300th Episode Livestream: Three Years, One Mission—Preserve and Advance the Classical CCPT Model

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You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr.

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Brenna Hicks,

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your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching.

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So let me

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welcome you first of all.

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I'm so happy to see faces and have a chance to hang out with you on my

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Friday afternoon.

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I know some of you are in completely different parts of the world,

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but

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really glad you're here.

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And I don't know how many of you all were able to attend the last one,

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but

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this will be pretty similar in structure.

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I'll kind of walk you through what we can expect today

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and give you some housekeeping details and then we'll dive in.

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So.

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We are planning,

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let me silence my computer,

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we are planning to be on longer than an hour.

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I want to let you know last one went about 1 hour and a half,

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so please stay as long as you can if you have to hop off,

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hop back on.

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Don't worry about coming in and out.

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I know you all have clients and busy schedules,

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so stay as long as you can and we'll go until.

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We've exhausted the questions and or 2 hours,

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whichever happens first.

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Last call was an hour and a half,

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so we'll see how this one goes,

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but

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I wanted to make you aware that

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tomorrow,

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as a matter of fact,

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is

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the 3rd anniversary of the podcast.

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So tomorrow we hit our 3 year mark.

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We launched on May 17th of 2022.

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So tomorrow is our 3rd year of doing this,

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and this is our 300th episode.

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So I didn't plan that,

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it's just how it worked out,

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which is really cool.

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So I'm going to do a little contest for you all.

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So for those of you that attend this live call today,

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I'm going to give away 3 because it's 3 years,

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300 episodes.

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I'm going to give away 3 30 minute calls with me,

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where you get to talk to me about anything you want for 30 minutes.

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So the way that you get entered into that contest,

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if you would like to have a 30 minute chat with me,

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Zoom call,

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please send me

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your CCPT story.

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So whatever your story is,

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if it's I've been doing it my whole life,

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I just found it.

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This is my 2nd,

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3rd,

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4th career.

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I'm still in grad school.

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I,

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whatever your story is,

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if it's a transformation story,

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if it's a win story,

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if it's a celebration story,

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if it's a struggle story,

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it doesn't matter.

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What's your CCPT story,

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email that to me.

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And I would love to hear where you all have been

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and how you found CCPT and what it means to you.

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So that will just be a way for me to connect

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with each of you personally and by sending me that email,

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you will get entered into the drawing for those 3 30 minute Zoom calls with me.

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The deadline for that is next Friday at midnight,

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so you have a week,

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no rush.

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Please shoot me an email brenna@thekidcounselor.com and let

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me know your CCPT journey and your story.

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And then you'll have a chance to have one of those Zoom calls with me.

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So,

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and I'll,

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I'll bring that up a little bit later because I know

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more people are going to be hopping on as well.

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do we need to say anything else?

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All right,

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so let's dive in to,

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by the way,

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those of you that just hopped on,

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glad you're here.

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Welcome.

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And I want to spend a little bit of time kind of going through.

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This process,

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I want to help you all understand what this journey has been like

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from one listener to thousands,

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and I certainly did not anticipate

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what this podcast was going to become

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and how it was going to grow and what I was

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launching when we did that first episode 3 years ago,

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almost to the day.

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So,

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as I say that,

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I want you to genuinely know how grateful I am,

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how

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I,

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I'm like shocked and surprised in the best way

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at what this has become,

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and so this wouldn't exist without you all.

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So please know

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there's a lot of gratitude and thanks that comes with this 300th episode because

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many,

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actually most podcasts never make it past episode 40.

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That's a statistic that they've studied.

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Most podcasts are dead by the 40th episode.

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And this is 300 and it's only getting bigger and so

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I'm really grateful to each and every one of you.

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So this is a celebration of us.

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I want to make that very known.

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I,

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I think that

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this is very much a collective we

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and yes,

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I'm behind the mic and I'm the one that's putting out episodes,

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you all email me,

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you send me questions,

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you interact,

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you listen faithfully.

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I,

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I wanna,

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I wanna tell you what

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is significant that we just found out yesterday.

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We went back and looked at the first episode so

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that we could see when our first episode was.

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That's how I know it was 3 years ago tomorrow.

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And within the last 30 days,

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the first episode,

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even though we're on episode 300,

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the first episode has been downloaded 700 times

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in the last 30 days.

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So what that tells me is

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there is such a huge community of CCPTs

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that are seeking support and knowledge and training,

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and I'm just so grateful that you all care so deeply

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about the model.

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I'm so grateful that you all care so deeply.

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about adherence to the model

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and that CCPT has hooked you

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the way that it does.

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So this is very much about you all for believing in this model and for caring

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about your work,

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caring about your kids,

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caring about your communities.

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I talk all the time

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the impact that we have.

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ever question

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whether or not our lives make a difference.

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in CCPT with knowing that every single day

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we have impact

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and the influence

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that we're able to have on

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individual kids,

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our communities,

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and largely the world,

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you impact generations when you work with children.

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And the fact that there are so many CCPTs that want to be all in on this,

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and the very first episode,

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I listened to it yesterday just to refresh myself.

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I was like,

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what did I even say on the first episode?

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I don't even remember.

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And it was kind of a vision casting episode,

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so it was just kind of where are we gonna go?

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whatever.

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I listened back to that and I was like,

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oh my gosh,

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from the very beginning I said

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this is gonna be CCPT

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and that's all you're gonna get

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and that's what this is about

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that's polarizing,

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right?

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play therapy is broad and vast and there's a lot of theoretical orientations

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and so to have this kind of following,

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this kind of audience,

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this kind of investment.

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the model and your commitment to it,

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I want this to be a collective celebration for all of

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us because I can't do this if y'all don't listen.

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And if you don't care and if you're not

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invested and you don't want to learn this stuff,

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I don't have any reason to put anything out.

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So thank you,

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huge celebration for everyone.

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And I want to give you a little bit of backstory about how this came to be,

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because I know some of you may know this story,

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but I think most of you actually don't.

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I've been doing my parenting podcast since 2016.

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actually that's another story I'll tell you in a second,

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the parenting podcast was where I,

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I intended to have a podcast.

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I never thought I would have a clinical podcast,

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one for therapists,

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but what ended up happening was I kept getting emails from therapists

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that were listening to the parenting podcast.

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And so one day it just kind of hit me,

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you know,

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like God drops little

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things in my brain

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and I said,

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oh my gosh,

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there are so many therapists that listen to this podcast.

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I doubt there's a CCPT

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podcast for therapists.

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So I did a little perfunctory search and I was like,

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I don't think there's anything about CCPT on a podcast right now.

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And so that was kind of the the beginning of the whole thing.

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let me just throw out a couple of episodes and see if therapists care,

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see if therapists are interested.

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And here's what you all probably don't know,

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even if you know that part.

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I poured

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from 2005 when I started my practice,

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I poured into parents,

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and I really truly believed that was my platform.

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I believed that I was given an opportunity to

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help parents,

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support parents,

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encourage parents,

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teach parents,

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and I poured all of my energy and efforts into parents.

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That's why I had a parenting podcast.

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I had a newsletter.

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I had all kinds of stuff for parents,

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workshops for parents,

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trainings for parents,

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it just never really got traction.

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And it was really defeating.

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To a point where many,

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many times I questioned if I should even keep going.

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When you get no engagement,

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when you get no interaction,

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when you get no emails,

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when you get no sense that it's making any kind of difference,

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it's disheartening,

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and I often felt like I was spinning my wheels needlessly.

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I didn't know to what end.

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I didn't know if I was having any impact,

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and it was really just kind of frustrating if I'm being completely honest.

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And so I had continued with this parenting podcast this whole time,

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not really thinking it was

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doing a whole lot,

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but I was like,

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I've been doing it this long,

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I might as well keep going.

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It was more of a I'm not gonna quit kind of thing than really I wanted to keep going.

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And so

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when I threw out this notion of a therapist podcast.

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And I did my first couple of episodes.

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I had no way to know what this would become

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and so fast,

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faster than I could even prepare for you all.

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You all were banging down my door asking for more and more and more and more,

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more coaching,

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more training,

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more workshops,

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more CEUs,

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a community,

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uh,

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more podcasts.

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And I just,

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I wasn't prepared for you all in the best way.

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It was the most surprising unpreparedness.

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And so that really solidified to me

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that

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the parenting side of it,

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it's important,

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but really where I am and where I should be is with you all.

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And the impact that I know we have collectively

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is

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so much greater

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because I know that

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if you all listen to this podcast,

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let's say you each have 20 kids.

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I know some of you have less,

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some of you had more,

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but let's just average if every one of you has 20 kids.

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Think about the.

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The Venn diagram of that.

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I

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coach you,

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you interact with kids differently.

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Kids go home to their families.

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The families start interacting differently.

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Generational

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spread and breadth of reach,

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and that has been such an incredible thing for me to to watch and to observe,

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and you all have just been in it from the beginning,

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so passionate,

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so hungry,

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so committed.

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And it's been so special and so,

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I hope you know,

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I say it on the podcast all the time,

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but I'm gonna reiterate it again.

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I hope you know how grateful I am.

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This

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This was not

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what I expected.

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And I'm grateful

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More so for kids.

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I was talking to somebody the other day and I said,

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if your hearts don't break for kids,

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I don't know why you do this job.

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If your hearts are not broken,

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for what kids are dealing with

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and the struggles that they have and their family dynamics,

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and their circumstances and what's going on for them right now,

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I don't know how and why you do this job.

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But every day

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That I get

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on a podcast with y'all.

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I know that we're making a difference,

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and I know that kids are better for it.

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And I know that their lives will change,

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their families' lives will change,

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generational cycles will change.

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And that's meaningful

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and it matters,

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and it's easy to get lost

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in the work.

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It's easy to get drained.

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It's easy

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to feel burned out.

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It's easy to have so much going on.

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We feel lonely,

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we feel isolated,

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we feel unsupported.

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We feel untrained.

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We feel like we have no idea what we're doing.

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But we can't lose sight of what matters.

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We can't lose sight of why

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the why is

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kids need us

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kids deserve people that love them.

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Kids deserve people that respect them.

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Kids deserve people that understand them at a developmental level.

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Kids deserve people that unconditionally accept them.

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We provide that for them.

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They don't get it anywhere else.

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Other people in their lives try.

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Other people want that for them.

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But they don't receive that.

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Our relationship with kids and the environment in our playrooms,

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it is the most special,

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unique.

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Moment for kids

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our relationship and our environment it's like nothing that they get anywhere else

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so

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the why is that we

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are focused,

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we're adherent,

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we're purposeful

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because we know what that does for kids we know the outcomes we know the gains

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we know longitudinally what that looks like for them.

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And we know that CCPT works.

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So

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I wanted you to kind of know how I didn't ever see this going in that direction

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and let me go back to what I said I was gonna circle back to.

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Because of you all,

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my parenting podcast

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is more engaged,

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more invested

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and more popular than ever.

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And you wanna know what that tells me all of

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you are referring your clients to the parenting podcast.

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So thank you for that because the traction

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that was always missing with my parenting podcast,

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I have it now because of the therapist podcast.

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So many of you send parents to the parenting

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podcast and I'm getting emails from parents now.

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I'm getting engagement from parents now.

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Many of them start their email with.

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So my child's in play therapy.

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And I know that that is because of you that they're listening to that podcast,

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and believe it or not,

405
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I can't even believe I'm saying this out loud,

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but

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I get more downloads to the parenting podcast than I do to the therapist podcast,

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and it used to be the polar opposite.

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You all used to way out download the parents,

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and now parents are downloading the parenting podcast more than the clinical.

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So this is a tandem effort

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and for those of you that do not know of the parenting podcast,

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for those of you that do not use the parenting podcast in your work,

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it is there for you.

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You absolutely have every permission that I can give.

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Send the link,

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send episodes,

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share information with your parents.

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It is a resource for you.

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I,

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I said before,

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this is a collective we.

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These are not my episodes,

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these are our episodes.

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If you need a parent to understand limit setting,

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send them to the limit setting episode in the parenting podcast.

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There are more than one,

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but

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find one and send it to them.

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Give them

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a playlist,

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send them to the link for the podcast in general.

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There's 2 seasons of the parenting podcast.

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Use that to your advantage.

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If you need to support parents and you need resources to do that,

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please take advantage of the parenting podcast.

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It's yours to use.

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OK,

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so

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I want to circle back to the very first episode,

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what I said,

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and I want to share a little bit about that

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and then we'll move into Q&A in just a second.

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That very first episode when I did kind of the

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vision casting and when where I saw the podcast going.

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I want you to know that

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I'm really proud of 300 episodes ago and I had no idea what this would look like,

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what I shared in the vision and where I thought this was going to go,

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that's exactly where this podcast has been,

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and it's been true

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to what I said.

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It's been consistent

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and the whole purpose of this

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is to preserve and advance

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the pure CCPT model.

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To preserve it,

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why?

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Because it's getting diluted.

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Because it's getting misunderstood,

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it's getting misused,

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it's getting misinterpreted,

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it's getting convoluted,

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it's getting integrated,

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it's getting all kinds of things.

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It's to preserve the pure and true CCPT model #1.

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#2,

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it's to advance it.

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And,

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and I'm not advancing it on my own.

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I'm walking on the,

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in the footsteps and and on the shoulders of giants in the field.

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So,

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but our giants are leaving the field.

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Landreth has retired,

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Bratton has retired.

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Ray has largely retired.

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They're still speaking.

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But

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they are no longer practicing the way that they once were.

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And therefore,

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who is coming along

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in

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their place.

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To

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put CCPT out into

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graduate programs and coursework and textbooks

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and information and the beauty of podcasting

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is that

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it has reach internationally for everybody and it's free and it's accessible.

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You don't have to go to a course,

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you don't have to take a grad cert,

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you don't have to read a book.

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I encourage you to do those things,

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but the podcast is accessible everywhere to everyone.

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So the reach of this has been incredible.

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Such a gift.

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Technology has afforded us that opportunity.

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I have people,

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you should see the map,

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y'all.

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I wish I could show it to you.

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You should see the map of where the listeners are of this podcast.

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It is literally worldwide.

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It is unbelievable to me.

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I mean,

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in this tiniest smallest little countries like you

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you see the name and you're like,

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there's a listener in that country.

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It's unbelievable to me.

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how special it is,

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the reach that this podcast has.

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So be really proud,

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be really

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excited

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about the fact that this model is being preserved and advanced.

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And the more adherent we are and the more you know,

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the more you start to

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do your own evangelism.

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You start to do your own teaching,

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you start to do your own coaching.

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Many of you have many of you have said

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I launched this program at the school.

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I launched this program in my community.

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I'm training teachers now.

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I'm training parents now.

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I'm bringing on supervises now.

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That's how we preserve and advance the model.

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This is not a Brenna

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thing here.

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This is all of us.

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We're preserving and advancing CCPT.

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So I hope that that is inspiring to you.

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I hope it's encouraging to you.

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I'm honored every day that this is what we're doing as a,

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as a group.

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So

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I wanted to just really quickly just share

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that

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I've gotten so many emails.

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I get the benefit of people reaching out to me,

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and I know you all don't,

542
00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:06,150
and sometimes you feel like you're alone

543
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in the the fray.

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I get emails

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weekly,

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sometimes daily

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of transformation stories.

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Where someone says

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I

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was eclectic,

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I was integrative

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I was doing ABA,

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I was doing CBT I was doing

554
00:19:24,839 --> 00:19:27,390
trauma focused EMDR whatever you fill in the blank.

555
00:19:27,439 --> 00:19:28,469
This is my path.

556
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,750
This is where I was.

557
00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:34,739
I've been fully CCPT for fill in the blank amount of time,

558
00:19:35,260 --> 00:19:36,260
sometimes 6 weeks,

559
00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:37,609
sometimes 6 months,

560
00:19:38,020 --> 00:19:38,459
sometimes whatever.

561
00:19:38,540 --> 00:19:39,979
I've been fully CCPT.

562
00:19:40,969 --> 00:19:42,260
Here's what I hear.

563
00:19:44,020 --> 00:19:45,479
I'm finally seeing

564
00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:47,920
positive outcomes that I never saw before.

565
00:19:48,819 --> 00:19:49,760
I hear that all the time.

566
00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:53,910
Once I went fully CCPT I'm finally seeing outcomes,

567
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,540
and I never saw them before.

568
00:19:55,869 --> 00:19:57,229
Here's something else I hear.

569
00:19:57,969 --> 00:20:00,020
I was so frustrated.

570
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,910
I was so disillusioned.

571
00:20:02,079 --> 00:20:03,750
I felt so lost.

572
00:20:04,239 --> 00:20:05,650
My brain was a mess.

573
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,229
I never knew what I was doing.

574
00:20:08,089 --> 00:20:10,890
I have full clarity and focus and purpose now.

575
00:20:12,540 --> 00:20:13,949
Something else I hear all the time.

576
00:20:14,959 --> 00:20:15,400
I,

577
00:20:15,410 --> 00:20:15,979
I have

578
00:20:16,189 --> 00:20:19,310
parents that are actually finishing the course of treatment with me now.

579
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,459
I had so high levels of attrition.

580
00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:24,989
Parents would only stick with me for 8 weeks,

581
00:20:25,069 --> 00:20:25,560
10 weeks,

582
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,459
12 weeks,

583
00:20:26,750 --> 00:20:29,979
and I was never able to see everything all the way through.

584
00:20:30,589 --> 00:20:32,739
And now that I'm fully adherent to the model,

585
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:35,500
parents are sticking it out with me and we're

586
00:20:35,709 --> 00:20:37,469
mutually deciding to terminate.

587
00:20:38,829 --> 00:20:40,739
This is what happens when we adhere.

588
00:20:41,390 --> 00:20:44,380
We see these outcomes and they're huge,

589
00:20:44,869 --> 00:20:46,739
and I get stories like that all the time,

590
00:20:46,869 --> 00:20:48,819
so I want you to know

591
00:20:49,109 --> 00:20:50,619
that first of all you're not alone.

592
00:20:50,910 --> 00:20:51,760
Second of all,

593
00:20:52,150 --> 00:20:53,900
there are so many

594
00:20:54,349 --> 00:20:57,670
instances where we can go look at what CCPT has done.

595
00:20:58,530 --> 00:20:59,349
And yes,

596
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:00,750
we're involved in that,

597
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,910
but really we trust the model

598
00:21:03,199 --> 00:21:04,469
and we trust the process.

599
00:21:05,140 --> 00:21:07,500
And ultimately we have to believe

600
00:21:07,770 --> 00:21:09,520
that when we remain adherent,

601
00:21:09,890 --> 00:21:11,540
these are the things that we can expect.

602
00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:14,790
There's freedom and there's peace

603
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:15,839
in that

604
00:21:16,479 --> 00:21:18,229
because the alternative is

605
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,949
we're constantly scrambling.

606
00:21:21,199 --> 00:21:23,089
And CCPT has a framework.

607
00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:24,290
It has a system.

608
00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:25,890
It has grounding

609
00:21:26,339 --> 00:21:30,609
where we know we just fall back on the model and we remain adherent

610
00:21:30,979 --> 00:21:33,310
and we watch kids self-actualize

611
00:21:33,619 --> 00:21:35,050
and we watch parents go,

612
00:21:35,380 --> 00:21:35,930
oh my gosh,

613
00:21:35,979 --> 00:21:37,209
things are so much better.

614
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,130
wow,

615
00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:40,380
like he's completely regulated now.

616
00:21:40,540 --> 00:21:42,810
He hasn't gotten a note home from school in months.

617
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,709
He never throws tantrums anymore.

618
00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:45,660
What a gift.

619
00:21:46,479 --> 00:21:47,329
What a gift,

620
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,189
and we know that that happens.

621
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,640
We just remain adherent.

622
00:21:51,540 --> 00:21:52,579
So,

623
00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:53,540
that's,

624
00:21:53,660 --> 00:21:58,650
that's kind of where I wanted to share the journey of from one listener to thousands,

625
00:21:58,979 --> 00:21:59,569
and

626
00:21:59,900 --> 00:22:00,459
really quickly,

627
00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:02,660
I have 4 other really quick little things that I just want

628
00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:04,420
to touch on and then we're going to dive into Q&A.

629
00:22:05,469 --> 00:22:06,770
I get asked a lot,

630
00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:07,660
what,

631
00:22:07,699 --> 00:22:09,089
what makes you want to do this?

632
00:22:09,219 --> 00:22:11,199
What keeps you recording every week?

633
00:22:11,420 --> 00:22:12,819
What gets you behind that mic,

634
00:22:12,939 --> 00:22:13,099
you know,

635
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,689
you sit by yourself in a room and you talk to a microphone,

636
00:22:15,780 --> 00:22:16,180
like how,

637
00:22:16,189 --> 00:22:17,089
how does this,

638
00:22:17,339 --> 00:22:19,010
how does this do something for you?

639
00:22:19,770 --> 00:22:20,400
If I could,

640
00:22:20,479 --> 00:22:21,599
I could give you 100 reasons,

641
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,920
but if I'm going to give you one.

642
00:22:23,849 --> 00:22:24,819
I really,

643
00:22:24,989 --> 00:22:26,380
every time I record,

644
00:22:26,949 --> 00:22:28,790
I feel like I'm talking to each one of you.

645
00:22:29,609 --> 00:22:30,660
And it's just,

646
00:22:30,770 --> 00:22:33,319
it's conversations about something that I love.

647
00:22:33,770 --> 00:22:37,839
I could talk about CCPT all day every day until I take my last breath.

648
00:22:38,050 --> 00:22:38,369
Why?

649
00:22:38,670 --> 00:22:39,890
Because it's all consuming.

650
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:41,530
And

651
00:22:41,650 --> 00:22:44,400
I truly love knowing that

652
00:22:44,770 --> 00:22:46,439
we just sit and chat about stuff,

653
00:22:46,729 --> 00:22:48,689
and I envision you like talking back to me.

654
00:22:48,739 --> 00:22:50,359
I imagine your facial expressions.

655
00:22:50,410 --> 00:22:52,599
I imagine the things that you say to me when we're it

656
00:22:52,849 --> 00:22:54,880
it feels like a conversation to me.

657
00:22:54,969 --> 00:22:57,910
So that's why I do this because it's interactive,

658
00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:59,079
it's collaborative,

659
00:22:59,250 --> 00:23:00,410
and I love that.

660
00:23:00,689 --> 00:23:03,439
Another thing that I get asked is what,

661
00:23:03,609 --> 00:23:07,640
what do I think is something that CCPT has to offer the world right now?

662
00:23:08,719 --> 00:23:08,729
Well,

663
00:23:09,469 --> 00:23:10,449
so many things,

664
00:23:10,989 --> 00:23:12,579
but I think above all hope.

665
00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:18,030
Parents and kids need to believe that transformation is possible.

666
00:23:18,709 --> 00:23:20,849
And I think they just want to have hope

667
00:23:21,089 --> 00:23:24,819
that their current state does not have to be their future state.

668
00:23:25,930 --> 00:23:28,260
And when we're not adherent,

669
00:23:28,510 --> 00:23:29,550
when we're eclectic,

670
00:23:29,670 --> 00:23:30,430
when we're integrated,

671
00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:32,099
when we're doing all kinds of things,

672
00:23:32,550 --> 00:23:34,300
we don't know what the outcome will be.

673
00:23:34,589 --> 00:23:36,800
I can't guarantee hope for someone

674
00:23:37,229 --> 00:23:38,420
with CCPT.

675
00:23:38,589 --> 00:23:40,020
I absolutely can.

676
00:23:40,430 --> 00:23:41,060
I say

677
00:23:41,349 --> 00:23:42,339
I know what

678
00:23:42,510 --> 00:23:44,859
will happen as we go through the process.

679
00:23:45,109 --> 00:23:46,939
It happens over and over and over again.

680
00:23:47,109 --> 00:23:49,359
We have the four universal outcomes to fall back on.

681
00:23:49,469 --> 00:23:50,089
I mean that's,

682
00:23:50,150 --> 00:23:51,979
that's important enough,

683
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:52,949
but then

684
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,949
a highly anxious kid comes in.

685
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,859
I know they're going to have a reduction in their anxiety.

686
00:23:58,609 --> 00:24:00,800
And as a result of highly anxious behavior,

687
00:24:00,859 --> 00:24:02,989
they're also going to be grasping at control.

688
00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:05,000
They're not going to need as much control.

689
00:24:05,050 --> 00:24:06,449
I can predict that too.

690
00:24:07,199 --> 00:24:08,829
They're going to build self-confidence.

691
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,229
I can predict that too.

692
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,719
They'll feel better about themselves.

693
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,300
They'll feel that they can problem solve.

694
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:14,400
They'll have more coping.

695
00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:15,310
Why?

696
00:24:15,609 --> 00:24:17,319
Because I know the outcomes.

697
00:24:17,910 --> 00:24:20,560
So I think CCPT above all else,

698
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:21,479
it does a lot,

699
00:24:21,650 --> 00:24:22,939
but it offers hope,

700
00:24:23,209 --> 00:24:25,609
and I think that that's really powerful because a lot of

701
00:24:25,609 --> 00:24:29,410
times many parents come in and they feel absolutely hopeless.

702
00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:31,420
And then

703
00:24:31,609 --> 00:24:32,449
another thought.

704
00:24:33,849 --> 00:24:37,199
I believe that CCPT has become a movement.

705
00:24:38,449 --> 00:24:38,459
Not

706
00:24:38,829 --> 00:24:39,880
just a method.

707
00:24:40,699 --> 00:24:42,469
And I want to touch on that really quickly.

708
00:24:42,729 --> 00:24:46,280
I talk about the wave of CCPT on episodes a lot and that's true,

709
00:24:46,609 --> 00:24:48,729
but I believe that this is a movement

710
00:24:49,290 --> 00:24:49,880
because

711
00:24:50,130 --> 00:24:52,030
we've had a movement away

712
00:24:52,449 --> 00:24:53,099
from.

713
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:54,459
Adherence,

714
00:24:54,619 --> 00:24:57,180
we've had a movement away from pure theory.

715
00:24:57,540 --> 00:25:00,579
We've had a movement away from training in grad

716
00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:01,510
courses.

717
00:25:01,579 --> 00:25:03,099
do you know how many therapists email me,

718
00:25:03,180 --> 00:25:03,699
reach out to me,

719
00:25:03,780 --> 00:25:04,199
message me,

720
00:25:04,260 --> 00:25:04,689
whatever,

721
00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:05,650
and they say

722
00:25:05,979 --> 00:25:09,540
I was never even made aware of play therapy until after I graduated.

723
00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:12,560
There is so much tragedy in that statement.

724
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:12,780
I,

725
00:25:12,859 --> 00:25:14,420
I can't even wrap my head around it.

726
00:25:15,209 --> 00:25:18,790
You're training therapists and a fraction of those

727
00:25:18,790 --> 00:25:20,329
people are going to work with children.

728
00:25:20,979 --> 00:25:22,920
We have to have children's therapists in the world,

729
00:25:22,979 --> 00:25:23,400
right?

730
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,060
So we know that a portion of every grad cohort is going to work with kids

731
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,319
and they're not even being exposed to play therapy.

732
00:25:31,189 --> 00:25:33,219
There's been this shift away from it,

733
00:25:33,709 --> 00:25:34,900
and I think the movement,

734
00:25:35,270 --> 00:25:36,310
everything comes full circle,

735
00:25:36,430 --> 00:25:36,859
right?

736
00:25:37,229 --> 00:25:39,459
So I think the movement has become

737
00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:42,140
everyone's running back to CCPT

738
00:25:42,349 --> 00:25:43,540
and I'm so excited about that.

739
00:25:43,550 --> 00:25:44,760
It's not just a method,

740
00:25:45,109 --> 00:25:45,939
we get it.

741
00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:48,229
When once you get CCPT,

742
00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:49,260
it gets you

743
00:25:49,550 --> 00:25:50,369
and you just,

744
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:53,219
you're gonna ride the wave with us and I'm so excited about that.

745
00:25:53,229 --> 00:25:54,459
And then finally,

746
00:25:54,829 --> 00:25:56,260
I wanted to kind of

747
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:59,400
finish out this discussion part before we get into Q&A.

748
00:26:00,030 --> 00:26:02,619
If you've only even listened to one episode,

749
00:26:02,949 --> 00:26:04,300
I know many of you,

750
00:26:04,709 --> 00:26:04,849
I,

751
00:26:04,869 --> 00:26:05,229
I get,

752
00:26:05,310 --> 00:26:09,099
I get comments about this all the time that you've listened to every single episode.

753
00:26:09,270 --> 00:26:11,760
You are 299 of 299.

754
00:26:11,869 --> 00:26:12,540
Thank you,

755
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:14,020
hug and high five.

756
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:16,030
For those of you that have maybe only listened

757
00:26:16,030 --> 00:26:18,349
to one or you're at any point in between,

758
00:26:18,430 --> 00:26:22,300
I had a discovery call with someone earlier and she said she's on 132.

759
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,189
So I was like,

760
00:26:23,229 --> 00:26:24,739
you're almost halfway there.

761
00:26:25,030 --> 00:26:28,060
I know regardless of how many episodes you've listened to.

762
00:26:28,989 --> 00:26:29,609
That

763
00:26:29,869 --> 00:26:32,500
this podcast is about all of us.

764
00:26:32,910 --> 00:26:36,099
So whether you've listened to one or all of them or anywhere in between,

765
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,020
this is our

766
00:26:38,189 --> 00:26:38,670
journey,

767
00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:40,140
this is our path,

768
00:26:40,349 --> 00:26:41,790
this is our podcast.

769
00:26:42,099 --> 00:26:42,910
And

770
00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:44,040
that is very,

771
00:26:44,089 --> 00:26:45,880
very special to me that

772
00:26:46,290 --> 00:26:48,000
we can create a community

773
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,239
around

774
00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:50,589
talking through a mic

775
00:26:51,170 --> 00:26:51,800
and

776
00:26:52,089 --> 00:26:56,119
all of the engagement and the interaction that is incredible and so

777
00:26:56,449 --> 00:26:56,640
really,

778
00:26:56,770 --> 00:26:58,880
really excited for our 300th episode.

779
00:26:58,969 --> 00:27:00,199
Thank you for being here.

780
00:27:00,660 --> 00:27:01,209
All right y'all,

781
00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:03,119
well it was so good to be with you.

782
00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:04,489
Thank you so much for attending.

783
00:27:04,530 --> 00:27:05,819
I know we went an hour and a half,

784
00:27:05,849 --> 00:27:07,250
so I appreciate those of you that were on the

785
00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:08,839
whole time and those of you that came on late.

786
00:27:08,890 --> 00:27:09,729
Thanks for joining.

787
00:27:10,239 --> 00:27:12,560
For those of you that were not on at the beginning of the call,

788
00:27:12,699 --> 00:27:17,170
if you would like to be in a raffle to have a 30 minute Zoom call with me,

789
00:27:17,579 --> 00:27:21,449
please send your CCPT story to me via email.

790
00:27:22,010 --> 00:27:26,270
And if you attend the call and you send me your CCPT journey and story,

791
00:27:26,439 --> 00:27:30,030
we'll draw 3 names and we'll schedule 3 30 minute Zoom calls

792
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,089
for whatever you want to talk about.

793
00:27:32,199 --> 00:27:33,560
So you can ask me questions,

794
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,459
you can,

795
00:27:34,719 --> 00:27:35,050
whatever,

796
00:27:35,199 --> 00:27:35,760
it's up to you.

797
00:27:35,849 --> 00:27:36,530
30 minutes,

798
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,390
your choice.

799
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,160
So please,

800
00:27:38,199 --> 00:27:39,709
if you want to be considered for that,

801
00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:42,630
please send me an email brenna@thekidcounselor.com.

802
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:44,560
Y'all mean so much to me.

803
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:46,319
I'm so grateful for each and every one of you.

804
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,630
The 300th episode is a huge milestone.

805
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,170
Thanks for celebrating it with me.

806
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,369
Thanks for hanging out with me.

807
00:27:51,739 --> 00:27:53,109
And I appreciate y'all.

808
00:27:53,189 --> 00:27:54,859
If you want to reach out about anything,

809
00:27:54,989 --> 00:27:55,420
please do.

810
00:27:55,469 --> 00:27:57,839
You know that my email door is always open,

811
00:27:58,349 --> 00:28:00,079
and I hope you all have a great weekend.

812
00:28:00,349 --> 00:28:00,520
Bye,

813
00:28:00,709 --> 00:28:01,180
everyone.

814
00:28:01,790 --> 00:28:04,510
Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr.

815
00:28:04,670 --> 00:28:05,609
Brenna Hicks.

816
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:07,790
For more episodes and resources,

817
00:28:07,869 --> 00:28:12,589
please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.