Episode 170 | Rory Got PUNCHED In The Face!

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Speaker 2: I think if you can't spell, you should be allowed.

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Speaker 4: Purpose guy.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you no.

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Speaker 6: Worrian Georgia, Georgia country name, country slang things at the liquor stone, black crews and crap, overcast of boatcast souls, clouds from plenty and we ready for.

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Speaker 3: I just think that.

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Speaker 2: Again, just like.

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Speaker 5: Dudes dressing up like that, fucking you know, other ships are like same sex people adopting kids, like we should look into that. That's gonna affect the kids at some point. It is, I don't know in which what way, but it is gonna affect the kids like this.

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Speaker 3: First of all.

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Speaker 5: First of all, anybody that's adopted should have therapy anyway. Okay, I think anybody that's adopted, whether you.

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Speaker 3: Some abandonment issues and you're doing a.

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Speaker 2: Heterosexual family or whatever.

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Speaker 5: But I think, but now when you start saying, Okay, this kid was adopted by two men that are married, so I think that you definitely need because you don't think that that kid in the society living, that kid is going to be picked on in school for having two dads.

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Speaker 3: When I was growing up, yes, now, that kid's probably the coolest kid on the school yard.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that kid is getting picked on. What the way these kids.

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Speaker 2: Are the fuck out of here.

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Speaker 5: You don't think a kid with the same sex parents is getting picked on the school today?

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Speaker 4: Possibly, but not as often.

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Speaker 3: My little cousins are the most social justice fucking warriors at their high school.

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Speaker 4: These kids do not play. These kids don't use the word. They don't like. These kids are growing up on the internet.

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Speaker 3: I think I think people like you would bully the kids. I think their peers would like them.

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Speaker 2: I was never a bully.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying like right now, no, I'm not a bully.

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Speaker 2: Somebody like me.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't me personally. I don't give a fuck about it.

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Speaker 3: I just know how kids are wherein different Where are.

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Speaker 4: The kids you went to school with? They different from the kids that we went to school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they are.

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Speaker 1: We're I think we were probably the last batch of that, like toxic home.

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Speaker 3: No way, we see it. We still see it.

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Speaker 4: These kids, man, the kids I talk every once in a while, but not not the way that it used to be. These kids are way softer.

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Speaker 5: I just think that, like I said, heterosexual, even if you if you're adopted as a kid, you definitely need your family needs to all need to have therapy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't disagree with that at all. I just don't know if there's like it being two dads or two moms would really change anything in a general perspective, Like if you look in at these two people that got married and they're just shitty people, then that's the thing. I don't just think because there's two dads it's going to be a weird scenario for that kid. I think so these are actually way more responsible than us. No, not even the responsible thing.

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Speaker 5: I just think the optic of it, like if going to school, like kids sometimes don't have.

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Speaker 3: A filter.

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Speaker 5: And it's not that they're not trying to be mean, just sometimes they just ask a question like you have two dads, Like if you if your parents are two dads, or two women and go to your fucking pta or for the first time and your classmates see them. You don't think that your classmates somebody's gonna say something like you have two dads?

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Speaker 3: Like okay, what do you think would be worse for a child being adopted into a gay family, A responsible one, one that was vetted through the adoption system, couldn't wait to be parents takes it very seriously. Or the kid whose mother has an only fans and in the lunch room someone can pull up his mother's nudes. Wait, you lost me. What's gonna be more of a traumatic thing? The kid with the straight parents but the mom is on only fans and I could pull up her nudes in the cafeteria, or the guy that has two amazing supportive I think.

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Speaker 5: I think, well, obviously, if you're if you're if your peers can see your mom naked, that's gonna be something way more. Or your dad, if you or dad, if you see if you see your mom with dad naked, that's gonna be traumatic for you. You know saying so, I mean that goes without saying. But I do think that both of those are the same and where kids in school.

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Speaker 2: Will find a way to poke fund at either one of those.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: I think you're right, and you you probably will get in trouble by the principal and dean and shit like that for making fun of a kid having gay parents more than poking fun at making a kid laughing at a kid for his mom having.

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Speaker 3: An only fans.

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Speaker 5: I believe that like you probably get expelled for having you know what I'm saying, making fun of a kid having gay parents. Yeah, I'm agreeing with you on that, but it's gonna be traumatic for you either way if kids in your school find your mom's only fans.

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Speaker 3: Or kids are gonna find and kids are mean, but that'll find anything.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 3: If it's two supportive gay parents, I mean that kids, No, I think on top.

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Speaker 5: Support supportive parents, what portive parents. I don't give a fuck what they are, heterosexual or gay, I don't care. I'm just saying that I think that they should definitely be provided with some type of counseling or therapy because, especially coming up in school, kids are fucking it, just have no filter something.

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Speaker 4: But why do they have to get therapy because kids get picked down for all sorts of reasons in school. Kids get picked down for being poor, kids get being picked down for not being conventionally attractive. Kid. That's part of building character is getting picked on.

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Speaker 5: Don't say that. Don't say that. That's not a part. It should be a part of building the character. But you picked on kids, now you get expelled, you get kicked out.

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Speaker 3: Of that school.

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Speaker 5: When I was getting picked on and you had to take that ship, you had to deal with it. It was part of growing up. It was like, Okay, they talking about me, they bullying me. Okay, the kid that's bullying one day, just punch him in his face.

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Speaker 2: You'll stop.

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Speaker 5: Once his nose is bleeding. I bet you gonna fuck with you again. But kids now it is different. Now they're you know, they're they're more coddle. They're like, nah, okay, he's picking on you. We're going to remove him from this class, and this, that and the third. That wasn't a thing. But if you got if you told him to bully. When I was in high school, it wasn't removing him from the class.

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Speaker 2: It was like, all right, like what you want to We'll sit you over here and.

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Speaker 5: It will sit you over here and sit him over there thing, and it's like he's still in my fucking class and he's pressing me by the lockers.

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Speaker 1: As soon as the classes over now get like mental health breaks and get escorts to walk them in the hallways to feel better, and which I'm not opposed to, the way that they're coddled is drastically different.

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Speaker 5: But you see that they get older though, yeah, I mean, but the cause I'm with Themaras, I believe that that's part of growing up picked on. Like I said all the time, if growing up in my neighborhood, if you had on a crazy outfit, you got snapped on all day, and you can't go change because that's gonna make it worse because you could come back down with the best outfit in your closet and they still gonna find.

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Speaker 2: A way to shit on you. So it's like, yo, you upas and changed, but you're a clown.

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Speaker 4: But there's different, there's different.

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Speaker 5: Now, oh my god, they go crazy, they start fucking tearing their own room up and punching holes in the wall.

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Speaker 4: It's like, but there's different. There's different kinds of bullying or like getting there's a difference between getting picked on and getting bullied, because I knew kids that got like we all like cut each other's asses. But if you picking on the kid that like doesn't really fuck with anybody, I don't give what his outfit looks like, or you know, he's quiet whatever, he playing with fucking gio cards, like you leave him the funk alone. Like we all knew that because we had this one dude that left a letter and was like, y'o, I'll shoot up to school if y'all keep fucking with me.

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Speaker 3: Gotta give that kid some gum.

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Speaker 1: Let them know, give them some I see you can gum changes every time said that we had My school had so many potential schools. You my high five in the hallway.

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Speaker 3: Let him know, I see you.

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Speaker 1: So when they bring that thing in, you're just like.

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Speaker 3: Remember me, I'm the gum man.

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Speaker 2: I gave you that.

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Speaker 1: I can run because I'm pussy, but I fuck with you.

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Speaker 3: Though, wasn't that.

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Speaker 2: Part of the column ship. Wasn't those kids like bullied the trench Coat mafia kids. Wasn't that like their thing?

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Speaker 3: It was like ten of them, Yeah, but wasn't they like bullied?

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Speaker 1: There's ten friends they were kids were lucky.

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Speaker 5: They were bullied, right, is that when they started.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't no normal, It was no different than.

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Speaker 5: Like, isn't that why they started that whole that whole little click the trench coat because they were like they picked on kids and it was.

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Speaker 3: Like culture hard though Yeah, I mean like as far as esthetically the crew was, the thoughts were cool, like they were in the woods with with automatic rifles and Morpheus coats, very black panther esque. Not doing that.

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Speaker 2: See how you tried to do that.

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Speaker 3: Don't do that, but you just tried. Don't try it? Right. When I was in elementary school, we had indoor recess, Like remember when with rain or whatever you can go outside. Do you just have a recess in the classroom? This kid, uh gem moved from Turkey and he barely spoke English, so naturally everyone picked on him. Of course, real reftable reason to make fun of a kid he can't speak English. Yeah, he's definitely getting picked And I was, I was being a follower. I was involved in the making fun of him. During indoor recess. He cot back and gave me the bloodiest nose I have ever had in my life. I went to the teacher like a bitch. She said, get a napkin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you deserved it, and you never fucked with them again.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 3: Actually we went to junior high together too, and some of high school and we became cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a night.

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Speaker 3: Once he learned how to speak English, I could at least have a conversation with him.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of bullying is just you heard that bloody nose though you Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of that though.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of bullying is that is genuinely because kids sometimes don't know how to break that ice of talking to another kid that they think is different. So like, if you see a kid that's an immigrant that doesn't that's not from this country.

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Speaker 2: As a kid, naturally you'll just.

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Speaker 5: Start poking fun at him because he doesn't speak English, he dresses different, he's not from here, things like that. But in a weird way, it's because you're like, yo, who is this kid? Like what's his story? What are you about?

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Speaker 3: That actually stopped me from being a follower to some degree in a weird therapeutic way, because I didn't want to pick on him. I was doing it because everyone else was doing it, And then I got punched in the nose, and I was like, I just got punched the nose for something I didn't even want to do, Like I didn't want to bully that kid. I was just being a follower and that's what people were doing. And then I, you know, it helps build your character too, if I did want to pick on him and get punched. That's one thing.

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Speaker 4: Want to be in your face. Being punched in your face really changes your life. That's all people need something, It really changes it.

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Speaker 2: That's all people need.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes just get punched in the face, and then it's like every the dynamic of everything changes, The dynamic of y'all relationship changes, The dynamic of things you may have done to this person.

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Speaker 2: Down the line changes, like, now.

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Speaker 5: This person has looked that different because they're yo, he'll punch you in your face though, So y'all keep sitting and poking on this kid if.

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Speaker 2: Y'all want, he'll punch in your faith. It changes everything, and sometimes that's all you need.

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Speaker 4: You you learn to think. You learn to like really stop and think about the ship that you say when you get punched.

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Speaker 1: It to what you were saying earlier, Ma about how do you talk to someone that's different than you when I was teaching, and like throughout the training going up into before I actually got stepped on the classroom. So much of what's like underfunded and mostly cut from the education system, especially grade school, is the sel learning, the social motion learning, because it's not a tangible subject in terms.

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Speaker 3: Of like history, math, science.

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Speaker 1: It's just more about kids being able to properly communicate with each other, have like conflicts and how to find resolve and that often gets cut. So then that's when like the altercations, like the physical violence. And I feel like it's weird because we're in such like what you said earlier, we're in such a world where everyone's included, like we love everyone, celebrate everybody and all their differences. But clearly that's not translating to the youth in terms of like where we're seeing all these outbursts with like school shootings. Yeah, just like outbursts of violence in a more catastrophic way rather than someone just low key getting pushed in the face, like that's not a news story, or we're seeing like innocent kids and random people just lose their lives because someone was bullied. Yeah, it's just weird, like we're in such a world where it's like everyone is love, we love everyone, but it's just not translated at all.

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Speaker 2: It's it's and that's the thing.

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Speaker 5: Like sometimes you cause, again, you want people to feel seen and feel included, but everybody should not be included though, Like there's some people out here that don't mean well, that.

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Speaker 2: Don't care about other people.

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Speaker 5: So those are the people that shouldn't be included in what the rest of society has going on.

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Speaker 3: Like those are the outcasts. It's like, yo, these people don't care.

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Speaker 5: About nobody, Like, they don't mean well, they're fucked up in the head. So instead of saying, these are the people that we should get help for, like, recognize it early, like, Okay, that person has a problem. Not though this person is different, you don't understand them. No, that's going to turn into a problem. Identify that, get the person help, and then you most likely are changing catastrophic things from.

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Speaker 3: Happening down the line.

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Speaker 5: But now if I say, oh, something wrong with this person, they want to cancel me for saying it, or they get mad at me for saying it. It's like, wait, y'all, don't see how this person this is going to turn into a problem.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean some people would say they've become that way because they weren't cared for to begin with, and they're shitty people because they were treated so shitty and it just manifested itself in that regard. Get them help. But even then that's I agree, but that has become almost like a blanket statement and politicized like it's easier said than done, Especially somebody that is really fucked up. Just because you put them in front of a therapist or put them in counseling doesn't mean that it's going to be received. I mean, it should happen regardless, But that's almost like a way softer way of our rehabilitation or people going to jail. They're not rehabilitating them. They maybe just be making them worse. And I think that can happen in a lot of instances with school counselors and like just putting a band aid over it, like we have a guidance counselor and put the kid in there. Yeah, done, there goes our liability. We did what we could.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I see what you're saying, But I think that a lot of people do get help and do get rehabilitated. Like, I know people that did time in jail, they came home, never did nothing illegal again. They was like, I'm never getting.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that was a repeat system of rehabilitation. I think it was just how insane the environment of jail was. They was like, nah, I'm cool with it again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, Like, but some people do are repeat defendives. Some people they just that's just they're gonna keep going to jail. That's those are the people that you cannot help. Sometimes you just can't help people.

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Speaker 2: We know that. But there is I think more.

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Speaker 5: Cases than none that we can look at and be like, Okay, therapy helped this person. Being incarcerated for a crime changed this person's live. They came home, they became a different person, They started getting into different things. It's still the same mindset of because a lot of the times it was an interesting program where they were hiring Fortune five hundred companies were hiring a lot of like former drug kingpins because they looked at it like, well, this person made hundreds of millions of dollars selling something illegal.

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Speaker 3: They're good business man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's take that brain in that mindset, and let's just put this person in and help them, you know, get into something where they're selling something that's legal, because it's still a mindset of being able to build an empire and run the empire and generate that much money. Yeah, and whatever it is that you're doing it legal or illegal. So I think things like that, It's like, okay, that to me, that's rehab Yeah, this person was a drug kingpin, did twenty years, came home, this company hired them to be you know, do marketing whatever it was like, to help the company build their brand and market themselves and do whatever they was doing.

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Speaker 2: Now this person is.

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Speaker 5: Given speeches at colleges and like, yeah, I did twenty years for selling heroin or selling cocaine. Then I was hired by this company now run this but don't well you know.

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Speaker 4: That that's a Cinderella story.

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Speaker 3: And no, no, no, it's not a people to me that don't really need rehabilitation. They're extremely intelligent people that were placed in a circumstance where that was probably the only option. They had the mindset of a CEO, but not the opportunity to become one legally. They were one on that so when they go to jail and they come out. It's like, I mean, I'm smart. I did that because I was in a really shitty situation and I got myself out of it the only way I knew how. It just happened to be illegal. And yes, people harmed this and that. It's the people that are like, have violent outrages and shit that harm innocent people that need to be rehabilitated before they come back out. Well, we're not someone that like.

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Speaker 5: No, but that's if you're a we know if you're running a drug empire, we know what was going on. There's a lot of violence that comes from there. You need rehab for that. You caused a lot of destruction on the streets.

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Speaker 3: I agree, No, you need to serve time for that. I don't know if if they necessarily, if they have an option when they get out of jail to not have to do anything illegal, they would need rehabilitation to make that choice. Like I think, what's what's a drug kingmin? Do we think do we think Freeway Director Ross needed like rehabilitation or that was just a gentleman that was put in a situation and his brain took him to the top. In the situation, he was in. I don't think he got out of jail and was like, damn, I just need to sell heroin. No, No, I have other opportunities.

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Speaker 5: Though, yes, and because of who he is maybe yes, but there are other people that don't have those.

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Speaker 3: Again, they come home and it's still no other option.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's like, that's why they need rehabilitation, because you you need to learn how to channel your whatever gift you have of being able to sell a product, channel that into a different direction.

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Speaker 3: But what's what's so fucked up about that is the prison system is designed to do otherwise. Yes, because if you have, like if you have someone like let's say Supreme from the Supreme Team, him getting out of jail as a felon, it's very tough to maneuver. The only way he actually could was fucking with IRV and hip hop because hip hop takes care of people that can't get actual jobs. Because a felon's.

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Speaker 2: Genet come from those situations.

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Speaker 3: It's very tough for felons, of course, Preme being a huge kinkhim, but there's also you know people that do five years for selling drugs on a way smaller level but have a really intelligent brain. It's impossible to get a job once you get out, so it's hard to rehabilitate when you're not even given the option to use the gifts you have in a legal way. So that's what needs to change as well. Like if Freeway gets out of jail with that brain and is able to immediately get in a workforce in a legal way, I think he's doing it. But sometimes those opportunities aren't there and it's like, well, let me go get a pack. Nah.

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Speaker 5: But no, because because again the rehab comes from because once you're making money like that, you becoming you become addicted to money. Like we watched we watched I don't want to sp for Damerica because she's watching the snowfall. You know, Franklin became It's like how Hope said, we become accustomed to the money. It's kind of like the fiends were accustomed to serving. It's like we become addicts now because we're addicted to this fast money, the lifestyle, the cause, the jewelry to women, things like that. So now if you have that mindset and you know you were used to making hundreds of millions of dollars on the streets illegally, and you come home and they're like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's this nice job.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get paid the first very month, and this that and the third, and it's like okay, cool. But then you're gonna look up and be like, man, I ain't used to this shit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah this ain't.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're giving me five thousand dollars a month. I was making that in an hour on the streets, you know what I'm saying. So they need to rehab because they're addicted to that lifestyle. They need a lot to have that lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: So that's where the.

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Speaker 3: Rehabilitation comes in. For men that were in that position.

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Speaker 5: It's like you have to change their way of thinking the things that they're accustomed to, they're used to because it's a whole different life now. It's not the same lifestyle that you have before. The money is not fast, it's not coming in as much as quick as you thought it was. This is more of work, This is more of a process. This is more of time. And you know, you you're on the streets. Everything is right now. It's just like instant like instantaneous. I need this money now.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me let me play a Republican advocate, so Devil's advocate. Yeah, see the face. What if I'm a tax paying citizen, My taxes are now going to have to pay for someone that was destroying the community to be rehabilitated, and now I have to take care of the person that was harming this neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Well, we know.

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Speaker 5: The taxes is a fucking joke. I was just talking to somebody the other day. I saw cops like, I'm telling you, I'm doing this thing that way. I just watch cops now, now, okay, it's so much in taxes. I just watched police. I'm like, so they standing by the by the subway on their phone.

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Speaker 3: They always do the same with the leg up posts. They just they just don't even pretend to look like they're working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in the car.

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Speaker 3: I just yelled out, I said, do something.

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Speaker 4: What if they arrested your asses?

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Speaker 5: Okay, they're yelling do something, like yo, do something, And they looked at me like so my whole life like it was wrong. I'm like, I'm like, bro, taxpayers are paying their salary. Yeah, they're literally standing on the corner not doing anything, and they're on the clock.

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Speaker 2: They're getting paid.

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Speaker 3: Now, you understand our white Karen outbursts.

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Speaker 5: No, no, I just a lot of it. Listen a lot of the times. Now I understand it. I totally understand. It's like when you when you work hard and you are living in a certain neighborhood, you move your family to a certain neighborhood and you're paying all this money and taxes and you know, things like that mortgages and all of that. You do want your neighborhood to be to a certain standard, Like you don't want the person that lives across from you.

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Speaker 3: To have shit all in there in their yard and on their lawn.

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Speaker 2: And shit like that. You like, like, bro, what is y'all doing?

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Speaker 5: Like you don't want that, Like you don't want somebody selling dope right next to you. It's like, you know, I don't care, Like I'm from this the hood, And I understand that. When you're in it, it's like, yo, it's nothing you could do. You're in it, like you just got to navigate and and and and and kind of try to get out of it the best way, you know how. And I feel for people in that. But when you're able to get to a certain level where you're like Okay, I'm out of that environment. You don't want that shit seeping back into your into your space. You're like, bro, I bust my ass. I went to school, I did what I had to do. I save money, I slept on the fucking floor for years, stacked my bread to get to a certain.

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Speaker 2: Level, Like I don't want none of that shit around me no more.

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Speaker 5: Because a lot of the times in the hood, people when they say we don't have a way out, it's not that people don't have a way out. It's a lot of times people just are not shown the way out. Sure, so they just be like, yo, fuck it, I guess this is it. It's like, nah, this ain't it, Like you know, you gotta want That's why the ones that make it are the ones that want more for themselves than they actively go and pursue that, like there has to be a way out of this shit.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but that could even go to a deeper mentality of not owning anything in your neighborhood, Like, oh, for sure, it's a little different when you're paying rent. It's a very low income neighborhood. So the taxes that the city are even going to put in to keeping roads together, or even clean up shit that the city should do with your tax dollars isn't happening at all, or.

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Speaker 5: Taking tax dollars and putting opportunities into the hood.

00:24:14
Speaker 3: Because when you're in more like middle class or affluent neighborhoods, for the most part, everyone owns their house, so you're kind of all in it together because your property value is based off your neighbors as well and how things appear and how much it's taken care of. Even the school system, like you're all kind of on the same team, rather than someone that's living in a building that they're paying rent for their landlord's not doing the upkeep in the hallways because that's not the responsibility of they're paying rent and everything is just shitty, So it's like, why even take care of anything. It's not ours. The city's not taking care of what they own. Landlord is living in Long Islands, some fucking slumlord never comes, doesn't do shit. Everything is gonna look terrible.

00:24:54
Speaker 1: Systemic real estate and housing racism has just been the biggest cat for the discrepancy between I mean, just to put it lightly, blacks and whites in America, in any city, in any suburb. I mean it's you seldom see any black people own property, and then now we're seeing when they do own property, what they're willing to do to make sure that they have Like their homies barbershop gets of space. He can now make money on that property and make money on the business instead of just putting all the money from the business back into the property for something that he doesn't even own. And it's like, it's nice to see these things happen in pockets. But I mean, yeah, for fifty sixty some ideas, whatever the case may be. Shit, my parents couldn't get a home together in upstate New York for seven eight years because they were a mixed couple and my dad worked in real estate and they were just kept getting denied homes because they nobody wanted a mixed couple in the neighborhood.

00:25:48
Speaker 2: That's insane.

00:25:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens. No, it definitely has. Red liney.

00:25:53
Speaker 4: Redlining is still happening, like still happening when people go to purchase houses, when black people go to purchase houses, and it's it, it's crazy.

00:26:01
Speaker 5: I just see the thing that I don't understand a stand about that. Like in twenty twenty three.

00:26:06
Speaker 2: I think that.

00:26:07
Speaker 5: There's so many examples of just like information is so available to where it's like, how do you still have that mindset of like not lett want the interracial couple to live in your neighborhood.

00:26:22
Speaker 1: You know what it can lead to if you let someone into that neighborhood and then they eventually can purchase the home that gives them a black man and whoever with their family, the potential to grow generational wealth.

00:26:35
Speaker 3: The whole point of this is just to keep them down.

00:26:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's again I understand what you're saying, but it's it's still strange to me that people try to operate in that way because it's like we have we have so many examples of outstanding black men and women and interracial couples that are doing great things, like.

00:26:57
Speaker 4: How they're the good ones though they don't.

00:26:59
Speaker 5: Think that's that's crazy to me that people still operate like that. Like if you if you don't have information about certain things, then it's like, I can't be too mad at your ignorance because it's like, Okay, you just don't have the information on that. But there's plenty of information out here that shows that that mentality is wrong.

00:27:19
Speaker 3: But so many people are just raised in those households, so it's like in their makeup as they're growing up, it's embedded in them. Yeah. And then so many people don't live in diverse places. They only see people that look like them, so they're not even going to naturally seek out any information about anyone else. And we obviously know how the perception of black people is pushed to people that would not go research, and that's it's it's going to be Middle America that's only going to get this created perception of black people from whatever one news source they watch, or whatever conversation they see on Facebook. It's all one bubble, so they actually think they're informed.

00:27:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, conversations confirmation confirmation bias, like when you see something to support your beliefs, so what you already thought, and then like you see, oh a black man was convicted of rape. See I knew they were all rapists. They're gonna ignore every other good news story they hear about black people because of confirmation bias, because I believe that these people are villains or I believe that they are trying to take over our country that we already took over. This is what automatically when I see something that supports that, Ah, this is the proof that I needed.

00:28:26
Speaker 5: No Listen, we know that some people are just gonna be ignorant until the day they die. Like there's no there's no changing you know, you can't save everybody, you can't change everybody.

00:28:35
Speaker 2: We know that.

00:28:36
Speaker 5: But I just think that in twenty twenty three, with as how progressive the world is, it's just still so wild to me that it's still so many people that are just like operating on a dial up.

00:28:47
Speaker 3: Still it's like some people, of course, there's gonna be stuck in their ways forever, and that's just the world that we live in. They are also pro creating. That's also the issue. Like we know plenty of people. I even have family members that are sixty years old, stuck in their ways forever, no matter what the situation is. That's how they think. There's no changing them, and everyone's given up on trying to change them. Is what it is. They have children and they put that exact mind state from when the kid is fucking one years old into their brains, so that kid is now thinking that's law, Like that's just how they grow up. For the most part, you have similar ideologies to your parents. When it comes to anything racially, politically, etc. That does, for the most part, come from your parents. It may change now because there's the Internet, but that's scary too, because you'll have a kid that has good parents but will go on fucking Reddit and do a deep dive on QAnon and is already trying to revolt against their parents and now they're fucking shooting up schools in the name of Trump.

00:29:50
Speaker 5: But you know what, though, like, because there's been instances where we've seen like people do wild shit and it's like oldest person's with the and then you see their parents and you like, they came from like a.

00:30:08
Speaker 2: Good household.

00:30:10
Speaker 5: Parents seem to be you know, we don't know. Again, we don't know what goes on behind shops doors. But for the most part, parents have you know, a good head on their shoulders, They have good morals.

00:30:19
Speaker 2: They you know, made a.

00:30:22
Speaker 5: Good living, created a plethora of opportunities for their kids to succeed, and kids still find a way to And it's like, so when you say the parents are it's like, yeah, but it happens in instance where the parents aren't fucked up.

00:30:37
Speaker 3: It's both the nature and nurture.

00:30:39
Speaker 1: I mean that's I think they're equally affect how someone turns out. Yeah, Like, but think about it when when I when you're a kid and you're in school, and this clicked for me when I was like teacher, I see these kids more than their parents did during the week, Like they're here with me six hours whatever the case may be, like a full school's day, and then after school programs all those other things that come with that. So in essence, I am there, like in every adult that's in this building is there, there were really raising them to the extent of like who they become, how they should you know, think learn not just outside of learning academically, I just mean socially. It's like the nature part of it is a big aspect we've seen, and like unders underserved communities, the schooling system is trash, so they're not getting a good education, and then they're coming home to parents that more often than not in underserved communities are working more than one job, so they're running in and out of the house. Maybe there's not even someone to cook them food. You're like eating fast food, going to sleep. Mom's got like a night shift or dad's got a night shift. If both parents are around, like, it's just not stable, and that's what causes like where do I go? And now kids with the internet. At Tory's point, that's just a terrific place to turn to me.

00:31:51
Speaker 4: And the kids, the kids that they're around are affecting them as well. Because my parents raised me will all kinds of ideologies. But once I got in school and I'm a around these kids, I'm in school all day and then I'm in track or I'm in dance practice. I am with my peers all the time. So now whatever their parents taught them is now rubbing off on me.

00:32:09
Speaker 3: I just explained that of me picking on a kid, I didn't want to pick on because I was following what my peers were doing, Like that's embedded with you. And I had great parents, so I could only imagine the kid that doesn't have great parents, yeah, following his peers in that regard to Joant, can I ask you a question though, to the point you're making because you got your degree in teaching, right, like my master's in education. Yeah, so when in those courses, Because I agree, teachers definitely raise your kids to some degree. It's not just teaching math English. Whatever. Is that part of the course in training as a teacher or are they teaching you just how to teach the lesson plan? Are they teaching you how to socially teach children? Yeah, and I think that's something. Of course, there's gotdance counselors and that's their job. But to your point, yeah, they spend so much time with their teachers, there should be some social training when it comes to kids as well, not just hey, this is how you teach a long division. I'm really good at teaching kids long division.

00:33:09
Speaker 1: I had a non traditional route to teaching because I did teach for America this program where I would say the training was more intense than the actual program itself. But I don't want to knock like a proper programmer degree in education because I'm sure that it's more thorough than the process I went through because I was getting my Masters while I was teaching, so it was like, I'm learning this shit as I'm doing it, and it's like, that's not fair to the kid. But I was like, I would just use former experience. I was a cam counselor. I have a couple of nephews and a niece that were around the age of the students. I tost so like I was able to employ those.

00:33:46
Speaker 3: Type of skills with them.

00:33:47
Speaker 1: Socially, I was way more concerned about the like relearning how to teach a kid how to use a comma and like semi calls and shit.

00:33:55
Speaker 3: I might say, a condom, you should teach kids how to use them, though you should not. That's what health classes.

00:34:01
Speaker 2: You know what happened to health class? You know how many kids got pregnant?

00:34:06
Speaker 3: What's funny? He on the already walking to their first health class? Like that fucked me up.

00:34:13
Speaker 5: The first time I saw a girl pregnant in high school fucked me up like that, I'm talking my full stomach fucked me up.

00:34:19
Speaker 2: I looked at her like she's pregnant?

00:34:21
Speaker 4: How old?

00:34:21
Speaker 7: Real?

00:34:22
Speaker 4: Because when I was I was thirteen. Yeah, when I was a sixth grade I want to say.

00:34:26
Speaker 2: Had they had a nursery in my school?

00:34:28
Speaker 3: Saying my high school one? That was crazy to me?

00:34:31
Speaker 5: I was like yo, what like like oh so y'all fucking fucking like yeah, I got kid like that was crazy, Like we don't we don't think about that enough? Like I'm a thirteen year old kid. I went to for the most part. Growing up, I went to private school, so my schools were a lot smaller, which means, you know how there's doing just more attention to detail with the kids. You get more a personal relationships teachers because classes are smaller. So my freshman year, it was the first time I ever went to a public school.

00:35:00
Speaker 3: And this is in the Bronx.

00:35:01
Speaker 5: This is like Clinton High School in the Bronx, like big ass fucking school. Beautiful school though, Like the architecture was nice, like beautiful school, but that was like a culture shock to me to see like four thousand kids inside of like going walking inside.

00:35:14
Speaker 3: Of one building. Yeah, I was like, what the fuck.

00:35:17
Speaker 5: Then it's kids from all different sides of the burrow that you don't even fuck it.

00:35:20
Speaker 3: So we're all in the same building.

00:35:22
Speaker 5: And now you're talking about kids that probably never had sex yet, like much of freshmans probably never had sex. You're putting them in a building with girls that are pregnant, like and then she's pregnant by this kid that has class with you. Like, that's a lot to kind of like navigate with because you probably didn't even have that conversation at home yet.

00:35:41
Speaker 2: Really, at thirteen fourteen years old.

00:35:43
Speaker 4: Did your parents give you guys birds and the beast talk?

00:35:46
Speaker 3: No birds in the beat? Hell? Nah, I just watched at the time that conversation could have had birds. Did you get one, Julian.

00:35:54
Speaker 4: Like you have like a healthy household?

00:35:56
Speaker 7: Uh.

00:35:56
Speaker 1: My parents are always open. It wasn't like we have to sit you down and do something serious. They were always just like if stuff came up, we just talk about it. But I don't remember that being like one definitive conversation or moment.

00:36:08
Speaker 5: I think my mom just knew when I was having sex. I think she kind of just knew, like because we had such a relationship, like we didn't necessarily talk about it, but she could start.

00:36:17
Speaker 2: Seeing, like where you going.

00:36:20
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, I'm gonna go see she were about to go see a girl. We're going, like, all right, just make sure you're back at a certain time. If I had a girl that come to the house, like I couldn't close the door until I was probably like sixteen seventeen, like you know, shit like that.

00:36:33
Speaker 2: But my mom's knew when I was fucking.

00:36:35
Speaker 4: Like wow, I can't even imagine that something like that. Wow. But having somebody over period and different for.

00:36:43
Speaker 2: The door I think it's different for boy.

00:36:45
Speaker 1: I was also like kind of a square. I didn't I mean that's actually went to college. Like I didn't do anything.

00:36:50
Speaker 3: You just held your first gun two weeks ago though, right, I'm gangang.

00:36:55
Speaker 2: Now that's how it starts. Now you gd I like to go back to the school with it. Now you're for drill. You're about to be a drill rapper.

00:37:09
Speaker 4: Wait, so the health class scare you?

00:37:10
Speaker 2: Guys scared the funk out of me.

00:37:13
Speaker 5: Well, the health class didn't scared me seeing pregnant girls walking through.

00:37:16
Speaker 3: They show you the birthing video. Who in health class? Yeah, we had the puberty movie in like fifth or sixth grade. Yeah, health class in high school. I think I don't know if I had health class in junior high. I think we just had gym.

00:37:30
Speaker 4: I had I had health class. I had health class in junior high. But it wasn't sex a health to was sex ad and we got that in tenth grade when we were around fifteen. But they showed once they showed pictures of like they started showing STI pictures. That shook a bit chup.

00:37:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, they show you all that shit. You started like, oh, I don't want that.

00:37:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, that shook me up for what was it waffle that fake that ship. I didn't have sex for a year. I didn't have sex for a year.

00:37:56
Speaker 3: When I said that lit, my virginity might have been worth the bumps yo ed and I don't know what, Julian, you could pull us up.

00:38:02
Speaker 2: What was the name of the kid? It was a movie about him.

00:38:05
Speaker 5: He was from the Bronx and they that was the movie they showed you when they told you don't don't sell drugs and he ended up.

00:38:10
Speaker 3: In a wheelchair? Fuck, I know exactly what was the name of that bro?

00:38:14
Speaker 5: That was the crazy thinking back, It wasn't that we were scared of like guns and shit like that. We was just like, yo, I ain't trying to end up in a wheel chair. That's what scarned the I remember that because I was like, Yo, he in a wheelchair.

00:38:26
Speaker 3: As a kid. I know exactly what you're talking about as a kid, Like.

00:38:29
Speaker 5: Being paralyzed in the wheelchair was the scary, like some of the scariest. It was like, forget all the shootouts told me was in like and all of that. That didn't that was kind of like whatever. The fact that he ended up in a wheelchair, and I remember that was the one, the one video they used to show us all the time. I was like, yo, I forgot the dude's name.

00:38:46
Speaker 3: Yo, you just saying something earlier. I guess I never realized the crazy age gap of fourteen and eighteen in those years and being in high school of you just saying freshmen going in with seeing people when you're like a fourteen year old boy going through puberty, damn, near the start peak of crazy puberty. And then you see an eighteen year old girl. There's a drastic difference there, because eighteen year old girls, some of them, can look like grown women, and fourteen year old boys look like children. And that four year gap of how so much your mind and your body changes and sex being introduced to your life, that's a crazy four year gap to put everyone in the same place. She's like, I remember getting off the bus my first day or second day of high school and just like, no, there's ditties everywhere. It's a coach of cities everywhere, and you're just already naturally horny as fuck, like not in a predatory way, but yeah, it's like figuring out what your sexual urges.

00:39:48
Speaker 5: Are now, see what you're saying, now, take that right, Like he's so imagine kids that are in high school now.

00:39:54
Speaker 3: I mean, like the way girls dress terrifying, and the way the chicks I'm talking about was intertal Next it was like, oh.

00:40:00
Speaker 2: My gosh, that's what I'm saying.

00:40:02
Speaker 3: I went to school.

00:40:02
Speaker 5: Girls had on baggy Tommy Yill figure jeans, big gap hoodies. Like it wasn't like now, it's like they went fashion over the school.

00:40:10
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, as a fourteen.

00:40:12
Speaker 5: Year old kid, if you're in class with a girl that's seventeen shaped like this girl is on Instagram, how does this kid focus in class as a fourteen year old kid going through fucking puberty?

00:40:23
Speaker 2: Like how this is like?

00:40:25
Speaker 5: You have girls on your fucking wall that look like this girl and it's like it's like that movie Weird Science, Like imagine the girl of your dreams walking in your classroom and you like, y'all expect me to focus in here.

00:40:37
Speaker 3: Y'all trying this to solve for X. When you're trying to hide a boner, you don't know how it got there. What I will fuckings terrifying twelve o'clock tuck.

00:40:45
Speaker 4: What I will say is. I know, we see like a lot of like these young girls who are like wearing the weaves now and stuff like that, but a lot of the like teenage girls I'm around, they look like teenage girls. We might say like, oh, they looked older than we did when we were younger, but when you look got a teenage girl, she still like looks like a teenage girl, if that makes sense. Cool.

00:41:05
Speaker 3: No, it's some teenage girls that don't look like teenage.

00:41:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, some, but I'm talking about the vast majority they look like they even with make they look like.

00:41:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no.

00:41:13
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is it's a lot of just aesthetically seventeen eighteen year girls, the way they dress, the way they make themselves up.

00:41:23
Speaker 2: Has she I remember we was in school. It was a girl.

00:41:24
Speaker 5: They used to come to school with a briefcase, and I would never was beautiful, like she never spoke to nobody, never talked to nobody. But just because the way she was carrying herself was so different aesthetically, it was kind of like, wow, like you wanted to know more about this girl, but then she never talked. But then it fucked everybody up. When after school this dude that's nineteen is picking up in the fucking Honda fucking Civic. You're like, oh, I see why she ain't talking to nobody. A boyfriend drops a fucking car, which was a big deal if you're thirteen fourteen years old in high school.

00:41:58
Speaker 4: They live in New York City.

00:41:59
Speaker 2: I understand. I'm saying.

00:42:00
Speaker 5: It's like, Oh, I get why she don't give us no conversation. A boyfriend has a fucking car he's picking up from school, which is weird.

00:42:06
Speaker 3: But I think the briefcase is weird to begin with.

00:42:09
Speaker 5: But but again, that was just how she wanted to be different.

00:42:13
Speaker 3: I used to do that a briefcase to school school. It was like my grandfather is old.

00:42:17
Speaker 1: My grandfather was waiting as a teacher as a student when I was not in high school.

00:42:22
Speaker 3: When I was in college, I would use it. It's when I taught out.

00:42:26
Speaker 5: But if you was in high school walking the class with a briefcase, I know they fucking you up every day.

00:42:30
Speaker 3: And roly backpack. I definitely didn't. You had backpack.

00:42:36
Speaker 4: You probably had like the messenger we had the back when I was I definitely had a messenger back.

00:42:40
Speaker 2: Julie Ever rode on the back of a bus, Julian or I.

00:42:43
Speaker 3: Mean, ed you ever rode on the back of a city bus?

00:42:46
Speaker 8: No, I was always too pussy, Like hold on the back of the.

00:42:49
Speaker 3: I thought about it a few signs, but I backed up.

00:42:52
Speaker 4: Oh you mean like outside the bus, like.

00:42:54
Speaker 3: On the back of that was the thinking online. That was a thing, A thing.

00:42:58
Speaker 5: I haven't seen that he is, but that was a thing like in New York, like you on the back of the city bus because the bumper is kind of big, so you can stand on it and you just hold the fucking.

00:43:06
Speaker 4: Oh, y'all were living a danger.

00:43:08
Speaker 3: No, the wild ship was now they ride on top of the trains. Now the car the train kids used to go out that last door and hang on the back. We ain't do that.

00:43:19
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even do the bus.

00:43:20
Speaker 3: I'm looking at y'all, like, you.

00:43:21
Speaker 2: Know how long it took me to walk through the subway cars?

00:43:24
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean you pussy them?

00:43:25
Speaker 5: No, I mean I was not in high school yet, but I was like, I think eleven or twelve the first time I did that, And to me, that was the scary shitting world, Like you're walking through the fucking because you just think like anything could happened.

00:43:36
Speaker 3: When I'm walking, I could fucking fall and slip, Yeah.

00:43:39
Speaker 2: Like the train might shake. It's like you don't know.

00:43:42
Speaker 4: When I was in high school, we did stupid shit, Like we used to get on top of each other's cars and like drop because like my high school was on a really big hill and like usually a lot of kids would like walk down. Everybody walked out the same time and all walk down the hill, and the people who had cars, we would like get on the roof of their cars and like they would really drive really fast down the hill. We did stupid shit.

00:44:00
Speaker 3: Do any dumb shit?

00:44:00
Speaker 4: Like we did stupid shit like that, but I played video game?

00:44:03
Speaker 3: What is that?

00:44:05
Speaker 2: The dumbest shit we did and I understand as an.

00:44:06
Speaker 3: Adult now is sitting on people's cars. What it was parked on the block. That's dangerous, that's so annoying.

00:44:13
Speaker 2: Like I can understan as an adult, I can understand now, like.

00:44:16
Speaker 5: Why are you if you come out of your house and it's the kids on the block are sitting on your car playing spades, eating Chinese food? All kind of shit we used to do in people calls, like I can as an adult now, I understand, Like yo, I see why some people hated kids growing up.

00:44:35
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it now.

00:44:36
Speaker 4: I get it now.

00:44:37
Speaker 2: I try to understand it. I understand it.

00:44:39
Speaker 5: Just imagine you go outside right now and this kids sitting on the hood.

00:44:43
Speaker 3: Of your car. Like most people do their travel by rush hour, Like you don't do the morning evening type shit. I two pm to three thirty four. I don't go outside. Especially in Jersey City, all those fucking kids outside almost annoying, obnoxious assholes. Streets are flooded with menaces. It's crazy.

00:45:05
Speaker 5: It's crazy how that ship like it changes, Like you was that kid at one point and then now like you're an adult and you're like, when you walk up someone, it's a bunch of high schoolkid.

00:45:14
Speaker 2: You like, let me get the fuck out of here.

00:45:15
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I crossed the street immediately.

00:45:17
Speaker 1: They're so annoying and they just like they don't there's no spatial awareness.

00:45:22
Speaker 3: They just eat up the whole block.

00:45:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, bring back six feet apart, bring that I want that move. We need to bring that back.

00:45:28
Speaker 4: Kids ages from like eight to like sixteen are like awful people. They're awful. Preteen kids are They're awful human being.

00:45:36
Speaker 3: Yo. So much shit we used to do this, dude, mister Scott that was at the end of the block. We used to fucking grass and like Sudy just do so much fucked up stuff to that guy's house because he always reacted, and like I think back, I still see him, like when I go to my mom's every now and then. He's older now, but when he is outside a few times I cross the street because I'm so ashamed of how much I harassed that guy's house for no reason when we were kids, like and it was our favorite thing and he was hilarious. We did everything to that guy's house. We even put rocks in snowballs and ended up breaking windows before.

00:46:13
Speaker 4: Oh y'all, did y'all ask what that's bad?

00:46:17
Speaker 3: Though? I know, but like now I can't even look at him in the face and he's still like, is the nicest guy.

00:46:22
Speaker 5: I remember the time we found out the neighbor in my building he had one leg longer than.

00:46:27
Speaker 3: The other, Like was it was it a fake leg or was no?

00:46:30
Speaker 5: It was like a he had he would put he would put he would no. It was like it was like it was like a disability like he had it was like a baby leg.

00:46:37
Speaker 2: One leg was like really little.

00:46:38
Speaker 3: Did you call him Biggie Smalls?

00:46:41
Speaker 2: Though we didn't call him. But it's funny because I remember.

00:46:47
Speaker 5: I remember as a kid being scared of him naturally, like a guy comes out of your fucking building.

00:46:52
Speaker 2: He has one little leg, one little.

00:46:54
Speaker 5: And then it's like sometimes he wouldn't put the prosthetic piece on, so when he had the prosthetic piece on, it was just like a him.

00:47:00
Speaker 2: But sometimes he would come out.

00:47:02
Speaker 3: He's like a wopply table.

00:47:03
Speaker 5: He was straight get on like just me hopping on my legs. So it was like and this calf was I remember his.

00:47:08
Speaker 2: Cat the first time I saw him was short.

00:47:09
Speaker 5: This calf muscle was the biggest ship because he was that was the you know, the one normal leg he had, so we were scared of him. So I remember when we first started like like having conversations with him, like like kicking because he spoke Spanish.

00:47:22
Speaker 2: I think he was Cuban. I think he was a Cuban Cuban guy.

00:47:25
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Castra blew his leg off, and you assholes are.

00:47:28
Speaker 2: No So I'm like, you know, as kids, you just see like.

00:47:31
Speaker 3: What the Jacavera just chopped that shit over. But you know it's kids again. You see shit like that and you're just scared, like what the fuck? Like it's a disability, Like yo, get this guy because the.

00:47:38
Speaker 2: Creepy guy in the building.

00:47:40
Speaker 5: So I remember one time, probably like sixteen seventeen, I saw one of my homeboys talking to him.

00:47:47
Speaker 2: So I'm like, like, yo, when you got cool with you?

00:47:49
Speaker 3: Know what I mean? Like he was, No, you used the name?

00:47:52
Speaker 2: What names you we used to call him? Damn what we used to call him?

00:47:59
Speaker 3: That's nubs?

00:48:00
Speaker 2: No, I forgot the name we used to call him.

00:48:03
Speaker 3: But I asked him. I said, your wife, I said, Kevin Morgan said when you.

00:48:06
Speaker 2: Start kicking with him?

00:48:08
Speaker 3: Of course you said that. Come to find come to find out you called him what.

00:48:13
Speaker 4: He said when you start kicking it with him? Rory's childish? He mos said it.

00:48:18
Speaker 3: I didn't say it.

00:48:19
Speaker 2: No, I.

00:48:21
Speaker 4: Wasn't there.

00:48:22
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't born. I wasn't trying to say it like that. But come to find out, this dude was the major coke connect.

00:48:30
Speaker 2: Yeah that's why he lost. No, but I'm talking about like, yo, Yo, this story is the crazy shit ever.

00:48:37
Speaker 5: Like because I was asking my whole sit you you start because he came out of his apartment.

00:48:42
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm like, what you was doing? He was like, yo, he the plug.

00:48:47
Speaker 2: I was like, no way.

00:48:49
Speaker 5: He was like dog, I'm telling you, man, he's like, yo, he's the plug. And every time I see paid him full not LOUI exactly.

00:48:56
Speaker 2: That's why I laugh. I'm like, that's real, ship, that's how it happened.

00:49:00
Speaker 5: You in the building, living in the building. Somebody you don't speak to them because you know, just like, oh you guys one leg like I'm staying away from stupid reason, but whatever, this is the fucking dude that could have got you out the hood.

00:49:12
Speaker 4: I should appear used cocaine.

00:49:14
Speaker 5: And I'm telling you it's the crazy because I'm like, damn, Like now, granted, I'm.

00:49:18
Speaker 2: Glad I didn't know that. As a kid, I didn't need to know that, But as you get older, it's crazy. You're yo, we used to be scared of this dude.

00:49:24
Speaker 5: Now it's like we see him, like, Yo, what's good, what's going on up? And he's cool as shiit coolest keep a bunch of fucking pretty girls in his apartment. First time I went his apartment, his apartment was I'm talking about my mom's had a nice apartment. His apartment was insane, like the ship he had, bro But you would never know because we're so busy being scared of this dude, to making fun of him.

00:49:47
Speaker 2: Because he got one leg. And it's like, this is you could have went down crazy money path of.

00:49:52
Speaker 3: Destruction as a drug dealer.

00:49:55
Speaker 2: I should I should have kicked it. I should have learned Spanish earlier, man, I should have just you know what I mean.

00:49:59
Speaker 4: I think about stuff like that, like when, because now when I go home and visit, you know, my parents, there's all these new kids that their families just moved in or whatever, and they're young, like how we used to be young outside running around, and I'm thinking about, like, you know, when I was a kid, all the things I thought about my adult neighbors, like the fucked up nicknames we had for them, the ship we used to pick on them about. And I'm like, damn, I wonder what these kids like are thinking of like me now that I'm like the old adult telling them to get their ship off my lawn and get keep your ball out the yard, don't touch my fucking dogs, get off my gate. Like I'm like, damn, they probably talking about me like.

00:50:30
Speaker 3: Yo, life tho us that's how it should go.

00:50:33
Speaker 7: Yo.

00:50:33
Speaker 3: What was you're mister Scott now random mess though?

00:50:36
Speaker 7: What? Why was? Why was?

00:50:37
Speaker 2: Why was t I mad at new now?

00:50:38
Speaker 3: And ato?

00:50:41
Speaker 4: Me and Roy just watched this movie?

00:50:44
Speaker 3: And what and what did I say? When she pulled up in at BMW and they was all arranged on his porch? I said, what is he I so mad about? I swear to yo, I'm really really just said that, literally, like to know. I was like, all right, I get it. You were like to to some degree cool. You knew his chick a week? This is mad forgivable cool cool? Never for longer he knew her for longer.

00:51:08
Speaker 4: He just died.

00:51:10
Speaker 5: This nigga was heated. He snatched his chain back. She pulled up in the BMW. She living a night?

00:51:16
Speaker 2: What was he mad?

00:51:17
Speaker 4: Because he was poor? He felt like a fool because he was poor, So he did he bought her that necklace really splurs on his necklace. His friend's like, yo, that ship fake as fuck. And then knowing that this girl is like coming from a diamond family, like she probably.

00:51:30
Speaker 5: You know that to me, okay, but to me that even shows how how much she really liked the nigga because it's like, I could really buy this if I wanted to myself, but you bought it for me.

00:51:40
Speaker 3: I like it because I like you.

00:51:41
Speaker 2: I'm appreciative, but it's like what you really mad at?

00:51:44
Speaker 3: Though? The whole dynamic of this scene in general, what's what's t man's name is best friend? The one that's smart I forgot fuck? But I know he's with his friend, the one that worked at the golf course. Yeah, yes, first of all, that's how I know that's Squire. That's how I know they wasn't really friends, not y T.

00:52:00
Speaker 2: I was mad.

00:52:02
Speaker 3: But if I go to a crib and I walk in and your girl lives there, I'm hitting you on me, like, bro, your girl is in this mansion right now.

00:52:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I know she told him. She told Esquire. She was like, I'm gonna tell you, my daddy who you really are?

00:52:18
Speaker 3: Him? Who I really And that's the other part that I want to say, makes no sense. Why was this guy so upset that Esquire was from the hood. I don't.

00:52:26
Speaker 2: I just thought and he was from the tha. Now this is a classic movie, classic movie.

00:52:31
Speaker 3: We love this movie.

00:52:33
Speaker 5: It's just as far as I look at and I'm just like, as a writer, I just don't know how I write that, Like he's upset that, Like I think. I think At would have been such a better movie if t I would have been like, yo, you from over there, you're dropping a big yo, like it's lit.

00:52:51
Speaker 4: Now, let's rob your dad.

00:52:52
Speaker 3: Let's do the takers all that, Let's rob your dad something like hold on, while we're having this atl conversation, I have to get my I'll be on the phone. Who played Brooklyn and the ato Ali were talking that it's one of our favorite movies ever. But I gotta ask, when you read that script, did you think to yourself, why is t I so mad that this girl is rich? It's a class It's one of our favorite movies ever. It's a staple in the culture. But that one scene when y'all are just sitting on the porch like holding your man's down and she shows up in the beamer, why was he in that?

00:53:34
Speaker 7: Well? First of all, I just want to say, what's up?

00:53:37
Speaker 3: Mom?

00:53:37
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, what's up? What's up? Everybody? Rory usually does this.

00:53:44
Speaker 9: He calls me and then he just goes right into a question there's no I don't know if you guys noticed about Rory, but you know, but that's him, that's my guy. Yeah so, uh, I think it's the line, and I think we gotta we got it. It was something that we could address that, you know, when somebody's being when somebody isn't being real with you. Even if you could get past that that initial first line, you'll you'll wonder if they're always lying to you.

00:54:15
Speaker 3: I mean, he knew that girl for a week. I feel like that was kind of forgivable.

00:54:19
Speaker 7: Yeah.

00:54:20
Speaker 9: Yeah, but we also but also if you see, the character had lost a mom and a dad at the same time.

00:54:26
Speaker 7: Yeah, so, and some people that have fathers something, some people that have mothers and fathers at the same time.

00:54:34
Speaker 9: They believe, they believe in love at first sec they believe in in longevity and in marriage.

00:54:39
Speaker 7: They believe that that person I could have this is mine one. You know what I'm saying, you my friend with your body count maybe you.

00:54:52
Speaker 3: Switching gears? Was your arm actually broken? All being a Bronx representative, he said this. I didn't say this. He said, it's crazy that you let someone Brooklyn, but you're from the Bronx Mall said that, well.

00:55:05
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, well, first of all, you said, Mall, being a Bronx representative, I need you to put the every time you say of course, right, So it's it's the Bronx because it's not the Manhattan or the Queens. But I think, no, it's Oh. I got a little pot moment. My my, My, my name wasn't Brooklyn. My name was Patches.

00:55:30
Speaker 7: Yeah. I was like, what the what is that? Right?

00:55:32
Speaker 9: And for some reason they thought that was cool and and he was like a poet, He's like his Patches in Apache.

00:55:38
Speaker 7: And I was like, nah, like Brooklyn can be.

00:55:42
Speaker 9: If you in any place in the world and go where Brooklyn at somebody there, you'll.

00:55:47
Speaker 7: Say, whoa, you know what became.

00:55:50
Speaker 9: So when you go to another city, no one's gonna say, yo, that's my man Bronx. They'll be like, yo, that's my man Brooklyn from Brooklyn. And you know, but I thought that I deal was dope.

00:56:00
Speaker 7: And then the name tag.

00:56:02
Speaker 9: If you watch at the end of it, the name tag, I put my last name being Bridges.

00:56:08
Speaker 3: Oh the job.

00:56:10
Speaker 7: Yeah, so my name is my name is officially Brooklyn Bridges.

00:56:14
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

00:56:15
Speaker 9: And I couldn't do that. I couldn't do that with the Bronx. It would be like the Bronx Jakobe Hospital or something like that. I don't know, it would be the Bronx.

00:56:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever somebody from the Bronx move out of town, they just call us New York.

00:56:25
Speaker 3: And I mean, what's so funny, right, how ahead of the time it was with that character because we see now how many New York transplants are in Atlanta, Like that's a whole thing now. Yeah, So it was crazy that that that that character kind of represented exactly what was about to happen in the next decade in Atlanta. Everyone I know from New York moved down to Atlanta.

00:56:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're welcome. I feel like.

00:56:57
Speaker 9: I've done I've done that with the Graduation album. I've done that with this last Donda album.

00:57:01
Speaker 7: I've done that.

00:57:02
Speaker 9: Like I mean, I'm a part of like these classic and great moments because I stepped behind, I step aside and go it's not about the Bronx, you know, It's about what can resonate when someone calls it out the window. So we name our children based off of like the window of Tupacing Juice where he goes Yo, cute, like could you could you call yo moll Now he has a good call name outside the window, So Brooklyn, that made way more sense than the Bronx or b X or.

00:57:36
Speaker 3: I'll the Bronx that would be terrified. But yeah, we appreciate you for real. We look forward to a t O U two. Also, you know you and I have talked off Mike a bunch of times. Definitely need you to come up here one day and like really can't do a proper episode. You know, you and I have talked about a lot of ship that I think world needs to hear. So I appreciate you and we'll talk next time you're in New York.

00:58:05
Speaker 7: Yeah, you got to you know VOTAW four.

00:58:15
Speaker 2: If my girl lived in a neighborhood like she was coming from, had to BMW. Okay, yeah she lied. She didn't tell me her dad had money. We understand that.

00:58:24
Speaker 4: But it had everything to do with how he felt about himself. He was poor and that incurity. He hated being poor. Andrea care about it. But but you I get what you're saying. But insecurities come from within. Nobody else can make you insecure. She insecurities come from within. He was always gonna feel that way. And it's so funny that you were just talking about people who grew up in nice homes and they like seek out this struggle, especially like a lot of times black people, a lot of people I went to like school with, because like they had both parents and they were raised well, but they wanted to like get into gangshit and stuff like that. And I think a lot of it is because when you are in certain when you have a social a certain socio economic status, and you're around certain people, a lot of those people are white people, and you don't feel like you fit in right, So like now you go searching for like like, yes, I have money and all of this, I'm rich, but I'm still black, and I'm now surrounded by a bunch of white people. My parents have all white friends, so yeah, we have the same status when it comes to money, but these people don't relate to me culturally. So you go out and seek that that kind of connection, and sometimes it gets you around some people you don't have no business being around, and get you and shit, you don't have no business.

00:59:34
Speaker 3: I want to see like the I think what's it called the prelude or whatever. When they do the movie before, Like how did NEWNW get over there? Like how did she meet all these people?

00:59:46
Speaker 2: She went to the school, didn't she?

00:59:47
Speaker 3: No, no school with them, only only Tay went to that school.

00:59:50
Speaker 4: No, No, she didn't go to school with them. Tay went to that school. Sit tayble to whooped her ass? She go to that school? You sure a positive? We just watched it.

01:00:01
Speaker 3: And they literally say in the dinner, like she don't go to school.

01:00:05
Speaker 4: That's like how, Like, I don't even she didn't even go to their school.

01:00:08
Speaker 2: Oh I thought the twins went to the school.

01:00:10
Speaker 4: No, I think, yeah, No, the twins didn't even go to that school.

01:00:14
Speaker 2: So they just was all in the same.

01:00:15
Speaker 4: It was all in kind of in different schools. I don't know how she became friends with the twins.

01:00:19
Speaker 5: You remember the first time you went to somebody house and you realize your house wasn't ship Yeah, yep, that she changed everything. You don't sleep, You don't never sleep the same after that. Like you go to one of your classmate's house with like you having a party or something. You're like, I'm about to go to his crib. You go to this like where you live here, like this.

01:00:37
Speaker 3: Is this is your house, like their basement actually has the installed carpet. Yeah, like it's not. It's not like a rug that in a fully functioning bathroom.

01:00:45
Speaker 2: It's it's insane.

01:00:46
Speaker 3: Damn. I mean I had plumbing her Yeah no, no, no, like finished.

01:00:52
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I saw a finish at the ouse. Our house is so funny, sh in the bucket. I remember the first time I sa I finished base, and I was just like, I remember, I was terrified of going in our base because it was like the cold concrete floor.

01:01:07
Speaker 3: It's always dark.

01:01:08
Speaker 2: He's one of those kids that saw homes creaky.

01:01:11
Speaker 3: That was.

01:01:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was pussy, So I just hated being down there. All we would do down our basement was laundry. Yeah, do it, run it, get up, come out. You don't, there's no reason to hang out, yo. I would go into Like the was when we started playing lacrosse. These fucking lacrosse kids.

01:01:26
Speaker 3: Going to going to the home and they lead like the the first move is to go to the basement.

01:01:31
Speaker 1: Like you you can go left and go into the main home, or take the right and go down to the basement.

01:01:39
Speaker 3: And that was like the ship control. Their the fucking flat screen on the wall surround so like apartment. Yeah, And I was like, the hell is this? I was sick.

01:01:48
Speaker 5: You go back home, you start picking it all like these walls is trash, This bathroom small as fuck.

01:01:54
Speaker 7: I had.

01:01:55
Speaker 4: I had a classmate. I did that.

01:02:00
Speaker 3: How are the more affluent friends you had growing up doing now?

01:02:04
Speaker 5: They're doing pretty h It's funny. It's something that's fucked up now that I think about it. I saw one of my friends that his mom had a really good job. They had a nice apartment in Queen's And I saw him recently.

01:02:17
Speaker 3: He looked bad.

01:02:18
Speaker 5: Life hit him, knocked the shit out of him. Yeah, I'm talking about look bad. That's when I start thinking that drugs is like in play not.

01:02:26
Speaker 2: Seriously all right. I was like I wasn't just because think about it.

01:02:29
Speaker 5: When you know, when you see like when you see homeless people, right, you don't think at one time, yo, this person was like in high school, this person probably was like really popular again Snowfall perfect example. It's people like that that are like homeless now on the streets that had a lot of money and was doing this and doing that, and a bunch of cars and extremely popular things happen life goes a different way.

01:02:53
Speaker 2: And then now you at an age where you start seeing people that you were in high school with. And he was like, yo, like saw homie on the train, like he was asking for me. I remember the first time I seen the dude.

01:03:04
Speaker 3: That you said, damn homie in high school. He was the man home. Not what the I tried.

01:03:09
Speaker 5: The first time I saw a dude that you have the sick. The first time I saw dude about begging for money, I was like, I didn't want him to see me, m m, because I didn't know how I was gonna you know what I'm saying, and.

01:03:25
Speaker 3: You don't want to tell him it could be worse.

01:03:28
Speaker 5: I don't know what I would have told him, honestly, because this is somebody that I know, not somebody that i've seen. I'm talking about, Yo, this is my I haven't seen him in like five years, but this is my this is my dude growing up. And you start seeing them just stinking and it's like, oh, man, I had a girl I was.

01:03:46
Speaker 4: Really cool with in high school, get on crack in twenty twenty two, Crack crack.

01:03:54
Speaker 3: She was an old soul twenty twenty, you know, getting getting He's an old soul the hipster move.

01:04:02
Speaker 2: Wait, where does she find she likes.

01:04:04
Speaker 3: Vinyl and correct?

01:04:05
Speaker 4: I have no idea. Like she was like hitting me up for like crack, twenty dollars on like a Tuesday for crack.

01:04:14
Speaker 3: Wait, she was an honest crackhead. She was like, can I have twenty dollars for that's for the rest found.

01:04:19
Speaker 4: Out through I found out through other channels that that what was going on. But if somebody paying for your cbody, if somebody asked you for twenty dollars, But.

01:04:30
Speaker 1: Like, the subject line is the subject The subject line is just a three needle of that.

01:04:34
Speaker 5: Is twenty twenty three in a nutshell, Yo, not homiees sell crack, But you could pay him on Vemo.

01:04:40
Speaker 3: What just make the subject line crack. Make sure you put reimbursements so he doesn't get taxed.

01:04:46
Speaker 2: He selling crack, andre you paying him? You selling him to twenty.

01:04:50
Speaker 3: That's why a kid's kids' perspectives are just weird in the environment that they're in. Because I had a friend my summer of my fresh year. I was at the park training because I was still running track, and my close friend from high school, Jamar, was one of the most talented fucking athletes I've ever met in my life just decided in high school he wanted to become a blood instead, didn't need to none of that shit. And he pulled up with his friend in the car when I was running, and he was like, damn man, happy for you. You know you made it out like, Bro, we're not, like, we're right, Like you didn't need to do this. What are you doing?

01:05:27
Speaker 7: Bro?

01:05:28
Speaker 3: This was fine, We're we're right now, Like you were even a better athlete, Like you didn't need to become a gang member. I don't know, you're not about to give me that fucking uh boys in the hood speech of like going to Georgetown.

01:05:40
Speaker 5: Bro, we was fine, Like you didn't need to become a blood where That's where I just think that that shit is just something that's in you. That's why I can't really blame parents, because growing up on the block that I grew up on, it was easy for me to get into certain shit, easy to get into a gang, easier for me to start selling drugs and doing wild shit.

01:05:58
Speaker 4: Yeah my Moti whip show.

01:06:00
Speaker 5: But not only that, it's it's just I never really wanted that, Like it was just never that was never something that was just in me to do that. Like I never wanted to be in a gang.

01:06:10
Speaker 3: All of my cousins are gang bangers, and my friends were in gangs and all that.

01:06:15
Speaker 2: Like, and I grew up on a block.

01:06:17
Speaker 5: Like I said, it's a bunch of Puerto Ricans Dominicans. I was one of the few blacks, like full black. I mean, my dad is half Puerto Rican, but I identify as a black man.

01:06:25
Speaker 3: I wasn't.

01:06:26
Speaker 5: I wasn't like the environment was everything was there for me to go the wrong way, But I never wanted that. I was just like, no, I don't don't want to be no gang. To me, honestly, that gang banging shit is corny to me because it's a bunch.

01:06:42
Speaker 2: Of older dudes manipulating young dudes to do dumb shit.

01:06:45
Speaker 4: But the young and they want to feel included, you know, how to feel a part of something.

01:06:50
Speaker 5: I understand it because a lot of the times you're coming from, you know, they know the type of kids that don't have no adult figures, fathers, uncles, brothers, whatever, you know, just.

01:07:02
Speaker 4: A family structure preer they don't have.

01:07:04
Speaker 5: They don't have that, so they recognize that and they I always had that, even if it wasn't directly in my home.

01:07:10
Speaker 3: I always had I had.

01:07:11
Speaker 5: I come from a large family, and it was just and even my family, like I said, my fam, I have family member was that's gang members. And I'm just like, how did you what made you want to get into that? Because for me, I don't understand it because I never that never crossed my mind to join a gang, just never crossed my mind.

01:07:29
Speaker 3: Well, also, you were in a different era in New York.

01:07:33
Speaker 2: I was in a crazy, wild era in New York.

01:07:36
Speaker 3: I know that. But I'm saying the gang shit is almost like trendy now it's so common where it wasn't for us. I mean around when I was in high school was when I think that the blood shit started to hit New York. But it's a it's a really common thing now. It wasn't a really common thing when you were growing up in New York.

01:07:56
Speaker 4: Our blessing crips like common now, I mean they in common, but I know.

01:08:01
Speaker 2: What he made.

01:08:02
Speaker 3: But it's an influx where like it's you really got to be it, like everybody is something now that was never a thing. Like there was clicks in gangs, but not blood cripshit. Yeah. Now it's like very very common that people that would never be gang members ever are now crips. And it's like with the crypt affiliated I'd like, like even my friend Jamar, who did not need to do that, at least he committed like he blooded out at that time. Now it's like you could just go be to Rowing sixty, Like you could.

01:08:33
Speaker 7: Just go be it.

01:08:34
Speaker 3: When I was in high school, and I'm not saying where the sixties actually are, but like I feel like in Atlanta, New York, like I've seen kids I know that are not like that.

01:08:43
Speaker 4: We drew up a lot of gang signs when I was in high school, like a lot of it. We thought it was the coolest shit in the world. I don't know why we thought that. Like I swear I was a crip when I was like fourteen fifteen, I.

01:08:55
Speaker 3: Was like mal I thought all that shit was dumb as hell.

01:08:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just never.

01:08:59
Speaker 3: I I just never sort of I guess the allure of it. I guess I just never.

01:09:05
Speaker 2: It just never struck me like my friends was my friends if they was gang bang cool, I'm not.

01:09:09
Speaker 3: That's the other thing.

01:09:10
Speaker 1: I had friends that were heavily involved and friends that asked me if I wanted to join her be in this shit, and I would politely be like, I'm okay, and they had no.

01:09:18
Speaker 3: Issue with that. This is this is one hundred, one hundred percent. They'd never made the true story. When I was like nineteen or something, my one of my closest friends, Jerome, that was that I grew up with. I hadn't seen a really long time since we were like kids, and we ran to each other like you know, reprotect people's good type ship. And we went out one night and he was like, Yo, I could bless you into this this cript ship, and I swear, I swear, I swear on everything I love let you in. He said, Actually, I could bless you in if like you want I'm good.

01:09:48
Speaker 2: Nah, I'm cool.

01:09:50
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to be Snow. I'm cool.

01:09:52
Speaker 2: Snow that was name, that was your gang name.

01:09:56
Speaker 3: No, there's there's Tuenser's Bluzz and Chris the Snow Ship.

01:09:59
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I thought you meant like your name in the gang with.

01:10:02
Speaker 3: No like the set probably Ginger Snow Snow call hey, snow Cone. Now you definitely would have been snow Cone. Definitely definitely would have been snow cone one hundred blue rass snow. Imagine being on America, so Yo, snow cone coming, run, run blizzard.

01:10:20
Speaker 5: Somebody gonn pull out money like it was snow blizzard. Might somebody cana pull thet money like the snow cone lady coming, Like you used to stand in front of the snow cone lady.

01:10:29
Speaker 2: And open your mouth.

01:10:30
Speaker 3: Hey yeah, yeah, what you know?

01:10:32
Speaker 2: You know when they scraping the ice, So kids used to stand in the front.

01:10:35
Speaker 3: No, that sounds like something that happened in the thirties.

01:10:38
Speaker 2: When did they scraped the thirties you never had a snow cone.

01:10:42
Speaker 3: I've never like had a woman scrape the ice like that. Now it's just they have the machines, no know, like you talked the thing. Yeah, they still have it, like like she.

01:10:51
Speaker 5: Used to stay in front of the car when she was doing it, like in the summers. Actually, did you do that raping the ice? It's like kids used to stand in the front and like, just.

01:10:58
Speaker 3: You know, did you do that? No? Yeah, yeah he did he definitely.

01:11:01
Speaker 5: I didn't really like snow comes. I like the other ones, the flavored icy better. I didn't really like snoke the be doglars. Yeah, I was more with that.

01:11:08
Speaker 2: I didn't never really like snow cones or should have been.

01:11:11
Speaker 4: Crypt speak of speaking of gangs. Okay, here, how do you feel about the influx of people pledging sororities of fraternities in their late twenties or early.

01:11:23
Speaker 3: Thirties, Like alumni chapters.

01:11:27
Speaker 4: They just decided to become part of chapter twenty eight years old?

01:11:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's an alumni chapter, like you can go join. There's people that like, I'm undergrad, I'm ro Alpha is my chapter, but I'm also Jersey City alumni. There's some people that are just Jersey City alumni. That's it. They pledged after college and just became that.

01:11:50
Speaker 4: Okay, how do you feel about that?

01:11:54
Speaker 3: I don't judge it because a lot of people wanted to, like, because that shit is illegal that there's a lot of things that happen. So I know a lot of people that pledged for six months and never got their letters because some illegal shit happened, or or just the college shut it down. So that was something they worked for and wanted to do, so once they graduated, they went and do that.

01:12:15
Speaker 4: Now I'm talking about people who didn't pledge and didn't even attempt to pledge in college and they are now twenty eight, twenty nine with children and they want to become.

01:12:23
Speaker 3: Are they actually pledging or are they just signing the paperwork and paying the juice. That's a drastic difference for those that don't know about Greek life, it is. It is very much split with people that I'm all pazing is illegal and no one pledges. I want to make that clear. But there is this like allure of storytelling that there's the group of people that pledged and that's who we fuck with, and then there's the people that are paper you have to pledge those shit does not count. So either way, which is it?

01:12:52
Speaker 4: Either either way?

01:12:53
Speaker 3: Just I think it's fucking nuts for people to be in their big age and go really pledge. I've seen it. I pledged allegedly with an alumni chapter for a few nights with somebody that was forty something. I'm like, bro, you got like a twenty year old yelling issue.

01:13:11
Speaker 2: No, that's mental that's a mental health issues.

01:13:13
Speaker 4: That's I'm sorry. I Greek people, Please don't kill me. I respect Greek life out of respect all of that pledging at fucking or at twenty eight twenty nine, thirty thirty one, thirty two years old is fucking insane.

01:13:29
Speaker 3: And I'm talking from an alleged standpoint because Capa Avasafraternity Incorporated is a non hazing organization. But oh, thank you, but that's the legal line. Yeah, that's teach you that when you're pledged, say this, that snow cone right there, that's okay, you're They definitely tell you all.

01:13:45
Speaker 7: I say this.

01:13:46
Speaker 2: If they ask you, you say this.

01:13:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, hazing is only something you put on donuts. Yeah, I get it.

01:13:51
Speaker 4: I don't know that's it. I don't know.

01:13:52
Speaker 3: I didn't come up with that bar to make that clear.

01:13:54
Speaker 2: I get it.

01:13:55
Speaker 3: Did you have a safe word? Snow Cone's snow cone? But I don't know if people want to do that and they're late saying, they may be trying to fill a gap somewhere. It's just so many different circumstances. I've seen where people worked so hard when they were undergrads and never achieved becoming a member because of things that were out of their control. So when they go do it when they're older, I respect it, like I get it. It didn't happen for you and it should have. So here you go Nah, nah, I'm not with it should have if it didn't happen, It just didn't happen, not that it should have like we mean it should have. Like, well, there's plenty of things that you work really hard for and don't get It doesn't mean you should just completely give up on it if it's something that you really want.

01:14:39
Speaker 5: Okay, what I think on the list of things you should give up on is pledging to a fraternity or sorority in your forty somethings.

01:14:46
Speaker 3: I mean, if they find value within it, like.

01:14:48
Speaker 2: Just go home, watch school Days on repeat.

01:14:50
Speaker 3: And just but the Divine nine is much different than like other just regular frats. I won't even just say white frats are just frats and stories. Period. It's a very much a lifelong thing. So someone even starting in their late twenties, it's early if they're going to live till they're seventy eighty years old. The lifelong thing.

01:15:10
Speaker 2: What made you want to go to college? Like, what was the thing that made you want to go?

01:15:13
Speaker 3: My mom made me though I didn't really want to go to college and I didn't think I was going to go. Then Saint Peter sent me a track scholarship offer, and my mom was like, yeah, this is where that's what you're doing. So I said, yeah, that was it.

01:15:28
Speaker 2: I think when I first saw that movie High Learning, that made me want to go to.

01:15:33
Speaker 4: College in Tyre die in a movie.

01:15:35
Speaker 3: Wait did you go to college? Okay, so it wasn't that good of a movie.

01:15:38
Speaker 7: It was a great movie.

01:15:39
Speaker 4: I think I saw that company.

01:15:41
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to think, like the college movies I watched.

01:15:44
Speaker 2: I regret not going to college. I regret that just for the social experience.

01:15:50
Speaker 3: I regret not going well. I don't know if I want to say I regret because I think my life would have been drastically different. But I regret not going to like a real college, like to a college with a campus, and like in a different state, like in the South. There's somewhere else, I had tweeted. I don't know if I would have even like went to class. I tweeted a couple of weeks ago, I was like, Yo, what's too late to go to college?

01:16:17
Speaker 8: Like?

01:16:17
Speaker 3: How old is too late to go to college? I don't think that that exists. It's never never too old for eyesight, so let me let me but you could be too old for things.

01:16:29
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, if you're trying to join a sorority at SETS, or for fraternity at twenty nine, thirty thirty one years old, you're.

01:16:34
Speaker 3: Paying for yeah, student life and higher education or too. Why do people view fraternitys and sororities as paying for friends? I do find that very odd.

01:16:42
Speaker 7: I don't.

01:16:43
Speaker 5: I don't view it as paying for friends, but I definitely view it as people that probably were not accepted in certain circles and they feel like this this allows them to be accepted into those circles.

01:16:54
Speaker 3: I think there's absolutely cases where that is a thing. But you would be so surprised how that is so uncommon when it comes to that type of stuff.

01:17:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

01:17:03
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, the coolest shit that I loved once I crossed was I had all my friends kicking it with all the kappas.

01:17:09
Speaker 4: We was all like it was cool.

01:17:11
Speaker 3: Like it's just people that are like minded and have the same goals interests want a better network of like minded people. Yeah, you go do that. That doesn't mean you're looking for friends. Like, what's what's funny is I don't hang out. I hang out with my friends more than I hang out with quote unquote cappas like it's not like I even even when I crossed, it was like, of course I was with my LB's and was running around Jersey Long Island, the city Delaware, everywhere, because it was fun to be able to know that I could hit the turnpike and I could make one text and go to Dell State and be good for the weekend with the snoops down there. But I was bringing my non Greek friends like Yo Roll with me to del State homecoming. But it was it was never like a which I was chasing younger. What we were chasing achievement, may achievement in every field of human She's I know what was going on in numb campuses.

01:18:02
Speaker 5: That's why I used to always call my system when she went to Virginia State and I'm coming down there next week.

01:18:06
Speaker 2: But if you know your Jay State, she was let Oh my god, I was down there so much. They thought I went to school there. I'm telling you, they really thought I went to class.

01:18:12
Speaker 3: And it's not even so much like just within your fraternity authority. Like when I was interning at Death Jam, there was a Q, there was an AKA, there was a delta in that building on they looked out for me like you would not fucking believe Dana. You know Dana, Yeah, Dana's.

01:18:30
Speaker 2: AKA, shouted Dan. She's at Netflix now.

01:18:34
Speaker 3: Dana was AKA. I was interning for the person that ended up leaving, and Dana took her job. And when I say, Dana came in and even though I was fucking nineteen and like just a child, the fact that she was an aka and I was a Kappa, we had an immediate common ground on certain things and she was like, yo, just be my intern and helped me out like you would not believe. Same thing with the Deltas on there, same thing with the Cues, like we look out for each other in that regard, like that whole there is fraternity beef like an undergrad, but like not real ship. When I see anyone in the Divine nine down to iotas, I will always look out for anybody within that circle. And it's not because I want to even be their front. I may not even want to talk to them, but we have something that's unspoken that I will always look out for you no matter what. I don't want your friendship. I'm cool, don't talk to me. I'd like the n y PD yes, that's true. I don't mean to backtrack, but I did want to pose a question to an earlier conversation we were having about high school and puberty. Mm hm, And I'm here to fight for men's rights, well, boys rights? Pause? What that's I feel like fighting for boys rights might be a pause somewhere. Why it felt a little pausish. Yeah, wow, predatory sounds priesty, Come on, don't I didn't say altered boy rights. Yeah, and as an altar boy, we didn't have any rights if we just ranging the bell. I went crazy with that bill, your bill.

01:20:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's up.

01:20:12
Speaker 3: It's okay when boys are sexually abusing, that's it's fun, which goes into my next point of I feel like in high school and puberty is happening, only women's puberty is respected. If a girl has a period in class, she can quietly go to the teacher and say something and they will stop and make sure everything is okay. If I have this boner that I don't even know how I got and it's all new to me, I can't go up to my teacher and go, hey, like I have I have like a raging boner right now, and I don't know like I can't right on the jap board. I mean I would be I'd be suspended. Yeah. Probably. How often did you have raging boners in high school?

01:20:54
Speaker 4: A lot?

01:20:54
Speaker 3: Every day?

01:20:55
Speaker 2: What are you talking?

01:20:55
Speaker 4: What I'm just asking?

01:20:58
Speaker 3: High school?

01:20:59
Speaker 2: You guys weren't like a raging boner every day raging.

01:21:02
Speaker 1: Around the course of the school day was like six Yes, you would probably you had a boner as a fourteen, fifteen year old boy, for sure.

01:21:08
Speaker 3: God, I went to high school in the era of baggy clothes, Thank fucking god. No, at least my shirt covered. No, that's fine, But it's the related enfranchise boy. It's the round that's like throw a raging, a raging boner. Yeah, you could have, like the blood could be flowing and you get a little roused, a raging We're gonna throw a little hyperbole in it. It's a podcast.

01:21:30
Speaker 2: No raging, but it was like it was raging, a raging boner.

01:21:37
Speaker 3: Yes, but the blood flow was crazy.

01:21:39
Speaker 5: No, yeah, yes, I identify, I understand, and you're absolutely right, Like, we don't. There was no way you can walk up to your teacher and say, yo, can I like walk around the cafeteria for a while?

01:21:52
Speaker 2: Can walk it off, go to the gym full of going out.

01:21:56
Speaker 3: Yeah no, not no, not that reject off in high school, like I had the school like at my home. Yes, in my high school. In the school, I've known people who actually like jerked off inside the school.

01:22:08
Speaker 2: No, I think you are the one that you know that. I promise you you should be arrested.

01:22:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, the front of him. Yeah, I know, guy, you know guy, it was a gang initiation.

01:22:20
Speaker 4: You guys can't tell your male teachers brothers.

01:22:23
Speaker 3: No, I would not tell my teacher. I had a boner. No, I went to Catholic high school. Way, we're not men are not allowed to say anything because if I have a male doctor, no, what's more?

01:22:34
Speaker 4: No, No, that's a doctor.

01:22:36
Speaker 1: You say pause when your doctor. You men are at most Yeah, he's like when you come doctors like pause from me?

01:22:44
Speaker 2: You wouldn't rather have a female doctor?

01:22:47
Speaker 3: She was. I never really thought about it. I'm indifferent.

01:22:49
Speaker 4: I feel like wanting a female doctor for like intimate stuff like that when you're a male, I feel like that's creepy. How wanting a female doctor. If you come across a female doctor and that's your doctor.

01:22:59
Speaker 3: What if she's a really a doctor?

01:23:00
Speaker 4: Like now I don't want no male doctors. I want all female doctor. What if she's a really good doctor, But what if you.

01:23:05
Speaker 5: Still want a man like touching your putting fingers in your ass and touching your balls.

01:23:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all professional, you know what.

01:23:10
Speaker 3: I feel kind of bad for semi famous people that can't get like the crazy Hollywood private doctors like still have to go with general healthcare, but they are very famous. Like you walking in with a clap or you walking in with the bumps? You know that doctor about tell the group chet like, Yo, guess who came into the office today. I guess what they got?

01:23:29
Speaker 4: The co professionals who'll be breaking hippa for sure?

01:23:32
Speaker 3: What about male male guy to collogists?

01:23:36
Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting.

01:23:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had this conversation a lot with with a girl who has one, and maybe I'm image. I think that's fucking weird.

01:23:48
Speaker 4: He's a professor, he's a medical profession I wanting that to be your profession going, yeah, school for a body part that you don't even have.

01:23:54
Speaker 3: It's a really it's very odd, like why do why do you want to really do that?

01:23:58
Speaker 5: If he's really good, it's a medical profession and you're not for Like, if I'm a male doctor and I'm going to be a kind of coologist or study like women's anatomy, that's weird out.

01:24:08
Speaker 4: Of all, out of all the subsciences of fucking health, you chose to focus on the one body.

01:24:16
Speaker 2: I wanted to be.

01:24:17
Speaker 5: I wanted to be an obstetricianist when I was I wanted to deliver babies, like, but that wasn't like a.

01:24:21
Speaker 2: Weird del.

01:24:24
Speaker 3: I get what you were getting at you in life and spending your day just inside women's vaginas is way, But he's on a baby being.

01:24:33
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be handling a woman's vagina.

01:24:35
Speaker 3: Anyway, different delivering life. I could see someone wanting to do that. I could be.

01:24:40
Speaker 5: I could be saving her life if I'm a gynecologist and I find out she has cancer or something like.

01:24:45
Speaker 2: It's the same ship.

01:24:47
Speaker 4: I wanted to be an ol be and deliver its completely. I just want to be a guynecologist and do pap smears all day. That's I think.

01:24:54
Speaker 1: Its still dealing with the vagina under the vagina under drastically different circumstances.

01:25:00
Speaker 4: That's fair, fair curious.

01:25:02
Speaker 2: No matter what color it is, man, what the are you talking about? God?

01:25:07
Speaker 4: I don't understand.

01:25:08
Speaker 3: It depends your definition of what is is.

01:25:11
Speaker 5: If a woman is pregnant, she's not. If I'm dealing with her her body, it's the same ship.

01:25:15
Speaker 4: What are you talking about the same ship?

01:25:17
Speaker 3: You are crazy?

01:25:18
Speaker 7: Man?

01:25:18
Speaker 4: How are we?

01:25:20
Speaker 7: You know?

01:25:20
Speaker 3: What's so funny? Say there was just straight up penis doctors. There's just penis doctors. Say there is kind of colleges and a girl went to go be a penis doctor. Maull be like, no, I can't wife that. She Oh why she want to be around penises all day?

01:25:32
Speaker 2: I can believe that. You know, you know what you know you're talking about, And you would.

01:25:39
Speaker 3: Look crazy, like you know what's on that girl's mind? What do you want to be around dicks? Like?

01:25:43
Speaker 2: That's not what I would say. I wouldn't say, would say that. I wouldn't if she's a doctor, my girl is a doctor, that's like kind of let me being mad. It has money. It's stupid that she's a doctor. I wouldn't give a fuck what.

01:25:54
Speaker 3: I didn't see the cornlation.

01:25:55
Speaker 5: But if my girl is a doctor, you think I would care if she's looking at she has male patients?

01:25:59
Speaker 4: No, No, no, no, no, no, I'm saying specialized and only like she only saw Dick's all day.

01:26:06
Speaker 3: Now she's a doctor, I wouldn't she's a doctor.

01:26:09
Speaker 5: That wouldn't like I wish she's just she's she's still a doctor though she still studies. She's still studying health.

01:26:16
Speaker 3: The only just this hammers she's a doctor that she spends all day grabbing penises.

01:26:22
Speaker 5: She's a doctor man dick like that wouldn't she's once she's a doctor that that covers all of I don't care.

01:26:27
Speaker 3: Okay, So why can't the girl and only fans to be an entrepreneur because that's.

01:26:31
Speaker 4: Way two different things.

01:26:34
Speaker 2: You don't want to say you up there.

01:26:37
Speaker 3: Or not?

01:26:40
Speaker 4: Because I just I just feel I just feel like when you're going to become a doctor, what is your purpose in going to become a doctor, Like to help people?

01:26:54
Speaker 3: Would?

01:26:54
Speaker 4: Okay? To help people? Sure, there's plenty of ways to help people, There's plenty.

01:26:58
Speaker 5: Of Yeah, but that's what that person wanted to be. That person wanted to be a guy to college. That person wanted to be a obstitution, that person wanted.

01:27:02
Speaker 4: To be well, no, no, I'm talking specifically about not not obgyons not obstetricians, just gynecologists. Why did you just want to go into if you think you'd have.

01:27:13
Speaker 2: To actually gonecologists.

01:27:15
Speaker 1: I had some friends I would teacher America with that are like three of them were in medical school and they would like to like jokingly say they wanted to do GUYO and I like get it.

01:27:23
Speaker 3: It's like haha, mail hero.

01:27:24
Speaker 1: But I was like, that is weird though if they both went down that path and just were like looking at that all day.

01:27:29
Speaker 2: So why don't they just make it to where men can't be gynic coologists?

01:27:32
Speaker 1: That's I think that's a debate that's happening. Probably is where's it happening that where I mean, there are.

01:27:38
Speaker 4: Men indical, But.

01:27:43
Speaker 3: That's what donald.

01:27:45
Speaker 4: And I'm not condemned. I'm not condemning male college a weird. No, I'm not doing that. But it is cause for like pause the same way that they have like that, we had the conversation where well, why do you like this person who's a conjoint chilling or why are you attracted to It's like, out of all the things that you could accomplish with your life, why this body part is what you wanted to go into. Why there has to be a reason why why.

01:28:14
Speaker 3: I'm with you de mas, why you're being even more political than me, because I think that ship is weird, and I'm condemning all of them I think are weird. You think so you think male gud in colleges are weird?

01:28:23
Speaker 4: Yeahs? Do you think male guy in colleges are weird? I think that's a large majority of them are. I won't generally how many male god.

01:28:31
Speaker 3: In colleges do you know? I don't hang on, We're gonna have We're gonna have a We're gonna have a male gan in colleges.

01:28:36
Speaker 4: But I've had a male I've had a male my doctor. But I've had a male check me out before, and it was a little it was awkward for sure. My thing is, if I describe a pain to you that I feel right here, you don't know how serious my pain is. I can't describe it on a one to ten because you don't know.

01:29:00
Speaker 3: It feels like he specializes a guest in the culture. He doesn't really know, but.

01:29:03
Speaker 4: He's especially but it doesn't but you don't. You can't feel it, feel it.

01:29:08
Speaker 3: But he knows that he's a bit of a culture.

01:29:10
Speaker 4: Culture.

01:29:10
Speaker 3: He doesn't really understand the culture. He just likes the culture.

01:29:13
Speaker 4: But if I say I have a headache, you could be like, damn, on a scale of one to ten, what's your headache like? Or I can't, but I can describe to you, Oh, this is how my headache. I feel this headache behind my eye and immediately you can know how that headache feels because you have a fucking head and you have an eye head.

01:29:29
Speaker 3: Just because he can't assess the intensity of the symptom doesn't mean that he doesn't understand that there's other symptoms that could be correlating to what's wrong with you. Of course he's a specialist.

01:29:37
Speaker 4: But that's fine, But you don't know me personally. I'm not comfortable talking. Well, that's about something that they have. They have no idea how it feels. You can only go off of oh, I heard this hurts, and I heard this hurts, and I read that if this, if somebody says this hurts like that, then it hurts like that. But literally, it's known that black people, especially black women, are not listening to by doctors. It's like scientific fact, right, That's why the maternal mortality rate is so high in black women. So when I'm telling you that something hurts and you can't understand how it hurts outside of what you've heard, I can't.

01:30:11
Speaker 10: Right what you've heard or what you've studied. Okay, this is not just a person who's just giving you random advice. Is a person who literally went into school, medical school in fact, to go and specialize.

01:30:20
Speaker 4: And and my question is why if you read about two, if you read about an orgasm, somebody can write that ship in the most craziest detail to you, but until you feel that, you don't know what the fuck? It feels like? Am I crazy for saying it?

01:30:38
Speaker 2: Yes?

01:30:38
Speaker 3: We are you talking about coming?

01:30:39
Speaker 7: Now?

01:30:39
Speaker 3: What?

01:30:39
Speaker 7: Yeah?

01:30:40
Speaker 10: Like that's like talking about coming and I don't know acts feels.

01:30:44
Speaker 4: Like talking about that was just an example of me just drawing us.

01:30:47
Speaker 3: Similar being read I understand.

01:30:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like if you can't, I can describe something to you in detail, and sure you can study it all day, but if you've never felt it, you've never felt it.

01:30:56
Speaker 10: It's a completely different experience. About the doctors who've treated broken bones and they've never had a broken bone.

01:31:02
Speaker 4: A broken a broken But.

01:31:05
Speaker 3: That's not a good example example.

01:31:07
Speaker 10: He's dealt with that pain, but he knows how to treat that pain because he studied about how to make that happen.

01:31:15
Speaker 3: With broken bones. There's just the science of the bone is broken, put the fucking cast on. And I'm a medical doctor, so I know exactly. You know exactly what you're talking about. They come in name one time you ever went to the hospital anywhere and they did that bullshit of pain scaler. What do you think it is? And that ever changed anything?

01:31:31
Speaker 4: So are we talking about that's only to give you medication or not.

01:31:34
Speaker 3: But they put a cast on, They look at an X ray and they go, all right, bet it's broken there, let's put a cast here. That's a little different than vaginal health in my hen cities and symptoms.

01:31:45
Speaker 5: And you can you can be somebody that walks into the office and say, hey, doctor, I'm feeling this, I'm feeling that, and the doctor can be a woman walks in male doctor doc, hum, having these pains Da da da Okay. I'm pretty sure he's heard women in the past describe that type of pain in that region. But then you do things like you run tests, you do give X ray assessments, scans, you give things like that to try to locate and see what it is like. Just because he's not a woman and he doesn't know what that pain is doesn't mean he can't effectively diagnose it and treat that pain. Because he's not a woman, like he'll run to hell.

01:32:18
Speaker 3: I'm they're medical doctors that are doing that. But to Demarus's point, in describing certain things someone that also has a vagina, it's easier to communicate that because Demerius is not a doctor intensitive talking to me, easy to describe exactly what was going on in her vagina. She's not a doctor, so there's some things that's hard to explain to someone that doesn't have a vagina and doesn't have the language or explain it to me.

01:32:44
Speaker 5: Explaining it to me, I'm gonna be absolutely fucking I don't know. To a doctor that went to school and studied the woman's anatomy and woman's health, he's I'm pretty sure he can tell you exactly what's going on.

01:32:55
Speaker 3: I'll agree that I understand that I feel explaining things to doctors about how I felt with certain stuff because I don't know medical terminology.

01:33:03
Speaker 4: That's fine.

01:33:03
Speaker 3: He runs us, and I'm saying it comes down to the actually want to tell you that I don't have. But that's I'm making sense how to swear in.

01:33:11
Speaker 4: Your head vagina, So you don't understand this, there are some things that you don't do that.

01:33:15
Speaker 2: Don't do that because you said and showed us about and you don't have a dick, don't do that.

01:33:19
Speaker 4: Explain what part I'm talking about. Well, he's saying, well, they can just run test some pain. It won't show up on a test, like some pain I could be having won't show up on a test. True, I'm having that.

01:33:30
Speaker 1: No, Absolutely, the medical professional will figure out because that's the professional. They'll figure out to conduct what needs to be done to get to the root of the problem.

01:33:41
Speaker 5: Again, you think doctors have never dealt with that, Like they run tests on everything and they're like, we don't know what's causings, but they're going to keep running to.

01:33:48
Speaker 1: The education is to learn and ultimately specialize in something that you initially knew nothing about.

01:33:54
Speaker 3: We're also talking about learning it as well. That's what saying's ten minutes. Intensity and symptoms are two completely different things, and talking to somebody about a feeling that has the same thing is a bit easier than someone that's read a fucking book off the scientific shit for you. Don't simplify simple. I think men can deliver babies, you know. I think a woman should talk to when she is delivering a baby. The best one would be a woman that has had a fucking baby. If a woman that hasn't had a baby, right doctor knows everything, I still would say the woman that had the baby would be the best person to talk to.

01:34:36
Speaker 5: But that's but that's I understand what you're saying. But what I'm saying is just because that person. Because as a woman, you having a baby, your experience is different from another woman that had a baby. So it's just because you're a woman and you had a kid, doesn't mean you can identify with the pain that this one because maybe your pregnancy wasn't that hard, maybe your pain wasn't.

01:34:54
Speaker 3: That intense, But you don't think there is some type of relatable conversation. And for sure a bit of talking to someone that has been through the same experience as you is a bit easier, especially when it comes to health and especially vagina's I don't know, but then talking to some dude that read a book and just looks at vagina's so you're simple.

01:35:11
Speaker 2: You're simplifying.

01:35:14
Speaker 5: Subject in the same school that this woman while you guys were going back and forth.

01:35:24
Speaker 4: So hold on, Let's add in the fact that women's health and the way that they teach it, they they need to up I'm trying to think of the best way to say this. They need to update their books. They don't have the best thing when it comes to like, they don't have the best educational system when it comes to women's health. And doctors will tell you that. My own doctor has told me that they are still learning different things. So just for example, women who suffer from PCOS, or if I go to a doctor, I've gone to a male doctor that wasn't my doctor, but I was probably at like a clinic or something because I was going to school in the city back when my doctor was in Syracuse. And I'm trying to describe a UTI to him, right, obviously he knows what a uti is, but I'm telling him, Hey, when I pee, it feels like somebody has a hook around my belly button and it's pulling. And He's like, Okay, I don't know exactly what that means. When I go to a female doctor and say that she knows exactly what the fuck I'm talking about because she's felt that exact feeling. That sounds like something crazy to say. If I say it to a man, he has no idea what the fuck I'm talking about. When I said it to a male doctor, he had no idea what the fuck I'm talking about, because I'm not describing my symptoms in a way that scientifically makes sense. It's just the feeling. But the woman, the moment I said that, she says, I know you're talking about you have a UTI.

01:36:39
Speaker 3: And she just articulated the point I was trying to make so well, because guess what, she has a vagina.

01:36:46
Speaker 7: I don't know.

01:36:47
Speaker 3: Cool, but that was my point. But the bottom line is too different.

01:36:50
Speaker 5: She could have said that to the male doctor and he's gonna give it the same antibiotics or whatever to fucking.

01:36:55
Speaker 3: Treat the same shit.

01:36:56
Speaker 4: But he didn't know what was going on there is he's gonna run test a clinic.

01:37:00
Speaker 3: I play both side. He ran tests on you, didn't he There's value in experience. Ye, yeah, I shouldn't be running tests.

01:37:05
Speaker 1: There's value experience, But it also doesn't discredit the knowledge and educational level of the doctor that can't physically, Yeah, of course no.

01:37:14
Speaker 4: And I'm never discussed why.

01:37:18
Speaker 5: All I was saying was just because a woman is going to a woman doctor doesn't mean that the woman is gonna know and identify with the same pains that woman has had, So she may not have had that. The likelihood is bigger though, because she has the same anatomy, so she can kind of like yeah, like just like if it's a male doctor, it's on to a male doctor.

01:37:35
Speaker 2: Like doctor, you know when I'm saying you feeling you should get erected on? Oh yeah, yeah, let it be.

01:37:39
Speaker 3: I'll take it to the next level. What if she has fucking the worst healthcare okay metroplus in the city, and can only go to three fucking uh spots in her network and they have seventy five people a day, That doctor has one fucking second to look and you have literally just a small window to explain what's going on. They can't really run a bunch of tests. If they want one test that's not in your plan, so you'll have to pay out of pocket for that. Yes, give me the woman that can know that the hook in my belly button? What the fuck that means? Sure, that's cool.

01:38:10
Speaker 7: I'm not.

01:38:12
Speaker 2: Knocking that.

01:38:12
Speaker 10: I'm not knocking the relatability, but discrediting somebody's special like specialty is two different things.

01:38:19
Speaker 4: But we were never trying to discredit them that they were weird.

01:38:22
Speaker 3: He'd standing, no, of course, they are medical doctors that are. But you also, I'm saying it's easier for a woman to just go in to talk to a woman about a vagina, which is not very simple.

01:38:34
Speaker 4: That's also not near.

01:38:36
Speaker 3: That's not true entirely because you're a woman with a vagina.

01:38:40
Speaker 1: No, because while you two were not we were all arguing and bickering, I was doing my googles, and I was googling why we'll do. Women in some cases prefer having male gynecologists, And there are plenty of articles about women from their experiences that prefer to talk about this.

01:38:56
Speaker 3: Stuff with men. I just speak for all women. Oh yeah, okay, I forgot your transitioning.

01:39:01
Speaker 4: No, for sure, And that's why that's why Rory said that forgot.

01:39:06
Speaker 3: That's offensive that you forgot.

01:39:10
Speaker 4: I said they're all weird. I'm like, no, that's not true. We do need we need some and some of them probably do have good reasoning, because, like I've met women who don't want to have a female guy collegist because of their relationship with women or because they were molested by women. So we need male gynocologists. But I'm still going to look at you for at a side eye. Why you chose this professional at all.

01:39:31
Speaker 1: One of the top reasons why women prefer malelogists is because the men are funny.

01:39:38
Speaker 4: Jo on Newsweek.

01:39:40
Speaker 3: Complex proves that BuzzFeed women aren't funny.

01:39:47
Speaker 4: Jesus, you really think women?

01:39:50
Speaker 3: Do you remember?

01:39:51
Speaker 2: That's that's not true.

01:39:51
Speaker 3: I know a lot of there's a lot of funny women, remember, and knocked up When she's at the Guano and she spreads her legs and he goes, oh, you do look like your sister. That's hard, that's sick. But this is where I understand where that ship is mad creepy. And then she lied about her age and he was like, I can I know your age by counting the rings in your vagina. It's like a tree. And this is why men should not be kind of colleges. You know, this is why you should be a kind of collegious. I would have failed to test a meeting.

01:40:19
Speaker 4: Spelled guy of cologist, or it would be a good dynacologist.

01:40:22
Speaker 3: That's a crazy kind of college.

01:40:24
Speaker 2: I think if you can't spell, you shouldn't be allowed to talk.

01:40:26
Speaker 3: Go ahead, do it? Uh g Okay, that's a good star. Can you can you use it as a sentence?

01:40:37
Speaker 7: Uh? He's a woman's place.

01:40:38
Speaker 5: The woman went to a guyn of collogist because she slept with Dawskin Jermaine.

01:40:42
Speaker 4: Who had darkskin Jamaine.

01:40:44
Speaker 2: Also darkin Jermaine as burning damn.

01:40:46
Speaker 3: Country of origin, Uh, DYNACOLOGYA uh, Georgia. There you go. It's Greek, hey, meaning these science of women?

01:40:59
Speaker 4: Cool?

01:41:00
Speaker 3: Can I buy a vowel? No?

01:41:02
Speaker 2: The word find a vowel?

01:41:04
Speaker 3: You try to spell the word for the second letters a vowel.

01:41:07
Speaker 2: Buying a vowel is crazy? H g U y.

01:41:13
Speaker 4: Purpose guy, Yeah, that's true.

01:41:20
Speaker 3: No, C A L L you gotta callege college?

01:41:26
Speaker 7: G I S T.

01:41:29
Speaker 3: Sounded are? Do you want to try?

01:41:32
Speaker 7: Mall?

01:41:33
Speaker 3: Was there silent letters?

01:41:34
Speaker 7: Is that? Why?

01:41:37
Speaker 3: Is there one little accents above the U?

01:41:39
Speaker 2: U G y N E C O L O G I S T S d N N No, mall, mall? I love pussy. I gotta tell you.

01:41:53
Speaker 8: Pussy s S C pussy, Oh my I got the fun is that about to say about spelling bees?

01:42:05
Speaker 3: About so funny?

01:42:07
Speaker 5: All right, well, listen, man, this was a great conversation. I feel like, uh, the pussies were seen and the pussies were heard. We've seen and we felt pussies.

01:42:16
Speaker 3: Today, we know you can be a gynecologist because you know how to spell it the first It's the first step. It's the first step. But yeah, man, hopefully we we all found out something different about each other today, and hopefully our listeners are learned how to spell gun. In colleges today, there is there a pediatrician gone colleges. They're just pediatricians.

01:42:35
Speaker 4: I think they're just got to cologists like when you're like a young.

01:42:39
Speaker 3: Kids and doctors and pediatricians. So there's pedatrician pedatricans you forel like kids.

01:42:45
Speaker 4: Pediatricians are not looking at vagina children's doctor.

01:42:50
Speaker 3: Larry Nasser was that's is that the olympian?

01:42:53
Speaker 7: Yeah?

01:42:53
Speaker 3: He was sick?

01:42:55
Speaker 2: All right, all right, well we're gonna finish this conversation, I guess on Patreon.

01:42:59
Speaker 3: I hopefully we can spell some more words. Worry.

01:43:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna tackle We going to tackle these words one by one.

01:43:06
Speaker 3: Boy, scout.

01:43:08
Speaker 2: Spelling.

01:43:09
Speaker 3: That'd be funny. Spelling me. We can use the buzzer. Yeah, we can do that.

01:43:13
Speaker 2: We'll do spelling your Patreon.

01:43:14
Speaker 5: Subscribe to Patreon now, subscribe to our YouTube and download each and for episode of the New Rory Mal Podcast. We appreciate y'all for supporting and listening. We'll talk to y'all soon. Everybody, be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga.

01:43:26
Speaker 2: He's just Ginger peace, no worry, eno