Brittany’s Side of the Story

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Happy Hour listeners. I'm Becky Couperin and we have another switcheroof for you this week. Because you're not getting Michelle Young today, everyone, You're getting Thomas Jacobs. That's him once again. He's back with us. We had a few little last minute changes and luckily he could step in. Thomas. I called you my pinch hitter because you always come in at the last moments to save the day, to seal the deal. So thanks for being unhappy our honey. Absolutely, I can't guarantee I'm always gonna hit, but I will step in a box and I will swing as far as I can for you. I love it. We're excited to be back again. It I feel like we haven't recorded in forever. It was very crazy week because we had Thanksgiving and we've been traveling, so apologies and advanced all of our listeners because Thomas and I are both not feeling that great. We spent the past week with my little niece and nephew who are Petri dishes, and they were sick from daycare, so we of course got sick and now we're here. So if I sound like a man, I apologize, but we're ready to go. We're gonna have a very fun guest today, Thomas, you actually met her. Do you want to introduce our guests? Who's going to be coming on? Of course, we have none other than Brittany Galvin. Now we all know Brittany went through quite the rigger at the end of Paradise, and we have a lot to catch up on her life just because of the season. It doesn't mean the drama behind the scenes and everything people's lives. As they say, what is it, The show must go on. The show must go on. Yes, and so we're going to get the scoop from her very soon on like what actually went down with her entiler at the end of Paradise and then obviously after Paradise before that, Thomas, you want to chat and catch any of our listeners up on our lives on our house. I know you love talking about the renovations. Well, the exciting thing is I'm actually recording from inside the house right now for the first time in our history, because this is a momentum. Yeah. No, I'm just echoing your sentiment earlier that three year olds are the cutest little viral infected bundles of joy than any of us can ever have in this world. So yeah, there's fun spending time in Minnesota. The baby fevers definitely kicking, Yeah, all the time. That's going to be something still. Yeah, Yeah, it was fun being back in Minnesota with you. I obviously always loved bringing you back there. You haven't yet been there for the summer, which I think you're really gonna appreciate. But we had a great Thanksgiving. We ate way way, way too much every day. I had to just constantly wear sweatpants each and every day that we were there. But yeah, it was It was fun seeing you with my niece and nephew, with both a little baby and then running around with a three year old. I don't know who had more energy, you or my niece. You both are crazy. Until it was time to like change diapers or something, I definitely am, Oh my god, she pooped in the living room, and at that point she won the day. I can't compete with this. Should we share that story with everyone? I don't know. I don't know if we should share. It's a it's a three year old poop story. But Thomas knows how to change a diaper, but he says he doesn't want to like physically actively partake in this until we have our own kids. Like he wants it to be his own DNA. So he has watched me changed for my niece and nephews diapers before, but we have yet. This is the first time that we've had to deal with a three year old point to the bathroom, and so she's she's potty trained. So she like has her little toilet that she'll like pick up and bring with her and like put it in room to room so she can go to the bathroom. And you know, after a big Thanksgiving meal, all of the stuffy and the turkey, the mashed potatoes hit her heart. The details that made a little bit. She runs into the into the living room and Thomas and are babysitting and I'm holding this little baby who had just fed. He's asleep. She looks at Thomas and she's like, I got to go to the bathroom, and Thomas was like, okay, cool, go to the bathroom. You're potty train. So she goes to the bathroom and it's not number one. It turns into me number two. But she doesn't know how to like fully wipe herself. So she looked at Thomas like, come on Uncle Tommy, and his face when he looked at me was pure terror. I have never seen Thomas's face looked the way it did. It was like he was traumatized. He did not know what to do. So he's like, quick, give me the baby. You could wipe her, and so I proceeded to take care of my little cute niece. And you're less fair though there should be a line deleting agin if you are not the direct blood relative, well you should pass on the obligation to wipe the three year old spot to the direct blood relative. But the best part, but Tom's the best part, and he's all watching this, but he like doesn't want to be but she doesn't, just like I don't just like wipe her. She proceeds to do eighth full on summer self play if anyone does yoga, you know, like the plow post where the like the legs go over the head on the ground. That's how she had me wipe her. And I'm like, well, we're really getting clean this time around. And with that, I really am sorry for all of our happy our listeners listen, yeah, happy our listeners. I will be resigning effective immediately. I'm sorry you guys have to just listen through that. Oh lord, this is my sisters or my mom's gonna call me and be like, you shouldn't have shared that story on the podcast, but hey, it's real and now Thomas wants kids more than ever. So here we are, which brings us to happy endings or not so happy endings after Paradise great segue. Um, Yeah, let's get into bring Brittany on. We have so many questions for her. I don't know about our listeners and Thomas, I don't know about you. I don't know how how active you are on the TikTok, but there's been some TikTok. She's done trying to rope Tyler in. I want to know, like if he's joined her. If not, like we have all the things, So let's bring her on and get her take post Harris. Well, Brittany, welcome to Happy Hour. This is your first time here, first time on a podcast ever, like having your first date ever and Bachelor and Paradise or being on your first baschlor podcast. I'm gonna go I'm gonna have to go a date because the cameras, but this im like I'm in my messy apartment, so we're chilling. Oh my gosh, no, this will be so easy, so fun. Well, I'm happy that you are on Happy Hour. Then to talk about all this and know we have like obviously a ton of questions for you. M let's start off. Well, first of all, now that Paradise the reunion filming everything is over, just overall, how have you been I okay, Um, I mean definitely throughout the season it was amazing and like all, like the love from everyone was awesome. But when a lot of people just only watch the reunion just to kind of see the recap, it was a little bit shocking with all like the backlash that came from it, um, just because you know, watching it back, what was twenty minute conversation only sixty seconds gets to get shown. So it's a little bit hard. Yeah, but it's definitely nice, like not seeing myself on the screen every Monday and Tuesday, and like just spending time with family and friends right now, being able to friends, what are you doing just to really ground yourself because you said okay, and I think we all felt it's like that pain behind it because there's a lot that goes into it. So yeah, I mean I deleted my Instagram app. I mean, I'm gonna redowload it, but I just kind of need it to just not see all of that. And it's definitely died down. I think it's been like a week now, so like I'll probably redownload it after this podcast. But I've just been doing yoga and just going on walks and yeah, we're just chilling right now. Yeah, it can be a lot. It's it's and I'm sure you experienced this coming off of the actual season, right, like off of filming and being quarantined on this beach with the same people day in and day out. It's an adjustment to come back to real life. But then it's also a weird adjustment that no one can really fully understand living your real life while it's all being aired on TV. And as you said, so much is filmed. Basically the entire time is film, but viewers are only seen a few seconds of a conversation or a quick clip here and there, and it's not the full picture. So I can understand like just this like adjustment process where youse got to be tough. Have you been able to lean on your friends and family this past week and to spend time like for Thanksgiving. Yeah, No, I've imported like talking to like cast members that were on my season just because they kind of understand and know the behind the scenes. So it's been really nice like having those resources because you know, some people don't have that, but you know, regardless, I mean, I just don't think a lot of people know that. Like a lot of this was being filmed months ago, and then I know the reunion was like a month ago still though, but like I've had time to like process and have conversations with you know, Tyler and whoever. But yeah, the big thing, and I really commended for this is having about the self respective step away from all that and deleting the app and just taking head space as someone who's got a tough experience coming off the show as well, I know firsthand with those hate messages could be like and it's just overwhelming. So to walk away from that just focus on you. I applaud for that, and I also will see thank you. I appreciate that gets better. I mean it's it's it's going to return to a normal and you're going to put all that behind you and you'ren be a better person for it. Yeah, And I mean I can't even imagine like the magnitude it probably is for you guys, or just people with a bigger fan base, you get like, regardless of how good of a person you are, you still get hate. You know. I saw something on like my TikTok about like Claire Crawley how she posted and she's still getting hate after like all these months of not being like the Bachelorette anymore. So it's just pretty crazy that people have so much like hate in their hearts and just like so much evilness to reach out to a random stranger. Yeah, I can just say honestly, and this has taken me years now of being out of the show, really like stay out of the dms. You know, it's and you have to remember, these people truly don't know you, and they think they do for the two seconds they don't know you, they like, who are they to really judge? And it's always somebody projecting an insecurity or an issue or something going on in their lives onto you, which is not fair. Nobody should be that punching bag. But it's smart to have deactivated Instagram for a while to stay out of the dms, like don't read the comments, like it's just I mean, it's will get easier. I like block people too, because I'm like, that's how I protect my piece. I saw some girl her names like Victoria Paris, but she blocks anyone that like sends her like a hate comment or a hate message because you could comment on like the Bachelor franchise stuff, anything you want about me, but like on my own personal profile, like, no, I'm not going to see that, So I just block everyone by blocking feels so effing good. Sometimes it feels great, like I've done. I would take like a day and just do a deep clean sometimes on my social and just be like black, block block. I don't want to deal with your negativity. Do whatever you have to do to protect your mental health, your inner peace, all of that. Um let's get into though your time on Paradise. We're going to take you back a few months ago, put you back in that headspace you were there since the beginning, and you're actually somebody that when Michelle and I were recapping each week, like we loved you, I loved you just seemed to stand for what you believed and you know your worth. You would dodge the cases if you knew it wasn't right if the relationship wasn't going your way. Incredible two moments, two judges. It was great, but you really seemed to, I would say, find your footing in paradise during that split week. Obviously that was a wild ride and it threw everyone for a loop. But that's where you were actually introduced to Tyler, which was your main relationship on that beach. You guys seemed to hit it off together right away. What was your initial connection with him? Like, Okay, so I feel like a lot of people didn't get to see my story and a lot of my journey building up to that moment. But I kind of dealt with a lot of hardships of you know, getting into relationships with some people, not relationships, but talking to some people at the beach and it just not working out. So when I met Tyler, he was the one person that right when I met him, he was just very like into the conversation, he wanted it very direct, and it just made me feel really good to be pursued for once, and it just honestly, it was amazing, like we had so many things in common just from our backgrounds and you know, our siblings and all that. So it was really cool to actually meet someone that I had so much one attraction too, but too we had so many common interests. Did you know, I think it was one of your first couple conversations with Tyler, and it might have actually been the first kiss you shared. But do you remember, like we were watching it back into Cheney was like the girls were kind of size Yeah, seeing you like have this moment and this kiss and shine kind of had the meltdown in the background and went into her room and was upset. Did you know any of that was going on as Okay? Well, Also, I'm like watching it back because I got to see Tyler state with Sey. I didn't know how intentional he was with her too, so like seeing them like make out three times and like have all like these combos, um, I didn't realize like how serious it might have seemed to Cheney, So I totally understand where she was coming from. But I, yeah, I was just kind of surprised because I'm like, I did no idea that was going on entire right. Did you think do you think watching back those moment is that Tyler had with other cast members somewhat of had an impact on your ass relationship outside in the real world. I mean at that time when I saw it, we weren't dating anymore. But I did text him and he didn't respond. I was like damn three times. But yeah, that almost like a moment of clarity for you then as well. Yeah, no, I think I was, because we broke up probably like a month before that, I want to say, so I already had my clarity, but it was just kind of like, oh wow, he was very intentional with Cheney. That kind of was a shock to me. So were you able to ever have a conversation with her after that before going back to the beach about like kind of where you stood and you're like, yeah, I have this connection. I didn't know it was as serious. Were you too able to sit down? Uh? You know when Jesse would come in and like talk about where the relationships were. We did have conversations and I was like, you know, Tyler's my number one right now, like I like him so much. So I think she kind of got the hint, but we never I just didn't know that they were serious like that, even though he claimed that they weren't. So I didn't really have that conversation with her, and I don't think he had the conversation with her. Okay. So man, So there's so much that happens, and there's so much that goes on with everyone that it's hard to sit down. And it's easy for me because if you were to be like, oh, well, like that conversation should have taken place, but of course, like there's so much behind the scenes that you don't know. So it's and I feel like the viewers always get so critical about that on people like, oh, she should have pulled him or had this conversation with her, this and that, and it's like there's sometimes just not time, and sometimes you're just not aware unless somebody is very direct in your face about something, you just don't always know. Yeah, overall, was there anything from this season that was really difficult for you to watch back? Just the reunion honestly, just because I mean I got a bunch of backlash from it, and it I genuinely didn't feel like I came across coldhearted. It was just purely out of frustration because I did feel like we ended on mutual terms, but it just kind of came out of nowhere and they didn't really get to show the part where which is going back and forth between the conversation. It just kind of showed me being very blunt and I don't want to say like mean, but just not having a lot of respect for Tyler and he was just kind of hurting. So watching that back, like I definitely was like, wow, like I wish we had to have this conversation before it got to this point. So that conversation out with Tyler, that was the first time you guys really aired ending out since breaking up. Yeah. Yeah, So how did you feel going into that knowing that we're gonna be facing that Excuse me that conversation. Were you nervous? What was what was the headspace of Brittany going into that? Um, I mean I was definitely excited to see him. I think I come on the stage and I'm smiling, but you know, five seconds later, I'm like sad, straight face, just because I didn't realize like how hurt he was. But you know, I was kind of confused by it because the way it kind of went down. He had said, like, you know, we're both attractive, people will both like be just okay, you weren't single that long ago, and like that's where I was just like okay, Like we're we're good, but yeah, I guess, I guess not so okay. So take us back to you two leaving Paradise together. Right we saw you get in the van. You still were in a relationship. What was the relationship like right after Paradise? Did you too talk a lot? I think you would either you were tired, mentioned you had visited each other in Jersey and I think in Chicago. Correct, Yeah, And it was amazing. You know, there's just like those two days where you don't have your phone before you get transitioned into the real world. And I was just sitting there and I was like, this doesn't even feel real, Like I hope that he like still likes me, even how you two couldn't even be together during those two Yeah, I know what we gotta do, Like, um, you could like do like an overnight stay, which we did. But I was just so like, oh my gosh, I can't believe we're actually doing this, Like it's actually happening. We're gonna meet each other, it's like families and friends. Because we talked so much about it on the beach, so having that be a reality was just really cool to me. And we did like immediately after I went to Jersey for the fourth July and we like spent an entire week together. And then right after he was like, I've never been to a clubs game, So I took to Cubs game and we did all of that in Chicago before his season like really started airing. But yeah, I just felt like everything really did happen so fast. So after we met each other's families and friends, I kind of like had some serious conversations with him, you know, like where do you see yourself in five years? Like, you know, like the really like are we going to make the jump and move into like the same city or we're going to continue doing long distance. And after we had a few conversations, I kind of expressed him that I needed a break, but that never really happened. So I just so, what specific in those conversations was the turning point where you have this rocking mountain high coming off in paradise, you entered the real world and then things don't necessarily add up. At what point were you aware that this might not be your person? Um? You know, I was asking questions just about like his values and goals and dreams, and you know, I just really didn't see our aligning at all. Like I feel like whatever I said to him, he was just kind of reiterating that. And I really wanted him to just like have his own like goals and dreams, and I want him to be his own person because I'm a very independent person and I need the person i'm with to be the same when we just grow together. I don't want to like you know, morph into one and like just you know. So, yeah, I just feel like when I asked him to have like a day to kind of process everything and he like didn't respect that, that's when it kind of started like chipping away at me. And I kind of just knew my answer at that point. But yeah, so you had then you came to this decision of Okay, we need to just take a break, like I just need some time, some space in that In that moment, were you hoping like, Okay, hopefully Harrow respected, Hopefully we'll take a beat and you know, I'll have some time to think about like what I truly want will have a conversation. Was it in that time that he when you say, I guess he didn't respect it. And I want you to be able to have the floor to give your side, because we didn't see that at three unions? So did he just continue to constantly reach out? Like what what did that all look like? Yeah? So I feel like a lot of people have been, you know, saying like, oh, he was double texting her, he's a stage five clinger. But like when you're in love with someone, that shouldn't matter. I will text someone like all day long, and like, I'll have no problem double texting. But it was the fact that I asked him just to have a little bit of space for a second, just because we did paradise, we went to Jersey, but once to Chicago was just like NonStop hanging out with each other and like being like with each other all the time too, just like I really wanted to have that opportunity to be like, okay, just because he's a great person, is see my person. So when I you know, had that conversation with him a few hours later, just you know, sending snapchats like Instagram, dms and the like, asked me to have a conversation over the phone. So you know, I wanted it to like work out and maybe just be able to have the opportunity to like miss him. But when I didn't get that. It just kind of really was hard for me to like overcome that. I will say, I'll be people want to say this. It is slightly unattractive when somebody doesn't respect your wishes. And one of the the things I'll say to Brittany, what I'm hearing and what we've seen on the screen is you are so consistent in protecting your own headspace and your own energy and your own just inner good will that it's commendable and it's something going back to the example of people sending disrespectful comments block I am overwhelmed here, I'm just going to deactivate this. I'm all alone this relationship. Let me walk away for a second. And to have someone who demonstrates that level of consistent it's actually really cool to see. So I'm sorry things went down that the way that they did. Well, I'm glad to hear a first hand that you've been able to cultivate a skill set to really deal with whatever comes your way. Yeah, oh sorry, keep thank you. I appreciate. But do you do you wish at any point things would have been handled a little differently or perhaps more directly where you're like, hey, I need some time, give me like, for example, three days or a week, like do you did you ever directly say that or were you ever like, Hey, I'm going to get back to you in a week, let's have this conversation over the phone or face him at that point. Yeah, yeah, I just kind of explained to him. I was like, I need like a day or two. I didn't really want to like give like a dead at timeline, but I you know, when he called me the next day, he basically explained that, you know, in his past, someone did the same thing where they asked for a break and they didn't talk to him for a couple of weeks, and I explained it anim I was like, I'm not that person. I just genuinely would like to kind of process my thoughts and my feelings and really like think about this relationship. So yeah, I mean I wish there was more of a direct communication on both our ends, because if I was feeling not confident in the relationship, I should have just been more direct with him. But he is such a sweet and nice guy that I feel like I always kind of got sidetracked whenever I talked to him. But yeah, I mean I just looking back, I mean I didn't really know what to do in the situation, and like, I just really didn't want to waste like either of our time or energies on some thing. I didn't feel confident in this early on in the relationship because I think we're only together for like a month collectively. So going into then the finale, you and your mind thought you had this conversation. I'm assuming you thought you were both on the same page of we weren't until this person. We've ended things, we're going our separate ways. So walking into that, then, did you expect this conversation to go down as it did or did you see it taking a completely left turn once you got out there and actually started talking to Tyler again. I thought it was going to be like a mutual type of conversation because when I first get out there, that's just kind of how it was. They're like, you know, Tyler said his side of the story, can you explain yours? And I was just like, you know, the transition between paradise to the real world is so incredibly hard, and you really have so many other factors that play into relationship. I just didn't see our lives aligning. So we broke up shortly after, and yeah, I looking back, it was just it came across really badly. But I definitely thought we were like mutual going into it, So yeah, I think to talk to him since and airything out directly. Yeah, you know, I texted him like immediately once I got my phone. I was like, hey, like, I didn't know you felt this way. I really wish we could have had this conversation prior to the reunion, just because I didn't know your like your thoughts or anything. But yeah, he didn't respond for a few days. But that's the thing is when I texted him before, I was just like, how are you doing? And I was like damn. Three times. I was like, Okay, maybe he just wants space. You know, I was just assuming that just because he's not responding. I don't want to like keep messaging him and like him just being annoyed, because when you end a relationship, like I don't know, different people have different ways of they could either check up on their person or just completely like cut ties, and I feel like, I don't know. I guess the way I'm wired is I just don't really keep going back to the relationship. I guess, Yeah, you ended it for a reason and you have to stick with that. It's like, if you're continuing to talk, then where does that leave you both? Yeah, and that's the thing is a lot of people kind of sent me a lot of hate for doing it over FaceTime. But when you only dated someone for like a month and a half, you live long distance and everything, I just don't really know the way you're supposed to go about it, Like what do you guys think, Like I don't, I don't know what I would do or something like that. What was it said that you were in Italy? Did I hear that somewhere? You were in Italy when you FaceTime them and it was there? You know, I was actually in London with my friend and I literally was like, I mean, she was like in the bathroom at the time, but I was like in my hotel room, And it was right when I got to London. I was like probably like two days after I got there. But it got misconstrued into she was flying everywhere and then you know, at the end of her trip like decided to FaceTime and break up with me. I was blindsided. So yeah, that's it was a little bit confusing too, where this whole like Italian Fiasco came out. Well, what was that moment for you seeing in a hotel room in London right before you're about to FaceTime room where you're just like, oh, shoot, this needs to happen, or what was going through your mind? We kind of got into like a disagreement because he was filming the mentel all and he invited me to come to California after it was going to be done airing. But my mom had her birthday that weekend, so I told him I couldn't. And you know, my answer with like with the relationship, as I didn't, I wasn't fully there anymore. I like knew my answer at that point, and I just needed to kind of get away from everything. I feel like I didn't really get an opportunity to kind of decompress. So immediately I was just like, I'm I'm going, I'm booking a trip to London. I just need to get away for sack and like actually have a vacation from the vacation because Paradise really it's not a vacation whatsoever. Yeah, you're put to work for sure, yes, but yeah, I mean I you know, he just got back from California and I texted him and I was just like, oh, how was California? And he's like, I'm thinking about moving there and I was like, you know, it's definitely your vibe. And he's like, how's London And I was just like, yeah, it's I mean I've only been here for like twenty four hours or forty eight hours at that time. It's like it's great. And he kind of said something like, uh, you know, you should just move there for the year, like live your life or something like that, and I was just kind of like, okay, is everything okay? Liked he told you to move to London for the year, yeah, because I was just like, oh, it's it's great, Like I could so see myself living here, and he's like, yeah, you should just live your life and like move there for the year. Is everything okay? And then that's kind of what initiated, like can we FaceTime? And then like had a probably an our conversation and it's just yeah, we kind of went in circles for a sac but then we ended up breaking up. I mean, I will say this like people have broken up in all sorts of ways, and I've lived through several of them that were recorded and not recorded. If you're dating somebody for a few weeks and it's not super serious and you live across the country, I think doing a FaceTime call, I would say it is a fair way to do it, right, Like, it's not like you two were engaged. I've known people on this show who have been on The Bachelor, Bacherette Paradise, who have broken up via text, people who were engaged who broke up in worse ways than this, So honestly, like, I know, people again are critical and are probably giving you shit for oh my god, she did it on FaceTime, but given the circumstances, I feel like it's just totally fair. Yeah. I mean people like said, like, you know, there was like a lack of respect, Like you guys said I love you and everything. But I feel like it would have been a little bit more shitty if I, you know, booked a trip to Jersey or if he came to Chicago. We spent the whole weekend together, and I was like, look, I am not feeling one hundred percent in this relationship. We should break up. I'm just gonna say you showed more time and patience with one FaceTime than other people who have been engaged on this show in the past have given their partners. So I feel like if I was like smart about this situation and if I was trying to like, you know, lead him on, I would have waited till after the reunion. But I'm just like I would never want to do that to somebody, and he is such a great guy, so I want to like give him the chance to meet other people and to do like what he needs to do in his path. But yeah, it's just in hindsight. Do you have any regrets in any ways that it went down? Um? I, knowing how he felt after, I wish I checked in I even though he didn't respond. I wish I kept, like, you know, trying to be like, hey, is everything okay, Like, you know, can we have another conversation. But I feel like that's just probably my only regret because I you know, some people are more sensitive than others and they need that, you know, clarity after a relationship is done. So I wish I did check up on him during that time and I didn't wait until after the reunion or during the reunion. I guess. Yeah, I mean, I hope just like having you on here to give your take say your piece and at least like, hopefully Tyler can hear, you know, like, oh I did wish I would have handled things a little bit differently. I hope that is maybe enough. And and not to say closure, because I don't think either of you two at this point probably need closure, but just at least something he can take from it. Is there anything that like in terms of the haters and the comments and people that were reaching out and saying just hateful, hurtful things to you like that you wish they would know or that you could say to them now just shout them down. You know, there's like two sides to every story, and you only see a small part of like a way bigger picture. But you know, just be nice, be like kind because you really don't know the entirety of the story. But regardless, I'm like, everyone's like, oh, well, she put herself in this position. I'm like, yeah, well I didn't expect to, you know, get like such hurtful comments of just you know, my physical attributes or whatever it may be. It's just people are lot mean are online. Yeah, it's a scary place. It really isn't, especially given the fact that everything is now at your fingertips. Making it so much easier to spew off anything you're thinking makes it very difficult. So okay, let's project forward off of the hard dramatic stuff and and talk about what's next for you. Are you currently dating anyone? Are you open to meeting somebody either? I'm not dating anyone like specifically, but yes, I I am open. I'm single right now, and I'm just probably not going to post about like that until everything kind of just errors out a little bit. But I'm definitely in this single dating realm and I would like to meet someone because the holiday is you know, they're they're cold, and I wish I had somebody. It's coffee season, baby, it is coffing season. Y'all got any eligible bachelors? ELI bachelors? Do you mean is there anyone in bachelination be interested in? Or was that in general? I don't like, I don't care if they're in the industry with Bachelor Nation or not. I'm just like, I'm trying to meet like a good person. The only independent, good person. The only person I would say from Bachelor Nation at this point in time that I would want to set any of my friends up with would be Rodney. Oh, Rodney's like a good friend. Yeah, oh yeah, Okay, really quits a good friend? Is there anyone else from perhaps Bachelor Nation that has caught your eye that you maybe didn't meet on the beach or that you did, that you would hope maybe there's still a chance or how about that's pressure on you if one person was to potentially hear this and slide into your DMS. Is there a certain person you'd want that to be. Um. I always joked about John Paul Jones because I'm like, I loved him, Um, but I'm like the reality of that situation would never happen. I mean, like he has no idea. I don't think he's like affiliated with the franchise at all. Um. But you know, there's someone in Chicago that I definitely I am interested in, but from Bachelor We're gonna leave that to to uh guessing. Wait, oh, okay, is it some from Chicago who was on the beach with you this summer who you might have had Andrew? Was it Andrew? Are we getting some tea right now? No? No, no, no, I mean we're just we're friends. But I mean I think that if something came from it, it would be really cool because I do enjoy hanging out with him, and he's and you already know how he kisses, so like that's done. To be fair. If I had a shortlist of potential couples that I want to double date with, you and Andrew would be close to the top. So just just throwing out there for our own selves. We would have the best double date ever, I promise, But I wouldn't be all don't get my hopes up now, damn it. Now, I'm just gonna want to manifest this to make this happen. I love it. Andrew. I love him so much. He's like a little brother. No, but we're just we're just good friends right now, and like there's no pressure, and that's what I love about, like not having like cameras around or anything because we're just enjoying like our time together. But be yourselves and live your lives like you would away from it all. That's huge exactly and no pressure. But yeah, we'd be devastated. Now, don't break records, bratty m Okay, so would you in the future next summer ever? Ever consider going on Paradise again? Um? You know. In a lot of my interviews, I was like, absolutely not. But you know, if if there was I don't know, I don't know if I would like if there was a good like if I knew someone that was going that I really wanted to meet, then absolutely, But I just had I feel like I had a good run and I had a really good rewrite of my story and I wouldn't want to come back and for all that to be forgotten. Because a lot of people were like, she faked the whole season, and I'm like, I really didn't. But no, I feel like you came across throughout everything that we saw Lace's viewers like very real, like very true to who you are. And that's one thing I will say. I actually there was so when Thomas and I were in Paradise last Dude, there was a moment where, you know, everyone kind of talks like who's going to come down on the beach? What girls are they bringing in this week? We for a moment thought that you might come down those steps, and I was like, quite honestly, I would love to meet her. I would love to have her on I think she got the very shitty short end of this stick on Matt season. I thought it was horrible and I was like, I would love for her to have a new, better memory of this franchise and and kind of rewrite your story as you said, And I think you did just that, and it was it was so fun watching you. Yeah, I mean, it would have been so sick to have been on the beach with you the previous summer. But honestly, I'm really glad I waited just because I really, like my mental stayed at the time was not in the best realm. But yeah, yeah, I really needed time just to get away from everything. And like I didn't even post for a few months because I'm like, I just really wanted to get away. But yeah, I'm glad I waited because like coming into the beach with like a whole new mindset, not knowing a single person that was going to be there, and just like having a fresh start was amazing. Outside of that, do you have any advice for anyone else who might go down to the beach in the future. I think something that really helped me was I like came onto the beach sober so like a few months like before, like I just like wasn't drinking, and then when I came on, like it made me very in tune with all my thoughts and all like my motives. But you know, after the Pizza Pete day, I unfortunately had a glass of wine, so I think like went back again. But if you really want to completely be your most uphontic self and like get what you need out of the situation, which is obviously trying to find love, I feel like being sober definitely it definitely helped. It really helped me. Yeah, No, I love that though, just to go into a clear mind, what is it, clear eyes, clear heart, can't lose. Yeah, that kind of it's so hard. I mean it's just like it's a very easy way to you know, just bond with everyone. Like everyone like let's take a shot together. So like I would just be like, okay, wells can I have like a glass of water? And it was just it was definitely hard. But yeah, what we're gonna say, Thomas, So, now that Paradise is someone in your rearview and you're able to rewrite your future moving forward, what's next for you? I honestly, my lease ends in February, and I feel like the move is to go to la just because there's just a lot more opportunities I've tried to live in la before, but my landlord completely screwed me over, so I came back to Chicago. But I mean, I'm just I love Chicago and like I could live here for the rest of my life, but I really need like a change my twenties to be a very like pushing motivational time where I'm just taking risks and like trying new opportunities because I could always come back to all of this, but I love that. Yeah, do you have any plans for the holidays? Is all of your family still in the Midwest? Yeah, they're all in the Midwest. I don't really like. The only thing after the holidays is my friend. She's studying in Madrid for a little bit, so I'm gonna go there for a little get away. But yeah, it's gonna be weird not having my best run here anymore because she's like literally inseparable with me. So yeah, she leaves for Madrid, and then I think I'm gonna go visit her right away just to have a little VAK for the birthday. Oh that'll be fun. Yeah, good things look forward to. We're just celebrating here. The goal is I want to clear out the room and get a Christmas tree this week and then just start and celebrating a real one or a fake one. Yeahs fake Christmas trees. Oh okay, Yeah, I mean, you guys have new space, you gotta start putting some decorations or I don't know if we can see boxes. It's such a disaster that I'm afraid we're not going to be able to decorate. I have so much Christmas ship like in storage. I'm like, I need to be able to put it out. But yeah, I don't know. We'll just it'll be super chill this year. We'll spend time with his family, and then we have a lot of traveling, a lot of weddings next year. So I'm I'm like, let's just take December chill, relax, and then next year we'll be crazy tone again. Yeah. But Brittany, before we let you go, we have to get into two things. So, because this is kind of a weird, crazy week and schedules were all over the place, I'm just going to share a resource for all of our listeners. And I also, as I'm saying this, I realized I didn't screenshot and share my resource from last week, So I will do that right after this podcast, but also on top of that one that I will repost. So I pulled this one because it's actually come across in a couple of different articles that I've read, and I want to start it. It's a I believe it's a five or six part audio series called sixteen nineteen, and I think this would be very fitting because Thomas and I a couple of weeks ago went and saw Hamilton, and as entertaining and lovely and wonderful as that evening was, I mean, it obviously has to do with our history, and there's a lot just even from seeing that Broadway play that I either didn't remember from history class back in the day, or that I wasn't even taught and learned. And I think that's the case with a lot of schools around the country. And so this one gets into it's hosted her name is Nicole Hannah Jones, but it basically examines American history at the start of our country and it really gets into slavery. And so each episode is about thirty to forty minutes. They're quick, quick listens and very informative. So it's called sixteen nineteen. So that is the resource of the week and again I will share that on my Instagram for anyone who needs to find it. And now, as you all know, we always share our rose and thorn, and so Brittany, usually we do it just for like a specific episode that our guests is on, but because you lived all of Paradise and watched it all back, I would love for you to share your rose and thorn from your entire experience throughout these past couple months. There was a date but basically my producer and I I hadn't listened to music for a few weeks and it was the middle of June and he was like, what song do you want to listen to? So I was like heat Waves by Glass Animals and we were just screaming it in the car. And that was probably one of the most like liberating, best nights of my life because I just completely forgot where I was and it actually felt like I was in Paradise at the moment. Biggest thorn probably split week, just because I didn't realize like how much I cried, and it's just so icky to watch backs. Everyone's like, how are they feeling all these emotions? For guys they just met like a few days ago. I mean, yeah, that was itchy. Yeah, I can't imagine. I would Baroness is crazy and stressful enough that I can't imagine let me through that like and having to be an enjoyable experience. Yeah, I mean they thankfully they cut a lot of cringing moments that I remember doing. So grateful for that because I'm like, god, just cringe moments. I mean when Aaron came down, he was someone I really wanted to meet. So they were like doing things like, oh, like, who do you want to meet? And I was like Aaron. They're like, who do you want to kiss? More? Aaron or James. I was like Aaron. I was like, oh God, So thank god they yeah heard that all out or they didn't air it out, but yeah, oh my gosh. Well, Brittie, it has been so fun having you. I know that I hope that this was a safe space where you could feel like again, you can give your take on the situation, kind of lay out what actually went down post paradise a bit more for viewers and listeners to just back off a bit and to realize everyone has a different story, a different way of handling things, and you're just doing your best. We were very happy to talk to you today. You're somebody who we've wanted for a while. Well, I really appreciate you guys have having me today. I mean, I've just been definitely in my head about everything, so I really just appreciate having the moment to kind of air everything out and kind of say my side of things. Definitely not here to you know, shame anyone or to bash anyone. I would just like, I'm really happy I got to tell my side. So yeah, well thanks Brittany. Now go relax, pop open a bottle of the bubbles I sent you, just chill and yeah, enjoy the rest of your week. Thank you you too well. Britney's lovely. Yeah, I said it to her directly. I'll say it again here. I am blown away with her levels of consistency and protecting her own mental space. As crazy as this world can be, she's doing a great job of just reserving that love for herself and allowing things that she's going to allow and stepping away from things she's willing to step away from that's hard to do. So are a break from social media, I think is a good idea. Honestly, like everyone coming off the show should do it just for a hot second at least. I really liked how she said towards the end there when she was talking about potentially moving to La like her twenties are for pushing herself and getting uncomfortable and trying new things. And I think that's such a great mentality. It's so smart. I think it's something that we could all try to do more of, definitely, And so yeah, she has been someone who we've wanted on the podcast for a while. I've really liked her throughout this season and I'm so we have actually got to see more of her on Paradise this season, kind of as her redemption story. So it was great having her on. Huge thank you to Brittany Tommy, A huge thank you to you, my love bug, for coming on in a pinch of the moment, last minute here. I so appreciate it. You're the best. Before you got on, I did say how much I love you and how perfect you were in that. You're just somebody so reliable, So thank you. We are record of the episode, bab, You'll got to butter me up, but I'll take it. I don't know, I really do. I just appreciate you so much, so thank you for joining me again. Thank you for happy our listeners. Yeah yeah, and huge thank you to all of our Happy Hour peeps out there and everyone. I have to say. They are currently casting for men to date our next bachelorettes. I have no idea who that is going to be. 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