SASQUATCH SIGHTING ON THE HOPE RIVER IN CANADA | MASSIVE WATER CREATURE EMERGED FROM THE RIVER

<v Speaker 1>Tonight on Sasquatch Theory, we travel into the deep forest
<v Speaker 1>and rivers of Canada, where prayer, faith, and the unknown collide.
<v Speaker 1>Randy shares chilling encounters involving a nine foot sasquatch, a
<v Speaker 1>terrifying scream near Vancouver Island, and a massive water cryptid
<v Speaker 1>witness by multiple people. Where these experiences random or are
<v Speaker 1>they answered prayers? You decide this is an episode.
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<v Speaker 1>dive straight into Randy's bigfoot and cryptid encounters from the
<v Speaker 1>Canadian wilderness. All right, First of all, Randy, welcome Sasquatch Theory.
<v Speaker 1>If you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
<v Speaker 1>where you're from, and your experiences from the very beginning, please.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, my basically, I'm from Saskatchewan, which is the central
<v Speaker 3>part of Canada, of the farming area, but twenty over,
<v Speaker 3>twenty oh man thirty years ago, twenty years ago, and
<v Speaker 3>moved to KAMLOOPSBC. Then eventually we moved to Colowna and
<v Speaker 3>that's where it started beginning. Had a mentor who had
<v Speaker 3>sawd the Sasquatch And do you mind if I talk
<v Speaker 3>about spirituality?
<v Speaker 1>You know, absolutely mentioned anything that you feels connected to
<v Speaker 1>the subject.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I had a mentor or who was having
<v Speaker 3>These were Christians, and he was having these incredible miracles
<v Speaker 3>around prayer, like he prayed. He had seven kids. He
<v Speaker 3>just started to yell and go, God, you gave me
<v Speaker 3>these seven kids. Could be a job. And he had
<v Speaker 3>a thirty thousand dollars job he could do the week.
<v Speaker 3>And so this is guy's this an eccentric guy that
<v Speaker 3>was kind of attracted to. He was an artist. I'm
<v Speaker 3>a guitar musician, producer, rapper, you know. Anyway, so we'd
<v Speaker 3>hang out and he had this prophecy over his life
<v Speaker 3>from his sisters. He said, you've been asking God to
<v Speaker 3>see the Sasquats. So that this sounds crazy, but he
<v Speaker 3>never told anybody that. And then him and his nephew,
<v Speaker 3>we're driving on the Hope River. They're driving from I
<v Speaker 3>guess it would be from Vancouver back to Kolowna and
<v Speaker 3>they look down on the riverbed and so this is
<v Speaker 3>like so the Aghazi and like Mission and Hope and
<v Speaker 3>they're all nearby. And that's where we get the d
<v Speaker 3>no saasquart settings or the words of squatch. It's a
<v Speaker 3>native word, right, like the I think of the carrier
<v Speaker 3>Indians in that area. They talk about the sasqusch all
<v Speaker 3>the time. Right. But anyway, so he told me the
<v Speaker 3>story that they thought some guy there was no cars,
<v Speaker 3>but there was some guys downing on the riverbed and
<v Speaker 3>when they got closer they realized he was like nine
<v Speaker 3>feet tall and you know, a huge thing, and they
<v Speaker 3>kind of went into shock. But he comes and tells
<v Speaker 3>me the story. So I'm like, wow, that's incredible, right,
<v Speaker 3>And there's some other stories I to do with other
<v Speaker 3>stuff that happened, like with Cryptois. I don't know if
<v Speaker 3>you want to talk about that.
<v Speaker 1>But absolutely, let's talk about everything and describe everything with
<v Speaker 1>as much detail as possible, as far as what they
<v Speaker 1>told you it looked like, what it did and what
<v Speaker 1>they felt like.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well they well they said they said they couldn't
<v Speaker 3>talk for twenty minutes. They kind of both went into
<v Speaker 3>shock and all he could say, I think it was Nathan.
<v Speaker 3>He said uncle, and he just said I know. And
<v Speaker 3>they just they said it was so big, and I'll
<v Speaker 3>talk about about that. I know what they experience. They
<v Speaker 3>just said, why would there be anyone down standing in
<v Speaker 3>a dry river bed? There's no cars, right, So that was,
<v Speaker 3>to be honest, I was a really brief encounter. But
<v Speaker 3>what sparked in me that we could this is something
<v Speaker 3>that we could pray for. We could see he used
<v Speaker 3>to gote the script in the Bible. God is able
<v Speaker 3>to keep all his creation. Another one is we talk
<v Speaker 3>about a lot. Is is the glory of the Lord
<v Speaker 3>to conceal the matter. It is the glory of kings
<v Speaker 3>to find it out right, so we can ask to
<v Speaker 3>see there's something about mystery that we all got kind
<v Speaker 3>of put in God put in our hearts. And the
<v Speaker 3>exciting thing is where sons of God, we can ask
<v Speaker 3>our heavenly Father and he can show us these things. Right.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, I'm about twenty eight, twenty nine years
<v Speaker 3>old at the time, so this is all just like
<v Speaker 3>you know, this guy's this really eccentric guy having these
<v Speaker 3>weird miracles and stuff, and financial miracles and prophecy. It's
<v Speaker 3>all really enabored by it. But so that was one thing.
<v Speaker 3>And then he had the same experience with the Oga Pogo,
<v Speaker 3>which is our kind of locknest monster of the Okanagan,
<v Speaker 3>and he saw that at the top of Mount Blucherie
<v Speaker 3>with sixty other people, and so he had the same thing.
<v Speaker 3>God help me see this. He could go down to
<v Speaker 3>the dock and he would call out to God and say,
<v Speaker 3>you know, God showed me this thing, and I think it.
<v Speaker 3>The whole head submerged like twenty feet away from him,
<v Speaker 3>completely silent. And so because I'm being influenced by him,
<v Speaker 3>I started to do that stuff. So I end up
<v Speaker 3>seeing both had two encounters with Sasquash and two encounters
<v Speaker 3>of the Oga Pogo. Which one you want me to
<v Speaker 3>tell you about first? I can't remember what's happened first.
<v Speaker 2>Either one is fine with me, but okay.
<v Speaker 3>I'll go back to the Sasquatch one. Because so, my my,
<v Speaker 3>me and my daughters had this incredible just opportunity to
<v Speaker 3>go surfing every summer for years, and that was another
<v Speaker 3>kind of a miracle. We'd always have financial miracle at
<v Speaker 3>the end of August, and I was just divorced dad
<v Speaker 3>single dad, and it was really important to me to
<v Speaker 3>bomb with my kids. So we would go surfing every summer.
<v Speaker 3>Every summer and I have some supernatural miracle and we're
<v Speaker 3>going surfing. But about three or four or five months before,
<v Speaker 3>we were up about Sasquatch inn in Mission for h
<v Speaker 3>It would be in the hot springs near Mission and
<v Speaker 3>the Gazi Harrison hot Springs. They actually have a hotel
<v Speaker 3>called the Sasquatch and that's where all the natives talk
<v Speaker 3>about the sasquatches like a creature, right, they called it
<v Speaker 3>the Squatch. Anyway, So I'm with my little eight year
<v Speaker 3>old daughter and as a joke, I said, hey, let's
<v Speaker 3>ask Jesus to see the Sasquatch. And she got down
<v Speaker 3>her knees and said not not tonight's Jesus and at
<v Speaker 3>a safe distance. So you know, I thought I was
<v Speaker 3>I was just joking around, right. We went up, finished camping,
<v Speaker 3>going home, and for about a year two we'd always
<v Speaker 3>look forward, we're going surfing or camping, where is it
<v Speaker 3>this thing? You know, maybe we'll see it. So one
<v Speaker 3>they were going surfing and I'm on driving. We're on
<v Speaker 3>the other side of the Hope River. Now we're going
<v Speaker 3>from Koloonna to Vancouver round, so we're heading towards Vancouver.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm driving. To our right is the Hope River
<v Speaker 3>and then across there's like a bit of a shore
<v Speaker 3>where there's fishing derbys, right, so you can see fishermen
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. Actually, let me just let me
<v Speaker 3>go back a little bit, okay, Okay, So before this time,
<v Speaker 3>we would go to this family camp from our church,
<v Speaker 3>but it was out in our soyus, right, so we
<v Speaker 3>would go from Colonna and drive like two or three
<v Speaker 3>hours to this part. So in Osias they have an
<v Speaker 3>observatory and that is basically a telescope that you can
<v Speaker 3>look into the stars in the mountains, right, but you
<v Speaker 3>have to park your car ten minutes away, five ten
<v Speaker 3>minutes away, so the fumes don't get in the way
<v Speaker 3>of the telescope, right, so they can properly observe the constellations.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 3>So my girls are now like seven and nine. I'm
<v Speaker 3>thinking this is a little while ago, and this is
<v Speaker 3>twenty bus basically this is twenty years ago. So we're
<v Speaker 3>walking and it's getting dark, it's getting dusk, and we
<v Speaker 3>have to now walk like seven ten minutes back to
<v Speaker 3>our vehicle. And I heard this scream, like the craziest
<v Speaker 3>thing I've ever heard in my entire life. It was
<v Speaker 3>like a horror movie. It was like it wasn't a howl,
<v Speaker 3>and it wasn't a wolf, it wasn't a cougar, it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a bear. It was like a monster basically. And
<v Speaker 3>this is twenty years ago, like pre YouTube pre like
<v Speaker 3>I don't it might even even been pre like hearing
<v Speaker 3>this tale. This all gets next up in twenty years,
<v Speaker 3>but I remember, I remember it just going that's not human.
<v Speaker 3>That's not a coyote, and that's not a wolf, and
<v Speaker 3>that's not a cougar. But when when you go through
<v Speaker 3>something like that, you don't know how to process it.
<v Speaker 3>So I just grabbed my daughters and like we're walking faster,
<v Speaker 3>you know. But it's kind of it was double and doubible,
<v Speaker 3>like I did, like, you know, I didn't know what
<v Speaker 3>to think. I just knew, Okay, I've had some I've
<v Speaker 3>had some encounter here. But again I'm a young dad.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like thirty two years older whatever. I don't really
<v Speaker 3>twenty eight years old. I don't really you know, I
<v Speaker 3>can't really process that. You forget it, right. And then
<v Speaker 3>the next thing that happened was so after my daughter
<v Speaker 3>says that little prayer, God must have heard us, because
<v Speaker 3>it literally happened exactly word for word. The wait what
<v Speaker 3>she prayed like in that little childlike faith thing? You
<v Speaker 3>know she hear her niece said, I want to see
<v Speaker 3>not tonight Jesus, and I want to see it from
<v Speaker 3>a safe distance. So we're traveling. I'm looking over the
<v Speaker 3>Hope River and I see something and she sees it. Two.
<v Speaker 3>She goes, Daddy, what's that? Look? I just take a
<v Speaker 3>little glance. So we have this like three to five
<v Speaker 3>minute like pocket of trees being open, you know where
<v Speaker 3>the tree cover and everything. But we're driving like for
<v Speaker 3>five ten minutes or whatever it is, and you can
<v Speaker 3>look and you can look and look at the river. Right.
<v Speaker 3>So I saw when it was a black bear, and
<v Speaker 3>I saw something black and dark and hairy on the
<v Speaker 3>shore and I'm not sure what it is in yards,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not very good with that. But you can look
<v Speaker 3>across and watch this right, And she goes, Daddy, he's
<v Speaker 3>standing up. So I look again. I see this figure
<v Speaker 3>walking and I said, oh, that's probably a fisherman in
<v Speaker 3>all dark clothes. And for whatever reason, I don't know why,
<v Speaker 3>I remember this like perfectly right, and she had the
<v Speaker 3>better view of me, and I'm watching traffic, right, I'm
<v Speaker 3>just trying to drive. She goes, Daddy, he has hair
<v Speaker 3>on his face, So it was kind of confusing thinking
<v Speaker 3>about now because she had a way better looking at
<v Speaker 3>the knee. I'm just trying to drive the vehicle going
<v Speaker 3>on the surf trip, and I immediately kind of went
<v Speaker 3>into shock, like we are looking as a sasquatch, you know.
<v Speaker 3>But then just like it started, it was over really
<v Speaker 3>quick and the window closed to view it because the
<v Speaker 3>trees came in right, and now we're in a different
<v Speaker 3>part of the river. So I kind of like I
<v Speaker 3>remember I called my friend because my friend was a filmmaker,
<v Speaker 3>and he got mad and me. He said, why didn't
<v Speaker 3>you film it? I said, dude, there was no time
<v Speaker 3>to grab my iPhone and to try to like stop
<v Speaker 3>or something. But basically watched the sasquatch walk walk in
<v Speaker 3>the shore of the Hope Brewery, which makes sense to
<v Speaker 3>me now that that's the area that they're from, and
<v Speaker 3>that's where my mentor saw it, right, So we're on
<v Speaker 3>this kind of journey where like, okay, I had to
<v Speaker 3>encounter with it. My mentor had an encounter with it.
<v Speaker 3>I think he saw it twice. I'm not sure, but
<v Speaker 3>he had this kind of So we're just this faith
<v Speaker 3>journey where God's saying, hey, I want to show you
<v Speaker 3>the mysteries of the world, you know. So we're like, WHOA,
<v Speaker 3>I think I was in shock. I got on my
<v Speaker 3>phone in chiliwac or Chiliwack rabbits Ord, and I phone
<v Speaker 3>my my I was called my business partner never made
<v Speaker 3>any money, but he's a filmmaker and I'm a producer,
<v Speaker 3>comedian kind of thing, you know. I was doing some
<v Speaker 3>artsy thing and that. And then I think later on
<v Speaker 3>he h, he introduces some other people that contacted me
<v Speaker 3>because they were like wanted to hear about that, especially
<v Speaker 3>the gods part of it, you know. So that was
<v Speaker 3>basically the gist of that. And then personally, I thought
<v Speaker 3>I was in a car wreck three and a half
<v Speaker 3>years ago and I had a brain injury and I
<v Speaker 3>just needed time to recover. I'm still recovering. But Sasquatch
<v Speaker 3>Chronicles came out, and the way they all the ways
<v Speaker 3>that they just I think, you know what, I'm referring
<v Speaker 3>to that YouTube channel.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, So I contacted him. He never filled me.
<v Speaker 3>It didn't really work out. But when you add up
<v Speaker 3>all the stuff that's on the accounts of the other people,
<v Speaker 3>then you get some kind of it kind of formulates,
<v Speaker 3>like what I heard, what I saw, especially the height.
<v Speaker 3>So here's the second part of the sasquatch thing. So
<v Speaker 3>we're driving home and there was a fishing derby, but
<v Speaker 3>now we're physically closer or just a little bit further
<v Speaker 3>away on the other two lane highway driving home, driving
<v Speaker 3>back east, and I looked, and all the fishermen were
<v Speaker 3>like half the size. Because you have some perspective, right,
<v Speaker 3>so I thought, okay, whatever this thing was was like
<v Speaker 3>ten feet tall, you know, and big enough that you
<v Speaker 3>could see it from like half mile away or whatever. Right,
<v Speaker 3>you had a clear view of it. And then now
<v Speaker 3>the perspective is telling me that these things are like
<v Speaker 3>like eight ten feet tall, right, and and and bigger
<v Speaker 3>and bigger enough that you thought you were looking at
<v Speaker 3>like a big black bear or something or twice the
<v Speaker 3>size of a black bear with the perspective anyway, So
<v Speaker 3>that was kind of kind of it for me. And
<v Speaker 3>with that, but I've had people tell me don't talk
<v Speaker 3>about it, you know, especially in Christian circles, like you know,
<v Speaker 3>they are going to think you're crazy. But it was
<v Speaker 3>it was sort of like her first kind of miracle,
<v Speaker 3>you know, or at least for me watching my kids
<v Speaker 3>up the faith, like go, God hears prayers and you know,
<v Speaker 3>like another scripture comes in my my pos a good
<v Speaker 3>pleasure to give you the kingdom, Like this is something
<v Speaker 3>that we can just ask for, right. So then I
<v Speaker 3>had the almost exact mirror experience with the og Pogo,
<v Speaker 3>like almost like literally the whole my whole itun encounters
<v Speaker 3>with Yoga Poga, and they were mirrored. Do you want
<v Speaker 3>me to just keep talking and do you want me
<v Speaker 3>asking you answer any questions?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Let's hear about the Oga Pogo cryptid and then
<v Speaker 1>towards the end, I can ask you questions about your encounters.
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So yeah, the thing that's that's phenomenal to me,
<v Speaker 3>even though they're talking, was it literally happened almost the
<v Speaker 3>same way with Yoga Pogo. I heard about it like
<v Speaker 3>and then like I think the Oga Pogo, Uh, there
<v Speaker 3>was somebody in I think the Ticken that was telling
<v Speaker 3>stories and she wrote a book about it, and the
<v Speaker 3>natives talk about it. So I'll just show you my
<v Speaker 3>own experience of what happened to me, and then I'll
<v Speaker 3>show you like kind of the background a bog which
<v Speaker 3>kind of helped helps you again like get kind of
<v Speaker 3>like form perspective on it, because these things are supposed
<v Speaker 3>to exist for one then you see them, then now
<v Speaker 3>you're forced to kind of like think about what's going on.
<v Speaker 3>So I was with my girlfriend. This was about two
<v Speaker 3>thousand and one, oh man, wonder was that then two
<v Speaker 3>thousand and three or four maybe, And we were just
<v Speaker 3>talking about godsends hots up. We're at dinner party or
<v Speaker 3>you know. But it was dead quiet. We were on
<v Speaker 3>the Castle Loma sign of or the west side of Colonna,
<v Speaker 3>so that is under the bridge where he's famously cited
<v Speaker 3>all the time, right, and we were just talking. We're
<v Speaker 3>there's this really strong feeling of face and just the
<v Speaker 3>supernatural we're just talking about. And so we're in we're
<v Speaker 3>it's it's one in the morning. It's dead quiet, everyone's
<v Speaker 3>gone to bed, like the whole town's gone to bed.
<v Speaker 3>Basically on that side of the lake is really quiet,
<v Speaker 3>really dark. But we're on we're in the We're at
<v Speaker 3>a house, like a beautiful house right on the water,
<v Speaker 3>and so we're talking and it was this feeling of
<v Speaker 3>the supernatural. We're just time to go out and face
<v Speaker 3>and it felt like I just felt like something's going
<v Speaker 3>to happen. I don't know what it is. Something's about
<v Speaker 3>to happen, or we're in the faith realm, you know,
<v Speaker 3>some Christians call it the glory or the Holy Spirit.
<v Speaker 3>We're just kind of sitting there experiencing something, and all
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, it sounded like two hundred people jumped
<v Speaker 3>in the water were thrashing violently. There's no way to
<v Speaker 3>recreate that sound. It was like in this incredible sound
<v Speaker 3>of like like a hundred people jumping and thrashing in
<v Speaker 3>the water. So I ran up to the end of
<v Speaker 3>the pier and there's no one there. So so and
<v Speaker 3>in my perspective is I heard stories from friends in Colonna.
<v Speaker 3>I live in Colone for a long time. Where's my
<v Speaker 3>kids there? We have this these these accounts of that
<v Speaker 3>it would lay people would see in that area on
<v Speaker 3>castaloona right on the shore and then crawl in the water.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's the second part of the story. But
<v Speaker 3>with the perspective of it. I remember in the eighteen hundreds,
<v Speaker 3>like a whole eighty people at a Baptist piced just
<v Speaker 3>watched this thing just get up and walk into the water,
<v Speaker 3>right like his So I win his accounts. All the
<v Speaker 3>natives would say things like that's where it would cross
<v Speaker 3>over from the west side before they had a bridge,
<v Speaker 3>and you would have to they would take a team
<v Speaker 3>of horses and then the oga Poga would just like
<v Speaker 3>pick off horses, you know, like like crazy stuff like that.
<v Speaker 3>So some of this I heard before, some after, but
<v Speaker 3>mostly all these stories and then like reading these books
<v Speaker 3>about the natives and the farmers, and so that was
<v Speaker 3>the phase one, right. So then in somewhere in between there,
<v Speaker 3>my mentor had seen the Oga pogo and he would
<v Speaker 3>get out. So I had a guy come stay with me.
<v Speaker 3>He was my friend's nephew and he was in a
<v Speaker 3>he was in a tough situation with the gangs, isn't
<v Speaker 3>that Cooper, And he had escaped saying I don't want
<v Speaker 3>to go into that. But he came to live with
<v Speaker 3>me for summer, and I was just excited about my
<v Speaker 3>face and all these things happening. So we would go
<v Speaker 3>down the water and I would call the other pogo.
<v Speaker 3>I'd speak speaking times to put my nut of the water,
<v Speaker 3>because that's what my mentor did, right, And so he
<v Speaker 3>he actually thought in his mind, this is what he
<v Speaker 3>told me. Twenty years later, he said, Randy's out of
<v Speaker 3>his mind. I'm going back to Vancouver. So we're and
<v Speaker 3>I thought I taught him out a window cleane. He
<v Speaker 3>come to work with me, He stuff on my couch.
<v Speaker 3>He just kept getting out of that scene, getting out
<v Speaker 3>of the track scene. And his auntie had wanted to mentor,
<v Speaker 3>so she just told me and said, hey, can this
<v Speaker 3>guy sleep on your couch of the summer and you
<v Speaker 3>just get him away from the stuff he needs. And
<v Speaker 3>his mom's praying for a Christian mentor to get him
<v Speaker 3>out of the gang or whatever. There's been like a
<v Speaker 3>near different incident with guns and SA. Anyway, we're going
<v Speaker 3>to work one day and this is this is back
<v Speaker 3>when colony used to have two used to have just yeah,
<v Speaker 3>like like a double bridge, like an iron kind of
<v Speaker 3>like like it looked like the McDonald's emblem iron bridge,
<v Speaker 3>like with the like the It's kind of like anyway,
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter, but if you can look in the
<v Speaker 3>history books, they got rid of that and they built
<v Speaker 3>a big, huge bridge both ways, right, like two three
<v Speaker 3>lanes both ways or no, it was one bridge. I'm
<v Speaker 3>getting a mixed step. But anyway, So one day we're
<v Speaker 3>driving to work. We got work on the west side,
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, I'm from for whatever reason,
<v Speaker 3>my head just kind of looked left. I don't know why.
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of this weird thing. I had no reason
<v Speaker 3>to look left into the water, but my head just
<v Speaker 3>kind of turning went what is that? And what I saw, well,
<v Speaker 3>I believe I saw the og poga, but what I
<v Speaker 3>saw was what looked like the size of a you know,
<v Speaker 3>like a send me trailer truck, the trailer that they
<v Speaker 3>called behind like that something that big. It was all black,
<v Speaker 3>it had scales, and it came out of the water
<v Speaker 3>and it left its own wake. But what happened for me,
<v Speaker 3>and this is kind of what I corroborate with my
<v Speaker 3>mentor seeing the sasquat, I kind of went into shock,
<v Speaker 3>but way more shocked than I when I realized I
<v Speaker 3>saw the bagfoot, I went into shock that there's in
<v Speaker 3>my line of sight. I'm looking at a living dinosaur.
<v Speaker 3>But my brain is like processing the image is going
<v Speaker 3>into my right now, but my whole body's in denial,
<v Speaker 3>like my cognitive dissonance you would call it is just
<v Speaker 3>flipping out. And so for me, everything kind of went
<v Speaker 3>into black and white. I'm watching this thing and it
<v Speaker 3>was big enough to leave the wake of a boat,
<v Speaker 3>like a big boat, right, So what I blaeme is
<v Speaker 3>I was from my perspect I was looking at the
<v Speaker 3>back of it, you know, like the body I guess
<v Speaker 3>you would call it. And then I don't know if
<v Speaker 3>I had permission to use his name, but my employee,
<v Speaker 3>how to say, Jesse. Jesse started streaming and we talked
<v Speaker 3>about it years later, about eighteen seventeen years ago later,
<v Speaker 3>we actually met in Chiliac again. His family's from Chiliac,
<v Speaker 3>and he said he remembered more so the head and
<v Speaker 3>the neck, this long like undulating neck at the front
<v Speaker 3>of the body. But again I'm driving and stuff, and
<v Speaker 3>I tried to turn around go back, and yeah, it
<v Speaker 3>was the other two bridges instead of I can't remember
<v Speaker 3>how it was. He definitely had to leave the bridge
<v Speaker 3>stop make a U turn at the they had a
<v Speaker 3>little the U turn place, but again by Castle looma
<v Speaker 3>same area turn around, and by the time we came
<v Speaker 3>back it was gone. But I was trying to like
<v Speaker 3>concentrate on driving, was in shock, and he told me
<v Speaker 3>he was screaming, are you looking at as ready? And
<v Speaker 3>I didn't hear him scream for me. Everything went quiet,
<v Speaker 3>Everything went into slow motion in black and mine, and
<v Speaker 3>I was trying. I could not cope with what I
<v Speaker 3>was watching. So that was such an again an indelible
<v Speaker 3>thing that but again I had foreshadowing that I would
<v Speaker 3>see something. I prayed about it for the people I
<v Speaker 3>was associating with, we're having these encounters, you know, the
<v Speaker 3>kind of people praying with all the time, hander with
<v Speaker 3>all time. Just they were kind of wakened me to
<v Speaker 3>the supernatural side of Christianity, that there's like mysteries, and
<v Speaker 3>same thing with UFOs. You know, he'd seen some UFOs
<v Speaker 3>and I had a few things like that, but we
<v Speaker 3>should be interviewed in him. I actually did a little
<v Speaker 3>YouTube video on him because he's had some crazy stuff
<v Speaker 3>happen but that was mostly of that was but even
<v Speaker 3>just I can remember like yesterday, like you, there's no
<v Speaker 3>way to like, if people listen to these stories about
<v Speaker 3>sasquashes and cryptids and stuff, they will just because they
<v Speaker 3>don't have they don't have they're in their reasoning part
<v Speaker 3>of their mind, they don't know, like in my opinion,
<v Speaker 3>they don't there's no grid for it because so you're
<v Speaker 3>gonna explain it away, right, And that's kind of a
<v Speaker 3>perspective with the Oga pogo in the Okanagan, there was
<v Speaker 3>a farmer and his son who farmed like peachland for
<v Speaker 3>like fifty years and they never seen it, and then
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden they've seen it and they're like,
<v Speaker 3>we didn't believe that, but it was. But then as
<v Speaker 3>far as corroboration, like everyone who sees it, know, everyone
<v Speaker 3>has the exact same story. If they believe in it,
<v Speaker 3>they don't believe in it that they heard about it.
<v Speaker 3>They haven't heard about it. It's all the same story.
<v Speaker 3>Like the neck ahead, I think I saw it another time,
<v Speaker 3>and but it was it was a lot more tame,
<v Speaker 3>you know, like I thought I saw something in the water,
<v Speaker 3>you know, And the same thing with uh we were
<v Speaker 3>out in do you know, you probably don't know BC
<v Speaker 3>it all, but we have like the west coast here
<v Speaker 3>there was a lake that it's famous for. The natives
<v Speaker 3>have done petroglyphs of their own og pogo, and we think,
<v Speaker 3>we think, we think we saw something out there one time,
<v Speaker 3>but it's because it's so far we it's hard to
<v Speaker 3>like really get the perspective. But what we saw was
<v Speaker 3>like right under our vehicle, like it came from under
<v Speaker 3>the bridge, submerged and then like and then had its
<v Speaker 3>own weight, and then he submerged for like resubmerged. I
<v Speaker 3>guess you'd call it. So anyway, that's most of my experiences.
<v Speaker 3>But now when I listened to Sasquatch chronicles and or
<v Speaker 3>read the book about the Okapoga, like compiling all the
<v Speaker 3>stories of the natives, that's what it is. It's like
<v Speaker 3>a sixty foot pleasosaurus. Like my mentor he drew a
<v Speaker 3>picture of it. He said it looked like a cow
<v Speaker 3>just grazing fish in the Okanagan. Didn't look violent, just
<v Speaker 3>looked like a huge pleasosaurus. So anyway, that's uh, probably
<v Speaker 3>thinking more if you asked me questions. But that was
<v Speaker 3>what was happening, and as far as having the brain
<v Speaker 3>injury and having I just never ran anxiety before. So
<v Speaker 3>I had to scroll YouTube and I started listening to
<v Speaker 3>all these people talk about the width of it, the
<v Speaker 3>height of it, the sounds that makes the streams. And
<v Speaker 3>that's why I connected with most is like before I
<v Speaker 3>never saw it, I heard this blood curling scream that
<v Speaker 3>was like a roar almost you know, I'm going, sorry,
<v Speaker 3>go back to the sasquatch here, but the roar of
<v Speaker 3>it was, you know, like there's there's no nothing to
<v Speaker 3>prepare you for that. There's nothing to prepare your reasoning
<v Speaker 3>part of your mind. So you have to accept that
<v Speaker 3>you've encountered something. And that's kind of what when we
<v Speaker 3>saw the sasquatch. That's what it was like. I went
<v Speaker 3>into shock. But then I think almost immediately I went,
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, that's what my daughter said. She said, Daddy,
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to see it tonight. I want to
<v Speaker 3>see it another time at a safe distance. So it
<v Speaker 3>was like a word for word answer to prayer, you know,
<v Speaker 3>like pray specifically, you know what I mean. So that
<v Speaker 3>was that's kind of our one of our family.
<v Speaker 1>Stories, you know, absolutely, So you feel like praying created
<v Speaker 1>space to encounter this creature.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the that's the faith miracle because and then
<v Speaker 3>it's like for me too personally. I know I was.
<v Speaker 3>I went through a whole faith journey where I was
<v Speaker 3>kind of basically against Christianity. I thought all hypocrites and
<v Speaker 3>but the cool. And then when people argue against faith
<v Speaker 3>or the supernatural, what they do is they make it
<v Speaker 3>sound like it it's lame. But my experience with God
<v Speaker 3>all this stuff is more not lame. It's like crazy.
<v Speaker 3>You know. It's the stuff that people really are excited
<v Speaker 3>about but they just don't know it. But God made.
<v Speaker 3>I believe God's the creator, you know, and the creator.
<v Speaker 3>That's something the Creator made, and you know it's you know,
<v Speaker 3>another scripture in the Bobs has asked me a thing
<v Speaker 3>to come concerning my sons. Can man you me the
<v Speaker 3>works of my hands? So there's an idea where we
<v Speaker 3>can ask God, show me your creation, you know. So
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if people connect with that or not,
<v Speaker 3>but it's that's what our experience was. It was like
<v Speaker 3>we had this hunger for mystery. We asked God about it,
<v Speaker 3>and I think there's actually more to come as I'm talking,
<v Speaker 3>I'm feeling that's the truth, Like there's you know, it's
<v Speaker 3>it's the glory of the Lord to conceal a matter.
<v Speaker 3>It's the glory of kings to find it out, to
<v Speaker 3>look figure this mystery out, and this and now because
<v Speaker 3>of the Internet, everybody and their dog are coming forward,
<v Speaker 3>especially the loggers in the seventies and the sixties, and
<v Speaker 3>they're telling their stories. So now we have like corroborating evidence.
<v Speaker 3>And if you don't want to believe, I'm not. I'm
<v Speaker 3>just not my job to make you believe. But I
<v Speaker 3>know what I happen to be right, So I love it.
<v Speaker 3>I love talking about it, and I love watching all
<v Speaker 3>those videos because that was like helping me get over
<v Speaker 3>my car accident. But just hearing all these people say
<v Speaker 3>the same thing over and over and over, then you
<v Speaker 3>think you're not crazy or you're just you know what
<v Speaker 3>I mean. Like I went from never encountering it never.
<v Speaker 3>I think I saw the Patty film when I was
<v Speaker 3>a kid. So like we're in the Pacific Northwest, and
<v Speaker 3>that's this is where I believe now from everything I've heard,
<v Speaker 3>we have like instances of the Sasquatch in the eighteen
<v Speaker 3>hundreds in Mission BC and all that, like in the
<v Speaker 3>scene area where I saw them, so I think we'd's
<v Speaker 3>kind of the and then but then they had the
<v Speaker 3>Patty film like in Northern California. But it's sort of
<v Speaker 3>like the myth when became real for me, No, d.
<v Speaker 1>It's like one job put ecosystem there from British Columbia
<v Speaker 1>to the Pacific Northwest. And now I'm glad you mentioned
<v Speaker 1>the part about praying to God to see one of
<v Speaker 1>these things. I feel like if you would have left
<v Speaker 1>that detail out, you wouldn't have been completely honest with
<v Speaker 1>yourself and you'd just be bending towards trying to please
<v Speaker 1>other people. And that's that's what happened. And you can't
<v Speaker 1>deny asking God to see this, and then you ended
<v Speaker 1>up seeing the Sasquatch and the Ogo Pogo, and I
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like that's coincidence. I feel like it's definitely
<v Speaker 1>tied in and it'd be something that people would have
<v Speaker 1>to experience for themselves to fully understand.
<v Speaker 3>Well, you want me, Can I tell you how I
<v Speaker 3>tie all that together?
<v Speaker 1>That absolutely, let's hear about it.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, for me, we have another miracle that happened to
<v Speaker 3>us for fourteen years in a row where I was
<v Speaker 3>kind of like, I had a car accident accent on
<v Speaker 3>the farm, so I was all was struggling with my house,
<v Speaker 3>struggling with money. But we're grain farmers from Saskatchewan. And
<v Speaker 3>I moved to b C because my wife partner at
<v Speaker 3>the time on the move to b C and all this,
<v Speaker 3>so I was in a different world trying to make
<v Speaker 3>a living. And then we got separated and I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>you know, and I had another car accident. I never
<v Speaker 3>had any money, but every fall of August long weekend,
<v Speaker 3>we would be on this extensive surf trip and something
<v Speaker 3>would happen someone filming and say, oh to me, give
<v Speaker 3>me three grand. One guy gave me sixty six grand.
<v Speaker 3>There's always some supernatural miracle around surfing. And who knew
<v Speaker 3>that a grain farmer from Saskatchewan would love the surf culture.
<v Speaker 3>And we have surfwaves in Canada and we would go
<v Speaker 3>and we would have a supernatural miracle. So I think
<v Speaker 3>there's something in the heart of man. God puts it
<v Speaker 3>says in the Bible, if you delight in the Lord,
<v Speaker 3>he will give you the desire of your heart. And
<v Speaker 3>the word desire in Greek means of the Father. So
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know I wanted to see mysteries. But
<v Speaker 3>God knew, and so he puts the prayer in your mouth.
<v Speaker 3>Even I think, because that's what happened to my mentor
<v Speaker 3>at the time, he is like, he didn't tell anybody.
<v Speaker 3>He just had this desire, like I want to see
<v Speaker 3>I want to know about the weird stuff, the mysteries
<v Speaker 3>of the world. He actually found a book that can
<v Speaker 3>prove that there were Macedons in the seventeen hundreds, that
<v Speaker 3>the first Nations people in sixteen seventeen hundreds had Macedons.
<v Speaker 3>That's like the bigger that's bigger than a mammoth, right,
<v Speaker 3>So it's just he had a desire for mystery. I
<v Speaker 3>didn't even know I had a desire for mystery. I
<v Speaker 3>didn't know I would be falling over a surfing but
<v Speaker 3>God knew, and he provided for it, and we discovered waves.
<v Speaker 3>We actually were with him and his family. We went
<v Speaker 3>to Patina Bay, which is in Banfield, just to go
<v Speaker 3>do some sea kayaking, and we thought, well, we'll go
<v Speaker 3>to Tatno to see these things. But we found surf
<v Speaker 3>waves and we started becoming a surfing family. Like a
<v Speaker 3>surf trips. You know, my daughter surf internationally sometimes, you know.
<v Speaker 3>And but what I want to say about that was
<v Speaker 3>that she saw a film. They made a film, an
<v Speaker 3>independent filmmaker in Penticton made a film about how this
<v Speaker 3>single mom wanted to take her daughter surfing into Phena.
<v Speaker 3>It's really expensive enough to get away from Colonna, pay ferries, hotels,
<v Speaker 3>surf lessons and surfboards. Its usually a big venture. Now
<v Speaker 3>it's even more to go to our surf capital in Canada. Here. Anyway,
<v Speaker 3>that she cried the whole time because she said, that's
<v Speaker 3>our story. Because in the movie the Space out of Penticton,
<v Speaker 3>which is sort of the Okanagan Valley where we're from
<v Speaker 3>in Klowna, she was like watching her life. So she
<v Speaker 3>told me in the day she was with her boyfriend.
<v Speaker 3>She cried for two hours. She said, that's our story.
<v Speaker 3>God took us surfing, and I've been surfing and now
<v Speaker 3>internationally as well. Supernaturally, I was in Nicaragua, had problems
<v Speaker 3>with my passport, I was detained, and my pastor Nicaragua
<v Speaker 3>was a gangster. He was in the conscious and now
<v Speaker 3>he's a reformed Christian and started an orphanage in the hospital,
<v Speaker 3>and he took me surfing, took me out of jail
<v Speaker 3>and took me surfing. Just all these supernatural things about
<v Speaker 3>our desires, you know, asking God for and I didn't
<v Speaker 3>know they were my desires. So I put that in
<v Speaker 3>my heart. The word desire means of the Father, you know,
<v Speaker 3>so Jad can give you your heart's desire if you ask.
<v Speaker 3>And some of that's like, you know, I can tell
<v Speaker 3>you some more stories of women in my story. Stuff
<v Speaker 3>he's seen, you know, but I had to hear it
<v Speaker 3>face times, by hearing him, by the word of God,
<v Speaker 3>I had to hear it was possible, I think, and
<v Speaker 3>that he kind of helped me that way, and then
<v Speaker 3>he encountered it, and then we encountered it. And now
<v Speaker 3>you know, we have a story, we have a testimony
<v Speaker 3>that we can share. It's worthy enough to tell people.
<v Speaker 3>And then so everybody in at plus with YouTube and drones,
<v Speaker 3>you know, harder to hide the sasquats these days. And
<v Speaker 3>I still can't get enough of us still. And now
<v Speaker 3>there's this thing with the dog lad which terrifies me.
<v Speaker 3>But I believe it, you know, because I have I
<v Speaker 3>have a bit of a testimony so I can kind
<v Speaker 3>of I can, you know, I can suspend disbelief to
<v Speaker 3>believe in the dog Man, you know, like I hope
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't come around here. That sounds terrifying.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure. Oh go ahead.
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I want to tell you something about art
<v Speaker 3>where we live up here. We're in the northernmost part
<v Speaker 3>of the Venture Round and if you want to go
<v Speaker 3>up Ireland you have to take a ferry. And we
<v Speaker 3>have a place called Kingcome Inlet where it's a small
<v Speaker 3>First Nation's village. And I interviewed some members of kingcome
<v Speaker 3>Inlet because I used to work for a hostel and
<v Speaker 3>a hotel that would everyone would come to the hotel
<v Speaker 3>when they're coming out of Kingcome because they come here
<v Speaker 3>to buy groceries. We have the largest grocery store in
<v Speaker 3>this area of the world, you know, in British Columby.
<v Speaker 3>We have the biggest save on more foods than make
<v Speaker 3>a million bucks a month I think, or something like that,
<v Speaker 3>just selling food to the natives. So everyone comes on
<v Speaker 3>the ferry. And I started interviewing these guys and they
<v Speaker 3>don't talk about the Sasquatch like a miss. They go
<v Speaker 3>we've all seen him. He lives in town. He comes
<v Speaker 3>into town. He doesn't hurt anybody, but they and so
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to interview these guys on camera, but they wouldn't.
<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't even don't I think that maybe I have
<v Speaker 3>a voicemament with them talking about Sasquatch, But it's like
<v Speaker 3>it's real or they're real. Up here in Bella Bella,
<v Speaker 3>they have them. They call them the Old Man of
<v Speaker 3>the Woods or the Old Woman in the woods. There's
<v Speaker 3>another there's a where Guaca. We're from, the Guacola people,
<v Speaker 3>the first nations up here, and the Quasi people, and
<v Speaker 3>they have a name from I can't remember what they
<v Speaker 3>call him, but like everyone knows, you know what I mean,
<v Speaker 3>Like like not everybody, but you know, the natives know.
<v Speaker 3>So that's I just thought that was cool because like
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of for a little while, I was
<v Speaker 3>like I was the only one to saw him. And
<v Speaker 3>then he start interviewing the first Nations from up coast
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, oh, yeah, we've all seen them, and
<v Speaker 3>we have There's a guy, what's the Sasquatch guy called
<v Speaker 3>on YouTube that does survivor man. He came to Alert Bay,
<v Speaker 3>which is yeah, he came to I saw one of
<v Speaker 3>the things where he came up here. He went to
<v Speaker 3>Alert Bay, which is the island uh oh, it's like
<v Speaker 3>a boat ferry ride away from us. And they've been
<v Speaker 3>saying they've been hearing him. The sasquatch has been making
<v Speaker 3>noise in the woods. So I don't know how many
<v Speaker 3>people seen him, but this pretty much he's sort of
<v Speaker 3>like causing nuisances, you know. So that's something that's come
<v Speaker 3>up lately. I met a kid the other day that
<v Speaker 3>said he he saw him up just up above the
<v Speaker 3>town here, the sasquatch. So I can't. I can't. Those
<v Speaker 3>are their stories. I can't corroborate them, but it kind
<v Speaker 3>of gives me more license to, like, I get more
<v Speaker 3>excited talking about it. I don't know, and I don't
<v Speaker 3>know why. I'm still kind of obsessed with sasquatch. Because
<v Speaker 3>I was going to go to church and I said,
<v Speaker 3>I'll talk to you another time about one. You start
<v Speaker 3>talking about I get excited, you know, because it's a mystery.
<v Speaker 3>It's exciting, yeah, you know, and all the people that
<v Speaker 3>line up, you know, people line up to see Marvel movies. Right,
<v Speaker 3>that's another revelation I had everyone and their dog. When
<v Speaker 3>Ironman came out, they line up around the block to
<v Speaker 3>see these But every all those stories are in the Bible.
<v Speaker 3>There's flying people and you know, you know the prophets
<v Speaker 3>the Bible, Jesus will walk through crowds and you know
<v Speaker 3>was transported, you know, immediately was ashore in the boat,
<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff is Again that's what I said earlier.
<v Speaker 3>People make spirituality about to be lame and pious, but
<v Speaker 3>it's actually exciting. You know, it's cool. You know, I've
<v Speaker 3>had my own journey with all that stuff too that
<v Speaker 3>we don't have to get into. But like I'm basically
<v Speaker 3>went from normally two believer and then they got it's
<v Speaker 3>getting cooler. Especially supernatural search trips don't hurt either.
<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, I can definitely sets.
<v Speaker 1>Have pushed you towards believing in God even more, and
<v Speaker 1>it did the same with me. I've spoken with other
<v Speaker 1>people in the past that I have seen crypto creatures, and
<v Speaker 1>I asked them, like, how has this changed your view,
<v Speaker 1>like your faith and like your belief in God? And
<v Speaker 1>some people said, honestly, it makes me believe less than God.
<v Speaker 1>To me, that blows my mind. But I guess I
<v Speaker 1>can understand where they're coming from with the natheist point
<v Speaker 1>of view. But yeah, for me, it definitely strengthened strengthen
<v Speaker 1>my faith with God because it talks about there were
<v Speaker 1>giants in those days. And if you think, like man
<v Speaker 1>there were dinosaurs, there really were giant people and human
<v Speaker 1>animal hybrids, like it makes sense to me, but for
<v Speaker 1>the next person it doesn't.
<v Speaker 3>Well, as far as the cryptics go, the Bible talks
<v Speaker 3>there was a he wasn't all I don't know what
<v Speaker 3>is he called the creation scientists. He was he was
<v Speaker 3>reading the Book of Job. And if you described the
<v Speaker 3>behemoths and the Book of Job, it's a Trnosaurus rex
<v Speaker 3>like it talks about it says fire comes out of
<v Speaker 3>his mouth, his scales areing it together. You don't want
<v Speaker 3>to draw that guy that was a hook, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it's just just describing a dinosaur. You know, if you
<v Speaker 3>look into it so like it's even just in this history,
<v Speaker 3>like there's there's dragons all over the the British world
<v Speaker 3>and then the Chin these worlds, well they're never they're
<v Speaker 3>never made it to be mythical, you know, they're this
<v Speaker 3>part of their history. Same with mermaids. That's another fascinating thing.
<v Speaker 3>Do you know that Captain Cook or either Captain Cook
<v Speaker 3>or Columbus, you can't it's illegal to make a false
<v Speaker 3>claim in Captain's log And they talked about mermaids, you know,
<v Speaker 3>and in the in in Africa they say mermaids are
<v Speaker 3>demonic and there's the whole spiritual world that has has
<v Speaker 3>tried to do with the water. You know. That's I
<v Speaker 3>don't know a lot about that, but that's kind of
<v Speaker 3>come on my radar too. That you know, this is
<v Speaker 3>like the highbrids in the Bible, and you know, it
<v Speaker 3>says they're giants in the land, but it isn't the
<v Speaker 3>Book of Jude that these these these angels are these
<v Speaker 3>they have left their former estate, they left the heavenly realm,
<v Speaker 3>and they says they went after strange flesh. And I
<v Speaker 3>think in Isaiah talks about monitors or the talks about
<v Speaker 3>when you have half here half human centaurs. Yeah, they
<v Speaker 3>talks about it in the Book of Isaiah in the Bible.
<v Speaker 3>So it's in the Bible. Is basically if you might
<v Speaker 3>not ascribe to befoming Jesus, but the Bible is the
<v Speaker 3>biggest archaeological book we have to you can confirm every
<v Speaker 3>you know, prehistoric site in the world. There's more evidence
<v Speaker 3>in the Bible archaeologically than anything to confirm what we
<v Speaker 3>see now, you know, you know and like Tampa where
<v Speaker 3>they like in Peru where they have like and the pyramids,
<v Speaker 3>and you know, all that stuff that the mysteries that
<v Speaker 3>people are looking for. I saw Joe Rogan say something
<v Speaker 3>the other day. They hit a guy on there that
<v Speaker 3>they couldn't explain all the massive sand dunes and the Sahara,
<v Speaker 3>And finally someone just woke up and said, that's when
<v Speaker 3>the tide pulls back. That's what you get left every day,
<v Speaker 3>when the tide pulls back and it's ripples in the sand.
<v Speaker 3>There was a flood. But because atheism and the new science,
<v Speaker 3>the new religion is science, they never want to give
<v Speaker 3>credit to the Biblical narratives, so they miss half of it,
<v Speaker 3>or or worse, the Smithsonian throws the giant bones in
<v Speaker 3>the in the water, you know, because they don't want
<v Speaker 3>anything to prove the Biblical narrative. Right. There's there's a
<v Speaker 3>really cool guy named Jonathan Gray. He says, there's sixty
<v Speaker 3>there's sixty technologies and in antiquity that we can't reproduce
<v Speaker 3>like veniable glass. And and he says, at least he
<v Speaker 3>had a whole new scientific study called forbidden archeology, because
<v Speaker 3>no one will look at it because the narrative is
<v Speaker 3>we were cavemen and we're stupider back then or more stupid,
<v Speaker 3>you know, But it's actually the opposite. He says that
<v Speaker 3>the technology is greater, so the time between the flood,
<v Speaker 3>or between Adam and the flood is actually longer than now.
<v Speaker 3>So like in before there was airplanes. Before the White Brothers,
<v Speaker 3>they find a fully working glider in the Egyptian tombs.
<v Speaker 3>So they throw in a box and say, oh, that's
<v Speaker 3>a cult object, that's a religious object. We don't know
<v Speaker 3>if that is. But there's the Bible says it's there's
<v Speaker 3>nothing new under the sun, right, So there's actually helicopter
<v Speaker 3>in the in the hieroglyphics, there's pictures of helicopters, Like
<v Speaker 3>what is that? Because there's more technology back then than
<v Speaker 3>there is now. It just gets lost with time, you know,
<v Speaker 3>the flood destroyed things and start over. I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>I just love all the mystery of it, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely.
<v Speaker 3>Asked questions.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the cryptids are creatures from the old world. That's
<v Speaker 1>my theory and many other people's theories as well. And
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's connected with the giants, the naphylom
<v Speaker 1>and the ancient world before the flood.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a guy who's the creation theorious guys that
<v Speaker 3>says all dinosaurs came from the Nphylon because you don't
<v Speaker 3>have like like so it says there there were, they
<v Speaker 3>were the men of renowned, they were there. They were
<v Speaker 3>giants from the land at that time and after that.
<v Speaker 3>That's what it says in Genesis, right, So, like so
<v Speaker 3>he believes that, like giants are recorded a pretty six
<v Speaker 3>feet call, you know, and that would explain how they
<v Speaker 3>have we're strong enough to make the pyramids and YadA, YadA.
<v Speaker 3>But like he believes that because in the Book of Jude,
<v Speaker 3>which quotes is like eleven sentences from the Book of Enoch,
<v Speaker 3>which talks more about the giants and all that stuff
<v Speaker 3>and the angels that go out of it came to
<v Speaker 3>earth and had sex with the women that they made giants, right,
<v Speaker 3>so why didn't they do that to animals? That's what
<v Speaker 3>it means. They went after strange flesh, so they he
<v Speaker 3>believes that all the all the huge dinosaurs were from
<v Speaker 3>from the nepl I mean, that's kind of a stretch,
<v Speaker 3>but it's cool to just think about it because if
<v Speaker 3>you just think in your rational mind, there's not a
<v Speaker 3>lot of explanation for this stuff. But if you add
<v Speaker 3>it to the Bible, you added to you know, there's
<v Speaker 3>nothing that's impossible for those who believe. It's just cool,
<v Speaker 3>you know. I love hearing the different perspectives, but I
<v Speaker 3>believe the Biblical narrative right and the Biblical record, so
<v Speaker 3>it makes way more sense to me. Like it's just
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's uh, there's up on the island here
<v Speaker 3>we have something called the cadborosaurus, which is like a
<v Speaker 3>they called that like a sea surfence. You know. They
<v Speaker 3>saw one in Victoria in eighteen hundreds and they had
<v Speaker 3>one for a while. They have one at a marine museum.
<v Speaker 3>You know. There was once another cool thing I remembered
<v Speaker 3>here in a few years back. They've had a stone
<v Speaker 3>on or something ten times the size of the blue
<v Speaker 3>whale come out of the Mariana Trench. You know. So
<v Speaker 3>there is and then the congo. They have records of
<v Speaker 3>congo and in Mission BC they've had sightings of pterodactyls.
<v Speaker 3>Like there's a guy who went to the Congo. He
<v Speaker 3>saw like he saw like a huge dinosaur just walked
<v Speaker 3>across his path. And they're like, what's that, agal, That's
<v Speaker 3>something we have in the swamp and the congo. There's
<v Speaker 3>a swamp the size of New York City, the sides
<v Speaker 3>of Brooklyn that no one can even wait into. You
<v Speaker 3>point to the you point to the book and say,
<v Speaker 3>do we have this. Yeah, we have tiger, Yeah we
<v Speaker 3>have lione. Yeah we have that dinosaur. You know. So
<v Speaker 3>then the distry continues. Uh, there's a guy on Joe
<v Speaker 3>Rogan too, he said he went looking for the Malachi Membe.
<v Speaker 3>That's the one in the Congo that the missionaries talk
<v Speaker 3>about that they've seen for the conganies. People talk about
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's incredible stuff. Yeah, and it's amazing that you
<v Speaker 1>heard the vocalization. Would you compare it to like a
<v Speaker 1>t rex offt Jurassic Park or like a lion in Africa?
<v Speaker 2>What would you say? It sounded?
<v Speaker 3>The closest thing was I was in. I was in
<v Speaker 3>I went to uh in the missions trip to stop
<v Speaker 3>sex trafficking in uh In, Cambodia, and then we went
<v Speaker 3>over later to just have a little vacation in Thailand
<v Speaker 3>and to do sort of the same thing in Thailand,
<v Speaker 3>and we got it. Uh, we got someone bought us
<v Speaker 3>safari to go wash elephants, like in the middle of
<v Speaker 3>a nowhere in Thailand. And when an elephant screams like
<v Speaker 3>it really well, it's not like it is in the movies.
<v Speaker 3>It's like a lion. Wrong, It's it's high pitched and
<v Speaker 3>it's loud, and it has a relation to it. I
<v Speaker 3>remember this thing, I mean so long ago, but I
<v Speaker 3>remember it being like a scream growl, like a monster,
<v Speaker 3>like a roaring monster. Yeah, but there was nothing but
<v Speaker 3>your brain, irrational brain goes, Okay, no, it's not a cougar,
<v Speaker 3>and that's not that's not a wolf. But you know
<v Speaker 3>it's it's you know, it's physical. You know it's it's
<v Speaker 3>from an organic source and it's at the time monster,
<v Speaker 3>you know. I would say, like the elephant was the
<v Speaker 3>closest thing, but it was terrible. But the elephant is
<v Speaker 3>it was terrifying. But this was like inhuman you know
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Like it didn't have a natural element.
<v Speaker 3>It was like a monster. Yeah, I don't know if
<v Speaker 3>I'm making any.
<v Speaker 1>Sense now, Like you spring multiple times, and that was
<v Speaker 1>my first thought, like a monster, and yet I could
<v Speaker 1>see how it sounded like an elephant, and yeah, what
<v Speaker 1>I heard was just insane. How high off the ground
<v Speaker 1>was the scream? Like was it ground level or did
<v Speaker 1>you notice? It was like nine twelve.
<v Speaker 3>Feet the scream? H Oh, I don't know if I
<v Speaker 3>could cross. I know, no was ere asking that question
<v Speaker 3>for me. It was more like I would say it reverberated.
<v Speaker 3>I think it was quite far away, but not so
<v Speaker 3>far away, like it was enough to make me think
<v Speaker 3>where I got to take these girls to my truck.
<v Speaker 3>You know, I got to get we gotta get out
<v Speaker 3>of here. So we were start walking faster. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to learn them. I think I think
<v Speaker 3>they might say, Daddy, what's that? But it was so
<v Speaker 3>long ago, I can't be honestly tell you, but I
<v Speaker 3>remember the feeling of it, like, let's get out of here. Like, so,
<v Speaker 3>you know, I didn't think to ask those questions, But
<v Speaker 3>now I think it It was close enough that it
<v Speaker 3>was a threat, and it was loud enough that it
<v Speaker 3>was like observable and enough to make make me be afraid.
<v Speaker 3>Of it, right, I can't tell you. It was just
<v Speaker 3>it was nearby, but it wasn't like it was terrifying,
<v Speaker 3>but it was. It was more confusing to me than
<v Speaker 3>anything at the time, Like I was like, okay, okay,
<v Speaker 3>we're going. And then it was pissed off that.
<v Speaker 4>They made this kind of pissed that they made this
<v Speaker 4>park so far away. You know what I'm saying, like,
<v Speaker 4>oh God, why we you know, I know, I know,
<v Speaker 4>I know the theory, but you know, they don't.
<v Speaker 3>Want the smoke fumes from the from the exhaust to
<v Speaker 3>get in the way of the telescope. I'm like, crap,
<v Speaker 3>that's what I remember thinking, Let's get out of here.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, where you saw that creature that you thought
<v Speaker 1>was a black bear was the same area where your
<v Speaker 1>Christian mentor had his siding.
<v Speaker 2>Is that correct?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, on the on the Hope River, which is
<v Speaker 3>so what do you do is you go coloon I
<v Speaker 3>merrit Hope Mission and then the highway splits from from
<v Speaker 3>from Hope you can go to the right. Let's see,
<v Speaker 3>you're going towards Vancouver. To the right, I guess it
<v Speaker 3>would be the north. You have another Highway seven which
<v Speaker 3>goes to the Gasy and Harrison, which is where the
<v Speaker 3>birthplace of the subs squats right, or you can keep
<v Speaker 3>going up the main highway and go to Chiliwac. So
<v Speaker 3>I was on this on the I was on to
<v Speaker 3>the left of that. I was on to the south
<v Speaker 3>of the Hope River, and he was right on the
<v Speaker 3>Hope River. So like after Hope, you just have if
<v Speaker 3>you can either just we call it the Cocahalla. So
<v Speaker 3>he saw it coming out of Hope right on the
<v Speaker 3>river bed, like he was right there. He drove right
<v Speaker 3>by it. So, you know, maybe like twenty fifteen miles
<v Speaker 3>away from where I saw it, but basically the same
<v Speaker 3>area the Hope Mission areas were. I can't think of
<v Speaker 3>anymore Southwark excitings, but I don't really know, but that's
<v Speaker 3>the area we thought.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and could you make out any features on the creature?
<v Speaker 1>I know you said it was like a jet black color.
<v Speaker 2>Of dark black.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I I guess I was confused. My, my, my.
<v Speaker 3>As we're talking now, what I'm remembering was confusion because
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was big enough. Yes again, I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 3>It was a really long time ago, but it was
<v Speaker 3>like it had it had bulk I remember that, and
<v Speaker 3>it had like it was in perspective wise is more
<v Speaker 3>how I understand it, because to see something that big
<v Speaker 3>that far away I just saw. I saw it was
<v Speaker 3>a guy walking around. But now when I saw the
<v Speaker 3>fishing derby, like he was probably ten feet like eight
<v Speaker 3>to ten feet tall, like he was really big in
<v Speaker 3>that perspective, you know, at the time, I was confused.
<v Speaker 3>I thought that's a BlackBerry. Then I think, in my
<v Speaker 3>met rational mind had to explain a way why black
<v Speaker 3>bear is getting up and walking like that, you know,
<v Speaker 3>so in and and then he was probably a I
<v Speaker 3>guess the sasquat was was crouching when I saw him,
<v Speaker 3>and when I looked again, he was walking. And then
<v Speaker 3>and then Sydney, my Sydney my, my twelve year old,
<v Speaker 3>thirteen year old probably was watching him. She might have
<v Speaker 3>even been younger than that. She was watching him the
<v Speaker 3>whole time, so she was observing more than me. We
<v Speaker 3>could call her. I don't know if she remembers. She's
<v Speaker 3>a little girl, but but that was what my recollection
<v Speaker 3>as an adult of what was going on. It was like, oh, oh,
<v Speaker 3>that's a sasquatch, you know, and then started going into shock.
<v Speaker 3>And then I remembered the prayer, the request to God.
<v Speaker 3>It was like perfectly answered. So it was all kind
<v Speaker 3>of supernatural. And me it was like a full circle.
<v Speaker 3>It like a six three years forgot to answer that prayer.
<v Speaker 3>But it was it wasn't that night, and it was
<v Speaker 3>at a safe distance. We were safely in our vehicles
<v Speaker 3>and we could observe him. So I hope that answers
<v Speaker 3>your question. But it's not too vague, but that's what
<v Speaker 3>it was, like, Yeah, it was. And then also also
<v Speaker 3>when I like if one of the greatest uh sasquatch
<v Speaker 3>I heard was was when they say, like how wide
<v Speaker 3>it was? There was a skeptics that had saw taskquatching
<v Speaker 3>the Alaskan fishing trip or a survey trip, and if
<v Speaker 3>you Frank can signed a few of those together like
<v Speaker 3>that they're five feet across. So I'm now remembering now
<v Speaker 3>talking to you, the bulk of it was. You know that,
<v Speaker 3>I remember the bulk of it, And that's why I
<v Speaker 3>think even we were able to see it so clearly
<v Speaker 3>because it was so big from that far away. You know,
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'll do is next time I'm driving.
<v Speaker 3>When I'm driving, I was called Colonna my home, even
<v Speaker 3>though I'm on the island for thirteen years. When I'm
<v Speaker 3>driving home, I'm going to stop and look and try
<v Speaker 3>to like gauge how far that thing is, how far
<v Speaker 3>it was away, or if anyone's on you know, was
<v Speaker 3>doing it doing the surfing derby, you can compare it.
<v Speaker 3>But another thing is I remember too, is like the
<v Speaker 3>natives there, I remember hearing this is like this is
<v Speaker 3>pret days, right, there was tree knocks, like the natives
<v Speaker 3>or my friend would talk about tree knocks, and the
<v Speaker 3>natives would say that they're signaling each other. And that's
<v Speaker 3>come up quite a bit on the internet now that
<v Speaker 3>they will bang on trees. So that was one thing
<v Speaker 3>I knew about when we were camping up there. That's
<v Speaker 3>where they would report the tree knocks. Mostly the natives
<v Speaker 3>would talk about it. And this is third again, third
<v Speaker 3>hand information, because my mentor was super interurid heat are
<v Speaker 3>saying the outspots and so he would kind of fine
<v Speaker 3>to the seed, but he would he would go talk
<v Speaker 3>to the firstations people about it. Right, He's almost like
<v Speaker 3>he was walking internet. You should, I'll give you.
<v Speaker 1>His numbers, should call him, Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>You would. You would get a good story if he's
<v Speaker 3>he's pretty eccentric. I don't know if he'd pick up
<v Speaker 3>his home, but he is. He has his he has
<v Speaker 3>like like he was closer to the I think I
<v Speaker 3>was at the same justin from yoga pogo. But he
<v Speaker 3>saw he saw the head. He said, it was like
<v Speaker 3>the head itself was like eight feet long or seven
<v Speaker 3>feet long. It was huge, just like a horse's head.
<v Speaker 3>Just came up and looked at him. His eye. He
<v Speaker 3>could see he was turned sideways in his eye. He said.
<v Speaker 3>His eye just looked at him and then went back down.
<v Speaker 3>You know, you should call him. He's a storyteller too,
<v Speaker 3>like everything. We actually made fun of him because everything
<v Speaker 3>he tells you sounds like a horror movie. Like I
<v Speaker 3>would tell some god's story to my kids and be like, oh, yeah, whatever, Dad.
<v Speaker 3>He tells the story, you're like, oh, get the popcorn.
<v Speaker 3>I went to the grocery store and there was no milk.
<v Speaker 3>It's the devil. You know, it's pretty dramatic.
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, that'd be cool to talk with him
<v Speaker 1>and they hear his encounters and the information that he's
<v Speaker 1>learned from the First Nations people.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like he was kind of excyclopedia for that there's
<v Speaker 3>a book too, if you can find it. It's Canadian
<v Speaker 3>Cryptis or something like that, and it has a whole
<v Speaker 3>bunch of stuff that we have up here, including the Mask.
<v Speaker 3>The one the most memorable was the Master and ghost
<v Speaker 3>stories and like, uh, for some reason, I'm not remembering
<v Speaker 3>the lake. It's on the way to the Pino on
<v Speaker 3>the west coast where they actually have petriplus of a
<v Speaker 3>sea monster that lives in the lake there. And I
<v Speaker 3>think we saw it, we saw something there. I don't,
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to tell. Like you know, like people think
<v Speaker 3>they see the Oga Polo when there's a rogue wave
<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the water for no reason, Like
<v Speaker 3>we don't have much of a tide system, you know, recurrence.
<v Speaker 3>That's what we kind of say something like that too.
<v Speaker 3>But that's all our The history of BC is pretty crazy.
<v Speaker 3>Another one, there's a book from a lady Pentiction who
<v Speaker 3>compiled all the native stories and she has a book
<v Speaker 3>of Actually and I'll tell you this, this might be something
<v Speaker 3>cool if you, I guess you have American listeners here too.
<v Speaker 3>We actually have the tourism British Columbia will give you
<v Speaker 3>a million dollars if you have accurate celphones footage of
<v Speaker 3>the Okapodo and someone's come forward right now, and so
<v Speaker 3>they have it, but they're holding on to it for
<v Speaker 3>some reason. But that was my whole too, is I'd
<v Speaker 3>guess make a million bucks film in this thing, you know,
<v Speaker 3>or the thought crossed my mind. Anyway, Yeah, I'm.
<v Speaker 2>Sure that was an amazing you've.
<v Speaker 3>Seen it, you see, you've heard it and seen it too.
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen Ogo Pogo, but I've seen sasquatch several times.
<v Speaker 1>And two of the times that I encountered them, one
<v Speaker 1>was a juvenile and another one kind of went through
<v Speaker 1>the woods and head behind a tree. But they both
<v Speaker 1>moved through the woods like chimpanzees on all fours when
<v Speaker 1>they're running through the jungle. And I thought it was
<v Speaker 1>a black bear, like like what you said, Like it
<v Speaker 1>just seemed like a black bear moving through the woods
<v Speaker 1>until it stood up, and it's just like that on
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a black bear.
<v Speaker 2>What the heck?
<v Speaker 3>Did you have the same experience? Were you went into shock? Oh?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Every time I encountered them, whether it's just an experience
<v Speaker 1>or I lay eyes on them, like, my mind just
<v Speaker 1>kind of goes blank and I don't know, it's almost
<v Speaker 1>like time slows down.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I had the time I had this slow motion
<v Speaker 3>effect with yoga pogo and I had the shock after
<v Speaker 3>I realized when the think stood up and the city
<v Speaker 3>because she's innocent. She's a little girl, right, She's like daddy,
<v Speaker 3>he has harol over his face. That's not a man,
<v Speaker 3>you know. Like, so that was That's that's the thing.
<v Speaker 3>I think. It's kind of like and I'm in the
<v Speaker 3>surf culture a little bit. I'm an obvious intermediate surfer,
<v Speaker 3>but you get away if you want a bigger wave, right,
<v Speaker 3>It's like then you're like once you're not afraid. We
<v Speaker 3>call it charging harder. So you want to see the
<v Speaker 3>sasquatch again? You don't, but you do, you know what
<v Speaker 3>I mean. Like, there's a weird thing with human nature
<v Speaker 3>where you kind of want to be afraid. You watch it.
<v Speaker 3>People watch scary movies because they liked the feeling of
<v Speaker 3>being afraid a little bit. And that's the I think
<v Speaker 3>that's the hunger of the mystery. Wanting to understand these
<v Speaker 3>mysteries is like, and that's I think a gift from God.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe even you know, it's a gift that we're born
<v Speaker 3>to figure this stuff out, and the need is to
<v Speaker 3>go and have dominion on the earth. You know, I
<v Speaker 3>can never get talked sick of talking about it. But
<v Speaker 3>I've heard people say they quit hunting over it. I've
<v Speaker 3>heard other people say, like what I said, I'd like
<v Speaker 3>to see it again, but at the safe distance. You know,
<v Speaker 3>other people saying, he doesn't get old, you know, like
<v Speaker 3>what you said, you've seen it more than once. He
<v Speaker 3>doesn't get old. Right, You're still encountering something. So do
<v Speaker 3>you think it's a Do you think it's a spiritual
<v Speaker 3>thing or a physical thing? For both?
<v Speaker 2>I think it's both. For sure.
<v Speaker 1>They're definitely physical creatures living out there undetected in the forest.
<v Speaker 1>But also they have supernatural abilities, and they're able to
<v Speaker 1>cloak or turn into orbs and kind of follow you
<v Speaker 1>from place to place.
<v Speaker 3>I know another thing that's fascinating here. We have orcus,
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, killer whales. We have like we
<v Speaker 3>have orchis. And the other day of my friend had
<v Speaker 3>a ten mile scope. I was doing a cold pine
<v Speaker 3>talking to me, Hey, hey, there's orcas out here. Look
<v Speaker 3>through my scope. He had like a ten thousand bars scope,
<v Speaker 3>so there's ten miles out there. At the base of
<v Speaker 3>the mountain. If you might look through there, you'll see
<v Speaker 3>a little you might see a fin right. I looked
<v Speaker 3>through this thing and they were right in front of me,
<v Speaker 3>and this huge head came up. They breached. It was
<v Speaker 3>the most incredible thing. The dorsalona on I think they're
<v Speaker 3>called transitory orcas is seven feet tall. They're massive. They're incredible, right,
<v Speaker 3>So like it's just like it doesn't get old seeing.
<v Speaker 3>But the thing about the Sasquatch is you never hear
<v Speaker 3>a very very few times you hear about someone having
<v Speaker 3>you know, like actually dying or like, you know, that's
<v Speaker 3>about the same thing, orcus you never hear. But orc
<v Speaker 3>is killing anybody. They don't. They have all the power,
<v Speaker 3>they hunt great lights, but they don't hurt anybody. You know.
<v Speaker 3>It isn't that interesting, you know, But then someone I
<v Speaker 3>saw someone else. They took all the maps, they took
<v Speaker 3>all the red dots of the missing people, and especially
<v Speaker 3>in the States, they could correlates on the Sasquad sightings.
<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of eerie. You know, we have a
<v Speaker 3>thing in Peachland. This is one of the stories about
<v Speaker 3>Oga Poga up here, not up here, but in Canada
<v Speaker 3>here where there was this guy he'd won that we
<v Speaker 3>have something called Peachfest. Peach line is he's near where
<v Speaker 3>I saw this. It's kind of going to the South
<v Speaker 3>Okanagan on the way to the US. We have something
<v Speaker 3>called peach Reft. And this guy has swim across the
<v Speaker 3>lake like ten times, right one it every year. He
<v Speaker 3>had a spotter and he this spatter lifted up his
<v Speaker 3>The spotter's the guy on the boat watching the swimmer.
<v Speaker 3>He lifted up his hand for one second to light cigarette.
<v Speaker 3>He brought it down and the guy was gone. And
<v Speaker 3>the guy was standing in five feet of water. And
<v Speaker 3>they dragged, they dragged. This is a Oga Pola story.
<v Speaker 3>They dragged the lake. They never found the body. He
<v Speaker 3>was right in front of the guy. So what do
<v Speaker 3>you think of that? You know? Yeh, that's like you know,
<v Speaker 3>And then you hear the odd thing about the aggressive Sasquatch.
<v Speaker 3>Well people you know hearing like, I mean, I don't
<v Speaker 3>know if we're getting into the weeds here, but I
<v Speaker 3>heard that this sort of revivor man and some other
<v Speaker 3>people say they've heard this mind speak, you know, where
<v Speaker 3>the sas says, hey, get out of here, I'll kill
<v Speaker 3>you that kind of thing. Yeah, you know, so you
<v Speaker 3>I hear things like that, aggression like that, But like
<v Speaker 3>the one up here in kingcome like everyone knows him,
<v Speaker 3>like he's living in the village. Like he comes into
<v Speaker 3>the village and stands in the middle of the village
<v Speaker 3>at night and then look at him. So he has
<v Speaker 3>probably the muscle to just kill everybody in your sight,
<v Speaker 3>but he doesn't. So I kind of intrigued by that
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, you know, like why doesn't this thing
<v Speaker 3>like hassle us? And then that's another a native thing
<v Speaker 3>is like what they say to their kids is the
<v Speaker 3>grandparents say to their kids, just leave them alone. He'll
<v Speaker 3>leave you alone.
<v Speaker 2>Haven't heard find stories up there?
<v Speaker 3>One comes to mind, but it's not Saskatch. It's timbers.
<v Speaker 3>The timber wolves were so big they look up your waist.
<v Speaker 3>And one time they were impacts. So what fifty of
<v Speaker 3>them surrounded my friends while they're changing the tire, and
<v Speaker 3>they were mortified by that, Like it was like they
<v Speaker 3>were being hunted and they had their whole wheel went
<v Speaker 3>off and they had to fix it in the middle
<v Speaker 3>of the night, and there was like all these fifty
<v Speaker 3>eyes and these things are massive so that was sorry,
<v Speaker 3>that's a whole that's a little rabbit trail. But no,
<v Speaker 3>I haven't heard that. I'm just kind of like I'm saying,
<v Speaker 3>my perspective is sort of being reinforced through the dawn
<v Speaker 3>of the Internet, you know, like through the like the
<v Speaker 3>mass of it, the sounds of it, where they appear,
<v Speaker 3>where my friends saw it. That's all kind of corroborated,
<v Speaker 3>corroborating evidence from me. And and then like I think,
<v Speaker 3>like I think probably my theory is like the one
<v Speaker 3>on Alert Bay is is the island off the coast
<v Speaker 3>here off of our town. Is that it's obviously if
<v Speaker 3>you come here, it just makes noise, like it doesn't
<v Speaker 3>like you being there. That's kind of where I put
<v Speaker 3>it together for me, is that like just leave it alone.
<v Speaker 3>And if you don't leave it alone, it'll let you
<v Speaker 3>know it's not cool. You know. Yeah, as far as
<v Speaker 3>personal experience, that's that's about it. That's about it. Like
<v Speaker 3>I've heard but from the Internet, I've heard of people
<v Speaker 3>getting rocks thrown at them, killing dogs, things like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard some, but some horror stories, but for
<v Speaker 1>the most part, like you said, they seem to get
<v Speaker 1>territorial when someone occupies their space that they're currently right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I heard one in I heard. I've heard a
<v Speaker 3>few aggressive ones, but I can't I don't know because
<v Speaker 3>that's their story. But I'm going to tell you, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you something about BC that will give you
<v Speaker 3>a perspective of how big our woods are. When I
<v Speaker 3>as a kid, I used to do helicopter tree planting
<v Speaker 3>and helicopter forest tree and you could swade for an
<v Speaker 3>hour over a sea of trees and never see the bottom.
<v Speaker 3>And I remember one time I said to me, he says,
<v Speaker 3>there's areas here no one's native or white have ever
<v Speaker 3>been walked on. Like you have an ocean of forest
<v Speaker 3>from here to Alaska. Right, So that's a pretty big place.
<v Speaker 3>You know. You've heard about the side he was in Alaska.
<v Speaker 3>I've heard it more aggressive things out there. There's just
<v Speaker 3>a lot of area, you know. You know. Yeah, And
<v Speaker 3>another thing is one thing with my mentor seeing it
<v Speaker 3>is he definitely caught it off guard, you know, like
<v Speaker 3>he I remember that's one thing. And I remember hearing
<v Speaker 3>that about about this helicopter probably had in Alaska someone
<v Speaker 3>and they said they wouldn't have seen it. Most they
<v Speaker 3>kind of caught it off guard, right, They're pretty stealth,
<v Speaker 3>so I think I think I remember him saying, like
<v Speaker 3>they just drove by it and it just happened to
<v Speaker 3>be there at the same time, you know, which means
<v Speaker 3>they're not that scarce that you can, like you can
<v Speaker 3>be in your car on a public highway and see
<v Speaker 3>one which happened to me, Right, So they're not that scarce.
<v Speaker 3>But I think they're just like, in a way they're intelligent,
<v Speaker 3>but in the way they're like they're not perfect, like
<v Speaker 3>they just I probably you know, there's quite a bit
<v Speaker 3>of traffic on that highway and it was just fishing
<v Speaker 3>or something or whatever. So I don't know, they're not
<v Speaker 3>They're not like, isn't that interesting? They're not that scarce
<v Speaker 3>that we have all these sightings of them, right, So yeah.
<v Speaker 2>For sure.
<v Speaker 1>And I think if they were all man eaters, they
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be throwing rocks at you and giving you a
<v Speaker 1>chance to escape the area.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you this is the question for you. Did
<v Speaker 3>you ever hear that one about that that that miner
<v Speaker 3>who he got sick in the sas question given berries
<v Speaker 3>and stuff and actually took him in to town. He
<v Speaker 3>was gonna die.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure unless you're talking about the Oswald guy
<v Speaker 1>from Canada that got abducted and gave him like tobacco,
<v Speaker 1>you might be talking about somebody what the I can't
<v Speaker 1>remember his name, something Oswald. He was abducted by a
<v Speaker 1>clan of Sasquatch. They took him to a cave and
<v Speaker 1>he gave the Sasquatch like like I think it was
<v Speaker 1>like tobacco, and the Sasquatch ate it and threw up
<v Speaker 1>and that's when he made his escape and got out
<v Speaker 1>of there.
<v Speaker 3>See. I don't do that stuff either. Like I heard.
<v Speaker 3>The one I heard was a cleen story was a
<v Speaker 3>Native girl gun abductive and they they she just escaped
<v Speaker 3>and she got really sick and she died. She tried
<v Speaker 3>to you know. But stuff like that is it's so
<v Speaker 3>funny because we're talking about a not a mythical creature
<v Speaker 3>because I've seen him. But it's in the area of
<v Speaker 3>myth missiles right, See, I can't I don't know. I
<v Speaker 3>would actually rather go on the side of like, if
<v Speaker 3>they're killing people or snatching hikers, there's no evidence that's
<v Speaker 3>in the area of myth, we don't know. But as
<v Speaker 3>far as like all the first the first hand encounters
<v Speaker 3>like mine, and they don't seem like they're out to
<v Speaker 3>hurt anybody. I kind of I kind of maybe I
<v Speaker 3>just I'm talking to you right now. I kind of
<v Speaker 3>maybe I want to believe that more. You know, like
<v Speaker 3>even that thing was terrified me when it screamed at me,
<v Speaker 3>but it didn't. You could have killed us, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it could have. Like it definitely definitely scared me. So
<v Speaker 3>that that it gets goes me back to the theory
<v Speaker 3>of it. It didn't like I was.
<v Speaker 2>Too close to it, right, Yeah, for sure, you know.
<v Speaker 3>That's what That's one Another thing I get from all
<v Speaker 3>the stories is like they intimidate more than anything. Like
<v Speaker 3>you just said, if you were in their turn for
<v Speaker 3>they're like, hey, not cool, that's the funny way saying
<v Speaker 3>like get out of here. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, they have their own form of communication, and
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they use aggression to get the message across.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I would love to, even though I should be
<v Speaker 3>careful what I say here, but I would love to
<v Speaker 3>either probably I guess what I'm really saying is I'd
<v Speaker 3>love to actually see it again or just somehow have
<v Speaker 3>like like first hand information, some a little more in
<v Speaker 3>first information or just the mystery hasn't gone away from me,
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I'm really great as we're talking right now.
<v Speaker 3>I'm really grateful that I had a chance to This
<v Speaker 3>is something that's a true part of my life, true
<v Speaker 3>part of my kid's life, and true part of my
<v Speaker 3>my friend Jesse's life. We had a chance to see
<v Speaker 3>this thing. And the other guy's name is Doug, but
<v Speaker 3>I'll leave it up. You can contact him, you know,
<v Speaker 3>And he's got even more story. He's got even more stories.
<v Speaker 3>It's the the energy of the mythos is so exciting.
<v Speaker 3>Like we've heard now about the pterodactyl sighting in Mission, BC,
<v Speaker 3>this little town outside of Avatard, but they have again
<v Speaker 3>they have a huge backwoods area, right you know, So
<v Speaker 3>who knows. It's just something in the heart of man
<v Speaker 3>that we want to figure this stuff out.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. And you should consider yourself lucky
<v Speaker 1>for being able to see these cryptid creatures and having
<v Speaker 1>the experiences that you've had. And I feel the same,
<v Speaker 1>like I feel lucky that I was able to encounter
<v Speaker 1>something like that, And like I said before, it's pushed
<v Speaker 1>me closer to my faith and no doubt, if all
<v Speaker 1>these mythological creatures truly exist, then there's no doubt in
<v Speaker 1>my mind that God isn't real, Like He's definitely there
<v Speaker 1>and present and the stories are true.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, one thing for sure, like maybe I'll say
<v Speaker 3>this that, like I've been having dreams about the end
<v Speaker 3>times before I was even really reading the Bible, and
<v Speaker 3>so did my daughter. She had an open, waking vision
<v Speaker 3>of Relations chapter four when she's just like seventy or
<v Speaker 3>eight years old. No one ever regreted her the Bible.
<v Speaker 3>She saw the angels of heaven with the heads of
<v Speaker 3>the lion in the head of an ox. She had
<v Speaker 3>a vision of that. Well, we're saying, Grace having a chicken.
<v Speaker 3>She just said, Grace, we're on a daddy dollar day,
<v Speaker 3>And he said, I see, Jesus, it's weird. One of
<v Speaker 3>the angels has a head like a lion. And I've
<v Speaker 3>been having visions and dreams of the book Relation even
<v Speaker 3>before I read it myself and believed in it. But
<v Speaker 3>one of the things that says is people will faint
<v Speaker 3>from fear that's coming, that will be coming upon the
<v Speaker 3>face of the earth. And Isaiah talks about the giants returning. Right,
<v Speaker 3>So the one thing of the threat of this is
<v Speaker 3>fear like I've heard guys like I've heard of like
<v Speaker 3>hunters pissing their pants and they see it, you know.
<v Speaker 3>So there's a level of like this stuff's ferocious. You
<v Speaker 3>know that people are going to fear. Like Dan Times,
<v Speaker 3>What's coming back, you know. It says if God didn't
<v Speaker 3>cut those days shorts, there would be no flesh left alive,
<v Speaker 3>you know, the Great Terrible Day of the Lord. There's
<v Speaker 3>there's that element of this stuff being I heard about,
<v Speaker 3>you know, this is I only get in the leeds,
<v Speaker 3>but I heard about this guy who saw he says,
<v Speaker 3>some kind of lizard person in an underground base in Europe,
<v Speaker 3>and he said he was just terrified. He says, it's
<v Speaker 3>just so demonic, you know, and they wouldn't let them.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I want to get in the leaves tell
<v Speaker 3>someone else a story. But that's the kind of thread
<v Speaker 3>that you see with some of the stuff. It's like terror.
<v Speaker 3>And then alternatively, people get abducted and they become warning
<v Speaker 3>and Christians, and when the aliens come back to say
<v Speaker 3>get up and named Jesus and they leave. So there's
<v Speaker 3>another that's a whole other kind of worms. But my
<v Speaker 3>mentor saw some alien stuff, and I thought I did.
<v Speaker 3>One time. My business partner definitely did, and he was
<v Speaker 3>a skeptical person, but he told me some one so
<v Speaker 3>I had. I had. I had a kind of an
<v Speaker 3>encounter once with one that I can kind of corroborate
<v Speaker 3>with what I hear from other people's encounters. But I
<v Speaker 3>don't know. You know, is that something you want to touch.
<v Speaker 2>On or no, yeah, let's talk about it.
<v Speaker 3>Well, for me, it was because I've had so many
<v Speaker 3>visions at the end of the world. I was kind
<v Speaker 3>of almost not traumatized, but I have that that fear
<v Speaker 3>of the Lord like I had. I had a dream
<v Speaker 3>about Revelation six. It says the world turned dark for
<v Speaker 3>a third of the day in the night, the same way.
<v Speaker 3>I had this dream where I was in my hometowns
<v Speaker 3>nor foul Fordsiscatchment, and then everything went black. People were terrified.
<v Speaker 3>I woke up thought I was going to lose my
<v Speaker 3>mind from this incredible fear, fear of the Lord. But
<v Speaker 3>this fear with the darkness coming to the world, and
<v Speaker 3>Isaiah says great darkness is coming, but also so as
<v Speaker 3>the sun, the sons of God will be illuminated. The
<v Speaker 3>glory will be on the sons of God, and the
<v Speaker 3>knowledge of the glory of the Lord will cover the
<v Speaker 3>earth like the waters cover the sea. So someone says,
<v Speaker 3>move countermove where the demonarchs coming, the fearful things are coming.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe the it says it says the of the earth
<v Speaker 3>will be killed. Why wild animals. Now that I've seen
<v Speaker 3>the sasquatch, that makes sense, you know. But what I
<v Speaker 3>was gonna say with my UFO stuff was I was
<v Speaker 3>when I was a kid. I'd be laying in bed
<v Speaker 3>thinking about these and I hear this loud beeping sound
<v Speaker 3>in my mind, like a zip like that, and all
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, my mind would be completely clear. And
<v Speaker 3>I heard that with people with ufhone encounters and not
<v Speaker 3>even tie this all together. WHI I'm talking about the
<v Speaker 3>end times? Is my Landlord. One time he had a
<v Speaker 3>telescope and he was looking at something this telescope and
<v Speaker 3>we don't know if it was some kind of space
<v Speaker 3>center or UFO, but I just started crying. I said, frick,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not ready. I'm not ready for this. What I've
<v Speaker 3>been dreaming about, having visions about for my whole life,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not ready. And so it's not even a question
<v Speaker 3>of do I believe in this stuff. It's a question
<v Speaker 3>of like like putting the pieces together of like how
<v Speaker 3>these people are getting at abducted. And I kind of
<v Speaker 3>tell a bit of my mentor story. He saw something
<v Speaker 3>and then another time he had a vision of something,
<v Speaker 3>and the bottle says, cast on every bin in imagination,
<v Speaker 3>you know, So he rebuked it and it went away.
<v Speaker 3>And that's sort of the true to life things you
<v Speaker 3>hear about these people who are abducted and they rebuot
<v Speaker 3>the thing in the name of Jesus and has all
<v Speaker 3>the authority above every name that can be named, and
<v Speaker 3>above the earth, and you know, and then then you
<v Speaker 3>have some kind of control over what's happening, you know.
<v Speaker 3>So like Jack Delay said that all ufolds are demonic,
<v Speaker 3>and he wasn't a Christian, and he actually had a
<v Speaker 3>book of Aliens and demons like and he believes and
<v Speaker 3>he was a Christian. He believes that this is a
<v Speaker 3>supernatural thing. So I didn't mean to get into all that,
<v Speaker 3>but that's kind of like I have these dreams about
<v Speaker 3>battling the devil in my sleep, and I'm just kind
<v Speaker 3>of on fire, you know, And I think that's we
<v Speaker 3>don't even really know who we are, you know, as
<v Speaker 3>as believers in God, we don't even know it says,
<v Speaker 3>the whole world waiting and is waiting for the manifestation
<v Speaker 3>of the sons of God. I've had like a ton
<v Speaker 3>of encounters with God and I've actually even walked through walls.
<v Speaker 3>And I was transported when I seventeen years old, I
<v Speaker 3>had a vision. I went was taken to Amsterdam. But
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know anything about anything. I just knew that
<v Speaker 3>I knew I was an Amsterdam. I knew God took
<v Speaker 3>me there, and I knew that there was no distance.
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be crazy on you, but like
<v Speaker 3>I think there's something in me and in Christians and
<v Speaker 3>then the just the truth about the spiritual realm, that
<v Speaker 3>we are very very powerful and we're not Like I
<v Speaker 3>heard this witch say that what Christian was on. She
<v Speaker 3>laughed and said, you don't even know who you're not,
<v Speaker 3>you know from the other camp, so to speak. Right,
<v Speaker 3>And is this interesting? I don't. I don't know how
<v Speaker 3>far to go with this, but that's my interest in
<v Speaker 3>It's like there's so much mystery and there's so much
<v Speaker 3>like it's uh and if this would have been revealed
<v Speaker 3>to me all at once, I probably would have went nuts.
<v Speaker 3>But this has been a journey for me. I didn't
<v Speaker 3>believe in any of this stuff when I was a
<v Speaker 3>young guy. I'd actually probably mock it. But that's my
<v Speaker 3>that's that's a more legitimate thing to say. Is I
<v Speaker 3>fought the supernatural realm, kicking and screaming all the way.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to believe that. I didn't think it
<v Speaker 3>was real. But then I ended up having a whole,
<v Speaker 3>a whole now twenty thirty years of it, you know,
<v Speaker 3>and still it's like I don't know everything, and I'm
<v Speaker 3>maybe just starting to believe, starting to you know, put
<v Speaker 3>it together, what this stuff is and where what's our
<v Speaker 3>role in the whole endgame?
<v Speaker 1>And you know, yeah, absolutely it all could be tied
<v Speaker 1>in together.
<v Speaker 2>For sure.
<v Speaker 3>Well it is for me because it's I mean started
<v Speaker 3>out like that, like I'm because of my mentorship, plus
<v Speaker 3>the fact that my daughter prayed and we were all
<v Speaker 3>just influenced by the same things, right, But it's kind
<v Speaker 3>of like, you know, hang on in the barbershop, you're
<v Speaker 3>going to get a haircut. You know, my mentor's praying
<v Speaker 3>to see the sobsquatch. So I started to and then
<v Speaker 3>my daughter did just as joke, just as out of
<v Speaker 3>a reactionary thing, you know, because she believed in She
<v Speaker 3>had her own miracles, you know, growing up, and to
<v Speaker 3>make her believe it wasn't my faith, it was hers.
<v Speaker 3>So I'll have to ask her about the sus So
<v Speaker 3>she even remembers that. I think we talked about it
<v Speaker 3>a couple of years ago, but she was so little,
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'll definitely see what what she remembers from that day,
<v Speaker 1>if anything at all. But I don't know you'd be surprised.
<v Speaker 1>When kids experience something like that, they usually carry it
<v Speaker 1>for their entire life and they never forget it.
<v Speaker 3>I think some of it's internalized. Because I won't speak
<v Speaker 3>for herself, but she basically, like in the Bible says,
<v Speaker 3>raise a child in the way that I should go
<v Speaker 3>when they're old, like basically later they want to depart
<v Speaker 3>from it. I can see the faith and my kids
<v Speaker 3>and how they live their lives. And I had a
<v Speaker 3>friend of mine she just kind of kind of what
<v Speaker 3>proved the point she felt really strongly from God that
<v Speaker 3>she's supposed to stop working. And they had a like
<v Speaker 3>had a food program for supper in Colognia and maybe
<v Speaker 3>for breakfast. They didn't have a nuner. So she just
<v Speaker 3>said God split her and said, quit your job, put
<v Speaker 3>a match box in match box in front of your
<v Speaker 3>e and the f on, your empty and phone and
<v Speaker 3>your gas tank, don't look at your bank account, and
<v Speaker 3>just start making sandwiches for people. And for seven or
<v Speaker 3>ten years they said, everybody in Columba said, ten thousand
<v Speaker 3>people and they run on the money. People say, hey, God,
<v Speaker 3>let me give you a grand and here's some sandwich meats.
<v Speaker 3>And then they had a little clicker and they said,
<v Speaker 3>he said, I never had to tell my kids about
<v Speaker 3>dog because they saw it, you know. And I think
<v Speaker 3>that's what the world needs to see, is like this
<v Speaker 3>is some real real you know, sahi t this is
<v Speaker 3>some real stuff. You know. This isn't for the faint
<v Speaker 3>of heart. And that's what the boble says, like and
<v Speaker 3>so sometimes seeing is believing, right, And again like I didn't,
<v Speaker 3>I didn't. I think God knew my heart that he
<v Speaker 3>has a plan for my life and everyone's life, and
<v Speaker 3>he wants to show us these cool things. But I
<v Speaker 3>didn't have the faith war it. He provided the faith
<v Speaker 3>war it by having going through it, hearing about it.
<v Speaker 3>Facecomes my hearing, you know. And that's back to the
<v Speaker 3>sasquest thing that you when now I had my own
<v Speaker 3>personal encounter. But then when you go back and talk
<v Speaker 3>to these farmers and these these loggers and these hunters,
<v Speaker 3>and they're going, yeah, especially when they're tough guys, and
<v Speaker 3>they like wouldn't admit it a million years. And there
<v Speaker 3>was a farmer in particular this saw the Oga pubgle
<v Speaker 3>same thing. Didn't have any desire to tell anybody Lettle
<v Speaker 3>thee make it up. And I think the guy from
<v Speaker 3>the Patti film said that Ruminor's life, no one thought
<v Speaker 3>he was a credible person. You know, I was trying
<v Speaker 3>to get famous and he was just reporting. You know.
<v Speaker 3>So when the tough guys come out and say this
<v Speaker 3>is this is real, this happens, this is the truth,
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, then it's then it's you know,
<v Speaker 3>then the supernatural becomes credible. Actually, uh, lastly, maybe I'll
<v Speaker 3>say that like in the Third world, it's not like
<v Speaker 3>that at all, Like everyone believes, most of the Third
<v Speaker 3>world just believes, you know, it's a part of their
<v Speaker 3>part of their supernatural realm and the faith realm was
<v Speaker 3>part of their life. It's more a people have money
<v Speaker 3>that I'm probably believing. You know, people have their inconvenience.
<v Speaker 3>They don't really need to believe.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Like Hollywood has turned the actual subject, whether it's cryptids
<v Speaker 1>or religion, into like mythology and like it's something fake.
<v Speaker 1>And they've done that with a lot of things at all. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean it just makes everything seem like something it's
<v Speaker 1>not even down to, like relationships, like people expect these
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood relationships where it feels magical and you got to
<v Speaker 1>find the perfect one. But that's not reality, Like that's
<v Speaker 1>not how things actually work out.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You know, ironically, people are happier when they're when
<v Speaker 3>they're just in community. I find I'd have a dinner
<v Speaker 3>party last night and it was so great and the
<v Speaker 3>only downfall was people that were you know, it didn't
<v Speaker 3>be there for whatever reason, but I felt such peace
<v Speaker 3>just just being spending time with friends. Were made. We're
<v Speaker 3>hardware for community, you know, it's it's secure for addiction
<v Speaker 3>in russi Ara checks to the back and they just
<v Speaker 3>take Caroin addicts. They don't send him a treatment anymore.
<v Speaker 3>They just put them in a family. It's like basically love, right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>God puts those lonely. The Bible says God puts the
<v Speaker 3>lonely into families. That's secure for loneliness, that's secure for heartache.
<v Speaker 3>Is love. God is love. That's the yeah. I was
<v Speaker 3>gonna say, Like the word myth or in the word mythos,
<v Speaker 3>it's like a myth is something that changes over time,
<v Speaker 3>like with the Ogo Pogla thing. Everyone has the same story.
<v Speaker 3>If they heard about Oga pola, they didn't. He doesn't
<v Speaker 3>change over time. And that's why I guess that's why
<v Speaker 3>I kept watching all the Sasquatch videos. Was like, Wow,
<v Speaker 3>that's that's what's happened to me, you know, like a myth,
<v Speaker 3>like they taught the creation myth, but like, but it's
<v Speaker 3>not a myth. It's an account, you know, and it
<v Speaker 3>doesn't change like sometimes in antiquity, other creation stories may
<v Speaker 3>change as they're horribly translated, but the Roman even never changes.
<v Speaker 3>You know, early early Mesopotamia, you can find those places.
<v Speaker 3>You can find where in Turkey where the art landed.
<v Speaker 3>You can find it in Chinese calligraphy. You know about
<v Speaker 3>the boat with eight people on it, you know, it's
<v Speaker 3>it can be corroborated through intiguity and through history. And
<v Speaker 3>one thing that triggered me when you were talking was,
<v Speaker 3>you know that in in like you know, we call
<v Speaker 3>it Greek mythology. You know what they call it Greek history. Yeah, well,
<v Speaker 3>if we're on the outside of Greece, we go in
<v Speaker 3>Greek mythology, they say Abc the centaur, they manataura, right,
<v Speaker 3>and then with the go ahead or whatever, it says
<v Speaker 3>that in the Bible it talks about the center or
<v Speaker 3>in the Bible, I think I have to look it up.
<v Speaker 3>But in Greek, if you go to Greece, it's just
<v Speaker 3>Greek history, right. So people try to like water things
<v Speaker 3>down over time, like with the giants and with the
<v Speaker 3>you know, with the Bible and with like I watched
<v Speaker 3>one thing it was interesting about this when you said, maybe,
<v Speaker 3>like I do you think do you think the Sasquatch
<v Speaker 3>might be a film or something like that? Do you
<v Speaker 3>believe in that?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think that.
<v Speaker 1>Either they are the Nephilm or they were created by
<v Speaker 1>the Nephalm, And it's definitely something from that time.
<v Speaker 3>Well, one thing I did here, one negative story I
<v Speaker 3>heard about this she was a forest ranger and she said,
<v Speaker 3>the think past out of the woods, but she felt
<v Speaker 3>how evil it was. I've heard the odd story about that.
<v Speaker 3>There was a native lady who talked about it's spooking
<v Speaker 3>the horses, that it's just like it looked like it
<v Speaker 3>wanted to kill them, Like it was so angry. It's
<v Speaker 3>so scary, and I've heard of them just killing horses,
<v Speaker 3>not really eating them and things like that. It's going
<v Speaker 3>on a rampage, you know, so there must be some
<v Speaker 3>bad ones out there. She said it was an abomination.
<v Speaker 3>That was the word she used. And she started talking
<v Speaker 3>about the Bible and the Nephlom, and that really caught
<v Speaker 3>my attention, the word abomination, like it's not meant to be.
<v Speaker 3>And that's basically what happened when in the book in
<v Speaker 3>the Bible from Genesis to j who talks about them
<v Speaker 3>going after strange flash and you know, basically illegal activity,
<v Speaker 3>you know, and that's where you get demons people word.
<v Speaker 3>I looked into some demonology and that's basically the spirits
<v Speaker 3>of the giants that died in the flood. They're like
<v Speaker 3>and the let's talk to the UFOs and the like,
<v Speaker 3>it's not good. It's a bad entity, and ironically in
<v Speaker 3>the battle says, like even the demons believe, except they
<v Speaker 3>shudder at the thought of God. You know, even demons,
<v Speaker 3>even the devil believes in God. It's more of a
<v Speaker 3>it's more of a player of the devil to get
<v Speaker 3>you not to believe in them. That this is the
<v Speaker 3>problem with the cause of all the problems, right, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>he had I let him tell the story. You can
<v Speaker 3>edit this out. But he saw a guy just spear
<v Speaker 3>right in front like this guy was taking pictures of
<v Speaker 3>him downtown Vancouver and he was doing deliverance with people
<v Speaker 3>and praying for people, and he looked over to talk
<v Speaker 3>to the guy. He said, the guy's eyes are pure
<v Speaker 3>evil and he just right in front of him. And
<v Speaker 3>my friend with my other friend was there too, and
<v Speaker 3>he saw it. So we're a little yeah, but that's
<v Speaker 3>that's the kind of thing between me and you. That's
<v Speaker 3>what I don't know if you air this, but that's
<v Speaker 3>what I feel that's inside me. With manifestations. I see
<v Speaker 3>a crisis inside of me, and the Bible says he
<v Speaker 3>lives inside me. I'm his God's son, I'm a new creation.
<v Speaker 3>The word sons of God in the old Testament is
<v Speaker 3>the same word for angels, right, So the whole world's
<v Speaker 3>waiting for the manifications of the sons of God. This
<v Speaker 3>is what I really believe. This when I had these
<v Speaker 3>dreams or I had a lady told me I stopped
<v Speaker 3>the bank robbery one time. And I don't even know
<v Speaker 3>if it was me or another Christian, because when the
<v Speaker 3>power of God's coming on me, I become like a
<v Speaker 3>whole different person. That saysn't in Isaiah or it says
<v Speaker 3>about it says about Isaiah. I think it says Elijah
<v Speaker 3>became like a different man. Like I've had stop fifth fights.
<v Speaker 3>I've stopped. I stopped the fifth fight one time between
<v Speaker 3>these gang members and this old guy, and it's just
<v Speaker 3>like God's presence comes on me, and I know what
<v Speaker 3>to say, I know what to do. I'm not afraid.
<v Speaker 3>One time I stopped there was almost a rioting downtown
<v Speaker 3>and read there with this black guy who's certainly come
<v Speaker 3>with a whoozy, and I just this boldness came on me,
<v Speaker 3>and I went up to him and said, hey, come
<v Speaker 3>with me. I took him out of custody from the police.
<v Speaker 3>Boldness came on me. I said, I work with kids
<v Speaker 3>of youth, bring him to knee. These cops are afraid.
<v Speaker 3>These rightnecks were yelling at this guy. Go back to Africa.
<v Speaker 3>And there's this violence. And it says on the Bible
<v Speaker 3>like we stopped fires. My face, we you know, stop
<v Speaker 3>claiming these Jesus stop the storm. But the power of going,
<v Speaker 3>you know, all this stuff is I didn't believe in
<v Speaker 3>it at all, but I think deep down this is
<v Speaker 3>who we are. We're sons of God and we have power.
<v Speaker 3>You know, we have the authority for Jesus to stop
<v Speaker 3>aliens and stop fires and call the Sasquatch. And now
<v Speaker 3>I'm sounding crazy, but I know, like when I have
<v Speaker 3>dreams about the end times, I feel like I'm finding
<v Speaker 3>the devil himself. I saw which one time, and she
<v Speaker 3>just looked at me, and she I looked at her,
<v Speaker 3>and she just grabbed her darter and said, I'm out
<v Speaker 3>of here. You know, it's kind of like this, you know,
<v Speaker 3>good and bad, you know, like I had to. I
<v Speaker 3>had a rabid dog attack my dad one time. I
<v Speaker 3>used to terror part of this dog. He would jump
<v Speaker 3>like three feet high and startlet my dad. My dad's elderly,
<v Speaker 3>and he got that one time I thought, okay, And
<v Speaker 3>God's power came home and I sit between my dad
<v Speaker 3>and the dog, and the dog backed up. I have
<v Speaker 3>a friend up here. He's done that with bears. He's
<v Speaker 3>spoken tongues and how the bear leave? You know, things
<v Speaker 3>like that, like the mysteries, the mystery of God's power
<v Speaker 3>and this Christ and that's just the hope of glory.
<v Speaker 3>That power is, you know, it's the faith, the power
<v Speaker 3>of faith. But normally we're just dudes right again, trying
<v Speaker 3>to get through life, pay rent and whatever. When God
<v Speaker 3>shows up, well, I think that's what it is. Is
<v Speaker 3>like Jesus grew an authority with man and favor with
<v Speaker 3>man and God, you know, And but he knew who
<v Speaker 3>he was at twelve years old. I think we're finding
<v Speaker 3>out who we are. I heard about this one time,
<v Speaker 3>this this guy, uh, this car fell on him. His
<v Speaker 3>grandma picked up the car. This adrenaline came on and
<v Speaker 3>should pick up the car. Yeah, I mean that's I
<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's God or just adrenaline. But she
<v Speaker 3>said she'd never talked about it. And he finally said,
<v Speaker 3>why don't you talk about this? Drammaine. She goes, because
<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid of who I really am. Pretty powerful stuff,
<v Speaker 3>like you know, and I think deep down it's just
<v Speaker 3>like the Bible says, you're either going to divide, you're scattered,
<v Speaker 3>You're with me or against me. Like if you follow God,
<v Speaker 3>you have the right to become a son of God
<v Speaker 3>by faith, you transform you in your creation. You're this
<v Speaker 3>is the ship, the natural part of the Bible that
<v Speaker 3>just looks like flat to people who don't who don't
<v Speaker 3>get it, and I never thought it for a long time,
<v Speaker 3>but we are more than conquerors in crisis. We can
<v Speaker 3>we can we It says we have power to pull
<v Speaker 3>down principalities and powers, and we don't wrestle with flesh
<v Speaker 3>and blood. You know, I've had encounters where I could
<v Speaker 3>feel the principality of the demon of that area attacking me,
<v Speaker 3>and we're a threat to them.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 3>That's why there's such a battle with the left and
<v Speaker 3>the right and all the stuff. If you're a Christian,
<v Speaker 3>you know, people want to have laws that you can
<v Speaker 3>have sex with minors. That's evil in my opinion. You know,
<v Speaker 3>it's just coming to a head where you know, you
<v Speaker 3>have to pick a side. You know, that's where I'm
<v Speaker 3>at and I think that's that's the excitement of the
<v Speaker 3>end times and the fear of it is like we're
<v Speaker 3>going to manifest. The world's waiting for us to matth
<v Speaker 3>Us and be like Jesus have the same Eric he said,
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna do great Americans than we did that he did. Right,
<v Speaker 3>That's the heart of the Father is this is how
<v Speaker 3>my father's glorified. As you very much root and become
<v Speaker 3>my disciple, you know, so we do greater works than
<v Speaker 3>the Lord did it, even more than he did, you know.
<v Speaker 3>And just like I knew, a guy go and hear
<v Speaker 3>a crazy story. Okay, this is a crazy story that
<v Speaker 3>we've heard. So in the Bible it has a whatever
<v Speaker 3>Abraham said over his children, it's called the blessing or
<v Speaker 3>one of the patriarchs. Whatever they say over the kids,
<v Speaker 3>they got right. It wasn't prayer, it was not prophecy.
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's just blessing of the Father. So Abraham
<v Speaker 3>prayed before with sons. I think it was Zebelyn because
<v Speaker 3>you will find the riches hidden in the sand. There's
<v Speaker 3>a pastor from Argentina that came into Kennedy tell them
<v Speaker 3>the story. There's a little ten year old boy walks by.
<v Speaker 3>In the power God comes on the pastor and says,
<v Speaker 3>you inherit the blessings the rich is hidden in the sand.
<v Speaker 3>He signed the Spanish scallion. He turned eighteen. He was
<v Speaker 3>into surfing and diving. He's found a splash scallion with
<v Speaker 3>hundred million dollars or the gold. And the Lord spoke
<v Speaker 3>to the pastor ten years before and said, it's going
<v Speaker 3>to be for the Kingdom of God to help poor
<v Speaker 3>friends and churches. And immediately, I think it was in poared.
<v Speaker 3>We immediately the whatever country was in put a law
<v Speaker 3>overnight we claim all shipwrecks, you know. So they still
<v Speaker 3>they had to go to court, but they won half
<v Speaker 3>of it back. But that's like God sees the future.
<v Speaker 3>That kind of thing is exciting. And my mentor when
<v Speaker 3>I was young, her right him, he said that same
<v Speaker 3>he had a different story like that. There's a merchant,
<v Speaker 3>merchant marine divers. I became Christians who went to a
<v Speaker 3>meeting and someone said the same kind of thing to them.
<v Speaker 3>You can have it nice, it says I think it
<v Speaker 3>says Isaiah, I will give you the riches said in
<v Speaker 3>the darkest and they said, we think God's talking to us,
<v Speaker 3>and they found Spanish Dallian too. You know, they found
<v Speaker 3>a much of gold. You know, this is it's again.
<v Speaker 3>It's like what I first said. It's the it's the
<v Speaker 3>it's the power of God to conceal the matter. It's
<v Speaker 3>the glory of kings to find it out. And it
<v Speaker 3>says in the Bible we're a nation of kings and
<v Speaker 3>priests and to God. You know where Jacob was giving
<v Speaker 3>the power of great wealth. I heard of Even though
<v Speaker 3>this is interesting, you know Nikola Tesla, Yeah, obviously you
<v Speaker 3>know Tesla. Well, Tesla would just be walking down the
<v Speaker 3>street and hear the idea. It just popping his brain.
<v Speaker 3>Oh hec currents oh okay. And it says in the
<v Speaker 3>Bible and the Book of Proverbs it says, I am wisdom.
<v Speaker 3>I live here with what he inventions. So I knew
<v Speaker 3>a guy that had an idea for app and he
<v Speaker 3>made like like a hundred million bucks. Like I can't
<v Speaker 3>confirm that one exactly, but that's the kind of thing
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about. He did never want I ran to him.
<v Speaker 3>He never really wanted to talk about it for whatever reasons.
<v Speaker 3>Problem obviously reasons, but God can give you. There's no
<v Speaker 3>the wisdom of God. A friend of mine was gonna
<v Speaker 3>he was gonna kill himself, and he had a physical
<v Speaker 3>hand stop him from jumping off a bridge, and a
<v Speaker 3>couple of years later, the glory of God came on.
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't even a Christian yet, and he's understood every
<v Speaker 3>algorithm in the world and how to fix the world
<v Speaker 3>his algorithms. His dad called him, and his dad doesn't
<v Speaker 3>believe in God. He says, you're in the same room
<v Speaker 3>with me. You're over the phone, and I know you're
<v Speaker 3>in the room with me. So there's no distance, there's
<v Speaker 3>no time in resistance. In the spirit right, God is immaterial,
<v Speaker 3>He's out of the time, so he can be the creator,
<v Speaker 3>not the created. And as sons of God, we have
<v Speaker 3>access to that realm through wisdom. So my friend had
<v Speaker 3>a three hour experience with the spirit of wisdom. He
<v Speaker 3>understood everything and then it was gone. I've had a
<v Speaker 3>few things like that here where you just you just
<v Speaker 3>know that, you know, you don't know how you know.
<v Speaker 3>Even when I when I saw the old Pogo, something
<v Speaker 3>in me just turned my head. I believe that was
<v Speaker 3>Christ to me. I just my head for no reason.
<v Speaker 3>My head made a forty five degree turn. I went,
<v Speaker 3>what is that? You know? That was I didn't really
<v Speaker 3>embelrace that when I told this story about the other Pogo,
<v Speaker 3>but that's what it was like. It's like, why am
<v Speaker 3>I looking here? Just was like it was like a
<v Speaker 3>surreal moment, you know, like, oh, I think I'll just
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. It wasn't really me doing it.
<v Speaker 3>You know. I've had some other things too, where I
<v Speaker 3>like a bunch of recording equipment was stolen, and God
<v Speaker 3>spoke to me, said I want you to go to
<v Speaker 3>cam Lips tomorrow and nothing was working out, and I prayed,
<v Speaker 3>I gave up, and I feel Christ smiling inside me
<v Speaker 3>and my my I smiled, and all of a sudden
<v Speaker 3>my phone rang and someone said, hey, I've got all
<v Speaker 3>your recording equipment so much sounds crashed, Come get it.
<v Speaker 3>God just did the impossible for me. You know, you
<v Speaker 3>found the stuff that was stolen. And then I have
<v Speaker 3>way more stories than that, but that's the things that
<v Speaker 3>are coming to me right now. You know.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate you for all that with me, and
<v Speaker 1>I definitely appreciate the Sasquatch and Oga Pogo stories. It
<v Speaker 1>was really cool to hear about that, and yeah, I'd
<v Speaker 1>like to hear your friends encounter that he had by
<v Speaker 1>the whole river and any First Nations people that would
<v Speaker 1>like to talk about this on air, And I think
<v Speaker 1>that'd be really cool.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I'll want Maybe the thing is they don't
<v Speaker 3>want to talk about it, like at least of the
<v Speaker 3>people from income like it's it's kind of a humble thing.
<v Speaker 3>It's not like they don't want to they don't want
<v Speaker 3>to grandstand when I hear actually natives come on and
<v Speaker 3>talk about their encounters. Maybe next generation like younger guys,
<v Speaker 3>but the older people, I don't know if that's really
<v Speaker 3>a cultural thing for them to, Like, they didn't want
<v Speaker 3>me to put I think I made a voice recording
<v Speaker 3>of them, but I don't even they wanted me to
<v Speaker 3>do that. So I don't know if that's gonna happen.
<v Speaker 3>But I definitely, I definitely it's conversational, you know, like
<v Speaker 3>I've my my mentor talking to the natives of Maia
<v Speaker 3>Harrison and I talked to guys from Kingcom and you know,
<v Speaker 3>so I can corroborate what the survivor man guy is
<v Speaker 3>saying because it's it's in my back Haircter. Actually there
<v Speaker 3>was a guy. There was a guy from Alert Bay
<v Speaker 3>who went on Sasquatch Chronicles and he talked about it.
<v Speaker 3>But he he was definitely like a like to talk,
<v Speaker 3>but mostly he's not really talked about But I don't
<v Speaker 3>know if he anyan, I don't know. I'm kind of
<v Speaker 3>just I just contradicted myself. But I do know one
<v Speaker 3>guy that's Guossala Gossal of Nakula. He came and talked
<v Speaker 3>about it. So yeah, I'll give you this contact, don't
<v Speaker 3>you know. See if he uh see, if he picks
<v Speaker 3>up his phone, you never know, ask him about the Mastidon.
<v Speaker 3>That's the craziest thing is that he talked to someone
<v Speaker 3>who's who knew about an in like in Northwest Territories
<v Speaker 3>or in anyway. Yeah, we get talking to you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was good talking with you too, Randy, and
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate everything you did. And yeah, if you encounter
<v Speaker 1>anything else in the future, reach out man.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you never know. Perfect though.
<v Speaker 1>Thanks migirl, yep, thank you, and you have an excellent Sunday,
<v Speaker 1>my friend God bless all right, Randy, thank you very
<v Speaker 1>much for sharing your bigfoot encrypted encounters from the Canadian Wilderness.
<v Speaker 1>Randy's experiences remind us that the unknown doesn't always appear
<v Speaker 1>when we expect it, and sometimes it arrives in ways
<v Speaker 1>that challenge our beliefs, our courage, and our understanding of reality.
<v Speaker 1>If you've had an encounter or unexplained experience, reach out
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