Episode 304 | Give Rory His Flowers

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Speaker 1: And we are still live from London, live in the UK.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've moved here by this point, we might as well move here, right, this is our new studio.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, I think they're sick.

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Speaker 3: Of us podcast studio. Shout out to God cod Man, welcoming us while we're here. How you feeling, I'm good man, real good man. Feel good.

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Speaker 1: The weather's been good, sunny outside.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like feeling good? You've been moving and shaking a bit, Not really.

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Speaker 3: I mean just walking around a little bit. Steps in restaurants. You know a lot of vegan restaurants.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Not. Options are beautiful, man, I'm not. I can't complain it. On my homeboy hit Me last night it was like, Yo, what you eating? Was like Yo's vegan options everywhere in London, Like I'm eating good right now.

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Speaker 1: He was with Gigs at the Birdberry show last night going crazy. I wish no. I didn't go out.

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Speaker 3: I went to came back to the room. Uh well, I ate before I got back to the room, and then that was it.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was in the in the room for the rest of the night, trying to catch up on sleep man.

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Speaker 1: Like it's still tough time different, just like five hours of no joke.

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Speaker 3: I thought I had it figured out the first two nights, and I'm just like nine around eight nine o'clock.

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Speaker 1: It's like I'm tired.

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Speaker 2: I've been on one night, then off the next. I just keep skipping. My first night, got a bunch of sleep. Next night, you didn't sleep at all before that, got like fourteen hours last night. Last night I got like three hours of sleep.

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Speaker 1: There's no catching the will sleep. So you know it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Man, we're here you uh, I got you the festival a little bit while you were out here. Oh my god, takes it takes a different time zone in a different country.

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Speaker 1: I don't get you the festival. No, we festivaled in America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we were getting paid. Yeah that's different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've never bad with me for free if it's free, yeah, my bad.

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Speaker 1: You're right about that. If it's a bag attached to.

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Speaker 4: It, I'm near.

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Speaker 1: We weren't made in America for the love. Yeah, it wasn't the spool. We weren't a routine.

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Speaker 3: Now you're right, you're right about that. You're right about that. But yeah, no, we went to the jazz cafe festival, which was great at Burgers Park the other day. Man shout out to you by the Touch stage, Earl Sweatshirt, Rap City, Alchemy, this Rock Marciano.

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Speaker 2: It was a dope setup man, dope line up. Mike who I fuck with? I think he's a Brooklyn rapper. I've always thought it from Brooklyn. Mike that fucks with Earth. He came out to I really, Mike.

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Speaker 3: To Knowledge, Knowledge the Pirate that get him out with uh with Rock Man. If you're not in tune with with with with Knowledge the Pirate Man, if you were, you know, one of them hip hops. I just appreciate ours and you know that that real hip hop. Pheel tap in with Knowledge the Pirate Man, he's his he he he stole the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: I only wanted to go because I didn't see Uh never saw Rap live Rap Citty, and I never saw Rock live either, So I was like when we heard about the festival, I was like, damn you, I definitely want to see that.

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Speaker 1: I've nerved. I think I've seen both of them like ten times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I never I've never seen them live. And then when Rock came out, obviously I was in tune with Knowledge the Pirate already, but to see him what he did on that stage live.

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Speaker 2: I had never seen Incredible Knowledge live before. Obviously familiar because he's on so many rock projects, but it just showed the difference. I didn't even want to do like agism here. But when you see somebody that's like of the cloth and been around for a while, the performance is different. Just the way he no vocals on every track, Like, it's just different. When those type of rappers show up like college is nice. Don't get me wrong, seeing him perform give me a whole new respect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did his thing, rock did his thing to that. His set was was incredible. But you had a festival was dope, man. We had a good time. The weather held up, it started drizzling a little bit and toward the you know, the end of the show, and that's when we got out of there. But it was a it was a dope, dopervan. It was good to get out in London and experience a festival here.

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Speaker 2: I was a little nervous in the beginning because we were to the side and you know, we've made jokes about me and in the festivals it's getting off my Karen, do you know who the fuck my father is? You didn't have no lambe, Like you can't put no sticker on my shirt?

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, if you ain't got no lamb, that you you upset? I'm not avillion festival. The only time it was treating us like we ain't what I'm saying, we didn't make our bones.

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Speaker 1: How long I've been festivaling?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah this, yeah, yeah, Literally, I should be able to park that stage.

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Speaker 2: I don't even have a car. Just put a spot there for even if I don't have a car. So we get there, I'm like, I'm cool on the side over here. Yeah, but I get nervous sometimes with you, Wow, how long? Because we're similar but different in the sense that if we're in an environment we don't particularly care to be in.

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Speaker 1: We'll leave pretty fucking quickly. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But we came as a crew, so I just, you know, had that nervous like, damn, we died together.

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Speaker 1: But that's how I wasn't gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Then I looked over and I saw you like probably the biggest blunt I've ever seen you smoke, And I was like, once falls here for the long haul.

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Speaker 3: Once I'm outside and we got an area and I could see the stage and I can hear the music. Yeah, and I can smoke. Oh, I can stay here. I can stand here all night. That was no problem after that, it was but it was cool to kind of like, you know, just beat in the sept of people to at the same time, a lot of people came up kicked doing this.

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Speaker 1: It was real cool, which we didn't talk about after the show. I meant to tell you in the uber back.

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Speaker 2: So when Rocks people asked us to come on stage in the middle of his set, when they're like, yo, come he side stage, just and join the show. And when they were like, yo, come on stage, everything in me wanted to be like, bro, I'm not the on stage swag that y'all want.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make rock look cool, Like I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what to do, because it wasn't like one of those rap stages where there's like fifty guys on stage. It was like three guys. Yo, y'all come up like, I don't I'm not gonna help with the aesthetic. I'm gonna look I might actually ruin this. I'm gonna look uncomfortable behind rock. Just bop my head like yeah, I'll put my hand up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's gonna look weird that white arm and is so the whole time, I'm sitting there knowing no one's looking at us, but feeling like everyone is staring at me, probably thinking this is the most awkward human being ever, and why is he on stage?

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, But but the once you looked out in the crowd, you home. That is true. Yeah, it was. It was a lot of roories in the crowd.

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Speaker 2: That's a fact I wish because I do have that rule, like I don't like to post strangers because I think that's fucked up.

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Speaker 1: I'll do it all my close fronts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I took a video of young me in the front row full ahead of Red.

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Speaker 2: I had a video two of them. Yeah, and the young Sean Dickerson was right next to him. Yeah, yeah, just rapping everywhere.

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Speaker 3: That was like a parallel universe, right, we were looking at a parallel universe of you and Sean.

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Speaker 2: And I saw that young kid rapping every word to rock. Marciana was like, oh, this was fire. This was me in two thousand and two at a Jesus show, Like, absolutely, there is hope for the youth.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Man it's all a cycle. All of it is just on repeat. Man, it was dope to see a lot of the young, you know, white faces of hip hop in the audience.

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Speaker 2: And that kid looks so young and innocent, and I was like, Oh, here's so much life ahead of him. I hope he doesn't get corrupted. And then maybe five to ten minutes later, I saw him light up would look like a Newport one hundred, and I said, never mind.

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Speaker 1: There's no hope. But that kid is funny. I was like, Oh, he's so nice. Never mind, you're a dirt bag.

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Speaker 3: Just like, but it's just funny because that kid may turn out to be one of like the dopey an R executives like ever know managers, Like he might be that because he he was he like, he knew the words, he knew all the ad libs, he was really there for the show. It was just it's just good to see like younger like kids and younger people at hip hop show, like real hip hop shit. Like if you had a rap shitty you front stage to see rap Shitty and Alchemists and Rock Marchiano, Like if you front stage for that and you know the words, you're a hip hop.

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Speaker 1: I was happy that you finally got to witness someone calling me mare. That was hilarious. And then double down.

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Speaker 2: I was like this mall too no, like, yeah, no, no, I'm a huge fan, Like you realize that just said we're both mall right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like, no, my name is Jamal, Like, nice to meet you. I was like, I'm looking at the dude, like you think his name is Jamal? Like honestly, but he doubled down, like, of course I know that.

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Speaker 1: Of course I know sport y'all.

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Speaker 2: Not that I needed a reminder, but it's always fun to get a reminder. That Alchemists might be top three greatest producers that's ever lived.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's even a debate at this point.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, he was a DJ first, so I love that producers are getting like festival sets, but some of those producers aren't like DJ's to their core, so they just play their hits. Alchemists, you know, started as DJ first. Yeah, so how he puts his records together is way better than I think most producer DJs.

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Speaker 1: He like, what didn't he produces brought?

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Speaker 3: I thought I knew his whole catt. I was like, yo, he did this this record too. One of the joints, the Jada Kids joints he played. I forgot he did still feel me. I forgot he did that. I forgot he did one of the locks joints he played, and it was another one when I was like, yo, how did that like his his his catalog might be it might be crazier then, like I already know Alchemist is one of those minds and brains and music and hip hop that is like, you know, special, one of the special ones. But like you know, him playing his set of all the joints he produced is like it takes you through this time machine where you just like I forgot how many joints he did, And I.

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Speaker 2: Didn't forget that he did to keep it thorough beat for Prodigy, but I forgot how that song rings off, like the moment that dropped the whole crowd lost their fucking mind, like similar to we gonna make it of how much keep it throw even in London.

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Speaker 1: Peach Peach forgot he did shook ones. He didn't do shook ones. He didn't.

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Speaker 2: I was havoc shut though I wasn't even around at that point. I mean, al is the third member of Mob Deep, but now he wasn't around them.

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Speaker 1: The oldest time I thought Al did that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Al came around to murder music maybe, Okay, what year was that, ninety nine maybe ninety eight, Okay, I think the Realist with Cool g rapt was I could be wrong, was the first one that they did. And then after that Prodigy just adopted Alchemists and the rest was history.

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Speaker 1: But now that would have to do it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I didn't know he did shit Ones. I was thinking of it wasn't that? Which record was that?

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Speaker 1: Piege? When he played and you was like, damn, I didn't even know he did that. It wasn't. It was one of the early early joints though.

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Speaker 2: And that's another thing though, And like we were nerding out and maybe I was catching contact high.

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Speaker 1: But when shook Ones came.

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Speaker 2: On, oh my god, that's just certain songs that I've heard a million times that will never get old. And to think that they were children, yeah, they were like real teenagers. They were like sixteen seventeen incredible, and Havoc was micing up his stove in the projects and then created that masterpiece like insane. I know, it sounds like nerdy shit, but that stuff still blows my mind, like, how were you seventeen and decided let me do this?

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Speaker 3: And then not only that, when you even think that way, when you look around at the crowd of people in an entire different country that have an accent and.

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Speaker 1: They know it word for word. Came out in nineteen ninety five, nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 3: Four, and these are young, young, young cats at the at the at the at the festival, Like it's it's just dope to watch hip hop just transcend, you know, American culture and really just touched the world and things. Alas on doing a whole European run. A Rock is on the European Run, Bennie was out here the day we landed.

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Speaker 1: He's on a runner.

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Speaker 3: So it's just dope to see cats from back home moving around different parts of the world and and hip hop being embraced.

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Speaker 2: And I mean even I'm not just saying this because we're in London, but Europe like really appreciates hip hop. Me and I were talking backstage like I'm old, I don't even really like doing the road, but when it comes to Europe, like I know we're gonna have so much fun because these fans give a fuck about everything that we're playing, like that shit is in their veins. They still give a fuck. Yeah, so it's just different. I'm glad my first time going to a festival in London. Yeah, I mean you know that we've been there together for the last three years. So yeah, I know you didn't like it. But the thirty second little snippet he played to Meet the Grams did get a crazy fucking response.

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Speaker 1: I saw your face.

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Speaker 2: I know you weren't really into it, but the crowd did go a little fucking crazy when those.

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Speaker 1: First like four chords hit. Yeah. Remember even me, I kind of went like you remember when beat?

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Speaker 3: Remember you remember when when when when Noori was telling the story of how No One Kiss was telling the story of how Noriri took his dat back the guy he thought was with kiss and he found out now he wasn't with kissed and he looked at him to the dat back. I looked at al and took my dat back once. Once Meet the Grams came in, I was like, yo, was like, yo, take that back.

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Speaker 2: What was actually dope about that though, was he didn't play any of the lyrics, like he just let the beat play for like fifteen seconds and everyone went nuts and then switched out of it. But yeah, that that beat is like oddly surgical. It's like creepy as fuck. I didn't think it would go off at a festival like that for everyone that thinks Meet the Grams is boring and all that.

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Speaker 1: That shit went up like we're gonna make it at a festival.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean obviously the way Ale set it up, played the sample original and all that, like.

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Speaker 2: That's what it was? What was he used the same sample for another record. You guys were telling me that, Yeah, I did not know Meet the Grams and Keep It Thorough had the same sample.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, until we now do something. He broke that down. He did keep it through and then went back into the sample.

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Speaker 2: It went sample, Keep it Thorough, back to the sample then to Meet the Grams, and my nerdy hip hop brain exploded, was.

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Speaker 1: Like, it's the same sample taping people I don't even know, Like, yo, did you know that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That was dope. Though, that was dope.

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Speaker 3: I love what like DJ's and producers like do that, like play the sampled the original and get into it. Like there's a lot of videos online with just blaze doing that. A few other dudes like that. Shit is always dope to like always here because it's kind of like we got to pay homage to the original.

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Speaker 1: You got to and I.

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Speaker 2: Think that just shows like the genius of the producer, Like that's what you took from that sample. Damn, I didn't even realize you didn't just take a sample and put drums on it and then paid the fee, Like I can't believe you found that part and that's what's in the song at this point.

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Speaker 3: That's such a beautiful process, Like all of these DJ producers that like digging crates and mind these records and find that break that sample, Like that's such a I mean, obviously that's the foundation of hip hop, but it's just so dope to see guys like really that really do that, that really dig and crates and shit like that.

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Speaker 2: And we were talking to during the set because IL did like two verses I want to say mm hmm. I was like, Yo, our raps a lot better than some of our favorite bowl of macaroni.

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Speaker 1: It's that action influences. Yeah, yeah, our CoA rap man, No he can't.

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Speaker 3: I mean listen, And when you were around that much hip hop and you you hear that many bars for all those years. It's only I mean, like, come on, bro, you gotta pick up on some of that shit and just just talk shit, like just be He's just a shit talker, get his ship off and that shit.

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Speaker 1: But I could and this is me speculating.

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Speaker 2: I have no no idea nor spoke to Hip Boy or Alchemists about this. I think hit Boy is a great rapper, but he started as a rapper and was produce. He's a rapper to his core, our producer first. Yeah, I feel like al maybe had Hip Boy go back and rewrite some verses with their projectin they did together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's like, damn, I know you like really rap. Yeah, I'll go talk and shit. He definitely gonn get his shit.

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Speaker 2: Though, But yeah, it was fun. Other than that, it's been kind of quiet this London trip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, the weather's been has been great tho it's been sunny. I know, we was wilding out in the rain the last two times. Everybody's texting me like, yo, is it gloomy? Is it gloomy?

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Speaker 3: I'm like nah, not really, Like the sun has been out pretty much every day, like the weather's been been really nice.

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Speaker 1: I can't complain. The last time we would say.

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Speaker 3: It was a little rainy, little gloomy, but you know now this time around, the sun has definitely been out.

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Speaker 2: Since we really haven't done anything outside of the festival. Should we try a while out tonight or while out after the show? I feel like I need one London night. I've just been a fucking but.

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Speaker 1: What is your what is your while? What does your wild out look like?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 1: Your dad, that's what you're saying. What does your wild out look like?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: Me and Benner went and got two steaks and split them. Why would you split two steaks when you could just eat your own one?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: Because there was the iron steak and then the wagg oh you got two different type of steak and then we cut it up and split it was wild.

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Speaker 1: That's wild.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's two different type of streaks and one.

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Speaker 1: And three sides. We got garlic mash, mac and cheese and the cream spinis.

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Speaker 3: We was toilet, the toilet brothers, the splash y'all would splashed brothers.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't hit yet. I think I might need to sit. I don't think I can last night because it's gonna eventually catch up to me.

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Speaker 3: You gonna be the Splash Brothers tonight for sure, which is scary because wor's toilet paper on earth in this car.

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Speaker 1: Your asshole is gonna be fucking burning.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't really know how to wild out because the first time we were here we did the strip club thing, which was awful, but it was it was a fun experience. I still haven't done the Box, but I don't know if I have the energy for that.

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Speaker 3: That just yeah, that's a and that's a whole different type of vibe, Like it's a you know, we're all curing ourselves, but that's a different You gotta be in a different kind of kind of zone to just go to the box.

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Speaker 1: And because you don't know what's going to come on stage, you know what I'm saying. I mean, I think that's the allure of the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: No, it is, it's definitely is definitely part of the whole thing, But you got to kind of be in that zone. I don't think you in that zone.

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Speaker 2: And there was fashion Week stuff, but everything I got invited to I was like, I feel like I'm gonna get there and fre like, you know, I should have stayed the hotel, should have got another steak with better, should have.

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Speaker 1: With a third one.

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Speaker 3: I was pushing it last night. I even text you like that, what's up. You want to do something? No, I was going to definitely try to get out. I hit gigs in suspect shout shout to my guy, suspect.

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Speaker 4: I hit them. Uh.

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Speaker 3: They was moving around a little bit, but it was like fashion week stuff. You know, you gotta have an invite. And then suspect was like, nah, we mobing like fuck it.

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Speaker 1: Were just pulling up.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know if that's the type of energy I'm going, but when you get there, let me know what it's looking like.

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Speaker 1: And once it got to like one in the morning, I was just like, bro, I'm tired, Like I just want to sleep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I missed my window. That's why I text you like, fuck it, I'm gonna be up. So you text me at like ten o'clock and then I think I hit you again at like one.

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Speaker 4: It was up.

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Speaker 5: It was over.

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Speaker 4: At that point.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching First forty eight. I'm chilling, man. I wasn't going nowhere. No, no tings out here.

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Speaker 3: Nah, man, just literally I've just been whatever we did together. Once we leave, I may get some food and I'm right back at the hotel.

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Speaker 4: Bro time.

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Speaker 2: Know we're washed because the last two trips, Yeah, we had them around us. I mean, you know, sometimes we looked iller than we really were.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't understand why it's pretty chick on angles either, but.

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Speaker 3: And she's cool, yeah, like oh we want Yeah. Nah, just been chilling though. It's been a good time. I had a good time, but it's definitely been a lot of nights when I'm literally just in the bed watching TV.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm chilling. I might try to do the Leon Bridges show tonight.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Leon Bridges. Yeah, we were talking about it. He's performing at the actual the first venue we performed it out of here. Yeah Earth one of my favorite favorite venues I think we've ever done.

00:18:52
Speaker 4: It might have been.

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Speaker 1: I would like to catch that.

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Speaker 3: But then it's a conflict because we got tickets to the to the to the football game tonight.

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Speaker 1: Which I and I think you guys want to experience our first soccer game.

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna go to the Leon Ship over the soccer game, but I think you guys should go and I think, Peach, can you get as much footage of mall at that as possible?

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Speaker 1: I think y'all should do that instead of the soccer game. Yeah yeah, I'm thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to experience. I didn't even know because you know that's argan Americans. I thought we could just buy tickets to the Totten him Arsenal game. And my home girl she was like, you gotta sacrifice somebody to get Yeah, somebody. She was like, did somebody leave y'all maasterism because you can't just I said, oh, you can't eat on stuff huf.

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Speaker 1: I say, yeah, you can't just like go on on them.

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Speaker 3: She was like no, she was like, you have to, like it has to be a raffle or like a season you're a season ticket holder.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so how did you guys end up? Do you guys have tickets? Yeah, well for this game.

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Speaker 3: It's not this is not uh, this is not Premier League, right, Peach, So this is not a Premier League game tonight.

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Speaker 5: This is like.

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Speaker 1: Soccer experience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to experience a game in London, So I'm thinking about doing that. It's like going to the Rutger, like, who's ever playing basketball? I just want to see it, want to experience it. Yeah, but I mean I don't know.

00:20:03
Speaker 1: I'll go be a nerd and ask Leanna, are those major seven chords that you're playing? Like, I'll just do that. Yeah, get your ship off, man, let me know how it is. Text me.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be in there though. No, I'm not gonna do nothing, but I'm gonna look. You know, you can listen, you a man, you can look. I mean, They're gonna definitely be there.

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Speaker 3: But I would love to see Leon because he's another artist that I fuck with, but I haven't seen him love either.

00:20:23
Speaker 2: So yeah, a lot kind of happened in the past two days that we've been here. We've been recording on stop but more like evergreen stuff, not really in the moment. But today we can get to the ships.

00:20:34
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

00:20:35
Speaker 3: Your man's almost got clipped again again. Once again, they tried to take Big Don out Big full five. They tried to try to set him up. They tried to spend the block on him, but this time luckily he wasn't in the block.

00:20:49
Speaker 1: Spind the what sixteenth hole, the dog leggings spinning the dog Leggen Back nine. They try to spend the back nine on Don.

00:20:56
Speaker 2: I promise we're gonna keep this lighthearted and I'm not gonna get on my conspiracy shit. Why is it so easy to get around a former president with a rifle?

00:21:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we could do a better job at protecting Don at this point. Like, I don't understand why you're not like looking, who's in the sand trap?

00:21:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he probably had you know, he probably had his fatigue shit on laying down.

00:21:18
Speaker 1: You couldn't see him. It's the Secret Service man. Oh yeah, I get it.

00:21:21
Speaker 4: I get it.

00:21:22
Speaker 2: They found some dominant hole. Yeah, on the other side of the world. Yeah, now you're right.

00:21:28
Speaker 1: But I am I am.

00:21:30
Speaker 3: I am happy that he wasn't He wasn't harmed at all, man, because again, you know, no matter what we laugh and joke about this shit, but no matter what side of politics you want, you don't want to see, uh, you don't see anybody hurt or tragically killed. So of course you know it didn't go there.

00:21:46
Speaker 2: On politics whatsoever, But just to the side that someone can get to the president.

00:21:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, this easily back to back. It makes me fair. He didn't get there as a country, like what the fuck are we doing? But yeah, but this dude didn't, he wasn't. He didn't get that closed though.

00:22:00
Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's been on the course, he was on the course or its we don't even know if he shot and my secret service shooting him. He was a Trump supporter, vote voted Republican.

00:22:10
Speaker 1: I don't know.

00:22:10
Speaker 2: I'm from my own mental health. This has stayed away from all the reports. Amazing how they find that out so fast, like who he was voting for?

00:22:20
Speaker 1: Who?

00:22:20
Speaker 3: That's like, how do y'all know all of this already about this dude? I mean apparently Elon deleted his Twitter page.

00:22:26
Speaker 2: Uh well he deleted the tweet because he said Elon deleted his first tweet ever he was bugging.

00:22:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe his tweet was to the extent of and nobody is trying to harm Biden o'camala, And it was.

00:22:38
Speaker 1: Something these emojis, yeah, like you know, kind of like the.

00:22:41
Speaker 3: That's an interesting face. So he obviously received backlash from that, as you can, you know, we can, we know that that's a little it can be taken like, so what are you trying to say, like somebody should someone should should try to kill was saying, that's not what he's but I understanding this climate how people took.

00:22:57
Speaker 1: That so you can't tweet Hey, how come no one's also trying to kill these people?

00:23:02
Speaker 3: Right, it's a little it's a little weird. But he deleted that, but I didn't know he deleted his whole Deleting.

00:23:09
Speaker 1: Your own thoughts off your own platform, it's pretty funny to me.

00:23:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you like, I own this shit, like I'll say what the fuck I want to say. And that's why he brought it, because he said he wanted to That was like freedom of speech. He wanted people to be able to just say say, how you know, whatever they felt, their thoughts and things like that. So if that's the point of view, purchasing such a huge platform and spending the money you spent, why now would you one delete that tweet and delete your account if you had to go out golf course?

00:23:41
Speaker 2: Might be pretty high for me, Like if you're gonna get a headshot nah on a golf course, I mean, when have you we've been golfing? It's peaceful, yeah, but like like I feel like the hectic shit, like the way like RFK went out, like through a kitchen. It's crazy, too hectic. That's not peaceful for me to get murdered. Like I would love to just be on the back, you know what. I can't wait to get the clubhouse, have a beer, relaxed.

00:24:10
Speaker 1: If somebody just ended up long, that's where you want to go out. Yeah, not me. I can't back you on that, one man. Not on a golf course. I'm not trying to get killed on a damn golf course.

00:24:24
Speaker 2: But I'd like to be like setting up the shot getting smoked with your follow through. I know I do like flips and that would be embarrassing. Yeah, like you don't want that image, Like damn, he even couldn't even hold it down.

00:24:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, not on no fucking golf course. But you know, thankfully Big four five is safe and he's you know, okay four or five, that's Big four or five, Big dom man. Shout out to Donald Trump.

00:24:48
Speaker 1: Is he considered forty seven if he wins? We spoke about that. I don't know that's it. I mean, I think.

00:24:55
Speaker 3: I think you because he would be technically the forty seventh present it, but really the forty sixth when you counted, because this would be his second term talk about a hat collab.

00:25:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty seven. The name of that Brian forty seven.

00:25:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fire. See he's heard their voting for it already written. And let's just run through some of the day to day news that we missed. I kind of want my flowers.

00:25:23
Speaker 3: Oh man, I hate when you do this shit. All right, wun't now? I got a bouquet another one? What's up?

00:25:28
Speaker 5: Man?

00:25:28
Speaker 2: This is gonna be my first ass. There's a couple things on here that I want my flowers for. But we'll start here, all right. If you remember about a month ago, you thought I was joking when I thought you couldn't maybe broker the deal between Rockefeller and Drake.

00:25:42
Speaker 1: He has the money, he cares, Maybe Drake should do it. And you laughed and laughed and laughed. No, na Na.

00:25:50
Speaker 2: And then Dame last Night got on whatever platform that was and said Drake DMed him inquiring about purchasing one third of reasonable Doubt and Rockefeller mm hm. So I was even trying to set it up for you, like, yo, you could take your one percent or like your broker fee off that and we're looking at like ten million.

00:26:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you want to split that one? Percent with me or like, how do you want to do it?

00:26:14
Speaker 4: Well? He h.

00:26:15
Speaker 3: I don't know to what extent Drake reached out to Dame about that. I don't know how far they got in talks or how serious it was. But that's on brand for Drake, though, you don't think so, I mean, yeah, yeah, he got all the Pharrell's Jury.

00:26:29
Speaker 1: Negos jewelry, like what he did with the Pox ring Tupac's rhyme book.

00:26:35
Speaker 2: But are you, colle are you are you collecting it as a lover of the sport or are you collecting it as a petty way to say fuck y'all? I'm finally him?

00:26:47
Speaker 3: Well, he he has. He said in his rhymes he used to want to sign the Rockefeller and then he became and then he became Jay and then he said that before he said that before. So yeah, that that that wasn't too surprising to me that he had inquired about purchasing purchasing those ships.

00:27:04
Speaker 2: Well we well, we don't know, but we assume that he bought Pharrell's jewelry out of spite and pettiness. I don't even though we know him to be a Neptune's fan at one point. Yeah, I don't think he bought that the way he bought push his mic off. eBay didn't say he was gonna melt that ship down.

00:27:20
Speaker 1: Yeah he did say that. Come on, man, So what is he gonna do A reasonable doubt melt it down. He melt the masters. Okay.

00:27:31
Speaker 2: So in the event that Drake wins this auction, yeah, do you think your brother and who? Like, are they gonna split it up? Does Drake get can I live? Is he gonna finally clear that Dead President's freestyle? Was it Chicago freestyle?

00:27:45
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:27:45
Speaker 1: Put it on DSP.

00:27:47
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know, I like, I haven't really obviously. I read the headlines and I saw the clip of Dame talking about it.

00:27:52
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

00:27:54
Speaker 3: I don't know if that move would have been for uh, you know, kind of like a chess move, or if it literally would have been just Drake wanting to own a piece of art and history that you know, he probably helped him fall in love with hip hop, and again he was he was a fan first, you know, wanted to always sign the Rockefeller.

00:28:12
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a fan anymore.

00:28:15
Speaker 4: Why not?

00:28:15
Speaker 1: I think Drake, like me growing up, was very much a rap nerd and love this shit. But I think he is. He has been through the Ringer and met his heroes, and I don't think he revers them the way he did once because he has a different view than probably any other human being in the rap world. No, I don't. I don't think he still looks at Jay as a as like.

00:28:37
Speaker 4: You know.

00:28:38
Speaker 1: I think I think the reason why he does what he does.

00:28:40
Speaker 2: I think he views him completely as a peer. Now okay, but I don't mean that, like really in a good way. I think he doesn't have the reverence he once did because I think he's seen the behind the scenes stuff and probably has a weird view. So I think if he were to buy a Rockefeller wouldn't be from the yo I was a fan of My whole life looked up to these guys. I cannot believe I have the money to now purchase this. I'm your peer and I'm trying to now surpass you, and this is my way of trying to little home you.

00:29:11
Speaker 1: Well, I don't I don't think that. I don't think trying a little homey you.

00:29:14
Speaker 3: I don't think that, but I think that, you know, it is obviously Drake is who he is and is in a place where he can even entertain the thought of purchasing something just like.

00:29:24
Speaker 1: That on ig, just that ten million on stake.

00:29:27
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:29:27
Speaker 3: So I mean we know that obviously the capital is there and things like that, but I don't, you know, again, I understand, especially now more than ever, Drake is probably in a space where he's looking at, you know, a lot of guys a little kind of sideways because of what he just what he is still going through as far as with other artists on the music side of things.

00:29:47
Speaker 1: But I don't think that this in particular is too much of that attached to it.

00:29:52
Speaker 3: I think this was literally him just wanting to own a piece of history and something that inspired him. But at the same time kind of like a wink to like, you know what I'm saying, like but not but not with like, not with malicious intent though I don't think it's nothing malicious there little underlying. I think it's just a little it's like it's like it's like a head nod, like a little you know what I mean. But I don't think it's any any malicious.

00:30:20
Speaker 1: Energy behind that. I can't.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: I would be very surprised if that was a part of it, and I know Hoe's looking at it like, all right, you think that's some one up if you get that. But I would have to talk to Lucian about buying any of your ship.

00:30:34
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's not for sale because you'll own it. So I can see that that perspective from hope if it happens.

00:30:42
Speaker 2: But the way Drake talked on Am and Charlotte, when he was really saying, you know, I've been just gathering information about all of you in the rap world in case anyone wants to go there with me.

00:30:52
Speaker 1: It's kind of what he's saying, you're supposed to do. We have talked many times.

00:30:56
Speaker 2: We think every rapper ever has in their no toure versus about rappers they're friends with now. But just just in case for sure, I think this is one of those moves. And I'm curious what type of greasy talk Drake comes with if he ends up purchasing one third of reasonable doubts.

00:31:15
Speaker 3: We had to talk before about somebody. But see, the thing is when you talk about somebody like gonna.

00:31:19
Speaker 2: Be a crazy verse, yeah, but when you crazy first, yeah, but you can't talk see that.

00:31:24
Speaker 3: This is why Jay is so different because you can't out you can't out slick talk Jay.

00:31:30
Speaker 1: You can't greasy talk Jay. You can't do that.

00:31:34
Speaker 3: If it's anybody that could even probably remotely even come close, it would be Drake. But even Drake, as great as he is and as much as he's accomplished, you know, Jay is on a You know, when you talk about just the ability to talk slick, Jay's made a career off of just slick talking and you know, now putting itself in the space business wise where you know a lot of these other dudes are not on that level as far as business it goes. But you know, I would I would love to see it for the sport. But again, I don't think it's I don't think it's anybody that could. You can't outslick talk Ja. We're talking about jay Z. You can't you know, is starting that verse out the gate.

00:32:15
Speaker 2: I tried to be reasonable, but you doubted, Like you know, it's coming out the gate that that Drake was started that hole.

00:32:21
Speaker 1: I try to be reasonable, but you doubted.

00:32:24
Speaker 3: No, that would be fun to watch for sport, But again, man, that's you're talking about. You know, Jay is, he's on a He's on a different level as far as that slick talk shit goes.

00:32:32
Speaker 1: You can't.

00:32:33
Speaker 3: That's not how that's not how you go at Jay. You can't talk greasy to jay Z. This is again all hypothetical. We don't even know.

00:32:38
Speaker 1: This is all A'm saying. He Drake just DM him.

00:32:40
Speaker 2: If it was like a real thing, they would have been like, oh, Drake's lawyers reached out like it would have been a whole different thing. But in that hypothetical, let's say Drake rightfully so starts talking greasy because him and Hove have had back and forth for twelve years at this point, does Jay entertain any shots that come from Drake if he buys reasonable doubt?

00:33:04
Speaker 5: Do I?

00:33:04
Speaker 3: As far as on Wax, Yeah, I don't know. I think Jay is just in the No, I don't think he's in that in that uh you know rapper. I haven't seen jwear a lot of jury in a few years. That's how when you know Jay is back, like in rapper mode, he starts throwing on obnoxious jewelry ship that no other rapper can really you know what I'm saying.

00:33:27
Speaker 1: It's like and it's it's also five percent pieces that understand. Yeah, it's like he starts doing these things like, oh, he back in the booth. But I don't.

00:33:35
Speaker 3: I don't think that if if Drake was to throw a shot at it's funny talking about it like that, but if he was to throw that type of shot, it would take a different type of I don't think it would be the type of shot you think. I think Jay would have to hear something that would perk his era up. But I don't think it'll be as blatant as you may think.

00:33:54
Speaker 4: It may.

00:33:54
Speaker 1: It may be something to where only j would catch it, and that that may move him.

00:33:59
Speaker 4: Now.

00:34:00
Speaker 2: I think that the world has a perception that Hove ignores things. He pretty much replies to literally everything when it's time to rock. No everything, you know much you don't if you think, if you don't think we're gonna get a verse that has to do with the Wayne situation with the super Bowl, you're bugging if you know, he'll.

00:34:18
Speaker 3: Have in line addressing it like y'all how like you know, how could y'all say I shouldn't helped him with his taxes? Like he'll remind you, like, like come on, who y'all talking to? Like I didn't help people that y'all don't need y'all forget convening them.

00:34:28
Speaker 2: Like ten people on Twitter had talked about Meek and Hove maybe having an issue, and he replied to that, on God's plan, Yeah, my God's plan.

00:34:38
Speaker 1: Hope God did. Yeah, but he his response was more so like yeah, we can freedom from a whole bit. Yeah, Like how we can? I can't say it. Jada's not like, but do you understand that? Response?

00:34:48
Speaker 4: Though?

00:34:48
Speaker 3: That response is more so like yo, cut it out, man, I can't. I wouldn't beef with the like why would I beef with me?

00:34:53
Speaker 5: Like?

00:34:53
Speaker 1: What do you? I helped him?

00:34:55
Speaker 3: I'm not going you know what I'm saying, like I got like I'm talking about Rod, not not on like business ship.

00:35:00
Speaker 1: I helped him in a real life situation. I helped him.

00:35:03
Speaker 2: That's not what a prison. We're not saying you didn't do that. We're just saying we think y'all have tension and he and he quickly showed y'all how stupid that sounds. I can't have tension with somebody that I helped get out of prison. That don't even make sense to me.

00:35:16
Speaker 3: That goes if I got tension with somebody you think I'm gonna help them get out of prison.

00:35:20
Speaker 2: To me, that kind of goes back to the Rowdy Bobby question that happened on No Jumper, when I thought Rowdy handled that really well and didn't give into the gossipy bullshit. But it appears like there may be some tension and he didn't answer the question, just said that's my brother for life.

00:35:33
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's kind of what I think Hope did with the Meek situation.

00:35:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can steal beef, but nah, but it's not beef. It's like it's a deflection. It wasn't even a deflection more. It's a correction, is what it is. See the internet is gonna say shit and try to turn twist shit. It's like, stop, I understand that's the thing to do. Rappers beefing going at each other. Let me let y'all know where my relationship is with me. I helped him get out of prison. I'm not I can a beef with somebody that I helped get out of prison. And we're on two totally different levels. Like what this jay Z game from beefing with Meek Mill?

00:36:08
Speaker 1: What is that we're not beefing like publicly, or even disagreements behind the scene. Oh yeah, disagreements happened with best friends, you know.

00:36:15
Speaker 2: Not clearly, there was something when Meek left rock Nation, like that's what started this entire.

00:36:20
Speaker 3: I don't even think it was nothing. I think I think Jay was more so on the side, like, Yo, that's what you want to do, y'o. The tension would have been him not wanting Meek to get out of the deal and not one and not wanting to release. Yeah, then it's like, yo, why you're not letting me go and do what you want to do business wise? Lett him do his own thing. That's where the weird shit comes in. But if it's like, yo, I kind of want to get off rock Nation and go do my other thing, my own thing, and Jay's like, I bet no doubt, let me know if it's anything I can help you with.

00:36:45
Speaker 1: That's like that's letting you know that somebody is not in it for that type of shit.

00:36:48
Speaker 2: Like, but I guess my original point that hole replies to literally everything down to On written testimony, he gave us a whole verse about his backlash with the NFL Super Bowl.

00:37:00
Speaker 1: We're done with kneeling.

00:37:02
Speaker 2: He even told us that he has more money than an entire NFL bench. Why would I need to sell out? I love that verse, but I'm saying he replies to everything when it comes to raps. If you think Drake buying one third and Drake also replies, they're very similar in that regard.

00:37:17
Speaker 1: I just don't know he suddenly replies to everything. Everything is what I have a problem with.

00:37:21
Speaker 3: I don't think he replies to everything, because there's a lot of shit that people say about jay Z every day that he would never entertain. But there are certain things where he'll let you know. Yeah, I heard when y'all was saying that y'all had that wrong.

00:37:34
Speaker 1: This is what that said.

00:37:34
Speaker 2: Everything is love. He even replied to the Twitter rumors of him having a kid. You wasn't supposed to take the dad shit literally, Like, he really replies to everything that we say on the internet.

00:37:43
Speaker 3: I don't think everything. I think when you say everything, I don't think you know how much shit they talked about jay Z on the internet, the things that get a little bit of steam. Yeah, but he'll let you know he sees like he probably sees it all. He's not gonna respond to it, though, But he'll he'll let you know by responding to certain things like yeah, I saw that, I caught that, but that's not what that was. So again, I don't think that you know, when you say jay Z beefing or responding, He's not gonna respond to any and everything. It's only certain things like I said that will kind of get him to move and want to create music around it.

00:38:13
Speaker 4: Like.

00:38:13
Speaker 1: It's not everything though, And we.

00:38:14
Speaker 2: Can get off this topic, but I will ask the last question in this hypothetical, do you think the rapper brain of Drake could even purchase that and not say anything.

00:38:25
Speaker 1: On a song.

00:38:27
Speaker 3: No, that's why you purchase it. You gotta get you Yeah, just do it for content. Go fuck yeah, you gotta get that off of you kidding me. You purchased that, you gotta rap about it. You gotta talk shit about that without a doubt.

00:38:39
Speaker 2: So do we I mean, between your affiliation with your brother and Drake, Like, are we invited to the first reasonable doubt meeting? Be a flop, be a fly on the wall, there ain't gonna be no meeting about that ship. I think I think I could take notes. I think like I could be a snogafer or something yeah, you probably be able to do that. Yeah, like I'll just take notes so you might send the meeting. Actually that's not what he said.

00:39:00
Speaker 1: This is what he said. I got it right here.

00:39:03
Speaker 4: Actually. Yeah.

00:39:05
Speaker 3: I think that he definitely did reach out to Dame and in quiet, but I don't think it went much further than just a conversation.

00:39:12
Speaker 1: I don't think it would need to the lawyers. Dame's not the one that makes that decision anyway.

00:39:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's what once Drake realized that he's all I got to go through all of these Ah.

00:39:21
Speaker 2: I don't want to know Drake. We know Drake is very smart. He knew Dame couldn't sell that to him. He did that purposely. He knew Dame was gonna get on a platform and be like, yo, Drake DM me about the ship.

00:39:30
Speaker 1: Well like that too.

00:39:31
Speaker 3: Definitely that, but I think more so if he was really interested, he did inquire just to kind of get more information on like really what's going on with it from Dame, Like, yo, so what's the like, tell me more about like this situation, like what's happening? And I think once he found out that, yeah, Jay gets it all back in seven years he probably was like, it's not really yeah, you know what I mean, it's not probably not worth it.

00:39:52
Speaker 1: All right, that's my first set of flowers. Did I get any flowers enough?

00:39:56
Speaker 3: I'll give you flowers though, because you definitely, uh, you definitely, I'll give you a you get a rose.

00:40:01
Speaker 1: You get a rose for that, not a whole bouquet. Okay.

00:40:09
Speaker 2: My next next segment of me wanting my flowers has to do with Universal and Meta doing a deal, and I don't know if I need flowers in this. But I've been very curious since the beginning of this Drake and Kendrick Beef.

00:40:25
Speaker 1: As to why he's putting all this music.

00:40:27
Speaker 2: Why are both of them leaking this initially on Instagram? And I know a lot of people were saying, like, oh, because the samples, and like it's about hip hop, it's about the beef, Like it's not on DSPs because this is pure art. Now they're just going to go on Instagram, Like, oh, I don't know if Instagram is the purest art their flicks. They should have pressed it on a CD with a sharpie at that point. But I was always curious why they did that. It was like, there has to be some type of reason reasoning with this at all, And then we even had debates of Okay, there's still affiliation with Universal and maybe they wanted Kendrick to release defaming things about their biggest artists not on DSPs, like maybe that's what it.

00:41:12
Speaker 1: Had to do with.

00:41:14
Speaker 2: Then one hundred Gigs comes out and we have the debate of like, why is Drake posting this stuff on this website? Plus only putting these records out on Instagram still feels very weird and were we here or last episode when I was saying, Yo, if he cared about these records, there'd be a proper rollout. M That's where I was wrong in regards to everything now making sense. Yeah, meta in Instagram, I'm sorry, Metta is Instagram Meta in Universal have some form of a partnership. And this is coming from producer Damian Young, who's been going viral lately. As far as breaking down like royalties, he's really do. Like his page, he does explain things for like a dumb novice like myself to really understand that type of stuff. So he last night put this out. Instead of being paid for streams, artists are being paid for the number of accounts that use their music instead. To put it simply, instead of artists being paid for activity generated by their music such as comments like shares, reposts, they are instead being paid by the number of accounts who choose to use their song instead. Which we had some knowledge of this with TikTok when people were using sounds and like that was sort of out there, But now that Universal Meta have this partnership, I think it goes to a different level. So yeah, again, we know that this has been going on with TikTok as far as using sounds and people being paid out for that. What Damian Young is really asking with this new partnership with Meta and Universal is how is that formula going to change now? And clearly artists like Kendrick and are ahead of the curve and have the answers to that, but we don't know what that payout looks like whatsoever. I think this deal that they announced is going to change music the way it changed when DSPs showed up. We constantly are asking, like, all right, DSP has to be the final front, like where could it go from here? With Meta now it's going to have to create an entirely new formula that we have no idea how it's even going to benefit any artist or creator, but clearly the biggest ones are already doing it before any of this announcement. So remember we were talking, I was like, there's no way Universals cool with Drake putting all this footage up like that. They own that that there has to be a reason why they're okay with the moves Drake has been making because they still own his shit for the most part. I no licensed deal whatever. But yeah, there's not much to really discuss with this announcement. I just think we should keep our eyes on it because everything's about to change.

00:44:01
Speaker 3: But I think we kind of because when when when he's when Drake did the Honey Gigs thing, and one of your first reactions to it was, oh, Drake had to remind everybody like the catalog the work things he's done. But now, as we can see, it's a different thing coming out with this Meta thing.

00:44:23
Speaker 1: And remember when.

00:44:26
Speaker 2: The whole catastrophe of Universal Universal artists can't be on TikTok anymore, they're not giving in.

00:44:33
Speaker 1: All of that shit is tied in. Now Meta does deal with Universal.

00:44:38
Speaker 2: It's everyone's playing with house money and we're the only ones that'll be fucked like every time we come in here and like, yo, finally they're holding out. Nope, No, this was to play the whole time. Yeah, And and Drake and Kendrick are clearly ahead of the curve of what's going on.

00:44:55
Speaker 3: Oh but you know that they're already in in the know and in the business of all of these things before we find out about it. They know what's going to happen. They know the shifts and the moves that are being made. So you know, now, what does this dodo as far as moving forward? Artists make moves like that, Like now we're looking at every move like, okay, what is this tied to? What is that tied to?

00:45:15
Speaker 1: Because everything has to make sense for the artists at the end of the day.

00:45:18
Speaker 2: And this isn't a defend Drake situation at all with everyone's like yo, it's just not even charting anymore.

00:45:25
Speaker 1: It's not a billboard, Like does that matter?

00:45:29
Speaker 4: Now?

00:45:30
Speaker 2: Are we seeing the shift where that how you release music matters more to what you do with meta than it would ever matter with charts, Yeah, or playlists or DSPs for that matter.

00:45:42
Speaker 3: Like I think ego wise, it probably still matters ego. We're talking about ego, just just just personal ego.

00:45:49
Speaker 2: But if you have information, as Drake of where things are going to shift, I don't think you have an ego at all, because you know what's about to happen. You're probably looking at all of us laughing ignorance, like even we don't have to make it a drink thing with Kendrick putting out kill the Party or whatever the title will be, which we.

00:46:07
Speaker 1: Don't even know.

00:46:08
Speaker 2: The title doesn't even matter because it doesn't even fucking matter. I was like that Kendrick song came and went did it because it's all over, It's all over meta. It's not on DSPs, it's not on any charts, it's not being played, but it's being played where it matters. If this new formula exists and it's I guess the fight back at TikTok like, all right, we'll find a partner will that will fuck with.

00:46:32
Speaker 1: Us and how to make it valuable for both of our catalog will matter now and we are going to start counting things by the accounts that share rather than the streams because they all fucked us up and created the streaming formula. We joked for a decade. What is a stream? How to even dictate what a stream is? What it costs?

00:46:53
Speaker 2: Like you created that formula in your head one day, and now we all have to march by those standards. You value my music at this because you say so, this is fucked up. I think they're about to do the exact same thing at Meta. They're going to change the formula of how music is valued. Oh, it's valued now by just what accounts are sharing it, not by what streaming gets, not by the amount of seconds it's played on TSPs. There now can create a completely different formula on the fly.

00:47:22
Speaker 3: So so a deeper thought on that. How does that affect the formula of creating music and writing music?

00:47:30
Speaker 1: Who the fuck knows?

00:47:32
Speaker 3: See, that's the part I'm thinking about, Like, how does that affect the creative process of.

00:47:36
Speaker 2: Well, that's what Damian Young was saying at the end of this video then went viral last night of like they've announced it, but they haven't given us any information on what a payout even looks like. At this point, which was streaming early too, like everyone was wondering, all right, cool, I like what Spotify is doing? Oh I heard Apple was about to do the same thing. This is the new wave? How am I being paid that? We're still trying to figure it out? Right, this is gonna be a whole other monster. How you even dictate what all Right accounts did it? But the amount of AI and bot shit that you could do, Like, how you even dictate what happens?

00:48:15
Speaker 3: And it's already a producer that used AI to create a band and then use bots to listen to the to make ten million and made ten million, And you think they're gonna let that shit slocke. See, we gotta find a scammer that knows how to do that. I don't want no clothes, no jewelry. You niggas better start creating band. That's the pieces that hit for me.

00:48:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, create a fucking band and let's run these fucking numbers up. And the best I ever did with scam best by a gift card. Yeah, like those days can make up. They don't want flat screens, don't call me with no more flat screen TVs.

00:48:45
Speaker 3: Nigga have five bands waiting, not five thousand dollars, five guitars and basses and the leads.

00:48:52
Speaker 2: I have all of that fake shit wait, and that's the fake shit we want, and it's just like, I'm pessimistic, So this type of shit depresses me. You know, I told you because you are you're not even like music. It's going to affect everything across the board because you know, even with the podcast world, where as far as ads and CPMs go towards downloads, we clearly see that streams do more than downloads, and that's like an ancient thought.

00:49:22
Speaker 1: So we are in the streaming world, whether we like it or not. This affects us the same way.

00:49:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how they fucked us to begin with when it came to DSPs, because podcasts keep people on DSPs longer than thriller could. The retention rate is incredible with podcasts, but we are paid out at the same rate, which is fucked up. And keep someone on your platform this long, I should not be paid the same as someone that doesn't.

00:49:45
Speaker 3: How does that How do you think that that would affect the podcast and industry at all?

00:49:50
Speaker 2: I don't know yet, That's what I'm saying. This is kind of nuts of of what they're doing because it's sounds now like that's even how TikTok it. It's an actual song that you cut down. It's just called a sound. And I'm not trying to get too deep, but like, that's fucking nuts. It's not songs like scared. This is a sound that you can put behind your TikTok video and now that has a value that is counted the same way a single once was.

00:50:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was used and it was cost this much. This is what you get back. I don't know what the fuck they get. What's a sound anymore?

00:50:25
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:50:26
Speaker 3: Man, it's changing, the changing the meaning and definition of words right right in front of us, and we gotta.

00:50:30
Speaker 1: We gotta just like go with it. I'm scared. I mean, I'm not.

00:50:36
Speaker 4: I'm not.

00:50:36
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say scared.

00:50:37
Speaker 3: I'm interested, and I'm I'm I want to see you know how it affects change and things like that.

00:50:43
Speaker 1: But this is part of technology.

00:50:46
Speaker 3: This is part of advancing you know, as far as you know, the way we listen to music, the way we create music, the way we you know, share music with each other.

00:50:55
Speaker 1: This is all part of this whole new thing that we have. And repeating myself again, but it has to do with what we're talking about.

00:51:02
Speaker 2: When I was at Sony and Spotify, when public emailed the whole company can't buy shares that would be considered insider trading because we own twenty five percent of Spotify, which is crazy. So if I'm an artist at Sony, you're dictating what I'm paid out. You're supposed to be my representation. You should be fighting the DSPs to make sure I'm paid the right amount of money. No, you're sitting with them and setting the price for what you think I'm worth, right, And I think Meta and Universal is doing the exact same thing now, the same way the majors did with DSPs. All right, Yeah, we'll just buy in to your company and we can all set the price ourselves. We can make sure that a stream to an artist is only worth point zero zero zero zero one cent, but to us, we're getting twelve ninety nine a month from every subscriber.

00:51:56
Speaker 3: I would love that I got to have a conversation with about this. I'm sure heatn't ready.

00:52:01
Speaker 2: I'm probably sounding like a bunch of nonsense right now, but that video blew my mind last night of the Meta and Universal connection, not to say it was like holy shit, it makes sense, Yeah, it makes sense. They are about to set the market price again. The market is going to change for sure, and we're just gonna be But do you think it changes for the better?

00:52:23
Speaker 4: No?

00:52:25
Speaker 1: You think artists are still going to get fucked at the end.

00:52:27
Speaker 4: Of the day.

00:52:28
Speaker 2: Yes, because clearly, which we've talked about, that the biggest leverage that majors have is catalog. It's not new artists, catalog is everything. Especially that was the whole TikTok beef, like Universal saying you were ties into why people would dump in their catalogs a couple of years ago. Okay, hell yeah, just talking with this odd about that's EO shit. All right, five more years and we selling this.

00:52:56
Speaker 3: A lot of that shit makes sense now, yeah, because I could being standard At first, I was like, its being used for.

00:53:03
Speaker 2: The tech companies and content sounds. It's being this sound sound sounds sound Swiss tried to tell us. I thought he was just saying weird shit. I thought Swiss was just high. It's still it's still.

00:53:17
Speaker 1: With zone Zone Zone, the zone that we own.

00:53:27
Speaker 2: Oh man, well we'll see what happens again. I'm not pretending like I am an expert in any of this ship. I'm just as confused as everyone else, just as scared as every other creator that the person that's supposed to pay us out can set the price.

00:53:42
Speaker 1: I mean, I think in any other genre or industry that would be illegal. But what the fuck do I know?

00:53:53
Speaker 3: I believe like it's a monopoly. It almost definitely. That's not even a debate anymore.

00:54:00
Speaker 1: It's a monopoly in a cul de sac, and we're just trying to pay rent.

00:54:04
Speaker 3: Just trying to get a piece of it. That's fucking crazy. Before we go any further, though, we've lost some legends.

00:54:10
Speaker 4: We did.

00:54:11
Speaker 3: We lost some great people on our culture. Rest in peace to the great James Earl Jones, somebody that has been a figure on our screens, televisions, radios, homes.

00:54:26
Speaker 1: For years.

00:54:28
Speaker 3: Lost him last week. So resting peace and condolences to James Earl Jones. We lost Frankie Beverly. Rest in peace to Frankie Beverley, somebody you talk about, Frankie Beverley and Mays who's been the soundtracks to some of our greatest memories and fondest moments with our friends and families throughout the years. You can't go to any celebration, cookout, ceremony, anything without hearing Frankie Beverly at some point. So rest in peace to the to the legend from Frankie Beverly, and also rest in peace to Tito Jackson. Yes, from the Royal Jackson I like to call them the Royal Jackson Family. We lost Tito Jackson a couple of days ago, so pres condolences and rest in peace to all of the legends that we've lost. And yeah, man, it's just, you know, it's always tough when you start seeing people that such a like, people that you've heard or seen for years, and you know, in music and film and things like that have given us some great moments and some legendary, legendary art that will remain forever. So rest in peace and prais condolences to the legends and the icons, mister James Earl Jones, mister Frankie Beverley, and mister Tito Jackson.

00:55:44
Speaker 1: What's some what's your favorite James Earl Jones movie?

00:55:48
Speaker 3: My favorite James Earl Jones got to be coming to America, King Jeoffrey Joe for yeah, gotta be King Jeoffrey Joe.

00:55:56
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm white, so feel the Dreams is prett high there for me?

00:56:00
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Phil, The Dreams that's a that's a legendary film. I loved him in The Sandlot. Yeah, The Sandlot one of my favorite movies.

00:56:09
Speaker 4: Loved him in that.

00:56:11
Speaker 3: But I think Coming to America is probably the one that we all go to when we think about James RL Jones, for sure. But he's been you know, you started really looking into the history and the career and legacy of James RL Jones.

00:56:24
Speaker 1: He's done. He's done it all. He's done everything. How much strooms do you think?

00:56:30
Speaker 5: Uh?

00:56:31
Speaker 1: Phil Robinson was on when he wrote Phil the Dreams. He was a sympthing.

00:56:35
Speaker 2: That's a sick movie when you start getting into that that plot. That's a great movie though. That's about main character syndrome. Kevin Costin's in that, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that was That was a movie. I think we had to That was one of the movies I think we had to watch in school.

00:56:52
Speaker 1: Really yeah.

00:56:52
Speaker 3: I think that was one of those movies they used to roll the TV out. I'm not old roll the TV out. I think I'm that old too. I don't think we watched phild Dreams. I think we definitely watched to Watch All the Dreams in school, definitely.

00:57:02
Speaker 1: And I'm not.

00:57:03
Speaker 2: I love that movie classic. I might hear ship on it, but I'm on it. It's the definition of like main character syndrome.

00:57:09
Speaker 1: Whatever the kids say. Now, like all this happened just so you could reconnect with your pops.

00:57:13
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, everyone's ghosts came back, James ol Jones went on a road trip with you.

00:57:19
Speaker 1: This is all just so you could say to your dad, do you think I'm good at baseball? Yeah? You can't see that. That thing was so fucking I was like, wait, this was what it was about? Yeah, the connection. No, that was a shroom trip. It definitely feels like a shream now that you get older, you know, like with different drugs, do you like, No.

00:57:40
Speaker 2: One's that important that all of that was gonna happen just so he could say what's up to his pops? Great movie though, and then and then his selfish ass, I can't go in the cornfield.

00:57:53
Speaker 1: I can't come with I built this bro.

00:57:55
Speaker 2: Talk to your dad about we're gonna take James Earl Jones and the rest of the people in the rnfield.

00:58:00
Speaker 1: You're not coming. Yeah, let's talk to your dad. You're not coming with us? Yeah, great movie. I love that movie. Classic.

00:58:08
Speaker 2: I'm a little scared to talk about this topic because I don't fully know what's going on. But why is everyone mad at Tyler? So I believe she received a VMA, and I think because they it was the way she was I can't remember. Somebody posted a video was like she was trying to.

00:58:29
Speaker 1: Have Chloe and then Lil nas X have nas X hold the award for her, just as it was heavy. That happens though. There's been plenty of ward shows where but they not until they are presenting.

00:58:40
Speaker 3: They'll be like, yeah, but when your person receives the award, you only see the person you don't see who's off to the side of them. So when they showed the other angle and how she was trying to hand the award to uh little nas X to hold it for her, I guess that that kind of like silenced all of the things that people were saying about it.

00:58:57
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that was.

00:58:58
Speaker 2: What's all right, Let's say she was like, yo, lil nas hold my ship. Okay, now what but why is everyone upset?

00:59:06
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, and we could we can have this all wrong, but I don't even know what they were mad.

00:59:10
Speaker 2: At from what I see in it, I kind of wish you would tell this story instead of me part of my white face. I think it's rooted in the stereotype that Africans look down on African Americans.

00:59:26
Speaker 1: Oh boy, is that that? I mean, that's that's anything so very long time I've talked about it.

00:59:34
Speaker 3: But I also I'm looked down upon on niggas that's on my block that grow with me. So now, what's not Tyler?

00:59:41
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm not.

00:59:42
Speaker 3: I'm definitely not Tyler, But I'm just saying people look down on you no matter where they're from.

00:59:46
Speaker 1: Like why do we got to try to make it that? Yes, I know what that whole conversation is.

00:59:52
Speaker 3: And you know, Africans feel like they're better than African Americans and things like that, and they look down on us and people from down the block For me that grew up that they look down on me. So it's like, what do we what are you talking about here?

01:00:04
Speaker 1: And maybe I missed more of the story. I just don't.

01:00:08
Speaker 2: I know, I've known that stereotype for a long time. I've been told that stereotype. I just I just didn't see it. When she asked Lil Na's ex the hole.

01:00:17
Speaker 5: Bro.

01:00:17
Speaker 3: The trophy is heavy. It's a man on stage. Can you hold this for me while I, you know, give my acceptance speech? What are we talking about here?

01:00:24
Speaker 1: Called p laugh? Yeah, like I could, I mean, but peg with you laughing that, you know what he's laughing.

01:00:31
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't this this this thing of people trying to paint this the tyler as just this, you know, I don't know how they're trying to paint it. Just give it this weird kind of like you know, thing that she looks down or she thinks she's better than or she's only successful because she's pretty, and it's it's just.

01:00:50
Speaker 1: We were just running out of things to talk about it something what's happening.

01:00:52
Speaker 2: I think most artists just look down on the spirit. NICKI has never made me feel good about myself.

01:00:58
Speaker 3: Well we got that on Hey we know exactly how she made you feel about yourself. But yeah, I don't that tyl of thing.

01:01:04
Speaker 4: Man.

01:01:04
Speaker 3: I just think that that was people reading that all wrong. And then I'm glad the other angle that video came out and you can clearly see she's kind of asking Nass to hold over for her.

01:01:13
Speaker 2: I saw, you know, Nicki's been I don't want to say a spiraling on Twitter, but that's what a lot of people have said she's been.

01:01:18
Speaker 1: She's been furious with her thumbs for the past two weeks.

01:01:22
Speaker 2: She did tweet something that I really did want to like co sign her that people thought she was crashing out, but I understood she was saying. She went to theater school and she was taught how to not laugh when she was making jokes, so they appear to be serious. It's like an acting technique, and were like, yeah, what the fuck is she talking about. I can attest that when she was talking about a broom being shoved in my ass, I could see in her eyes that she was joking, even though it didn't come across like that's a trained actor. And even when we were doing Queen Radio and she would go on like these rants, I could see like she was kind of smiling, but you couldn't tell she were right next to her. NICKI beatrolling man like O the way when she screams and she's joking. I just don't think people understand.

01:02:08
Speaker 3: That people didn't grow up with sisters and homegirls that you know, that's NICKI reminds me of so many girls that I grew up with when they you know, get to talking, they ship and you know, but it's like, you know, they don't mean it in a malicious way. I've been cursed out by plenty of girls that that exact way, and at the end of the night, it's like, you know, it's all up.

01:02:27
Speaker 1: I know they didn't mean nothing, but.

01:02:29
Speaker 2: It in that situation is what I said to Nick, You're not the first woman from Queens to curse me out, Like that's not affected here.

01:02:34
Speaker 1: I'm from New York? Are you kidding me? Like that's definitely I'm used to that type of stuff.

01:02:37
Speaker 2: But spending that whole day with her, and again they were killing her on Twitter, I was like, nah, I spent the day with his chick. I could see every time she wanted to laugh in so many rants. But it's the character that she's putting on for this entertainment person. She's gonna lean into her being the bad guy, not to die laughing that entire day Nicky. She gon, why is NICKI so mad at y'all? Like she wasn't man, she's she's but she she understands that that's the narrative that people are trying to paint. So she's like, all right, I'm the bad guy and paint me is the bad guy. But at the end of the day, she's a sweetheart.

01:03:07
Speaker 4: Man. I love Nikki.

01:03:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy she was getting that shit off, though she think it's a little misdirected with the whole.

01:03:13
Speaker 1: You need that get you.

01:03:14
Speaker 3: Let Nikki get ur shp off. Fuck that and people. Sometimes people need to hear that. You need to curse some of these motherfuckers out. That is fair, you know what I'm saying, Like, sometimes you need to tell people shut the fuck up, Like why not? Yeah, sometimes people need to shut the fuck up, especially.

01:03:29
Speaker 1: When your husband is behind you.

01:03:30
Speaker 2: Shadow boxing balloons, Yeah, no one else could see that on the frame, but I could. I've never seen anyone hit combos like that on a pink balloon. I like, I had so much fun that, Like, how'd you turn helium into a speedbag?

01:03:48
Speaker 1: For so many reasons? I had so much fun that day. That was a great day. We have some voicemails. Let's get to them.

01:03:54
Speaker 4: You've got mail.

01:03:57
Speaker 3: Anything interesting? Relationship advice? I feel like giving the relationship advice today. Let me I think this first one. I get this bad You know, Nikki get this bad rep. I get a bad rep for wanting to break people up to the don't want to make people you know happier in their relationships.

01:04:11
Speaker 1: Are you lying just like Nikki? Not for real?

01:04:14
Speaker 6: What up Rory and Maul, Julian and Demaris?

01:04:16
Speaker 4: I have a dating question.

01:04:18
Speaker 6: Yes, So I was seeing a guy for a few months. We were essentially long distance, but it was we were very close in proximity and I was often out there in the same state as him, in the same city, and so every time I was out there, we would see each other, link up whatever, go on dates, and everything was going really well. I do want to say that this person pursued me first, Okay.

01:04:42
Speaker 1: I think I know this girl. I'm not gonna say there's no way she called in. I know who this is. Now that you say that, I think, I think I know that you know who this is.

01:04:57
Speaker 4: Play it.

01:04:58
Speaker 6: So that's why this is an issue for me, because Nahn after a while exactly just completely stopped. And part of it was because out there as much, so that's kind of what I assumed. But for it being so abrupt and after everything going so well and us talking about a future together, and you know again, it was very much in a honeymoon phase of dating. But I brought it up to him about a month after us like not communicating out of nowhere, and he told me that it was an out of sight, out of mine thing, like he didn't think a long distance relationship could work.

01:05:33
Speaker 5: Now.

01:05:33
Speaker 6: I just thought it was kind of weird because he already knew where I lived and vice versa, and everything was going cool, Like there was no stipulations that we even talked about. It was just getting to know each other. So that was one thing he brought up. And another thing was that we knew too many of the same people.

01:05:50
Speaker 1: Now know exactly this is.

01:05:52
Speaker 6: Oh, I feel like that's a whole insecurity and he is just kind of like tapping out and making assumptions for no reason.

01:05:58
Speaker 1: Now is this someone that I should.

01:06:00
Speaker 5: I go of?

01:06:00
Speaker 1: Do I need to just not worry about it?

01:06:03
Speaker 6: Like, am I being played?

01:06:05
Speaker 1: Let me know what you guys think. See, I can't be objective in this anymore. I wish Demarus was here.

01:06:12
Speaker 2: This is we might have to redo this voicemail again on Patreon with Demeris because the moment I hit play, She's be like nah, no, way she called him.

01:06:23
Speaker 1: Who is that? I'm not going to say her name. I mean we have the daddy button, all right, we came back in. I can't be objective in this voicemail. If this is not the girl I think it is. They have the exact same fucking voice, even the way they say things. This has to be But say that's not her. What advice do we have for her now?

01:06:45
Speaker 2: Because I can't get out of my head that it could be her and I'm a hater. Yeah, like, not even him, I even know he was talking about crazy. That's wow, that's what who you're thinking?

01:06:57
Speaker 1: What we end?

01:06:59
Speaker 3: You can't you're not you can't be anyone. And then I'm definitely not giving you advice, Like come on, I'm not that secure.

01:07:05
Speaker 1: Of course not. I'm not gonna objective here. He's not the right one for you. Oh man, this is wild.

01:07:15
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is good content or not, but that just blew my mind. But she subscribed to our Patriot. Are we sure that's heard of? I'm not even like, we can't. It might not even be who who you're talking about. I mean, we should keep all this because IT'SHILEI I'll definitely keep it. But I don't think that that's who you think it is.

01:07:29
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't see that. I can't see that me either, or text and ask like, YO, did you leave? I haven't her and I haven't spoken. Really, That's why I don't believe that that's who that that that that's her.

01:07:44
Speaker 3: I don't believe that. No way, man, I just don't think that she would do that. That's like so far fetched, like she might be like, Yo, what are you talking about? There's no way she subscribed to the Patreon.

01:07:54
Speaker 1: She definitely ran. You know this is this is just gonna be a funny segment because this is just how like corny. Do are random? Hope all as well? No, you don't. You don't even hope, and you're living in your purpose? I thought you about say living your dreams? Oh should I do that in today? I hope you're living your dreams. I hope you're dreams. I'm gonna try and sound better and say, I hope you're living within your purpose. Living with your purpose is crazy. I hope you found your dreams. Listen, man, Kendrick told us we got Tom Sure. I don't think that's that girl, though, Bro, I really don't. I can't see that. Did you happen to call into the voicemail segment no of our podcast?

01:08:42
Speaker 5: No?

01:08:42
Speaker 1: Man, No, I'm guaranteeing you that's not her. I guarantee you.

01:08:46
Speaker 2: And this is and why fuck with this girl so much as she's such an asshole, she's even if she did call in, she's gonna lie and clown me and be like, yo, you're trying to fuck again, Like, no, I didn't. This is your this is your way to reconnect. Yeah, because this is up there with like, tell your mom I said Happy Thanksgiving?

01:09:04
Speaker 3: When it takes Did you call into my podcast? That's definitely not that girl? That's not even who I was thinking. Did she respond? No, I just sent it.

01:09:15
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So what's what's your advice to not her? Yes, just let it go. I'll try to be objective. I mean, if he's.

01:09:27
Speaker 2: If he's that close and you've been active in what you want to do here, I just let the shit go. It's clear that he doesn't he don't want that, and just come home. Yeah, man, it stop, man, because we don't even know if that's the same person. Man, stop, bro, just cut it out. But that's not okay, but no, it's it's says anonymous. I was trying to find the email. Okay, but it's completely anonymous.

01:09:51
Speaker 1: And you know what email is? Crazy? Do you remember emails like off the top?

01:09:57
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes when you get block you got to email them. Well that is true, but why I'm not bugging? His peage also caught it and was like, nah, this sounds familiar.

01:10:05
Speaker 1: I don't think that's her. I don't think that's her.

01:10:09
Speaker 2: All right, well if not, sorry, we gave no advice. This was just more of a nope, we did. We gave advice.

01:10:15
Speaker 1: You know where home is at. Yeah, so those are always open.

01:10:18
Speaker 2: That's why you're calling him. She trying to get back. Thank you for supporting the podcast.

01:10:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. We appreciate that for sure. See you look at that even with my old joints still supporting my dreams. Yeah, that means your good guy. We did nothing bad. Yeah, we were cool. That's that's why pays not the end bad. Oh yeah, relationship there, that's the homie.

01:10:39
Speaker 2: Just you know, just how grew with mother. You're change blowing father, You're changed in a relationship. So you know, just got to get your thumbs up and hope everyone's living within their purpose. Yeah, next voice mail.

01:10:55
Speaker 4: All right, I'm trying to make this fast. Right.

01:10:57
Speaker 5: So I met this girl when I was nineteen and she was eight. I'm twenty two now she's twenty. Wife, all right, met her that summer, went on one date and then she went off to school.

01:11:05
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry that I stop this real quick and keep all this speech. She just replied same to you.

01:11:15
Speaker 1: No, I didn't. But why do you ask? So?

01:11:17
Speaker 3: I told you that's not her, it's not her. Man, I told you that that's not her. Trust me, that's not her. It's not bro.

01:11:26
Speaker 5: No that.

01:11:28
Speaker 2: Maybe we should reconnect them. Maybe that was a great So don'ts a joke, please though.

01:11:33
Speaker 4: Kept in contact.

01:11:34
Speaker 5: Right that next summer in twenty twenty two, we went on like twelve thirteen dates, right, I keep in mind we never kissed on no sex, none of that, because I mean we liked but we want to.

01:11:44
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have twelve thirteen days and y'all didn't kiss. She don't like you? What girl, are you gonna go out on a date with twelve times and not get a kiss? Twelve times? Twelve dates? We lived together.

01:12:01
Speaker 3: Twelve dates with somebody and you don't kiss them. That ain't no chemist, just no sexual.

01:12:06
Speaker 1: You are saved as food. Yeah, twelve dates?

01:12:09
Speaker 4: Are you going?

01:12:10
Speaker 1: Twelve dates?

01:12:10
Speaker 4: Yo?

01:12:11
Speaker 2: We have like you have your toothbrush in my crib at that point. Twelve dates, I'm more inside of one, but I feel all right, I'm just.

01:12:18
Speaker 4: Trying to make this fast. Right.

01:12:19
Speaker 5: So I met this girl when I was nineteen and she was eighteen. I'm twenty two now she's twenty one, all right, met her that summer, went on one date and then she went off to school. But it was great. So we kept in contact. Right that next summer in twenty twenty two, we went on like twelve thirteen dates.

01:12:33
Speaker 4: Right.

01:12:33
Speaker 5: I keep in mind we never kissed, on no sex, none of that, because I mean, we liked each other, but we want to, you know, complicate shit. So it's just, hey, you're gonna keep you know, going out having fun, all right?

01:12:43
Speaker 4: Cool?

01:12:44
Speaker 1: Want to you would have beat the first date if she lets you, Like we were talking about fail. We didn't want to complicate going on thirteen dates and not wanting to complicate that. I want my shit to be wild complicated. It's complicated now while we're on thirteenth and we ain't kiss yet. It's very complicated.

01:12:59
Speaker 5: Back home, I don't see her because I'm in a relationship at this point, all right, cool, don't see her now that I'm out of it. I saw her in August and we finally like really confessd like, you know, like what's up between us?

01:13:13
Speaker 4: And we was on the same page. It's like, all right, cool, we both like each other. Great U. And then we went out one more.

01:13:19
Speaker 5: Time before she went off again, and this time we finally at least broke like the kiss barrier.

01:13:24
Speaker 4: You know, we racing that, all right, cool. So now we have somewhat of an understanding.

01:13:30
Speaker 5: When she graduates in May and comes home to Atlanta, we'll see what happens.

01:13:34
Speaker 4: I told her, I'm not expecting nothing. We'll just you know, we'll just try it out and see. Right.

01:13:38
Speaker 5: So it's been a great little three year, long time coming slow burn ass story. And I only have a question. I just want to say, fuck y'all niggas, because on the recent Patron episode, y'all mentioned it made that shit sound insane.

01:13:53
Speaker 4: That's where she goes. So like I was just like, wait, what you mean that? I just didn't. I didn't ask for a stomach ache, so.

01:14:02
Speaker 1: I can assure you that college she didn't go on one date. He said, Yo, I don't want no advice.

01:14:09
Speaker 3: I just want to say, fuck y'all, fam you went on thirteen days with this girl, got your first kiss on the sixteenth date.

01:14:20
Speaker 1: And then then brought up to college that she went to on our Patreon of like, yo, go down over there.

01:14:27
Speaker 3: I could guarantee you hold me that eight when you taking her out and you ain't getting no kisses.

01:14:31
Speaker 1: Guess what, she going right back to her campus and she kisses somebody else.

01:14:35
Speaker 4: Man.

01:14:35
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, she's swiping for him to get into the cafeteria.

01:14:37
Speaker 3: That's a fact. That's a fact, homie. He's a friend, he's she probably likes him, and you know he's a friend. Like she's not trying to trying to. I guess take it deal with him.

01:14:47
Speaker 1: He's you know, guys in the South like settled down early and care about Wait was that the end of it?

01:14:53
Speaker 4: Yeah?

01:14:53
Speaker 1: Just oh he just had off.

01:14:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, ended that one thirty. Okay, guys in the South want to settle down early and all that shit. I will say this if it does work out, when she comes back in May. Just try to keep out of your head her college career if that's your queen and you guys waited, and that's a beautiful story. I love that it sounds. Just just know that that maybe maybe it wasn't her style. And then in the term of you know, when she was away at school, like she's your queen now, bro, you got.

01:15:27
Speaker 3: Her press the delete button on all of her like her college years, like just when it was dating, taking to eat and all.

01:15:34
Speaker 2: Of that, like, and you know when she does go to her reunion in five years and it's like, oh, babe, come with me and want you to meet on my college friends and you just start noticing ship.

01:15:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, just hold it down, just hold it down. Signed up for this, Yeah, he said, fuck y'all man, because y'all mentioned.

01:15:52
Speaker 2: And then when like one of her male friends is like, oh, like when y'all meet and you say before college, and then he start adding it up and goes.

01:16:01
Speaker 1: Hmmmmm, let's hold it down. Yeah, when he started doing the math.

01:16:06
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he said that they had the conversation and they're on the same page now they both like each other. So he was also in a relationship though, so is he. He said he was after like their thirty Oh yeah, he got out of and now now they're single.

01:16:17
Speaker 1: So she was she was never not sing.

01:16:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was never not single. She had somebody at the at the at the the dorms in the state. Yea had the dorms wait for her to get back. So call us back and let us know if y'all, you know, finally smacked some sugar again, if you smacked her ass.

01:16:32
Speaker 2: I don't know, And I feel like college bodies don't count. Shit, Come on, they count. I'm thirty four, I know, I know.

01:16:39
Speaker 1: Hold you yourself.

01:16:42
Speaker 2: You're dating a chick on age. There's no way you could be like, I wonder what she didn't got it? Yeah, it was a long time.

01:16:47
Speaker 1: You not all right. First of all, you're not saying like if the water polo team ran through her.

01:16:51
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, okay, I'm just saying, like, of course there's a line.

01:16:57
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, that's all. That's all I was asking.

01:16:59
Speaker 2: That's all I was because you please, I hope the offensive line didn't run through Yeah.

01:17:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as we keeping in perspective, like there are certain things when you never overlooking, you never.

01:17:11
Speaker 1: Caught somebodies in the four years you were in college. Yeah yeah, I mean we know that. That's come on, I get that part. But if I'm just I'm not going to reunion.

01:17:18
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, if it's like the same guys that were the same you know, lettermans have the same story about you and it's like, uh yeah, I can't really take her too serious.

01:17:29
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm glad you graduated.

01:17:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you walk into that ten year reunion and they're like, damn, you settled down and you're sitting there like why why wouldn't she settle that?

01:17:39
Speaker 1: Why is that weird? Do you she wasn't always settled? Yeah? I met her quite settled.

01:17:45
Speaker 3: I don't understand what of respect me when I met her, like, uh not when I was in school.

01:17:51
Speaker 1: We got a nickname for her. I think now we need a settlement. Yeah yeah, that's a fact.

01:17:56
Speaker 3: But yeah, call us back and let us know if the relationship you know, went to is he even at first bad? Yeah, he got a kiss, So let us know if y'all made it to second base, I'm rooting for them. Date number twenty seven.

01:18:07
Speaker 1: We'll be in Atlanta in November. Yes, tickets available now. Newroryomal dot com.

01:18:13
Speaker 3: We will be in Toronto October seventeenth, Atlanta November twenty second, and then in New York City at the Gramm Seat Theater December thirteenth and December fourteenth.

01:18:21
Speaker 2: That's around Thanksgiving time. Maybe she'll come home for Thanksgiving and he could bring her to the show and we could like talk to them on stage.

01:18:28
Speaker 1: That'll be five, Yeah, that'll be date number what fifteen? Yeah, it's all for X.

01:18:39
Speaker 3: I'm making him kiss in front of us. Fuck that you gonna get You're gonna give him some sugar in front of me. This man then took you on nineteen dates and he ain't get a kiss.

01:18:48
Speaker 1: I mean, if the show goes good, maybe he'll be able to touch your teddy that night. Who knows. Oh man, man, that's too fast. That's gonna take another twelve dates. What do you consider the basis? So first bases her mouth, that's the kids. What you got to add more context to that? I said the kiss, that's that's that's the kiss, her mouth being first, baby, it is ain't on the second base. The fuck is wrong with you? That's a home run in the park whole. Yeah, that's a grand slap. She lets you throw it in her cake, doesn't chris her mouth? Being first base, it's fucking crazy, you fucking slut. I met the kiss man, that ain't on me. A third is crazy because what's home at that point? Pegging? Holy ship? Oh man?

01:19:47
Speaker 2: All right, so first base would be kissing and making out kiss it like I never understood the basis.

01:19:52
Speaker 1: And the first base is a kiss. Second base is like hand, a hand action grabbing the boobs. You know that second. Third is when you start, at least, you know, playing with the playing with the box a little bit.

01:20:06
Speaker 2: That wouldn't be second base second playing with the box, damn yeah, because I thought third was like head and then home run.

01:20:14
Speaker 1: Was fucking third is when you head? Is when you steal third. That's still in third week.

01:20:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know when then he got in the pickle in sand lot. That's when you get your ass left if you out do the pickle.

01:20:37
Speaker 1: Oh man, yo, oh ship, that's what James Earl Jones was one. Oh my god, rest the past. James Earl Jones, my god, when we are knocked on his door, yo, shut up. He was blind, bro. They was scared. He had the dog back there it was a fucking they were scared of the dog. He thought it was a killer. Not get that kid back of the house, like there was probably a front door like that was on the street side. You're trying to ruin American classics. But it shut up, bro, didn't they already do Say a Lot to and ruin it? Hope I boycott it. I definitely didn't watch that shit. I didn't see that. If they did, I definitely didn't watch Say a Lot too, I'm not watching that. There wasn't they put like a fucking dalmation on the front. Oh yeah, see, I'm good. I didn't watch that progressive bullshit.

01:21:24
Speaker 4: I'm cool.

01:21:25
Speaker 1: I don't know how those two things died together whatsoever. But this was fun.

01:21:29
Speaker 3: I had a great time. Uh So the next time y'all hears thy London.

01:21:35
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.

01:21:36
Speaker 3: First of all, thank the amazing show ever, thank you everybody that came out to the London Show. We appreciate y'all, We love y'all. We will we will be back soon. But yeah, thank you to London Podcast Studio. Thank you to Cod for welcoming us while we're here, showing us love, and thank you everybody in London. Man, it was it was great. It was a good time, great weather. The weather held up this time for us. And by the time y'all hear us and seeing us, we will be back in New York City.

01:22:04
Speaker 1: Yeah.

01:22:04
Speaker 3: So let's let's head home, man, bring us on the home nervous. Don't touch my ass though, but just bring us home. You're not Benny the Jet.

01:22:13
Speaker 1: That's why.

01:22:15
Speaker 2: That was his name, right, Yeah, you ain't put on the Chris Chucks just to outrun a dog for no reason. Oh man, who really thinks Babe Ruth signed.

01:22:27
Speaker 1: At that ball?

01:22:29
Speaker 4: Yo?

01:22:29
Speaker 3: Stop man, stop you always get weird and start ruining the classics for us.

01:22:33
Speaker 1: Man, I mean he was an awful step father to begin with.

01:22:39
Speaker 4: What is

01:22:42
Speaker 1: No worry now