Ken Rosenthal on Trade Talk Chaos

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Speaker 1: But let's get right to the news about the Mets. Can they pick up Gregory Soto for their bullpen? What else do you know about, not just this, but what else the Mets could be doing after this?

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Speaker 2: They want more as far as the bullpen is concerned. And Will Salmon and the Athletic noted a few weeks ago, I believe it was that teams look at their young pitching, their prospect pitching pretty favorably, and they have guys that they can move. They really rebuilt their system well, so they're in good position to do not just a deal like this with Soto, but other deals for other relievers if that's what they want to do.

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Speaker 3: Is the value out there for the Mets to say we want more of We talked about it earlier, more of a Dennis Santana type than say they're going to get outbid for a Emmanuel class A a bednark because they already have a closer.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question, and always Eric, you know this too, with closers and late inning guys. The psychology of going from the ninth inning to the eighth inning, as certain pitchers would that you mentioned, that's always an issue. So maybe a Santana for them makes more sense. At the same time, I believe Edward Diaz has an opt out after this year, so a closer with control beyond this year would also be useful. But you have to worry about how he's going to react and not pitching the ninth, especially if he's a guy who is not signed. Now class is signed signed cheaply, so it wouldn't be as much of an issue with him. It would be more the pride factor. But I don't know the class is even getting moved.

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Speaker 3: What about the other needs for them? We heard third base, We heard centerfield for the Mets, which is more of a priority because they have Vientos, because they have Tyrone Taylor. You know they have options. Is there a priority there for the Mets?

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Speaker 2: It would seem to me centerfield is more the priority, and third base, as you mentioned, it's Fianto's beatty Mauricio. Now those guys are available to and possibly the Mets trade one of them to do something else, But in my view that position they can continue patching together. Is an ideal. No, but it's somewhere where you want to give some guys a little bit of time. Now you can argue if you're a Mets fan, you probably would argue those guys have all gotten their chances, let's move on. But centerfield, to me, that's something that they've been focused on, and a guy like Harrison Bader, who they had before, would make sense. Luis Robert Jr. Is someone that they've talked about, so I can see them going any number of ways on both. They could do a third baseman. I just don't see it as important as perhaps the outfielder.

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Speaker 1: And lastly, on this trade, let's hit the Orioles side of the equation. Can zero surprise here. They're going to unload any player that's in this type of position right a free agent after this year, and maybe even if there's a.

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Speaker 4: Year and a half of control, depending on the player.

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Speaker 2: No question. And Scott, it's interesting that we're a week out here, or almost a week out and this has started for them, and it had to start. You have so many guys on expiring contracts, from effun and Chicano to now Domingez, Ryan O'Hearn and Cedric Mullens Junior. All of these guys plus more that you can't just wait until the last day and then pull the trigger. All of a sudden No, you've got to go somewhat in sequence. I can't say that they have it all planned out. We're gonna trade Mullins on Tuesday, O hear, and on Wednesday. No, But you have to get the ball rolling, and they did with this trade.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: You wrote a great article about the Padres I just read it this morning, about the urgency of AJ Preller. He's always urgent and you even said that in your article. Can you give us a synopsis of how AJ Pereller will attack the trade deadline differently or could attack it differently than other gms do that are in different situations than he's in.

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Speaker 2: Well, the premise of it, Eric, as you mentioned, is that he's always in an urgent position. So when I've heard from other executives in the last couple of weeks, well, they've got to do something this year because they're gonna lose King, and they're gonna lose Cease and they lose Suarez the free agency. All of that is possible for sure, But when is AJ Preller not operated like that? And I know his contracts up next year, and you can make the case, well he might be trying to get a new contract, But again, he always operates the same way. So he's going to try to do some things now he's identified what he wants one or two bats. They also could look for bullpen help because their guys have thrown an awful lot as good as they are, and if they trade cease, which is possible, then they would need some kind of backfill in the rotation at the very least. So if you ask me what aj Preller is going to do, I have no earthly idea. If you ask me, is he going to be busy? Yes, I would expect to be busy, perhaps buying and selling, just buying. I don't know. But this is a guy who, unlike some of his peers, not all, but some, is not worried about so much what if the models look like and what the surplus value is going to be. He routinely goes for it. Now, it doesn't always work, we know that, and hasn't always worked with the free agents. Yes, of course, when you fire as constantly as he fires, you're gonna miss sometimes. It's just the nature of baseball. It's the nature in every aspect of this game, from players to front office people to media. No one is always right But what I appreciate about him, and what I believe fan should appreciate is at least this guy takes a shot. He doesn't sit there and worry and talk himself out of things. He tucks himself into things.

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Speaker 3: As a Padres fan, do they have to look at it like a ledger sheet, say, okay, we get rid of cease. That's seven million dollars on this side of the ledger he could spend this, or because like you said, we don't know about the financial situation. There was a lot of drama early with the family. Is it if you're a Padres fan, can you look at it that way and say, man, if we could just drop this guy's contract, we could pick up this Or is it not going to be a dollar for dollar ledger or could it go up higher?

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Speaker 2: We don't know the answer to that, And clearly they have had some different financial restrictions in recent years since the passing of Peter Seidler that they didn't before. And they're in a funny spot with the luxury tax. They're way over the first threshold, they're a little bit over the second threshold. Now do they want to get under the second threshold? I don't know that that matters so much to them. But money isn't always It's always a concern with every team, So I would imagine there's some of that coming into play here. For instance, they can't simply add twenty million dollars a payroll. Probably, but I don't know if it's exactly as you said, Eric, where if you're taking here, you've got to subtract there. I don't know exactly how it's going to work. They might they might be in a situation where they compile what they're going to do, what would they want to do, and then take it to ownership, and ownership says yeah or nay.

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Speaker 1: Right, Hey, let's always remember it this time of year. The gms are working their butts off, but then everything has to get approved. They have a boss, they're the agent for the boss, which is the owner, and money is getting moved to mid season.

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Speaker 4: They don't plan that way.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, let's work on a team that has been difficult with budgeting the last few years for Jerry Depoto, and that's the other big deal to hit. Josh Naylor is acquired. To me, he seems like a Depoto dream. He makes contact, he's a gamer, he's got some pop. What did you think of this move for the Mariners and potentially what's next for them?

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Speaker 2: I liked it for the Mariners, and right away after the trade was made, you saw there be people basically reporting that they're not done, and they're also in the mix for Ajohano Suarez. If they got both those guys, that theoretically should fix their offense, even though where Seattle is a more difficult place to hit than Arizona. I get it all that, but Suarez would be a coup, no doubt, especially with the Yankees and Cubs and other teams interested. But I did like this move, and to Poto two because he has multiple things to do. You also might want bullpen help. Can't wait till the last day and do everything. So he got a jumpstart of the market, just as he did last year with the Rose Arena. And I am quite sure they have a lot of balls in play, a lot of balls in the air, and they're not done. They can't be done.

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Speaker 3: Let's stick with the Diamondbacks here. They got rid of Naylor. Obviously, Heno Suarez is going to be maybe a bidding war, we assume, because everybody seems to need a third basement that has thirty five dingers thirty five plus. But is there is there a case where the Diamondbacks offload more players than any other team because of all their expiring contracts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And when I reported yesterday that they were going to sell, what I was told was, we don't know how far we're gonna go. So could they unload five or six guys? Yes, they could. I do not expect them to trade Gowen and Kelly. I expected to trade Gowan or Kelly. Now beyond that, and beyond Suarez, you're talking about Randall Gritchik, you're talking about Shelby Miller possibly if he gets back healthy, they can do still a number of things. I don't know that they'll go beyond the expiring contracts because they're going to want to compete next year. But they're in a situation right now. They know that this season, mostly because of injuries, is all but lost. They've got this incredibly dynamic offense, or had it with Josh Naylor involved. And could they be a team that's quite active. Yes, I expect the Orioles to make the most trades. Pittsburgh we're not sure about yet. But Arizona is going to make multiple deals as.

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Speaker 3: Well, But why not both? Why not both Merrill Kelly and Zach Gallen.

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Speaker 2: Eric mostly because you've got to get through the season and they're not going to have enough pitching to get through the season if they trade both. Now, could they do it? Might they get pushed enough to where they would do it, and then you figure out the rest of the season. Yes, But it's also not a group there. And this goes for the owner, Ken Kendrick, the general manager Mike Haysen, and everyone in that front office that likes to lose one hundred games. They've done that. Now They're not going to lose one hundred this year obviously, but you know what I'm saying, They don't want to just struggle through the last two months. And with Kelly, he might be in more demand right now, even though he's older than Goalon. I'm not sure how that dynamics playing out. Kelly, in my view, they would have a chance to resign. They give him a qualifying offer most likely, and then he's been a guy, granted that has accepted two below market deals to sign with Arizona, to stay with Arizona, but he's comfortable there and with the right deal, perhaps he would stay. He's going to be thirty seven next season, if I'm not mistaken, So that might be another reason too. You know this, Eric, once you trade a player becomes that much harder to get him back.

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Speaker 4: It's still surprising to me.

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Speaker 1: Ken if they get an offer that makes sense and that's better than what they would get for a comp pick right, and it's fifty million dollars or more, I think they'd get after the first round. If it's less, they would get it after the second round, which starts to not matter as much. Do you really think that if they get solid offers for both of them. Kelly's got a great track history in the playoffs a couple of years ago, and I think some teams probably figure they can fix Gallon, that they would deal both and maybe try and get someone else to fill the innings down the stretch, whether it's a veteran or one of the young guys that they pick up and they try out.

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Speaker 2: Certainly could do that. And I can't recall the exact circumstance, Scott, but they've done this before. I believe they traded someone. Maybe it was Greanky. I think it was Granky. The year they traded in they backfilled with Mike Leak, So yes, of course they could do that. But standing is that is not their initial intention. Now, as you guys know, we're in the final days here, teams are going to push for starting pitching. So if they get pushed on both, and if they crossed the threshold that they have set for both, of course they will do the trades and worry about the rest later. But it seems that their inclination is not to do that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've got one more, maybe ek one more at the finish line here. Mine is a general question. Have we learned anything about teams on the fences on the fence in the past twenty four to forty eight hours the Angels, perhaps it sounds like the Cardinals will be selling.

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Speaker 4: Have you learned anything about teams like that.

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Speaker 2: The Diamondbacks were the first domino, and certainly we learned yesterday and saw yesterday that they were going to sell. The Cardinals are certainly leaning in that direction and are expected to sell as well. Kansas City on the fence, Tampa Bay on the fence, A lot of teams still on the fence. I would expect Minnesota they're going to sell their expiring contract guys at the very least. But this weekend will be a big weekend from number of teams, and after this weekend we will similarly have some more clarity on just who's in and out. Kansas City is a fascinating one to me. They don't want to sell, They want to compete, They want to contend. They feel like they've built a good team and all this talk of logo is fine, but they're not as into it from what I understand as the rest of the world is. So that's one team to watch for sure.

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Speaker 3: Ken, I have a benefit of not needing to troll you on Twitter. I can ask your questions right here. You said about the Blue Jays earlier needing a starting pitcher because of Max Sure's are getting older, and I think you had mentioned Bassett's contract is up. There is there really more of a need for starting pitching with the Jays than that relief pitching role or maybe some slug even if Santan Derek comes back.

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Speaker 2: For our show's coming back first, we don't know about Santan Derek. They certainly need bullpen help because of the injuries that they've incurred in the bullpen in recent weeks. Really all season a starter. I don't know that it's a necessity, but you're talking about relying on Max Scherzer, who, let's face it, has been on the injury list quite a bit in recent years. Talking about relying on Eric Louer, who has been tremendous for them, but you don't know for sure if he's going to be able to sustain it the whole season. So you're not only getting a person in place for next year if you get that controllable starter, but you're also reinforcing what you have for this year. And I want to address some complaints from Blue Jays fans yesterday because of fair territory focusing on the Yankees' poor performance Wednesday night instead of praising the Jays. We've been praising the Jays. The Jays are doing great. We all love what the Jays are doing. The focus after four eras and three innings the other night, twelve in ten games against the Blue Jays, that was going to be the Yankees. That's how the world works, folks.

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Speaker 1: Well said you want praise for the Jays. Ken literally just gave it again. There is praise for the Jay's It is on the record.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Ken.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're covering this team a ton this year, not as much last year because they weren't good. So we'll talk much more about the Jays, including next week. We'll see you next week on Monday on Fair Territory. Thanks guys, thank you. That's Ken Rosenthal and there's the show promo for you, Fair Territory. Yesterday's episode is full of notes and information. We tried to get to other things because yesterday's show covered a lot from Ken's notes column and what he had been hearing, so tried to get to some other things today. But make sure you backtrack for that one and then catch Ken live. It's going to be a well attended show on Monday morning. Cody, good to see you, dude. Covering the team for the Athletic covering the Detroit Tigers and Tiger Territory for US. So, Cody, I'm going to start with this one because this has been going on since the last week of the first half of the season.

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Speaker 4: Are the Tigers.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, they're not okay right now. They've lost ten of eleven if you count the All Star break. They have one win in the past sixteen days and they haven't just been losing, They've been losing in pretty ugly fashion. Lack of hitting, bullpen has actually been bad going back to the start of June. Starting pitching has not been great. In their series in Pittsburgh, we saw probably the sloppiest play we've seen from the Tigers. So are they okay? I think that's a harder question to answer, right. How do you ever navigate the ups and downs of a major league season? How do you know when to react, when to really kind of freak out about something. I think there's a lot of evidence that suggests the Tigers are a good team, not just the way they started this season, but look at how they ended last year. Look at their run differential, which is still a pretty good predictive stat. I think they're going to be able to snap out of this. But this seems to keep happening night after night, and it does have to stop eventually, so really bad stretch of baseball for the Tigers. It's got in soon, or we could do these the tenor of these conversations could start changing.

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Speaker 3: Are we starting to see a Minnesota Tigers collapse last year? I know that maybe too soon, maybe too soon, But the one thing that you said. You know, you're seeing it in a lot of like different ways. The bullpen, you know, there's different things. To me, it's the hitting. Is there a concern in Detroit about going in Granted you go into Pittsburgh they have good pitching, they have really good pitching, and they got they got shell ACKed in the box. To me, is this is this lack of hitting more of a regression to the mean because of some of these guys who had breakout years. To talk about Spencer Torkelsen was gonna go to Triple A, you talk about Zach McKinstry, everybody, you know, all these storylines that built the Tigers offense early. Now are they coming back down or is it just a blip in a radar?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's definitely some level of regression. I felt as though the Tigers overachieved offensively in the first half. It's not to say they're a bad offense, but they finished the first half. Is the second best run scoring lineup in the American League. That's a pretty lofty standard. And yeah, Zach McKinstry, Hovey Bayas, some of those guys, pretty reasonable to expect regression now, Spencer Torgelsen is actually still raking, but Riley Green, who's carried this lineup, has been a slump. Kerry Carpenter, who's one of their most important hitters, is on the injured list. Some of these guys you got back from the il Matt Vierling, Parker Meadows, you were kind of expecting some contributions. They've been rusty, They've been off to very slow starts. I think that's still going to be a big deal for the Tigers in the second half. If mckinstree slumps, if Hovey Bayaz slumps, if a couple other guys, even Gla Torres, who's been fantastic, is he gonna have a three to seventy three eighty OBP the rest of the way. I don't know that's a high bar. They need the likes of Meadows, Veerling some of these other guys to step up and carry some of the load here, whereas right now it seems like almost every hitter in this order is going through a little bit of something. Towerklsen has been one of the brighter spots actually, and no one else has stepped up to carry that load. I do think it's fair to worry, how good is this offense? Is this an average offense? I think it's probably realistically more of an average offense than the elite type of offense they played like in the first half.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's get the rumors and needs. The trade deadline is coming up, and no better time to struggle and say, well, wait a minute, I didn't notice this. I didn't notice we had this problem, and now we need to fill it. Where do you see and where do you hear that the moves are going to come for the Tigers in the next few days.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, we just talked about the offense. My sense right now after a couple of conversations, not a lot of upgrades being going on there. I know people like to mention them in connection with Iohanio Suarez. The fit makes sense one paper, I'm told the Tigers are not closing the door. But not closing the door seems a lot different than what the Mariners are saying, which is that it's their top priority. Now, there's always a little bit of posturing at the trade deadline, but I don't get the sense the Tigers want to get in a bidding war or ship any major prospects at this deadline. They're not going to trade any of their top one hundred type guys. Max Clerk's going nowhere, Kevin mcgonagall's going nowhere. Even if you get into that mid tier of prospects. Look, the Tigers are one of these modern front offices that really likes to hoard their talent, that kind of covets their prospects. I just don't see a big splash. Could they find another hitter, platoon type bats upgrade. Maybe? My sense is that their early efforts at the on the trade market center around center on their relief market. This team clearly needs bullpen help. Since the start of June, their bullpen era is over five. They have the worst swing and miss rate from the bullpen in the entire American League. Now again, are they gonna go get Ryan Helsley? Are they gonna go get Emmanuel class A? I'm not sure. I think Hellsley might be on their radar, don't. I'm not expecting an in division trade for Duran or class A. This is also the Tigers. They like to be creative. They always seem to have something up their sleeve that no one else is thinking about. I wouldn't be shocked if they identify a couple lesser names to bring in to come help this bullpen. They're already talking about the internal guys. They have some pitchers in TRIPAA they think can help them. They're banking on internal improvements and a couple of the right editions they hope that can fortify a bullpen that desperately needs help.

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Speaker 3: Can that bullpen add a certain type of picture so when fans look at it and they go, we we get tons of swing and miss out of the bullpen. To me, you don't even You're not even like barking down the door of Johan Duran. You're not even looking at guys that don't have a k per nine, you know, over nine or ten. Is there a certain type of pitcher that matches like the Mets. The Mets just needed another lefty they got Greg Risoto. Is there something that matches for that bullpen that would couple well with the Tommy Kinleys of the world.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think you just nailed it.

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Speaker 2: Eric.

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Speaker 5: It's got to be someone who misses bats. At least in my opinion, you can't have the worst swinging miss rate in the American League from your bullpen. And you know, there's a correlation between generating swinging miss and winning in the playoffs. So maybe that's not the top end type closer guy. But there are other pitchers out there who miss a lot of bats. Read Detmer's is one name who comes to mind. Like you can keep going down the list. I think you're right. It needs to be someone who can punch nine ten eleven guys per nine innings. But keep in mind, the Tigers also really value pitchers who limit walks. Now, finding a guy who can do both one of the harder things to do out there. I think they're gonna want a high swing and misrate without sacrificing a ton of free passes. That's the type of profile I'm looking for.

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Speaker 3: Right here, right here, Cody, For everybody listening, money is their payroll flexibility for the Tiger's front office to get these needs done, whether it's whether it's that big, big arm or like you said, kind of middle tier arms, like a Red Detmers type of thing. Do they have the cash to do it? Because again, there's a team that offered Alex Bregman. I forget how many hundred million.

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I think I don't think money should be a real concern for the Tigers. They're not close to the luxury tax. They were clearly willing to spend a little more this past offseason. Again, I don't know that they're going to be going after anyone with a huge salary to begin with. That's I think that has a lot more to do with not willing, not being willing to give up their farm system than it does spending money. I don't think cash should be any object for the Tigers at this point.

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Speaker 3: Now going into the postseason. Last year they had Trek Scoubel and that's about it. Is there a need to maybe four to five starting pitching spot to just get the rest of the starting pitchers healthy and ready to go for the postseason. I get it. You're gonna have Flaherty, You're gonna have Reeslsen, You're gonna have Terrek Scooble. I'm not talking about somebody bumping out that that main line, but maybe that fourth or fifth starter to fill some of this role until the postseason.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Tigers seem to like what they have internally for the fourth guy, the fifth guy, cater Montero's actually been okay for them this year. Saw your Gibson Longs hurt right now, but they expect him to come back. They signed was A Erkidi, which is a name a lot of people haven't heard in a while. This offseason, he's rehabbing from surgery. They think he's gonna come back and pitch in August September and be able to start games for them. They just called up Troy Melton, who's a really interesting young guy. Can throw a hundred, gets a ton of swing and miss. He could start, He could move to the pin if need be later in the year. I think that's their plan for the fourth fifth spots. My personal question, like is they're married and going and getting a real guy, like a guy who can start game two of a playoff series. I seem to want that more than a lot of people, and I understand a starters are expensive. Be in the playoffs, you could argue starting pitching matters less than ever. The Tigers beat the Astros in the playoffs and took the Guardians to five last year based on mixing and matching, based on pitching chaos. You can do that in the postseason. But I'd feel a little bit better having a guy you can really count on, maybe a Merrill Kelly type. I'm told the Tigers don't really love Sandy al Contra or Zach Gallon, but there's some other pretty quality pitchers out there as much as Resoulcing Casey, Maiz Jack Flaherty. Those are all very capable pitchers, but both have been All of them have been a little bit up and down. I don't know that you're trotting any of them out there for Game two of the playoffs in Yankee Stadium and thinking, Okay, these guys can go seven scoreless. Maybe you're not feeling that way with a Merrill Kelly type either. But I personally think there's some rooms upgrade the rotation, but I'm told the Tigers don't necessarily.

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Speaker 4: View that as a real priority.

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Speaker 1: What is the style of Scott Harris now? Getting to know him the last few years he's running the front office for the Tigers. He has done a really nice job the last few years. His team at a magical run last year, they're great up into the last couple weeks this year. What is his style as far as making moves? Yeah, pragmatic is always the word that seems to come up around Scott Harris very much. I think a reflection of like the modern executive.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: He's young, he's polished, he likes his prospects, he believes in calculated risk, finding value on the margins, not necessarily a guy who's going to go chase stars, chase big names. They did go after Bregman harder than a lot of people myself included, thought they would this offseason based on other history. But I don't think Scott Harris is the type of GM who actually sees not that he doesn't see value in the trade deadline, but it's easy for us in the media, for other teams out there to maybe overrate what you can do at the trade deadline. At the end of the day, you're getting I think this is how the Tigers, for an office, views it. You're getting rentals. You were trading parts of your future for rental type players who may or may not perform in a two month window for you, and then in the volatility of the postseason. So yeah, when you think Scott Harris, when you think the Tigers, there's very much a big brain organization. Now they operate a little more like the Rays or maybe the Astros of old. The Astros of old did make some aggressive moves at the deadline, But I don't think that swashbuckling, aggressive style at all describes the Tigers Cody one.

00:27:56
Speaker 4: More for you.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that the lack of competition right now in the division affects things at all for this team? You know, gives a little bit of complacency to the front office and really ownership who controls all of the decision makings. Or do you think they're very aware that they could do damage in the playoffs? The American League in general has not been as strong in my mind as it usually is for this season and last season.

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Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I think you may be onto something there. Right this is not an American league with a superpower. The Tigers have been playing very bad baseball as of late. But who's going to beat them in the playoffs? I mean, there's certainly teams who could, but I don't know that there's anyone. The Tigers are necessarily fearing right now, and they've lost ten of eleven and they still lead the ale Central by eight games now. They were up by fifteen games not all that long ago. Suddenly the Guardians are just close enough to be within shouting distance again. But I think maybe that plays a role. I do wonder would the calculus be any different if the Tigers were only up by one or two games in their division. There's a real thought that maybe there's more value in acquiring players to get you to the playoffs, because once you're in the playoffs, anything can happen. The Tigers, it would take a pretty historic collapse at this point to miss the postseason. I think they still feel good about the core group they have stacking up against anyone else in the American League. So a little bit of an interesting discussion there. I don't think i'd call it complacency, but I don't think that you know, when you look and you're up eight games in the standings, that's definitely not making anyone more urgent in that front office.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like this team. I hope they get aggressive.

00:29:39
Speaker 1: You've built up the prospect capital, You've got your time to strike.

00:29:43
Speaker 4: This is the year for it. You've got prime Scooples, Scott.

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Speaker 5: You could be good for the next twenty million years, assuming all these prospects are exactly what you think you're going to be, which is always had happen.

00:29:53
Speaker 4: That never happens. It really doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It's probably the biggest mistake that front offices make is that they think they're going to be good for longer and the window closes sooner, and you always hear it from former execs, But Cody, this was great, dude.

00:30:05
Speaker 4: Great combo with you.

00:30:07
Speaker 1: Tiger Territory is the show that you got to be locked in on with Kieran and Cody. They are dialed on anything that happens, including rumors, plus Austin Jackson for select shows. There's the pretty promo. Cody, thanks for the time, dude. We'll catch us soon. Hopefully we'll talk when the Tigers swing a deal.

00:30:23
Speaker 5: All right, sounds good, Thanks Scott,