2024 New York Auto Show

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Hi, and welcome to Talking Cars.

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I'm Jennifer Stockburger.

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I'm Mike Quincy.

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I'm Michael Crossen.

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So as you can see,
we are not at home.

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We are coming to you from
the floor of the New York

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International Auto Show,
as we do every year.

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It's a nice, short jaunt for us
from Connecticut to New York.

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And we've been
taking in the show.

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Usually, there's some
themes that we see.

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The first one I see
is that there's really

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something for everyone here,
be it the racing enthusiasts,

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the off-roader, the wilderness
guy in their pickup truck,

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or girl, but one
thing struck, I know,

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us as we were walking
around the floor, an that is

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this concept of affordability.

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Mike, I'll start with you.

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Mike Q, as opposed
to Mike C. But yeah.

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We need nicknames.

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We do.

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[LAUGHS]

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Absolutely.

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When you're walking
around and looking

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at all the manufacturers,
what is prominent to all of us

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is a lot of Nissan
Sentras out there.

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Yeah.

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A lot of Chevy Trax out there.

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Really affordable cars.

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Not just out there, but right in
front, the most prominent spot

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on a show floor that
people are going

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to see right when they walk in.

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On the stage at Hyundai,
Tucson Santa Cruz.

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Right.

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Not the top level.

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Not the Genesis cars.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Affordability and
practicality seems

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to be the most important
thing going on right now.

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Yeah.

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And you wonder, is
it manufacturers

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realizing the average price
of a new car keeps going up

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and up and up?

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People talk about EVs,
how much they cost,

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and maybe they're
sensing a shift

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that the market is ready to
start embracing much more

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affordable-- if you want a new
car, it has to get cheaper.

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Yeah.

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And don't get us wrong.

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There's-- the fancy
cars are here.

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They're here, but they're
not-- to your point, Mike,

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they're not the most prominent.

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So I wanted to talk too about
a couple that are particularly

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popular, not only
with Consumer Reports,

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but with buyers in general.

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And the first one of that which
is taking tremendous prominence

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is the Toyota Camry.

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Again.

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Up until the pickup trucks
took over, best selling car

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in the country.

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Super reliable every year,
but new Camry coming for 2025.

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Mike C?

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Yeah.

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It's-- I mean, it's
exciting thing, right?

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You don't get a new
Camry every single year,

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and we're always very
hopeful with the Camry,

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because they always
do a pretty good job.

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So you know, it looks cool.

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Can't wait to actually
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that we purchased and get to
experience it for ourselves.

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Yeah.

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I got to shoot a video
with Anatoly the great.

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And the cool thing is that
every model, every trim line

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is going to be hybrid.

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So there's no more V6.

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Right.

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No more standard four cylinder.

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All wheel drive is
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[INTERPOSING VOICES]

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--on all the trim lines.

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Blind spot warning is now
standard on all the trim lines.

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Toyota wasn't--

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--and now is, yeah.

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So and I actually--

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I think the styling
is kind of slick.

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It shows that when you think
of how kind of cool the Prius--

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I mean, I think the
Prius looks pretty racy.

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That same kind of theme, that
slick styling is featured,

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I think, in the
new Camry as well.

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I think-- I saw certainly,
a lot of slope-y sedans.

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A lot of slope-y sedans.

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Keeping too with the affordable
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was the Kia K4.

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Absolutely.

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Replacing the Forte.

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Right.

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It's bigger, which kind of seems
to be the trend as cars age,

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I guess.

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If you want to call
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it's really just
the replacement.

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So I think two inches
wider, two inches longer.

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There are two motor options.

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140 something horsepower.

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You got it 147 two liter.

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A 1.6 turbo that's
190 horsepower.

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You got it.

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Yep.

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And it looks pretty sharp.

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I think it's a little more
stylized than the Forte was.

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But again, yeah, this sort of
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of big fender bulges out back.

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Pretty neat looking car.

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So one too, that super popular
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members, again, in
general, was the Forester.

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That was one I filmed
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And yeah, an iteration.

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A little more burly looking, if
that's-- as they've done with

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the Impreza and the
Crosstrek, you know,

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that whole wilderness idea.

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Same powertrain, but
again, upping the ante

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in terms of safety, in terms of
infotainment options, you know?

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Big, optional 11.6 inch
tablet-like screen.

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But again, iterating pedestrian
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I think we've seen
that on a lot of cars.

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Powertrains staying pretty
much the same, little tweak

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in horsepower, but every
Forester buyer-- again, I

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talk about my 87-year-old
mother on her seventh Forester.

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She'll be ready to be
90 and order her eighth,

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because it's not that
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So reliability, hopefully, will
benefit from those small tweaks.

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But of course--

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--and again, most of these
are 2025 models coming.

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And for people maybe
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coming to the New
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check out the Subaru display.

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They always go all out.

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It's very nice.

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Certainly, the wilderness theme,
the outdoorsy themes, Subaru

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does that better than anyone.

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I'm waiting for someone to roll
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lay on the ground.

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Because as we've seen over
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car makers are cutting back on
their displays, not as fancy

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as they have been.

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So it's nice to see that
Subaru's still sticking with it.

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And again, they're-- not
everybody's here, to your point.

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Right.

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There isn't a BMW booth.

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There isn't a Mercedes booth.

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So some are opting
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Chevrolet has a huge
presence, but we

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learned the GMC trucks and
vehicles that are in the corner

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are from their regional dealers,

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Correct.

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General Motors National.

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Exactly.

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Just a few vehicles.

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So I think this is
expensive to do.

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And it's very sad.

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I mean, really.

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It's tucked away in the corner.

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They don't have great
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There's nothing to
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think there are some
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I stood in front of the--

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I think it was 2500,
and it is massive.

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The grille is huge.

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The hood height is
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Not going to be great for front
over, or anything like that.

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And then there's also the
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so the Sierra Denali
EV is over there too.

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And speaking of EVs, again,
the trend, not the forefront.

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Kind of tucked in, it just
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they're here, but they're
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space of the other vehicles.

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One in particular though,
Mike, that you talked about

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was Honda's Prologue.

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That's right.

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And it was out front for Honda,
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Not showy out,
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It wasn't.

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It wasn't lit up all
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It's kind of in a gray color,
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But it's an interesting car.

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And I did a video on it
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but we walked around,
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had some comments about it.

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One of the surprising
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maybe, is that it's a Honda,
but it's also General Motors.

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It's a collaboration.

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It's the Ultium platform like
the EV Blazer, and so basically,

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battery and motors, which
actually might be a good thing--

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--because that's kind
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part of the Blazer
EV and the LYRIQ

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so far, from what
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But I just wonder
for the Honda buyer,

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what are they going to
feel when they get in this?

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Because I had both
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I was like, go sit in.

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It it's weird because there's
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but what does it feel like?

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It's all General Motors.

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All the controls
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So we just we just wrapped up
our testing of the Blazer EV,

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and we're looking at the
controls like, wait a minute.

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I've seen this before, and
it's-- what struck me about

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the Prologue is that Honda
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manufacturers, like Toyota, that
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to the EV market.

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They've been much
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and they're-- so they're
using an existing GM platform

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and mechanical,

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Everything else which lowers
their overall investment,

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financial investment
in this vehicle.

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And you know, Honda has
re-branded vehicles in the past,

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so that's kind of
not necessarily new.

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Right.

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But on the other hand,
the average consumer

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has to has to kind of realize
like, no, Honda is not going all

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into EVs if they're getting
General Motors basically

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to build one for them.

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Right.

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Right.

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And maybe that's a
good cost savings.

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They're not to run up.

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But is it a risk in
terms of other areas

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of not branding themselves?

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It's the unforeseen
costs down the road.

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[INTERPOSING VOICES]

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It looks nice.

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The technician in me
wonders about service

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because it is a GM platform.

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Now, does Honda have
to have a GM scan

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tool, and things like that?

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So we're going to get one,
so we're going to find out.

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And you brought up they're
risking Honda's reputation

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for reliability.

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Yeah.

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OK?

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A lot of newly designed General
Motors products have not

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done well in Consumer
Reports reliability surveys.

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Right.

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So Honda has pretty
good reputation

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for top notch reliability.

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So I-- you know,
doing the accounting,

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crunching the numbers and this
is way above my pay grade.

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It's a big scale.

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So I don't know if this
is a smart move for Honda,

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or just they're placating
people that say, I want a Honda

272
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but it has to be an EV.

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Honda's like, all right.

274
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Here's a sort of a General
Motors Honda EV whatever thing.

275
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Right.

276
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We'll see how it sells.

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And like--

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I do think it'll sell.

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--we're going to
buy one and test it.

280
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Absolutely.

281
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See how it goes.

282
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Yeah.

283
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Very interesting.

284
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The finally, just in the cars
we looked more closely at, Mike,

285
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was the Volkswagen ID buzz?

286
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Yes.

287
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It's here again.

288
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Again.

289
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Haven't we seen this?

290
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[LAUGHTER]

291
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Once or twice.

292
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Is it deja vu?

293
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I think 2016 was the first time
that we saw, it not at an auto

294
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show.

295
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I think it debuted
at CES maybe, or that

296
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was the first time we saw it.

297
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Yeah.

298
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I will say I saw
it last year here.

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This particular one
looks more complete.

300
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It looks more like a
factory-ready production

301
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vehicle.

302
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It's not, though.

303
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We did find a couple
of things as Andrew

304
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and I kind of made our
way through the car.

305
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Still a European model.

306
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So what's interesting is it's
the three row, the longer

307
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wheelbase, which is what we're
going to get here in the states.

308
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OK.

309
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And I heard from someone who
was in Germany last week.

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They actually saw a lot of
the two row German models

311
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like, in and around Wolfsburg
and out on the road.

312
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So whether they're factory
test mules, I don't know,

313
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but they saw a few.

314
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So we have the long
wheelbase here.

315
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But in poking
around, it actually

316
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still has the European
charge plug on it.

317
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So what's here now today is not
actually truly the US model.

318
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It might have--

319
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Did they give any
promises of when?

320
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There are no
promises of any kind

321
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for Volkswagen, other
than they literally

322
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say, stay tuned for more
information on any time you

323
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ask them a question.

324
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Mostly in promises, they're
going to keep teasing this.

325
00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:26,060
Yes.

326
00:10:26,060 --> 00:10:31,620
I mean, talk about brand, like,
love for brand, brand loyalty,

327
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and how this looks like
a classic, you know,

328
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summer of love minivan, you
know, micro van-- microbus,

329
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sorry.

330
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And they're not producing
it, but they still show it.

331
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People still swoon over it.

332
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And like, yeah, it might happen.

333
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It might not happen.

334
00:10:48,780 --> 00:10:50,340
There's other swoon worthy.

335
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There's a lot of nostalgia.

336
00:10:51,820 --> 00:10:52,320
Right.

337
00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,630
Again, there is
something for everyone.

338
00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:57,660
A couple of things that I wrote
too, the race cars that are out

339
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here, be it Travis Pastrana's,
or some Nismo, or whatever.

340
00:11:01,290 --> 00:11:04,230
And one quote I read,
"Racing today shapes

341
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innovation of tomorrow."

342
00:11:05,550 --> 00:11:07,110
I thought that was
very interesting,

343
00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:09,840
and it almost alludes
to what we do sometimes

344
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in a very high end,
very expensive vehicle.

345
00:11:12,930 --> 00:11:16,980
I would say luxury of today
shapes innovation of tomorrow,

346
00:11:16,980 --> 00:11:20,080
and why we test some of
these very expensive,

347
00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,960
new technology cars.

348
00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,390
I mean historically,
anti-lock brakes

349
00:11:24,390 --> 00:11:27,370
debuted on high end
Mercedes-Benz models.

350
00:11:27,370 --> 00:11:27,870
Yeah.

351
00:11:27,870 --> 00:11:32,040
We wouldn't think of even
buying a new car without ABS

352
00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,720
because they're all
standard everywhere.

353
00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,220
Right.

354
00:11:34,220 --> 00:11:36,360
So it starts on the high
end and it trickles down,

355
00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,760
just like with the
active safety features.

356
00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,160
Certainly, most of
the electric vehicles

357
00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,930
are starting out high end.

358
00:11:42,930 --> 00:11:45,600
And again, they're going to
learn technology trickles down,

359
00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,440
costs get better.

360
00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,773
And I like to think we have
a role in that, particularly

361
00:11:48,773 --> 00:11:50,700
safety innovation,
where we say--

362
00:11:50,700 --> 00:11:52,380
take electronic
stability control,

363
00:11:52,380 --> 00:11:53,580
where it was high end first.

364
00:11:53,580 --> 00:11:55,320
And we said, game changer.

365
00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,310
Everybody needs this.

366
00:11:56,310 --> 00:11:57,970
And it trickled
very, very quickly

367
00:11:57,970 --> 00:11:59,220
because it was a game changer.

368
00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:00,690
I think we're seeing a
little more of it, too.

369
00:12:00,690 --> 00:12:02,970
Some of the cars that I spend
time with, some things are now

370
00:12:02,970 --> 00:12:04,890
standard, not even
optional in these sort of,

371
00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:06,810
I'll call them
mid-level or lower end

372
00:12:06,810 --> 00:12:09,295
cars like rear cross traffic,
or rear pedestrian alert,

373
00:12:09,295 --> 00:12:10,170
and things like that.

374
00:12:10,170 --> 00:12:13,137
And again, you can't argue
with those safety systems.

375
00:12:13,137 --> 00:12:14,220
I love rear cross traffic.

376
00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:15,700
I think it's the
best of all of them.

377
00:12:15,700 --> 00:12:15,780
Yeah.

378
00:12:15,780 --> 00:12:16,280
Absolutely.

379
00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,120
Well you just
talked about the K4.

380
00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,317
That had a laundry
list of standard safety

381
00:12:20,317 --> 00:12:21,900
that just went bang,
bang, bang, bang,

382
00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:25,570
and hits all the marks that we
give points for, or really feel

383
00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:28,110
are really beneficial
for safety.

384
00:12:28,110 --> 00:12:30,480
One thing I noticed, too,
just on the floor here,

385
00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,150
is automakers doing good.

386
00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:33,400
And you were a little cynical,

387
00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,140
[LAUGHS]

388
00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:37,170
But you know, Ford and
Honda with micro-mobility

389
00:12:37,170 --> 00:12:39,540
and wheelchair access
to national parks.

390
00:12:39,540 --> 00:12:43,680
Toyota has a whole thing on
Paralympics and their support.

391
00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,470
And you can go try playing
basketball from a wheelchair.

392
00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:47,910
Not so easy.

393
00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:50,100
Hyundai Cancer, Hope
On Wheels, support

394
00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:53,640
of cancer, Subaru, pet safety
and national park support.

395
00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,530
So it's nice to see.

396
00:12:55,530 --> 00:12:57,240
It's nice to see.

397
00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,590
I think all most corporations
want to have feel-good moments,

398
00:13:01,590 --> 00:13:04,530
either to make themselves
feel better, to say something

399
00:13:04,530 --> 00:13:07,620
to their shareholders, or maybe
it might even be a write off,

400
00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:08,250
or whatever.

401
00:13:08,250 --> 00:13:09,840
I think it's all good.

402
00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,190
But you know, it--

403
00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:11,760
yeah, I do.

404
00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,220
I do look at it just a
little bit not cynically,

405
00:13:14,220 --> 00:13:15,000
but skeptically.

406
00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,870
Yeah.

407
00:13:15,870 --> 00:13:17,190
Would it change you?

408
00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:19,680
Would it change you if
you were on the fence

409
00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,260
to pick a manufacturer
that you thought

410
00:13:22,260 --> 00:13:26,640
was doing something good, either
for the environment, safety?

411
00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,890
I don't think it would change
the car that I purchased

412
00:13:28,890 --> 00:13:30,630
because I'm so
connected with cars,

413
00:13:30,630 --> 00:13:32,220
and I want the car that I want.

414
00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:35,340
However, if that car that I
want, they're doing something,

415
00:13:35,340 --> 00:13:37,290
I would feel good about
it in the process.

416
00:13:37,290 --> 00:13:38,707
Even if let's say,
it was whatever

417
00:13:38,707 --> 00:13:40,832
the cause was, I don't have
a direct connection to,

418
00:13:40,832 --> 00:13:42,630
but I know that $500
is going towards that.

419
00:13:42,630 --> 00:13:43,130
Yeah.

420
00:13:43,130 --> 00:13:44,160
It doesn't hurt, right?

421
00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,568
I was just thinking
my friend who

422
00:13:45,568 --> 00:13:47,610
I take care of who has
MS, who's in a wheelchair.

423
00:13:47,610 --> 00:13:49,650
I see those
micro-mobility and her

424
00:13:49,650 --> 00:13:52,740
being able to see a national
park because there's

425
00:13:52,740 --> 00:13:53,520
tracks on it.

426
00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,270
Right.

427
00:13:54,270 --> 00:13:54,770
No,

428
00:13:54,770 --> 00:13:55,590
I think I would.

429
00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:58,440
The American Disabilities
Act is really important.

430
00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,518
And to think years
ago, that they

431
00:14:00,518 --> 00:14:01,810
didn't have anything like this.

432
00:14:01,810 --> 00:14:04,450
Just, but-- if I can
jump on this to answer?

433
00:14:04,450 --> 00:14:04,950
Absolutely.

434
00:14:04,950 --> 00:14:08,550
I love the fact that
Subaru is big on like,

435
00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:10,080
dog ownership or pet ownership.

436
00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,620
Pet safety.

437
00:14:10,620 --> 00:14:11,758
We're dog people.

438
00:14:11,758 --> 00:14:12,300
Yeah, we are.

439
00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:14,483
And for Subaru,
certainly when you're

440
00:14:14,483 --> 00:14:15,900
when you're on
their website, they

441
00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:18,720
have all these pet accessories,
whether it's seat covers,

442
00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,810
or harnesses, or even like,
ramps for elderly dogs

443
00:14:21,810 --> 00:14:23,190
to get into your car.

444
00:14:23,190 --> 00:14:24,570
I think that's totally cool.

445
00:14:24,570 --> 00:14:27,788
No, it wouldn't like, make
me want to necessarily buy

446
00:14:27,788 --> 00:14:30,330
a Subaru or something else just
because they're pet friendly.

447
00:14:30,330 --> 00:14:33,180
But I do like the fact-- listen,
talk about smart accounting.

448
00:14:33,180 --> 00:14:36,900
The pet market, the dog
market is $1 billion industry.

449
00:14:36,900 --> 00:14:39,330
So it was like, well, let's
appeal to those folks.

450
00:14:39,330 --> 00:14:41,170
We like our dogs better
than we like people.

451
00:14:41,170 --> 00:14:41,820
Well, sort of.

452
00:14:41,820 --> 00:14:42,497
[INAUDIBLE]

453
00:14:42,497 --> 00:14:44,580
I think it creates a little
bit of community, too.

454
00:14:44,580 --> 00:14:46,500
So if we stick with
Subaru for a minute,

455
00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:49,530
it's part of that whole
Subaru kind of community.

456
00:14:49,530 --> 00:14:52,740
And [INAUDIBLE] a lot of people
that buy Subarus are active.

457
00:14:52,740 --> 00:14:53,410
They bike.

458
00:14:53,410 --> 00:14:53,910
They hike.

459
00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:55,350
They do all those
kinds of things.

460
00:14:55,350 --> 00:14:57,060
So it's-- again, it's
part of that community.

461
00:14:57,060 --> 00:14:58,440
And I think community
is important.

462
00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,340
And we talk about that.

463
00:14:59,340 --> 00:15:00,210
And like with our
community, it's

464
00:15:00,210 --> 00:15:01,770
one of the reasons why
we do a podcast, right?

465
00:15:01,770 --> 00:15:02,270
Exactly.

466
00:15:02,270 --> 00:15:04,890
So it's just another way that
we can reach out to our people.

467
00:15:04,890 --> 00:15:05,390
Right.

468
00:15:05,390 --> 00:15:06,900
Or it's aspirational.

469
00:15:06,900 --> 00:15:08,992
It's like, people
maybe aren't outdoorsy,

470
00:15:08,992 --> 00:15:11,450
but they think they might want
to be, so they get a Subaru.

471
00:15:11,450 --> 00:15:14,240
Or they want the image
of being outdoorsy,

472
00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,440
and so they get a Subaru.

473
00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:15,770
So it's like--

474
00:15:15,770 --> 00:15:17,180
I get a Subaru, I'll ski better.

475
00:15:17,180 --> 00:15:17,810
Right.

476
00:15:17,810 --> 00:15:18,350
Yes.

477
00:15:18,350 --> 00:15:20,150
But just like with all
the racing heritage.

478
00:15:20,150 --> 00:15:20,650
Exactly.

479
00:15:20,650 --> 00:15:23,870
People aren't necessarily going
to racetracks all the time

480
00:15:23,870 --> 00:15:26,250
on track days to take
their Nismos out there.

481
00:15:26,250 --> 00:15:26,750
Right.

482
00:15:26,750 --> 00:15:29,780
But they like the whole idea
of associating themselves

483
00:15:29,780 --> 00:15:32,610
with a racing program that has
some prominence of some success.

484
00:15:32,610 --> 00:15:33,110
Absolutely.

485
00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:34,160
And you get that
trickle down, too.

486
00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,702
So you get like a
little taste of it.

487
00:15:35,702 --> 00:15:37,820
Some of the systems that
your kicks might have

488
00:15:37,820 --> 00:15:40,250
might have been
developed on the GT-R.

489
00:15:40,250 --> 00:15:40,770
Exactly.

490
00:15:40,770 --> 00:15:41,270
Right.

491
00:15:41,270 --> 00:15:42,680
The trickle down, which I love.

492
00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,280
OK.

493
00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,270
Closure.

494
00:15:44,270 --> 00:15:48,298
What tickled your fancy
the most on this score?

495
00:15:48,298 --> 00:15:50,090
I don't think I have
one car in particular,

496
00:15:50,090 --> 00:15:54,200
but I was sort of happy to see
a lot of the prominent cars

497
00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,750
are kind of silver and gray,
which is what cars tend to be.

498
00:15:56,750 --> 00:15:59,000
And we end up with a lot of
white, black, silver cars.

499
00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,300
But there's a lot of really
good color choice here.

500
00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:02,840
Yeah.

501
00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,410
I mean, there's a purple
Tacoma back there.

502
00:16:04,410 --> 00:16:05,750
It's not a factory color,
but it's still here,

503
00:16:05,750 --> 00:16:07,250
and it looks kind of cool.

504
00:16:07,250 --> 00:16:10,230
Some good greens, really
good blues over in Nissan.

505
00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:13,170
And then I don't want to
spoil anybody's, but Genesis

506
00:16:13,170 --> 00:16:16,690
down there has three
crazy orange cars.

507
00:16:16,690 --> 00:16:17,760
Yeah.

508
00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,040
Total concepts, but
it's them saying,

509
00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,470
I think, like hey, we're
over here, and we have fun.

510
00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:24,960
They're trying to change
their image just a little bit.

511
00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,150
Beautiful green, I think
it's a GV70 or something.

512
00:16:27,150 --> 00:16:27,650
You?

513
00:16:27,650 --> 00:16:28,950
What tickled your fancy?

514
00:16:28,950 --> 00:16:34,140
Well, I also was blown away by
the Genesis display, not only

515
00:16:34,140 --> 00:16:35,220
the concept cars.

516
00:16:35,220 --> 00:16:36,720
I love the color orange on cars.

517
00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,680
I think it's awesome.

518
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,180
Yeah.

519
00:16:38,180 --> 00:16:44,850
But the commitment that Hyundai
has with Genesis is awesome.

520
00:16:44,850 --> 00:16:46,020
They're not going away.

521
00:16:46,020 --> 00:16:49,510
They're not quitting at
all, so I kind of like that.

522
00:16:49,510 --> 00:16:52,260
But really on a more
practical basis,

523
00:16:52,260 --> 00:16:54,490
I actually kind of
like the Nissan Kicks.

524
00:16:54,490 --> 00:16:54,990
Yes.

525
00:16:54,990 --> 00:16:57,638
Got to do a video with
Anatoly the great on this.

526
00:16:57,638 --> 00:16:58,680
It's a little bit bigger.

527
00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,980
It's getting the Sentra's
four cylinder engine, which--

528
00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:02,940
We really like.

529
00:17:02,940 --> 00:17:05,010
--which produced pretty
good fuel economy numbers

530
00:17:05,010 --> 00:17:06,930
in Consumer Reports testing.

531
00:17:06,930 --> 00:17:09,020
It is affordable, you know?

532
00:17:09,020 --> 00:17:10,700
So it kind of goes
on that theme.

533
00:17:10,700 --> 00:17:14,390
And it's totally front and
center at the Nissan display.

534
00:17:14,390 --> 00:17:19,310
So they're not going all
in on trucks or big SUVs.

535
00:17:19,310 --> 00:17:21,050
Certainly, they're out there.

536
00:17:21,050 --> 00:17:22,910
But the Kicks, to
me, is something

537
00:17:22,910 --> 00:17:25,849
that's really approachable by
most people, and affordable.

538
00:17:25,849 --> 00:17:26,932
And the 4 all-wheel drive.

539
00:17:26,932 --> 00:17:27,432
Yes.

540
00:17:27,432 --> 00:17:28,300
That wasn't there.

541
00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:31,340
All-wheel drive, so it's kind
of transitioning from being kind

542
00:17:31,340 --> 00:17:32,060
of a--

543
00:17:32,060 --> 00:17:33,320
--a not SUV.

544
00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,900
Well, kind of like a like
a dorky hatchback to now,

545
00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:38,870
sort of looking like an SUV
and offering all-wheel drive.

546
00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:39,530
Yeah.

547
00:17:39,530 --> 00:17:44,270
Mine was a little more obscure
in that I think I've shared,

548
00:17:44,270 --> 00:17:46,670
my husband had a 1973 Bronco.

549
00:17:46,670 --> 00:17:51,830
And there is a new '24 Bronco
Heritage version over there

550
00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:53,752
that looks so similar.

551
00:17:53,752 --> 00:17:55,210
I literally just
sent him a picture

552
00:17:55,210 --> 00:17:56,780
and he said, please
drive that for me.

553
00:17:56,780 --> 00:17:57,410
The light blue one.

554
00:17:57,410 --> 00:17:57,910
Yeah.

555
00:17:57,910 --> 00:17:59,070
Please drive that for me.

556
00:17:59,070 --> 00:17:59,570
Looks great.

557
00:17:59,570 --> 00:18:00,528
That looks really good.

558
00:18:00,528 --> 00:18:04,220
So again, something for
absolutely everyone-- racing,

559
00:18:04,220 --> 00:18:09,480
nostalgia, off-road,
on-road, EVs, traditional gas

560
00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,450
powertrains, here at
the New York Auto Show.

561
00:18:12,450 --> 00:18:16,830
Of course, anything we've
been talking about today,

562
00:18:16,830 --> 00:18:18,240
consumerreports.org.

563
00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,700
We do have highlight videos
of some of the vehicles

564
00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:22,020
we talked about.

565
00:18:22,020 --> 00:18:26,040
Next time, keep your questions,
TalkingCars@icloud.com.

566
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,240
We like being here.

567
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,060
Hope you like getting a glimpse,
and we'll see you next time.

568
00:18:30,060 --> 00:18:32,810
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569
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