knew that if I fucked this up, I more than likely will have fucked it up for any black man to come behind me. And again, it's not something that I was told. This is something that inherently in the black culture, we think about in our community when we are at a certain level in our respective careers. It's something we think about as any successful black person.

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Speaker 2: We all think that way and still do.

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Speaker 1: So I have all this pressure on me, and I just want to make sure that I did a great job. So courtesy of me having a relationship with the housewives, I knew that if I just set them down and say, look, let's make a great season. I'm all about personal story. Yes, it's cute to throw shade and for all that stuff, but that is not what's going to make people tune in week to week. I want this season to be the season where people are on the edge of their seats because they are getting personal story from you, ladies. No one cares about the booty implants, allegations, No one cares about you know, I read you like, no one cares about that, Like that's a cute moment that can go viral, But the way I produce, I'm like, no, we have to talk about real life issues. So I remember talking to Faedrian Apollo, like, y'all gotsa start talking about what's really happening in this household. It can just be these funny sayings here and there, like, no, let's really get down to the root of the issue that you two are facing in y'all marriage. And Faedra understood the assignment and she killed it in a sense of being honest and being open. That scene where Fadra and Apollo had dinner and Apollo made these crazy allegations about Kenya coming to his hotel and the y'all remember when Phedra had her steak knife, ah, and she gave you a good old Glenn close moment from Fatal Traction, honey, where she had that.

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Speaker 2: Knife looking at Apollo.

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Speaker 1: It says something along the lines of I can cut her throat right now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's the stuff that I knew was.

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Speaker 1: Going to resonate to a large audience black white Asian Latina wherever I knew that that sort of story was going to be rich in value for the audience.

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Speaker 2: It's getting good, and you know, I hate to.

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Speaker 1: Interrupt, but I'll be right back after these quick ads. This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into my opinions on the Reyal House spots of Atlanta season six. Season six was also this season where Porsche then Stewart, was going through the divorce proceedings with the Cordell and I enjoyed Porsche her first season, which was also season five. I remember talking to the producers because as I was in the conversation of doing nine Leek's wedding special and preparing for that, they asked me.

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Speaker 2: If I could help around with the season five reunion.

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Speaker 1: Now, mind you, I didn't produced season five, but they felt like, okay, hey, look, you know these girls.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to get you to come back for.

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Speaker 1: Season six, honey, so why not just help produce the reunion for season five. So I was there for that, and I remember talking to the executives and saying like, oh, I love Porsche, because there were conversations about whether or not Porsche should come back, and I was like hey, as somebody who did not work on season five, and I actually, you know, watched the season, so I'm on the outside looking in. I think Porsche is just getting started. I said, I don't think Porsche has truly shown everything she is, and I am fascinated with Porsche, and I'm like, I really do think we all should give Porsche a chance, you know, if I come and.

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Speaker 2: Produce season six, like, I want Porsche back too.

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Speaker 1: I just think there's something about her, this innocense she has in those beautiful brown eyes that I'm like, I don't know, there.

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Speaker 2: Is something about I just think we should give her another chance.

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Speaker 1: I was fighting for Porsche and Honey Porscha gave Porsia gave it her interviews Porsia when she said, I'm talking woman, a woman referring to her ex baby.

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Speaker 2: Girl. I was here for all of Porsche.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that she was going through this very tumultuous divorce at a very bad time in her life.

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Speaker 2: It was real and that was the thing.

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Speaker 1: It was like, I kept telling the producers, like, Honey, follow Porsche.

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Speaker 2: Wherever she goes, because we are following a woman who's going through this divorce to a public figure.

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Speaker 1: And we have to see that Porscha had more scenes tap than anybody because Porsche was unraveling right before our eyes. And because Porscha is so great, she allowed us to documented every step of the way.

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Speaker 2: Every step of the way.

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Speaker 1: Portion was phenomenal season six, like everything everything, It was so real and so raw and so relatable.

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Speaker 2: And then we get to pillow talk, Yes, pillow talk.

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Speaker 1: So one thing about Nimi, who is also a ghost producer and yes, a forced multiplier.

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Speaker 2: Haha, yes, Nini leaks.

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Speaker 1: Nimi pitched this idea of having a pajama party with the cast.

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Speaker 2: And remember her and Greg just got back together.

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Speaker 1: I did the wedding special, and I want to say a week after Nini got married, we started taping season six in Atlanta Housewives, so her and Greg was in this honeymoon phase and Nini was like, look, I really want to invite the cast to have, you know, this pajama party. We're gonna call it Pillo talk because it's an opportunity for us to get to know the couples in a very sexy way. And she said, Carlos is such a fun time, we should do it. And I'm like, okay, let's do it. So we have Monique Monique. So my Nique was married to Chuck and Chuck went to school with Phaedra and Nini and Athens. So invited my Nique and Chuck, and then we also invited R and B star Christopher Williams.

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Speaker 2: Don't wake me, I'm dreaming, Yes, Christopher Williams. I love a song.

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Speaker 1: So we had Christopher Williams and his wife Natalie because my thing was, well, Honey, I want to see all the couples, not just the peach holders and their husbands. I want to see all the couples because my biggest thing was Natalie, and my Nique was so integrated into the women's business that Chuck and Christopher Williams was also integrated, not only in the men's business, but the women's business too, And I wanted season six to be more about the couples and less about just the cattiness.

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Speaker 2: With the girl.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're going to get that just by circumstance. But I want this season to be where the men have a voice. And that's when you saw for the first time the men were doing interviews and I remember sitting down with again Peter Todd Apollo, Greg may he rest in peace, and the rest of the guys like Yo, I really want you all to have a voice. Y'all are going to film more this season. I'm going to make sure that you guys are involved as much as possible, because that's just how couples are.

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Speaker 2: Couples are involved in each other's businesses, period.

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Speaker 1: So I knew this pillow Talk event was going to be interesting because I wanted the men to have a voice.

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Speaker 2: What I did not know is that a big brawl was going to happen. I was not ready for that. I was not prepared for that. It was a very long night.

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Speaker 1: We were at a hotel suite in a Anta and what you guys saw was maybe what twenty minutes if that of the event.

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Speaker 2: We were there for like three to four hours. It was a very, very, very long night.

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Speaker 1: Nini was not happy because Kenya was late and this season there was something interesting going on.

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Speaker 2: With the Battle of the Force Multipliers.

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Speaker 1: Nini and Kenya had this very interesting relationship. You know, it started off with them being frenemies because remember in the season premiere of season six, that's when Cynthia had this white party.

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Speaker 2: Kenya felt slighted that.

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Speaker 1: Nini would invite her ex boyfriend Walter to the wedding, and that's when Niini told Kenya, no bitch is going to tell me who and who I cannot invite honey, right, And yeah, that whole thing happened. But then Nimi and Kenya made up immediately, and that's when Nimi was trying to get Kenya back integrated with the group. So on this night at the hotel, Kenya was late. I think she had to fly back to La a few days before that. Her flight came in late. She had to go home and change her lingerie attire because everybody had to wear lingerie and pajamas, and Nimi was irritated.

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Speaker 2: She was very, very irritated.

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Speaker 1: And for me, I'm like, Okay, this is when it's less about her being late, and I think it's more so about the fact that who does Kenya think she is that she gets to walk into any event late. We're all housewives, we're all here, we all came in on time. Why does Kingya get to be late? But Ya's defense her flight, you know, landed lay and she has to go change clothes. But again, that's when as a producer, I was like, this has nothing to do with me, and it has everything to do with this fight for position of who's the star of the show. Let's just be let's just be real. See the six was all about who is a star Kenya or Nini, And you can ask any housewife that season that pull up talk fight was more so about who is the star of season six?

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Speaker 2: Period? Point in the blank. And yes, I said what I said.

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Speaker 1: I felt that Niini and Kenya's biggest issue have more to do with like, who's the queen of the show? Period, And that attitude, I would say, spilled out into the scene.

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Speaker 2: So when Kenya walked in, what y'all didn't see was Nini was very irritated, like very irritated because she.

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Speaker 1: Wanted to, of course, make sure that the event started off right and rightfully.

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Speaker 2: So and I get it. I've hosted parties before.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who's late, it does irritate you because it's sort of like, well, bitch, who are you to be late to my party?

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Speaker 2: So I understood what Nini was going through.

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Speaker 1: So Kenya walks in and baby when Nimi Monique Johnson Leaks once removed slammed the door in Kenya's face, and then Kenya open up the door and said hey, and Nini goes, hey, bitch, and then Kenya goes, you look fabulous, and then Nini goes, you don't. At then Kenya goes, oh, honey, I always look fabulous, and Nini goes, you think you look fabulous, but you really don't.

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Speaker 2: And me and the producers were laughing.

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Speaker 1: Our bus saw off because nothing to me is more funny than seeing two people go at it in a comical way, and that's the beauty of that show.

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Speaker 2: It was always fun shade that made me gigly like. I like fun shape because I think.

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Speaker 1: You have to have a certain level of knowledge and intelligence and personality to not go dark but to do fun shade. Oh baby, sign me up for fun shake.

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Speaker 2: All day long. I loved it. So all the other housewives knew at that moment this is going to be a very long night.

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Speaker 1: So as Kinga got settled and Nini complimented her big titties, as she called it, Nini played a game.

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Speaker 2: So let me explain this.

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Speaker 1: Because Nini waited hours for Kenya to arrive, the game that Needi wanted to play was stalled, so when Kinga came with her friend Brandon.

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Speaker 2: She wanted to make sure that the couples could play the game.

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Speaker 1: So the game had to do with these random questions about couples, what you can do, what you cannot do. And then all of a sudden, it became a parent that Kenya and Natalie plus Christopher had this weird vibe, and Nini caught the vibe and she wanted to address it because again, as the host, you want to address it.

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Speaker 2: And I get that because I'm a host of a podcast, a late night show and reunions. So yes, as a host, your job is to ask questions. So that's what Nini was doing. And let's be clear, Nini was doing her job period.

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Speaker 1: So we did not know that Nini calling out the weird vibe between Christopher, Natalie and Kenya would involve Kenya, who used an epic line, an epic clap back to Natalie when Natalie said, oh, Kenya, don't back pedal, and Kenya got up out of her seat and said, oh baby, this isn't back pedaling, it's front pedaling. Yes, come on, word Smith, that's how you. Clara, who yes, loved it, loved it?

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Speaker 2: Who says that, honey, this isn't back pedaling, it's front pedaling. I love everything about it. It was just juicy, funny and just it was everything.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So when Kenya got up out of her seat, we didn't think that, okay, a big fight would break out.

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Speaker 2: None of us saw that coming, period. None of us saw that coming.

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Speaker 1: So we were all surprised that Kenya getting up out of her seat where her friend Brandon was obviously defending his girl, would result in Peter trying to constrain Brandon and Brandon is there to defend his sister, and then Apollo stepped in and tried to diffuse the situation. And I think because Brandon was obviously being touched by two men, he didn't know what was going on, and he's pushing back, and then all of a sudden, Apollo and Brandon started to fight, which was super weird. And that's when all the producers left the control room that we were having in another room.

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Speaker 2: In the suite and tried to diffuse it. We did not see this coming.

00:32:46
Speaker 1: We were all gagged and surprised and like, what the fuck is happening? Like this isn't what we thought was going to happen. And to see Apollo have multiple punches thrown at Brandon and to see how we were all trying to defuse it.

00:33:06
Speaker 2: It was like, oh my gosh, what is happening here?

00:33:09
Speaker 1: And as the executive producer of the show, I want to make sure that everybody was safe.

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Speaker 2: So we all just like if you watch it, we're all just holding people.

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Speaker 1: So when you see these random people holding the house, wasn't cast members and you see Chuck hiding behind my Nique, we're just trying to make sure that everything's okay.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 1: Like we're not trying to do anything, like we're trying to defuse it. But we also know that we're shooting a show, so the camera guys kept documenting it as they should. They're there to document everything that's happening. So we were focused, and when I say we, I mean the producers. We were focused on making sure that Brandon and Apollo were separated and that was it for us. There was a conversation that the cast members had with me, Carlos King, and they were like, we don't want to be fighting on this show.

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Speaker 2: And I'm speaking to myself and I said this after I.

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Speaker 1: Thought about it, because I do speak my mind. I said to them, Oh, I know, y'all ain't about to blame me for this. Y'all got me fucked up if you think for a second I'm responsible for grown people acting this way, like stop it, are you kidding me? Well, you know, we just ain't used to this, And I said, and I am. I did the first four seasons. I ain't used to the shit either. I'm used to Charae locking Nannie out the gate, you know, and she can't get into her party.

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Speaker 2: Honey.

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Speaker 1: Now I am used to Charae shifting Kim's wig, but I'm not used to this brawl, like, don't play me. But it was a conversation where we all just felt the need to just sit down and reflect on, like, okay, what happened? Because one thing, when you are involved in any intense situation, you want to get down to the root of it. And I think just by listen, let's just be real. I don't think any of them wanted to take responsibility for what happened. As we saw in the later episodes, nobody wanted to take responsibility for it. So of course you had cast members blaming cast members. You have people, of course blaming producers, because again, God.

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Speaker 2: Forbid something happens. Chiad is the producer's fault. Yeah, boring.

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Speaker 1: It was more about the fact that people had an issue with each other, and it is debatable that if Kenya did not get out of her seat, would all of this have happened. That was such a debate that a historically black college in Atlanta had this topic of discussion in one of their media classes. Okay, a professor at an HBCU in Atlanta who taught media studies, we learned that she had the topic of the day be who's responsible for pillow Talk?

00:36:05
Speaker 2: Fight, Nimi or Kenya Baby?

00:36:08
Speaker 1: If that ain't epic, I mean the fact that that scene was discussed at the college level is. It's just amazing to me because it goes to show you that it has less to do about oh, let's point fingers about it. It had everything to do about human behavior and social circumstances. And that to me is why, Yes, listen, people like to see a train wreck, and I get that, but I think the reason why Pillow Talk is the highest rated episode of season six, in addition to how some people will always call that the best reality scene in history, is because it was more about the scenarios that took place and truly who was responsible for it. It's sort of like a Shonda Rhyme scandal moment, right where you're sort of like, here's the evidence, here's what the prosecution is saying, here's what the defendants are saying, and this is what really happened. You know, is there a shadow of a doubt that as a part of human nature to really blame somebody for something, because that's just the world we live in now. As someone who was there, I truly don't blame one person. I think what happened was you had a room full of couples and some of these people did not get along, and obviously Kenya and Natalie were not seeing eye to eye, and Christopher Williams was trying to defend his wife, Brandon was trying to defend his best friends slash sister, and then I think everybody's, you know, emotions were just heightened because of that. I still don't understand why Apollo and Brandon got into that brawl. I don't know if Apolla felt that Brandon and defending himself, hit him the wrong way or got a punch in. I don't know, but it really did show you that anything can happen. And the beauty of that moment to me is the fact that.

00:38:21
Speaker 2: It happened.

00:38:22
Speaker 1: We had one conversation, meaning the housewives and the men. They had one conversation about it. Afterwards. Remember when the next episode when they were in the nel salon and Kenya and Nini got into it about responsibility, but they talked about it, and guys, we.

00:38:43
Speaker 2: Never brought it up again. That was it. That was it, because we have more shit to do.

00:38:53
Speaker 1: That to me will always be the beauty of pillow talk is the fact that it was. It was a very dark moment, but we did not allow that moment to define the rest of the season. And when I look at certain shows where every episode they do a pillow talk child meaning a fight happens and it's the main story for the entire season, I'm happy that those six peach holders and their husbands were able to talk about it, address it, and move on. And that's why Season six will forever go down in history as the best season in Atlanta Housewives history and the history of the franchise, because we had a lot of story to tell, and that's what I do miss about the show. Where you have multiple personal stories that were relatable to a massive audience. My hope is that as we reflect on the amazing season six of the Royal Hospitals of Atlanta, where Time magazine called it one of the top fifty best seasons and reality TV history, I hope that we all can see why, and it's my hope that the show can get back to that. It was so fun going back down memory lane with you guys, and I hope it was all worth the wait. Yes to recap that very epic season was such a joy, And I gave you all the tea about pillow talk, but I want to hear from you guys, So tweet me hashtagging Reality with the King and let me know what's your favorite moment from C and six And don't forget you can watch the Real housewatchs of Atlanta every Sunday night, eight o'clock Suncentrol on Bravo. Reality with the King is a production of More Sauce by Stitcher. It is executive produced by Me, Carlos King, and Jazmine Henley Brown. We are also produced by Lashik Lotus Lee and la Portia Thomas. Additional production support by Coaren Wallace. Engineering and music by Marcus ham

00:41:34
Speaker 2: More sauce