Revisiting Lucha Underground Season 1 - The Debut Episode, Prince Puma vs Johnny Mundo, $100,000 Up For Grabs

<v Speaker 1>D Boys. Welcome to the Deadline Podcast, episode number three
<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty three, three three three, twenty thirty three.
<v Speaker 1>Today we are talking about Lusha Underground, Season one, Episode one,
<v Speaker 1>first time ever.
<v Speaker 2>Debut episode of Lucha Underground. Highly requested, I think for
<v Speaker 2>years now, James the people. Yeah, I've been wanting us
<v Speaker 2>to do the Lucha Underground and we are tapping into it.
<v Speaker 2>I watched this when I debuted. James dipped a toe
<v Speaker 2>in and then very quickly we'll talk about that, why
<v Speaker 2>and everything surrounding the first episode of Lucha Underground. On
<v Speaker 2>this very episode.
<v Speaker 1>Before we get into that, we have the Deadlock updates.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, updates here the Deadlock. Oh here's an update
<v Speaker 2>for you. Last week on the pod, we did a retro.
<v Speaker 2>It was the go home show for In Your House
<v Speaker 2>Burial Live ninety six. It was really good. I had
<v Speaker 2>a really good time on it. Uh something something must
<v Speaker 2>have happened last week where nobody saw it. So you
<v Speaker 2>should go listen to that because it was good.
<v Speaker 1>You would enjoy it.
<v Speaker 2>Very well done. We had a good time. So go
<v Speaker 2>listen to that and then get back to us and
<v Speaker 2>let us know what you thought. And then listen to
<v Speaker 2>this one too. Hey. Also just you know, wanted to
<v Speaker 2>throw this out here too, because I've I've mentioned it
<v Speaker 2>a few times and I started to thinking about it.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, I don't want people starting to
<v Speaker 2>just fucking think maybe I'm fucking for real dying because
<v Speaker 2>I talked about being on medication and ship the other week.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm I've been sick for like the better part
<v Speaker 2>of two months now, which is like why some things
<v Speaker 2>have been delayed here and there, and you know, it's
<v Speaker 2>it's all come out obviously, but uh, you know it's
<v Speaker 2>it's it's been pretty hard, uh, just trying to keep
<v Speaker 2>up with shit here. And thankfully my buddy here, James,
<v Speaker 2>will fucking make whatever I need to work work and
<v Speaker 2>he's always there for me and make sure or that's
<v Speaker 2>you know, if I if I can get it done,
<v Speaker 2>I get it done as easy as possible. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>it's fucking a joy to work with somebody like that
<v Speaker 2>and have somebody like that in my life. So I
<v Speaker 2>appreciate you very much, Bud.
<v Speaker 1>But I would like you to get better.
<v Speaker 2>Dude, Okay, so that'd be awesome. So I again, I
<v Speaker 2>just to I just want to let you guys, know,
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like it's been a minute since I
<v Speaker 2>fucking have said anything like this. We talked about, you know,
<v Speaker 2>dead locking in. Well, I've been fucking lifed out. I
<v Speaker 2>was sick and then I was good, and then I
<v Speaker 2>got bronchitis which put me down for like two weeks.
<v Speaker 2>So like if I sounded like shit on the show,
<v Speaker 2>shout out Beefy for making me not sound like shit
<v Speaker 2>and taking out a ton of coughs uh. And then
<v Speaker 2>I was good, and now I have the fucking shingles,
<v Speaker 2>man like. And when they told me that, I thought
<v Speaker 2>they were like lying, Like I went to an urgent
<v Speaker 2>care because I fucking had mad left side of my
<v Speaker 2>fucking face pain like it just had it felt like
<v Speaker 2>a headache on my eyebrow. My eyebrow was sens have
<v Speaker 2>felt like shit. And I was like, okay, I'll get
<v Speaker 2>this go checked out. They said shingles. I said, no way.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take whatever they're gonna give me for a
<v Speaker 2>week and then I'm gonna find out really what I
<v Speaker 2>have when I go back to ask, hey, I'm still
<v Speaker 2>in pain. Uh yeah. It turns out super half shingles,
<v Speaker 2>which causes like a fucking rash on like one side
<v Speaker 2>of your face, which I'm glad I'm on a camera.
<v Speaker 2>I was able to get through last episode. Uh nerve
<v Speaker 2>stuff right, Yeah, yes, it's all nerve connected. So like
<v Speaker 2>along my eyebrow to my like my eye and my
<v Speaker 2>jaw on my ear has been unbelievably painful. I've been
<v Speaker 2>taking fucking like antibiotic pills and eye drops and now
<v Speaker 2>I'm on a steroid eye drop which makes my eye
<v Speaker 2>super sensitive to everything. Uh, which sucks so but but
<v Speaker 2>more getting to the good part of this, I'm okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'm alive. Everything is cool, and as you can see,
<v Speaker 2>we are still doing things as normal. But I want
<v Speaker 2>you all know, yeah, if some stuff is delayed here
<v Speaker 2>or there, it is my fault. And I apologize. I've
<v Speaker 2>just been dying. I've been dying and I can't stop dying.
<v Speaker 2>And hopefully this will be the end of it here
<v Speaker 2>soon and I'll be okay. But yeah, we're doing We're
<v Speaker 2>doing our best to keep up with everything we do here.
<v Speaker 2>James is doing his best to keep me alive. And
<v Speaker 2>and you know, James has had a adventurous fucking December
<v Speaker 2>that you know I won't make him go into but
<v Speaker 2>it has been pretty crazy December into January.
<v Speaker 1>But trying to send and you know, he'll get you, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he keeps telling me that and then he's
<v Speaker 2>falling up with he'll kill you, which doesn't I don't
<v Speaker 2>want to do that. I don't want to die. Sure, well,
<v Speaker 2>thank you, I'm I'm for your sake, I won't take that, Like,
<v Speaker 2>what do you do? What do you do?
<v Speaker 1>If I'm going, I'll go back to work on the docks.
<v Speaker 2>I guess, well, you're stuck here for a little bit longer,
<v Speaker 2>but you're stuck here with all of so yeah, so
<v Speaker 2>that's uh, that's what's going on. So again, I appreciate
<v Speaker 2>any anybody that had reached out to with any concern,
<v Speaker 2>but I'm good. But that's that's what's going on. Hey,
<v Speaker 2>and better news now on the Pagereon pagerean dot com
<v Speaker 2>slash deadlock pw five dollar above to your new episode
<v Speaker 2>of watch this is up on that sucker. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>there's an unbelievablemount of episode to watch this on there. Also,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the exact number. I don't remember. We
<v Speaker 2>may or may not be in record Patreon member numbers
<v Speaker 2>currently by the way, uh so if you want to
<v Speaker 2>know why the fuck it's popping off like that, go
<v Speaker 2>over to patreon dot com slash deadlock p W six
<v Speaker 2>thousand plus strong on that sucka and you know, make
<v Speaker 2>sure you sign up you want to catch SGH come
<v Speaker 2>in this month which is undecided, but there is a
<v Speaker 2>thread up currently that you can go in the ten
<v Speaker 2>dollars and above tier to suggest what you want us
<v Speaker 2>to watch for the month of January. And I've been
<v Speaker 2>seeing a lot of exciting things here and there, some
<v Speaker 2>not so exciting. Some I know James doesn't want to do,
<v Speaker 2>which I'll put on the list to try to wean
<v Speaker 2>my way in. But sometimes James does that to me
<v Speaker 2>as well. Uh So, you know, it's a it's a
<v Speaker 2>battle every month and we'll see with But that's in
<v Speaker 2>the ten dollars above tier. Also in the ten dollars
<v Speaker 2>above tier on the Patreon, a new retro sink is
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<v Speaker 2>thousand where Horace Hogan's job is on the line against
<v Speaker 2>Billy Kidman and a match where Eric Bischoff keeps changing
<v Speaker 2>the stipulations and also if Haulkgan interferes Horace is fired.
<v Speaker 2>This deck is stacked against Horace Hogan. Remember that legendary
<v Speaker 2>fucking show with Horace Hogan running down the ramp, So
<v Speaker 2>relive that one and it's full glory with the retro
<v Speaker 2>sinc that comes out biweekly. That's on patreon dot com,
<v Speaker 2>slash Deadlock p W. And last thing here, by the way,
<v Speaker 2>the Debdies the Debties. Thank you for everyone that put
<v Speaker 2>in their ballots. We got fucking a lot of ballots
<v Speaker 2>here that we're gonna have sift through. I think that
<v Speaker 2>was also a record number of ballots actually this year,
<v Speaker 2>So thank you all so much. Yeah, thank you for
<v Speaker 2>getting those in. If the voting isn't up by the
<v Speaker 2>time this pod is out, it will be up in
<v Speaker 2>the following week for the voting for the twenty twenty
<v Speaker 2>five Deadies. So we'll do that. We'll tabulate all the
<v Speaker 2>votes and we'll get to have thegether that all together,
<v Speaker 2>and then we will do the Deadis episode of the podcast,
<v Speaker 2>which is also always very fun. So be on the
<v Speaker 2>lookout on our socials for that. I'll post it as
<v Speaker 2>many places as I can, so get that going and
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<v Speaker 1>That now at a time for the Patreon shout out segment.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my.
<v Speaker 1>God, starting in the five dollars to your Christopher.
<v Speaker 2>Charles, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, my.
<v Speaker 1>Back, my pussy and my dick.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, classic, that is a classic, fine speech.
<v Speaker 1>Chase Utley played for the.
<v Speaker 2>Film Lease Chaseley, Yes, Chase.
<v Speaker 1>Out Lee played for the Phillies. He used to ask
<v Speaker 1>organist Paul Richard's son, can you play the walk up
<v Speaker 1>song for Chase Richard's son?
<v Speaker 2>Like that sucks because he really pulled on my heartstrings
<v Speaker 2>and Chase meant a lot Chase Lee. No, that's not
<v Speaker 2>his fucking name. Damon demon, I'm getting stressed out. I'm
<v Speaker 2>getting more shingles. You gotta be nice to me now,
<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot, Chase.
<v Speaker 1>Brandon, h MG, Jules Rebel Gaming, Jonah Murphy, Ian Moon Sludge,
<v Speaker 1>Douglas Blount, Anonymous beef.
<v Speaker 2>That's our editor, poop, but that's Vampiro on this show.
<v Speaker 1>Ten dollars dear for to one, straya fuck off fig
<v Speaker 1>Bradley Parsons, sadistic Bucky Barnes are stupa stan here reminding
<v Speaker 1>everyone to leave Johnny alone.
<v Speaker 2>It's not his fault.
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know how to read. Fuck you handsome Zach Jack,
<v Speaker 1>jud Blood, Jarnell Darnell and Tuglis Douglas Jude Blude, Bristo
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<v Speaker 2>What the hell? Tyler L.
<v Speaker 1>Guappo is bald and has small hands and feet.
<v Speaker 2>I've seen Tyler Aguappo in person many times. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if he has miniair. He has a lot of hairs,
<v Speaker 2>and I haven't really viewed the hands and feet though.
<v Speaker 1>Terry Brunt Gold Zippy eighty seven, fucking Bob Rob Dobbah Dan.
<v Speaker 2>The man Stevens, who let you be the man?
<v Speaker 1>Burst, Let's go Rams, Let's go forty nine ers? No,
<v Speaker 1>you let those other two trash ass fraudulent, stinky, freaking
<v Speaker 1>of flatulence? What the and hepatitis flavored piss?
<v Speaker 2>Who? Oh? What teams? Is that what he's talking about?
<v Speaker 1>Why do they call it oven? When you oven the.
<v Speaker 3>Cold food of alt, hot eat the food rich?
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I fucking hate this guy. Oh, I hate this guy.
<v Speaker 2>You know I can see all your emails. You know
<v Speaker 2>I have that ability to see your fucking emails. Chase, please,
<v Speaker 2>feeling like.
<v Speaker 1>David Hasselhoff's bouncing boobies when he turns into the boat
<v Speaker 1>in the SpongeBob movie, Jace Rich.
<v Speaker 2>Said, you can't fucking do that. You can't fucking take
<v Speaker 2>liberties here. Don't you take enough liberties with the fucking pronunciations.
<v Speaker 2>Fucking motherfucker.
<v Speaker 1>Colin Puckett Triple J from the c l E. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the real Peter Griffin.
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, it's trade Mark.
<v Speaker 1>This has to be.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Peter.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Peter, feeling like the v initial on Big Van
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<v Speaker 1>Hard Cars.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's like, I mean, peanut butter breath.
<v Speaker 1>Majen Kit Willson's new theme song on SmackDown got me
<v Speaker 1>and my homies acting some kind of way in the arena,
<v Speaker 1>some kind of sexual way.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you definitely haven't heard this song. I'm gonna send
<v Speaker 2>it to you.
<v Speaker 1>Bud Francisco, I want some on a dick, am I?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just say Francisco, I want some dick in my ass.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why you guys gotta play around here.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stop playing that.
<v Speaker 2>Go it's hard to read.
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Colliard. I wish this FED thing appreciated me like
<v Speaker 1>this orange and black thing. Does I hate this fed thing?
<v Speaker 1>I spit on you.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, Joseph Reese will speck, Jordan Smith, Von Griggs,
<v Speaker 4>Caleb Horner, lot too, Hank Nasty lord Head asked the
<v Speaker 4>fourth why goo Agee?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Nice, nice Damon Harris Jacat knows that you already know.
<v Speaker 2>We do.
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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, aka Baba Thunder. That's what I wow.
<v Speaker 1>Boys Night Wrestling, Nice obg Olie Dominic, Alexander Atlanta Falcons QB.
<v Speaker 1>Mikey Penisjunior.
<v Speaker 2>Are you drafting Mikey Penis Madden two thousand and five?
<v Speaker 1>Come on as an NFL two K five?
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm sorry, I apologize. I apologize.
<v Speaker 1>Mikey Penis Tenor sadly is injured and he'll probably want
<v Speaker 1>to play a down next season. Yeah, he's pretty hurt.
<v Speaker 1>Noah l l H. Derek Gole, Reggie Riob, Frankie's that
<v Speaker 1>Bunky's brother Jack Unfocused, Juggler, purified, Kine, Matt Jones, Fire,
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Patullo, Yaes Sirianni indifferent Cole Slag Grimace, Tommy Dreamer
<v Speaker 1>gigging himself with a dorito dickhead coleburn want the rest
<v Speaker 1>of these ps before I throw them at Johnny?
<v Speaker 2>Don't do that.
<v Speaker 1>The Panthers and the Eagles won the same amount of
<v Speaker 1>games in the playoffs.
<v Speaker 2>Why and one that's not a pro fucking name.
<v Speaker 1>Uh we you guys won the Super Bowl like we
<v Speaker 1>were eight and nine like the Panthers. We almost beat
<v Speaker 1>the MVP. You know what, we'll talk about it here
<v Speaker 1>in a minute. Here we go, Jack Mickus, if you
<v Speaker 1>smell what the cock is cookie, come y'all can fly
<v Speaker 1>and pound your ways to the off season. Rams.
<v Speaker 2>That's not happening. Are you out of your mind? What
<v Speaker 2>like that's insane? Wow? Ok?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dighead rees Allen Jones. Yeah, I still got Knucklehead
<v Speaker 1>on DVD from when I was a kid.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you all listen to this and
<v Speaker 2>you don't watch football, and you're even if like you
<v Speaker 2>have to pick a side, by the way, so like
<v Speaker 2>you know this, this this show is introducing you to football,
<v Speaker 2>then you have to pick up Panthers or Eagles. And
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of it.
<v Speaker 1>If you don't live in the United States. A lot
<v Speaker 1>of people live overseas and they're listening to this.
<v Speaker 2>Basically, you follow along, especially, oh especially, get ready. Baseball
<v Speaker 2>season's coming up. We're about to go. Yeah, We're about
<v Speaker 2>to fucking have a fun fucking baseball season. So pick
<v Speaker 2>a team. Don't pick the Braves, pick the Phillies, please.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, teams. You shouldn't pick Eagles for football, Phillies Mets
<v Speaker 1>for baseball. Uh, not the fucking Rams.
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you that New York team we can agree on.
<v Speaker 2>Don't pick that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do not pick. Do not pick the Pats, you
<v Speaker 1>know from football.
<v Speaker 2>Come on, dude, maybe you can pick the Red So if.
<v Speaker 1>You weren't there for prime era Tom Brady, you can't
<v Speaker 1>pick the Pats.
<v Speaker 2>It's just being prime era. Drake May. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, we'll see about that. When Michael Penis Junior comes
<v Speaker 1>back and starts doing anything.
<v Speaker 2>Drake Drake May May is talking about to like do
<v Speaker 2>some business here. We'll get into it.
<v Speaker 1>We'll get well, actually, you know what the Falcons are
<v Speaker 1>in my division, So you know what Michael penis doing.
<v Speaker 1>You can stay out for just a little bit longer,
<v Speaker 1>you know, how about a couple more seasons. We'll figure
<v Speaker 1>it out from there, Graham Martin, zero Inferno, Charles Key,
<v Speaker 1>ce Ron's Skylark, Gregor.
<v Speaker 2>And Derson Oh shit, and her Son.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's it again, Claire Grindle, ghost Way
<v Speaker 1>Great twelve dollars tier, cooder Man sixty nine doesn't exist,
<v Speaker 1>fourteen dollars fifty cent tier Sir Beakington and Travis Johnson.
<v Speaker 2>Just pay fifty cents more, fifteen.
<v Speaker 1>Dollars tier rain Maker Pose, Joseph de Petro, Lee Chicken,
<v Speaker 1>Tika Massala, Yeah, which is regular? Wow? I was expecting Massala.
<v Speaker 1>Has that been a name on here?
<v Speaker 2>Oh?
<v Speaker 1>Jack Duca Massawa?
<v Speaker 2>I think it has to be, And if not, there's
<v Speaker 2>gonna be three of them next week.
<v Speaker 1>One hundred and twenty dollars annual Genetic Freakazoid Matthew kloh
<v Speaker 1>and still the Patreon Champion of the World has sixty
<v Speaker 1>nine and sixty nine. Oh yes, Sour Smarties is asking
<v Speaker 1>if y'all want to form a griftball team.
<v Speaker 2>Have you changed your mind on that last week? You
<v Speaker 2>were no sure thing? Oh, there we go. Fucking things
<v Speaker 2>are already picking in twenty I won't be a part
<v Speaker 2>of any of that. I won't be a part of
<v Speaker 2>any of that, but I will.
<v Speaker 1>Part of catching the balls deep either. Thank you guys
<v Speaker 1>for listening, everybody. We're gonna get to the show.
<v Speaker 5>Now.
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the Patriot Q and A. All right
<v Speaker 1>now it is time for the Patreon Q and A segment.
<v Speaker 2>Question and answers, Question and answers. Do you hear this guy?
<v Speaker 2>Is that like I was trying something new? How does
<v Speaker 2>that feel?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, that's cool man. You have the question, answers
<v Speaker 1>and the answers.
<v Speaker 2>That's what we get here. Yeah, yeah, I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to do it this week, so you do it.
<v Speaker 1>Short thing starting off here. First question we have here
<v Speaker 1>from the Patreon is from fuck Kevin Petullo's how you
<v Speaker 1>say that?
<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, that's yes. Really from now on i've heard both,
<v Speaker 2>so I actually, to be honest, I don't.
<v Speaker 3>Know, fuck Kevin Petullo and just fuck Kevin in general,
<v Speaker 3>like just seriously, man, seriously.
<v Speaker 1>We also Sirianni.
<v Speaker 2>That's okay. I mean maybe not as much he's you know,
<v Speaker 2>he's doing. You know, he got us to a lot
<v Speaker 2>of playoffs, like five of them. There was five of
<v Speaker 2>them he got him to.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw him arguing with a J Brown after
<v Speaker 1>he dropped every single pass that came his way that
<v Speaker 1>entire playoff game.
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people wanted to argue with A. J. Brown.
<v Speaker 2>I actually got right up to my TV and I
<v Speaker 2>started yelling at him.
<v Speaker 1>He saw Sirianni fucking running a forty yard dash down
<v Speaker 1>the sideline. He said, I'm joining in.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I just started head button my fucking big
<v Speaker 2>screen TV and then singles.
<v Speaker 1>I started head butting my little screen TV.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for Yeah. I was watching that game. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I know you were. It was frustrating a ship because
<v Speaker 2>you're a fucking you just jumped from team to team
<v Speaker 2>every fucking time, well every time it's somebody self in possession,
<v Speaker 2>you just jump back and forth. And it was fucking
<v Speaker 2>pissing me on.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well here's the deal, uh. I like the
<v Speaker 1>forty nine Ers, you know, like I was a forty
<v Speaker 1>nine Ers fan growing up because my dad was a
<v Speaker 1>forty nine Ers fan growing up, because they grew up
<v Speaker 1>in a time where the Panthers weren't a team yet.
<v Speaker 1>So like that was like a deal.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm a Panthers fan because the Panthers exist, and
<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up, the Panthers were a thing, understanda.
<v Speaker 1>But I also love for the forty nine ers. I
<v Speaker 1>also rooted for the Eagles though.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like it wasn't like it wasn't real, Like
<v Speaker 2>that was like there was something I wish I could remember.
<v Speaker 2>There was one thing he said that Like I put
<v Speaker 2>my phone down for like five minutes after because I
<v Speaker 2>was like, fuck this guy man, like he's telling me
<v Speaker 2>we're listening.
<v Speaker 1>Also, I have no idea what the question was. Next question,
<v Speaker 1>I don't Mimister asked if w c W had signed
<v Speaker 1>Amish Roadkill, how many episodes of Nitro would we currently
<v Speaker 1>be on.
<v Speaker 2>Well, so they had two hundred and eighty eight episodes.
<v Speaker 2>I think they would have if Amish Roadkill was signed,
<v Speaker 2>it would have ended at two hundred and fifty episodes.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think what it really came down to,
<v Speaker 1>because they definitely offered him big money, was that Oh
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, I've known that for a while.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sorry, this is well, you know, you give me
<v Speaker 2>the questions and the answers.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well here's the deal with that man, Amish Roadkill.
<v Speaker 1>You know, he came up in the house of hardcore,
<v Speaker 1>so he was pretty much locked down you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, guy's got a lot of money from them, like
<v Speaker 2>Mikey went Bradko Yeah, historic bags.
<v Speaker 1>Oh not right, Yeah, Chris Chetty was offered a lot
<v Speaker 1>until he blew out his legs.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that was a big deal back then. I
<v Speaker 2>can't well remember that road So Roadkill you're saying got
<v Speaker 2>a big This is like you're breaking some news here.
<v Speaker 2>Roadkill got a big money deal from w CW. Turned
<v Speaker 2>it down. Then East W and w CW both died
<v Speaker 2>and he just never got a job on TV. Again. Well,
<v Speaker 2>he did the heart attack in a dark match, right,
<v Speaker 2>which sacrilege.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it sucks that every team ever in ww
<v Speaker 1>F history does the heart attack, I guess attack.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So you're saying w c W would still be
<v Speaker 2>alive if Amish Roadkill was signed there.
<v Speaker 1>I'm I mean, look at it.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think that uh I'm looking.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think TBS, T and T would be impressed
<v Speaker 1>by what w c W thinks to the table.
<v Speaker 2>It's just the entire merger wouldn't have happened.
<v Speaker 1>Brad Seger would say, wait, I have an idea.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, yeah, really that's like a tew thing waiting happened.
<v Speaker 2>Like I want to see that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean Amish roadkill leading a new segment of
<v Speaker 1>the nWo would have been pretty sweet. The Amished edi.
<v Speaker 2>If we were we're in w Amish.
<v Speaker 1>Pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's something, there's something to it, you know what.
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I might, I might be with you.
<v Speaker 1>Our next question comes from PS two humping the xbox.
<v Speaker 1>He says, I welcome the day with a show of light.
<v Speaker 1>I stealthily came here in the night. I bade the
<v Speaker 1>earthy stuff at dawn, but by noon, alas I'm gone.
<v Speaker 1>Who am I?
<v Speaker 2>Well?
<v Speaker 1>Thankfully this was answered by one of the other patrons,
<v Speaker 1>two tone Moonstone, who said, you're a Mark brother and
<v Speaker 1>that's there for that question.
<v Speaker 2>Damn wow, the fucking Q and a answer asked and
<v Speaker 2>answered on the pagetraon that might be a fund first.
<v Speaker 1>Next question here is from saying yeah, after every three
<v Speaker 1>syllable word, who do you think should bring the leather
<v Speaker 1>faced gimmick to American wrestling?
<v Speaker 2>Like, so it's already established that we all collectively think
<v Speaker 2>this is a good idea. Yeah, right right, okay, yes, hmmm,
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking uh, I'm thinking King Barrett.
<v Speaker 1>What about ww's Fernando thoughts.
<v Speaker 2>We we've really been tapped into the roster for some
<v Speaker 2>reason lately. Uh and those are like two guys that
<v Speaker 2>stand out and uh Tatanka, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
<v Speaker 2>that's those are pretty good.
<v Speaker 1>If I had to give a better answer, like if we.
<v Speaker 2>Had if I literally had to pick this.
<v Speaker 1>If we had to make it work, right, and we
<v Speaker 1>had to pick somebody, and like we were like, we
<v Speaker 1>have the outfit, we have the we have the chainsaw
<v Speaker 1>with the sparks, we got everything, and we're gonna make
<v Speaker 1>this work. I think, yeah, I think that I would
<v Speaker 1>give it to Jake Something.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was thinking something, which is pretty fucked up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he would work. He would have to
<v Speaker 1>work twice because I would still like him to be
<v Speaker 1>Jake Something.
<v Speaker 2>But we're getting like our boys getting paid double, you know.
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's kind of how old school wrestling worked anyways, right,
<v Speaker 1>Like you'd have five people and you'd somehow have you know,
<v Speaker 1>eight wrestlers on the show. Is because some of these
<v Speaker 1>guys go backstage, they put a mask on, they come
<v Speaker 1>back out of somebody else. I think that would work fantastically.
<v Speaker 1>Like when you bring back this character, it's not so
<v Speaker 1>much how his matches actually were, because most people that
<v Speaker 1>know this character don't know how his matches actually were.
<v Speaker 1>All they know is that he was a crazy fucking
<v Speaker 1>character chainsaw, and like their brain tells them that he
<v Speaker 1>was doing the most insane shit ever. So yeah, I'd
<v Speaker 1>have Jake go out there fucking power bomb outside of
<v Speaker 1>the ring, spinning, fucking sit out, oh my god, super bomb,
<v Speaker 1>you know, just come up with the craziest things you
<v Speaker 1>could do and then get the chainsaw and rev it
<v Speaker 1>up crazy or like people would be like there he is, like,
<v Speaker 1>come out and do the chainsaw over the head thing,
<v Speaker 1>you know.
<v Speaker 2>Just give it to trying to think of yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>mean like in terms of yeah, like the theatrics of it,
<v Speaker 2>Jake would be fucking fantastic at that. I'm trying to
<v Speaker 2>think if there's anybody else that like would fit that,
<v Speaker 2>even just body type wise like that, you know, if
<v Speaker 2>you were looking for like a true one to one
<v Speaker 2>or anything. But I don't damn, Jake was legit who
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking of. I don't know if there's anybody
<v Speaker 2>else that would be as good if we wanted like
<v Speaker 2>pretty sweet, Yeah, there's some you know people we probably
<v Speaker 2>just put anybody in there.
<v Speaker 1>Jake would be able to get the man or rhythms.
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. The other name that came to mind
<v Speaker 2>was bear Bronson. I think, Okay, ye kind of fits
<v Speaker 2>like he kind of fits the build, like he does
<v Speaker 2>all that fun you know, he you know, if this
<v Speaker 2>is deathmatch leather face, right, he'll go full bore on
<v Speaker 2>that ship, like you know, he'll and he you know,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, he kind of has the build and
<v Speaker 2>he's kind of he can be frantic. So yeah, Barre
<v Speaker 2>Bronson probably would be. If I'm not picking Jake, if
<v Speaker 2>I'm picking the death match guy, then bear Bronson. I think.
<v Speaker 1>If we're not picking Jake or Bear Bronson, maybe.
<v Speaker 2>Jim Ross, w w D, maybe Dammy missed.
<v Speaker 1>We have another question here from retro shot. He asks,
<v Speaker 1>this question is for Johnny, what is your favorite fire
<v Speaker 1>Pro game? I heard you have built quite the collection
<v Speaker 1>in Japan.
<v Speaker 2>I okay, thank, I mean god, I didn't know that
<v Speaker 2>this has taken on a life of its own. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I do have. I do have quite a wrestling game collection,
<v Speaker 2>and the trips to Japan have fucking I mean only
<v Speaker 2>tripled it. Really the first year I went I'm pretty
<v Speaker 2>sure I bought im not joking thirty five games home.
<v Speaker 1>I mean we walked in those stores and uh you
<v Speaker 1>can hell yeah, I guess no one's heard like the
<v Speaker 1>account of somebody that's been with me going video game
<v Speaker 1>hunting here that I buy stuff. Well, you do the
<v Speaker 1>first sweep initially, where you just kind of look around
<v Speaker 1>see if you can catch any pro wrestling stuff. Then
<v Speaker 1>you do the second part of it, whereas everyone gets.
<v Speaker 2>Involved, which like is super nice. By the way, I
<v Speaker 2>don't like once in a while I'll say hey, like,
<v Speaker 2>have you seen anything, but like eventually if it's me,
<v Speaker 2>you sprite. I think last time we went, like Jake
<v Speaker 2>was looking domb like yeah, coup, Like, I think everybody
<v Speaker 2>would kind of got involved, where it's like, okay, we
<v Speaker 2>all need to see what wrestling games exist here, which
<v Speaker 2>is super helpful.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's the second sweep. Third sweep is walking
<v Speaker 1>up to the cashier with the Google Translate and asking
<v Speaker 1>if they have any pro wrestling games.
<v Speaker 2>That's like Desperate Mode, which was a few on the
<v Speaker 2>last one, which works. By the way, they're not offended
<v Speaker 2>by the law. It's not like you're bothering them and
<v Speaker 2>like they usually know, like you know, if most because
<v Speaker 2>most you know, wrestling games in Japan will just have
<v Speaker 2>wrestling in the title. So at the very least, if
<v Speaker 2>they don't know it by I or you know, they
<v Speaker 2>know that it came in, like they can look it
<v Speaker 2>up on the computer. So that shit super fucking helpful.
<v Speaker 2>But yes, that is that is pretty much exactly what
<v Speaker 2>it is. I God, I it looks like I have
<v Speaker 2>I own maybe ten to twelve different fire Pro games.
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean I've played all these though, Like a
<v Speaker 2>lot of shit I own, I actually still haven't touched.
<v Speaker 2>But the most the fire Pro games that I played
<v Speaker 2>the most are Returns and World, and I'd probably say
<v Speaker 2>one of those two are are my favorite. World might
<v Speaker 2>just get the edge just because I mean, good lord,
<v Speaker 2>World has everything. World does everything, especially if you have
<v Speaker 2>all the DC like and you have it on Steam, Like,
<v Speaker 2>what an endless amount of just life that game has.
<v Speaker 2>Like I could boot this game up tomorrow and it
<v Speaker 2>turned it into an entirely different game if I wanted to.
<v Speaker 2>It's fucking fun. Returns has a special place in my
<v Speaker 2>heart just because I remember getting it. I didn't know
<v Speaker 2>it was released in America. I remember getting I'm pretty
<v Speaker 2>sure it was like twenty or thirty bucks at game stop.
<v Speaker 2>I remember, yeah, No, it was fucking awesome. And I
<v Speaker 2>remember learning how to like put saves onto a USB
<v Speaker 2>and putting it into my PS two so I could
<v Speaker 2>have like just a fucking unreal indie roster on it.
<v Speaker 2>At the time.
<v Speaker 1>That was probably super cool back then.
<v Speaker 2>Dude, this was five, I want to say, or six
<v Speaker 2>something like that.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't play any Fire Pro games growing up, not
<v Speaker 1>even Returns. No, I wasn't like a fire prop at all.
<v Speaker 1>I did play, uh, the Xbox Arcade Fire Pro.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I played that as well as adult.
<v Speaker 1>That ship was as I mean, that was a little
<v Speaker 1>Avatar gold.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I had the gold. It was like, oh cool,
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing as like a wrestler in this. I still
<v Speaker 2>have all those Yeah, I do too. I don't understand
<v Speaker 2>how that was made or why, or like what that
<v Speaker 2>was about. That's like the furthest thing from a fire
<v Speaker 2>Pro game.
<v Speaker 1>Ever, I can understand why they went for it. To
<v Speaker 1>understand it, you truly have to look at it. The
<v Speaker 1>Xbox Arcade was unfucking real.
<v Speaker 2>It was sick.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was so huge then, so like trying
<v Speaker 1>to release something in that manner was a great idea.
<v Speaker 1>It just yeah, it was just tough.
<v Speaker 2>But of all the things like yeah, the fire Provice,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, wow, when you play your first fire Pro.
<v Speaker 1>Then whenever that came out, world, Uh no, the fire Pro.
<v Speaker 2>Was the first one. I oh oh, I mean, like
<v Speaker 2>I sorry, like after that, like when.
<v Speaker 1>Did you like if you don't count that one?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah, world, wow, no shit. Yeah. So it's
<v Speaker 2>it's well, you took to it pretty well though, so
<v Speaker 2>that's good. Oh.
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. I thought it was super cool. I uh,
<v Speaker 1>funny enough. I I you know, I see a lot
<v Speaker 1>of people that also like maybe that's the first fire
<v Speaker 1>Pro gam and they don't quite understand it. But I
<v Speaker 1>never had that problem. Like I understood exactly what they
<v Speaker 1>were going for right away.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's like this is.
<v Speaker 1>Fucking sweet, Like I can create and do I guess
<v Speaker 1>maybe because like when we were growing up, we had
<v Speaker 1>to put more imagination into the games. So like, I
<v Speaker 1>don't see it as super face value as that I
<v Speaker 1>can kind of in my head, it's a little more expansive,
<v Speaker 1>I guess if that's a good way to put it.
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of clicked with.
<v Speaker 1>Fire Pro right away. I never had a problem with that,
<v Speaker 1>but I have heard people are, you know, if they
<v Speaker 1>have to take the games at like straight face value,
<v Speaker 1>they have trouble with fire Pro Am.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean if you've only played we games forever, right,
<v Speaker 2>or like that's the only thing you really like, like
<v Speaker 2>especially simulation style, like yeah, just yeah, I mean like
<v Speaker 2>it's so fucking fine, Like it's so it's funny. I've
<v Speaker 2>been seeing them pop up on my TikTok lately. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>just like fire Pro World propaganda videos are like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>this game is the best fucking game ever. I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>holy shit, maybe it is. I want to play this again. Yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I love the fire programs. There's, like I said, there's
<v Speaker 2>so many that I haven't touched that I I do
<v Speaker 2>want to. But if i'm if I'm picking, I'm fire
<v Speaker 2>Pro World is is fucking the perfect fire Pro game
<v Speaker 2>for me. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I've put a ton of hours in the world, man, like.
<v Speaker 2>We gotta play I kind of.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even when we're not creating content, Like there's
<v Speaker 1>so many times where just chilling just have Fire Pro up,
<v Speaker 1>just fucking playing.
<v Speaker 2>We did that, Like I don't remember when that was,
<v Speaker 2>but that was like, uh, it might have been before
<v Speaker 2>Roger or Visportez was broke for us and we were
<v Speaker 2>like doing that in the DPW ring and fire thro.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was actually you know, I guess we can
<v Speaker 1>pull the curtain back a little bit here.
<v Speaker 2>Sure.
<v Speaker 1>But with DPW initially, like when we were first setting up,
<v Speaker 1>like how we want like the ring and everything to
<v Speaker 1>look no joke, like, went into Photoshop, created the assets,
<v Speaker 1>loaded it into fire Pro World, put it on the ring. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and then we said, yep, this is the one.
<v Speaker 2>I remember I was at I remember I was at
<v Speaker 2>Deb's parents house on my laptop and we were talking
<v Speaker 2>about it and you were like, man, like, how should
<v Speaker 2>this look? And I don't. It was one of our
<v Speaker 2>ideas that said what would like what does this look
<v Speaker 2>like in fire Pro? And then you just booted up
<v Speaker 2>and like did it? And we were like, ah, I
<v Speaker 2>think I do think there was a couple of changes
<v Speaker 2>we made too, because I was.
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, we tried a couple of different mats, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>turn buckles, we tried all orange tropes, yeah, all orange, and.
<v Speaker 2>Then ultimately yeah, so like the first DPW ring before
<v Speaker 2>it came to existence, before we put any orders.
<v Speaker 1>Was the fire Fro Creation, which is fucking pretty cool. Yeah, no, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and then we just kind of ran a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>matches in it, like it just became like our default
<v Speaker 1>fucking round offline ring. And we have one more question
<v Speaker 1>here from Pickles.
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I just love saying that words.
<v Speaker 1>No, I just love saying pickles. Pickles asks, what are
<v Speaker 1>your favorite current bands?
<v Speaker 2>Slayer like fucking I don't know, Ozzy Osbourne.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, here's the deal, Like Park, we're in our thirties.
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're in our thirties. The music we listen
<v Speaker 1>to is just the music that we listened to.
<v Speaker 2>When we were young.
<v Speaker 1>Again true, I mean I have some favorite current bands.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you really thought about it, I bet
<v Speaker 1>you could figure out some.
<v Speaker 2>Bet I mean, wish I listened to a lot now
<v Speaker 2>they're like, yeah, there you go. There's one knock Loose
<v Speaker 2>I've been you know. Yeah, knock Loose is a great
<v Speaker 2>when I listen to them too. Who else do I
<v Speaker 2>funk with? Let me say, I'm I'm trying to actually
<v Speaker 2>look through my uh my fucking because there's some I do.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you go to on repeat, you can probably
<v Speaker 1>find some bands or something that like maybe you uh.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot that's even the thing. Well,
<v Speaker 2>there's some old bands I like that, Like AFI has
<v Speaker 2>been doing some stuff that I actually like. There's still
<v Speaker 2>I've done recently. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're still dope. Those
<v Speaker 2>are the three that I probably. I mean, Ghost obviously,
<v Speaker 2>that's fucking you know good Lord of course.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're super into Ghost.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I I you know, I could uh,
<v Speaker 2>I could give or take their the album they came
<v Speaker 2>out with last, but you know there's I still still
<v Speaker 2>like them. Sure, yeah, what about you? Who else do you?
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's something that we have.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been listening to Heart to Gold a lot recently.
<v Speaker 1>Locke Shut is another band that I've been listening to
<v Speaker 1>a lot recently. Tiger's Jaw has a new album coming out.
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for that. Oh yeah, Dying Wish, Knock Loose
<v Speaker 1>like you said, or bands now listen to pretty regularly.
<v Speaker 1>Guilt Trip is a good band. Oh I like Guilt Trip,
<v Speaker 1>yeah as much as.
<v Speaker 2>I like this. Oh you've you've told me about them? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they have some I think they're recording a new
<v Speaker 1>album now or or doing something like that. So Hot
<v Speaker 1>Mulligan's new stuff is good. They make Kyle Fletcher's theme song.
<v Speaker 2>Dad likes Hot Mulligan. I just got her like Hot
<v Speaker 2>Mulligan merch for Christmas. She just got into them heavy.
<v Speaker 2>So that's I heard them a bit too. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been listening to them for a minute. I
<v Speaker 1>was surprised they were the band that broke through. Uh.
<v Speaker 1>And it's just I think it's the same deal with
<v Speaker 1>knock Loose. Like when I was listening to Hot Mulligan,
<v Speaker 1>a big hang up for like a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>at the time was like this guy sounds fucking just different,
<v Speaker 1>Like he just sounds sure, not like a band that
<v Speaker 1>would break through to like a mainstream audience. But they did,
<v Speaker 1>you know. And like, I don't know if there's been
<v Speaker 1>a band as hot as Hot Mulligan since, like the
<v Speaker 1>story so far, broke through when I.
<v Speaker 2>Was in high school. No, I don't think so. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>like they they get like radio radio play, right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're doing super well, which is awesome to see.
<v Speaker 2>Do this funny there was a band it just showed up.
<v Speaker 2>I was doing like a fucking Spotify like radio game
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and H two O showed up. But I
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh this, I know I've heard of this
<v Speaker 2>fucking man, like a buddy of mine, my buddy Dan,
<v Speaker 2>like would tell me about them all the time. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'll listen. There's stuff I'm like, oh, this is dope,
<v Speaker 2>Like one of the last time they did anything. Okay, man,
<v Speaker 2>that's been like almost ten years.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I mean, I mean with music ten years
<v Speaker 1>is still active, you know. But yeah, knock Loose was
<v Speaker 1>the same way as Hot Mulligan. Like I remember when
<v Speaker 1>I first started listening to Knock Loose, you know, the
<v Speaker 1>big hang up for everybody too was like the lead
<v Speaker 1>singer of this band sounds crazy like this, that's like
<v Speaker 1>this won't work.
<v Speaker 2>And then that's another band that I heard of, dude,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, unbelievably working. And like that's a band
<v Speaker 2>I heard of forever ago too, from my fucking buddy Dan,
<v Speaker 2>my buddy Dan, and you actually probably have a lot
<v Speaker 2>of Yeah, he's like a you know, New Jersey hardcore guy,
<v Speaker 2>so like that's you know, I'm sure it's pretty close
<v Speaker 2>to all the ship you like. But yeah, he was
<v Speaker 2>talking to me, tell me about them forever ago, and
<v Speaker 2>like then we saw him, I was like, oh, this
<v Speaker 2>is Okay, this makes sense. I like this, Who's who's
<v Speaker 2>playing in Japan when we're and right, yes, that's it was, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>which is pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>And that's all the questions we got. Thank you guys,
<v Speaker 1>so much unbelievable. All right, let us get into the
<v Speaker 1>very first episode of the very first season of Lucha Underground.
<v Speaker 2>I was going to try to do like this, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I usually say a song here, but they only are
<v Speaker 2>known for the bumper sound burn b yeah, which I
<v Speaker 2>don't even know if it's a sound that they use
<v Speaker 2>on this first episode. I don't know if that's established yet.
<v Speaker 1>It's like a different I think I heard it at
<v Speaker 1>the very beginning okay, yeah, at the very beginning of
<v Speaker 1>the show. Right, it does go right into that very beginning.
<v Speaker 2>Burn, which sets the stage for what we come to
<v Speaker 2>expect it for Luca Underground. Just whatever. All the time,
<v Speaker 2>this has been actually a highly requested retro, and I
<v Speaker 2>think maybe we avoided it because it made me feel
<v Speaker 2>old because this is twenty fourteen we're talking about here,
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, wow, okay, like, I guess that
<v Speaker 2>isn't kind of the area because we've done twenty fourteen teen.
<v Speaker 2>A's so like, I guess it's fair play, but it
<v Speaker 2>just feels wrong because I watched this. I watched this
<v Speaker 2>when it aired, so I feel just like an old
<v Speaker 2>piece of shit. Well, let's talk about what was going
<v Speaker 2>on in the world wrestling time with the Wrestling Observer newsletter.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do it a little different. I did this
<v Speaker 2>for XWF, so if you've listened to those, it's kind
<v Speaker 2>of like that. I'm gonna go kind of over a
<v Speaker 2>time period here of just the Observer talking about the
<v Speaker 2>formation of Lucha Underground, what it was gonna like. You know,
<v Speaker 2>the first idea is that YadA YadA, YadA, kind of
<v Speaker 2>just the dripped news feed of what we were looking
<v Speaker 2>at the time, just to get an idea of what
<v Speaker 2>things were looking like going into this first episode. So
<v Speaker 2>from The Observer. January twentieth, twenty fourteen. The official announcement
<v Speaker 2>of Triple A's attempt to break into the US market
<v Speaker 2>and a television deal with the new l Ray Network. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>came over the weekend when Scott Sasa L Ray Networks
<v Speaker 2>vice chairman, made the announcement on January twelfth at a
<v Speaker 2>press tour. I'm at the point in my career where
<v Speaker 2>I could probably try anything, said Burnett at the announcement.
<v Speaker 2>Burnett is god afrigat.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, don't even executive producer.
<v Speaker 2>Is that what it was? I think that's right. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I forget his first name here, I had it written down,
<v Speaker 2>but he he's done a lot of stuff. He did
<v Speaker 2>he like produced like Survivor and a lot of popular shows.
<v Speaker 2>So I think, uh, he's like pretty much saying here
<v Speaker 2>like I can do whatever, and I wanted to try wrestling,
<v Speaker 2>which I thought was pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, this is definitely an interesting take on it.
<v Speaker 1>You can kind of feel right away that there's a
<v Speaker 1>big vision here for what this should be.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he says, uh, why wouldn't you bring Mexico's number
<v Speaker 2>two sport to America? This is a long term, big
<v Speaker 2>play for us. And also they said besides the weekly
<v Speaker 2>television show, there would be a variety of major wrestling
<v Speaker 2>TV specials on the station, which they did do like
<v Speaker 2>Ultimate Luca and Shure like that, as well story lines
<v Speaker 2>building around building two pay per V shows, which I
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't think they did pay per view if
<v Speaker 2>I'm not mistaken. Okay, it's always just like a big
<v Speaker 2>special one.
<v Speaker 1>I guess in twenty fourteen, at the time pay per
<v Speaker 1>views were tough. A lot of people were trying Ie
<v Speaker 1>pay per views was on the horizon, sh'll go live.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was not working.
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, it was awful.
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know fuck yeah, I mean, god damn, I'll
<v Speaker 1>never forget the Wrestle Kingdom on Fight just unbelievably bad,
<v Speaker 1>to the point.
<v Speaker 2>Where it was funded everybody. I mean even at the
<v Speaker 2>same time. Yeah, go what would it go? Was it
<v Speaker 2>go fight live? That was the other one, right?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>I think was that the one?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was fucking bad. Like that killed r O
<v Speaker 2>H for a minute.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean New Japan was streaming on U stream.
<v Speaker 1>I do you guys even.
<v Speaker 2>My god? Yeah, dude, the first stream I ever did
<v Speaker 2>was on U stream.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean people would get the U stream and
<v Speaker 1>then restream it ad justin TV just because you stream
<v Speaker 1>is so fun.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now just says The television show will be built
<v Speaker 2>around a storyline where they will introduce five baby face
<v Speaker 2>stars to build the American brand around. The idea is
<v Speaker 2>the wrestlers have discovered that there is a plot to
<v Speaker 2>destroy Lucha Libre and somehow because they knew too much.
<v Speaker 2>The powers that be have exiled them to the United States.
<v Speaker 2>That kind of changes, It does change, yeah, yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>some more of like the Aztec tribe kind of thing
<v Speaker 2>where they're all kind of coming together. But so that's
<v Speaker 2>that's the first like press release about Luca Underground. Doesn't
<v Speaker 2>have a name yet. It's just a Triple A product
<v Speaker 2>that the l RAY Network is bringing to America. So
<v Speaker 2>that's January of twenty fourteen. Then the next time we
<v Speaker 2>hear about it is July twenty first, twenty fourteen. The
<v Speaker 2>Observer says the l RAY Network announced on seven to
<v Speaker 2>nine at the Television Critics Association Press Junket that they
<v Speaker 2>would be airing a one hour Wednesday night show starting
<v Speaker 2>on October eighth. The show is tentatively easy for me
<v Speaker 2>to say, titled Lucha Uprising and would feature the stars
<v Speaker 2>of Triple A and be produced by Mark Burnett of
<v Speaker 2>Survivor Fang. There we go, Mark Burnett. They only announced
<v Speaker 2>there would be eight episodes for the first season, so
<v Speaker 2>they're not treating a traditional wrestling show with a weekly commitment,
<v Speaker 2>but more like a seasonal reality show. No word on
<v Speaker 2>when the first taping will take place past the point.
<v Speaker 2>The date has been changed at least once, so this
<v Speaker 2>date does change, doesn't air October eighth. But Lucha Uprising
<v Speaker 2>was the first name of this fucking show, not Luca Underground.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Luca Underground is great branding, especially with the temple
<v Speaker 1>that they end up using and the things that they
<v Speaker 1>do here in La I believe is where they're filming
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, that's right. So yeah, I mean the
<v Speaker 1>biggest strength of Lucha Underground was its branding and its feeling.
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's what most people remember from this show,
<v Speaker 1>is like the very unique setting and the very unique
<v Speaker 1>items and branding the feel to bring to the table.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's, uh, you know, that was a big
<v Speaker 2>part of this. I mean, that's it seemed like that
<v Speaker 2>was the vision from the start that they were going
<v Speaker 2>to try to do like a television show instead of
<v Speaker 2>just like a wrestling show, which doesn't always work.
<v Speaker 1>But super interesting, but yeah, it doesn't work a lot.
<v Speaker 2>So here's the next part. Next time we hear about
<v Speaker 2>Lucha Uprising from The Observer August twenty fifth, twenty fourteen,
<v Speaker 2>So jumping a little closer to debut here, Meltzer says,
<v Speaker 2>as things stand right now. They'll be doing TV tapings
<v Speaker 2>for the l RAY Network on September sixth and September
<v Speaker 2>seventh from a sound stage studio warehouse in Boyle Heights,
<v Speaker 2>a part of Los Angeles. The scheduled debut on the
<v Speaker 2>l RAY Network is on October eighth, in a Wednesday
<v Speaker 2>night time slot. From the little bits that have come out,
<v Speaker 2>the idea from the money and the production people at
<v Speaker 2>l RAY is to do something completely different from any
<v Speaker 2>pro wrestling or Lucha libre. There are two writers working
<v Speaker 2>on the season, one of whom has never worked in wrestling,
<v Speaker 2>and the other is Christopher to Joseph, who spent years
<v Speaker 2>in w as a writer and also played the character
<v Speaker 2>Big Dick Judson. Oh Wow, yes though with the Sandman
<v Speaker 2>guy Yeah, oiled up, oiled up for Lucha Libre, which
<v Speaker 2>somehow doesn't make it on the show.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they had him at the Junket.
<v Speaker 2>He was. He was doing the Singapore Cane spot at
<v Speaker 2>the Junket with the l RAY team.
<v Speaker 1>And a big part of our upcoming Luca Uprising.
<v Speaker 2>The show.
<v Speaker 1>Big Dick just said, all right, we're gonna call it
<v Speaker 1>Luca Underground. This guy is not coming within one hundred.
<v Speaker 2>Yards in kick this guy's fucking ass, actually chade him outside.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want take him back there, take the oil
<v Speaker 1>off of them, and then beat.
<v Speaker 2>The pow wow things. James has never said take the
<v Speaker 2>oil off that.
<v Speaker 1>We need the oil. Just take the oil, beat this
<v Speaker 1>guy to death of the ammers.
<v Speaker 2>Melzer says it will not be like Triple A Wrestling
<v Speaker 2>in Mexico, but we'll use some of the stars of
<v Speaker 2>Triple A along with p tw BG stars. Names that
<v Speaker 2>we've heard confirmed from the show include Ricky Reyes, Joey Ryan,
<v Speaker 2>Chavo Grower, Junior That's What's Wrong, Sean Hanna Gone aka
<v Speaker 2>John Morrison.
<v Speaker 1>Stars, Ricky Rayes, Joey Ryan, shav Ger her name.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah Phoenix, and John Hennegan. Also don't forget if our
<v Speaker 2>Berto del Rio can get his non compete overturned, he'll
<v Speaker 2>likely be pushes the big star fairly quick. Dude.
<v Speaker 1>I am so glad the show wasn't whatever.
<v Speaker 2>This was. Wow, This like was really scary at the
<v Speaker 2>start here.
<v Speaker 1>Huh Yeah, I mean we see Ricky rays on this show.
<v Speaker 2>Listen, mad respect for Ricky Reyes, but how the hell
<v Speaker 2>is he the first.
<v Speaker 1>Ricky Reyez? I mean, if there's one thing Ricky Rayez
<v Speaker 1>is gonna do, it's find a fucking job in wrestling.
<v Speaker 2>He's getting bunked.
<v Speaker 1>Ye, He's gonna get a fucking job in wrestling. Like
<v Speaker 1>that's like all wrestling is is like literally your ability
<v Speaker 1>to be booked. So uh, Ricky ray As was very
<v Speaker 1>good at that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. From The Observer, September one, twenty fourteen. A month
<v Speaker 2>later here. The long talked about debut of pro wrestling
<v Speaker 2>on the fledgling l Ray network was officially announced in
<v Speaker 2>a press release by the network on August twenty seventh,
<v Speaker 2>with the first television taping taking place on September six
<v Speaker 2>at a studio and Boil Heights. Mark Burnett's one to
<v Speaker 2>three Media Yeah, which has produced such as The Survivor
<v Speaker 2>of the Voice and Celebrity Apprentice, will be behind the
<v Speaker 2>project that is going to be called Luca Undergrounds. So
<v Speaker 2>now we finally have a name change here. I wonder.
<v Speaker 2>I think luc Undergrounds is way better name, by the way,
<v Speaker 2>But I wonder what made them change it up.
<v Speaker 1>I think because the show probably changed a little bitity yeah, right, Like,
<v Speaker 1>how can we present what the show is going to
<v Speaker 1>be like to the audience and Uprising definitely doesn't really
<v Speaker 1>follow the same branding rules as Underground would for sure.
<v Speaker 2>The decision was made a tape in a small area
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to a major arena in Mexico or the
<v Speaker 2>Southwest in an attempt to create the kind of atmosphere
<v Speaker 2>that PBG shows in the area have generated. So that's
<v Speaker 2>you know, gritty and small building. I mean, that's no ac.
<v Speaker 1>The guy that runs in hates everyone there.
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a little bit to say about that, jails
<v Speaker 2>because from the Observer September eighth, twenty fourteen, it might
<v Speaker 2>actually be one of these next ones, but there is
<v Speaker 2>talk of the actual place that they run here being
<v Speaker 2>not that great. Aside from website listings, some online tweets
<v Speaker 2>and posts and flyers on the cars of those who
<v Speaker 2>attended the p TOBG shows over the weekend in Rosita,
<v Speaker 2>and some posted signs in the area, there doesn't seem
<v Speaker 2>to be much publicity for the weekend tapings. There are
<v Speaker 2>a lot of complaints going around regarding the contracts offered
<v Speaker 2>as well. The wording of the contracts includes exclusivity for
<v Speaker 2>seven television seasons, which scares people regarding how long seven
<v Speaker 2>seasons could be given. It could be and probably means
<v Speaker 2>seven years if this first off.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, seven years for seven seasons is already super optimistic.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at the way television is produced today,
<v Speaker 1>seven seasons would legit take fifteen years. I'm not fucking.
<v Speaker 2>Kidding, dude, I mean it would legit. This last this
<v Speaker 2>last what four years? I guess they get four years
<v Speaker 2>out of force, you know, four seasons, but like you know,
<v Speaker 2>I can't.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who knows, dude, pandemic hits. The way
<v Speaker 1>TV is produced has changed forever. They would be locked
<v Speaker 1>into these contracts to this to this.
<v Speaker 2>Day, they would have been on the Brett Hart deal.
<v Speaker 1>Like it would have been horrible. I remember, yeah, the
<v Speaker 1>breakdown on these contracts because a lot of guys were
<v Speaker 1>signed to these long term deals and like the business
<v Speaker 1>had changed so much over that time, and people so
<v Speaker 1>quick begging to get out of these loocha underground contracts
<v Speaker 1>just beg.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, I mean especially once AW pops up, right, yeah, like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you know NXT's popping off. Aw's fucking
<v Speaker 2>coming around the corner. Like these guys. Ricochet is stuck
<v Speaker 2>in a seven year deal. I remember that being a
<v Speaker 2>big fucking deal all the time, like him trying to
<v Speaker 2>get out of that. There were a few other people
<v Speaker 2>that were, like, you know, Brian Cage I think might
<v Speaker 2>have been one of those. Yeah, you know, because tn
<v Speaker 2>A is still doing shit too, you know, TENA is
<v Speaker 2>always fucking doing something. They you know, people were trying
<v Speaker 2>to go this, that and the other. And seven years
<v Speaker 2>is that's I mean Stone Cold wasn't even on top
<v Speaker 2>for seven years.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean every era you've ever liked in wrestling
<v Speaker 1>probably didn't last seven years.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just like when you look at it
<v Speaker 1>and you break it down, like in twenty fourteen specifically,
<v Speaker 1>it probably seemed okay, you know, like, yeah, I don't
<v Speaker 1>really know what the landscape of wrestling looks like. It
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like it's gonna get much better for the
<v Speaker 1>guys that are in ROH or doing PWG. You know,
<v Speaker 1>like maybe one or two guys makes it to WWE,
<v Speaker 1>but that's kind of always been the case. Yeah, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>in the next few years, I mean it is literally
<v Speaker 1>a max It is literally a mass exodus of indie
<v Speaker 1>guys two big companies. Yeah, right, And you make a
<v Speaker 1>good point. Wait, aw comes around. I mean they're signing
<v Speaker 1>anyone that's available at that point.
<v Speaker 2>Holy, I mean, dude, especially if you work in California.
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah. So Meltzer says if this goes nowhere, but
<v Speaker 2>saysn't exist as much of the talent doesn't want their
<v Speaker 2>careers paralyzed or to make a commitment that pretty much
<v Speaker 2>well kills their dreams of going we for so many years.
<v Speaker 2>On August twenty nine, five number of wrestlers offered contracts
<v Speaker 2>were told that it was a now a take it
<v Speaker 2>or leave its situation and told they had a deadline
<v Speaker 2>of September second to sign or their roles would be recasted. Yeah. Man,
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's also so there's a name specifically that
<v Speaker 2>we I mentioned here in that other one, Hernandez. No, well,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, dude, oh my god, the rock showed up
<v Speaker 2>would have done wonders for everybody. Fuck the contracts.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have six days to sign this fucking contract
<v Speaker 1>or we're recasting your role to Ricky Reyaz.
<v Speaker 2>And it'll be a way better rock than you or Bud.
<v Speaker 2>So Hernandez does go to Luca Underground, but it's not
<v Speaker 2>like he was supposed to be on this like first
<v Speaker 2>turn of it, and I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>What hernandez entire second part of his career is him
<v Speaker 1>being fucked up in these contract deals.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fun.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, good lord, the Lucha Underground deal and then
<v Speaker 1>what kind of deal he had with TNA, Yeah, the
<v Speaker 1>TNA deal. Yeah, good lord. There was just so much
<v Speaker 1>going on.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he always was kind of going through it. But
<v Speaker 2>I like Hernandez. I kind of wish he would have
<v Speaker 2>been on this early.
<v Speaker 1>I loved the first half of Hernandez's career, oh my god, Like,
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely adore it. I think it's one of the
<v Speaker 1>best like tag runs that TNA ever had for anyone ever.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was ever able to recapture
<v Speaker 1>that lightning in a bottle that him and Homicide.
<v Speaker 2>Had Homicide, Yeah, yeah, I mean.
<v Speaker 1>How many guys even get to have that lightning at
<v Speaker 1>a bottle, you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, right, Like Lax will be remembered forever as like
<v Speaker 2>the best tag team of that time, which is crazy
<v Speaker 2>because there was a lot of great tag teams, and.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, had a good gaggle of tag that's a good word.
<v Speaker 2>I like that. A couple more things here as we
<v Speaker 2>round out, going into the debut here from The Observer
<v Speaker 2>September fifteenth, twenty fourteen, So the show has been taped.
<v Speaker 2>The first show was taped in a largely empty studio
<v Speaker 2>with a few wrestling fans at most extras, maybe one
<v Speaker 2>hundred people in total, who were mostly hired to be
<v Speaker 2>studio audiences at television shows and were being paid nine
<v Speaker 2>dollars to act as fans, but in a building with
<v Speaker 2>no air conditioning and them having no emotional attachment, they
<v Speaker 2>just sat there. For the most part, there weren't even
<v Speaker 2>enough to come close to filling the building. Aside from
<v Speaker 2>wrestling websites and social media, the only word regarding tickets
<v Speaker 2>was flyers put on cars at the PDBG Battle of
<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles shows the previous week. Dude, Okay, before I
<v Speaker 2>continue starting a show, a wrestling show seemingly in the
<v Speaker 2>vicinity of PWG a week after the Battle of Los Angeles,
<v Speaker 2>like you're fuck dude.
<v Speaker 1>You know I was gonna talk about it later in
<v Speaker 1>this show, But I also just want to remind you
<v Speaker 1>this is Roddy on Top era PWG. This is the
<v Speaker 1>champs here, Roddy erawg uh, I mean, this is an
<v Speaker 1>unreal time for them. Yeah, I mean maybe maybe the
<v Speaker 1>idea here is like they're trying to capture that same deal.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, PWG was so fucking hot at this point,
<v Speaker 1>I mean untouchable. Yeah, I like it's hard to explain
<v Speaker 1>if you weren't like just kind of caught up in
<v Speaker 1>that deal there. But like they were so high and
<v Speaker 1>it was just a fucking once a month indie running
<v Speaker 1>in LA and yeah, it was just so unbelievable, and
<v Speaker 1>like the deal is. I think they saw that and
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you know, maybe we can try to I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's what they read here and there a ways was
<v Speaker 1>you know, they saw that and they were like, let's
<v Speaker 1>try to like capture that same feeling here. It's just
<v Speaker 1>hard to do. I mean, like there's only one PWG man.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, dude, I'm coming out coming out of twenty
<v Speaker 2>fourteen Bowler and I come outside and on my car
<v Speaker 2>there's a picture of Traval Guerrero. I'm fucking double stomping
<v Speaker 2>by Winchild. Dude, I mean, yeah, the fucking yeah, I'm
<v Speaker 2>in a POBG show. The only P two BG guy
<v Speaker 2>you got on this flyers Joey Ryan, I'm stopping by
<v Speaker 2>fucking Witch with the fucking away from me. I'm showing
<v Speaker 2>it to the Super Dragon. He's fucking kicking my windshielding
<v Speaker 2>now too, Like we're both really mad.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I cannot believe that Super Dragon was not a
<v Speaker 1>part of this fucking deal. I mean, I know by
<v Speaker 1>that point Super Dragon was kind of semi retired, he
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to dowg But I mean, would have been
<v Speaker 1>a fucking vibe. Yeah, what if it was Ricky Reya's
<v Speaker 1>little cholo and Super Dragon. That would have been fucking nuts.
<v Speaker 1>And they come in and they stomp dude shoot style
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of this fucking.
<v Speaker 2>Ring, even if he was just their boss, Like, holy shit,
<v Speaker 2>it's super Dragon and he's in the masking dude fingers, Yeah, what.
<v Speaker 1>If it was What if it was super Dragon? Ricky
<v Speaker 1>rays a little cello and they beat them, but then
<v Speaker 1>they learn, oh my god, they were actually a part
<v Speaker 1>of a bigger deal.
<v Speaker 2>I mean nuts, dude, Yeah, And like, why the fuck not? Right,
<v Speaker 2>Like they just invent dudes on this show. They could
<v Speaker 2>even if you don't know Super Dragon, this is a
<v Speaker 2>fucking like a show show. They could just make. Oh
<v Speaker 2>my god, super Dragon, everyone knows him. I'm equato fucking
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, the fucking my answers has talked about
<v Speaker 2>this guy dude, right, Like for.
<v Speaker 1>The fans who know who Super Dragon is, they'd be like,
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, this is super crazy. Like what I'm looking
<v Speaker 1>at this is.
<v Speaker 2>Super super Dragon? Why super crazy? Not here? Yes?
<v Speaker 1>Right, okay? What if they took down Super Dragon and
<v Speaker 1>then they go to a guy that's even higher than
<v Speaker 1>him and it's super crazy?
<v Speaker 2>Fucking shit, Oh my god, oh my god.
<v Speaker 1>These are the questions they keep you up at night.
<v Speaker 2>And then finally at the top of the fucking food
<v Speaker 2>Champon's super Eric.
<v Speaker 1>He's locked in for a twenty year deal in Lucia Underground.
<v Speaker 2>He's in seven.
<v Speaker 1>Guys. I hate to tell you, but I'm never leaving
<v Speaker 1>this place, and neither are you.
<v Speaker 2>Ah. That's how it ends the season.
<v Speaker 1>What what, what really should have happened is they should
<v Speaker 1>have started with Blue Daymon and Chavo. Blue Daymon uh
<v Speaker 1>Pole drives him straight off the apron to the floor,
<v Speaker 1>and then Super Dragon walks out and Curb stomps him
<v Speaker 1>into the concrete and then Blue Super Dragon dap up
<v Speaker 1>like Dylan and Arnold.
<v Speaker 2>And Sean has both of them in the hot tub
<v Speaker 2>on YouTube next week.
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, fucking Curbs Thompson the daft up right, it pans out,
<v Speaker 1>give me the long shot and here's Deshawn's two cents
<v Speaker 1>with Conan and the hot tub. So tell me about
<v Speaker 1>this Prince Puma guy.
<v Speaker 2>Wow. I mean, like guys in a tome machine could
<v Speaker 2>have really did something here, you know, like this is
<v Speaker 2>what does scene needed, not fucking Chopper.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm fired up just at the thought of
<v Speaker 1>Blue Damon and super dragging dapping the fuck up, Like
<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing.
<v Speaker 2>You see on the show that would be I mean, Natalie,
<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen.
<v Speaker 6>Doesn't happen today, yell, oh shit Dragon, He's just there,
<v Speaker 6>he stands up out of the crowd.
<v Speaker 2>Sho. I do by the way, that there was the
<v Speaker 2>first person that they considered for commentary. Please just I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure you know it's every company ever has considered this
<v Speaker 2>guy for the commentary. Who good Old Jr? Oh my god, really,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, my god, oh shit. Meltzer says there
<v Speaker 2>were virtually no Hispanic fans at the first show, but
<v Speaker 2>Blue Daimon Jr. And Dorian Rowland on Twitter promoted the
<v Speaker 2>second night of the tapings and gave the address, just
<v Speaker 2>telling fans to show up. Blue Daimon Junior posted addresses
<v Speaker 2>show the fuck up, bitch if you dare. There was
<v Speaker 2>a part here I didn't include, but there was a
<v Speaker 2>bit of a so I guess Chavo and Conan were
<v Speaker 2>two of the agents, and uh, Chalvo was telling him
<v Speaker 2>to do a more WB style and to slow it
<v Speaker 2>down and not to do a bunch of shit, and
<v Speaker 2>Conan was saying, you guys got to do P two
<v Speaker 2>BG shit and go crazy, right.
<v Speaker 1>I mean twenty fourteen, like I was, I swear to god,
<v Speaker 1>I was super I was just super jaded. I wanted
<v Speaker 1>Big Bomb wrestling. Of course, I didn't want anything that
<v Speaker 1>resembled WWE at the time. Oh and like, while I
<v Speaker 1>can understand maybe where child is going from, I would
<v Speaker 1>never say I want you to wrestle more like the WWE.
<v Speaker 1>I think the better way to say it was, maybe,
<v Speaker 1>you know, we figure out how to like do some
<v Speaker 1>different shit differently, right. I would never ever start a
<v Speaker 1>conversation with let's wrestle like the WWE.
<v Speaker 2>Especially a division guy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think there's just a lot of negative connotation
<v Speaker 1>that comes with that. I I mean, like, if I
<v Speaker 1>look at it earnestly. I understand what he was trying
<v Speaker 1>to say, but I all.
<v Speaker 2>Sure, of course it's not just.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just recoil when I hear wrestle like the WWE,
<v Speaker 1>it just sounds like just shit it up tonight for me, fellas.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just take it easy tonight, right, Yeah, And which
<v Speaker 2>is not I don't it's it's not what he meant.
<v Speaker 1>It's not what he meant, but it's like break.
<v Speaker 2>That's the connotation though.
<v Speaker 1>Because like for the longest time it was like I'm
<v Speaker 1>so fucking sick of hearing yeah right, yeah, right, like
<v Speaker 1>I don't want this ship to.
<v Speaker 2>Be w W e h if if you want to put
<v Speaker 2>it that way.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it's like a natural.
<v Speaker 2>Started doing that. It made me mad.
<v Speaker 1>Like anytime I heard it, I was like, oh, fuck
<v Speaker 1>this guy, you know, like fuck you, yes, the fuck
<v Speaker 1>out of the business, you know, Like it was just yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it was just like at the time, like I think
<v Speaker 1>I was just I was super jaded.
<v Speaker 2>I was young.
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of fucking spite in me, like yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and I was ready to see the fucking next generation
<v Speaker 1>of wrestling. I had already seen the ship they were
<v Speaker 1>doing at w W you know, I was like, fuck,
<v Speaker 1>I'm sick of this, Like I was, yeah, right, So
<v Speaker 1>definitely the right call. From what I understand. Luca Underground
<v Speaker 1>changes quite a bit in season two and season three
<v Speaker 1>percent I never got a season two or season.
<v Speaker 2>Three even season one, to be honest with.
<v Speaker 1>You, Yeah, maybe, you know, I've only seen so many
<v Speaker 1>episodes of this, so I would be interested maybe one
<v Speaker 1>day as we make our way through Lucha Underground to
<v Speaker 1>see more of this, because I know a lot of
<v Speaker 1>people hold this in high regard and like, at some level,
<v Speaker 1>I am kind of said that I never gave it
<v Speaker 1>the lighted day back then because I think I probably
<v Speaker 1>would have had a lot of like good memories of it.
<v Speaker 2>Well, we watch matches on the fucking Patreon, right, and
<v Speaker 2>there's no context, and then you watch a full show,
<v Speaker 2>it's like, Okay, this is way different.
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, right, Wrestling in a vacuum is way different
<v Speaker 1>than wrestling in the greater picture.
<v Speaker 2>Right, last thing here before we get into this episode
<v Speaker 2>from The Observer November seventeenth, twenty fourteen. So I was
<v Speaker 2>trying to find the rating for this first show. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't see that he said anything about it, but he
<v Speaker 2>does say lu Underground on eleven to five to twenty
<v Speaker 2>nine thousand viewers, up from about twenty thousand the week before.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm guessing you know, they had like around twenty
<v Speaker 2>thousand for the first show, which, you know, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know what the l Ray network was doing at the
<v Speaker 2>time time, but.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was a lot. I think that
<v Speaker 1>was not.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was considered it was either the
<v Speaker 2>first or second show for the network that week. So
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's obviously was doing well enough that the
<v Speaker 2>last four seasons.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Lray network was definitely not pulling in a
<v Speaker 1>huge numbers. It wasn't in a lot of homes. I
<v Speaker 1>didn't get it at the time.
<v Speaker 2>No, I how the fuck did I?
<v Speaker 1>Dude, you have to remember too, at the time, wow, wow, uh,
<v Speaker 1>like cable networks, people were still people still had TV.
<v Speaker 2>Like we were just.
<v Speaker 1>Coming out the side of streaming. I mean, we're still
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out I pay per views in twenty fourteen.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Yeah, Like it's not it's not there yet.
<v Speaker 2>Like WW network just starts twenty four I have.
<v Speaker 1>I was living in an apartment with my buddy and
<v Speaker 1>a girl I knew from high school.
<v Speaker 2>At the time and U okay, direct TV, maybe Time Warlable.
<v Speaker 1>We had Time Warner Cable. Oh shit, oh my god,
<v Speaker 1>we had Time Warner Cable. And I didn't get the
<v Speaker 1>LRA network, so like I would just have to you know,
<v Speaker 1>I knew how to get online, but like we didn't
<v Speaker 1>have that channel.
<v Speaker 2>Sure, which is nuts. We had all the channels, we
<v Speaker 2>just didn't have that channel. Well you should have called
<v Speaker 2>and said, I want the LRY network. I'm complaining because
<v Speaker 2>Java was on it.
<v Speaker 1>I want the RA network and I want Javo off
<v Speaker 1>the show.
<v Speaker 2>We'll get on that. I was definitely I've definitely had
<v Speaker 2>the LRA network because whatever my dad super legally had
<v Speaker 2>at the time, had.
<v Speaker 5>It, ah, right, right, whatever variation of whatever service the time,
<v Speaker 5>was definitely getting the LRA network and somehow also channels
<v Speaker 5>in Canada and England.
<v Speaker 1>He had that fire stick before the fire stick, Well.
<v Speaker 2>That is it for the observers, Just so you know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't you know, I don't know how much lu I.
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully we'll do some leuch underground in the future, but
<v Speaker 2>I figured, you know, this is the yeah, yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>not many debut episodes we have left in the vault
<v Speaker 2>here so figured get of a little refresherrow leading up
<v Speaker 2>to it. But now let's talk about Luca Underground Season one,
<v Speaker 2>episode one tape September sixth, twenty fourteenth, aired October twenty ninth,
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteenth.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into Lucia Underground Season one, episode one,
<v Speaker 1>The start of a new world. Here in professional wrestling,
<v Speaker 1>we start with the cold open. A dude is fighting
<v Speaker 1>two other dudes and the numbers game is just too much.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is already classic wrestling.
<v Speaker 2>Dudes are kicking ass here. There's a dude in a
<v Speaker 2>hoodie and he's fighting some dudes. There's a Superman punch
<v Speaker 2>thrown until Hoodie Man they get the numbers on them
<v Speaker 2>and they start stomping his ass out. I mean, Hoodie
<v Speaker 2>Man as fucked until Mask Man shows up and Mask
<v Speaker 2>Man is here to fucking help Hoodi Man out and
<v Speaker 2>he's kicking some ass and does it tilt the world
<v Speaker 2>head scissors and a shoot arm drag and then shoot
<v Speaker 2>Wade Barretts.
<v Speaker 1>Finish airplanes spin into wasteland.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, this is uh, you know, they're they're
<v Speaker 2>they're starting off by by showing us, hey, this is
<v Speaker 2>the world that we live in or you know this,
<v Speaker 2>Luca is real here.
<v Speaker 1>The Luca door then puts his hand out to the
<v Speaker 1>guy on the ground and he says, come with me.
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, his mouth didn't move. That was fucking awesome.
<v Speaker 2>He said it through his brain. That's how we do
<v Speaker 2>it here. It's one of the Aztec tribes. Brain tribe.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the Aztec warriors are a big deal in
<v Speaker 1>this show. It's pretty much the basis for Lucha Libra
<v Speaker 1>in Luca Underground, which is pretty much where they kind
<v Speaker 1>of go with every character.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everyone kind of comes from an ancient ancestor of
<v Speaker 2>an Aztec empire, and there's seven tribes. That's the idea here,
<v Speaker 2>seven tribes of their ancestors and the warriors that built
<v Speaker 2>that Aztec empire and the legacy that left behind. And
<v Speaker 2>they asked the guy in the the guy in the
<v Speaker 2>masks asked the guy in the hoodie, what do you
<v Speaker 2>know about Lucia Lebray young Blood checks them immediately, uh,
<v Speaker 2>And he says, for one hundred years, Luca has honored
<v Speaker 2>the ancient traditions of combat, and now it has our
<v Speaker 2>turned to rise. Which I wonder if that was like
<v Speaker 2>a line from the initial name Luca uprising.
<v Speaker 1>They just kept it in oh maybe yeah, which is yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah. Then we see Dario Quato's introduction. He is
<v Speaker 2>the boss in charge here el hefe. So I watched
<v Speaker 2>this when it aired, but I didn't realize that they
<v Speaker 2>did a whole thing here with Triple A, like Dario
<v Speaker 2>was at a Triple A show. I guess unless this
<v Speaker 2>was just taped for this and this that didn't have crowd,
<v Speaker 2>but they made it seem like it did. Where Dario
<v Speaker 2>Cuato says he's opening the doors to his temple to
<v Speaker 2>all of the Triple A Luca doors and he showed
<v Speaker 2>up and he wanted them to compete in America and
<v Speaker 2>he tells presumably the guy in charge of dude, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>they're fucking not thrilled. It didn't seem like and they
<v Speaker 2>he tells presumably the owner of Triple A to sign
<v Speaker 2>this contract and then walk away with all this money.
<v Speaker 2>And there's a bunch of money and the dude just
<v Speaker 2>signs it, and I'm like, oh fuck, does this dude
<v Speaker 2>just comes in and says, give me all your dudes,
<v Speaker 2>and he says yes. Uh. Then we get a shot
<v Speaker 2>of the temple for the first time we see the
<v Speaker 2>inside of it. And then uh, Prince Puma comes out
<v Speaker 2>of a cave much like Jesus. I'm not sure if
<v Speaker 2>that's what they were trying to imply there.
<v Speaker 1>And Blue Damon Jr. Was making the walk.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, and the mask guy asked hoodie guy if
<v Speaker 2>he'll join them, and they shake hands.
<v Speaker 1>So we get the Luca Underground quick intro. Then we
<v Speaker 1>start the show off. We have a crowd shot. I'm sorry,
<v Speaker 1>not a crowd shot. It's more of a city shot here,
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of how every show. What was the
<v Speaker 1>show that, uh that was super popular when we were
<v Speaker 1>growing up, the O Seed.
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember the O C I do remember the OC.
<v Speaker 1>The OC loved doing the overhead city shot into wherever
<v Speaker 1>the guys and girls were talking.
<v Speaker 2>They loved what was the song California be.
<v Speaker 1>Just like Bud Come on.
<v Speaker 2>It's not that fu song?
<v Speaker 1>Right?
<v Speaker 2>Okay?
<v Speaker 1>Well, it starts off with the city shot reminiscent of
<v Speaker 1>all of our yes, all of our favorite shows growing
<v Speaker 1>all of us in Jersey Shore, right. I gotta show
<v Speaker 1>the Farris Wheel and everything, right, So it shows all
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. It even gives us the classic long exposure
<v Speaker 1>shot of the cars going down the street with the lights.
<v Speaker 2>I love that the lights and.
<v Speaker 1>It gives us all the executive producers because they do
<v Speaker 1>not shy away from telling you this is a produced
<v Speaker 1>wrestling TV shot.
<v Speaker 2>Right which is you know, is I'm okay with that
<v Speaker 2>when it's presented that way. I don't like when it's
<v Speaker 2>a mixture. I don't like T and A did that
<v Speaker 2>for a bit where they were kind of mixing, like
<v Speaker 2>they actually became faux Lucha Underground when luc Underground died,
<v Speaker 2>but they were doing like a mixture of like this
<v Speaker 2>is wrestling.
<v Speaker 1>And then you're right, they did.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like Penta was there and Phoenix was there
<v Speaker 2>and like did a lot of that. Ran the kid
<v Speaker 2>over Eddie Kingston king and I think, I think, I
<v Speaker 2>want to say, I mean, you could easily say Rosemary
<v Speaker 2>killed somebody that like probably Lucasaurs died in both companies.
<v Speaker 2>I think, wow, how about that? Yeah, they killed him
<v Speaker 2>a lot.
<v Speaker 1>Regardless, Uh, we we get the executive producer stuff here
<v Speaker 1>to uh to start the show, and then of course
<v Speaker 1>the shot eventually pans around the city until it gets
<v Speaker 1>to the Luca Underground sign, which is above the Temple
<v Speaker 1>Temple which is I believe a warehouse in La So
<v Speaker 1>it's like correct, it's Quato's temple was the way he does.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's supposed to be like a tongue in
<v Speaker 1>cheek thing. But this is a very legendary sign. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>this is I mean, whenever I see someone talk about
<v Speaker 1>Luca Underground, it's usually a picture accompanied by this fucking sign.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had a big banner above the temple I thought,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, cool as fuck. I mean, like, like I
<v Speaker 2>mentioned the Observer, supposedly this was not very fun to
<v Speaker 2>be inside of, but it did have the gritty underground
<v Speaker 2>feel for a show called Luke Underground, like this is
<v Speaker 2>probably exactly where they should be.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we pan into the building. I mean, the crowd
<v Speaker 1>is standing up, they're cheering, there's a band playing. Matt
<v Speaker 1>Striker and Vampiro are here. They're the commentators for Luca Underground,
<v Speaker 1>which sounds insane, I mean when you say it now
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six, Matt Striker and Vampiro are the commentators.
<v Speaker 2>And Matt Striker was obviously released by WWE I believe,
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what happened. And then, like you know,
<v Speaker 2>he was always known as a guy that he loved
<v Speaker 2>wrestling and like he was passionate about it, and I
<v Speaker 2>don't know, at some point it I ended up not
<v Speaker 2>liking it. But I remember the early season the Lutonic Ground.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, this guy like gives a fuck
<v Speaker 2>about this, and like the way he kind of gives
<v Speaker 2>inside here. There's something he says later in the main event.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, that's cool, Like I kind of
<v Speaker 2>like what he's doing in Vampiro, Like there's still obviously,
<v Speaker 2>like this is show one, they're still trying to like
<v Speaker 2>get their footing with each other. There's a lot of
<v Speaker 2>edits on the show in general. But I was like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>like I could see this fucking working out.
<v Speaker 1>They got to figure out the mic levels, dude.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Vampiro's eating his mic. Matt Striker, you know,
<v Speaker 2>Matt Striker worked awe, so I think he fucking got
<v Speaker 2>it and his is fine, but like Vampiro is eating
<v Speaker 2>his mic. Then they have a camera on them on
<v Speaker 2>the table that's like blown out shit, Like I don't
<v Speaker 2>even know why they used it.
<v Speaker 1>I like the camera reminds me of the UFC camera
<v Speaker 1>when it shows Rogan and DC and stuff. Oh, it's
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to be as high quality as the rest.
<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to be like an inside shot, like check
<v Speaker 1>this out.
<v Speaker 2>As bright as fucked it is. It is.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the levels are nuts, but yeah, Vampiro, I mean
<v Speaker 1>pretty much throughout the whole show is pretty much peaking
<v Speaker 1>as Mike to the point in the name that like
<v Speaker 1>it peaks so loud it cuts them off, dude.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's definitely some stuff they retape with them
<v Speaker 2>because this lines are getting garbled.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sucks. And I know, like that's like one
<v Speaker 1>of those deals where like after you're finished because you
<v Speaker 1>just can't save.
<v Speaker 2>That, you just can't say and.
<v Speaker 1>You don't know, right, and so you're like, oh, man,
<v Speaker 1>I did not know that the levels were this fucked.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was a deal. Maybe it's a deal where
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to be. It's supposed to be like an
<v Speaker 1>underground deal and maybe like it's supposed to be gritty
<v Speaker 1>and like we don't care about audio levels here, We're
<v Speaker 1>just here to bring the excitement to you. That was
<v Speaker 1>kind of deals or you know, the deal was fuck,
<v Speaker 1>the levels were not set.
<v Speaker 2>We're forgetting that, I I mean, and to defend them,
<v Speaker 2>which you know, they obviously had a much much, much, much,
<v Speaker 2>much much much larger budget than we ever even got
<v Speaker 2>to blink at. But doing if you know, any kind
<v Speaker 2>of audio stuff at all at a live event is
<v Speaker 2>fucking hard. It's like, you'll, it's so hard. Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 2>I mean, James spent years trying to figure it out,
<v Speaker 2>and you know we still weren't always exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Every show, I was learning something new to like improve
<v Speaker 1>the audio.
<v Speaker 2>And even then, yeah, like so like, you know, for
<v Speaker 2>the commentary thing, it's like, yeah, well, you know, they
<v Speaker 2>should have tested it, testing it before the show and
<v Speaker 2>test like what's happening when you have a crowd and
<v Speaker 2>a ring and all this shit going on, and the
<v Speaker 2>levels of the fucking guys on the mic before and
<v Speaker 2>during the show are night and a completely different yep yep.
<v Speaker 2>So like I you know again, but they do have
<v Speaker 2>a much bigger budget than we ever did, Like you know,
<v Speaker 2>they sure gets the level it does. It probably doesn't
<v Speaker 2>last more than fucking a show or two. Really, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>when they show Matt Striker and Vampio commentary, Vampio does
<v Speaker 2>the all the way down, all the way down.
<v Speaker 1>So we start with the Dario Quota town Hall Uh,
<v Speaker 1>he comes into the ring here, and uh, Vampiro explains
<v Speaker 1>to us that he's not Mexican, He's Spanish, so people
<v Speaker 1>don't like him. That's why they.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this all was like to me. So Dario
<v Speaker 2>comes in the ring like you said, and Matt Schreker says, Vampire,
<v Speaker 2>what do you know about him? Because I don't really
<v Speaker 2>know nothing about this guy? Okay, you guys like all right,
<v Speaker 2>like I you know, I'm suspending, disbelieve you guys fucking
<v Speaker 2>work here. Tell me you don't know this guy at all?
<v Speaker 2>How's that? Why do you work here? Then? And yeah,
<v Speaker 2>like you said, Vampio explains why I don't like him,
<v Speaker 2>and Dario Aquato says, my name is Dario Aquato, Elliah.
<v Speaker 2>I'm the owner of promoter of luch Underground. He's opened
<v Speaker 2>his doors to the best fighters from all over the world,
<v Speaker 2>and he's given them an opportunity to kick ass or
<v Speaker 2>get their ass kick. I said, this is fucking awesome,
<v Speaker 2>all right, cool. This is not a stadium where the
<v Speaker 2>children can share for the heroes. This is at temple
<v Speaker 2>where we honor ancient traditions like courage and honor and
<v Speaker 2>fuck John Sata like you know they want it so
<v Speaker 2>bad to be just a full on anti WWE show here.
<v Speaker 1>Yes guaranteed commentary really hamfested.
<v Speaker 2>Later too, he says that his personal favorite tradition is violence,
<v Speaker 2>which becomes a major theme and Dario it's so funny
<v Speaker 2>because I want I'm pretty sure I watch until season three.
<v Speaker 2>I think spoilers, major spoilers here, cover your ears if
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to know. But I think I stopped
<v Speaker 2>watching when they killed they shot and killed Cuato. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you even know this, James the shoot
<v Speaker 2>and kill Darioquato. Uh and then his dad shows up
<v Speaker 2>to run the temple, which is just Dario in like
<v Speaker 2>a crazy fucking week.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah hmmm.
<v Speaker 2>So like at that point I was, and I think
<v Speaker 2>they changed. They go to a different temple because I
<v Speaker 2>think they got kicked out of the last place. And
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't really love this as much. I
<v Speaker 2>you know, three seasons, I gave it a lot, so
<v Speaker 2>like I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna tape. Yeah, but you know,
<v Speaker 2>Dario is a character I grow to love. I love Darioquato.
<v Speaker 2>He still does shit, right, He's in a fucking MLW.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's right. He's in MLW. I'm not too sure
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing there, but uh, I think it's something. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think it's something similar to walking around with a
<v Speaker 1>briefcase full of money.
<v Speaker 2>Though probably demanding violence, I imagine, because that's when he does
<v Speaker 2>this whole fucking story. He uh. He also says, by
<v Speaker 2>the way, speaking of the briefcase, that the luchador who
<v Speaker 2>impresses him the most will get a signing, and he
<v Speaker 2>opens up the briefcase one hundred thousand dollars. So here's
<v Speaker 2>your chance to get rich or die trying.
<v Speaker 1>I see what he did there. Yeah, that's fifty.
<v Speaker 2>Who's gonna be here tonight? He's performing many.
<v Speaker 1>Man, Wow, that would have been fucking sick.
<v Speaker 2>What a good gimmick though, like fucking already set in
<v Speaker 2>some steaks like they don't have titles yet, but listen,
<v Speaker 2>you show up, you show out. You got one hundred
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. You tell me Super Dragon didn't one hundred
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, Ricky Reyez really needed that money. He
<v Speaker 1>will be here tonight.
<v Speaker 2>Well, he says. The first match represents the foundation of
<v Speaker 2>Lucca Libra because the men competing in it have Luca
<v Speaker 2>in their blood. One of them is good and one
<v Speaker 2>of them sucks. Shit. Welcome to lich Underground.
<v Speaker 1>Matt Schriker on commentary here says, you won't have six
<v Speaker 1>year olds running around in bright T shirts. This is Luca.
<v Speaker 2>Under Who is that about? Oh just the kids that
<v Speaker 2>like John.
<v Speaker 1>C Yeah, so it was, yeah, the John Cena deal
<v Speaker 1>in h twenty fourteen. At the time, people were just
<v Speaker 1>begging for something different.
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, and uh, I mean John Cena showing up
<v Speaker 2>pure to get one hundred thousand dollars would have fucking
<v Speaker 2>been awesome. Though.
<v Speaker 1>Didn't John Cena wear a mask one time?
<v Speaker 2>He was wan Sena because he got fired.
<v Speaker 1>Oh with the purple mask?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>He should have come here and beat the fuck out
<v Speaker 1>of Matt.
<v Speaker 2>Striker, put him in the fucking SDF on the announced table,
<v Speaker 2>which is very tiny, so it would have looked ridiculous.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he should have did that. And then he
<v Speaker 2>should have piled driven Tavo off the apron. And then.
<v Speaker 1>He goes and he beats mass Striker up and he
<v Speaker 1>takes Chava by the leg and drags him out of
<v Speaker 1>the temple. All right, so I'm gonna take this guy
<v Speaker 1>to you guys, have a good time.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Cina can a back to backdown. I got
<v Speaker 2>something for his asks.
<v Speaker 1>So the first match of the evening here, first match
<v Speaker 1>of the promotion is Blue DeMont Junior versus Chavo Guerrero Junior.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Blue Demon Junior cool as fuck. I mean they
<v Speaker 2>run down his history and his dad's history and all
<v Speaker 2>that stuff, and uh, you know, Javo gets the same
<v Speaker 2>thing here, just talking about the Guerrero family and uh
<v Speaker 2>fucking you know, first match, and I can't say, like
<v Speaker 2>it's tough. This probably isn't a the wrong idea, right, Like,
<v Speaker 2>start with two luchadors, like one's a fucking famous luchador
<v Speaker 2>and one's a guy that people would know that if
<v Speaker 2>they watched. We like, this probably isn't wrong, But man,
<v Speaker 2>not the match you probably should start with. They should
<v Speaker 2>have moved some shit around to her.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think Luca Underground was going for I mean,
<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned the observer segment, they were looking for
<v Speaker 1>that PWG style at the time, you know, fast action,
<v Speaker 1>big bombs. I guess I agree with you. I totally
<v Speaker 1>understand where they were going with this.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 1>So, Blue Damon is a legend in Lucha Libre right
<v Speaker 1>and Chavo. I mean, you know, for all it's worth too.
<v Speaker 1>I mean he is, he's been around a very long time,
<v Speaker 1>and like a lot of the American audience knows him too,
<v Speaker 1>So I can understand the idea they're going for here
<v Speaker 1>where Blue Damon beats them. You know, people understand like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>so we can explain to the audience who this guy is.
<v Speaker 1>He can beat a guy that they know a lot about,
<v Speaker 1>and it's a match we can post about and people
<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, okay, I chop I know Chava right right,
<v Speaker 1>But damn would have been coolest shit too if you
<v Speaker 1>just started this show off with like just an absurd
<v Speaker 1>Luca's showcase or something.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like oh this is like you know, you know
<v Speaker 2>the history of Luca. There's one hundred years of history.
<v Speaker 2>Well this is what Luca is now. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean it was probably a decision. It was
<v Speaker 1>probably a game day decision on how they wanted to
<v Speaker 1>kick this fucking open it match off. But yeah, just
<v Speaker 1>a standard match here between Demon and Chava.
<v Speaker 2>I mean Chava probably walked up and said I.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably so. Chava Guerrera Junior makes his entrance between
<v Speaker 1>the bleachers, while Blue Damont comes through the top down
<v Speaker 1>the staircase. I liked that they came from different locations.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that was always like a face
<v Speaker 2>heel thing, but I think it was kind of maybe
<v Speaker 2>implied at times here.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the face comes through the crowd because he yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you know, the people that the guy that people would
<v Speaker 1>want to see, and the heel comes through this area
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of separated from the crowd. I can understand that.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's always the case, but I think
<v Speaker 2>that's like a often that way.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just a year prior, Chava won that fucking
<v Speaker 1>fired briefcase at TIA, and like I know we've talked
<v Speaker 1>about on this show for people who don't know, Chava
<v Speaker 1>won the fired briefcase and the feasts are fired Matt TNA,
<v Speaker 1>which is a match that TNA would do with a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of briefcases, and they'd all have title matches in
<v Speaker 1>the briefcases, and whatever briefcase you got, you would find
<v Speaker 1>out what title you get to fight for. Uh, and
<v Speaker 1>then one of them had a fired.
<v Speaker 2>Again Nick Nay were all good except.
<v Speaker 1>One except for one, and you would get released from TNA.
<v Speaker 1>It's a gimmick, except for this time where Chava Grera
<v Speaker 1>won the fired briefcase and then TNA tried to use
<v Speaker 1>that as a reason to actually release them from his
<v Speaker 1>contract let.
<v Speaker 2>Him go because.
<v Speaker 1>Like Chava, like Chava, Legit had to get his lawyer involved,
<v Speaker 1>like because they were Legit trying to do that, and
<v Speaker 1>then he ended up leaving.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, like, hey, we wrote you off like you.
<v Speaker 1>You don't got no more dates for you?
<v Speaker 2>Dude, What do you want us to do? You just
<v Speaker 2>got fired on this show? The fuck?
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to come back his creyman too.
<v Speaker 2>He's super Eric or we'll fill that role too if
<v Speaker 2>you want, We will recast you. Let us know if
<v Speaker 2>you would.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So Rick Knox is the referee for this match.
<v Speaker 1>Longtime PWG ref Rick Knox has an arm cast on.
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember why?
<v Speaker 1>Because at Bola with Rod Yeah at Bola, Yeah, which
<v Speaker 1>was you mentioned it in the observers. It was just
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks.
<v Speaker 2>Back, yeah, if not a week. Yeah, Roderick fucks him
<v Speaker 2>up and he breaks his like arm or his collar
<v Speaker 2>like and I think he fucks his collarbone up too.
<v Speaker 1>Pretty nuts. They still they plan on a.
<v Speaker 2>Commentary like, Hey, why do we have a referee that's
<v Speaker 2>fucking got a broke arm or anything. He's just on
<v Speaker 2>the show, just has the cast on. Yeah, yeah, which
<v Speaker 2>is awesome. I'll take you. Yeah, knocks is sweet.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna give a gimmick to
<v Speaker 1>the refee, had the Bob Wharton gimmick. He just always
<v Speaker 1>wears this cast.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he does, sadly, I think he does eventually.
<v Speaker 2>That'd be all the hard knocks. Oh wow, that would
<v Speaker 2>be pretty interesting.
<v Speaker 1>Actually he uses it eventually.
<v Speaker 2>They they're using all the local so Cala refs here too,
<v Speaker 2>which are pretty much you know, Peter BG uses some already,
<v Speaker 2>Elias Rick Knox or the refs.
<v Speaker 1>Here, which is cool. I mean, in the grand scheme
<v Speaker 1>of wrestling, like the West Coast gets the short end
<v Speaker 1>of the stick a lot because it's just so isolated
<v Speaker 1>from everything. And uh yeah, I mean, so it was
<v Speaker 1>very cool to be able to like see like just
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys from the West Coast get used
<v Speaker 1>in this product.
<v Speaker 2>Kicked ass Yeah Lujah.
<v Speaker 1>Underground also has guys standing on the boxes filming above
<v Speaker 1>the ropes, which gave it a different look.
<v Speaker 2>I wrote that there's their double box here. Usually, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm used to WW one. They got the two boxes,
<v Speaker 2>I like it.
<v Speaker 1>On each side. Yeah, and they didn't mind being in
<v Speaker 1>the shot.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I was surprised by that.
<v Speaker 2>No, dude, there's the okay, So that was it tilted
<v Speaker 2>me for a second, just because, like I'm just so
<v Speaker 2>used to it. Like there was fucking roamors on hardcam side.
<v Speaker 1>I said, right, I mean they had roamers on the floor,
<v Speaker 1>they had roamers on the boxes. I mean, there's a
<v Speaker 1>lot of cameras.
<v Speaker 2>They had overhead shots shots.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude, the overhead shot was cool led to some
<v Speaker 1>like pretty creative shots during this match.
<v Speaker 2>There's one in the main that's fucking pretty awesome during
<v Speaker 2>like a falsey of the overhead shot. Yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 2>they're they're trying a lot of shit here, dude, Like
<v Speaker 2>that's why that's what especially, you know, like I said,
<v Speaker 2>I I would just hooked just because it was something new.
<v Speaker 2>But you know, they were trying to do a lot
<v Speaker 2>of shit that you weren't seeing on other shows WWE
<v Speaker 2>or DNA or r o H.
<v Speaker 1>They cut the camera a ton in this show.
<v Speaker 2>Also, there is a lot of editing on.
<v Speaker 1>I mean even when it's not being edited, like even
<v Speaker 1>when they're not putting the match shorter or whatever the
<v Speaker 1>case they were trying to do, there's just cutting to anything,
<v Speaker 1>oh everything.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're just.
<v Speaker 1>We're just shifting angles for no reason. Most of the time.
<v Speaker 2>It felt it definitely was on purpose, because that that
<v Speaker 2>doesn't go away.
<v Speaker 1>It was just how wrestling was at the time. WB
<v Speaker 1>was the same way, like TNA was the same way.
<v Speaker 1>Like they were just cutting angles a ton, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and it was just you know, one or two eighty
<v Speaker 1>ninety times man, Like, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I think they thought it made it feel faster.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can I can see that. I can see
<v Speaker 1>the thought process behind that.
<v Speaker 2>Right, it's right.
<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah, I mean ten years later, chilli out. Sure, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you know, with hindsight, chill out.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>So we start off here with Chavo and Blue Damon. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>we kind of just have a fifty to fifty match here.
<v Speaker 1>No one really gets the upper hand on each other
<v Speaker 1>throughout this one. It's a very evenly, evenly fought match
<v Speaker 1>till we get to the finish here. Vampiro says that
<v Speaker 1>Chavo is like the redheaded step child. What does that mean.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand this at first. There says he's like
<v Speaker 2>the redheaded stepchild when he walks into a locker room
<v Speaker 2>with that name. He's got heat, and you know, people
<v Speaker 2>really only liked Eddie. Wait, I wasn't.
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure if Chava was supposed to be a
<v Speaker 1>heel until Vampiro just started shipping on him on commentary.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, dude, people do not funk with
<v Speaker 2>the Guerreros. Oh ship's nott for Eddie.
<v Speaker 1>Awesome and everyone liked him.
<v Speaker 2>Dude, there's another fucking funny commentary thing. Matt Striker keeps
<v Speaker 2>calling him, uh, Damon, which you know, is how it said,
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's it sounded like he was trying to
<v Speaker 2>say it like to Vampiro to like be like, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>hey look this is like how we say it, right,
<v Speaker 2>And he says Damon, and Vampiro says, yeah, man, demon
<v Speaker 2>is pretty kick ass.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's Demon.
<v Speaker 2>You might know miss Demon.
<v Speaker 1>So Travo hits a house show here. Uh Chavo then
<v Speaker 1>gets crotched by Damon. Matt Striker, Yeah, this is funny
<v Speaker 1>as ship. So Chavo gets crotched and then Matt Striker
<v Speaker 1>randomly just says, there's Rick Knox looking like Mills Lane.
<v Speaker 2>Chavo like his ass over tea kettle, almost falling on
<v Speaker 2>the top of his head and talking about sure you're
<v Speaker 2>talking about him being bald.
<v Speaker 1>There's Rick Knox looking like Mill's Lane. Oh there wasn't
<v Speaker 1>like a follow up, all right.
<v Speaker 2>Nor you know he have a little levity here underground.
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to mention the cast. We're just gonna
<v Speaker 1>say it looks like Mills Lane, right, just.
<v Speaker 2>A bald white guy. I'll come on down.
<v Speaker 1>So Damon misses a as demon in me. He misses
<v Speaker 1>a flipping sent on and Chavo gets it too, and brother, dude, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>Damon does the flip off the top of this ship.
<v Speaker 1>Was funny as ship. He misses the flipping sent on,
<v Speaker 1>Chavo gets the two Chavo uh like, he gets up
<v Speaker 1>off of him and mats Shriker on commentary says, is
<v Speaker 1>Travo gonna be one hundred thousand dollars? Richard, No, I
<v Speaker 1>thought this was about having a good match and being impressive.
<v Speaker 1>I is it about being impressive or is it about?
<v Speaker 1>At no point is Chava gonna be winning that one?
<v Speaker 1>Hundred thousand dollars recrdialists whatever whatever, whatever, like, the deal
<v Speaker 1>is here. Chava is not winning that money. So no
<v Speaker 1>he's not because after this match, later on in the evening,
<v Speaker 1>Daria washt off till him and says, we'll get there,
<v Speaker 1>We'll get there, We get there.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Uh. Chavo goes for frankenstein Er all the top rope here,
<v Speaker 1>but Damon holds on and then power bombs them off
<v Speaker 1>the second for it too.
<v Speaker 2>That was sick.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was cool. Daimon then puts on the scorpion
<v Speaker 1>deathlock and Chavo taps out.
<v Speaker 2>They said that was his dad's move. I didn't know
<v Speaker 2>he was a son of.
<v Speaker 1>That's cool.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fucking kick ass the Blue Demons. Fucking dad is
<v Speaker 2>a stinger.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, loves fucking Jim Carrey and shit, that's cool me too, man.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Travo taps out, and uh, that's that's the history books.
<v Speaker 2>The first match in Lucia Underground History, uh televised at least,
<v Speaker 2>was Blue Damon beating Chavo Guerrero so vampire.
<v Speaker 1>At the end of this match, also, it sounded like
<v Speaker 1>you know when you lose in a video game and
<v Speaker 1>you get the game over screen and it fades, and
<v Speaker 1>then the screen pops up with rematch or exit match
<v Speaker 1>and the game drops like a one liner right there.
<v Speaker 1>I swear to god, that's what this felt like. Chavo out.
<v Speaker 1>There's like super canned audio vampire that comes over and says,
<v Speaker 1>damn Chato tupped out. We're family. Ain't gonna be feeling
<v Speaker 1>that at.
<v Speaker 2>All, dude. Oh my god, it's such like a death jam.
<v Speaker 2>Fucking dude.
<v Speaker 1>I was waiting for like the rematch or exit match
<v Speaker 1>or back the menu button to pop up or something
<v Speaker 1>like it was.
<v Speaker 2>Game over, you lost. That happens this whole fucking show, dude.
<v Speaker 1>So we get a pre tape after the opening match
<v Speaker 1>here Dario is here with Conan.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah Dario, uh, says Conan. So glad you're here. They're
<v Speaker 2>going to talk about us than the Observer now, huh
<v Speaker 2>Hey Conan.
<v Speaker 1>First things first, No, I haven't listened to pod yet,
<v Speaker 1>but I am happy that you're here working for me.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like anything that bad happens back here. I
<v Speaker 2>mean you can report whatever you want, buddy, Like that's
<v Speaker 2>totally cool to me.
<v Speaker 1>Everything here's will work, dude, Yeah, do whatever you want.
<v Speaker 2>Get Wizard's bizarre. So yeah, Conan says, listen, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know about working for you, but I'm interested in that
<v Speaker 2>money you're throwing around. But saying about me, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you're looking for one of the best fighters in the world.
<v Speaker 2>Look out that window. At first, I thought he was
<v Speaker 2>being literal, like I thought he was saying, there's dudes
<v Speaker 2>on the street that are better than the guys. Just dude,
<v Speaker 2>you can pick from Ricky Reis is out there, a
<v Speaker 2>little chol other tod You better pick these dud dudes.
<v Speaker 1>They're coming here anyways.
<v Speaker 2>But he meant from like look outside like because the
<v Speaker 2>guy who's talking about is from this area. He says,
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's one of the best fighters in the world,
<v Speaker 2>is right from here. And Dario says, listen, there's Luca
<v Speaker 2>Doors that might feel differently. In fact, I just signed
<v Speaker 2>a deal with the biggest former free agent in the business.
<v Speaker 2>He's a man that goes by many names, but here
<v Speaker 2>he will be known as Johnny Moondo mucha Luca fucking guys.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I love the name Johnny Moondo.
<v Speaker 2>I do too.
<v Speaker 1>I actually, I actually like I'm not a big John
<v Speaker 1>Morrison guy had never really been a big John Morrison guy.
<v Speaker 1>But I was interested to see what he's going to
<v Speaker 1>do here because I know he is a big deal here.
<v Speaker 1>And Johnny Mundo is I love that name. I just
<v Speaker 1>can't get enough. Dude, that's Johnny Mundo right there.
<v Speaker 2>Not only is the name great, dude, his run here
<v Speaker 2>is actually awesome, especially when they turn him. He was
<v Speaker 2>fucking They got him in Taya and Justin Gabriel and
<v Speaker 2>Jack Evans and they're all just fucking assholes.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm interested to see, Like, I think a lot
<v Speaker 1>of his a lot of his like buzz and a
<v Speaker 1>lot of his good will came from this running lucha underground,
<v Speaker 1>So I haven't seen it. I'm interested to see, like
<v Speaker 1>my thoughts on it once we get further into this show.
<v Speaker 2>So Dario says I signed him only to make an
<v Speaker 2>example out of him, which I was like, Oh, that's fuck.
<v Speaker 2>It pretty cool because you know Moonda's it's gonna be
<v Speaker 2>a top baby. He says he doesn't respect my temple
<v Speaker 2>and he's here for the money and the fame. And
<v Speaker 2>if your man is as good as he says he is,
<v Speaker 2>have him make an example of Johnny Hey, and if
<v Speaker 2>he does, perhaps one hundred thousand dollars will go to
<v Speaker 2>him and you. And Conan likes that because he likes
<v Speaker 2>himself some money. So we got our main event, Johnny
<v Speaker 2>Mundo and uh, soon to be named the other guy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>could be anybody Cody brings in stone Cold.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got a guy. So we go into a
<v Speaker 1>pre tape here we see a Lucha door wrestling in
<v Speaker 1>a ring as Cony and coaches him from ringside.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>And we learn a little bit more here about one
<v Speaker 1>of the faces of this show, Prince Puma, and.
<v Speaker 2>He's I mean, this is the guy, right, This is
<v Speaker 2>like their money right here is Prince Puma. They put
<v Speaker 2>a lot into him, and I mean, fucking not a
<v Speaker 2>bad guy to go with, I gotta say, because goddamn
<v Speaker 2>he like encompasses, you know, other than fucking probably Penta
<v Speaker 2>in Phoenix, Like, Prince Puma is like the face of
<v Speaker 2>this place.
<v Speaker 1>Twenty fourteen. Ricochet is awesome too.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Yes, dude, he's yeah, like on all cylinders.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean he was unbelievable in PWG. He
<v Speaker 1>got in great shape, by the way, Yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 1>he's unbelievably ripped. Yeah, he looks great.
<v Speaker 2>Conan says, the true legend of Luca doesn't run through
<v Speaker 2>his veins, it runs in him, and it shows Prince Uma,
<v Speaker 2>and he says he heard his family talking about seven
<v Speaker 2>Astac tribes and how they all had their own champion
<v Speaker 2>and the original luchadors. When a luchador loses in battle,
<v Speaker 2>more than his honor was taken way before Game of Thrones,
<v Speaker 2>he says, Astag luchadors would claim the head of their opponent,
<v Speaker 2>which is why the mask has become a symbol of
<v Speaker 2>life in our sport. The luchador loses his mask, he
<v Speaker 2>loses everything. I mean, they could have went real crazy
<v Speaker 2>with this, Like they could have been cutting dude's heads
<v Speaker 2>off all the time if they wanted to.
<v Speaker 1>Well, they shoot Daria Equado in the head.
<v Speaker 2>I guess they did kill Lucasaurusts. They legit cut his
<v Speaker 2>head off, so I guess that's fucking fair. I do.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I love that they brought that up
<v Speaker 1>because I think to a lot of the American audience too.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even when were watching WCW. You remember when
<v Speaker 1>we watched Nitro, I think it was and Larry's Ubisco
<v Speaker 1>was like trying to have a hard time trying to
<v Speaker 1>yang to American fans.
<v Speaker 2>The mask is so.
<v Speaker 1>Revered import Lujah Libre. I love that they like gave
<v Speaker 1>it a pretty simple like explanation that ties into the
<v Speaker 1>show here, so like automatically, it gives so much meaning
<v Speaker 1>to the audience watching.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I understand like the importance of the mask
<v Speaker 2>thing too, right, like even how long I've been watching wrestling.
<v Speaker 2>But the explanation of like this is like getting your
<v Speaker 2>fucking head cut off, is like, oh, I immediately understand
<v Speaker 2>that this is like the most important thing in the world.
<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, it ties into the show's like deal very
<v Speaker 1>very quickly. It was a good idea to do that.
<v Speaker 2>They're showing shots here Prince Puma doing some shit. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>he kicks this dude so hard in the fucking head
<v Speaker 2>for the slow mo shot. I hope that does paid
<v Speaker 2>decently for that.
<v Speaker 1>So we come out of the pre tape here we
<v Speaker 1>have Son of Havoc and he is taking on Sexy Star.
<v Speaker 1>That caught me off guard. So Son of Havoc is here.
<v Speaker 1>That's m Dog twenty. They got him under a deal here,
<v Speaker 1>which is all awesome that he got a spot on
<v Speaker 1>this show. I thought that was very cool.
<v Speaker 2>He becomes a mainstay as well, like he's especially in
<v Speaker 2>the Trio's division. Here he becomes a figure wet dog. Yeah, dude,
<v Speaker 2>we fucking m Dog. One of the first DPW world
<v Speaker 2>title matches was pretty cool bo Jack versus m Dog
<v Speaker 2>twenty and he was cool ship but that was.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, he was awesome. Yeah, what a what a good dude.
<v Speaker 1>Sexy Star makes her entrance. She comes through the crowd
<v Speaker 1>and she's got the DPW Women's World Champion maught what
<v Speaker 1>the fuck?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah thinking of me? And they do a whole Sexy
<v Speaker 2>Star high video here. I mean, they are getting her
<v Speaker 2>over huge here and they push her to the moon.
<v Speaker 2>Vampire says, she's like a rock star in Mexico. She's
<v Speaker 2>won world titles wrestling in Japan. I guess on Havoc's
<v Speaker 2>a piece of fucking shit. We don't get to find
<v Speaker 2>out anything about him. He's which could be anybody, Dandy Havoc.
<v Speaker 1>Rock right, We're really listening for that guy to come in.
<v Speaker 2>So they show a Sexy Star video where she says
<v Speaker 2>when she looked in the mirror, she saw a woman
<v Speaker 2>that was afraid, but her mask saved her life. And
<v Speaker 2>Luca Libray called to her, and it showed her that
<v Speaker 2>women are as strong as men and tough as men,
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes can kick ass better than men. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a fucking inspirational story something everybody can
<v Speaker 2>get behind. I get that here, and uh, we come back,
<v Speaker 2>and some Havocs immediately taken the mic.
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck, dude, he left raider voice on.
<v Speaker 2>That's fucking the best way to describe it, raider voice.
<v Speaker 2>So son Havoc has the mic and he says, before
<v Speaker 2>you get all sorry, I'm not wrestling a warburn. Vampiro
<v Speaker 2>says that arrogant bastard, Havac says, want you to do
<v Speaker 2>yourself favor, get yourself counted out and live to fight
<v Speaker 2>another day. Imagine if that's legit what they did. But
<v Speaker 2>she just said a fuck.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the son of Abba.
<v Speaker 2>That you got anything to show for his backstory because
<v Speaker 2>he was killing.
<v Speaker 1>Du Yeah right, I mean his dad's Havoc is a.
<v Speaker 2>Legend motorcycles rights. Right.
<v Speaker 1>He was known as Harley Davidson.
<v Speaker 2>In the which we found out was a real guy.
<v Speaker 1>Son of Harley david Son. Didn't work.
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was you know, like Luke Chop Rising was
<v Speaker 2>the first name son of Harley David Soon was like
<v Speaker 2>pitched it kind of a lot hard to chant.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Sexy Star looks at him like are you serious?
<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, I'm not going to exit the
<v Speaker 1>ring and do this, But then she does. She steps
<v Speaker 1>out of the ring and Havoc looks back at her
<v Speaker 1>and says, I'm not gonna sit back.
<v Speaker 2>That's serious. Wow, that is the fun? Was that? Why
<v Speaker 2>did that? It went on for so long?
<v Speaker 1>But Sexy Star then runs back in and tries to
<v Speaker 1>jump Havoc, but it backfires. Havoc kind of beats her ass.
<v Speaker 2>She tries to get the one up on him and
<v Speaker 2>she's but she's resilient. He keeps shoving her off, but
<v Speaker 2>she is resilient.
<v Speaker 1>Sexy Star slabs Havoc, and this is where I'm realizing
<v Speaker 1>now that every slap sounds like a gunshot in this place.
<v Speaker 2>Like that is forever, by the way, every superkick, every anything,
<v Speaker 2>you're getting a slap on, You're getting the the fu
<v Speaker 2>weed whacker, the kendowstick sound.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude, it's super loud. Yeah, Sexy Star is stringing
<v Speaker 1>some shit together here, but Havoc just hits a back
<v Speaker 1>breaker and it's kind of like Nightfall in a way
<v Speaker 1>main style backbreaker here and picks up the wind.
<v Speaker 2>I uh, okay, I was confused. They like her losing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not confused about Like I get it, like that's
<v Speaker 2>gonna get fucking paid off obviously, right, but like how
<v Speaker 2>short this was and he gets a normal pinfall on her,
<v Speaker 2>and Matt Shreker says, Havo wins by pulling the tights.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, I mean he tried.
<v Speaker 1>He tried to pull the tights. I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>you noticed, but he picked her leg up and tried
<v Speaker 1>to grab her gear.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but it definitely does not it just like a
<v Speaker 2>deep regular pin.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, dude, short fucking match. Didn't like that either,
<v Speaker 2>didn't really Again, I get where it goes, right, it's
<v Speaker 2>it'll pay off and it'll be fucking j went brother
<v Speaker 2>some fucking app because I did read. Meltzer originally said
<v Speaker 2>that this was like a he got a report that
<v Speaker 2>it was a two out of three, or they just
<v Speaker 2>were like filmed multiple matches. So either this was supposed
<v Speaker 2>to be longer and it got cut crazy or it
<v Speaker 2>kept going poorly.
<v Speaker 1>It'd be funny as shit if like sexy stars, like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lose tonight. So they're like, okay, it's
<v Speaker 1>two out of three falls and then the one fall
<v Speaker 1>where he beat her they just used that. Yeah, Wow,
<v Speaker 1>that'd be nuts.
<v Speaker 2>That would be fucking awesome. What a great idea.
<v Speaker 1>Well, it shows a graphic of Johnny Mundo and Prince
<v Speaker 1>Puma's main event later on this evening.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Johnnymundo returns of the ring after three years. Why lie,
<v Speaker 2>why why? Like this show's definitely for smart fans, Like,
<v Speaker 2>why would you just fucking pretend I don't get it? Well,
<v Speaker 2>that's Johnny Mundo, you know, who wrestled three years ago.
<v Speaker 2>Of course.
<v Speaker 1>As the Flea. So we go to a pre tape
<v Speaker 1>here Chavo is sweaty and uh the screen, a silver
<v Speaker 1>briefcase slides across the room and Chavo looks down and
<v Speaker 1>he says, please.
<v Speaker 2>No, would you like to see my briefcase? Java?
<v Speaker 1>No, that didn't have it. It should have happened. That
<v Speaker 1>would have been very fun. Dario comes in and he says, uh,
<v Speaker 1>you tapped out.
<v Speaker 2>Huh dude. He says, the Great Java Guerrera from the
<v Speaker 2>Great gro Familia. What happened? My friend. I thought you'd
<v Speaker 2>be the first victor of my temple and prove the
<v Speaker 2>world that the Grow family is the greatest luchador family
<v Speaker 2>in history. And what do you do? You tapped out?
<v Speaker 2>What would your grandfather think? What would your uncle think? Well,
<v Speaker 2>he says, one thing's for sure. The one hundred thousand
<v Speaker 2>dollars will not begun to you city.
<v Speaker 1>I mean only fuck you are not getting that money.
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that much.
<v Speaker 2>And since you didn't finish the job tonight, I will
<v Speaker 2>have to bring in an opponent who will. And once
<v Speaker 2>he is here, there is nothing I can do to
<v Speaker 2>stop him. And he wipes his nose. I believe this
<v Speaker 2>was cocaine implications. And he says a thousand deaths might
<v Speaker 2>be coming for us, all which I don't know. I'm assuming.
<v Speaker 2>Do you know who this is talking about? Here? The rock?
<v Speaker 2>Well that was the first one. You're still on, like
<v Speaker 2>the the like for Lucha Uprising script here? Right? Okay,
<v Speaker 2>my bad, miss the it's uh it is uh mill
<v Speaker 2>More tents mill More tests who you know as Judas Messius.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Abyss is half brother.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, he's with Maxine. I forget where her name
<v Speaker 2>was here Maxine from w Yes, yes was her name?
<v Speaker 1>Oh The Kiss of Death?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, Katrina Katrina was her name? Katrina? Right, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>what she's fucking awesome on this show too. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I've seen a lot of the Wertz stuff,
<v Speaker 1>Like he's massive, he looks you, the mask is super
<v Speaker 1>fucking dope, dude.
<v Speaker 2>Him and Phoenix have like my favorite casket match ever.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I mean I'm definitely excited to see more
<v Speaker 1>from him, for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So we have the main event of the evening, Johnny
<v Speaker 1>Mundo versus Prince Puma with Conan.
<v Speaker 2>So Conan is here for the entrance and that's it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's That's that's all I got.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if like they filmed that and then
<v Speaker 2>or what happened here, because like or he might have
<v Speaker 2>been going you know what, I actually may have read
<v Speaker 2>that he like had surgery, like makes sense at the time,
<v Speaker 2>So maybe he.
<v Speaker 1>Was going through a lot of shit at this time.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sure, I feel like every other fucking month there
<v Speaker 2>was stuff about Conan's like hip surgery or this or that.
<v Speaker 1>You know, Well, Johnny Munda comes out, he does his
<v Speaker 1>WWE entrance here, like with.
<v Speaker 2>The uh slow Moe thing and yeah, kicked on the
<v Speaker 2>apron and stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he's still locked and still got the jacket
<v Speaker 1>and everything. The only thing separating him from WWE is
<v Speaker 1>Joey Mercury's now.
<v Speaker 2>Here the ring. Yeah, pretty much.
<v Speaker 1>Prince Puma comes out here and Vampiro immediately says, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Conya is like a cancer.
<v Speaker 2>Man.
<v Speaker 1>I hate that guy.
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you, dude, that is such like a
<v Speaker 2>fucking this never ends. By the way. He hates Conan
<v Speaker 2>and like always hates Conan and he calls him a
<v Speaker 2>snake and this, that and the other. I mean, it's
<v Speaker 2>it's great.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this is like prime era Ricochet by the way.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, not to catch up with the
<v Speaker 1>stuff he's doing now, because the stuff he's doing now
<v Speaker 1>is really good too. But I just remember at the
<v Speaker 1>time watching Ricochet and being like, holy fuck, like I know,
<v Speaker 1>he's got it all. I was like, Wow, this guy
<v Speaker 1>can do everything, And I guess that's really kind of
<v Speaker 1>still the still the case now.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like still can do it super still, he
<v Speaker 2>can keep up with fucking everybody, man.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess it was easy to like when he
<v Speaker 1>went to WWE, it was easy to forget, like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>because so much time passed, like just how good this
<v Speaker 1>guy is, I know, and like it's it's really cool
<v Speaker 1>to see him doing his thing nowadays.
<v Speaker 2>In aw no, dude, like I said, when he came
<v Speaker 2>back from fucking that dragon Gate tour, I mean it
<v Speaker 2>was this is like the best high flyer in the
<v Speaker 2>fucking world. It was on yeah right, yeah, he had
<v Speaker 2>a little you remember the mohawk of course, dude, that
<v Speaker 2>great when he tapped in, yes, jacked and he had
<v Speaker 2>that fucking colored mohawks. Sh it was awesome. Man.
<v Speaker 1>He look yeah like that look.
<v Speaker 2>And but I will say, Prince Uma, by the way,
<v Speaker 2>this is a super marketable look here.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's got a story like I mean, yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>mean this is awesome. I mean this is I mean
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people still reference this. I mean this
<v Speaker 1>is a very cho very people remember this very much,
<v Speaker 1>which is cool. Vampiro all right, so they start the
<v Speaker 1>match off here Mundo and Puma do and they do
<v Speaker 1>like a wristlock exchange, and Vampura says, you know, that
<v Speaker 1>reminds me of the Dynamite Kid. And I was like,
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, I mean that was loaded.
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.
<v Speaker 1>They're doing like wristlock exchanges and ship and strikers like
<v Speaker 1>this is inspired by World of Sport. You know, you
<v Speaker 1>can talk about that here. Use the internet.
<v Speaker 2>Learn, do not look at where Johnny Mundes working.
<v Speaker 1>Lately, Johnny Munda's cage match for the past three years.
<v Speaker 2>Do not keep up with Johnny Mundo, but you should
<v Speaker 2>keep up with the World of sport. Also, by the way,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you noticed, it's very very faint.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they kept it in just because
<v Speaker 2>they had to or what. But when the shot comes
<v Speaker 2>in and the bell rings, the last bit of the
<v Speaker 2>crowd channing all night long can be heard, which was
<v Speaker 2>fucking Obviously the PBG fans there that knew was Rikoshet
<v Speaker 2>and he was doing shit with Swan.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I was gonna bring it up because Striker says
<v Speaker 1>it on commentary. Striker mentions that Ricochet can go all
<v Speaker 1>night long, and I was like, oh man, it's the
<v Speaker 1>fucking Ricochet rich One Inner City machine Guns from PWG
<v Speaker 1>and they were doing I mean, they were doing that
<v Speaker 1>fucking deal on every indie show they were on. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>rich One still does it to this day. Rich One
<v Speaker 1>is still doing Yeah, that's nuts. Matt Striker says that
<v Speaker 1>he asked Vampiro. He says, what do you think Puma
<v Speaker 1>has like picked up from Conan? And Vampiro says, sadly,
<v Speaker 1>this kid's about to be corrupted. I gotta tell you
<v Speaker 1>Conan is evil.
<v Speaker 2>He legit says. If there's anyone that's evil, it's Conan's ship. Dude.
<v Speaker 1>I love how thick Vampiro lays it on for the
<v Speaker 1>heels on this show, Like, yeah, no one likes the
<v Speaker 1>Guerrero family. It's sept for Eddie is nuts. You know,
<v Speaker 1>Conan is evil and he's going to corrupt this kid immediately.
<v Speaker 1>He's a cancer. Yeah. I like how ernest he is,
<v Speaker 1>and like the way he comes off on the heels
<v Speaker 1>that only grows too.
<v Speaker 2>By the way.
<v Speaker 1>I love this So Ricochet does, I mean, like if
<v Speaker 1>Ricochet's like kind of just doing going through the motions
<v Speaker 1>of his ship that he would do like pretty much
<v Speaker 1>every show, Like double fucking Head saysers drop kick, go
<v Speaker 1>for the dive, backflip into superhero pos Like Vampiro, I'm
<v Speaker 1>guessing he hasn't seen much Ricochet, you know, up to
<v Speaker 1>this point, so like this is the first time you
<v Speaker 1>see all his ship, which is like, I mean, when
<v Speaker 1>you see it for the first time, especially in twenty fourteen,
<v Speaker 1>you're like, wow, this is like this is it? Like
<v Speaker 1>this guy is right. So Vampiro sees that and like
<v Speaker 1>he stands up. I mean he legitimately goes, man, I'm
<v Speaker 1>standing up.
<v Speaker 2>Come on, come on. I was like, dude, Wow, I.
<v Speaker 1>Haven't seen I've never seen someone's first reaction to seeing
<v Speaker 1>like this feels like a time capsule, like seeing twenty
<v Speaker 1>fourteen Ricochet for the first time and being able to
<v Speaker 1>experience like his shine and all this shit he does
<v Speaker 1>like it's super locked in and yeah. Seeing Vampiro stand
<v Speaker 1>up and he was like, let's fucking god.
<v Speaker 2>The little camera that's blown out. Yeah on his mic
<v Speaker 2>that's blown out. I'm standing on that, dude. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Richet Ricochet goes to dive. He does the backflip into
<v Speaker 1>the superhero post thing. If this was PWG. Mundo would
<v Speaker 1>have came in. He would have done the Superhero post spot.
<v Speaker 1>Then the ref would have done the Superhero post spot.
<v Speaker 2>And stick their thumbs up.
<v Speaker 1>Then whoever's doing control of this match, he would smack
<v Speaker 1>the other guy. The guy would powder. He would give
<v Speaker 1>the middle finger to the crowd. He'd hit a big
<v Speaker 1>dive over the robes we get into the match.
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much exactly how this would go.
<v Speaker 1>Ricochet would do.
<v Speaker 2>The dance right the people's elbow, Yeah, yeah, with the
<v Speaker 2>moon saw.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the People's moon saw.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all stuff I wanted to see in twenty fourteen.
<v Speaker 1>Twenty fourteen on beg, I am begging for the ref
<v Speaker 1>to do the superhero posing fuck up, Like I am
<v Speaker 1>begging for it. Dude, push the ladder and do the
<v Speaker 1>toe fa on you and beg you to it. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>like seeing this brought back so many memories for me.
<v Speaker 2>It felt good.
<v Speaker 1>This was a very important part of my fandom as
<v Speaker 1>a wrestling fan. Like I like, I'm not the style
<v Speaker 1>that PWG was at the time, Like I I like
<v Speaker 1>different types of wrestling today is the best to put it.
<v Speaker 1>But that era was so important for me as like
<v Speaker 1>just a fan of wrestling to go through, you know, man,
<v Speaker 1>Like that shit brought back a lot of memories.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know we've talked about it right, where
<v Speaker 2>Like I was definitely in a part where like I
<v Speaker 2>didn't really want to watch anything old, but I also
<v Speaker 2>like didn't want to watch much that was going on TV.
<v Speaker 2>So like, if that shit didn't exist, I'm probably like
<v Speaker 2>if I didn't, if I don't find the indies, I'm out. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I was so ready for like that generation of guys
<v Speaker 1>to like be the people that everyone was talking about.
<v Speaker 1>Matt Striker calls the fans here the Lucca Mania acts.
<v Speaker 1>He says, it doesn't last. Check out the Luca MANI acts.
<v Speaker 1>In this dirty, dirty, shitty, fucking shitty, shitty, fucking horrible
<v Speaker 1>building we're in.
<v Speaker 2>They must they must believe in this. Oh right, believers.
<v Speaker 2>That's probably a better one. Huh.
<v Speaker 1>Bapira says, Yeah, we're like in a Freddy Krueger movie,
<v Speaker 1>like we're here in the boiler room or something.
<v Speaker 2>That would have been fucking sick. What the hell?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I like, you know, what can I say? I'm
<v Speaker 1>a fan of Wes Cravens at everyone Elm Street So Vampiro,
<v Speaker 1>I like that shout out, thank you so much. I
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. They fight over to the announced table. Here
<v Speaker 1>Mundo flips off the table and Vampiro literally peaks his
<v Speaker 1>mic by how excited he is. He says, this is
<v Speaker 1>like the coolest shit he's ever seen.
<v Speaker 2>Dude, if he could curse, he would be fucking going
<v Speaker 2>nuts right now, Like this is the craziest fucking the
<v Speaker 2>governments and have you you see this shit.
<v Speaker 1>They had to keep Vampiro away from PWG by all
<v Speaker 1>costs because he.
<v Speaker 2>Would like it would change his life. God, oh my god.
<v Speaker 1>Mundo's now in control of the match. Here, He's taken
<v Speaker 1>four arm shots to prince Puma's back. Puma fires back
<v Speaker 1>with a kick here. He tries to get the crowd
<v Speaker 1>into the match by pounding on the mat. But I mean,
<v Speaker 1>you can see like a lot of the fans already left.
<v Speaker 1>I guess the fucking building was so hot and just
<v Speaker 1>everything by that point.
<v Speaker 2>They thought a peeping for the most part.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they didn't know that he was trying to get
<v Speaker 1>them into it by pounding the bat either, So it
<v Speaker 1>kind of took him a minute to understand what was
<v Speaker 1>going on, but they eventually got it. I'm sure there
<v Speaker 1>was somebody there that was kind of like doing what
<v Speaker 1>so Calval would do. Yeah, yeah, right, Puma has a
<v Speaker 1>standing shooter for a two here. Mundo eventually catches fire
<v Speaker 1>and runs Pum into the buckle and punches him down
<v Speaker 1>them Mundo hits a very odd looking comeback. That's the
<v Speaker 1>only way I could put it here. It was just
<v Speaker 1>very odd. Yeah, double clothes line, it's a normal comeback.
<v Speaker 1>Don't get me wrong. Say you just kind of have
<v Speaker 1>to look at it. It's just very odd looking. It
<v Speaker 1>felt like it didn't feel like he was trying.
<v Speaker 2>To do the moves to him.
<v Speaker 1>It kind of took me out for a second. It
<v Speaker 1>just kind of felt like we were going through the
<v Speaker 1>motions of the comeback. Yeah, it was weird.
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of like a means to an end,
<v Speaker 2>like we just kind of I need to get my
<v Speaker 2>come up back here, and this is what I got.
<v Speaker 2>Like I was just onawn. Sorry, like this guy, I
<v Speaker 2>got double line leg Larry.
<v Speaker 1>But even if you're doing double line lariat, like that's cool.
<v Speaker 1>Like de Malinko would do the leg Larry and I
<v Speaker 1>would come back a lot. But like you catch fire,
<v Speaker 1>you punch him down the buckle, you fucking fire up.
<v Speaker 1>And it was almost like Randy Orton when he throws
<v Speaker 1>the lions for his comeback. Oh, like you know, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's just like now we're just waiting for the power slam,
<v Speaker 1>but he goes in the Yeah. Yeah, it was just odd,
<v Speaker 1>just because, like with the fire that he came up
<v Speaker 1>with out of the corner, it's expected like a more
<v Speaker 1>fiery comeback than that. Sure, I mean it's such a
<v Speaker 1>stupid nitpick here.
<v Speaker 2>No, but I see you're saying. I mean, like you know,
<v Speaker 2>and I will tell you he does, you know, the
<v Speaker 2>the stuff. He becomes more of a looch underground wrestler
<v Speaker 2>than a w B wrestler pretty soon.
<v Speaker 1>That's cool. Mundo hits a running knee strike for two.
<v Speaker 1>He goes for starship pain, but Puma rolls him up
<v Speaker 1>for a two.
<v Speaker 2>That's the end of the World broughta I didn't know
<v Speaker 2>that till the end of the match, dude. I actually,
<v Speaker 2>the end of the World is a fucking awesome name
<v Speaker 2>for a move. Yeah. I do like it too.
<v Speaker 1>Mundo goes for a spinning neck breaker. I'm thinking that's
<v Speaker 1>the Moonlight drive. I think I wrote down.
<v Speaker 2>Moon Light dry there you go. I was waiting, Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I wrote it down somewhere here.
<v Speaker 1>I heard him at commentary say it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Puma stops him from hitting that though, until Mundo hits
<v Speaker 1>a springboard kick for a two. It's basically Puma just
<v Speaker 1>trying to hold on and stop Munda from hitting his
<v Speaker 1>finishing stuff. Here, Mundo flips out of starship pain.
<v Speaker 2>He does.
<v Speaker 1>He has a lot of moves and a lot of
<v Speaker 1>things that could put Puma down here. You know, in
<v Speaker 1>the in the story of of the match, Mundo's kind
<v Speaker 1>of like a vet, you know, he's kind of like
<v Speaker 1>the top guy who comes in and everyone knows, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Puma is like the up and coming guy. Right, So
<v Speaker 1>like Puma is just trying to like escape from the
<v Speaker 1>ship that he knows Mundo's gonna do.
<v Speaker 2>Right, He wouldn't, right, because yeah, exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Puma catches him with the springboard media Oora for a two,
<v Speaker 1>goes for a springboard for fifty but misses. Mundo is
<v Speaker 1>able to hit the Moonlight drive for a two point nine.
<v Speaker 2>That was a good fucking falsey. I actually even bit
<v Speaker 2>on that one because he that yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Mundo hits a standing Spanish fly here called the C four,
<v Speaker 1>A little C four. It's a lot of moves called that.
<v Speaker 2>Fucking there is a lot of moves called that. I'm trying,
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to remember who first called it the four spike, Yes,
<v Speaker 2>C four, so I know it as the as this right,
<v Speaker 2>the Standing Spanish Fly C four is also Sean Spears
<v Speaker 2>value right, Spike. Uh, there's definitely another one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd have to think about it.
<v Speaker 2>Let us know if you unmore, there's gotta be more.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who first called it the C four
<v Speaker 2>for this, because the first time I remember seeing the
<v Speaker 2>flipping Spanish fly was the standing one was fucking Paul
<v Speaker 2>Burns show. Oh wow. Really he'd walked the plank I
<v Speaker 2>think or walking the plank one of those he did
<v Speaker 2>hirate in the game. That's also so he got it
<v Speaker 2>in the game the standing C four.
<v Speaker 1>Which game was he in?
<v Speaker 2>Oh seven? Oh nice? Mm hmmm, good game to be in.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I expected here for the main
<v Speaker 1>but I was. I was impressed with it nonetheless.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, man, I I dug it a lot. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>like you said, I can, I can fucking just glowingly
<v Speaker 2>talk about Ricochet at this time, and you know, Johnny Mundo,
<v Speaker 2>I even I remember at the time, I was like, ah, fuck,
<v Speaker 2>like I wish just didn't have WB guys in it,
<v Speaker 2>but I get it. But he fucking grows on me, man,
<v Speaker 2>Like like you said, like this run does pretty fucking
<v Speaker 2>does wonders for him. He ends up in TNA too,
<v Speaker 2>and what's the title?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Austin Ares walks out after.
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit because he gets into its mud. Fuck that.
<v Speaker 2>Fuck that. So Puma is frustrated after the match. I
<v Speaker 2>like this part too. He fucking Mundo gives them props
<v Speaker 2>and DAPs them up and they hug, and Striker on
<v Speaker 2>commentary says, Ah, he's you know, he's taking care of me.
<v Speaker 2>He's looking he's being a good guy. Here. Do you
<v Speaker 2>think that means if Mundo gets one hundred thousand he'll
<v Speaker 2>share it with Puma? Why the fuck would he do that? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't know. Like, also, it's in cold
<v Speaker 1>hard bills. I mean that's a situation.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and walk out with him briefcase?
<v Speaker 1>Was he just holding money walking out into La in
<v Speaker 1>the street. So Dario comes out, Yeah, and uh Vampiro
<v Speaker 1>right away. I love the way he reacted. Bro, he
<v Speaker 1>looks so pissed right now.
<v Speaker 2>Dude, he is Matt what the hell? What the hell?
<v Speaker 2>He's fucking really bad?
<v Speaker 3>Casual?
<v Speaker 2>That was that was so funny.
<v Speaker 1>And Dario congratulates Mundo and he says he's earned the money.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he shows him the briefcase. By the way, the
<v Speaker 2>money is in it, so they're not like trying to
<v Speaker 2>bake the money or anything. And Mundo goes to grab
<v Speaker 2>the briefcase but Dario closes it, and they're super dubbed
<v Speaker 2>vampiro commentary because he must have been flipping the fuck
<v Speaker 2>out and if I peaked like this ship, so they
<v Speaker 2>had to get this line in. Yeah, this is the
<v Speaker 2>first time I've seen a jar Boni promoter like this
<v Speaker 2>struck to skip out on a paid day.
<v Speaker 1>Well, what a great line. I thought that was funny
<v Speaker 1>as shit. Yeah, it sounded like he was le disgusted.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, he probably popped off for real. Like on
<v Speaker 2>commentary they said, all right, dude, hey, you gotta like
<v Speaker 2>dial it a little. What the fuck? So Mundo tries
<v Speaker 2>to go for the briefcase and they struggle with the
<v Speaker 2>Dario is not giving it to him, and then oh
<v Speaker 2>my god, it's Ricky Reyes the rot Wilders. Are your
<v Speaker 2>babys are here. Holy shit, it's Ricky, and holy shit,
<v Speaker 2>it's a little Cholo. Little Cholo's here and they're jumping
<v Speaker 2>Punda Punda Puma and Mundo and uh, they're kicking their ass.
<v Speaker 2>They're stomping them out until the big Dog is here.
<v Speaker 2>We've talked about him on the show a few times.
<v Speaker 2>We actually never got to talk about him when he
<v Speaker 2>was this.
<v Speaker 1>Big Rick is in the house from that EV two promotion,
<v Speaker 1>the Philly based promotions, Ezekiel Jackson. He was their champion, the.
<v Speaker 2>Last ew champion. Big Rick is so Big Rick grabs
<v Speaker 2>Puma from my apron and he gives him the ten
<v Speaker 2>beatsa where Ravens from. Yeah, dude, and then Ricky Rea
<v Speaker 2>is a little chollo invent the shatter machine.
<v Speaker 1>Dude they do? Wow? That was nuts. They hit it
<v Speaker 1>clean too?
<v Speaker 2>Were they Was this already a move on? Like? Were
<v Speaker 2>they were these guys like a team yet the revival?
<v Speaker 2>Oh I assume so I in my brain that's like.
<v Speaker 1>Later they should have hit him with the cop killer
<v Speaker 1>fucking tiger.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ship, that would have been so fucking awesome. Wow. Yeah, No,
<v Speaker 2>we get shatter machine though, and uh they throw Mundo
<v Speaker 2>into Big Rick, and Big Rick goozles Mundo and he
<v Speaker 2>hits him with a fucking Urinagi. I don't know why
<v Speaker 2>he goozled him though, he wasn't like a jokes. Lady
<v Speaker 2>goes into Uranagi and Vampiro says, damn dog, which is
<v Speaker 2>again just end screen.
<v Speaker 1>Commentary, exit match.
<v Speaker 2>We met damn dog window. He just got hit with
<v Speaker 2>the urinaugy. Uh shit, uh Ricky Rianz. By the way,
<v Speaker 2>here is Cortes Castro and little Cholo is mister Cisco Nice,
<v Speaker 2>which is which is awesome. Yeah, they're uh, they're the
<v Speaker 2>hired guns here for uh, for Dario Quito. And he says,
<v Speaker 2>you think just you know, just Lucca doors compete here.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I told you I've been scouting
<v Speaker 2>the best fighters in the world, and these guys they
<v Speaker 2>work for me. And he gives the one hundred thousand
<v Speaker 2>dollars the Big Rick as the hired gun and here
<v Speaker 2>you go, buddy, dude, that would have been fucking awesome.
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, But he gives one hundred thousand dollars the
<v Speaker 2>Big Rick and the crowd booze, and Dario says, welcome
<v Speaker 2>to Luca Underground. And that's how we go off the
<v Speaker 2>air with the first show here with already set in
<v Speaker 2>the lines of Dario's gotta stable. He's the dickhead, fucking
<v Speaker 2>die in charge. We got the top babies here setting
<v Speaker 2>up a lot here.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they had a vision man, and they
<v Speaker 1>execute it, you know, all the way out through the show.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we have a bunch of angles that have
<v Speaker 1>already sort of spouted up here, like what are we
<v Speaker 1>gonna do with Chavo Guerrero. We got them signed for
<v Speaker 1>six shots. You know, we got Son of Havoc. You
<v Speaker 1>know he's got the voice changer.
<v Speaker 2>Dude, he's looking for some count out victories.
<v Speaker 1>Right Yeah, Blue Day Moon's already like a big baby
<v Speaker 1>face here that the crowds is gonna get behind for sure. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they got the mill Muertes thing coming together. Prince Puma
<v Speaker 1>looked great, Mundo. I'm sure. I'm sure the next episode
<v Speaker 1>is like them teaming together versus Ricky Reyes and little Cholo.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, you might be right. Actually, if not, you
<v Speaker 2>know a few because maybe the first taping they probably
<v Speaker 2>did like two shots of like something totally different for
<v Speaker 2>the live prod or whatever. But oh sure, yeah, I'm
<v Speaker 2>not positive, but I'm sure we'll talk about. I h
<v Speaker 2>it's got my juices.
<v Speaker 1>Talk about does a question for you you've seen sure
<v Speaker 1>season two and three, does does like the production change
<v Speaker 1>or does it kind of look like this throughout the entirety.
<v Speaker 2>Of this much looks like this, Like if anything changes,
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, they get kind of better with the shots,
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know if there's always six fucking roamors.
<v Speaker 2>I think the cutting is pretty much what like what
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get here, like kind of like in your face,
<v Speaker 2>Like all over the place, the lighting is all the same.
<v Speaker 2>Here they change maybe the canvas and little things like that.
<v Speaker 2>There's more people start coming, so like it fills out
<v Speaker 2>a lot more. But in terms of look, this is
<v Speaker 2>pretty much what they stay with for pretty much most
<v Speaker 2>of the run. Like I said, they eventually leave here
<v Speaker 2>to go to a different temple, and that one's a
<v Speaker 2>little brighter, which I also didn't love. Yeah, no's it
<v Speaker 2>stays pretty close to this.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, Okay, did you like this? I enjoyed it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a quick watch. You know, I've
<v Speaker 1>changed as a wrestling fan since this first aired. Sure,
<v Speaker 1>And you know I was able to get through everything
<v Speaker 1>I thought. You know, I was excited to see what
<v Speaker 1>they would do and the follow up. And I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I know that a lot of people think very highly
<v Speaker 1>of this show and it's run, and I'd like to
<v Speaker 1>also think highly of it. So I'd love to see
<v Speaker 1>more of it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we'll have to keep tapping a dude. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>like Darioquato like changes what a general manager is in
<v Speaker 2>my brain because like you know, for years and years,
<v Speaker 2>like it's a heel fucking guy and the commissioner or
<v Speaker 2>general manager like of course they're gonna be a dickhead
<v Speaker 2>and this, that and the other. There's tropes that like
<v Speaker 2>kind of follow that forever, and Darioquato becomes not only
<v Speaker 2>does this guy fucking fill this character out perfectly, but
<v Speaker 2>what they do with them and how he is the
<v Speaker 2>promoter and and what's important. I think you'll like it
<v Speaker 2>a lot kind of the how they play their promoter
<v Speaker 2>role here where like you know, there's just a little
<v Speaker 2>jumping out of here, but there's stuff where like you know,
<v Speaker 2>there's you can cash in stuff, but you have to
<v Speaker 2>give Dario like a week heads up because he needs
<v Speaker 2>a week to promote the match, because that is cool. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>there's stuff like that like that makes the show super
<v Speaker 2>fucking cool. And I'm excited, like you know, once we
<v Speaker 2>tap back more into this or however we want to
<v Speaker 2>do it for you to experience all that, and I'm
<v Speaker 2>excited to kind of relive this stuff too, because I sure, really,
<v Speaker 2>I really liked a lot of this stuff. Well, that
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