#137 - Top 10 Favorite Music Movies Of All-Time

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode one thirty seven of the Bobby Cast. What are we talking about our favorite movies with music? And there really weren't any of the rules except that the movie had to have music. It could be about music, could be a documentary, could be just anything. And I brought in my fellow music sort of expert, like we're the same now that one of us are really experts. But were about the music nerds eddies here, So before we get started, let's talking about my sleep number bed and oh my goodness, if you have a sleep number? Do you even have something number? Ready? Now? What am I gonna get one of those? I don't know. We'll talk about that. I don't know you should demand one. Maybe you've considered a sleep number but you thought you couldn't afford one. But I don't know. Right now, it's a good time. There's never been a better time to go into a sleep number store where all the beds are on sale during the biggest sale of the year. 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I even considered some that were just like not even really about music, but music goal would have been fine. So what I did was I ended up just finding movies that kind of I grew up with and shape my musical life. I'll tell you where this all started from. Is Eddie text me, I guess um, I don't know the first time you did, but you reminded me last week. You said, Hey, I saw this documentary called Anvil, Yeah, the Story of Anvil, The Story of Anvil. Yeah, And and I just I was sitting at home, I guess some Sunday night, and I had a little time. I got back into town and I was like, I want to watch that that musical documentary. And it's about a metal band from the eighties. And here's some of their music right here. This is called Metal on Metal from Anvil. Here's like, so it's not something that I would listen to, but I'm always curious about stories of bands. And I watched on Netflix. It's free if you have net made Netflix and a free. But it feels Netflix feels free, right, Like you pay for everything, but it still feels free. Someone's like, it's on I won't watch about the Netflix only watch things out to pay for. But yeah, we're paying for How stupid are we? I just thought this is the first time ever thought about that. I'm like, for good. Yeah, Like I'm like, I'm like, now, I'm not gonna pay two nine in that right a movie on iTunes? I watch it for free on Netflix nowe Yeah, I've got an idiot. Yeah, now we all are, we all fall, we fall for it, all of this. So it's the story of this band who had a ton of promise in the eighties and it shows them with bon Jovi and Twisted Sister and they're a Canadian metal band and it's them trying to make it back years later. They had one huge successful show and I think it was a festival, and I mean, I mean they rocked it. Everyone remembers that performance and people like I guess the guys from it and just like prominent eighties metal guys that we all know are talking about man Anvil rocked. They were amazing, so much talent, the energy they had, but then they disappeared and they never broke up. They just kept trying and they just kept sucking. So do they I forget because I saw it a while back. But do they ever go into why they didn't make it? Was it like failed like record deals or yeah, they had they made like twelve twelve records. They kept making records, but the only record they had that was good was what that one producer that you made? And Andy, we're not spoiling anything, and yes, but just watch it. It's it's fun if you like music, you don't have to like metal, because I all like metal. I don't really care what either. But how long are did you watch it? And why did you remind me of it? If it was that long ago? Because I was watching our free service Netflix and I was just going through the movies and I saw that it was on there. I'm like, dude, I remember that. It was such a good documentary that I saw I don't know, six seven years ago. We could break this in and we could do our top five list and we could actually break it into just off the top of our head, we're going to the documentary category. Yeah, but um, that's Anvil again. If you like metal. I don't know if there's any good or not, but watch Anvil the Story of Anvils on Netflix. Yeah, for public Channel Netflix. Here it is. Here's metal on metal again. Just theyka, Yeah, but that's what That's what stirred this idea for this actual podcast, just so I was like, hey, let me call Eddie and we'll talk about it. So I'll tell you what we'll do. We'll go each go five, then four and three and two than one perfect and who knows, we may have some of the same movies, but don't reveal that it's on your list. I won't like if I hit it. Okay, so why don't you start us off at your number five musical movie and my number five that shaped my career in music. My love for music is la bamba, like this is one that is just in the family. Like everyone knew Richie Valen's love Bamba. By the way, all right, can we pause up the podcast and you go watch? It? Will start over? How have you not seen them? Hold? Hold and listen. I know the song, but I think YouTube growing up in a Mexican household, I think it was different for you that you had to watch it. This was Arkansas. It mean not watching Johnny cash or or just a document about a big Arkansas person. I would watch it because I feel closer to him because of their culture I grew up in. Yeah, so don't judge me. I don't think. I think it's a big movie, but I don't think any of people get out. Everyone knows the scene. Oh, I know the scene was running through in the clothes lines. He's run Johnny. His name is Ritchie Chie and it's his brother Bob. I've never been more offended Johnny that part I'm kidding about because I have seen but I know I haven't. And the guys in it, the famous guy yea lud Diamond Phillips, Ludamon Phillips, he's the lead character or in it and um which he by the way, is not Mexican American. He is Filipino, that's correct, which is a mind blowing for like all us Latinos because we thought watching it's like, oh he's he's one of us. Yeah, he pulls it up right day. No, he plays a perfect Ritchie Vallens, you know, like it was what we assume was Richie Vollans. And and just so you know, I grew up. I'm a Texan Mexican, which is different from a California Mexican. Different cultures. The way we grew up is different than the California um Latino culture, which is just a little more I don't know, man, you watch LaBamba and that's that's them, that's California Latinos and so, and we didn't really know that, you know, watching it, But I learned a lot about a Mexican guy going into an American industry, which is you know, rock and roll, man, which is crazy and how accepted he was for me was huge because I grew up in a town where it was all Mexicans. We were all Mexican American is maybe have a few white people moved in the neighborhood. We we've noticed them. Everyone noticed, Oh yeah, those are the Fowlers, and you know, and that's how it was. And so Labama to me was eye opening that, oh you can make it in a white America. Rock and roll was pure, you know, this kind of America that we weren't used to being in. Did that inspire you as a musician, It did big time. I remember going to the store and I wanted for all I wanted for Christmas was an electric guitar like Richie Vallens, and I wanted the poster of Richie Vallens Labama movie. I really affected you, yeah, real big time. And I got the poster, not the guitar for Christmas. Number five on Eddie's list is LaBamba. Yeah, okay. Number five for me is a movie. It's definitely not a documentary, but it was so musical and it was a comedy at the same time, and it was a bit about before me Okay, trying to think of what you're going for And I watched it and the music was so and by the way, it may have been before I was born. I wa to look at the gear. One of the actors in this movie, it's had a number one record, a number one movie, and a number one TV show all the exact same time, the first person to ever do that. And he's one of the main people in this movie. And I mean, I'm thinking Elvis, but it's not. It's not. It's bordering on the year that I was born, is it? Is it? Frankie Valley? No, no, no, no, it's not real. But it did turn into something afterward, meaning it turned into a kind of an entity because of the movie when it came out. The Blues Brothers and the Blues Brothers, Yeah needs somebody, alright, confession, I've seen part of Blues Brothers. I've never seen the whole movie. Brothers such a white guy thing. Yeah, Cultures Colors, it's such a white guy movie too. It's yeah, it's uh yeah, I don't even want to tell you. I don't want to spoil. The part I remember watching is where they pull up to uh, there's a bar and they're about to play but the band that's supposed to be playing is late and they're in the bus. Do you remember that? Yeah, so listen, I'm gonna tell you about it. It's Dan Akroy and John Belushi, um, and John Belushi was the guy who had Saturday Night Live was the number one show. This record was number one, and the movie was I think the movie was Animal House or maybe even this movie. But he had all three numbre in the same same way. So was this their biggest hit? I don't remember. I mean soul Man because which wasn't their song, but they put it out and it was a big hit for them. Yeah. So here's a soul Man from the Blues Brothers. N Yeah, alright, well soul Man was there was the biggest nub there. Uh yeah, there you go. The Blues Brothers at number five for me? All right, number four Number four for me is Pure Country. George Straight became an actor. This was big, Like we were all fans of George Straight of course growing up. But the fact that he was acting and he was in a movie about being George Straight, but his name wasn't George Straight. Was Dusty in the movie he played Have you ever seen Pure Country? Yeah? A long time ago, didn't. He's such a bad actor, Like you know George Is. He's a great singer, but he can't act really, And and he plays this you know this guy Dusty who's just a worn out country singer man, he's tired of the smoke. The lats just ain't him. Yeah, I've seen it a long time ago. Amy loves it. And oh dude, my brother and I would just quote everything from that movie. And he's a bad actor. Oh, he's terrible. He's terrible. But his co star in it. I think in the movies his brother is John Doe. Do you know John Doe Is? He's a he's like a punk band. Mike de probably knows him. But he's a legendary punk guy. I think his band was called Generation X maybe or something. Yeah, And so John Doe he's an actor. So two musicians who just do nothing but music are acting to this movie pretty mediocrely, not good at all. But is the movie good? Yeah, the movie is great. How do you have two main actors? Again, I watched I was a kid. Had to be that old, right, had to be like nineties. Let's see, I have it right here, it's ninety two. That seems about right. I think I saw one it was new, but I haven't seen it since. But I canna tell you I was never much of a like a huge George Straight as a kid. You're from Texas, Texas, he was king. I mean I was Garth Brooks, and there was almost this rivalry between the two, not between the two, but between the two and people's minds, especially where I grew up, you were kind of you know, uh Arthur George Straight or you know Metallica or C d C or you had to kind of pick everything kind of had their rival and so, uh yeah, I guess I didn't watch I guess it was like ninety two that time. I guess when I did go through my country kick because I'm a really good friend that we grew up to who we grew up together. Um, we were you know, rockers, like we loved rock. We loved eighties rock. And then he moved away to another town and he came back to visit like three years later, and I was wearing wranglers, you know, and and justin ropers, and he was like, you know, hard horror in his like grunge flannel, and he's like, what is wrong with you like, what are you wearing, dude? It's my wranglers, man, my brush popper shirt. Garth wore this and roping the wind. You know, you were a hybrid of George and Garths big time and so yeah, that was I guess. I guess pure country is important to me because that was in my country phase. M okay, Buddy Jackson. Number four, I know that you've seen and it may be on your list. I don't know, but Tom Hanks wrote it and directed it. One of the best movies ever. That thing you do at number four not a true story, No, it feels like one. Yeah. The Wonders man, Yeah, because they wanted to spell it. You know how the Beatles spelled their name a bit different, like the Beatles, like a beat and they wanted to spell the Wonders with O and E the Nesters and we have to change. It's not gonna work. That's and I don't know that I've seen that movie more than maybe maybe twice at the most. But it's one of those that I enjoyed so much I didn't want to watch again because I felt like I watched it again. It may not enjoy it as much. It may not have held up and that's just a fun memory of it. I feel that way a bit about five Dreds of Summer, which is not on the list, even though it has such a strong sound, such a good sound, one of the best. And you know, whenever the hall and notes um, you know my dreams on Founding Summer, like I remember having sto good almost like euphoric feeling that little birds flying around be like, oh, this movie is unsuspect to time I feel about watching that thing, you do. There was no build up. I watched it and it's it feels like the story of the Beatles, but like an American version, a bunch of idiot kids hearing themselves in the radio. And that's sad that that that their story, their fictional story. It was pretty much the story of that generation for a lot of bands. Yeah, I mean, even the Monkeys tried to recreate because the Monkeys weren't real their TV show, right, they well, they were cast and then they became real, much like The Blues Brothers where it was a movie and then it became a thing. Well that's crazy because the Monkeys have just great music. The Monkeys were cast, you know, David Jones is British Mickey adults. Some other guys are't British America. I didn't know that. Yeah, they're not all Wow, I didn't know that. So you know, he speak of what accident and some of them aren't. But but yeah, I love I love the monkeys. There's from the sixties and maybe even the seventies. But here we go walking down the street, we get the funniest looks from the every won we meet. Hey, we're the monkey and I love that show. Number four on my list is that thing you do with the Wonders and and that song, I mean, how about that song that we still know all the words too? How many years later? Well what the movie wasn't I'm not just stuck monkeys? Yeah, from that thing you do the Wonders. But that song was a kind of a hit song that came from the movie. Really, I do remember that. I don't know what but so much so. But we know the words, yeah, like you even known the drum beat. Yeah, and think about other movies, you know, fictional what what music? What do you remember from from pure country music? Heartland? Okay? But you know, remember here twin fiddles in a steel guitar. But was that only from that movie, yes, because that the pure country soundtrack were just as George Straight tracks all for that movie only where the Sidewalk Because I know this song. Yeah, this was a pure country song, but I remember on the radio because it's George Straight, Okay, So he put it out as George Straight, not as No, the album's pure country. You can only find it on the pure country album, but as he listed as George Straight. Yeah okay. His character is not George Straight Dusty, so he's not listened as Dusty. So so I guess in the movie he sings these as Dusty Heartland. But if you buy it at the store or back then when you buy to the store, the CD was pure country by George Straight as Dusty. Yeah. We're doing our top five movies and we are now Eddie's number three musical movie. This is one of my favorite biopicks. I'm gonna have to go with this, even though Joaquin Phoenix makes me feel awkward when I watch him act. Is that because later on he had awkward things or is it because just the way he acts, He's just weird to me. He just acts weird, even when he played Johnny Cash and Walk the line, which is my number three pick. You thought he was weird in it because it's my number three picks, so we can talk about it together. Yes, man, I don't know what it is. Just watching him acts makes makes me feel uneasy, like peculiar movements. Yes, you know, I just don't watch acting, like I don't know a good actor or a bad actor. People give Ben Affleck crap for sucking how to give him all the oscars for Armageddon. You never watch a movie and then in the middle of it you just kind of, oh, I forget that he's a character. I'm looking at Ben Affleck. Only if it's someone who's fame supersedes the movie, so then you notice they're acting. Yeah, I don't though I don't know I've ever done that. You know who I do it with all the time. Or hold on, let me let me rephrase that. Or if it's someone who's fame as a non actor super like if I were watching the movie the hair Styles was in, you recommend I didn't watch it the war movie? Oh yeah, dun Kirk, when you watch watch UK, Yes I did. And Harry Styles in that? Are you like that's one direction? Yes, that's Harry Style. Would be and he's a war right, that would be just why I can't. I can't do this because Harry style. Yeah, I guess that would happen if any of the Friends casts were in that movie trouble was getting type cast or having something so big yelling that's like Arkle, no, he can't do any Then if Arkle was trying to do a race car movie, oh look, it's like so so no no, But I wouldn't notice acting unless it was someone who was a non actress. I just I don't. I guess I'm not well, I guess as hard as it is for me to watch Joaquin Phoenix, dude, he nailed Johnny Cash, like nailed it. And that's kind of the thing with going back to LaBamba. Richie Vallen's nailed Joacan Phoenix nailed Johnny Cash to me, like, I never saw him, but I watched a lot of videos of him, and to sing like that, it's pretty amazing when you're doing a biopic and you have to sing just like Johnny Cash. That's true to the singing part of it. When you're singing and not as a fictional character, but you're having to sing as a real life person who is like, yeah, as a legend, Yeah, you're right about that. What was your What did you like about going back and looking at a lot of the accuracy of a major motion picture. It didn't get everything exactly right, and it glossed over some of the really dark stuff. But I felt for one of those big time Hollywood movies where they just wanted to be a story and kind of feel good. I thought it did a pretty good job in the two hours at one entertaining people to give no crap about country music, and also the people that do like country music, letting them feel a bit fulfilled as well. So I thought that was cool because I'm a Johnny Cash cas some marketsas maybe be a Johnny Cash fan, you know. That was one of the one of the records she had of like eleven record and she had a few Johnny Cash records, and he was He wasn't the legend to us. He was one of us, so pretty amazing. That's gotta be interesting feeling. But he was never the country music legend. It's weird to go where everyone's like, oh, Johnny Cash Cash, like he's the king of all country. He was just one of the Arkansas people. That made Arkansas people proud interested and my grandmother would talking about going to disconcerts. People would hate hate him because he was playing rock and roll music because that wasn't country. And I guess that's probably where all of my kind of disdain for people who go, well, that's not country comes from, because she would tell me the stories how people would just react so negatively to him because what he was doing was not country at that time. When he started it, it wasn't country, and he kind of turned it over to making that country. What was your grandma's take on that, She loved him whatever he did. Yeah, he was one of us. He's one of us that that that made it out of living in the sixty mile radius that we all are forced to do. And it's not about were money, but we all are. We are we are in our roots, are in that little town and usually don't leave. And you're kind of proud of him because he left and came back and that's that was cool and always represented it. Always always yes, that was a cool thing. So but yeah, I think about that like Johnny Cash was. And you don't like to compare anyone to a legend because nobody current is legend status yet, but Johnny Cash, Garth Brooks went through it, um and you know, you see people now And I'm gonna get crushed for saying this, but it could be people like Sam in ten Ure. If we look at Sam Hunt and go when people were blowing Sam blowing up sand not blowing like blowing up or Florida Georgia line and people who maybe people are like that Florida lats like and you're like, weren't they nuts? And it could be they may not be the people, could be somebody else. We don't know yet. It does it, but it's that's the one common thing is that it's there's always been something that isn't country that ends up turning everything else to country. So always get irritated that's not country people. I don't mind that, that's for sure country people. But I don't like that that's not country people. Yeah, it's weird. I don't ever associate Johnny Cash with just country. Oh you don't, I do, only do I don't. And he's the only him and Elvis the only two in the rock and roll and country music call of fames. I love that they're the only two, and I don't associate all of us the country. Yeah, he's the rocky. He's the king of rock and roll. So that's so funny because I only associate Johnny Cash with hard country. Maybe the hipsters changed that for me or something, because you don't know, he's not super super, he's just he's just music. He's possibly the most country thing. Hank Senior. I don't call Hank Senior come like cool Hank Woer because he was one my ground would listen to. But him and Johnny Cash are the super super country guys. Like I'll never think Whalen is a rock and roll guy. I won't think will he's a rock and roll guy. Yeah, me either. But Johnny, for some reason, it's just like that's why because he was, he's in the rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yeah, that's the number three on both of our left. Let me talk about quit for a second. 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Oh I like this game, but when I saw the movie, I learned so much about him, not even knowing how true any of it was, but how crazy this guy in his mand lived their life and how they could actually how this guy could even function now it's a movie, it's a biopic. How this I could even function day today the way he lived. Huh I don't know the doors Oh yeah, Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer played Jim Morrison. Dude, blew my mind like it was so. I think Oliver Stone made the movie. Did I know I watched it. I haven't seen it in so long, I don't remember. It is it that good to go back and watch. Oh yeah, it's what I like it now. I think you would, I think you would. And and here's the thing you watch about the stuff like you don't know how true any of it is. You don't know what counts, or who told the stories, or why they decided to go with those stories, or how they told or how they're telling them. But what I liked about this one is there was just so many There were so many things they took from lyrics and his poetry and just turn it into whatever they wanted to. They don't really know how he lived his life, but it's such a haze, and you can tell that he was high all the time and not knowing what anyone looked like when he was talking to them. It's trippy, dude, so trippy, and it makes you listen to the door music, like, wow, how did these guys even function? I watched the interview with Jim Morrison, probably from the late seventies, and he was talking about how he could see the future. And I'm like, all right, dude, is mess up And he's like, no, man, I see the future. I can tell you right now what music is. Then watching and he goes, what's gonna happen is people can use computers to make music. Do you have to think this is the seventies, nobody had a personal computer. Especially, no one's djaying like we're using computers and he's like music, he's gonna make beats. Man, is I can't believe you don't see it. He's doing a television talk show. So watch it now you go, Oh my god, Like, how was he predicting this before he was even able to be predicted? They're gonna have this thing called Facebook. Man, everyone's gonna hate each other and left and you'll find you it's like touch called tumble, or people aren't even gonna go on dates anymore. Man. But now he was predicting that computers would make music, And my mind was blow. I watched like a year ago. Mind blown because the dude like he saw it. I think if you ask half the people that are Doors fans or whatever, where do you think Jim Morrison was like, you know, poetic and smart and like or the other half are just like he's just full of crap and probably a bit of both, because I don't think anyone's all smart, and I don't think anyone like that good and full and a message they present themselves. Don't think that that full of crap either. It's hard to it's hard to stay consistently full of crap. So all consistently full of crap. But everyone just saw it, like you said, he's just weird. Yes, yes, but I think we'd you and like, well, no, it's just you don't create weird things unless you're weird weird. You don't create special things these the word special, because weird can be looked at in a negative way. You don't create special things unless you have some sort of special mind to able to do that. And that means you're not like other people, because if you were, you wouldna be able to create things other people couldn't create. And so yeah, he's probably odd and nuts, but that's the beauty of being able to create is odd nutty stuff that no one else can and you have to deal with the both. I think Keith, everyone's in today and I mentioned it to him and I was like, hey, what's the deal, Like, you can't just create nutty stuff and not be and only be nutty when you create music, but not anywhere else. But I liked his answer. Some people not all. I think. The only reason I agree with what he said and what I've always thought is some artists are just actors, you know, really really good act But isn't that an art in itself to be able to act and to to portray yourself as something else? Meaning you're probably doing that your personal life too, Like it's all you're just not able to be superbly nutty somewhere and not be superbly nutty somewhere else. You can't just have one arm that is a credible whole arm and the rest of your body's me, you know, you can't. There's something there, It's like, So that's my and Eddie and I've had this competition for you a long a long time on an offering, and I think we end up the same spot. Not everyone bones, but everyone, really, I do. I think there's there's a bit if you're creating something special, I E. Nutty, I E weird, I E amazing part of you and it's different part of you? Is that nutty different all the time? All right? You don't just get to do it? That's what you think? I like it? Right, Thank you very much. That's special number two on my list. It's one, really one of the best biopics that I think I've ever seen, and I learned a lot about this guy. And the music was fantastic, And it's one of those like walk the Line where you go always got to live up to the music, and this guy crushed the music. Dude, I think I know what you're talking about, you know what as I think I know who you're talking about, but I don't know who played him. What movie you think I'm talking about? I think you're talking about the one about um uh, the King of Soul. What's his name? Oh, James Brown was great. It was great. It was not him, but that was a great one that that almost made my list. But I didn't think that the James Brown music in that movie was as good as this one. Yeah, oh got it? What is it? Jamie Foxx was awesome. Have you seen Ray Ray? The heroine in it? Went blew my mind that he was a heroin addict like that? What kind of I mean? Or just even just to even know someone with that many that many faults in jail. He was kind of a bad dude. Yeah, you know, And and I never thought that. I don't think anyone just by listening to his music or watching him perform, you think that could be a bad dude. And it's because then we didn't know who was good or bad based on the information being there was no information pipeline coming out. You just had. The pipeline was the records. That's it. And the TV appearances where now Instagram, t MZ everywhere people just tweeting a run in with someone. There was there was no way he was banging chicks everywhere, and I say that all the artists were for the most part. You know, there's but but it's just different life. So why do you think, let me ask this, why do you think it's okay in these biopics to just let it all out once they die? Like who makes that decision? And like do you think their kids are kind of like I don't want them my dad being portrayed like that, even though he kind of was that way there. I think sometimes there are issues where that happened. If there was one recently in front of think of the movie where the family was like, we don't sign off on this, but you don't have to sign because that was like what I felt like, it was full exposure. But it also you have to think that it makes a better movie. So the people that are making the movie want to put and they want to make the best movie. They're not out to win an award for the most accurate bio picks. As a consumer, we have to realize that they wanted to be accurate because they want people to say, wow, like how real life this movie was, But they don't get an award for that. They wanted to be a great movie, right, And the way to make a great movie is through the story. And if you can really share some things that you're fascinated by through this story that also happened to be real, that makes the better movie. It's all about the best movie and making the money. All goes back to money, So you don't have that permission to tell someone's story. There are a lot of un authorized even biographies of people. Was Marvin Gayla when you were thinking of they didn't sign off on Yeah, it's it's still being made pretty recently. Yeah, and his family, Yeah it was, That's exactly who it was. And his family was like, no, we're not signing off on this, or maybe they haven't signed off yet, but it doesn't matter fully, right, I'd love to hear that real story too. Anyway, just just the dad and their whole relationship, and she just seems like a tough, tough, tough life and a lot of stuff they had to deal with, you know, outside of his music. Fascinating to me with that that the bios. It will go to the book for a second. It's not music, but the Steve Jobs biography. Have you read it? It's like a million pages read, but it's it's really it's great, right and it takes a minute and it's boring at times. But Steve Jobs had this guy write this book about him, and he said, Uh, find it all out, write at all. I don't even want to look at it until you finish it. And it's about to be it's published. Like everything you find put in the book. Talk to my daughter, who I abandoned forever. She's about to come up with with a book too, all of it the bad, the worst, some of the good. And I wanted all to exist. And he was sick at the time too, and so he went and had someone right an unauthorized biography that he authorized, meaning he didn't have to authorize that it was going. He wanted it all out there, and it was like, once it's done, then I will go back over and read I believe that's what is it? That a little different when you know you're dying. Yeah, I'm not absolutely, I'm just saying like, hey, if I know, that's even different than being alive, Like that's the that's like the middle ground with us, that's the weird. But I think they want to make good movies. Just going back to Ray, I think you put all that stuff in. It makes for a better it makes a better redemption story because at the end of Ray, you're ex playing the super Bowl and you feel for him. Yeah, you understand what makes them human. That's a great point, and it makes it because we all, we all have humongous faults and flaws and we all are awesome. We all suck and we see someone else that we look at as being amazing also having really touch troubles. You go, oh, well, it felt so bad. Like even to the great ones, they have troubles too. So number two for me, it's Ray. Uh, you're probably gonna hate my number one. Oh no, what is it? What gets so stupid? What is your number one musical movie of all time? My number one all time? This is this is just the anthem of my life, everything I've loved about music, like everything. So Cameron Crow, like, okay, I got it. This is this is a funny story. When I was in college, I knew I wanted to do something, you know, in in movie making or something. Ended up being a video guy, but something you know along those lines. And I wanted to contact Cameron Crow because of this movie. You can say what it is if you said, camera Crows, we know what do you? Almost Famous? I mean? So I did email Cameron Crow and I reached out and I told him I wanted to work for him and all that and long letter of it, and I never heard anything back. So I gotta tell you I liked it. I didn't love it, dude, Almost Famous, And I probably because of that reaction. If you hear the movies awesome before you see it, you have awesome expectations. It's very much the hangover for me. I'd really like to hangover a lot. But people told me it was the greatest movie ever. There's no way it could meet the expectations set and mid you watch Almost Famous, I didn't. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of people's favorite movie. I I love that it was his story of when he was a kid, except the band was fictional, so he was, you know, the writer of the script and the director of the movie. But he his life was that little boy who was hired by Rolling Stone magazine. And Rolling Stone thought that he was of age at least legally to write an article, and he wasn't. I think he was like thirteen years old. And he got to tour with his the heart of the nineteen seventies rock and roll. Dude, these guys doing drugs, chicks everywhere city, different girls, and this little thirteen year old was living it. And uh, and he understood it as a thirteen year old, you know, like what they did and some of them had wives at home, but this is what they do on the road, and this is a lifestyle. And and the fact that this really happened to him and he could make a movie on its amazing, so amazing. I think the real band was led Zeppelin that he toured with. Yeah, but and and it led me down a whole wormhole of finding old you know, Rolling Stone articles that he used to write and back in the day, and he was yeah, when he's a kid again. It was so over hyped. I didn't get a fair shot at it. Can you try it again? Well, I gotta watch. I got about three other ones. First, you have that George Harrison when you want to watch two. Oh, that's a three hour documentary. I'll probably I'll dip my toe into that one. The investment, I know. But I did watch the full Eagles documentary, which was fantastic. I think that was three days long and it was great. I think CNN ran it over four weeks because it was that long. It was like two hours tonight, two hours to more. Was it really that long? It was a big day. Yeah, I feel like I did it in two days. But yeah, all right, you're number one. Let's go. Let's go my number one. I still like when when the final scene of this movie's on, I go, dude, I'm ready now, la vampa. And it's also given me a bit of perspective, and I think when I saw it, I went, oh, that's how to that's how to win. That's how to win. You don't have to it's how you win. Yeah, not to go on attack mode. You don't have to go out and beat the other person up. That's not how to win. How do you win? Then you attack yourself first, so they can't if I if I'm knocking to be down, no one else can knock me down. I'm gonna ahead and put all my stuff out there, put it all out for everybody to see. They can get you know, it's hard for you to punch me in the face if I'm already down. Such a movie, freaking Eminem was in it. Go ahead. I've never seen it. Really, I've seen some of the rap battle scenes. The final the final scene would be Rabbit and he's like, I know you gotta talk about a mom. I know you're gonna do this, and I was like, oh, holy crap, like that that's how he got it, like because the other guys about to throw all on him, make face like I got him. I gotta be Rabbit. I'm gonna say this, And then Eminem be Rabbit goes down and goes, I know you're about to say this, but let me say it first. Here's the thing I'm gonna do. I know I'm the worst, and he's just and you're going, oh, that's life. Let me take your power that you think you have from you and let me use that as my strength because I know I suck. I know I have things about me either a week, let me go and put them out there and show you that I'm still okay with that, and then I'm gonna go late later down. This one's personal to you. Maybe maybe I feel like it sounds like you're talking to people right now. Yeah, that was the thing, man, What do you think Mike about? And it hurt me to not put a knowledge movie at number one, But I just wasn't shaken by anything as much as I was eight miles that's held up. I've had I've retained knowledge from things. I told you. I'll watched the the documentary with Jannis Choplin and I had seen that one. By the way, Yeah, what's crazy is whenever she put out Oh I mean me and Bobby McGee, she was already dead. She was dead, her biggest song she was Dead, which wasn't even her right, and he didn't hear it until it was out. Crazy man. But no one knows Chris Christoperson for it. I say, no one, And I'm a big music fan, and I really no, no, no. I think the majority of the people that like that song or even know that song and don't even know that it was Chris Chris Stopperson's yeah, because I don't know that I did. Oh man, that documentary was heavy. I think it's so heavy because I just didn't know what she went through as a kid, and you know, the way that she was bullied and made fun of and but but dude, she came back and she was a are and everyone loved her. She just, you know, I felt bad for because she wanted to prove everybody wrong instead of proving And I feel like in my life now trying to prove people right more than I do people wrong doing the Marshall Mathers, No, No, that's the whole different thing. Why you can't He's like, yeah, you know like this, you know, like rabbit Man, I got to be rabbits Oka. But she was angry, and I think I related a like because I was angry for and you know, I still have a little bits there where I'm like, man, they can suck it. I really don't have a nemesis right now. It bothers. You need one, Can we find one for you? I don't. It doesn't put me in you've seen me in that super competitive Yes it's not good, it's not, but but it does drive you, dude, It's driven me for so long, I've had nemesis this everywhere I've been that have just constantly it is. It could have been people at school, it could have been teachers that I sucked from other radio shows. I don't have a nemesis now, yeah, you need one. I don't want one, because then that means someone is doing something on the level I think that we're at. I don'tant anybody else in the level where we are right now. Well, whatever you're doing now is working kind for now, I have an I love to compete so much, but it makes it's unhealthy for me. And it's not about winning. This is about not losing. Oh dude, let me ask you this. So you're not not just I mean you're on the radio, of course, but but you also you're an author, You're a musician. No, you have a band, you're a musician. You're an artist. You're a musician. I just kind of dance that you're an artist. I'll take that. Um, your TV now, you're all these things. Dude. You can take on people from any media now, you know. But but my actual thing is radio. So I don't I mean, I don't or I needs some sort of way to compete in something like, I have this burning desire to just just I just love the competition part of life. And maybe because I did it for soul long and I think that's what's it's maybe a monster a bit of time to do there anyway you can compete without having an emesis? You thing? No, because I don't like running. The mynlitgy will be running. I hate running. Whom I competing against myself? Who cares? Okay, I lost, but who want me? Who'd I lost to me? Yeah? You play your competing to get yourself. You win, that sounds great to me. And you lose, that sounds great to me. Like I'm tired. I quit, and I'm like, I'm such a loser. But I guess also one, Yeah, there you go. Um they I liked your list. I did like your list. Thank you man. And you gotta go pick up his kids? I do? I do. My wife has a friend date tonight. Oh yeah, yeah, I just heard a couple other friends. They're gonna paint and drink wine or something. Oh, let me say that. The Sore Losers podcast is up and running. Yeah it did you guys do it today? We did one today. You may hear this a different day. So I may not be up, but I just wonder if you guys are doing them. But you guys, every day, you guys talk about, um, is it all sports? No? So so it's funny because you know lunch Box, Uh, he's the sports guy. He is the sports guy of the show, and all he wants to do is talk about sports. He wants to lead the show with sports and end it with sports. And and me and Ray we're sports fans and we love sports, but we're more of just like, hey, let's talk about you know, going to the game. You went to the game this weekend, like, talk about that and lunch Box and like, so we're having a little bit of struggle. I think we'll get it down, but we're having a struggle of what we want to show to be because we want more life and lunch Box wants all sports. You guys trying to my Nemesis maybe and see now you're talking Nemesis podcast. But it's fun, dude. We're learning a lot and I'm waiting for the right time to come to you and be like, hey, man, what do you think? But I don't want to ask you that yet. I don't want to know why I don't listen yet, because you guys need to figure out what you're doing right or wrong first. Even if you're figuring out something wrong, you're still figuring something out committing to something. If you're bouncing all over the place, you haven't kind of found your footing, So might you have to find your wrong footing before you can be told it's right. And there's some just things wrong and right. There's just more effective ways to do it. So, uh, yeah, I think it's gonna be a bit. Do we get there, It's gonna be a no. The only thing that is that is just you know, keeping everyone together. Yesterday Ray had to leave in the middle of it, had a I think it's fine that you guys can do it too, man. And the great part about being three man show is that you can even do it two man. A lot of times, I know, I just like the three person dynamic. Like today I had to go, but I stuck it out and I was really late And how long? About twenty minutes is the average that we're doing right now, but today's was like almost forty minutes. The Sore Losers podcast sore as in s O u A, Yeah, like we're sore yes, a different way, the sore like an eagle. Yes, okay, uh, that's it. Thanks for hanging with us, Thanks to Quip, and thanks to obviously sleep number, and thanks to Eddie for coming by being here. Man my musical semi expert, we probably messed up a lot of things in that. If we did, I'm sorry. You don't have to tell us. Yeah, well we'll just we'll just apologize in advance. Mike do you? Thank you? Mikey. Do you have a favorite musical movie? Fit to pick one? Spinal Tap? I was going to put that on my list too, because it's just influenced everything, not even just music, but even that entire mockumentary The Office, Like The Office doesn't exist without Spinal Tap, and that's my favorite show. I feel like the Anvil movie I think was inspired by Spinal Tap but real life. But that's a great one. Spinal Tap one of my favorite movies of all time. I would have felt like opposed you're staying in that one. I feel like I should be on everyone's list. All right, that's it, Thank you very much. We'll see you next time. I ready