#607 - We’re Talking About Current Stuff! Ft. Hosts of God's Country

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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to the episode. And before we get into the current stuff, I want to bring in Dan and Rita Isbelt, who have the God's Country Podcast, which I'm a fan of. I'm mostly a fan of the episode that you guys did with me. My favorite episode the one you guys. I watch it every week.

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Speaker 2: It was our least performing matter. All the views are from me, so perfect before the hasn't here.

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Speaker 1: Uh so you guys check out the God's Country Podcast. These guys here are very talented songwriters.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys ever try to do.

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Speaker 1: The im hoping? I'm not insulting you guys, but but almost I don't care, right because I like, I know you guys. Did you guys try hard to the artist thing?

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Speaker 3: Wait, this is a kind of funny story.

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Speaker 2: Take a second. So there was a plan. There was a plan.

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Speaker 3: So I had been in town and my buddy Jonathan Singleton, we had this scheme.

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Speaker 2: We were like, dude, my brother fured it out.

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Speaker 3: We really great singer. We'll write all the songs, produce all this stuff, and he can go do the road stuff that we don't.

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Speaker 2: Want to do. He's miserable, he don't know who he is.

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Speaker 3: His idea will just burn him out right, and.

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Speaker 2: So he doesn't have an identity. Ye.

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Speaker 3: Similar We wrote a bunch of songs and I started working with Scooter Caruso and really like building this and built a five or six song EP that was like kind of bulletproof, right. So we start mixing and mastering. In the meantime, we booked some shows. We start playing some shows. He's like, we be in the band. I'm like, ah, I don't really want to do that, but maybe for a few times, you know. So we go do this run, we come back and then he calls and he's like, hey, we got I got a couple of acoustic shows next week.

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Speaker 2: You got to go. And I was like, dude, I'm going to deer Camp with dad. Like where you talking about? We kicked you off?

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Speaker 3: You're started like. He was like, dude, what y'all cooking ribbies? I was like, yeah, it's a week. It's the bow open there, like we're going. I was like, I think I just want to be a songwriter. He was like, I'm canceling shows. If y'all think y'all going to Deer Company without me, It's never happened.

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Speaker 2: It end. That was the end of the artist's career. Yeah, I mean like deer camping in red bys Man and dude, I always was like I was. I was on the fence of like being a being an artist, being a songwriter and I and I and I moved to town obviously with the plan to be an artist, but fell in love with writing songs, especially when I was writing with Jonathan and him at the Gate.

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Speaker 1: And so when you came here, though, you thought it was going to be artists, because that's probably what you knew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean all I knew how to do was sing. Oh. He used to get those church ladies worked. I'd be saying the same song two and three times. He always the voice. I can only sing that, you know, I get yeah, necessary kick us off. I can't only a I probably shut that down to yeah, yeah, they're gonna catch the met.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can speak it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I can't el We'll see.

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Speaker 2: We have we have full creative control on our podcast, so we can do whatever we want.

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Speaker 1: You still can't sing songs because you get sued.

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Speaker 2: Songs all the time. But no, it's kind of worse. Yeah, like every episode of so.

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Speaker 1: Loud, we used to do that too. They shut us down.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe we just cut that part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, good for you guys. If you want to hear songs sang illegally.

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Speaker 2: God's Country podcast, it's covers. Does that matter even worse?

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Speaker 1: Actually?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, isn't there some blanket lessons out there that covers that lead? Can we just get out of here? Can we just start over?

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Speaker 1: Well, what's funny about that story is that's kind of what Brian Wilson did with the Beach Boys. He stayed back and wrote and got everything ready and set the band out, and so the Beach Boys will be traveling all over touring. Way back in the day, Brian Wilson's like, I don't want to go tour. I'll let them go to concert. I'll take my cut, and then when they come back, I'll hop in. But I've got everything ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Kind of the gig, kind of the best gig truthfully.

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Speaker 2: And then but there were no stakes involved in that story.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's probably songs are probably not great steaks someone we're talking stuff.

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Speaker 1: I love the idea, though, of creating something that can go out and make money not having to do it like musical to me too, like five or six years ago. I probably told you guys a story, but uh me, Nicole Gallian, who's a massive writer, and Ross Kopperman I went and I said, hey, I have this idea for a hologram artist that opens for like five five tours at once. And I said, let's write songs. And so we created this group called Neon People, and we went and we wrote every day and recorded all these songs masterdom. Nicole was singing it. We were manipulating the voice a little bit. No idea was we can have somebody be the baby opener on like three or four tours. And there were great songs and very cheap.

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Speaker 2: It was split everything that comes out, and so all.

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Speaker 1: The streams, we all the money of the touring revenue. And then Nicole ended up being a president of record label and she had to like quit. She's like I can't because I was.

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Speaker 2: Like integrity kind against it.

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Speaker 1: What the heck it's up? It's up on.

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Speaker 3: People was read as well, jumping off the fence to be a songwriter artist. It was you guys, grow where west right where Alabama, Missippi and Tennessee meet the county above that's Harden County.

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Speaker 2: Where was town then Memphis, Savannah, Georgia, Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Oh, but Florence is where we took our dates. You know what I'm saying, and shout out red Law or Cartt thirty minutes away.

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Speaker 1: So then where would concerts come that was closest.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because we're kind of from a melting pot of like a lot of different influences right there. You had rockabillity from Jackson, Tennessee, blues from Memphis you had to be swaggy type stuff from it came out of Memphis, and also North miss South Mississippi, Delta blues from South Misissippi. And then you had country music from Nashville.

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Speaker 2: And then you had the swampers and the funk stuff from Florence. So all of that kind of blended. And our dad's a Baptist preacher that in the obviously Bible belt, there's.

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Speaker 3: A ton of you know, Christian music going on there. Ham's going on too, So you got that influence.

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Speaker 1: Could you guys have secular music?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 3: Growing up we could watch TA in you'd have to go you have to go upstairs and turn it down if you watch t r L.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to do. Until you didn't get to go to real like big pop culture.

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Speaker 3: I mean my first concert was Billy Joe Elton John and.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: How old were you.

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Speaker 2: He too, dude, Our parents weren't like like I hear stories now, especially talking to people like that's all they did when they were little, is like their parents took them on the road to go see Alabama or go see you know, Grateful Dead or whoever it is. And like our parents were never no, they liked music, they liked music, but they just we just work. It's a lot of working as expensive to take a bunch of kids to go see shows. So like we had. We saw a ton of like quartets come through the church though. Man, like all those all those like traveling bands that we come through and doing doing like the church stuff.

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Speaker 3: We went to all those because they would all come through our churchet. Yeah, like harmony, gospel quartets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you end up in music.

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Speaker 2: I think our mom would.

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Speaker 3: Have loved if we had been a gospel we'll singing yeah, yeah, you know, like doing the thing.

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Speaker 2: But it just for me.

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Speaker 3: I loved the storytelling aspect of country music. And my dad's a killer storyteller too. I've seen him hold court at deer camps and churches and pavilions and parking lots with random p McDonald's lines, just captivating these people with stories. And I think that's what I always wanted to be that, and so I kind of wrote poems and things like that, and then I didn't want anybody to know because that was seen as effeminate in my small town stuff.

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Speaker 2: And so then I.

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Speaker 3: Realized, if I get girls, if I put those.

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Speaker 2: Words and stuff to music.

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Speaker 3: So I learned how to play guitar, and from there we already knew how to harmonize because of the church, in the in the singing groups we were in, and it just kind of I went ban ban Ban band, had a big band in Mississippi state, started getting some looks in Nashville. Didn't know it, but we were getting the run up here and just ended up falling in love with being a song right. I also hated the road. I'm just not a road guy at all.

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Speaker 1: In your hometown, you have pizza hut, hell, yeah, absolutely, We were talking about it recently, how I don't see any standalone pizza hights like we talked about in the build, the building, the shape building.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like the pizza hut building.

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Speaker 1: And you know the shape of pizza hut building you see one because sometimes you see a dentist office and a pizza hut building that used to be a pizza hut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can dress it up however you want to. There were personal pants cooked in that, dude.

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Speaker 2: What a great? What a great? Uh? What a great marketing schemes to make your building one of a con.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, except what you want to sell.

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Speaker 2: If your pizza hut though, I mean, did you guys do book itt ever?

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Speaker 3: Yes, dude, no, he said he didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: We did accelerated Reader, which.

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Speaker 3: Is kind of the same thing I remember it swapping with when I was in book It.

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Speaker 1: That's probably cause Pizza hu didn't want to pay the give away the free pizzas anymore.

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Speaker 2: Then. I promise you if there was, if there was a program where you got personal pants for free, I would have been in that chain.

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Speaker 3: Bro, I'm still wearing those personal pants. I read like a something No me too?

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Speaker 1: Like in May one, it launched back at Pizza Hut this year where they're doing book it again.

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Speaker 2: And for me, can anybody do it? Can I do it? If there was I'd I'd be reading Johnny Cash The Life in the lyrics right now to get forty points for two personal pants.

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Speaker 1: It was such a big deal in my school, like socioeconomically, we were a very poor school right in areas that didn't have money. You could read and actually provide dinner. It was a It was a culture changer for us. And I love to read, but I could read two books a week for sure, and that was not only dinner for my sister and I. It was you can tell me.

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Speaker 3: You provided for your family by reading. I'm saying that I'm not going to laugh at that.

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Speaker 1: I know it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I think I want to laugh, but a good, good way, but also awesome.

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Speaker 1: When I saw it was coming back, I was like, dang, I don't think people understand for kids that didn't have anything.

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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't have never understood that.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's because I would. You could read a book and a quiz on it back in the day, and then you get your personal pan. That that what the cost was though gas going into town because we didn't have a pizza hut, so we had to go into Hot Springs. Yeah, so you're driving, but two personal pan pizzas would be because it was four pieces, three pieces for dinner, one for breakfast the next day that that that.

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Speaker 2: Was two meals for each of us. Absolutely, dude, that's awesome. I love never considered that. We've never our town never like I've never We've never been in that position, you know, with our with our family or anything like that. And honestly, I really never saw that in our town in that way. But that thinking about it that way is Man, that's awesome. I don't remember you specifically talking about That's one. I mean, that's the part of your foundation, is your your very food driven if you don't have food.

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Speaker 1: My favorite episode of the God's Country podcast, Yeah, one of the worst episodes, but worst performing the most meaning most.

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Speaker 2: That's what matters, right, especially in our industry.

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Speaker 1: Do you when you guys book guess? Something that I deal with is like I can get a really good guess, but if they're doing like nine things at once, it doesn't do that well because what have.

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Speaker 2: You made non things that one.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, I'll just pick an artist off my wall, so I'm not picking anybody specifically, So I'm gonna say John Mayer because John Mayer is on my favorite arts of all time. If I have him in and we do a great hour together, but he's also doing nine other podcasts around the same time, like a media tour. Oh, it's so watered down that even a great guest is not gonna get the numbers that the great guests should get. If the great guest is doing so many shows at.

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Speaker 3: Once, you mean like ours and yours, Well they're.

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Speaker 1: On the same level. But I'm just saying, like, if they.

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Speaker 2: Was in which direction, which charts are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: Ding? Do you guys ever see that, Like you have somebody that you're like, man, this is gonna be awesome, and the interview is fantastic, But they're doing so many things at once that it possibly doesn't reflect in the numbers.

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Speaker 3: We kind of have to say from the jump, hey man, we're not really like your media training guys, like you can be here as free in here as you want be. I feel like that does that helps open something?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But you can still see see some well see some of them still they don't know how to. They don't. It's just so ingrained in them and trained in them that they go straight forward like it's the it's the first thing they do is go toward media training. And I get that because like you see that, you see the clips and the stories or the videos or whatever that that we clip and put on. Mostly honestly, like the ones that hit and pop off are like the kind of the sporadic, like the thing that wasn't planned, the story that wasn't planned, or just like the authentic realness you know of of storytelling. Those usually do the best for us. But I can I think I think that we're probably fall on the same boat. Is like, because most of the days when you catch those artists there, it's media day, it's podcasting. Yeah, so they're doing four after yours.

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Speaker 1: And if it's a fan of theirs who you'd like to come to your podcast, they're possibly going to go listen to their person do any of the four sure, And so it just tends to be water itself down. If I have somebody and that's doing a bunch of interviews in a bunch of places because they have a TV show coming out or something, I really got to do that for like my own people, because they're everywhere, and.

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Speaker 2: You got to find a way to do it different, right, Like like do you have a you're like, man, I need a certain I need a specific game. I need to play with this this, this artist or this guest to make it interesting or spur it along or anything like that. Like do you go into it preparing anything like that?

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Speaker 1: Way to do them in Spanish? If that's the case, dope, hit them with them.

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Speaker 2: I feel.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a good question. No, I talk a lot in mind. I think sometimes people will be like, hey, why do you talk so much when you're interviewing people. It's like, this is my show too, dude, amen, like and honestly, and you're an interesting cat. I can bring on the biggest guests, and this is something that we've seen with with so much data, I can bring on the greatest A list guest. And that's still the episodes that performed the best for me to when I have no guests at all. That's the weirdest part is it will get so pumped because we have somebody come in. Let's say it John Mayra, and John Mayra comes in and crushes it, and then I'm like, hey, I'm gonna be a solo episode the next time, and it's only going to be you know, fun stuff. The booet I'm talking about BOOKT and it's and that will perform so much higher. Yeah, and that's a weird thing. So I am like, well, I'm just gonna talk with them.

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Speaker 3: Then, Yeah, we get popped a lot with Do you guys sing with every guest that comes on your singers?

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Speaker 1: That's the thing? Have they not heard about the band? You try to start with your brother?

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Speaker 2: That's the whole entire point of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like me too, Like I'm not an interviewer. I'm somebody who likes to talk with people. You guys are real life successful songwriters and singers, so of course you're going to be singing with people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and that's kind of archtick too, is like we don't it doesn't really feel like an interview to us ever, Like, and that's what I think sometimes. I Mean, there's a there's a certain couple that come to mind, But I'm saying, like it's still people ask me, like, man, do you enjoy the podcast? And I'm still genuinely saying, yeah, I really do, because it feels like I'm having a conversation with somebody for the first time, and it really does, Like it doesn't feel like work when it, And I know that's a cliche or whatever, but sitting down and having a conversation and getting to know about somebody is it doesn't feel like work to me. Still there are times and days that it does, but ours are not interviews. It doesn't feel like it feels like it's more of a conversation.

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Speaker 1: The two times it feels like work to me is if I'm exhausted, and that sucks and I feel bad for the person who's coming in. Yeah, I end up doing a better job because I'm aware that I'm exhausted. It's kind of funny how that works, because I'm like, I do not feel good. I'm so tired, and it kind of focuses me the level. Yeah, so that sucks if I'm not feeling good. And two, man, if people come in so media trained and there are artists in town who I like as people, but they are so trained and big artists, so I can think of it. I'm not going to say their names. I'm friends with them that like, they have their stories down to beats and it's not good for an hour long yeah, no conversation podcast.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you, this is what actually happens in media training, Like we obviously are not famous enough for anybody to care about training.

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Speaker 1: I've never done media training. Okay, so I've led sports athletes and media training because they get interviewed and they have no background talking to a microphone. Sure, So I've gone to universities and walked people through media training, meaning if you don't know what to say, here's where you go. And you're trying to teach some people, athletes, especially the most cliche things to say that mean nothing.

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Speaker 2: Athletes is trying to grate. Here, you say nothing, you get off my teammate.

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Speaker 1: They will meet prepared.

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Speaker 2: That's when you hear the same things over now. Yeah. Yeah, and those guys know how to ball, dude like, and they don't. They don't know how to talk and they don't have to because they're so freaking good at their job and their giants. Well yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's like a jockey and they're not giants, but.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be a microphone in their face and they've got to say something. They gotta say something.

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Speaker 1: I've worked with some new business like new artists in town secretly not I mean, I'm not hiding from it, but I'll get a call from a friend who's like a manager being like, hey, you just teach this person how to be trained but not sound trained, and that's just not getting yourself in trouble, Like that's all media training is now.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's some that just can't help it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think some of the people getting in trouble are trained to get in trouble like it's it's purposeful obvious.

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Speaker 2: Oh for for like clickbait kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: For sure, and they're smart about it.

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Speaker 2: Go viral moments. Yeah, that's a good. Yeah, I just thought they were dumb.

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Speaker 1: Some are that.

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Speaker 2: Well it's that way too. Yeah, I too.

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Speaker 1: But the hour long interviews are almost impossible with people that come in with an absolute agenda.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty easy to pick up too.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty easy to pick up. And we've had a few lately that.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, have it, have the floor.

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Speaker 2: It's not really go through go through your bullet points, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Do it and get it over with. Yeah, And if I feel that in one of ours, we're about to we're going to exhaust what you want.

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Speaker 3: It almost be like me talking about God's Country that airs every Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: On Uh was it anywhere anywhere you get podcast? But that happens like this Tuesday when Averyanna is coming on. She was great.

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Speaker 3: She was as good anyway back to your thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had like two months ago.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 1: People can scroll up and see that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's grown a lot and done a lot of cool things.

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Speaker 1: It's probably a lot of new stuff.

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Speaker 2: She actually took a hiatus from podcast because she hated your so much ours because ours and numbers were so big, says she had to come.

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Speaker 1: When she was sitting in here, she was like, this is the last one I want to do, because if I have to do freaking God's Country, that means I have fallen off.

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Speaker 2: That's so I know.

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Speaker 3: I know that's really got Maybe songwriters go to die there to hang tight.

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Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

00:19:01
Speaker 1: Did followers from the Big Purge?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Did we we read about that? Did we lose anything on that?

00:19:08
Speaker 1: Do we lose any?

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Speaker 2: No bots for us, But it's authentic over there. Bro. We could try to.

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Speaker 1: I lost like twelve thousand. Yeah, And these bots have to exist, they have to follow a bunch of people. And I was looking at some of the.

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Speaker 2: Folks, so you don't. So it's not like people are going and paying for these bots and then when the bots get gone, they're gone.

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Speaker 3: These bots are actually just just fake accounts that are following people both.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there are ways to buy. The reason I would never buy is because you're gonna spend money and they're gonna wipe it away at.

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Speaker 2: Some eventually, some point. That's right. I feel sad too, to buy followers. It feels real sad, was.

00:19:43
Speaker 3: Telling him, do you remember when they did this? They had the big thing on TikTok where people were losing their stuff and there were some people literally committing suicide.

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Speaker 2: That's their job living followers. That was crazy to me, man, that was crazy.

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Speaker 1: Is that real?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, when they had the big TikTok.

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Speaker 1: I remember they were going to cancel TikTok, the big TikTok thing. When you say the big TikTok thing, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not very versed in this. Yes, please telling you.

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Speaker 3: I remember seeing a video of a dude crime Sam. I had X amount of followers, and now I have this. Because of this, I've lost all my sponsorships. I don't know how I'm a feed my family. I'm not saying that guy did it, but I'm just saying there there are some people that have built legit businesses gosh out of those media terrifying.

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Speaker 1: And then you lose them you can buy. I would never because that's just throwing away money. It's temper that's a temporary investment. Hopefully people see you have these followers, get your clout, you get to be on other things. But there are bots that just follow big accounts as well, because they have to prove they're a real person. And you can find a bot real easy if their fault. If they have they're not following anybody and they're just posting like crazy. So there are strategies to create bots as well where you don't have to buy them, and the biggest accounts get the most bought follows, not even purchased. Oh so that's why like Taylor lost five.

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Speaker 2: Million, five million, I mean she have three hundred million million. Uh is that more people than they're in the world.

00:21:13
Speaker 1: I just pulled the one.

00:21:16
Speaker 2: That's how you know they're ten billion. They're fifty billion people following.

00:21:20
Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner lost three point seven millions. Landa Gomez lost six million, Beyonce lost five million, Baber lost four million.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, water weight, right, if I can't, we said I dropped eighteen past, you'd be like, hell, yeah, man, congratulations. But if I said, well, it's I actually just took this hydroxy cut sponsor us and uh and and because of that, it's just a bunch of water weight, you'd be like, well.

00:21:48
Speaker 1: That these bots are waterweight. Uh So yeah, I didn't know if you guys lost any with your wildly successible podcast.

00:21:54
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, bro, if we did, I wouldn't even know.

00:21:57
Speaker 3: We're barely treading water here, buddy, you know, I mean like in life general, not just a podcast. It's doing we have this zero time. I was like, wait, it is to check up on the follows.

00:22:07
Speaker 2: But yeah, we did research it just so we would kind of go what you're talking about?

00:22:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lost between ten and fifteen thousand.

00:22:12
Speaker 2: But do you do?

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Speaker 3: Right?

00:22:14
Speaker 2: City here? Is that gonna affect you? Now? Do you care?

00:22:18
Speaker 1: Do I care?

00:22:18
Speaker 2: Do you care?

00:22:19
Speaker 1: I expect those bought. I expect that to happen. Those flushes, cause about every.

00:22:23
Speaker 2: Year, oh a year, they have them once a year, yeah.

00:22:26
Speaker 1: About every year. They're one of those that happens. This one wasn't that bad for me. So and I have like on my personal account, I was getting real close to one point three million. I was at one point two and I was like, oh, I'm about to at one point three. They flushed me right before one point three, So that was a little frustrating, but I don't social media is not social as much anymore, meaning it's not who you follow as much as it's more of what you're interested in. So algorithms feed us the stuff all the time, more so what we're interested in, what we're looking at, more than who we follow. It used to be back in the day, you follow bunch people. You're just gonna see what all your friends are doing. Now you can, you can follow everybody, and that's fine, but if your friends aren't posting things that you would generally be interested in, you're going to see it very little, and your algorithm is going to feed you things that you like that you don't even follow.

00:23:09
Speaker 2: Very true.

00:23:10
Speaker 1: So it's more like a follower media than a social media Yeah, yeah, that was I hurt. No, was that a little frustrated? Yeah, yeah, yeah, something about buying them back. That's how I buy them, I buy them back to get even I got I.

00:23:22
Speaker 2: Got you bots? Yeah, is it the box you're getting? There's it's I don't know who it is.

00:23:27
Speaker 1: There are these services, and I don't know if they're true that they say they can get you organic followers. That just feels like bots though.

00:23:36
Speaker 2: I mean you can buy streams. I mean people know that. Like, there's this guy.

00:23:39
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that. I could show you how to buy bots.

00:23:42
Speaker 3: Well, let's just say I know a guy that knows a guy and and it is literally I can't tell you the exact number, but from the judging by the video, I was shown thousands of phones plugged into and they and he goes to a computer doo dooo, doo boop, and all of those things just playing the same playing the same song, and they run that joker for so you can pay.

00:24:07
Speaker 2: You can pay this guy X amount of money to run.

00:24:09
Speaker 3: Two thousand dollars, I can guarantee you one hundred thousand streams or whatever, a million, whatever the exponential you know factor is. But yeah, ultimately you just send a check and they whatever you pay.

00:24:23
Speaker 2: Is what is that going on with pds anymore? Still?

00:24:26
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't do music. I have nothing to do with music, and I would say no like a payo.

00:24:31
Speaker 2: The thing is that still radio they.

00:24:33
Speaker 1: Want now they watch that stuff and I'm not involved to do nothing with music and radio except if I want to have somebody up and play or if I want to like. But my career is not based off of music anymore. It's just the content that I'm creating for the most part.

00:24:46
Speaker 2: So you're not doing the radios in the morning show.

00:24:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just talked about me like I was talking about earlier. I just talked about me the whole time, or bringing artists to guests, and sure, let them talk about it. I don't play music. Music's played. I don't pick it. If I want to, like play a song, I can.

00:25:00
Speaker 2: But if I was the KICKI like tan K, would you play?

00:25:02
Speaker 1: Oh god no, it would be worth it a hundred No, literally, I can play this game.

00:25:07
Speaker 2: How much can I make on a catalog souse? I love? How much? How much game? Like? What would it take you to do?

00:25:12
Speaker 1: They are they cracked down on that stuff so hard. But I saw the SEC was investigating the streaming services because of all of the manipulation of streams. The difference is though the streaming services aren't public, broadcast is public. They got to crack down on that because they own that. That's the government. But you're right, you can buy so many streams YouTube's, you can buy looks. But what they do is they feed it in there for you. So it's not really they're not forcing anybody to watch it streams. They can fake streams, but it works because if there's an artist and somebody's pitching them for, you know, to open or they're like, yeah, they've got they had four million streams last month, You're like what the crew really.

00:25:55
Speaker 2: Does not matter if they were real or not. Absolutely, So it's an game.

00:26:01
Speaker 1: It's an investment to buy streams. And I'm not saying you should do this. It's an investment to buy streams. Then you get streams, then you get work, and hopefully that work that you're getting pays off the investment that you just did to get.

00:26:12
Speaker 2: The streams and and and picks up the streams.

00:26:15
Speaker 1: Which then picks up the streams.

00:26:16
Speaker 2: You don't have to have fake streams anymore.

00:26:18
Speaker 1: And in the end, if you believe the artist is good enough to actually get streams, if you run the process you invest in that if you don't have integrity, I'd like to say that at the end. Yeah, yeah, because like I get the game for sure. I get the game.

00:26:35
Speaker 2: Is the game right that's that is, that's the bottom of the seventh, your down one the game right there.

00:26:40
Speaker 3: The inside ball of all these things is what kind of blows my mind. Like we had a best We have a best buddy that pitched in the majors for a long time, and for a long time I thought, based just say pitch you want to young, Okay, great guy, he plays music too.

00:26:58
Speaker 2: Yeah. But he when when we really.

00:27:00
Speaker 3: Became buddies with him and he explained us what's really going on in baseball. It isn't even what you think baseball.

00:27:07
Speaker 5: It's not what you're watching like I assumed, and I was a player. I played my entire like you know, high school, middle school, whatever. Literallygue the game to me was seeing the ball come out of the hand, deciding on what that pitch was, and doing my best to hit the ball. That is not the game in the major leagues. The ball's moving.

00:27:27
Speaker 3: So fast that these cats are choosing how they're going to swing before he ever even winds.

00:27:34
Speaker 2: Up it's tons of information sitting on pitches based on I have to count inning habits down up absolutely last pitch, ye base runners, how many outs are in It's it's yeah, absolutely man.

00:27:51
Speaker 3: There's always I feel like the older I get, the more I realized there's like inside ball on everything.

00:27:57
Speaker 1: And the more knowledge there is about everything, the more inside ball is created. It's happening with music now, but it has been happening at every level and every generation. There's a group of guys like us or women sitting around going can you believe how crazy it is now? Like that dude that has that that has never stopped. Absolutely man, And there's no to be people in twenty years doing the same thing with little holograms, a little hologram podcast.

00:28:22
Speaker 2: People.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: It was so good back in twenty twenty six. It was so easy. All you have to do is by streams, and now it's like, well you got to call your psychic and so it's an odd It's odd because you would just think artists is good. Yes, artist plays and gets discovered because they are good people. Then follow come there are great artists now that were discovered because of people running the schemes.

00:28:48
Speaker 2: There were great artists.

00:28:49
Speaker 1: Now, there are great there are There are great artists that only have been broken because of people doing what we're talking about.

00:28:54
Speaker 2: You know, no doubt.

00:28:56
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean they're any less. That was just a financial stress.

00:29:00
Speaker 2: That was their road. Yep.

00:29:02
Speaker 1: Yeah and so And if it were me, I'll do it for me. Like if I were an artist and I had the money, I'd buy streams.

00:29:07
Speaker 2: Oh.

00:29:07
Speaker 3: If you were an artist and you could pump your stuff up to get to another level, you.

00:29:11
Speaker 1: Would, yeah, because it was really that good, I would oh.

00:29:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's your lifelong dream. Now, if it's really your passion and really you believe you can really do it, absolutely you're going to go to all costs to make it work. And if that's a viable option, then that's a vible option.

00:29:24
Speaker 3: Most of the time, it's not an option though, right, Like most of the guys come in here are not Like I can go drop two hundred and fifty grand to get my song in the Is it that much?

00:29:31
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. You're the one that has wait the data factory, running the phone.

00:29:37
Speaker 2: You're the one running the scheme.

00:29:44
Speaker 1: It is very much a game inside of game, though, and A and R is a whole different world. And you know they're like, put out a song seventy two times, only play a clip of it and if one of them catches, that's good. But now you can hire these companies. I think Goose the band was that they were just in a story. And I can look this up where people are like, oh, their industry plants because they had paid all this money to this company to clip feed them. And that's not industry plant. That's them just choosing a strategy.

00:30:09
Speaker 3: That's that's paid somebody to clip clip our stuff.

00:30:13
Speaker 1: Different. There's there's there's something that would be you're paying one person to do the editing and the clipping. I'm going to give you an example of something Tuesday. There is a service, there's money account there following different companies that you can hire. And let's say, if I wanted.

00:30:33
Speaker 2: To do it, are we doing something for sure?

00:30:39
Speaker 1: That's why I don't feel like the Goose Industry Plant story is fair to them. They just chose a strategy.

00:30:45
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

00:30:45
Speaker 3: I heard that as the Goose industry Comma plant and I was like you too much?

00:30:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, remove sorry, get out of the woods.

00:30:52
Speaker 1: Come back to music.

00:30:53
Speaker 2: Industry Plant Goose is a rock band, got it? Uh, great name.

00:30:57
Speaker 1: There are companies brother, you can pay ten grand a month to They will take your stuff and in that ten grand a month, not only will they send it to be uh to these influencer accounts to put on and organically talk about it. They they create all of these basically body accounts and they start loading up all your clips all over the place. Now, because it's not social media, it's interest media, you start to catch all these body accounts that are playing. You're seeing it because if you ever see like something to co on, you're like, the account's for twenty two sixty eight three Red Red Room. You're like, oh, that's not a real account, but it does have nineties wrestling. I love nineties wrestling.

00:31:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen that. So that mine's always cockcams following a cop cam cockcam cop pa pa.

00:31:43
Speaker 2: You know where a cop goes into a yeah, pup chicken husband. What's funny about cop cops cop PU with a p copcam pa pa?

00:31:54
Speaker 3: How other cops just keep talking away? So when Tennessee VIDs three four three four four three says send me this in the DM, it's not.

00:32:02
Speaker 1: A real person, not a real person. Isn't that weird when they're like, can I share this? Because that's just a bot just doing that at the very bottom. The other interesting thing.

00:32:11
Speaker 2: Is I don't even mess with any of that.

00:32:12
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is me and Jumps carry the weight of what you don't do.

00:32:17
Speaker 2: Thank you, because this sounds terrible. It is.

00:32:21
Speaker 1: You don't do it.

00:32:22
Speaker 2: He'll no, he don't do nothing. Yeah right, I don't do social media like I hate I hate it and it stresses me out. And she'll fill me in if I need to be filled in. But I don't do it. You don't do it. You do it because you're addicted to it.

00:32:38
Speaker 3: I do it because if I don't do it, then Jumps has to post all our stuff by ourself.

00:32:42
Speaker 2: How much you post the bro I mean once a year?

00:32:46
Speaker 1: Slow?

00:32:47
Speaker 2: But the captions I.

00:32:48
Speaker 1: Have, those are so there are people that you can hire because the captions are so important, the captions and the hooks of the video that are so important that that is their specific job. And I will say there is absolute value to it. Sure, just captioning videos and making sure the first three seconds has a hook to it and if it can be the greatest video ever and if there's not something that creates engagement that makes people want to comment on it. It won't be seen because the Instagram's tiktoks of the world. They are basing what they're sharing on the engagement, the comments, the shares to share to other people. So that's an art. It's an absolute art for people to do captions and.

00:33:28
Speaker 3: Yes, clips, I also think it's an art to maintain the integrity and sound like the voice of whoever is featured in the clips. Like that's the thing that men jumps from between each other so much, because yes, she's doing all that right, But like, if it doesn't sound like a post from us our voice, sure it doesn't do as well.

00:33:51
Speaker 1: What about a post that doesn't sound like your voice that does great or a post that sounds like your voice that does terrible, which would rather have the great one? Yeah, but it's a it's a tough thing to yeah, for sure, for sure is tough. But yeah, I realize that sometimes it doesn't need to sound like it's from my voice depending on who I'm talking to, Like the like I had a labor and delivery nurse on my wife's had a baby and I'm so like, I'm so interested in that world now.

00:34:18
Speaker 2: And congrats, by the ways, it was a big guest.

00:34:21
Speaker 1: Why thank you?

00:34:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, the baby, I got it? Yeah, wait what just happened? Anyway?

00:34:29
Speaker 1: But I have to trust my people.

00:34:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to. You have to. We there was a rocky.

00:34:34
Speaker 3: Road there for a little bit of the man and then you hone it in, you know, and now it's we completely trust our people.

00:34:42
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

00:34:49
Speaker 1: What about the it's called blue dot fever. Have you guys been seeing this? Where so? Blue dot fever is if you go to the map, let's say, if it's Ticketmaster or wherever it is, all the blue dots are seats that haven't been sold. Do you ever go to that? You ever see? I'm familiar familiar because like when I would when I was doing a lot of stand up, I would look at the freaking.

00:35:11
Speaker 2: Dots on your show.

00:35:13
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

00:35:15
Speaker 2: Interesting.

00:35:15
Speaker 1: As soon as tickets went on sale and I'm online watching going, I wonder if today's day that nobody likes me anymore? Like I was putting so much of my worth.

00:35:25
Speaker 2: Into that kind of reading the comments A little bit.

00:35:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit, except these people are choosing not to spend money. A lot of these shows are getting canceled. Pusscat Dolls get canceled, their toy get canceled, Megan Trainer's tour canceled. We saw some early postmone Jelly Roll stadium shows get canceled. And they're calling a blue Dot fever because you go and look at the map and there's so many blue dots that you're like, oh, this is not going to sell enough for them to make their money back.

00:35:53
Speaker 2: They can't bro not not in today's day.

00:35:55
Speaker 1: Why do you think it's weird? Because the Wall and the combs is are still doing freaking stadiums.

00:36:04
Speaker 2: And I And that's where that's where I think I'm at with it, is like I think stadiums could still, Like I think stadiums are still if you're an act that can fill up a stadium.

00:36:12
Speaker 1: But there's not there's not many. I think people don't think they are that act exactly.

00:36:15
Speaker 3: Well, look, man, we've got to be honest about the factors that determine that, right, like availability of I mean, look, man, my best, our best buddy is Luke Combs. Everybody in the world knows that by now he played in Knoxville last weekend.

00:36:28
Speaker 2: My wife was like, we should go. I'm like, yeah, let's check out the prices, and everybody gets cool. It wasn't the ticket, it's the Airbnbs and the hotels and rut of my.

00:36:37
Speaker 1: Jet my story here so again.

00:36:44
Speaker 3: So I was talking to uh, she goes, oh, yes, this hotel room is eleven hundred dollars.

00:36:50
Speaker 2: I was like, forget that.

00:36:51
Speaker 3: We'll see Combs at is Barn making play a few songs for our kids and go to the house like it's it's cheaper to do that than to pay three nights for that, so we can completely wrote it off, which in turn had me had a conversation. My best friend in life is Luke Comb's guitar player, and he said that even some of the so they get the dates right, they get the dates like a year in advance. Some of the band's family was booking Airbnbs in Knoxville because they knew that was that the show was coming, and then Airbnb or whatever the thing was was canceling their stuff and rebooking, putting it available for four times as much. And his argument was everybody's whining about Ticketmaster and how they gaped price gouges. He said, they ought to check some of these hotels and Airbnb's doing that same thing, because everybody in those towns are doing that, and I think that contributes to lack of it's so fortunate to go to these.

00:37:46
Speaker 2: Shows and to plane ticket gas. If you're driving the ticket to the concerts going up, I mean, and the problem is, yeah, lodging. Some of these acts can't it's not just five to do some of the venues that they're doing, and I don't know that. I don't know that most of them will go down and venue size to make it work.

00:38:08
Speaker 1: I think too, it's a bit of you. My grandma would always say your eyes are bigger than your belly is. And I think that's with management and agents more than it is the artist, where you have managers and agents going we're going to try to do a stadium, We're gonna try to do arena.

00:38:23
Speaker 2: It's a million percent, we're going to risk it.

00:38:26
Speaker 1: We think it's closed, but we think you can do it. And then when it doesn't, it doesn't look bad on the manager or the agent. No, it's kind of embarrassing for the artist, and the artist just.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: Wants to do shows. I think what it does get I think it gives an opportunity to be creative and figure out a way to do it a new way and more intimate and like really connect with fans instead of just going up there and staying on the stage and playing in front of forty thousand people and never engaging with them. I think it's got to I think there's a real, real opportunity for somebody to engage in a way that they can do to make money as well as in a different community.

00:38:56
Speaker 3: There's what you're saying, right, tickets are so expensive due yeah, they eat the ticket, dude, it's it's it's but I'm telling the trick.

00:39:03
Speaker 2: It's the weekend.

00:39:04
Speaker 1: It's also the ticket. I agree with you fully, and but like dynamic ticket pricing, I get. I get a grocery stores are doing that now too, a little bit where it's like, well yeah, some of them are starting to do that, where it's like the less that there are because it's higher in demand, we're gonna make it more expensive.

00:39:21
Speaker 3: Right, Perfect bars leave them so much to Adiom piece.

00:39:24
Speaker 1: I just looked their eleven dollars now piece because they're out dynamic ticket pricing on Perfect bars.

00:39:30
Speaker 3: When I see my kids eating half of them things and throwing them down the mud, I just want to.

00:39:33
Speaker 2: I just pick it up and eat it. Hug my kid. I'm a I'm a trash can dude at my house. Nothing go if I pay for it is getting eaten.

00:39:40
Speaker 3: By Let's just say this the world, dude, in the world. If you're not balling out, now, how do.

00:39:46
Speaker 1: You afford anything?

00:39:47
Speaker 2: Dude?

00:39:48
Speaker 3: I mean, it is the craziest thing to me that that that people are paying what they're paying to I mean even to the comb shows. I love him to death, and I'm like, man, these guys are spending five to eight g's to be here, and they're going to four shows.

00:40:05
Speaker 1: A year, like just to get really high tickets. You're going to spend you and if you and your wife or you, you're gonna spend five six hundred bucks to get the worst to get the worst height.

00:40:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is if you take a family of four to a show, you're out two g's just.

00:40:19
Speaker 2: On tickets and bro a T shirt's eighty nine dollars, the hats sixty bucks.

00:40:23
Speaker 1: Everything's getting more expensive and people aren't making the money right, No, Yeah.

00:40:28
Speaker 2: They are not making the money, But it's also becoming easier, and it's also becoming easier to view it in different mediums as well. And I think that's what people are doing it too. I think people are, oh, bro, you don't have to pay for a ticket to go see them anymore.

00:40:39
Speaker 3: To sit on my couch and watch the Titans lose them.

00:40:42
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying in used to you could used to is the only way to do it is to pay a ticket that you go see who you love? Now you can see them on YouTube, you see them on Instagram and seem on. It's not the same. I get it, I know, I get it. But it's easier. It's a it's a something to think of. Go oh man, well I can just sit back on this one. What do you think you headed in on your first concert? You ever went to?

00:41:02
Speaker 1: Church? Paid for it? I went to Diamond Rio. Church paid for that. One church paid for domand Magic Springs theme park. It was also the Cold Church. Yeah, the first concert bought tickets too. Oh you can't sing on the show. Sorry, Yeah, there you go.

00:41:18
Speaker 2: You got a guitar sitting there. You can't even sing on the show.

00:41:21
Speaker 1: But people will play it and go like, let me show how I did, uh wrote this part of this song? They can do that. Like the lead singer of switch Foot was in and I was like, hey, stars kind of sounding. He's like, yeah, this is how it went from the bridge here. That's all fine, you're gonna pay for that. First ticket ever bought at a concert was probably John Fogerty and that was like, but but also you're talking like twenty five years ago. I was like eighteen bucks.

00:41:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah.

00:41:45
Speaker 1: It used to be just a concert fee would be like three bucks, but now the fees are almost double the ticket price.

00:41:51
Speaker 3: I just think in life people are getting coming to the edge, dude, people are coming.

00:41:56
Speaker 1: I think the bubbles about. I think the bubbles about to pop.

00:41:59
Speaker 3: There's a tension we're not doing it anymore, like we're just not going to pay for it anymore.

00:42:03
Speaker 1: But there are a few artists that can do stadiums, and those artists that are right below them are being encouraged to do and then it's not working out, and it's kind of embarrassing for them because then the news runs with it.

00:42:14
Speaker 2: Love it absolutely.

00:42:16
Speaker 1: The stadium acts now Wallin Comb's, Zach Bryan, those three because they do them currently Kenny and country music Garth for sure.

00:42:28
Speaker 2: I think Eric could do it.

00:42:30
Speaker 1: I think he could strategically do it.

00:42:33
Speaker 2: I don't know that he wants to do it.

00:42:34
Speaker 1: I don't either, And I don't think he invests enough in keeping him like he does his own thing. He's not trying to stay extremely relevant to a massive press tour and getting new people to fall in love with him. I think those five I think if you were to team some people up, you could do it. But even that's hard. Like George Straight with Stapleton does it. George Straight doing three shows a year can do it. But to do like Wallin and Comb and every weekend just go pop around, do freaking stadium.

00:43:02
Speaker 2: Bro.

00:43:03
Speaker 3: He's doing two shows a lambo yeah, man, he's doing Wimbley Yeah, three nights.

00:43:07
Speaker 1: But to see that encourage you to go, man, maybe I can do that. If he can do that. And that is a hard jump from an arena.

00:43:13
Speaker 2: To a stack. Oh it's huge, man, big jump.

00:43:15
Speaker 1: That is a hard That's a jump from a big stadium twenty two thousand to eighty or ninety thousand. You're like four xing it.

00:43:22
Speaker 2: And I let me just let me just say this for my boy too.

00:43:25
Speaker 3: Man, what does he got forty it's a forty seven. It's like forty seven.

00:43:28
Speaker 1: But here's the here's the other sneaky, he's got forty seven trucks.

00:43:32
Speaker 2: It's dude, it might be one hundred and forty seven. I mean there are Let's just say.

00:43:36
Speaker 3: The stadium shows are different when you're blocking off an end zone and doing a stadium show.

00:43:42
Speaker 2: Yeah sixty, there is nothing.

00:43:44
Speaker 3: Blocked off, dude, that is a complete three sixty. Every seat you can sit in is open.

00:43:49
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, what do you do at Knoxville ninety two? He did ninety seven in Ohio, Bro, and I'm talking about it looks like it feels like we wait. It feels like Elon Musk is about to send a space action ship off the It's intense, man, It's intense. It's the wildest wild.

00:44:06
Speaker 1: This is my coolest stadium story. It's a minor flex that I've told it before. It was April fools Day a few years ago and I got a call from a finger quote Garth Brooks on April Fol's Day and Garth Brooks was like, hey, it's Garth. I didn't recognize the number, and I know Garth a little bit. I have Garth's number on my phone. It was from a number that wasn't sound like yeah a little bit. I had my wife come over and I was like, I put it on mute. I was like, this guy says he's Garth. Listen, and so she comes over and I put it back on speaker and he's like, hey, man, it's Garth. I'm gonna play Raised back Stadium about to announce it, and Arkansas would love for you to be the main support for me and Tricia. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm in. Hey, I mean I'll come play the stadium Garth.

00:44:45
Speaker 2: Yeah April Fools.

00:44:47
Speaker 1: Aprilful's Day, right, And I was like, yeah, count me in, and so he's like cool, uh man hangs up and he hung up so quickly. I was like, was that actually Garth? And my wife goes, I don't It's April Foll's Day, Like why would you believe anything on April Fol's Day? And I'm like okay. Next day, Guard's manager call and said, hey, you're going to open You're going to be main support for Garth and raizorback Stadium. I was like, was that real?

00:45:12
Speaker 2: And he was like he was like, yes, So it was Garth.

00:45:15
Speaker 1: I played for one hundred and two thousand people, biggest.

00:45:19
Speaker 2: That's amazing, biggest show.

00:45:20
Speaker 1: Ever in Arkansas history. It was a Garth headline show in the round, full stadium around and before the show because he had an opener and Mitch yeah, yeah, yeah and so and he was great and Garth was like, hey, I don't want you to go on till it's dark. He came before I went on, and I was like, that's so cool, Like who would even think of that? He said, because I want you to like experience this with the lights.

00:45:45
Speaker 2: Pretty sick, dude, it's pretty sick.

00:45:46
Speaker 1: And then he said then Guard said, I also, if you want to go over your time, because he gave us forty minutes, he said, if you want to go over your time, don't go over the Tricia was right next to him, and she goes, don't go over and I was like, don't worry.

00:45:57
Speaker 2: I ain't going.

00:46:00
Speaker 1: Part of me was even thinking I'm thirty ninety yes please. And then what was cool though, He's like, hey, this is around like you're talking about. It's exhausting to play that because you have to pay attention to everybody. He said, I want you to use the whole stage because people will feel like that you're not giving it to them because they're all around.

00:46:17
Speaker 2: You got to keep it moving.

00:46:18
Speaker 1: And nobody was No one was there to see me. They were there to see Garth. But to see that, like how much energy has to be done all the way around there are people. It's sea, like shining sea in the stadium. Yeah, and for comes to do that constantly and to not be forty years old, that's crazy.

00:46:36
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy, man, it's crazy. It's crazy experience.

00:46:39
Speaker 3: I mean as far as like what all goes into it, it's just the logistics are insane.

00:46:45
Speaker 2: They don't make sense. The night we're there, we're on the bus.

00:46:49
Speaker 3: I mean I kind of bust and combs out on this.

00:46:52
Speaker 2: But he's like, y'allall we're standing. They all stand with bus, meaning we're like all right. So we we hang out.

00:46:57
Speaker 3: We eat, we warm up some pizza in the micro world. We eat that, go to bed, and all of a sudden we hear like thirteen alarms go off.

00:47:06
Speaker 2: This is in South mand From his room, it's like, please take shelter, Please take shelter. He come, you were in the direct line of the tornado. There's a tornado coming right for us. Everybody get gets out stadium right now. We're like, hey, man, maybe we could just chill and see if it like comes.

00:47:22
Speaker 1: He's like, no, off the bus.

00:47:23
Speaker 2: And harp his best his best lifetime buddy. It's like, I don't want to do this arms, this false alarm. He's like, he's like going, So it's we're running. We run through a torrential downpoint. We had my contacts then into the stadium. I don't even know. I had a shirt on into the stadium in the locker room when we were.

00:47:42
Speaker 3: Trying to get in and we were like two o'clock in the morning.

00:47:45
Speaker 2: There's nobody in the stadium.

00:47:47
Speaker 1: Did the tornado hit anywhere close?

00:47:48
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Oh he did. Yeah. He came right through there. It came right up just like south I think, just south of South maund.

00:47:54
Speaker 1: So he was kind of right then.

00:47:56
Speaker 3: I mean the bus didn't get picked up and thrown them, dude, I mean he was.

00:47:59
Speaker 2: There's a guy on YouTube that we all watch now that I kind of put everybody on and the weather guy and he's like Ryan Hall is saying to get into cover. So right put a helmet on.

00:48:14
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, did you guys have tornadoes growing up?

00:48:17
Speaker 2: Oh?

00:48:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's more now though, Yeah, I feel like it is too more.

00:48:21
Speaker 2: I do feel like though, And I tell people this, and I hope my I hope. I've got a little I got a little boy. I got a little girl too. But like when I was little and there's a tornado coming through, This is how much I trusted my dad. Dude, I would I would go to him and I go, hey, Dad. I was like, are we gonna be all right? And he'd be like, yeah, man, we're gonna be fine, And dude, I would have gone out there and played basketball in it, just because the way I try. Like I didn't know, but like I remember being going to uh our neighbors over there that we used to go to the morrises and going downstairs and base yeah, and just playing video games but not being scared because Dad said to not be scared when it could have been. We could have been absolutely direct hitting.

00:48:57
Speaker 1: When Luke Combs says, be scared, do you be are scared?

00:49:01
Speaker 2: I was not scared.

00:49:01
Speaker 3: You're not scared. I was completely fine. I was with I was team Hart. We were going to stay on the bus, but like he was going to.

00:49:08
Speaker 2: Drag nobody staying on that bus. He was just going to drag.

00:49:10
Speaker 3: Us out by all right, to get in that if we had to.

00:49:14
Speaker 1: We don't have basements here, which is odd because we have, like you said, a lot of tornadoes living in Nashville, and half I was reading our nocturnal tornadoes, which means we got a freaking be butt puckered all night long. One of us has to stay awake and watch because they hit at night here in national life.

00:49:29
Speaker 2: Why is that? It's very true. It does feel like you called him nocturnal.

00:49:33
Speaker 1: I didn't. I read about it.

00:49:34
Speaker 2: It's kind of cool name.

00:49:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, half of the tornadoes to hit where we live are nocturnal tornado like Natos.

00:49:41
Speaker 2: Tornados.

00:49:43
Speaker 1: We had a bunch growing up. We had a bunch of Arkansas. Yeah, because Arkansas is not quite Oklahoma and Kansas, but it's close, so we would not have the worst version of it. But we had a bunch And for like significant parts of my life at different times, I lived in different trailer parks, and well, what I remember most is when tornadoes would come. Everybody this is it sounds you know, counterintuitive, to what you do. Everybody gets out and they go to a ditch. You're outside and you go to a ditch and you cover yourself because if you're in the tornado and not even if the tornado hits, if the heavy winds hit. Yeah, the trailer Like one of the memories that's like embedded into my mind is when tornadoes were coming, everybody would be coming out of the trailers, walking down to the ditch, yep, and just getting down crazy.

00:50:28
Speaker 3: That's pretty nute, you hear, you do hear those stories of like like that's like it hit the trailer park and then there was one guy holding on to the toilet, you know.

00:50:34
Speaker 2: Cause it was like like the house was gone, but he was sitting there, you know, strapped in.

00:50:39
Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. This is the Bobby cast.

00:50:47
Speaker 1: Who have you had on your show recently that you did not expect to really like? Not that you didn't think you disliked them, but maybe you didn't know. But they came in and they left, and you're like, legit.

00:51:00
Speaker 2: Zach top for me, I didn't know and we didn't know it. From Adam. I loved his stuff. I loved the two records he did, and obviously he's a monster, you know, playing the guitar musician and he could sing you know, phone Book, but like really, you know, not knowing anything about him, what he's like, what he likes, his interest that that aversation or that conversation and interview was I left going. Man, I'm a I'm an even bigger fan of that top than I was. Originally I thought he was Morgan's great I've known Morgan for a while.

00:51:31
Speaker 1: Same, he's the greatest.

00:51:32
Speaker 2: He's just a great dude. He's a great dude, like man's man.

00:51:38
Speaker 1: Like just like I would. I feel like I could call him if somebody's gonna beat me up, I could call him. If I needed some money, I could call He would just be there and like we have that relationship. Though I know you guys had some viral stuff with I mean I had some like crazy stuff.

00:51:52
Speaker 2: Well because we piggybacked off that a little bit.

00:51:55
Speaker 1: Oh great, I just the Garth Morgan Evan stuff for you guys. Yeah, that's right that we talking about.

00:52:00
Speaker 3: But we talked about, Yeah, we're talking the guy that we really went nuts on. The guy, Yeah, the girl guy that called him a girl oh yeah, Yeah, you know the guy that wears v Nex with those shirts under them.

00:52:10
Speaker 2: That's got blonde strips in his hair.

00:52:12
Speaker 1: I tell you what, if I could pull it off, I would, though, that's the thing, you would, I think, so I can't for that though, I'm not I'm too old. Yes, cool, I'm not.

00:52:22
Speaker 2: I'm not. Well, you're cool, guy, I can see you going streaks.

00:52:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wear cardigans every day in my life. I think I'm cool because I don't chase it anymore. I chased it for a while.

00:52:35
Speaker 2: You did that cars kind of screaming chasy my car? Yeah it's his car.

00:52:40
Speaker 3: I'm guessing it's the probably the blue porch that's sitting right here.

00:52:43
Speaker 1: No, it's a Lamborghini. Chasy.

00:52:49
Speaker 2: Nothing says I want to blend like al get to get it right. I'm not a car guys, I don't know.

00:52:54
Speaker 1: I'm not a car guy either. I know nothing, no know nothing about cars. My dream my whole life was to have a Bentley. And when I your whole life, well, as soon as I saw like rich people on TV, I want to Yeah, I was like, I want.

00:53:09
Speaker 2: To be the be Is that that's the bee with the wings?

00:53:11
Speaker 1: You know what it also was a bee. That makes sense because also my name is by twice. I just connected well and I'm a real name.

00:53:18
Speaker 2: How sick would be to have a Bentley that had the B B on it?

00:53:21
Speaker 1: Dude, that's I told traded in for that. Yeah, but I didn't. I got it and it was cool, and I was like, man, this, but I was so low to the ground and it was like I should have been drive, I should have been chiffe in somebody.

00:53:34
Speaker 2: It felt like, so, if you really got a Bentley, you're riding in the back of it.

00:53:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point too. I didn't have a driver, and it was a cool car, but I don't see very well, and I kept hitting potholes because this town sucks for potholes. And my watch is like, you have to have an SUV. This is God's honest story truth, And I said, okay, So I finally had my dream car, to which my When I first moved to town, I got a business manager, which was weird to me to pay somebody money to watch money. But then I was having like pay percentages and I felt like I was going to go to jail for paying for doing wrong. So I was like, I got to have a business manager. And I said that broke board mindset though very much. I had sure, absolutely very much, and I said I want to I really wanted to get to the point where I may make enough money to get a Bentley. And so for Christmas that next year, she gave me a remote control Bentley. She was like, this will do for now. I still have that remote control Bee from when I first moved to town, but I bought that card. It was a big deal for me. And I kept having flat tires and those rims are not cheap. So my wife said, you got to get a suv. So I was like, let's go practical and about the Lamborghinia shub.

00:54:35
Speaker 3: Well, if it makes you feel any better, there's a screw in my tire right now, letting the air out in your parking lot.

00:54:40
Speaker 2: And I have a big.

00:54:41
Speaker 3: Truck, so regardless of what you have, there's screws all over this town.

00:54:46
Speaker 2: Not a screwish.

00:54:48
Speaker 1: Why when did that happen?

00:54:49
Speaker 2: Well, we hopped in the truck today to pick Red up and he goes, hey, man, I was like, you're lift your back lift tires flat. Just sensed it.

00:54:56
Speaker 1: You're like the Princess and the pee just getting a truck and knowing a tires left.

00:55:00
Speaker 2: It was pancake, didn't I drive?

00:55:01
Speaker 1: He sits in, It's like left, no, right rear tire flat.

00:55:06
Speaker 3: It's a I'm a dude, I know what a flat tire looks like. He goes, you're back tires flat. I was like, no, dude, everybody.

00:55:11
Speaker 2: He's like, get in, we're late. Come on.

00:55:13
Speaker 3: I was like, we gotta go now, all right, I whip it out. I'm like, let me just check. It's like thirty one, thirty one, thirty one thirteen.

00:55:20
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, what's happening right now? We're rolling. We're already rolling down the road and I'm like he's like, oh, you weren't lying my tires flat. He's like, I know what a flat tire looks? Like, what don't you tell me? He's like, I did we.

00:55:31
Speaker 3: Rip it around that story in my life. He's like, I can plug it real quick. I was like, no, dude, we're gonna be like, just guess that thing up. We'll fill it up at a BP.

00:55:38
Speaker 2: Be flat. It's flat flat. We're gonna have to stop at the BP and I'll do the whole tire. So well, how you are.

00:55:45
Speaker 1: That sucks.

00:55:46
Speaker 2: No, it's fine.

00:55:46
Speaker 1: Back in the day you fill out with fix a flat.

00:55:48
Speaker 3: Back in the day, I'd be really concerned about it.

00:55:51
Speaker 2: Today. I haven't thought about it until.

00:55:52
Speaker 1: Right now because you got songwriting rich. You can't call me out having a Lamborghini and not emit your sign.

00:56:01
Speaker 2: Me up.

00:56:02
Speaker 1: What song have you written that you made the most money from? Read kind of Love We May Luke Combs, kind of Love We Make. I'm not asking you how much. I would never do that to you call me out for a porch and not even a Porsche Dan, not a car guy, Guy, What song have you written that you made the most money from?

00:56:20
Speaker 3: Oh Man, he is kind of love to probably better together. But it was a five week number one. It was in the heat heat of the Combs.

00:56:30
Speaker 2: He got four. He's got a four week right now.

00:56:32
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:56:32
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not still all the rockets yet.

00:56:34
Speaker 3: I'm just saying this was the incline of the I think I had like one of the well I had the first big piano ballad, you know, and it just happened to to really do good.

00:56:46
Speaker 1: Do you guys get paper checks in the mail or do they just go to your bank.

00:56:50
Speaker 3: We did for a long time being mine would just send us you get a check by annually, I think.

00:56:55
Speaker 2: But now it's direct to pause, and there's still some like there's still some publishing checks you can get in the mill if you don't have it set up to go direct deposit.

00:57:02
Speaker 3: It just makes sense get direct DEPOSITI though, didn't get lost.

00:57:05
Speaker 1: And yeah, it convinced me. I'm familiar with how the direct deposit works. I just wondered if it actually just mailed it to you.

00:57:11
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this though, my wife knew what they was. She'd be waiting, but she'd be standing by that. Oh yeah, they know, they know when that thing was coming.

00:57:18
Speaker 2: Baby.

00:57:19
Speaker 1: I have nothing to say about that. I'm not I'm not jumping in that. They know in case everybody's bro, that's just them.

00:57:26
Speaker 2: He knows.

00:57:27
Speaker 3: They know I'm looking at your camera, so he knows, we know I'm looking at your camera for you and saying they know, Okay.

00:57:34
Speaker 1: Look, God's Country podcast. You guys do a great job. Is over already, We've done over an hour and your tires flat now guilty flat out there, because that's all I could think about if I were in here in your position and had a flat tire. All I will be thinking about is, oh my god, I'm gonna walk out and I'm gonna be just on a nub bro.

00:57:50
Speaker 3: We literally filled it up with air and we got like. I was like, all right, it's good, and it was.

00:57:54
Speaker 2: Like, I was like, let's get it. I was like, well, I couldn't be late because last I'm almost late. We started, we did the whole half of interview.

00:58:03
Speaker 1: We got there.

00:58:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it wasn't. It wasn't. I wasn't that late.

00:58:07
Speaker 3: You just can't ever tell national traffic man, I would be fixing potholes at two o'clock.

00:58:13
Speaker 1: On Nashville traffic. Are you talking about the last name? You're still apologizing for that one? Yeah, that was the latest anybody has ever been in the history though, honest to God, in the history of me doing that's the latest anybody's ever been.

00:58:26
Speaker 2: Ten minutes.

00:58:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, because because once they hit about seven, I cancel it.

00:58:31
Speaker 2: Mmm, you didn't cancel there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. I understand that.

00:58:37
Speaker 1: Actually, unless it.

00:58:38
Speaker 2: Was out of my control, but I get it. Yeah, it's all good.

00:58:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all rights to everybody. Check out the God's Country Podcast. I'm a fan of it.

00:58:48
Speaker 2: Come back on.

00:58:49
Speaker 1: We just did the thing. I'm happy to come back on.

00:58:51
Speaker 2: I'd love to do this thing.

00:58:53
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like, what am I going to talk about?

00:58:55
Speaker 2: Uh, unless we're talking talk about fish, go fishing. Unless let's scope, let's do it, let's go fishing podcasts.

00:59:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would do that with you guys. I would do that. That would be fun.

00:59:07
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:59:10
Speaker 1: Still over Well, I'm just going through my calendar. I'm a little busy that day, like every day for Yeah, yeah, I wanted you heard me, want to do it?

00:59:18
Speaker 3: Actually, just going fishing without the podcast would be way more fun.

00:59:21
Speaker 2: I think I just watched Anxiety win. I just that's exactly right. You kind of beat that devil down. I know you gotta go. Man, that sounds fun right now, and it'll be fun today I do it.

00:59:37
Speaker 1: How are you guys juggling your time though to make sure you do a quality show whenever? You guys writing songs all the time.

00:59:44
Speaker 2: Hm hmm. We just going before we just go like we like there's honestly like like Jordan gives us a little prep sheet before the show and the night before and we kind of research it. But like I know, without a shadow of a doubt that when we walk into a room, it doesn't matter who we're with, whatever show it is, it's gonna be a good show. Like I just I've got complete on hundred percent confidence in us. Throw on bomb at least. Yeah, nothing's gonna nothing's gonna fail.

01:00:15
Speaker 3: If we do bomb, it'll at least be funny.

01:00:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. I feel the opposite. It's gonna suck.

01:00:24
Speaker 2: We Oh. I feel that every time driving into town. But then I also know at the end of it, like get that anxiety double off.

01:00:30
Speaker 1: You gotta love it. But it's also my superpower, honest to God, like me being so it pushes you very much. So I have the super focused.

01:00:36
Speaker 2: Is that exhaustion thing we're talking about?

01:00:38
Speaker 1: Dial it in very much. So I wasn't worry about with you guys, like I like talking with you guys.

01:00:43
Speaker 2: Did you wonder if we're gonna be on time?

01:00:44
Speaker 1: No, No, not at all. I didn't remember that.

01:00:47
Speaker 2: We were real close to being late. Yeah, but it was legiti.

01:00:50
Speaker 3: This time, we're gonna be late to whatever we gotta go to next because we gotta fix that tire.

01:00:55
Speaker 1: What's next?

01:00:57
Speaker 2: I don't even know you're writing.

01:00:59
Speaker 3: No, Friday, Friday birthday, one of my kids birthday parties tomorrow and then the next day we're hosting like mother mother's days.

01:01:10
Speaker 2: Why what a lot coming down the shoot?

01:01:12
Speaker 1: Is it like a worked thing or just like eight mothers? Like family friends, there's plenty.

01:01:15
Speaker 3: Of work involved, but it's a marriage thing.

01:01:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, got it. They know we don't need to go there, dude, they don't.

01:01:21
Speaker 1: You guys speak so negatively, like the tone is just always so negative. They know we don't got to go there.

01:01:28
Speaker 3: I mean always twice, it's just so negative twice.

01:01:32
Speaker 2: It's a long way from always. All right, well this is a long way from it. Yeah, twice from always.

01:01:42
Speaker 1: Now, as that song that had been published, we just got published because we co wrote it. That's that's not how it works. It's not publishers because you sing it. That's like I declared bankruptcy and then going we.

01:01:53
Speaker 2: Got to turn it aroun Yeah.

01:01:53
Speaker 3: We just we just yeah, yeah, we just trademarked it by singing it recorded.

01:01:57
Speaker 1: So that's not how that works. I thought that's how that worked. Gotta be a brand, we don't. We should do some legal I'll get you a legal zoom. We're good, all right, all right, God's Country Podcast.

01:02:08
Speaker 2: I think I'd rather go to jail actually that week.

01:02:11
Speaker 1: Subscribe check them out. They know country music, they live country, they write country music. They bring on the greatest artist and country music to come on, and you guys do a great job. Seriously, I told you this for a long time. So yeah, you guys. Check out God's Country Podcast and we will see you guys later on this week. All right, bye everybody.

01:02:29
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