Top 5 Worst Sequels of the 80s!

<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't
<v Speaker 1>Be Serious Podcast. We are here with another top five episode,
<v Speaker 1>and this is a little unusual because it's really a
<v Speaker 1>bottom five episode. Right.
<v Speaker 2>We don't typically like to be haters, but we don't,
<v Speaker 2>but sometimes there are movies that deserve it. That's exactly right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so you will not hear us hate on
<v Speaker 1>movies very often. When we pick movies to cover, we
<v Speaker 1>pick movies we like.
<v Speaker 2>Generally we pick winners.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Exceptions to that rule so far have been Jaws
<v Speaker 1>The Revenge versus Superman four, two movies that both came
<v Speaker 1>out the same year that were absolutely dismal for an
<v Speaker 1>otherwise impressive franchise. Then we're gonna have another couple of
<v Speaker 1>movies in the future. We're going to be teaming up
<v Speaker 1>with some friends, gonna cover Last Action Hero, which is
<v Speaker 1>a movie you walked out of I did, and then
<v Speaker 1>that versus Alien three, yes, which I don't think I
<v Speaker 1>walked out of that one, but I did walk out
<v Speaker 1>of whatever the fourth one was where she had an
<v Speaker 1>alien baby. At the alien baby scene, I was like,
<v Speaker 1>I'm done.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that here in the next
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks with the guys from the Film By podcast. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and actually we talked with them about Superman four versus
<v Speaker 2>Chara Revenge. We call it What the Heck Happened Series.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so this is our top five of what the
<v Speaker 1>heck Happened from the eighties sequels.
<v Speaker 2>Yes.
<v Speaker 1>Now important to note we recently did an episode with
<v Speaker 1>another podcast called pop Culture Yearbook. Yeah, that's right, and
<v Speaker 1>we covered the best sequels of the eighties. And the
<v Speaker 1>rules on that game were that the sequels had to
<v Speaker 1>have come out sometime between nineteen eighty and nineteen ninety nine, right,
<v Speaker 1>and it was more like a draft type of thing.
<v Speaker 1>So we had three guys from the podcasts and us too.
<v Speaker 1>So those three guys were Brad, Pete and Giff and
<v Speaker 1>we picked the best sequels of the eighties. But today
<v Speaker 1>we are going to be picking the worst sequels of
<v Speaker 1>the eighties. Yes, enjoy this episode and then go check
<v Speaker 1>out that episode we did with them again. That podcast is.
<v Speaker 2>Called pop Culture Yearbook.
<v Speaker 1>There you go. So the only rule that we are keeping, yes,
<v Speaker 1>is that the movie has to come out sometime during
<v Speaker 1>the eighties yesteen eighty to nineteen eighty nine. And again
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be like our normal top five. Jason
<v Speaker 1>has five, I have five. They might overlap, they might
<v Speaker 1>be a sequel from another franchise. I don't know. We
<v Speaker 1>will see.
<v Speaker 2>We don't know what each other's lists are.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like our other top five episodes, what we're
<v Speaker 1>going to do is we're going to drop little bread
<v Speaker 1>calms and see if we can get the other guy
<v Speaker 1>to guess what movie it is that we're talking about. Right,
<v Speaker 1>are you ready to jump in?
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to jump in. Let's do five, four, three, two,
<v Speaker 2>honorable mentioned autible mention number one. Yes, just like our
<v Speaker 2>top five lists before, exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I'm gonna let you go first. It's time.
<v Speaker 2>All right, d my number five Top five. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know how to say this the right way. So this
<v Speaker 2>is the fifth worst sequel of the eighties.
<v Speaker 1>Five.
<v Speaker 2>Now, some people are gonna fall out of their chair
<v Speaker 2>when I say this.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, this was released.
<v Speaker 2>December eleventh, nineteen eighty five. Okay, this is a sequel.
<v Speaker 2>So here's the tricky part. Part of me is like,
<v Speaker 2>that's the worst sequel I've ever seen. The other part
<v Speaker 2>of me is like, I loved the first movie and
<v Speaker 2>this was the biggest disappointment I've ever had. Okay, So
<v Speaker 2>December eleventh, nineteen eighty five, the budget on this one
<v Speaker 2>twenty five million. It made ninety six million dollars. So
<v Speaker 2>this is a hit movie.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Now, then the star of this movie tried to back
<v Speaker 2>out at the last minute.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, the other star.
<v Speaker 2>Like, there's two main people in this movie. The other
<v Speaker 2>star was the producer, and he went to the studio
<v Speaker 2>and the studio threatened to sue her for like twenty
<v Speaker 2>five million dollars if she drops out. And so the
<v Speaker 2>main male lead had to be the go between between
<v Speaker 2>his female co star and the studio to keep her
<v Speaker 2>from being sued. It was a total disaster before I
<v Speaker 2>got off the ground, any idea what I'm talking about?
<v Speaker 1>I give up?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll give you this hint.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>The best thing to come from this movie is the
<v Speaker 2>number two hit song when the Going Gets Tough by
<v Speaker 2>Billy Oshin.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know, No, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Okay. This is the sequel to Romancing the Stone. This
<v Speaker 2>movie is called Jewel of the Nile.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I.
<v Speaker 3>Got no pot Jack Coltman Chom Wild were romance and
<v Speaker 3>a new kind of stone, all the jew him up
<v Speaker 3>the nile.
<v Speaker 1>I practically got it in my hands.
<v Speaker 3>The only thing stopping me this quick shot a ripe
<v Speaker 3>and stole it with him.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, no, cass. So Kathleen Turner was like, this
<v Speaker 1>is dumb.
<v Speaker 2>I'm Kathleen Turner said. When she started to read the script,
<v Speaker 2>She's like, this sucks. I want out. And Michael Douglas
<v Speaker 2>is the producer on the movie. Yeah, And so she's
<v Speaker 2>getting ready to screw him over. And so he said, listen,
<v Speaker 2>calm down, I'll go to the studio. We'll rewrite this.
<v Speaker 2>It'll be good. So they literally sat down with three
<v Speaker 2>different scripts. He and Kathleen Turner sat down on the
<v Speaker 2>ground and they decided, okay, well keep this. No, that's out. No,
<v Speaker 2>this is in and that's out. And it was just
<v Speaker 2>a disaster. I tried to watch this last night. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>for as good, literally as good as Michael Douglas, A
<v Speaker 2>List Starr and Danny DeVito super funny, and Kathleen Turner
<v Speaker 2>beautiful at the moment they could do nothing with this
<v Speaker 2>dog around their neck.
<v Speaker 1>Really, it was awful, I guess. I mean I saw
<v Speaker 1>it in the eighties and I was a kid, so
<v Speaker 1>I just I guess I enjoyed it in the eighties.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so here's the deal. Spoiler. Okay, if you haven't
<v Speaker 2>seen Jewel the Nile, it came out forty years ago.
<v Speaker 2>The Jewel is a man, which my twelve year old
<v Speaker 2>self stood up in the theater. I'm like, what the
<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? I want my money back?
<v Speaker 2>This is bull crap. Okay, So that's my number five.
<v Speaker 2>So you don't remember that.
<v Speaker 1>One, now, I mean I don't remember the movie. I
<v Speaker 1>just remember thinking of a good movie. So okay, I
<v Speaker 1>couldn't have been alone. Obviously, there were you know, is
<v Speaker 1>ninety five million. It's not a bad showing. It's true's tough.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Michael Douglas, Danny DeVito, and Kathleen Turner
<v Speaker 2>do go on to star in One of the Roses
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty nine.
<v Speaker 1>I do remember that. I remember watching that one in
<v Speaker 1>the theater and not being impressed. Terrible, not being impressed
<v Speaker 1>at all. Yeah, okay, okay, so here we go my
<v Speaker 1>number five. The star of this particular movie is now
<v Speaker 1>pretty routinely an actor who is in pretty close to
<v Speaker 1>Christian movies. Like a lot of the you know, Christian
<v Speaker 1>pushed movies, but at the time that he made this movie,
<v Speaker 1>he was pretty well out of his mind on coke,
<v Speaker 1>as was several of the other actors in the movie. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>the actor who had played the lead in the first
<v Speaker 1>two of these movies said, Mesistopheles himself could not have
<v Speaker 1>pulled me in to make this movie. He almost didn't
<v Speaker 1>make part two. But they made Part three, and it
<v Speaker 1>was so bad that when they made Part four, which
<v Speaker 1>was also horrible, they pretended like three didn't even exist.
<v Speaker 1>It was. It was the characters became entirely different people
<v Speaker 1>with different backgrounds. It was like number three never happened.
<v Speaker 2>I know what this is. I know what it is.
<v Speaker 2>It's Jaws three, three D.
<v Speaker 1>You got it.
<v Speaker 4>With the first you were too terrified to go back
<v Speaker 4>in the water. Just when you were starting to think
<v Speaker 4>it was safe, along came the second. Now nature's most
<v Speaker 4>terrifying creature has returned in an all new adventure, Jaws three.
<v Speaker 1>This movie was the first movie I ever saw that
<v Speaker 1>I walked out of the movie, and it was not
<v Speaker 1>my doing. I didn't. I mean, I was a little kid.
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea, but my Dad was like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>come on, we're leaving, and I'm like, you could do that.
<v Speaker 1>I thought you had to watch to the end. I
<v Speaker 1>thought that was the rule.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So here's the deal. I talked to Jeff Johnson
<v Speaker 2>with the Philby podcast about this the other day. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>we've covered Jaws one, they've covered Jaws two. We together
<v Speaker 2>have covered Josh four. We have got to get together
<v Speaker 2>and talk about Joss three at some point.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, okay, So we're onto my number four.
<v Speaker 5>Four?
<v Speaker 2>All right. This movie was released November twenty first, nineteen
<v Speaker 2>eighty four. Sorry, def Dave black Eye for nineteen eighty
<v Speaker 2>four on this one, Sonya, Yes, no, it's not right.
<v Speaker 2>That was a good guess though, that was very close.
<v Speaker 1>Fifth category? Am I am I wrong? Category?
<v Speaker 2>That's true? It is not that Okay. This had a
<v Speaker 2>whopping eight percent on Rotten Tomatoes. This one two razzies
<v Speaker 2>and literally is responsible for the selling of this franchise
<v Speaker 2>to the Canon group.
<v Speaker 1>Is this Superman three?
<v Speaker 2>This is not Superman three?
<v Speaker 1>Okay?
<v Speaker 2>This is.
<v Speaker 3>A girl.
<v Speaker 6>Alexander Sulkind presents the action packed adventures of a dazzling
<v Speaker 6>new superhero, starring Peter o'too I.
<v Speaker 5>Must be sent to the phantom zone.
<v Speaker 2>They Dunaway mea Farah Venus ring ridden of a caro Mark.
<v Speaker 6>McClure, that's Clark Kent's cousin hert Buckner, and introducing Helen
<v Speaker 6>Slater as super Girl. Adventure runs in the family.
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, right of course, yes, so there you go.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and questionable whether Supergirl is worse or Superman
<v Speaker 1>four quests for peace.
<v Speaker 2>There is no question. This is worse.
<v Speaker 1>Is worse for sure?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, now listen to this. I got some tidbits for
<v Speaker 2>you on this. They Dunaway was cast as the stupid
<v Speaker 2>Witch in this movie. They wanted Dolly Parton. Demi Moore
<v Speaker 2>was almost cast as Lucy Lane in this movie. Lucy
<v Speaker 2>Lane is Lois's sister.
<v Speaker 1>Oh right right.
<v Speaker 2>Helen Slater is Supergirl. She's twenty years old. None of
<v Speaker 2>this is her fault. She has no real superpower. She
<v Speaker 2>can fly, but like she changes clothes magically and her
<v Speaker 2>hair changes colors. This makes no sense. A total dog yeah,
<v Speaker 2>absolute disaster and literally caused the Superman franchise to fall
<v Speaker 2>in the Cannon Group's hands. Wow, in which they promptly
<v Speaker 2>turned around and made Superman four, which we'll talk about.
<v Speaker 1>Here in a minute.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, all right back to you, sir.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, this one that I'm about to talk to talk
<v Speaker 1>about it was the beginning of the end for the franchise,
<v Speaker 1>but somehow it did not stop them. Okay, so still
<v Speaker 1>had as the lead, the lead from Part one and
<v Speaker 1>Part two and part three, but this was part four,
<v Speaker 1>and it was the beginning of the dismal results that
<v Speaker 1>were Part four, Part five and Part six. And you're
<v Speaker 1>gonna hurt.
<v Speaker 2>My feelings if this is what I think it is.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is the one where everybody went, Wait a minute,
<v Speaker 1>Steve Gutenberg is terrible? How did he? How's he been
<v Speaker 1>a star? How do we get him in cocoons? Oh?
<v Speaker 2>My gosh, the goots? Yeah, this is the fourth Police
<v Speaker 2>Academy movie.
<v Speaker 3>Graduates in Police Academy. I wonder to welcome all.
<v Speaker 2>Of you citizens.
<v Speaker 7>The Police Academy has offered to train you citizen here.
<v Speaker 1>You don't think I'm facked.
<v Speaker 3>You know, if any won't do you.
<v Speaker 1>To better protect yourself?
<v Speaker 3>Do we get to pack heat a car, thecho card,
<v Speaker 3>money chairs, sitting mat Jo, my dollar, sweet Chi that's it?
<v Speaker 6>And Tackleberry good idea?
<v Speaker 1>Citizens on Patrol, Citizens Cop, Citizens on Patrol, unfunny from
<v Speaker 1>beginning to end.
<v Speaker 4>It.
<v Speaker 2>I saw this in the theaters me.
<v Speaker 1>Too, and at ten years old, I thought it was hysterical.
<v Speaker 1>Go back and watching it, I was just like, what
<v Speaker 1>could I possibly have found? Funny?
<v Speaker 8>Man?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I haven't seen this since eighty seven, but
<v Speaker 2>I walked out of the theater going, that was freaking funny.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Back to me for my number three three,
<v Speaker 2>I'll eat my shoes. If you've seen this movie.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>This movie is a sequel that came out in nineteen
<v Speaker 2>eighty five to a movie that we've covered on the
<v Speaker 2>Shirley Can't Be Serious Podcast eighty five came out in
<v Speaker 2>eighty five. Okay, now listen to this. The subtitle for
<v Speaker 2>this movie is called Your Sister Is a Werewolf.
<v Speaker 1>Nope, okay.
<v Speaker 2>This stars Reb Brown, who played Captain America in the
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy nine version.
<v Speaker 3>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, you've got jud Omen who played Mickey in
<v Speaker 2>Peewee's Big Adventure, the guy who hitches a ride and
<v Speaker 2>he's running from the cops.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're gonna have to keep going, my friend, I've
<v Speaker 1>got nothing.
<v Speaker 2>This is the big dropper. For you ready for this?
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 2>It also stars Marcia Hunt, who was married to Mick Jagger.
<v Speaker 2>She's a black woman. She was the source for the
<v Speaker 2>song brown Sugar.
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 2>It also stars Sybil Danning as Queen Sturba, who is
<v Speaker 2>the Queen Werewolf. This is the Howling to Part two
<v Speaker 2>Potty Time.
<v Speaker 7>It's no rocking Shock new Way, oh hard, no howling too.
<v Speaker 3>Wow.
<v Speaker 1>I can say that I've seen parts of this, very
<v Speaker 1>specific parts.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we have to talk about that part, right,
<v Speaker 2>Sybil Danning. You don't hire for a great acting ability.
<v Speaker 2>You hire her because she has amazing boobs, right, And
<v Speaker 2>the director of this movie is like, okay, let's go top,
<v Speaker 2>let's take it off. And she's like, no, I'm not
<v Speaker 2>doing I'm tired of doing boom shots. Uh huh. And
<v Speaker 2>he's like, no, you have to. It's part of your contract.
<v Speaker 2>You gotta do it. So she said, all right, listen,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do this one time. So she rips off
<v Speaker 2>her shirt one time in the movie, and then they
<v Speaker 2>copy and paste it seventeen times in the closing credits.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, rip, rip rip.
<v Speaker 2>You have lines like I told you we'd get these fuzzballs.
<v Speaker 1>Ah, that is great.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, over to you, my good man.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're to my number three.
<v Speaker 2>You're number three, all right.
<v Speaker 1>This movie came out in nineteen eighty three, forty years ago. Okay.
<v Speaker 1>The star of this movie said that his favorite director
<v Speaker 1>to work with was the director of this movie because
<v Speaker 1>he knew how to make me look the best on screen. Okay.
<v Speaker 1>The director also had a movie came out in eighty
<v Speaker 1>three that was absolutely fantastic, that was a number three
<v Speaker 1>in the series. Okay, I don't know what it is yet.
<v Speaker 1>The director had her brother who had a song on
<v Speaker 1>the album how about you got it now?
<v Speaker 2>Uh, we queue up Frank Stallone Far from over. This
<v Speaker 2>is Staying Alive.
<v Speaker 8>Pictures presents John Travolta. You know, Robert Stigwood production, a
<v Speaker 8>Sylvester Stallone film, Staying a Lot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Sylvester Stallone John Travolta's favorite director to work
<v Speaker 1>with because Sylvester Stallone knew how to make John Travolta
<v Speaker 1>look good on the screen.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's interesting.
<v Speaker 1>What is also interesting is that this got a wopping
<v Speaker 1>four point seven on IMDb, so he couldn't have either.
<v Speaker 1>He didn't look that good or the looking good didn't
<v Speaker 1>make enough difference for such a terrible, terrible script.
<v Speaker 2>I have never seen this movie. Oh yeah, but here's
<v Speaker 2>the deal. You and I both hated Saturday Night Fever.
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, so, I mean the thing is that as
<v Speaker 1>bad as Saturday Night Fever was, this is worse. This
<v Speaker 1>is worse. Yeah. I actually when we first started watching
<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night Fever, I was like, where's the part where
<v Speaker 1>he says I'm going to go strut? It turns out
<v Speaker 1>that was my memory from watching Staying Alive and that
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen until that next movie.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, quick note on Staying Alive number one. I know
<v Speaker 2>our good buddy John Reid likes this movie.
<v Speaker 1>John Reid, who also likes Alien three.
<v Speaker 2>Exactly right. I do know that Cynthia Rhodes aka Rosanna
<v Speaker 2>and Penny from Dirty Dancing was in this movie, and
<v Speaker 2>I know that she met her husband Richard Marx on
<v Speaker 2>the set of Staying Alive.
<v Speaker 1>All right, that is very cool, now, but that's Patrick
<v Speaker 1>Swayze is in the movie Dancing in White Suspenders again
<v Speaker 1>with Cyncia and Cynthia Rhodes.
<v Speaker 2>Crazy again with Cynthia Rhods.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, exactly you know from the Toto video exactly
<v Speaker 1>in your Dreams. And also Richie Sampora is in the movie.
<v Speaker 1>He is a member of Frank Stallone's band. Whenever Tony
<v Speaker 1>Manero visits Jackie at the rehearsals at the club.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm watching this movie. Now, that's it.
<v Speaker 1>I've got to watch this movie. You dig it the most, baby,
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.
<v Speaker 2>Another movie where the best thing that came out of
<v Speaker 2>this was the song Okay, I wean know to my
<v Speaker 2>number two.
<v Speaker 1>You're number two.
<v Speaker 2>Two My number two was released August twelfth, nineteen eighty three.
<v Speaker 2>This is another movie that made me stand up in
<v Speaker 2>the theater and point and say, what the f is
<v Speaker 2>going on? This is absolute abomination.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 2>Problem with this is this was like the eighth movie
<v Speaker 2>in the series of a very successful series that you
<v Speaker 2>and I both talked about how much we like. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>the star of the series died, and this is the
<v Speaker 2>second attempt to reboot the series without him but maintaining
<v Speaker 2>the character.
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing, man, this is good. Keep going, okay, Okay.
<v Speaker 2>The star of this particular movie is another actor that
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about. He played James Bond in the eighties.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, is this the Pink Panther. This is the return
<v Speaker 1>of the Pink pant Curse of the Pink Panther, of
<v Speaker 1>the Pink Panther. That's right.
<v Speaker 5>Introducing Ted Was as a detective sergeant Clifton Slay and
<v Speaker 5>Blake Edwards Curse of the Pink Panther.
<v Speaker 1>This is my big chance, don't it?
<v Speaker 2>Where Inspector Clouseau quote unquote has plastic surgery and is
<v Speaker 2>played by a clumsy, ridiculous French accent Roger Moore.
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Well, I can tell you that what I
<v Speaker 1>remember of this movie involved grapes, yes, because that's what
<v Speaker 1>I was concerned about whenever I was a kid, was
<v Speaker 1>the naked ladies squishing the grapes with their toes.
<v Speaker 2>God was that in this one or was that in
<v Speaker 2>the previous one?
<v Speaker 8>No?
<v Speaker 1>I think that was I think that.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I do remember that scene.
<v Speaker 7>Though.
<v Speaker 2>I do know that Blake Edwards like they changed the
<v Speaker 2>release date of this movie and it violated his contract,
<v Speaker 2>and so he sued the studio and then they sued
<v Speaker 2>him and it was this big legal battle. Either way,
<v Speaker 2>it was this huge decise. How do you make two
<v Speaker 2>Pink Panther movies? Keeping in spectracluzoh and not and Peter
<v Speaker 2>Sellers is dead and buried.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's bad. It's a bad idea.
<v Speaker 2>It's insane, terrible, terrible. Okay, that's a good choice to
<v Speaker 2>your number two, sir. All right, My number two is
<v Speaker 2>a number two, okay. Came out of nineteen eighty eight.
<v Speaker 2>This might be my number one.
<v Speaker 1>I'm confident that it is.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we can we can talk together.
<v Speaker 1>Can dispense with the with the guessing. At this point,
<v Speaker 1>I am confident that this is your number one. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we can move on and go straight into your number
<v Speaker 1>one because we're at your number one, right, this is.
<v Speaker 2>Got Oh yeah, we gotta do honorable mentions, all.
<v Speaker 1>Right, so before we get to this one, which is
<v Speaker 1>my number two, go.
<v Speaker 2>Ahead, you're number one.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, We've got honorable mentions. So I'm gonna let you
<v Speaker 1>go on the honorable mentions. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>My first honorable mention D came out the summer of
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty seven. We did a whole podcast on this movie.
<v Speaker 2>This movie nearly and I mean nearly killed this franchise
<v Speaker 2>that was an American icon because this movie was so bad.
<v Speaker 2>Released in nineteen eighty seven, they ran out of money,
<v Speaker 2>and so the poor actor who we all adore in
<v Speaker 2>this role had to look really hard at the Great
<v Speaker 2>Wall of China and rebuild it.
<v Speaker 1>So this is interesting because my number two is your
<v Speaker 1>number one, and my number one is your honorable mentions. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>this is this is the question for more money. This
<v Speaker 1>is Superman.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely it is. The Canon group purchased this because
<v Speaker 2>the Salkinds got in so much trouble with Supergirl.
<v Speaker 3>Yep.
<v Speaker 2>Then they turn around and they have been hamorrhaging like
<v Speaker 2>ninety million dollars a year, so they have to cut corners.
<v Speaker 2>The budget for this Superman movie was seventeen million dollars.
<v Speaker 2>How do you make a big budget Superman movie for
<v Speaker 2>seventeen million bucks?
<v Speaker 1>You don't. You make a terrible, terrible thing.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they had a pretty good start. They had Gene Hackman,
<v Speaker 2>they had John Cryer, they had Margo Kidder. And then
<v Speaker 2>they turn around and do things like Superman is flying
<v Speaker 2>and intentionally drops Margo Kidder. It gives her our heart attack?
<v Speaker 2>Remember that?
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Uh, it's so bad. Guys, go back and check
<v Speaker 1>out our Superman four versus Jaws The Revenge.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, my second honorable mention is a part three
<v Speaker 2>to a movie that we have discussed in season one.
<v Speaker 2>This movie was literally the second biggest movie of nineteen
<v Speaker 2>seventy seven.
<v Speaker 1>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>So by the time this rolls out in the year
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty three again and the main character is not
<v Speaker 2>in this movie, it's baffling to me that somebody says,
<v Speaker 2>keep going, let's do this. So here's what they do.
<v Speaker 2>They doubled down. Excuse me, they triple down, and they
<v Speaker 2>make the Smoky the bandit also literally with no bandit's
<v Speaker 2>this is smoking the Bandit. Part three. Jerry Reid was
<v Speaker 2>the bandit.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he played. He steps into the bandit position and
<v Speaker 1>it is not a good it's not a good fit.
<v Speaker 4>No.
<v Speaker 2>In fact, he had to come in at the last
<v Speaker 2>minute because originally Jackie Gleason was playing the bandit and
<v Speaker 2>then but he was also playing the smoky and he's
<v Speaker 2>also playing like his cousin, Canadian cousin Jackie Gleason had
<v Speaker 2>multiple parts and the audience got confused, so they brought
<v Speaker 2>in Jerry Reid to play the bandit the last second.
<v Speaker 2>It was a complete disaster and they should have just
<v Speaker 2>dropped it. Okay, onto your honorable mentions.
<v Speaker 1>Sir, Okay, So this is a sea cool to a
<v Speaker 1>movie that we have talked about before. We've talked about
<v Speaker 1>the original movie before, not in a full episode context,
<v Speaker 1>but I know that I've brought it up before because
<v Speaker 1>there's a scene in the middle of that movie where
<v Speaker 1>they're in a graveyard and one of the members of
<v Speaker 1>the punk band, one of the female members played by
<v Speaker 1>incredible actress Lena Quigley, who seems to lose her clothes
<v Speaker 1>in quite a horror movies, gun Blisser manages to lose
<v Speaker 1>her clothes in this movie as well. As she's stripping
<v Speaker 1>to song, somebody's playing out of a boombox in the cemetery.
<v Speaker 1>And I think I brought this up because I was
<v Speaker 1>literally at the Vinyl record store and this song starts
<v Speaker 1>playing over the pa and I'm like, no, this song.
<v Speaker 1>Where do I know this song from? And the guy's like,
<v Speaker 1>you know it from Return of the Living Dead And
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, yeah, I've only seen that one part.
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yep, that's the same part that everybody else
<v Speaker 1>has seen. But that Return of the Living Dead was
<v Speaker 1>not a bad movie. I mean, it's a seven point three.
<v Speaker 1>It's a good movie. The Return of the Living Dead
<v Speaker 1>Part two five point seven came out in nineteen eighty eight,
<v Speaker 1>and it is a dismal, dismal follow up. Oh man,
<v Speaker 1>could have been a pretty good series of movies.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Okay, that's good. I've never seen that one. Nineteen
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight. Huh yep, thirty five years ago.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't bother with part two. Just go back to
<v Speaker 1>part one which came out, and go back to part one,
<v Speaker 1>which came out in eighty five. The perfect time to have,
<v Speaker 1>you know, punk heads stripping in a cemetery. Okay, okay,
<v Speaker 1>this one is for you, sir.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is your second honorable mention.
<v Speaker 1>This is my second honorable mention, not because the first
<v Speaker 1>one was great, although it did. It did launch the
<v Speaker 1>career of a director that we've talked about before. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>and oddly enough, in a movie where he was parodying
<v Speaker 1>a movie that of a big director at the time
<v Speaker 1>who then said, Hey, I want you to come direct
<v Speaker 1>a movie that I'm producing. But the part two of
<v Speaker 1>the series nearly ended the career of one of your
<v Speaker 1>favorite directors before it ever got started.
<v Speaker 2>I know what this is. Yes, this is Piranhatu, the Spawning.
<v Speaker 1>You got it.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I watched this movie and I don't think it's
<v Speaker 2>all that bad.
<v Speaker 1>Well, James Cameron thought it was terrible. James Cameron did think,
<v Speaker 1>and James Cameron got like fired halfway through or quit
<v Speaker 1>halfway through, depending on which version you listened to. Like,
<v Speaker 1>he was there with no money, not for the movie,
<v Speaker 1>not for himself. He was stealing food off of the
<v Speaker 1>carts that people left out at the hotel room. That's
<v Speaker 1>how that's how down to the dirt he was. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I he luckily managed to escape what could have been
<v Speaker 1>a dismal career ending movie by just kind of disclaiming
<v Speaker 1>and saying this wasn't really me.
<v Speaker 2>Right, he said when he got the phone call that
<v Speaker 2>he was fired, he was painting rubber fish in his
<v Speaker 2>hotel room, like working around the clock to try and
<v Speaker 2>make this turn into something good.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Johnson and I have talked about this. We both
<v Speaker 2>like this movie. Wow, it's actually okay.
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not. This movie got a three point eight.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, so we are on to our number ones.
<v Speaker 2>One of the good things about Prontutude the Spawning though,
<v Speaker 2>that's when Lance Hendrickson meets up with James Cameron and
<v Speaker 2>he goes on to play Bishop and Aliens.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and is the He is the guy who James
<v Speaker 1>Cameron had set up to play the terminator and comes
<v Speaker 1>in dressed as the terminator for the producers, bust through
<v Speaker 1>the door, gun in hand, and they're like, what the heck? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>almost ruined that one too, that's true. Yeah, that's good
<v Speaker 1>all right. So now here we are to number back
<v Speaker 1>to number ones. And I know what yours is?
<v Speaker 2>No Jerseys.
<v Speaker 1>One, right, So yours is Caddyshack too.
<v Speaker 5>Ladies and a gentlemen, let's get ready to remember what
<v Speaker 5>goes around comes around. Welcome back to Caddyshack.
<v Speaker 9>Hey, ty, you're looking well, Hey, nice to see if
<v Speaker 9>any ted whatever?
<v Speaker 5>Bushwood Country Club, So you want to join old Bushwood,
<v Speaker 5>where snowbery is a way of life.
<v Speaker 1>We just don't feed your Bushwood material. I want to
<v Speaker 1>bite Bushwood Country Club.
<v Speaker 5>Let me ask you this, honest. But now it's members
<v Speaker 5>are gonna get what they deserve.
<v Speaker 4>What do you think is it great?
<v Speaker 10>That's grat h out.
<v Speaker 5>God, the shack is back.
<v Speaker 1>Our members will never stand for this.
<v Speaker 10>It's a story of high culture.
<v Speaker 3>Who I was looking? Bodygrip?
<v Speaker 7>No, No, that loose stuff.
<v Speaker 1>You put your.
<v Speaker 10>Combs in no and subculture.
<v Speaker 7>I got you.
<v Speaker 2>Now you're a little furry freak.
<v Speaker 1>Sophisticated ladies.
<v Speaker 4>You did not on purpose.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I will be a caddy all my life.
<v Speaker 8>I'm going to.
<v Speaker 5>Car wash school in the farm and perfect gentlemen, have
<v Speaker 5>you ever seen a crisp fifty dollars?
<v Speaker 3>Bill? I tell you what if I pulled the arrow out,
<v Speaker 3>will you please suck out the poison for me?
<v Speaker 1>Catty Shack two?
<v Speaker 3>Is there any money in it for me?
<v Speaker 2>Mine is Caddyshack to got a whopping four percent on
<v Speaker 2>rotten tomatoes.
<v Speaker 1>Four percent.
<v Speaker 2>Listen to this. Rodney Dangerfield was supposed to come back
<v Speaker 2>as Al Shirvekh. He was funny in Caddy Shack Part one,
<v Speaker 2>and they were going to bring back Chevy Chase. Bill
<v Speaker 2>Murray had no interest, so they brought Harold Ramis in.
<v Speaker 2>This was going to be a mean, high dollar tent
<v Speaker 2>pole comedy for eighty eight. But Rodney Dangerfield got sideways
<v Speaker 2>with the studio, so he drops out. Harold Ramis said, well,
<v Speaker 2>if Rodney Dangerfield is not in it, I'm dropping out.
<v Speaker 2>So he drops out right. They wouldn't let him take
<v Speaker 2>his name off the thing. Chevy Chase wanted a million
<v Speaker 2>bucks just to be in it for five minutes, and
<v Speaker 2>he was a turn to the director of the whole
<v Speaker 2>time sucker and Harold Raimis went to the studios like, listen,
<v Speaker 2>let's just let this thing die. John Peters Is like, no, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 2>We'll get Jackie Mason in it. They'll be great. Jackie
<v Speaker 2>Mason is terrible.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The guy that got into direct is a guy
<v Speaker 1>named Alan Parkish. Yes, literally, his big movie before this
<v Speaker 1>was nineteen eighty three's Get Crazy.
<v Speaker 2>You know what he was famous for up to this
<v Speaker 2>point Moonlighting.
<v Speaker 1>Oh is that what he was doing? Yeah? Wow, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean he would he directed some TV. He did
<v Speaker 1>La Law and Saint Elsewhere. But yeah, no, the this
<v Speaker 1>was their pick for the replacement for Harold Ramos.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, guys, I watched this movie the other day. I
<v Speaker 2>watched it. It was so bad. I literally told you,
<v Speaker 2>I counted down to the exact second that this movie
<v Speaker 2>lost me one minute in thirty seconds, one minute and
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds. Because the movie starts off at one minute
<v Speaker 2>in thirty seconds. You have this ridiculous, terrible gopher puppet
<v Speaker 2>that looks way worse and has no character than the
<v Speaker 2>one that appeared in the first movie that was so
<v Speaker 2>freakin funny.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I looked at him like, this sucks.
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just that's right, it sucks.
<v Speaker 2>Dan Aykroyd, they brought him in to do the Bill
<v Speaker 2>Murray Park. Yeah, he has this ridiculous high voice.
<v Speaker 1>It's terrible. It's so so bad.
<v Speaker 2>Michael Willingham of The La Times said this film is
<v Speaker 2>so bad it makes Caddyshack one look like the Godfather
<v Speaker 2>part too. So bad. Yeah, yep, all right, onto your
<v Speaker 2>number one, sir.
<v Speaker 1>All right, my number one may not be the worst
<v Speaker 1>in the series, especially considering that you've already brought up
<v Speaker 1>one of the things in the series that led to
<v Speaker 1>the making of this movie. But I never saw a Supergirl.
<v Speaker 1>Didn't watch it, like yeah, yeah. I think like it
<v Speaker 1>might have been a thing where it was on TV
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Oh, I should watch this, and
<v Speaker 1>I put it on and I was just like no, no.
<v Speaker 1>So I had the same reaction with that one that
<v Speaker 1>I had with Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull, where
<v Speaker 1>I watched it for maybe five to ten minutes and
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, there's no way that this can
<v Speaker 1>become good like it is unrecoverable. On the other hand,
<v Speaker 1>what happened with Superman four? My number one is I
<v Speaker 1>watched it all and I just walked out a broken
<v Speaker 1>human being.
<v Speaker 10>The greatest hope against the threat of nuclear war is Superman.
<v Speaker 9>I'm going to do what our governments they've been unwilling
<v Speaker 9>or unable to do effective immediately. I'm going to rid
<v Speaker 9>our planet of all nuclear weapons.
<v Speaker 10>The greatest threat to Superman is Lex Luthor.
<v Speaker 2>Smarter than I thought, we can make the world safe
<v Speaker 2>for war profits.
<v Speaker 10>He's created the ultimate weapon to annihilate the Man of Steel.
<v Speaker 3>Risk worldwide nuclear war for your own personal financial game.
<v Speaker 10>Nobody wants war.
<v Speaker 1>I just want to keep the threat alive.
<v Speaker 2>Dude, to steal where are you gonna get it?
<v Speaker 1>And you know you're a workaholic. Let's just stop smell
<v Speaker 1>the roses.
<v Speaker 10>Hum Superman for Christopher Reeve, Gene Hackman, Jackie Cooper, John
<v Speaker 10>Cryer with Mary Way and Margot Kidder as Lois Lane.
<v Speaker 10>Superman for his most important adventure, the Quest for Peace.
<v Speaker 1>I mean I used to dress up like Superman. Superman
<v Speaker 1>was my go to guy, and they ruined it. They
<v Speaker 1>just ruined it. And so because it was taken from
<v Speaker 1>such high point from my perspective down to such a
<v Speaker 1>low point with this movie. That's why I put it in.
<v Speaker 2>It's so Superman has all these ridiculous powers. The effects
<v Speaker 2>are terrible. They keep reusing the same shot. You have
<v Speaker 2>this kid named Jeremy and his social studies class who
<v Speaker 2>tells everyone, no, no, should get Superman take care of
<v Speaker 2>the nuclear bombs. He gets a giant net from home
<v Speaker 2>depot and takes all the nuclear bombs to the sun and.
<v Speaker 1>What and that creates like a fetus from the sun. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>a growing fetus from the sun that suddenly has clothes,
<v Speaker 1>Like we're gonna make this all scientific until it can't
<v Speaker 1>be naked. And he's literally goo that they put in
<v Speaker 1>a box on one of the missiles, like what what
<v Speaker 1>are you what? And it gets worse from there, like
<v Speaker 1>it's like the worst creation point you can imagine. And
<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna go all right, here is the guy
<v Speaker 1>we're pitting against Superman because he's so powerful unless you
<v Speaker 1>have an umbrella.
<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly, and they actually do a good job, like
<v Speaker 2>Superman thinks this through. Okay, this guy is completely solar
<v Speaker 2>powered as long as the sun doesn't touch him, I'm safe.
<v Speaker 2>So he takes him to the dark side of the
<v Speaker 2>moon literally never gets sunlight.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, except in the movie it does. Like what krack
<v Speaker 1>a text?
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, please ely dude, it's terrible.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Okay. So that does it for our top five
<v Speaker 1>or bottom five, if you will, Top five worst sequels
<v Speaker 1>of the nineteen eighties. Now, I had some movies that
<v Speaker 1>I was excited to talk about today that Jason totally went, no,
<v Speaker 1>we can't do that because that's the nineties. I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>oh crap, we've changed the rules. So the reason for
<v Speaker 1>that is we will be coming back to you soon
<v Speaker 1>with a top five worst sequels of the nineties.
<v Speaker 2>We want to hear what you guys think are these
<v Speaker 2>If you are out there and you have an opinion
<v Speaker 2>that says, no, no, no, no, you got this wrong. That
<v Speaker 2>movie is actually really good. We really want to hear
<v Speaker 2>from you. I want to hear from somebody who says,
<v Speaker 2>Caddy Shack two is awesome, or Smoking the Band it
<v Speaker 2>is Part three is freaking funny. I don't think you're
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're out there.
<v Speaker 1>We'll see Jackie Mason.
<v Speaker 2>When Jackie Mason his golf swad. I don't even want
<v Speaker 2>to get into his golf week. Hit us up on Facebook,
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<v Speaker 2>Thanks guys, We will see you back here next week,
<v Speaker 2>I guess