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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Darius Rutger Songs a summer tour. Visit Darius Rutger dot com. Follow him on social media. Darius Rutcker, I know you're in London. I'm sure that the news has already gotten over there that we did not get nominated nominated for a sports semi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I woke up to that, you know, all over the BBC this morning.

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Speaker 3: Uh oh, yeah, I heard it, but I'm sorry, man, I understand, I understand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny, but I heard that.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking to the my song if I told you, I really thought that song did.

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Speaker 4: Like I didn't write it, but I thought that song was going to get something.

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Speaker 3: And when they didn't get the CMA nomination, I texted the writer and said, man, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: You should let somebody else cut.

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Speaker 2: You should add Chris Cableton singing, Yeah, nobody else.

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Speaker 4: Thinking that.

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Speaker 2: I was with you when you won your first Grammy in nineteen ninety five. Yeah, and uh so hooting and the Blowfish and that's when I were you up against the band Live uh for that?

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Speaker 3: Uh no, for uh I think the if I remember for Best Artists it was a. I think Alanas and and and I don't know if I might have been in that too, but it was, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was a good day.

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Speaker 2: But they should win an award for the best use of placenta in a song. I don't think too many artists have used that since then in a song.

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Speaker 4: Well, I agree, you know, devonaorious big that's it.

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Speaker 2: But what's it like to win awards?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Man, it's pretty cool. Believe it or believe that at the Grammys every time I've been dominated at one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, really happy for you three times? You're you're three and oh that's true.

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Speaker 4: I'm three.

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Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. And like a lot of the people know, like, uh, did Jimmy Carter?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: The Jimmy Carter Spoken Word Album won a Grammy last year and I'm the only and I sang a song for it. Uh, And I was the only thing. I asked my management, I said, so they want the Grammar? Can I get the Grammy?

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Speaker 4: And it was like, yeah, you want to pay for it?

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Speaker 5: I was like, I got four?

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Speaker 2: Now what about Cmas. Have you been in the audience when they don't call your name?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, uh yeah, yeah I have. But it's but it's.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's okay, you know, I mean, do you know me, man, I don't really expect to win, and so just being nominated's cool.

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Speaker 4: But you know that's that's always cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But what about when you don't get nominated at all? Like us?

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Speaker 4: That's yeah, the moments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like like I said, like the song I there's one songs I thought I should have gotten nominated for and didn't, and it sucks.

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Speaker 4: But I agree.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're the Miami Dolphins of Emmys. The Emmys make me cry.

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Speaker 4: I see that. I get that.

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Speaker 3: I get that, except the Dolphins won two.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem that long ago, doesn't dude?

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Speaker 4: That was the layoup man. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say this all the time. The Dolphins won less than a Dolphins won Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I was seven. I don't about me sixty.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever thought of bailing on the Miami Dolls?

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Speaker 5: Never?

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Speaker 4: Not once? Never?

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Speaker 3: In one in thirteen season gutted me. The one in fifteen season gutted me.

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Speaker 4: But never.

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Speaker 2: But if Dan Marino wasn't your friend and you named your daughter after Dan Marino, would you still be a Dolphins fan?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: I love Dan Marino and he's one of my favorite but I'm some creezy and and you know Jim Kick and Warris you know, those who are my wars.

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Speaker 4: You know that was that was my liney golf, you know. But yeah, I've never thought about leaving.

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Speaker 2: Uh how big are you in London? Like when you walk around you get noticed.

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Speaker 3: I can recognize Evan now and then you know that it is definitely not like in the States, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I played the O two. You know, I played the O two a Reno I players, so you know I do okay over here. Yeah, yeah, but definitely I like the space.

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Speaker 2: And then I'll see you this summer. You'll be yeah, you'll be nearby in the Bridgeport again now and you're coming out. Oh, ye'all come out now. We still wouldn't want to offer a sincere apology for the last time. When Todd played the second song, so you paid up on a bet and I told Tom Todd, I said, Todd sing one Hall of Oates song. Did you know he was going to sing a second Hall of Oats song that night?

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Speaker 4: No, the band didn't even tell me. Tell me it was.

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Speaker 2: Awesome when you looked at me off stage when Fritzy's singing, and you you mouthed, you know, I pay up on my bets, and I felt bad because I think you realized it was funny in the moment when we made the bet, but it wasn't funny to the audience who had no idea who Todd was.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 3: But but he's so good. But he's so good. That's the thing that's crazy. He's so good. He can really sing.

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Speaker 2: And not that nice not that night that was okay. How many lead singers sing with their hands in their pockets.

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Speaker 4: Pritty, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Liked Freddie Mercury didn't do it, or Robert Playout or Jagger, But Todd had hands in his belt.

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Speaker 4: I can't think of one, but does.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations though, in order though, with what you're doing over in London with a you got tour coming up.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely great to see it. Hey, this is guy. I just tell you something real quick. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: Like ten minutes before I was coming on, I'm just sitting around and I'm thinking about it. I was like, hey, man, I got you know, I'm real good friends with Jimmy Johnson's you know. I was like, hey, it takes Jimmy and asked him, this is okay because we just decided to do this, and you know, we can announce now that I'm one of the investors and one of the owners of the Legacy Motor Club, So so you know I don't last car teams Danno can.

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Speaker 2: Me also, you're you're Jimmy Johnson's Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, this is you will love this. I just look, I said, I want would I see Michael?

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Speaker 3: I will go, Hey, Michael Man, we got to start a new club African American NAS.

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Speaker 2: It's not We've doesn't take long to call Roll, you know what, get Tyler Perry maybe he could get involved here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool. But yeah, you know how much I little motorsports, you know what. I believe in the NASCAR for years, So this is pretty cool for me.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that. I know you're saying there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's a lot of races and stuff and I's got a lot of friends, you know, in that star.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, this is this is pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Southern man, come on, okay, we were talking about this with Michael Jordan. How involved is it? North Carolina? Hubert Davis getting fired and I'm curious how how involved are you with South Carolina.

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Speaker 4: It's not like that, you know what I say would make a difference, But.

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Speaker 6: Uh, I get I get TXs like when when things are getting tough, they check how I mean it doesn't I don't think it would really matter, but they check.

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Speaker 4: What I would think, Yes, I would say that.

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Speaker 2: But like investing, you know, can can you do be part of the collective?

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Speaker 4: There?

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Speaker 2: I know you you got like some train car that you party and when you go to South carolinaotball.

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Speaker 4: I had a part of the collection. I'm playing the show there. Hey, there you go, ap eleven. I'm playing to show with the at the basketball.

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Speaker 3: Rata for for the collector for the nail for the nail thing and uh yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Think I got not a lot of I got, Like I tell you one thing.

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of national championship rings that are gone as hell.

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Speaker 2: Did you get wait, you got her wedding ring on?

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Speaker 4: Oh it's just my or ring to work out? Oh I am not married now I did not get married. You will know, okay, you will know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how's your bracket?

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Speaker 4: By the way, not good?

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Speaker 6: Not good?

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Speaker 4: But you know who's this good?

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Speaker 3: And this is me, dam this is like so me, you know, like I'm in seven fantasy leagues and make the playoff for one.

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Speaker 4: I do this league I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing this great bracket thing with some buddies of minor but there's fourteen of us and we do a lot of sports stuff together and we're doing a brack. And I looked yesterday, Man, I'm in the last place.

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Speaker 2: And you gamble too, Oh man, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I gamble. I gamble, And yeah, I'm still gonna do this.

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Speaker 3: Me and my buddy that played golf and said, we're gonna start a website and it's gonna be we have a great name for it's gonna be the bets I make. And I'm gonna tell you an hour before the game starts, my best I'm gonna make, and you should go against me.

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Speaker 4: And that's gonna be the whole website.

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Speaker 2: But do you bet like Barkley level?

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Speaker 4: No? Man, no, Dan, you know I'm too scared to be broke every do anything like we broke again. No, No, not at all. But you know it's gonna be enough to hurt. But but not like that.

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Speaker 2: All right, If I said the Dolphins can win a Super Bowl or the Reds can win the World Series since you have your Cincinnati Reds T shirt on.

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Speaker 4: Oh Dolphins, okay, oh definitely, yeah Dolphins. I love the Reds helped me won's World Series. But yeah, Dolphins ball.

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Speaker 2: But you love Barry Larkin, don't you?

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Speaker 4: My favorite baseball player ball time? Yes? I love Verry Lowton nineties team and that nineties team, are you tidding me? Great team?

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Speaker 3: Eric Davis, Eric Davis, that whole team and then the uh, the pictures from the as saying after they get swept.

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Speaker 4: You know the thing that sucks is the best team didn't win. You just lost four games in a row. Yeah, that was a great team.

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Speaker 2: When you're coming back state side, uh.

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Speaker 4: Elite, elite, all all the April that chosen stuff to do. So you know what we need to get together?

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Speaker 2: Man, Okay, we will.

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Speaker 4: We're getting old, bro, we're getting old.

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Speaker 1: You are you're older than me. Dude.

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Speaker 2: You had a hair win I knew you.

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Speaker 4: That was pretty cool too, it was you know.

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Speaker 2: It's so weird, awful, it's so weird to see you with hair back then.

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Speaker 4: Dude.

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Speaker 3: You remember, I remember who was wearing the hair and I had the Couldes set.

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Speaker 4: Move with me. Bad days, bad days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you don't miss your hair.

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Speaker 4: D you not at all? If I could go back, I would know, no way, No, I don't miss it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, thanks for joining us. I love you, man, I'll talk to you soon. We'll soon, all right, thank you, But that's Darius Rutger.

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Speaker 2: Yea, we segue into North Carolina Sports. Scott Fowler back with us Charlotte Observers sports columnist. What's in worse shape? Carolina basketball? Carolina football?

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Speaker 7: Well, Dan, first of all, you're nominated in my book, absolutely, thank you, scon thank you. Sorry, I'm not getting any of those burritas. But I think the answer to that question is clear. Eighty five percent of those people are indeed right, football is worse off. I mean, whoever they hire here as a you know, as the basketball coach, this remains one of the five best jobs in college sports, and I have confidence that the program will return to some prominence, but right now it's obviously lost some luster. Really has How did that happen? You know, I think that's a good question. Gradually and then all at once. I think it became after Roy left. They have not quite figured out how to sustain it. You know, Hubert Davis had a great first year and the last four years have been sort of trying to recapture that magic. And the last these two first round exits in a row, and in today's environment, I don't think this would have happened twenty years ago. I don't think you get fired for something like this, And make no mistake, he was ousted. This was not Hubert, you know, a parting of the ways. This was Hubert wanted to stay. But yeah, I think in today's climate it's very you know, a lot of impatience, a lot of donors and boosters with a lot of influence.

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Speaker 2: And that's where we are. And you're measured by the school eight miles down the road. And they made a seamless transition from their hall of fame coach to John Shier. They've come up with incredible recruiting classes here. So having that the proximity, if I'm a donor, a booster, a collective, I'm only measuring North Carolina. I don't measuring North Carolina with anybody else in America, only with Duke. That's a tough comparison, Scott.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, I think you're right on the money there, Dan he if Duke was in New York or something, you know, it doesn't it's not the same. But because that is the blue blood rivalry to end all rivalries around here, and Duke has been so darned good and they're good again and they might win another championship and plus now they they seem to have employ the best player and employee literally employee the best player in America. Like now, it's been two years in a row with Cooper Flag and Boozer, and Carolina had one of those players. And if Caleb Wilson hadn't gotten hurt, I'm not sure that Hubert Davis would have this would have happened.

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Speaker 4: But it did.

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Speaker 7: I was at the game in Greenville when they blew the nineteen point lead, and even then in the I was in that postgame press conference and asked one of those questions too, and oh it was.

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Speaker 2: It was bad news.

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Speaker 7: One of the one of the low points of press conferences I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you what information I got this morning from a source saying, I don't imagine Billy Donovan is in play, nor Brad Stevens, Tommy Lloyd at Arizona, johnsh Shirts at Saint Louis make sense. My source also threw in Michael Malone feels like a super creative, capable option as well. Nat Oates feels like he's not controlling his situation. Todd Golden appears to be possessed by spirits when he coaches. Uh, what do you what do you make of that information?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's a lot of fun to speculate.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

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Speaker 7: I can't tell you I know anything about really where they're going to go next.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 7: Accept And I wrote this today, uh in our in my Charlotte Observer column. It's got to be outside the family, Dan, They're just no, there is no Roy Williams waiting in the wings inside the Carolina Blue umbrella. You have to expand. And all the people you're talking about are, you know, not in the really in the umbrella. But people always are like, oh, only you know I went to UNC. I don't need to have a UNC coach, you know, somebody who knows where the old well is. You just need to be able to win, and you have to be able to beat Duke and you have to get out of the first weekend of the NCAA tournament every single year.

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Speaker 2: Scott Fowler, Charlotte Observers sports columnist. How involved is Michael Jordan in the basketball program?

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Speaker 7: I don't think terribly involved. I mean, he can, of course step in and help and be involved anytime he wants to be. But my conversations with Michael and I've seen a fair amount of him because he's so involved in his NASCAR team right now. He was, you know, he won the big NASCAR trial here in Charlotte in December and now is one four of six races in NASCAR. I mean, that is that is a lot of his focus lies. He wants them to get it right, obviously, but I don't think Michael Jordan is the man behind the curtain pulling the strings here.

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard much about Bill Belichick in Carolina. Football is good, It's probably good. Yeah, yeah, Okay, they finished Okay, didn't he?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I guess it wasn't an abject disaster by the end, but they were still about four and eight. I think I'm remembering that record, right. You know. The funny thing is they opened spring practice yesterday and then Hubert got fired at night the same very same day. They'll probably be a little better. I think Belichick is going to learn from some mistakes there. But that's one where I just, you know, I just don't know that that's honestly gonna work out long term.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering what is long term? M Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean I think he's got one more year for sure, and then probably a third, and then it better be right at that point. But if they went two and ten this year, all bets are off. But if they're six and six, which may be more like what it's going to be. I think he gets a third year.

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Speaker 2: Is he getting married? I don't know, Dan.

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Speaker 7: If so, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Invited, Okay, I mean neither. Thank you, Scott, thanks for joining us. Great to see you again.

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Speaker 7: Great to see you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We make way from Il Kuiper Draft Expert and you can see him the NFL Draft Daily and the Mock Draft, dropping on Tuesday, April fourteenth. Great to see you again, Mel. Give me the one thing that would make you change your opinion now that no games are played leading up to the draft. But what information changes where you slaughtch somebody in the draft?

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Speaker 5: Dan first, were great to be with you as always. I think the only thing you want to wait on is guys that didn't do much at the combine that what do they do during their pro days? Anything you hear from an interview. Anything you hear about an injury late Dan could alter some things. Certainly at this stage of the game. You better know who can play and who can't play. It's all those little things that you could tueak it with. I'm coming up in another week with the top one fifty. You do that every year and those rankings. I tell you if you lose some sleepover and Dan at the end of the day, so many players in this draft are within a range where you could go one way or the other. You're only splitting hairs. This is one of those drafts where you know, it's a lot of mixed opinion and there's very few positions where you have tremendous depth in the Day three, but wide receiver is one of those. And it's trying to separate forty five receivers Dan and have draftall grades.

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Speaker 4: It's not easy.

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Speaker 2: But what is the one thing though, that separates wide receivers well.

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Speaker 5: In this particular draft when you look at the guys that if the production and the consistency, you got to catch the ball. And I understand people say, hey, you always have a couple drops that are concentration drops. Who catches the football and you also have to weigh in what was responsible for that. And you look at a Zachariah Branch, who I love. He went the goat to the gauntlet. He caught the ball at the combine, so effortless. Sep Let's say, well, he had a couple of dry he's a bubble screen guy. He didn't hear the ball down the field. So it's how you view projecting a college player Dan into the NFL. And if you remember back not that long ago, Zave Flowers, Jordan Addison, Jackson Smith and Jigbo Offensive Player of the Year Quinton Johnson, they were all first rounders. There are some experts that none of them deserve to be in the first round. So all four turned three at a four turn, that'd be great. So at the end of the day, mixed opinion reigns supreme this year more than other. And the other Dan that I can ever remember, because there's so many guys with very similar grades and one little bit of information can swing it one way.

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Speaker 2: Or the other is Fernando men Mendoza, a great story, great quarterback or both.

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Speaker 5: Thank he's both. Think he's a great story. He's a great quarterback. To see him what he did at Cal to watch him, and I did that the other day. I went back to sacks that he took and it was like forty one sacks at Cal. And he goes to Indiana. He knows he has to improve on that and he did so. That extra that year in college really benefited him. From that standpoint, Dan Layton plays, how consistent he was making the right decision late in the play was outstanding. The way he did under pressure in games. Leveruld say, well, they won in some cake walks, right. They didn't against Penn State, they didn't against Oregon. There were games that were hotly confessed. He had to make plays late. Iowa was defense will frustrate the hell out of you, Dan, they really will. Phil Parker does a great job. Look what they did against Dante Moore. You know, you think about quarterbacks against Iowa, and again he did what he had to do late in that game. So for me, he answered every question that you had from Cal to Indiana because we had great talent. Well go into the year. I know Omar Cooper Junior could be a first round receiver, Elijah Sharratz a good third round receiver. You Roman Hem became from Maryland, did a good job run the ball, and Kaylin Black did a good job as well, being at one two punch. But for me, Fernando Mendoza for what he did from start to finish with the pressure and in the playoffs stand eight touchdown passes, no picks and a rushing touchdown and he was at seventy five percent in the three biggest games of the year at the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: If you were drafting him on what you saw at Cow, not Indiana, where would Mendoza go?

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Speaker 5: Well, he probably, you know, going into the year, you hoped he would improve. If you would have just come out after the Cow year, you probably would have been thinking maybe because of the talent that he had. He showed what he could do at col even what he had some situations that weren't benefiting the quarterback that he had to deal with. I'm talking about pressure from the defensive front. He still probably would have been a second round pick, late first round pick. So he was a guy that people thought. I'm on people in the NFL. My friends in the league, Dan thought back in August he could be a guy to keep a close eye on. But there were other guys that were talking about Arch Manning being the number one pick guaranteed. Yeah, you're talking about Sam Levin coming off that great year at Arizona State, Leonora Sellers at South Carolina. Tons of quarterbacks were talked about a lot more than ty Simpson from Alabama, and certainly for Nando Mendoza from Indiana. And now all of a sudden, I got Mendozo's number one of my big board. Dan and ty Simson's twenty five won my big board.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a big disparity, one to twenty five. Dan Arlovsky loves him some, Ty Simpson. What is Orlovsky seeing that? Maybe you're not seeing? Yeah, I know Dan.

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Speaker 5: When he explained it, and I just went back away. I would counter that. You say, Okay, you know the factors that you have to look at closely. You know who's the bigger quarterback four inches nearly four inches taller, twenty five pounds heavier. You think about the experience, Dan, fifteen starts is a dangerous risky number for ty Simpson. Look at the you know the seven eight quarterbacks that had below twenty starts and look how they fared not well. So again that's a risky number. Fernando has thirty five starts. Dan, he had a completion president of seventy two percent. Ty was around sixty four percent. Seven rushing touchdowns for Fernando, two for Simpson. So you talk about accuracy, you talk about decision making, you talk about being able to see the field, dealing with pressure to have about expectations, Dan, when you're an Indiana quarterback and you roll through the year and you get to the playoffs, everybody's saying, after what happened last year, Okay, when you know Indiana had a great regular season, then you lose a notre name. Well, let's see if the Ada can finished the job. Now they're playing big time opponents. He did that with all that pressure. Then he wins the Heisman. Then he has to go win a national title. Right. He always talked about cracking the code, and he is obsessed with that. He kind of has that Peyton Manning ability in that regard to just be so into what he's doing and studying it so hard. He's got a little Matt Ryan in him. So I think if you look at comps, it would be kind of a Peyton Manning Matt Ryan comp for Fernando Mendoza. Dan explained, that I don't agree. Everybody has their opinion. I was big on Shador Sanders last year, and I thought Shador played well this year. We'll see how it plays out. For Ty Simpson, I think that with fifteen stars, sure at sixty, but fifteen starts, you need to have a chance to transition to the NFL another year at Alabama, I think it would have helped him. He had five straight games DAN where he had a fumble lost, and then he had another fumble loss which was a sixth against Indiana in the playoff game when he got hit by D'Angelo Pons and cracked that rib. So those are at an area he could have improved upon. He get sacked and coughing up. Can't do that in the NFL, where you're expected. Dan. In the NFL, and you guys know what you talk about every week, Guy is a bad game.

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Speaker 4: What happened?

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Speaker 5: He's not playing well. You are scrutinized, you are picked apart, and you're expected to play at a consistently high level every week in the NFL. And you don't get any free pass as you'r a rookie or a second year quarterback in this league, they will chew you up and spit you out before you can blink. You better be prepared to deal with that mental part as opposed to the physical part. Mendoz went back, got another year, improved in that key area. Ty Simpson I think needed another year. He's not gonna get it. So you better be patient with ty Simpson and realize to force him in this year as a rookie, and they all do, Dan, they all are gonna play. Maybe asking a little too much.

00:26:05
Speaker 2: If Arch Manning was available in this draft, you know, that's.

00:26:12
Speaker 5: A tough question. That's a very difficult question because of what you expect Arch to be this coming year based on the talent, the way he can run together. But he's got to improve that accuracy and the decision, all the things that another year is gonna been. I was so happy. That's why I never put him on the big board.

00:26:28
Speaker 3: Dan.

00:26:29
Speaker 5: I never put him in anything because I said he's got to go back. Archie said that back in August. Don't put him in it. He needs another year. So the expectations and the struggles back. Remember only in the year everybody was building up to be to trifect the Dan. He was gonna win a Heisman Trophy. He was gonna be the number one pick in the draft, and he was going to lead the Texas to a national title. Are you kidding me? Really, that's what you're gonna put on his shoulders. And he didn't accomplish that. So again, now he's going back. So had it gone the way expected, he'd been clear cut number one guy Dan for on talent, but he didn't had that kind of year. It was uneven. Started out pretty bad, and then it got better and you saw glimpses of God, he's gonna be the guaranteed number one pick this coming year. But to say, you know, assume that was gonna happen, it didn't happen. It didn't come together. So he'd have been right there with Mendoz. And I think that's minimizing how good Fernando is.

00:27:18
Speaker 4: Dan.

00:27:18
Speaker 5: When you say automatically put Archi ahead of Mendoza, it's not a force. He's not up there because he's a quarterback and the Raiders have to take a quarterback. Mendoza is there because he earned it and he's got a lot of talent. And when you got comps the Peyton, Manning and Matt Ryan, that tells you all you need to know.

00:27:33
Speaker 2: Mel kiper draft expert. You can catch his NFL mock Draft four point zero dropping on Tuesday, April fourteen. I fell in love with Jeremiah Love when I saw him in person, and I know, I think you have him as your second highest rated player behind Mendoza. I know that the philosophy is don't take a running back up that high. But I have somebody who is unique and different than anybody else. It feels like in the draft, I just don't I don't understand that that. If I'm Tennessee, I mean, I gotta have that guy. I can't go. Oh, I got to worry about a second contract. The NFL was about now in the next two years. It feels like with these guys and coaches, So why wouldn't he go? Well, how high do you think Jeremiah Love will go and should go?

00:28:24
Speaker 5: Dan? You know who's responsible for that philosophy? I am right. That was the philosophy that started twenty five years ago. And I got screened that screened at, yelled at tell it all kind of stuff. And I really believe that back in those days, you could I've kind of come around and not come around, But I'm agreeing with you on this point. He's more than a running back. If he were not a great receiving option, I'd be saying, no, no, he has not multi dimensional enough. But as a receiving option, I'm talking about swing pass, the screen passes, day and checkdowns.

00:28:53
Speaker 4: I'm talking about put.

00:28:54
Speaker 5: Him out in the slot. Put him why he can do that. So for me, because he's so more than just a running back, he is worthy of being the second pick, third pick to Arizona, fourth pick to Tennessee, seventh pick to Washington, wherever it may be. So for me, yes, Christian McCaffrey, say for Washington. Came there, you know, came to the forty nine ers, right, and look what he's done for the Niners. Christian McCaffrey, who is a GM Adam Peters. Adam Peters is at Washington. Adam Peters had some serviceable backs, but he doesn't have a Jeremiah Love for Jayde Daniels, who's a fear factor quarterback. You put a fear factor player weapon like Jeremiah Love with Jayde and Daniels. You got something special going on there, and so much for defenses to worry about. So I'm with you on Jeremiah Love. He's the second best player in the draft behind Mendoza for me, somethink, but he's the best player in this draft. So again, he's more than worthy of being a top four. Certainly, if he gets down to seven, it would be almost you know how long you have to wait for Washington to take that card up, because that would make perfect sense for them.

00:29:55
Speaker 2: NFL Hall of Fame Contributors to the Game. I keep talking about you. I never reached out to you, but I felt this strongly about Brent Musburger and went to the Hall of Fame and wrote a letter. You should be in the Hall of Fame one day as a contributor to the game.

00:30:16
Speaker 5: I appreciate that, Dan, and I know Adam has mentioned. I appreciate that you've been great friends for all these years. But I just feel like I don't want a part of anything. I just want to do what I do. Joel Buschbound was there before me. Joel was great, late great Joel Bushbounce started this a long time ago. There are plenty of other people doing this before me. I just got an opportunity for me ESPN to take it to the entire world and be somebody that was talking about the draft one television, radio and then the dot com and all the different entities we do it on. So it is something that you know, I will say is Dand one thing I did get right was how popular the draft would be when everybody was fighting against the ESPN. Don't televise it. Nobody wants to just hear names called. Everybody was fighting against me. Why is anybody watching the draft? Why does anybody care? What Kuiper says. I dealt with that hostility, negativity and hate up until really the early two thousand stand when even the haters had to just shut up or jump on board because they hated on me. I started this in nineteen seventy eight, seventy nine, Dan, and to I just say, the only thing I did was I survived the hate. If I read you the scathing articles and the comments that were made from really seventy nine up until two thousand, it would say, how did you last that long? I took a lot of hits in the pocket. Then I appreciate that, Pal. I certainly I would rather avoid anything that comes my way from an individual stam because's too eighty people at ESPN along the way contributed to what the draft has become. To say, I'm responding now, it's the NFL, the king of all sports, and ESPN doing what they did from the get go, recognizing what this could be and having that vision, and then the production and all the blood, sweat and tears that went on to putting this on television. Those guys, all guys and gals, those men and women deserve all the credits.

00:32:03
Speaker 2: It sounds like an acceptance speech right there. I mean, that's like but I okay. I wrote a letter about John Facenda. I said he should be in the Hall of Fame, and the number of people said he's not in the Hall of fame. In the hall of fame. To their credit, UH found a way to get John Facenda.

00:32:21
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that voice. Are you kidding me?

00:32:23
Speaker 2: Dan, They went in the Hall of fame. That's he might be. When you talk about contributors, all those NFL films, everything that we saw, I mean, they were magical growing up, and I just thought voices.

00:32:36
Speaker 5: Voices led us led me to become. I said this to Bill Fleming, the Bill Fletning, the Great Bill Fleming, when I taught I called him specifically to tell him that that he the college football today that's half an hour show where he saw games before Brenton before NFL today. Right, it's a half hour before seeing the bands at halftime. That's what led me and led a lot of people to becoming college football fans, right, and NFL fans and Howard Cosell and Monday Night Football and Don Meredith, will you'll turn out the lights and all the voices you know of college football and the NFL, Chris Shankle. You think about Bud Wilkinson, by the way, I took over for Bud doing the draft when Bud Wilkinson retired, I took over that spot, right, And you think about I say, Lindsey Nelson and all the incredible voices Keith Jackson that were responsible for us all becoming great college and pro football fans that we are. So you're right, John Facenda, nobody had that voice. Nobody will ever touch that.

00:33:35
Speaker 2: Thanks again, continue to have the passion. That's the one thing that leaves us. I think as we get older, the passion. And you're as passionate as you were when I first met you, when I first got to the Mothership. So thank you. Again for doing what you do, meiling.

00:33:49
Speaker 5: The passion the windows, Dad, I will walk away. How I guarantee you

00:33:52
Speaker 2: That mel kiper draft expert