2024-09-10- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 1: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone the Kentucky Sports Radio. I'm Matt Jones here live at the KS Bar and Grill on an absolutely beautiful day here in Lexington, Kentucky. Perfect weather, we got the we got the garage door open. Drew's dad is here. It's a big day, Big day. Clark's Public Shop fall Line eight five nine two twenty two eighty seven. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five two five four in this distion sponsor by the T J. Smith Office called TJ will make them pay. Sometimes people will say to me, Matt, if I if I stop by, well I be able to meet you. Guys. Today's a perfect day because right now it's just us, so like this is a perfect time for you to get You could come by, not only me. Way, we might even put you on the air depending on what happens right depending on how the calls go today.

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Speaker 3: An it's an awesome time of year. The weather's great. It's football season. You can kind of smell it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Football season is getting people quite as as amped up as maybe it would have been other years, Drew, I thought you'd like this. A couple of nights ago I taught uh Max about something that I think he Max STUFFI is now enamored with, which is the television show Cheaters. Oh, some good, good American. Do you remember? You remember Cheaters? Of course?

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Speaker 3: I used to watch it every Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: Cheaters, No wonder you had such a fun life every Saturday. Is that still on the air, Like, I don't know if it's still on the air, But the Roku channel. I like going on the Roku channel because anything awful that's ever been on television you can find on the Roku channel. And they have a channel just devoted to Cheating. Wow, and it's just constant Cheaters. And now, Shannon, you can pull up every episode of Cheaters all time. So did you know there's thirty seven seasons of Cheaters? What there's out there? I'm telling you there's thirty seven seasons, and you know, I think they did like multiple seasons in a year. But I'm for some of you younger people. You go look it up. Joey Greco, Joey Greco, Shannon, he would come on there, and he would come on so serious and he'd walk on the screen and he'd go Steven is a baker. He's been married to Denise for four years, but now he's using his baking not just for bread but for romance. Cheaters, Investigators, investigator and I love it, like because it's it's you know, it's all he's so melodramatic and he's so serious and he's got that little soul patch and Drew, I absolutely love it. I'm just thinking about these cheaters.

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Speaker 4: You know, they get these episodes there of years ago and you're telling me now they're on demand, so they're just known as cheaters forever. Watch people get caught and it's all the same thing.

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Speaker 2: The man of the woman is shocked and and by the way, no episode ever resolves in them haveing not cheated, you know what I called not cheating. I mean they never come in and he you know, he pulls out this little video camera from like the Earth the Light nineties and he goes, our investigators have some results. Would you like to see them? And then they go yes, and at that point, you know you're cooked, Like once he shows you the results. It's a great show and I highly recommend if you've never watched it. It's trash TV, but Shannon, it's the best.

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Speaker 1: So who is sitting around and watching thirty seven seasons of Cheaters?

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Speaker 2: Is it like just divorcee mc stuffie. For one, I thought, just when I know two people that start.

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Speaker 3: The best part is when they do the big reveal. They show him on the little video camera and then they say, he's right across the street right.

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Speaker 2: No, No, he always gets a call. He gets a call. One season, he just kept getting a call from Go Mass and he would go, go Mass, Oh, you're one block away, and then you'll look and go they're right over there. Would you like to get in the van? And they hit They're like yeah, and then there they go and I love it and almost bright light on the camera. I found out that later they were almost all in Dallas, which means by that point you would have thought, after thirdy seven seasons Shannon Joey Greco would clean Dallas up. You would have thought that would have been But yeah.

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Speaker 1: Cheating, you're not going to Dallas. You should know that by now exactly.

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Speaker 2: And by the end, the people know what's happening, and when they walk in they just start screaming Cheaters. Cheaters like it's because imagine if you did this show in Lexington, as soon as you see Joey Greco pull up, you better get out of you know, oh there's some cheating going on about to go down.

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Speaker 3: So he didn't coast all thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: No, they went to other people, but it quit being good, Like I don't I only I'm more of a Seasons one through eighteen guy, I haven't seen it. Don't get me wrong, I haven't seen every so but when it's not Joey Greco, I don't watch it. The Joey Greco he made the show. He made the show and then the voiceover guys like an old man. Yeah, the way he talks. So anyway you get a chance to check it out. That doesn't have anything to do with football. But you know what after that week classed week, Well, why do you want to talk about football? Mark Stups spoke last night. You know, he didn't say anything particular, profound or not profound. He he said his one thing was he said when he went back and watched it on tape, he actually thought that Kentucky played much harder than he thought they did in real time. He just thought they basically played dumb, that they made a lot of mistakes, and he both in the postgame a little bit last night, people would say the halftime radio interview was like this. He kind of seemed to take very subtle shots at the OC's play call. Did you notice that, saying like they he didn't understand what we were calling except.

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Speaker 4: For the game Saturday. Pretty much came out and said I didn't like some of our play calls. He just pretty straightforward about it. He had his longest opening statement yesterday, maybe ever at the press conference. You know, usually he says a few things and goes to questions. Long talked for eight minutes.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Although.

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Speaker 2: He just he didn't have a lot to explain. He almost seems kind of still in disbelief that they were that bad. It's tough for eight minutes without like interrupting to have somebody ye'll speak eight minutes a long time. Yeah, it's a big opening statement. He also knew, you know, he did they did. They interviewed Tim Couch for a lot of the show last night, which is nice Tim Couch with the College Football Hall of Fame, But that's also one of those I don't really want to open the phones to Tyler from Spartanburg moments.

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Speaker 3: Ryan, Yeah, I think that was perfect timing. They probably had that set up and it just worked out perfectly. They had tim come on and he's getting inducted into college football fan. I'm gonna honor him. I think next Saturday at Kentucky so good, good timing to bring in one of the best after all what we saw on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Soom Study still has confidence in Eric Wilford.

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Speaker 3: I heard him say that, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Level, what are you gonna say? You can get up there and go. I have no confidence in Eric Wolford.

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Speaker 1: I can't forget that was a bad hire. If you do, that's on you as the head coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't know that he can. You know he can do that. To be fair, there was probably nothing he could say that would have made me feel uh significantly better or worse. It was interesting to hear him say he didn't feel like they didn't play hard, that they just didn't play well. You know, Georgia pretty good. I mean it stinks that were playing somebody. I saw somebody yesterday. They were at the Chipotle and they said to me, I've got a countertake on playing George and they were like, maybe this is good because let's say we played great. We weren't beating Georgia anyway, so why not use it as a chance to get better before you know, it's like it's almost like a no lose situation. Then you beat Ohio and then old miss is when you have a chance to get your season back. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: It sounds like a good glass half full person. I like the attitude. I guess they're saying they want to go ahead and stack the losses, Like if it's gonna be bad, let's just be bat at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got it. We started six and oh a lot of years. Let's just start one and two and then finish positive.

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Speaker 3: What do you think I like to spend? You know, you know, maybe this is the bottom nowhere to go but up after you maybe you pay a little better if it's lower the mid Ohio, and then you old the rest of the season. So yeah, I kind of like that' spin.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we were I'm not gonna say thanks to Notre Dame. I'm not gonna say we were the target of all national ridicule, But there were jokes made the series that is pretty good. What's the I don't know who does those, like SEC shorts videos, Yeah, who does those? They have high production values, very really blown up in the last few years. Like who are those people? They're good, Yeah, I mean there's a there's a woman that lives here in Lexington who sends them to me, who is friends with the people. But I think they tape them in Birmingham for those of the turn round. The turnaround is they do it on Sundays. You should go to like look up on social media. SEC shorts. They do these videos, some of them some they're not always good, but this week I thought they were good. And they basically portrayed Kentucky football as using nineteen The whole theme was like medical and that we were like a nineteen twenties patient with a leather helmet trying to play football from a different generation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they went to an emergency room and all the teams that got beat up were there. They even made us we were like in black and white and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like the video was scratchy, but I mean they're right. You know, it's a conversation we have had at various times in the Stoops tenure. Can you win with that? This pro style offense when we don't have quite the talent everybody else does. I don't know that today's the day to have that conversation because we just got beat so badly, but it is an interesting question.

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Speaker 3: South Carolina just took us out of everything we tried to do offensively. They could not do anything, Duffy said. Vandergriff attempted ten passes. Usually you get that in your first opening drive sometime. That was his game stats. They just couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was not positive. Now the second thing that came out Channing and you know, I guess this broke early June, but I don't remember hearing it, to be fair, I was probably just left for Europe, so I don't think I've heard anything about this. But the SEC is apparently doing one of those like F one PGA tours. I'll go ahead and say wrestlers OVW type shows where you follow and channel. They're gonna follow the SEC all year, right, Okay, they're gonna follow SEC football all year. And all sixteen teams had the ability to opt in or opt out. Okay, apparently I think six or seven teams opted in, of which we are one of them, which surprises me a little. I would have thought. I don't know. I'm actually am kind of glad they did it, even though it's not working. Probably gonna work out, because that seems pretty forward thinking. Those shows have been massively popular and they'll be on all over the world. Here's the problem. They're doing it by going to these like seven schools two weeks all year. So every so like the each school gets two weeks. Well, Shannon our week one with South Carolina this week. I don't know, No, no week two. It's gonna be some time towards the back half of these Okay, so they spent the week with the team here in South carol for the South Carolina game. I'd heard I wasn't gonna put Ryan on the spot. I'd heard cameras followed dang Key all week. Is that true?

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Speaker 3: I am hearing all this for the first time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Somebody who said Dame like went to a barbershop to get his haircut, and Netflix came with him. I think they followed Dion Walker brought brought Fan to Griff. They were in the locker room before and after the game. Wow, they were on the sidelines. It's gonna air in like April of twenty twenty five. But the world is gonna get to see that performance, Drew including, I'm sure there was drama. I mean, I'm just after a loss like that, there is almost certainly some sort of locker, even if it's just people being sad, like we may be the ones having gone through wrestlers. Think about the low points on that show where like it looks like people are down and out. That's probably gonna be us. Yeah, spend zone. You want to be a feel good story.

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Speaker 4: So when they come back, maybe it's at a high and we're we're the main focus of that entire documentary, of the turnaround story of how low it was in week two to whenever they come back.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people realize though, Like like when I was in Portugal, I had people come up and talk to me about wrestling, like the world is gonna see us at arguably, Ryan, what was our lowest moment of the Stoops era?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's one reason why those shows work. The you pull for those people.

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Speaker 5: You know when they're down, they're gonna pull for to make our story better. Well, I hope you're right, little storytelling. I mean, of all the weeks.

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Speaker 2: Like they have two weeks all year of all Week Shane, and we get this one.

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Speaker 1: When you opt in, you do it thinking, Okay, this is gonna be great for exposure, it's gonna be great for recruiting, and then you turn in that performance. You gotta win the next game. You have to otherwise it's gonna make the the program look worse.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was hearing people all week telling me there are Netflix cameras all over town for football and I and I didn't know what it was. And then only yesterday found out what was happening. And I haven't heard anything else about it. I googled it and there were reports back in May that they might do it, but I had not seen any reports that they are doing it. Apparently they were at the A and M Notre Dame game, and then we're at this one.

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Speaker 4: We have bad luck with documentaries. Didn't wasn't there in all access.

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Speaker 2: They did an all access for the year we didn't make the tournament, and then they had the Saint Peter's year.

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Speaker 4: They were gonna follow all they like, flew out there to start the tournament run and then there wasn't a tournament run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see three Yeah, so anyway, I get ready on your Netflix style, we'll you know, be interesting. We'll see what happens. We won't know it all April, but probably not gonna be great. They found nine to twenty two eighty seven Little Cheaters, little Netflix documentary The Little UK Football will take your calls very back. It's kiss I can't I was gonna sing there. I'm glad keep going. See it was going through the Big d and it is in Dallas. Uh yeah. People were showing me some of the other hosts that came after Joey Grecil. They're not that Clark Gables grandson, did it?

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Speaker 3: Clark Gables grandson from God with the Wind? Really he was one of the hosts.

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Speaker 2: He was one of the host There was a guy whose name was like Tommy grand How do I know this stuff? See sometimes I can't even remember shading like my code to get into like various accounts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I know all the hosts of Cheaters.

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Speaker 3: I never saw it outside Joy Gregor. He set the bar so high I don't want to see anybody else.

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Speaker 2: He was great. The technology is great. I'm telling you. If you get bored and you're like, well, there's nothing like for instance, tonight's a debate, I'm skipping it. I watched cheaters. I'm gonna watch cheaters. Don't need the debate. Like, well, first of all, all the debate's gonna do is make me anxious because I don't you know, the last debate our candidate ended up dropping out after it. This one, I just I don't want to watch the debate. Plus, like, it drives me crazy to watch people debate because I'm like, why don't you just say this? And then they don't.

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Speaker 1: It's liars, That's what they should call it.

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Speaker 2: I have I have no, I have no I'm going to watch something else other than the debate. I'm already trying to figure out I may move on election, like for like, just walk because it's you know, I've said this before. For me, it's the same with UK sporting events. It's not the results. It's the waiting that is the hardest part. It's not the the UK. With the UK South Carolina game, once they lost, it wasn't a big deal, but the anxiety of waiting for the loss Ryan is is kind of where I get where it happens for me.

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Speaker 3: So the build up of seeing and watching these two people debate is more no.

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Speaker 2: Watching them debate and then going well is this going well? Is this going bad? And plus I don't want to hear these people. There's nothing anyone's gonna say that's gonna change anybody's mind, right, like so so well, I mean maybe some people's mind, it's not gonna change my mind. It's probably not gonna change most of the people's listening's mind. So like really kind of like, what's the point? You know?

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Speaker 4: Am I bad American? That this is the first I've heard that there's a debate tonight. You didn't even know there was a debate tonight. It's the only one they're gonna come Yeah, I don't know where it is. Thank you very much. You can be free to come over if you want and watch it.

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Speaker 2: Like there's uh yeah, I mean I I we need to have them and I and there may be people out there for whom it will change their mind. But it's like Donald Trump's been in our lives for a decade. You either like Himer, you don't at this point that you're not gonna see something Shannon and go You know, I hadn't thought about it one way like you either like him? Er you don't, and so it's kind of to me like a waste of time.

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Speaker 1: Yet, Yeah, it's just gonna be who can get people out to vote, and it's just gonna come down to Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Like all this is just all the everything that's gonna happen for the next two months is completely irrelevant. All you gotta do is go see what Pennsylvania does, and whatever they do is what's gonna happen. I don't know how Pennsylvania ended up in charge of this country, Ryan, but that's where we are. Whatever they do is what we all have to deal with.

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Speaker 3: I'm like you, I never thought these debates meant one thing one way or the other, but then the last one did end up meaning something.

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Speaker 2: It was, but that was because Joe was so bad. Ye, Like, I guess that could happen is one of them could just fall over and fall asleep and then that would be over. But we've been to Pennsylvania. Did they deserve all this power? Yes? They got the world, that's true.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and they've got the Hirst.

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Speaker 2: I mean part of it is somebody could say, and I actually think this is true. In some ways. The demographics of Pennsylvania are sort of like America, you have a real country part in the western part, you have industry, you have a big city, you have suburbs, a lot of suburbs. So like you Kicklsburg, you have Picklesburg. I have two big cities actually, so you know, I mean, I guess that's what they would say. I just feel like we give that state too much power.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, anti Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: I'm not anti. It's just like this whole election, everything is just gonna be what that state does, and then it's over. Who's next? Richie, Richie?

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, Richie, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Richie, Ritchie, Richie put us out, put us off of speaker, and like, yeah, just talk to me normal, Okay, go ahead?

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Speaker 6: Who are Okay, long time, first.

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Speaker 2: Time that's not off speaker, but go ahead, Richie.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I just want to say it.

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Speaker 1: You just flushed the toilet.

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Speaker 2: Did you just flush the toilet? Richie?

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Speaker 6: No, I did not open the door and I walked outside so it wouldn't such echo.

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Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha. What do you got for me?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 6: No, I'm a long time, first time who are? I just want to say I'm a huge March students fan. Uh and I'm tired of sharing these Kentucky fans being so pessimistic just because of one game. We need to be positive. Next game is gonna be bad. Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me give me the case for being positive. So, like, if you were to say to the audience that you want them to be positive about the rest of the season, give me the case for how you can be positive.

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Speaker 6: I'll say one thing, why not you can?

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Speaker 2: That's not an answer why that's like just that's just a slogan. I want you to give me an argument for why fans should be positive.

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Speaker 6: Because he brought us from the bottom to somewhat the middle, I guess. But uh no, I mean he's brought us from from the bottom to to some somewhat respectable. Why why not still believe in me?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I appreciate the call. That's not the fiery pep talk, Shannon, I really want it. But yeah, he brought the bottom to the somewhat bottom bottom. Yeah, I don't. I don't think we're gonna put that one out a T shirt. He took us from the bottom to the somewhat respectable. I guess that's not gonna be one. I think that we'll get a lot. So you want you want me to make the case for you want me to make the positive case. Yes, okay, I'm not saying I totally believe this.

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Speaker 3: But we need a little uplift message.

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Speaker 2: Here's gonna be my positive case, all right. Every year Kentucky has a stinkery do Usually they have it in the middle to end of the year. This year they had it to get There are a couple plays that if you go back and look at it's insane. They didn't go our way. Remember the fumble that we had four guys around it and then South Carolina got it right the fourth and one. Okay, there's a couple plays that I think if they go a different way, you're in the game. I'm not saying you want to win, but you're in. It's a bad loss. There are still seven wins out there on the schedule, and you don't even have to beat a great team necessarily to get to those seven. All right. If they do that, seven and five historically is a very good year for Kentucky, and there's very unlikely that next year's schedule will be as hard as this one. That's the case. It's not particularly compelling case to me, but it's the case Florida, Auburn, Vandy and Louisville. That's a beatable run, okay. And the two hardest of those games, which might be Auburn and Louisville Drew are in ours. That to me is the compelling case. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, Auburn and Florida, those are big logos, but they're not very good this year.

00:22:08
Speaker 2: No, they're not.

00:22:08
Speaker 4: They could both be in shambles by the time each of those games roll around. So as bad as Kentucky looked, that's one you can still you know, look to is hoping to get a win.

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Speaker 2: And at least Mark Stoops didn't say what Hugh Frees said, which was of all the plays in the game, only one of them was the coach's fault. The rest was all the players. He said that, he goes, we did the right thing. They just screwed up. Well, there you go. We'll be right back. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney, called TJ. He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 6: Now.

00:22:39
Speaker 1: More of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 2: He got us from the bottom to the middle, I guess, so start from the in the middle, from the bottom to the middle cat parenthesies somewhat print the shirts Kentucky branded. I'm fired up. I'm more fired up than I was. Right, well, I wasn't fired up at all, So I mean that's worth that's worth something.

00:23:08
Speaker 4: Still in a little bit of shock. What happened on Saturday usually doesn't linger this much. I'm a good bounce back fan. I usually just need a good sleep then i'm back. This one's lingered.

00:23:18
Speaker 2: I'm in shock that it happened. Just the way it happened to to.

00:23:21
Speaker 3: Me was very How can they not get in the end zone? You know, and there's a great chance they made not get in the end zone this Saturday. That would be awful. Two straight games.

00:23:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're only I mean we're last in the Power five in passing, which is not what you want.

00:23:36
Speaker 4: No, I still can't get over my got cock's getting graded as a five five.

00:23:42
Speaker 2: I mean telling you traffic cones get a three and we got did you hear two?

00:23:46
Speaker 3: Stoop said something last night about the reason they blew had a couple blown coverages because the technology messed up in their helmets.

00:23:53
Speaker 2: What do you mean the technology messed up? What does that mean?

00:23:56
Speaker 4: It eventually turns off at a certain time, and I guess the guys wearing the helmets didn't see that they switched to a hand signal. They were just relying on what they had heard and didn't know that some hand signals had gone around.

00:24:07
Speaker 2: Yeah. That sounds like an excuse to me. I'm not.

00:24:09
Speaker 1: It's an organization problem.

00:24:10
Speaker 2: That's our look. I mean that it's we were just talking about this here in the restaurant a second ago. There's always going to be a good organization. Hello. Uh. She did not seem like she she knew who I was. I was like hello, and she just sort of looked at it. That's when doing a good organization. Any major event, and I'll conclude a football game is like this. You can have the best laid plans, but you have to be able to pivot, right because there's always going to be a hiccup. Yes, of course, and good organizations and good leaders can hiccup. It can actually pivot. I actually think that might be the best symbol of what a leader is. Can you pivot in the moment to adjust whatever is happening, you know, just using this restaurant. Sometimes a piece of technology will go down, or like on Saturday, the Kentucky Blue Light beer tap broke, and a good leader sits there and says, Okay, maybe what makes sense is for us to put it on a different tap so that and use the beer we don't sell and replace it for the day, right, But that you have to make that decision in the moment. Sure, So if the technology's not working, okay, But a good leader figures out it's not working and says, ignore that, blah blah blah blah blah. You don't go afterwards and go well, they couldn't hear.

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Speaker 4: And so I was actually trying to communicate with Kentucky's defense here when the technology went out recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just that doesn't to me. That's not an excuse. One person writes, Matt, did you end up getting in your car and driving around on Saturday? Yes? I just left after the third corp? Did you that? I'll be honest, I even watched the fourth corps.

00:25:47
Speaker 4: I actually was at the game and left in the third quarter to go to the parking lot.

00:25:50
Speaker 2: I went to the UH, I went to the Indian restaurant. I was like, I'm gonna have some chicken vndaloo, and that sounds good. I'm gonna eat garlic non and then to get ready for the postgame show. And I'm not gonna say which restaurant, but I go to one regularly. It's normally very good. Saturday was the worst meal I've ever had there. And I think there was just something in the water in this city that nothing, nothing was gonna be. I'm gonna Givehi another chance. But like it was the Kentucky South Carolina performance of Indian.

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Speaker 4: Food, right, they'll be Football just ruined your taste books maybe, So who's up next?

00:26:25
Speaker 2: Earl? Earl?

00:26:26
Speaker 8: How are you?

00:26:27
Speaker 2: Earl? Speaking of Earl James Earl Jones died. Yeah, Yes, James Earl Jones died ninety three years old. Wow, if not everybody knows you for Star Wars. Also in your favorite movie Dreams? Which is your favorite movie?

00:26:39
Speaker 3: Love him in Field of Dreams. Yeah, he was also I think the voice of I heard.

00:26:44
Speaker 2: This as he was. He was the CN invoice.

00:26:46
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

00:26:47
Speaker 2: You didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yes, what a great voice and a great actor. But go ahead, Earl, Earl? All right? Rest in peace? Drums Carld Jones and.

00:27:04
Speaker 1: Jay and Lindon Jay and Lindon go ahead.

00:27:07
Speaker 8: Hey man, When I get stressed and all this about from the football, dig into the numbers a little, and I think to be positive, I think, let's remember the two most dire situations we've had with Stoops here whereas where he came back from injuries, the Stephen Johnson here and the Lynn bowdenir right, I mean we backed a fan base, we thought we were done. I looked at this. The last five years we've been favored in eighteen SEC games. I think that facts amazing from where we came from. We've been underdog those.

00:27:39
Speaker 2: Do you know how many of those did we win?

00:27:41
Speaker 8: Just at twelve, we've won twelve of eighteen were favored. We've been underdog twenty four times and we won six of those. And if you look at the numbers, he always throws in a stinker when we when we have an upset and beat somebody, and he tends on the years that we beat him. We're supposed to not beat the underdogs, but.

00:28:03
Speaker 2: When we've when we've beaten, when we've pulled a little bit of an upset, though it's rarely been the level of team that we're playing this year, right, So like the upsets for and you correct me if I'm wrong. I think the upsets that we've had have often been games where it was like l s U that year or Florida. On paper, they look like they be good, but then they ended up not being good, but we still beat them. I mean, what is our best Stoops win? Like like when you looked at the end of the year, you went that team was pretty good.

00:28:38
Speaker 8: Well, that's the pars Louisville team.

00:28:42
Speaker 2: Is that the best? And maybe yeah, I don't know that they ended up being yeah, but they ended up not being good. I mean they lost a bad Florida State team and USC.

00:28:58
Speaker 8: Flipping the mojo. Here's what I'm gon and you and Drew know this. I do not bet honor against u K. I'm betting on Georgia this week, and I think it's gonna help us.

00:29:07
Speaker 2: You think it's gonna flip if you be okay, all right, I appreciate it, Jay, it's the flip. I'm trying to think if you were to say, looking back, what is Mark Stoop's best win is? I think it has to be beating Louisville at Louisville with Lamar.

00:29:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we were like what a twenty five point underdog or something.

00:29:25
Speaker 4: Now, it wasn't that much, but it was that much, I remember, and it was so big because I was trying to bet the money line.

00:29:33
Speaker 2: But we were decent that year. We were like seven and four. It wasn't twenty five. I want to say it was twenty four. That would shock me. I mean, I believe I remember trying to better, couldn't at Florida when they snapped the streak, I think it's up there four.

00:29:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awful.

00:29:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that but that's what That's what I mean. At Florida was a huge win for us. But that Florida team ended up not being good. That Florida team I think ended up, didn't They finish like five and seven.

00:30:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, the perception at the time it was a huge program win.

00:30:03
Speaker 2: The same with LSU with Orgeron. At the time that was a big win, but then they ended up not being good. So I guess my question is what is Kentucky's When the season was over, you look back at it and say that was the best win. Probably the Penn State Citrus Ball's gonna be my next one and Louisville on the road.

00:30:24
Speaker 3: I think that's it. Those are the two.

00:30:27
Speaker 2: And while those are good wins, none of those teams are as good as the four teams were playing this year. Is that fair to say?

00:30:36
Speaker 3: That's very fair to say. For the top seven teams in the country we have on our schedule.

00:30:40
Speaker 4: This is some of the hardest we've ever had to play. I mean, what Royan just said is crazy. Four of the top seven in the country and you're going to three of them.

00:30:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's insane. But I mean we got to the middle somewhat. We're climbing somewhat. Who's next? Shit is roy roy twenty eighty seven?

00:31:03
Speaker 7: Go ahead, first time? Call it a long time listener, guys, Good.

00:31:08
Speaker 2: Morning, Who are what's up? Sir?

00:31:11
Speaker 7: Well? I just found an analogy. We're sitting there trying to find things to be optimistic. I'm very disappointed, but you know, our offensive line was horrible, and we've gone from the big blue wall to the red carpet wool welcome.

00:31:26
Speaker 4: Man optimistic and yeah, yeah, I mean it's that's that's what we're gonna have to find.

00:31:32
Speaker 7: I don't know how he's gonna be able to fix that line, because, you know, a quarterback as bad as our passing game on guys. He didn't even have the opportunity to get his first read. He didn't have his progression. He never had the opportunity. And and you know, we can't have ball careers being hit soon as they get the ball. I mean, I mean that that's the biggest concern I have on winning even two or three more games.

00:31:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, way got the short I'm with you. I mean, I I appreciate the call. I cannot judge brought Vander Griff I don't feel like because I don't know how he was supposed to do that. I mean, you know, maybe if he was somebody, like, you know, a Heisman winner, he would have been able to do it. But Drew, I don't even know how you can really judge brought Vander Griff yet. No.

00:32:14
Speaker 4: I mean, it was definitely a bad game, but it's hard to put the majority of that on him. I mean, he still hadn't even hadn't played a full game as a starter at that point from the week before, and then you throw him into that. I could understand why it'd be completely terrified dropping back in the second half the way it looked.

00:32:28
Speaker 2: Do you judge Brock at all? No?

00:32:30
Speaker 3: I mean, he threw a couple bad passes against South Carolina, but for the most part he did zero time, zero opportunity to even settle in and try to find some people. So we have yet to see him I think play his best ability yet.

00:32:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Chucky Wroville opened at twenty six points. That's that is amazing to me. I like we were a bowl team. We should have bet Kentucky. I think you did if I did hammered the spread. Hey.

00:32:56
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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00:34:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember how many points Kentucky was an underdog in that one. Penn State had a good year.

00:34:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we was a big statement game, that was recruiting game. So so I mean it's not true that they have not won any big games. But it's like Max said on the pregame, that South Carolina game, that's an example of the kind of game that you have to get and we not only didn't get it, we got demolished. I really enjoyed last night Ryan the Maning cast they had there. Apparently they're gonna have Bill Belichick on like every other week or whatever. They did a whole half with him, and I felt like I was in football school. Sometimes I didn't understand what they were saying. But you know how you watch people who like really know something and love it, it's kind of fun to watch how excited they are. That's kind of how I felt.

00:34:54
Speaker 3: I missed a halftime show with Willichick on it.

00:34:56
Speaker 2: It wasn't a halftime. They did the whole first half tame first half. The Mannings and Belichick did the whole first half together, and.

00:35:02
Speaker 3: They're breaking down every play.

00:35:04
Speaker 2: Most of them like talking about, like, oh, they're going to do this, and then Belichick and Peyton especially getting mad at the coaches for the things they call, like why don't they call this? And Andrew I really enjoyed it.

00:35:15
Speaker 4: Oh, Manning got real mad about the contract hold out for the forty nine ers.

00:35:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was kind of like he was the Trent Brandon. I dropped the past and he just went off about holding out for contracts.

00:35:26
Speaker 4: Like you didn't get your reps in camp. And then I liked, uh, Bill Belichick and Eli going back and.

00:35:31
Speaker 2: Forth because of their Super Bowl history. Yeah, that was really really good for a peace treaty, and then Adam Sandler was on it. I really like Adam Sandler and he just seems like a nice guy.

00:35:40
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler, guy that you wouldn't want to be buddies with. I didn't get to see it last night either, though, let's go check.

00:35:45
Speaker 2: It seems like a guy that's just like a good dude.

00:35:48
Speaker 3: He's a fan of one of the ta fan of the.

00:35:50
Speaker 2: Jets, and he's got like a new something coming out, but he's a fan of the Jets.

00:35:54
Speaker 4: I mean, the overall wasn't good, but Aaron Rodgers let him in the early on to a touchdown.

00:36:00
Speaker 2: Is he back back back at your boy? Damn? Yeah, you and Shannon are like the whole fan club. Yeah, he's the worst. Like I took I took no joy in him throwing the interception that ended the game at all. He also did you notice, like, did you see the coach try to talk to him and he just was looking away. Oh, with the tablet. Yeah, the coach has got the tablet and he's like trying to explain Aaron's just looking the other way. I'm like, kind of intentionally he was kind of intentionally. I'm sending a message, and there's no way like at this point in his career, I don't think.

00:36:32
Speaker 3: You'd want to be teammates with him, you know they you would think they still had a little magic left in him.

00:36:39
Speaker 2: Why would you think that he hasn't been good since twenty twenty one.

00:36:42
Speaker 3: Well, that's still pretty good, he says. You know, he didn't play last year, and then the year before he wasn't very good. But before that he was good.

00:36:50
Speaker 2: I know, well okay, but so was Joe Montana.

00:36:54
Speaker 1: He didn't forget to throwing football though.

00:36:56
Speaker 2: I mean, you want to get okay, but still, I mean everyone gets bad at some point, like or else, Johnny Unanus would still be playing, like at some.

00:37:04
Speaker 3: Point you Tom Brady probably still should play.

00:37:06
Speaker 2: Maybe, But but but he's he can't be worse than.

00:37:10
Speaker 1: He seems to never He seems to never know when to end a sentence, and you notice, like or.

00:37:17
Speaker 2: When to start talking. It's like, you know, like a hawk, you do radio enough for television, you innately feel. One of the things Ryan's the best death that he doesn't get credit for is he innately knows when to talk and when not to talk. We almost have like a sixth sense don't you think that, like from the first day we did this ship Drews and Shait, we all kind of do that Tom has the like third sense he had. He does not know when to talk and he does not know when to stop Talking's.

00:37:45
Speaker 3: What Jennifer ask me this, Do you think they'll actually maybe do some training with him this week? He was so bad? Like they maybe do some practice.

00:37:52
Speaker 2: They should, but like, yeah, he did apparently like eight practice games, which means this was after he practiced. Shame you imagine what those were. Like We'll say he wasn't He wasn't the worst announcer. I heard Colt McCoy, who did the Nebraska Colorado game. Go look at his clips. Really he sounded like a child that had been handed a microphone for the first time. No offense to him, Colt, but he would just go. Imagine like the most scared person you've ever heard do television. That's what it was. He's good TV background a little bit, right. You remember how bad Shane Battier was at it? Oh?

00:38:33
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I think with Brady is when he did talk, which wasn't often, he didn't have much to say to be one of the greats. He'd be like, they don't pick up this third down. It's it's going straight forth down. It's like you top, we know, we get the rules of football.

00:38:45
Speaker 2: Was the worst person you can ever remember.

00:38:47
Speaker 1: You remember the guy that was Monday Night Football was really nervous. He was a sideline.

00:38:51
Speaker 2: Yeah he was sideline that that was that felt bad to that guy. He was a sideline reporter. He wasn't in a starring role. Yeah he was. He was. I know you're talking about. He was really bad. He had a famous line where he was like, I can't remember something about the Broncos name was Diego. I think who's the worst one you can remember?

00:39:12
Speaker 3: There's been some disappointments on Monday Night Football, Rush Limball, Dennis Miller.

00:39:16
Speaker 2: They ever think that was a good idea?

00:39:18
Speaker 3: I don't know.

00:39:19
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if tomorrow they announced that Sean Hannity were calling the football Rachel Maddow.

00:39:26
Speaker 3: It was a huge failure. Dennis Miller, I don't think worked.

00:39:29
Speaker 2: I like this. He did it for like two or three years. Yeah, who's Sergio dipp Sergio's Shane.

00:39:36
Speaker 1: I's Shane.

00:39:41
Speaker 2: He was interviewing that Russian guy at the draft, right, Yeah, And he was like my mom say, my dad say, and then Shane just goes, well, that's that's great. All right, go ahead, Madison, Madison, go ahead. Yea.

00:39:55
Speaker 9: I know y'all haven't heard from me for a while, but now you have.

00:40:01
Speaker 2: That's good. That's a Tom Brady thing like I haven't spoken, but now I am. Alright, go ahead, Battison.

00:40:08
Speaker 9: I got two things for you. One, what's a percentage chance at Stoops it comes back next year considering we have like a top twenty five recruiting class coming in? And Two do you think if we don't go to a bowl, how do y'all see our recruiting recruiting players d commit or what y'all?

00:40:33
Speaker 2: Some might, but again I do think with the nil, I appreciate the call. You're actually chances of decommitting going go down because you're going in part because of the money. So and if lons of money's still there, I think that that would be less likely. We yesterday did the percentage chance they turned this season around. Let's do the percentage chance. Mark Stoops is the coach next year for any reason, Okay, for any reason, whether it's his choice or not, I'll make you go first run you set them the.

00:41:05
Speaker 3: Mark, the mark mark. I think we're definitely on the on the back end of the mark Stoops era. I think we're within a couple of years. So for next year, I'm still gonna go.

00:41:19
Speaker 2: Fifty. That's a low number. That's a low number.

00:41:22
Speaker 4: True, I'm going sixty five percent. I was gonna go sixty, Shannon, what would you say?

00:41:29
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go higher than all of you guys. I think he's definitely back next year, at least for one more season. I'm gonna go eighty.

00:41:34
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean fifty, sixty and sixty five are not high numbers when you consider about and again, I big chances of him being fired are zero zero. So that tells you what my thought is as to to what would what would happen. We'll take a break A five nine twenty two eighty seven. It gives a shout, it's our two KSR.