TGI – Episode 309 “The Last Temptation of Cory”

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Speaker 1: So I had a realization and came to a conclusion. Recently, we have been doing our amazing live shows and touring the country, and we also do conventions, and at a lot of these places, we step off the plane and we make it to baggage claim, and at baggage claim there will be what they call like autograph hounds. They're waiting for us. They're people who have headshots of us or Funko pops or whatever it is they have that they want us to sign, and they have a bunch of them, usually like no more than I mean no less than like three at a time, sometimes as many as ten, and they'll try to get you to sign as many of them as you want. And unlike a normal fan or someone who you know I run into out on the street somewhere or at a restaurant or at the airport just randomly, these are not people I'm casually bumping into. These are people who have followed our schedule, known when when about we are flying in, and have done some sort of research to figure out which flight we are on, which airline we are on. Because they were stitchings which hotel we're staying it. Well, that's what happened recently. I walked in to check into one of our hotels and Will was with me, and the woman behind the desk said, Hi, just wanted to let you know some people were calling asking for you here, and it was not a family member of mine. Everybody would have, you know, checked in with me on my cell phone. But so they call around to hotels to figure out if they can get information with about where you're staying, and then they wait for you there. In the past, I have kind of begrudgingly and maybe not with the most friendly of attitudes. I have signed those pictures for people. I'll sometimes even come right out and say, like, how did you know I was going to be on Delta? Like that? It just feels a little weird.

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Speaker 2: It feels a little itchy, but it's also I think there's also usually you can tell that that they're doing it for money. It's like a job. They're going because they like your work, right, it's about it.

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Speaker 1: They aren't even kind to be honest most time.

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Speaker 2: Or even worse. I've had them be like I'm a huge fan, and I'm like, are you because you have like seventy photographs of me you've printed out along with seventy other people, you know, like this is you're just okay, it's a weird it's a weird interaction.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird interaction. And I've normally done it, and you know, truthfully, when we go for conventions, they actually tell us not to do it because the conventions spend quite a bit of money. It's flying us out there to you know, sign autographs for people who are going to the event, and that's how the convention makes money. So if we're just signing things for people when they've decided to stand outside the airport, it loses money. So they asked us not to do it. I have in the past done it before this last time when people were in our hotel. It was at the they had called around figured out which hotel we were staying in, and then at the end of our live show, it was after it was around midnight, I walked into the lobby of the hotel and they were just sitting in the lobby of the hotel. And because they were sitting in the lobby of the hotel, I thought they were not autograph seekers. I thought they must be people who were staying at the hotel. And I walked in just very relaxed, and then they jumped up and ripped out autographs and I just I said no. I said, I'm sorry, no, this feels very weird to me. They were like blocking my entrance to the elevator to get to my room, and I hit a point. I'm not going to do it anymore. I'm going to say no, and I'm going to flat out tell them why I'm saying no. The fact that I have continued to sign them is encouraging the behavior. They know if they wait for us outside the airport, we will sign them. Even if we say this feels weird, we do do it. So I just want everyone to know I am not going to do it anymore, and I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Say I'm kind of with you.

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Speaker 1: I argue, this feels invasive to me. It feels it makes me uncomfortable, and it makes me feel unsafe. That is absolutely how I feel, and I don't want to encourage the behavior anymore. If I run into you anywhere anywhere, that is random. This does not apply to true fans of our show or the podcast or anything. If I run into you, I want you to come up and say hello. I want you to come up and give me a hug, I will sign something for you. I will take a selfie with you. Absolutely, But autograph seekers who are kind of stalking our locations, waiting for us outside of our hotels, or waiting for us at the in baggage claim of airports, I'm no longer doing it. It makes me feel very uncomfortable, and I don't want to continue the I don't want to encourage the behavior.

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Speaker 2: So I thought it was funny.

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Speaker 3: We got into the hotel after the live show and Danielle and I are walking in and all the autograph hounds are there, and daniel disappear. It's like it was like there was a Danielle shaped hole in the wall, like she disappeared, and then it was just me by myself, Like, hey, Danielle, were gonna, oh okay, I'm just here by myself.

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Speaker 1: Did you get to the left?

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Speaker 2: No, we were talking about the last hotel in Royal No.

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Speaker 3: I just went in the door and then I went to the right where I didn't know what they were doing, and then a bunch of people were like there and then I always like, I'm I'm a people pleaser, so I always like to just make people happy, and I also hate confrontations, so I'm like and im.

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Speaker 2: And they play on that too, because I've had con I've been waiting out of here for an hour, and I didn't ask you too well.

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Speaker 3: Chicago's the worst because Chicago they buy tickets to the flights and so they are waiting for you when you get off of your plane.

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Speaker 1: They're not even in the actually ticket they don't use.

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Speaker 2: They do.

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Speaker 3: And there was so the last time I went for C two E two, which is a wonderful convention, there was maybe not exaggerating, ten people waiting when I got off the plane, and both there all their arms on both sides were filled with batterings on one side and then bat masks on the other side, which they wanted to me. And I must have signed one hundred and fifty autographs five feet off.

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Speaker 2: Of the plane, which makes a lot of money for me, it does.

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Speaker 3: And after a while, and then the thing was I was flying home, like I ended up staying in Chicago extra days and then flying home two days later to Connecticut, not even back to la and they were waiting at my Connecticut flight at eleven o'clock at night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they And I was like, how did you even know I was doing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this. I've only had it proven once where when I was dating Lance, someone knew that Lance and I were taking a flight to Mississippi on like you know, when we went around Christmas. And I don't remember how I found out, but I found out because one of the girl's moms worked for Delta and actually just told her daughter that our names were in the system for this particular flight. And I suspect there there is somebody on the inside of the airlines who either gets a cut of these autographs that they make or or just enjoys giving these tips. But that tells people when and where we're coming from. So I don't want it to be a surprise to anyone. And you, obviously will and writer are allowed to do whatever you'd like. I have just made a decision for myself. It will make me feel better to say it out loud. I also don't enjoy confrontation. I don't like to let people down, but I am not going to do it anymore. It makes me what.

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Speaker 2: About what about like outside of a live show, like when we just walk out of the theater, because I feel weird about that because we've done meet and greets. Like, the whole point is that we've said, this is the time if you want to meet us, if you want to take a picture with us, and we will do this at a certain time, and we allow a certain amount of tickets, and when that time is over, I want to go home, like I wanted to show the people that paid to be there. That's the other thing is it feels like, you know, and and then for these people, they're not really fans, they're just this is just like the way to make money for them. Yeah. I mean, I've always had the rule that I would only sign one per person and that sort of you know, and then they still give me crap about that. I'd also be like, come on, just three more, you know, and I end up feeling bad because I am a people pleaser too, and I'm like, I'm with you, Danielle. I kind of feel like, just say, if you.

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Speaker 3: Both decide to say no, I won't I won't sign to me either, because then you're like, you're then looking cool, while the other two people you're with in the show kind of looked like jerks. And I would never do that. So if the two of you are like, we're not signing, then I will stand in solidarity and also say that I won't sign.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the fair way to do it.

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Speaker 1: It absolutely makes me feel uncomfortable. I feel violated. When those people were inside the lobby of our hotel somewhat blocking, but.

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Speaker 2: They found my van. Guys, they found my van because you because Jensen, we took a photo when you first met each other in Minneapolis. We all took a photo outside of the van and it showed on Instagram it that it said the street name in the background. And so they were waiting at my van when I went back with my family to go back after we after we after, and I was like whoa. And then they followed me because I said no got on my van because I was like with my son and my wife, I'm like no, no, no, this is I am not on that. And then they followed us to the hotel and pounced there and I.

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Speaker 3: Was, oh, man, yeah, we had people at all the hotels too, And again it's it's it's it is. It's such a strange dichotomy because true fans, like the fans are the best, yes, and we've now we would never say no to a fan coming up being like, can I take a selfie with you?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm a huge fan of the show. We would never say no.

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Speaker 1: Who were doing that? Who are actually doing the stalking material?

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Speaker 2: Are there the autograph secret?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So anyway, stand with you during pre show chatter. But I did have to say it because again going with for the people pleaserness, I don't I don't want anybody to be surprised. Surprises are out.

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Speaker 3: Done done so and I didn't know that whole thing about you and Lance and like that somebody at Delta was there.

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Speaker 1: That's great, So I suspect that's not like the only time that's happen. And by the way, if they ever got caught, they would be in.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure that I's fired. Yeah, yeah, so much trouble.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle no autograficial right or.

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Speaker 2: Strong, and I'm wilfredll.

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Speaker 1: Orlando. In less than a week, we are going to be in your city. We cannot wait. Tony Quinn is joining us. Also, if you haven't heard, we just announced ten additional city stops, So check out Podmeets worldshow dot com so you can see all the cities and we have less than one hundred tickets left for Orlando in less than a week. We're going to be there. See you then. Welcome to this episode of Pod Meets World. We are recapping Season three, episode nine, The Last Temptation of Corey. It originally aired December first, nineteen ninety five. The synopsis is that Corey starts to enjoy all the attention he gets from a girls now that he and Tapanga are an item. However, things get a little out of hand when Missy Robinson kisses him at a party. Meanwhile, Eric buys some baseball memorabilia hoping to make a fortune, and Feene preps for a charity walkathon. It was directed by David Traynor. It was written by Susan Myers and Judy Tole.

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Speaker 2: Judy was one of our staff writers.

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Speaker 3: She was an absolutely wonderful woman, a great writer and incredible comedian and has since passed away. I think she had I think she had skin cancer. She was good friends with a lot of incredible comedians. She ended up being on I want to say it was Curby Your Enthusiasm or one of these other shows. I mean. She was like a legit stand up and writer and was like and absolutely she was. She and I used to sit and talk all the time. She was really wonderful. And I found out years later I was doing a.

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Speaker 2: Show called go Fish. I think it was GoFish, I forget no excuse me.

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Speaker 3: I did a pilot called Jack's House and the I walked into the producer's house and she had a picture of her with Judy and I was like, oh, you know, Judy, when's the last time you talked to her? And She's like, she passed away several years ago, and I had no idea. It was really sad. So, yeah, she was Judy told was awesome. She was with us for a while. Yeah, she was great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah she Will. She had a Sex in the City episode dedicated in her name as well, and she did appear on Curb and she wrote for Sex and the Cities.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was really funny, like legitimately, she.

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Speaker 3: Was really she was. One of her best friends was Kathy Griffin. Oh wow, so yeah they were. They were together quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: This episode is some guest stars Elizabeth Harnwaugh as Missy Robinson, best known as Will's co star and the infamous My Date with the President's.

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Speaker 2: Not familiar with her her work. No, no at all.

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Speaker 1: You don't know her.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I never knew this connection. Really, I've never seen my date with the President's daughter and so yeah, I was texting with Jensen earlier and he mentioned that. I was like, whoa, Oh, I didn't know that. So you've never seen my date with President's daughter either of us.

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Speaker 3: What. No, I've also never seen double I've seen I've seen all your work because I love you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we were required to for Podme's World. No, I've seen Time Switch. You had. Of course, I'd seen Summertimes Switch several times. I had seen it several times.

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Speaker 3: I am the vice president of the Southern California Summer or Summertime Switch Fan Club.

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Speaker 2: I'm not president, I'm vice president. And and yes, I've seen all your work. So whatever.

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Speaker 1: Well. She would also go on to be Morgan Brody on over eighty episodes of CSI, and then Lindsay McKeon as Libby Harper. She was later a lead on Saved by the Bell The New Class as Katie Peterson, and then we have the Return of And.

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Speaker 2: She came back. She came back. Lindsay came back for the first Girlfriends Club, which is when Sean gets handcuffed to the thing by the ex girlfriends. So she's like one of Sean's ex's kind of randomly, but she's great. I remember because we saw her at at X whenever we did that years ago, and she was there, I guess maybe because of Saved by the Bell or something, and and I was with Michael Jacobs.

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Speaker 3: We were like, hey, that's she played Libby and we were like, she wasn't a friend of yours for some reason. I thought she was like a friend of yours in personal life writer, like, for some reason, I didn't know she was part of your crowd or.

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Speaker 2: Something like that. No, well, it was funny because when I saw her at ATX, we like hung out and we bonded and like, yeah, we got along. I don't remember if we hung out back. I might have been confusing with somebody else. Yeah, no, but but I definitely remember her and we got along great. And when I saw her ATX it was so cool to catch up with her. But I haven't seen her since then. That was what twenty thirteen something like that, So I haven't seen her since we got to get her on the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we have Brittany Murphy as Trainy. This is her second and final appearance on the show. And we have Andrew Margerian as the voice of Bagwell Bill Stratton as announcer. He had a long career here in la is the voice of the Rams and just about every sports talk station the city ever had, which I'm sure writers very familiar with. Not only does he love sports ball, but he loves sports rat.

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Speaker 2: Oh, It's like his favorite thing ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we jump into our recap. We're in the school hallway. Corey is on the phone with Tapanga, who is sick at home, and she says she'll be back by Monday. Corey says that Tapanga said she'd never get sick as long as she was taking that trout fluid. Topanga corrects him.

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Speaker 2: Then my first thought was to Danielle have finals this week?

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Speaker 1: I ride on here. I apparently had.

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Speaker 3: Finally, it's also perfectly coft, hair, wonderful and sitting up in bed, it's like, yeah, nothing sick.

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Speaker 2: I think you. Also, I think that we shot this right after the first episode of the season. Your tan uh. Brittany was in it. Yeah, she did two episodes back to back. If I remember, and we used the Topanga's bedroomsroom, which is my hair left hair. Yeah, so I think this was shot. This was the second episode we shot of the season.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Also my room, I don't know if you guys noticed, but there is a I at number four behind my head on top of some pictures, a full collage of really beautiful women and some men, and these look like maybe they're my victims and I'm a serial killer. It's the weirdest wall collage it is. It looks like I've been collecting pictures of women whose haircut I want, because there are like it's a bunch of close ups of really attractive women with like great shorter hair, and then there's like some pictures of couples on there, and then just a number four.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you went with you being the serial killer.

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Speaker 3: What if you're the only one that can solve the crime, right, maybe you're like more the detective and you're like nobody's put these things together.

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Speaker 2: Panga's on it to pang is on it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that makes more sense because it doesn't seem like she'd be a serial killer.

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Speaker 2: She's like she's going to catch Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She sure will, so Corey says he'll call her after his next period and then calls her topy. Everyone in the hallway OWZ and Coryell's drop dead We're in love, and then Sean clears it up that he doesn't mean the two.

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Speaker 2: Of them panic John Panick.

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Speaker 3: You know what, that is actually out of character for boy because they never they never referenced Sean being uncomfortable with anybody thinking that.

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Speaker 2: In fact, that other episode, I guess it was from second season, that was what kiss I was like the hand, well, your hand feels big, cares He never cared about that. No, it's such a it's such a dumb joke a character.

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Speaker 1: So Corey says he's not embarrassed about being in love because they do everything together. And then Libby Harper comes up to Corey and complements his shirt and he responds that under it, he's half naked.

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Speaker 2: Sean says a callback to like, we've done that joke.

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Speaker 1: Ross episode right. We love that idea. We love it that under your clothes you're naked. It's very funny, very funny about it. Writers. Sean says Corey was flirting with Libby Harper, but Corey says he was just being nice and girls like Libby don't flirt with him. Sean says women are watching Corey because he has the scent. Corey asks what the scent is, and Sean says, it's the scent of being unavailable and virgo they want him. A very funny joke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, very very briefly, because I've heard this is the case and it never happened to me.

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Speaker 2: Writer, did you notice women hitting on you more when you put on a wedding ring? Yeah? You did.

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Speaker 3: I never nothing, There's been no change. I didn't get hit on before, I don't get hit on now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was like so obvious, but like, I've definitely noticed in my life that when I'm in a relationship, women are more comfortable and flirty in general. Like, whenever I'm like really alone and sad and wanting women to hit on me, it doesn't happen. Let me put it that way, right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe be alone and sad to do with the partnered up factor.

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Speaker 2: It's the not taking care of yourself.

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Speaker 1: Sad and desperate women turns them when you're happy. Women actually being attracted to so that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's it's really it's it's so dumb to make it about like how women can sense that you're in a relationship. The truth is you're just comfortable and you're happy, and you're like quit the wedding ring, like they see that. There's I mean I did for a few years for a while, so I did. But yeah, no, I don't think it was ever because of that, Like, but I definitely have noticed that, like I'm more comfortable around women, and women more comfortable around you when you're not desperately trying to hit on them. Well, yeah, of course feels better.

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Speaker 3: You're already taken, so it's like that nothing could happen from this, so you're just kind of talking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, interesting, Corey says, it's not like Missy Robinson is just going to come flirt with him. And then, wouldn't you know it, Missy Robinson comes up to him and asks if he knows what time the sun sets. It's six fifty two, in case you were wondering. Corey gets nervous and looks to Shane, and then we're in Phoenie's classroom. Sean whispers to Corey that Missy is into Panga's seat. Corey shushes Sean as he's trying to pay attention, but Phoene calls out Corey to explain what he was saying. Corey has no idea. Phoene then calls on Sean, who says Franklin Roosevelt in the New Deal. Phoene grabs his chest in shock and says, dear Lord, he's right. Sean explains that's been his answer for two years, sooner or later it had to pay off.

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Speaker 2: It's a great beat, great beat. Did you guys notice too? This is like maybe the only time this has happened in the history of Boyby's world. There is Phoenie a hubbub going on at the beginning of the scene. Like, so, while I'm talking to Corey, he's getting here. Yes, Yeah, it's like they recorded bill generic hubbub hubbub And it's like that never happens in our show. It's usually like if the teacher's talking, they're just off camera, we don't hear them at all. But for whatever reason this episode, they decided to record some Phoenie dialogue.

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Speaker 1: He tality, yeah, a little bit over reality.

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Speaker 2: I love seeing Phoenie at the front of the class. I know, every time I see it, it just brings me right back. It's wonderful. It's where he belongs. I love it.

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Speaker 1: It is a really comfortable feeling to see him up there.

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Speaker 2: We have actually not had that many classroom scenes this whole season, I know, like we haven't had one of mister Turner scenes.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of classroom scenes, but not a lot of classroom teaching scenes.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: It's like walking in and having a scene about something or walking in the hallway and it's.

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Speaker 2: Not like sitting there and learning a lesson. You don't, right, The integration of like the book into that that is really first and second season. Yeah, it's starting related all by the wayside. Yeah, it absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: As class ends, Phoenie says everyone needs to pick a partner for their next assignment. Naturally, Corey and Sean partner up. Phoene stops them and tells them to spread the wealth. Sean says he has to do the project with his best friend until a girl asks him to partner up and Sean immediately ditches him for her. And then Trieny aka Brittany Murphy comes up to Corey saying tapanga is always her partner, and there are very few people who understand her. Triney says she can call to Panga at three in the morning and without saying a word to Panga knows it's her.

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Speaker 2: She's so good, She's so good. I don't love this scene though, I was something really Oh, I wanted her to be quirkier. Yeah, I mean, well, like what she's saying is funny, Like I love the joke of like I call you know, but like as a I don't know. I just I thought maybe she should be like eating something or drinking something or doing something. But she's like move constantly moving her body, and it's like, that's great.

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Speaker 1: I think you're constantly What you're bumping against is the fact that the last time we saw Trainy he was actually on a date with her, and there was none of you didn't pick up at all that he found her annoying. You you didn't get that he had a crush on her or anything, but there wasn't any sort of the Janitor bud Feeney relationship. Yes, I wanted her to be weirder or to go on for too long yet annoying, so that we can see him become annoyed instead of him just going I'm annoyed with her all the time, and I was being like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that about your relationship. But feel like they told us something about the relationship we missed but we didn't.

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Speaker 2: It also feels like Corey's kind of mean.

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Speaker 1: Look exactly what it is because we don't there. I would have loved for her to have a bunch of examples about like where if she if Triney could have been more like young Danielle, let me ask you a question, because here are my answers, and then just not shut up for like three minutes, and for him to be like trying to leave the whole time she's talking. I would love her, so, I mean, trust Oh I'm not I'm not gonna give Brittany Murphya. No, she's great. It was more about the writing.

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Speaker 2: It's more about the writing to me too, Yeah, it's about the character setup.

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Speaker 1: It's because she's wonderful. I mean later, when she's in the bedroom and she does that thing where she's like, I'm gonna stay for only one more hour. No nobody gets it's such a great So Triny hints that she wants to be Corey's partner, but he ignores her and walks out of the class. As he walks out into the hallway, Missy stops him to ask him to be her partner. Corey says he's going to do the project solo, and but Missy is still flirting and calls Corey funny and cute, and I just like to point out that Corey is doing the right ish thing here. He's suspected miss he's flirting with him. He says, no, I'm not going to be your partner. I'm gonna put this this boundary here and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to say the last time.

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Speaker 1: Right, But we'll talk about that. So he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: He says, I do like This is also the only moment where there's any indication of why she might like him, which is kind of nice, like it would be I would I would appreciate this episode a lot more if Corey or innocently was awesome to her in some way instead of just It seems like a lot of this episode is reconfirming this notion of the scent, like we're correct talking about without any rationalization of like what she is interested in about Corey.

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Speaker 1: No, Like the implication is that women want men who are taken because they're taken and some and that makes them feel better about themselves that they were able to steal a taken man.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's also there's it's it's it's the stereotypical woman showing disrespect to another woman, like not caring that she's in a relationship and I don't.

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Speaker 2: Care, and it's kind of it's like, Okay, I get where you're going. But it would have been so easy to make give her a really strong reason to like Corey, right, Like Corey is a funny guy. He's cute in his own way, and like he and the fact that he thinks of himself as unpopular and average, which we've clearly established from season one, is such a great thing for him to to just appreciate somebody thinking he's cool or funny, you know, Like Corey would so easily fall into of her situation like this if if a girl really did like him, I really did think he was. But instead she is like after this scene, after this couple lines, she is just on like seduction track, and it kind of is psychopathic. It's like, what is the motivation here? What does she want from him?

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Speaker 3: Other than like so is she also just trying to break up Corey into Panga.

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Speaker 2: That's the point.

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Speaker 1: He wants Corey, whether it's for a long time or not, he just wants.

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Speaker 2: But we don't know what. Yeah, we don't really know why, which is which I guess maybe is enough of an explanation. She just thinks Corey is hot. But I thought it would be cooler if if there was like a little just a little bit more of a reason. Like he said something in class, he says something here that.

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Speaker 3: Well, what you said it should have been what you said at the beginning, which is and Sean should have been the one to explain.

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Speaker 2: It's like, now that you're in a relationship.

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Speaker 3: You're comfortable and relaxed your hold, You're easier to be around.

00:26:22
Speaker 2: You don't not awkward, like when she fell on your face, like.

00:26:26
Speaker 1: Something like that when she came up to him and said, do you know when the sun sets? If? He had a witty response back to it, and and she giggled and was like, you're so funny if a little yeah, yeah, so I agree with you. So Cory says he's going to do the project solo. Then Feoemi walks by with Triney and says she still needs a partner, but Corey says he's the.

00:26:45
Speaker 2: Way he's holding her, She's just this like wild animal that he caught and it has to keep away from her. Oh god.

00:26:53
Speaker 1: He puts his arm around Missy to avoid having to work with Trainey, and Missy says Corey's girlfriend Topo Gigio, won't mind, and when Corey corrects her that her name is Tapanga, she says, whatever.

00:27:03
Speaker 2: This is where too comes from?

00:27:05
Speaker 1: Right?

00:27:05
Speaker 2: We've never heard this before? Which is it is a reference to something else, little.

00:27:10
Speaker 1: To a character on a Why can't I think.

00:27:13
Speaker 2: Of the name the Pumpet Show or something?

00:27:16
Speaker 1: No, like the Late showed Sullivan maybe maybe Ed Sullivan.

00:27:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was we caught we did those years. This is another one of those. We did this for years.

00:27:28
Speaker 1: So uh. Then we're in the school cafeteria. Corey walks over to sit next to Sean and is confused because Bertha told him his lunch was already paid for. Then Missy waves at Corey from another table, and Sean says he still doesn't realize the scent.

00:27:42
Speaker 2: And I also call him corns or.

00:27:46
Speaker 1: That we ever do it?

00:27:49
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:27:49
Speaker 1: I think so it comes up again.

00:27:52
Speaker 2: And my skin is horrible. I am so covered in make up this time.

00:28:00
Speaker 3: Real.

00:28:00
Speaker 2: First time I noticed was the first time I noticed it. I've never had an episode in this episode. It's so bad. Yeah, this one I saw. I didn't see it before, but this one. Haven't gotten on acutane yet.

00:28:11
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Missy calls to Corey again to say she saved him a seat. Corey says he's going to go over there, but just to talk about the project, and Sean tells him remember, and Corey finishes, be myself, and John says, no, be me me, good life, and then Feenie walks up to Turner and Williams. He's all buddy buddy and out of character. He's looking for pledges for a charity walkathon.

00:28:34
Speaker 2: I just, I mean, Bill Daniels at this point can do no wrong for me. He's my favorite part of the show. I had no idea we were on a TV show with a guy. Obviously I respected him, but now I'm like, I want to just watch the Phoenie show. Daniel. This scene just kills me. Every little line, every line reading I was like laughing, was perfect. He's perfect, and it's just so entertaining. You know, it's it's just it's its own show, like you know, it's its own show for the grown ups watching along with their kids to be like, oh, Phoene's putting one overs.

00:29:09
Speaker 3: And three of them together are so good too. It's a great dynamic, and yeah.

00:29:13
Speaker 1: Love, I know, I love the three of them together. Turner says he's already down for two dollars a mile, and Phoene says, janitor Bud paid twice as much, and he's a man of no fixed address, which I is brilliant.

00:29:26
Speaker 2: You gotta be bud Man.

00:29:27
Speaker 1: Eli agrees that Turner has to beat Bud, so he puts down five dollars a mile and then he leaves. Eli says he's always up for a good cause. And then Phoene's hand cramps up. He says, oh, and the weather gets damp, his joints swell up, like last year when his knee swelled up so badly he had to be a nose show to the walkathon. Eli says, look, man, why don't I just give you fifty dollars so you don't have to hurt yourself. But Phoene is trying to persuade him into donating more by saying he may not even be able to walk the whole thing. William says, you know what, I'll give you fifty dollars a mile. That way, if you only do one mile, you still get fifty bucks. And then Phoene smiles like a little devil.

00:30:05
Speaker 3: He's got the great smile too. That's a little like gotcha, gotcha.

00:30:09
Speaker 1: I love it. Missy wants Corey to feel how soft her skin is now that she's tried a new moisturizer, and he just touches her really quickly and says it reminds him of their history project. Missy questions why Corey thinks her skin reminds him of the Great Depression, and he says, no, just the end part when everyone gets all happy.

00:30:27
Speaker 2: It's a great lines. It's a great lines. It's funny.

00:30:30
Speaker 1: Corey asks about the project and Missy says she can't work on it this weekend because she has a party and that Corey should come and bring Sean. Notice she doesn't say you should bring to Penga. She says, bring Sean. Corey is hesitant and asks if she thinks they'll find time to talk about the Great Depression at the party, and she says it wouldn't be a party if we didn't. Now, this is the part where I guess you very easily could have just been.

00:31:06
Speaker 3: Like, no, no, no, I'm not I'm not going for me.

00:31:11
Speaker 2: It was the next scene with Tabanga when it was like, why is he rationalizing going to this? Why does he? And yet he somehow makes it and the whole show seems to make it her fault.

00:31:23
Speaker 1: I mean, she does sexually assault him, which we'll get to.

00:31:26
Speaker 2: I mean, she's like.

00:31:28
Speaker 3: But this is also I didn't think this was that big a deal because again, back back when we were at seventh grade, eighth grade, there'd be parties and it's like, even if you have a girlfriend or whatever, if she couldn't go, you'd still go because all your boys would be there.

00:31:40
Speaker 2: There'd be fifty people there. I mean, it wasn't a big deal. But he already knows that Missy's into it. At this point, it's become clear he's talked about it, and that he still chooses to go. It's like, right, and which is all fine, because that's the point of the story, right. I just wish Corey knew it, would acknowledge that he was into her, and that's why he's going. He chooses to go to the party, and it would have just been a little little easy wrinkle of him saying to Sean, we do kind of think Missy's she's she's so cool. I want to be around her. Now, do you love to see I didn't think. I didn't think.

00:32:18
Speaker 3: Like I think he's he's enamored with the idea that women actually want him. I don't think it's necessarily Missy. It's the idea that, wow, all of a sudden, I'm the average guy, but now women want me. And it's more being infatuated with that than with her as an actual person.

00:32:35
Speaker 2: I get. I wish he enjoyed her finding him funny and interesting more like you know, like especially in the scene in the basement. It would be so great if he's having a good time, like if he can't help himself because he's she's laughing at all of his jokes or his stories, and she's.

00:32:50
Speaker 1: Finding putting it on And it's nine o'clock.

00:32:55
Speaker 2: I stayed too late because I just got it makes sense.

00:32:59
Speaker 1: But no, you're right, you're right.

00:33:02
Speaker 2: This happened to me.

00:33:02
Speaker 3: By the way, this exact story happened to me, by the way, really exact story happened.

00:33:07
Speaker 2: You had a girlfriend and no, I was you in this situation.

00:33:11
Speaker 3: So my friend Mike at the time was had a girlfriend, but another girl liked him, and we were told there was a party. The two of us went and there was just two girls there. It was the girl that liked him and a girl that I had a crush on who did not like me at all. So they went often hooked up. But because they hooked up, the girl that I like actually kissed me until Mike walked in the hallway, and then she threw me across the room as if I weighed nothing, because she didn't want anyone to see that she had actually kissed me. So it was like I remember being next to her on the couch then being fourteen feet away in like a half a second.

00:33:52
Speaker 2: Did you undergo like a physical transformation from the age of fifteen to sixteen where you went from like the Phantom of the opera to who you are now? Dude, what you.

00:34:01
Speaker 3: Talk is if you were like this, I was the funny I was, but I was just I was the funny kind of a beautiful human being.

00:34:09
Speaker 2: Will there's like no point in your life where you weren't a beautiful human being. You have like do you have features? Beautiful human being? No, was chubby or the funniest human being I've ever met in all, that's what I was. I was the funny that's.

00:34:23
Speaker 1: What, funny, gorgeous guy. He was a funny, gorgeous white guy. He really had very.

00:34:29
Speaker 3: Was. I was overweight, I was. I was the chubby kid, the chubby funny kid.

00:34:34
Speaker 2: I was not. You know what I think it is. My my take is that you were gone a lot more than you think. No, I think you were not. You think of yourself as like having had a normal uh, like regular attendant, like regular school attendance. But you were not. At eleven, we were already going to New York. I just don't you think you're remembering it wrong. No, you're doing Nickelodeon shows.

00:34:58
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you're telling me I'm remembering my own life wrong.

00:35:01
Speaker 2: With my memory.

00:35:02
Speaker 3: I did all of don't you sit there during the summer, so I missed no school during doing don't just sit there?

00:35:08
Speaker 1: I missed, And I was like, you didn't think you were part of the community.

00:35:13
Speaker 2: I wish that were. I wish everything you're saying was was actually the case. It wasn't. I was just the funny kid that everyone was friends was. Maybe it was because you smelled, so they were all my friends smoked.

00:35:27
Speaker 3: No, I was the funny I was the funny, kind of chubby kid that just I was popular with girls in like the sixth and seventh grade and then eighth grade. Something. There was a weird power dynamic shift in eighth grade and all the kids that had friends were literally beaten up and then weren't part of the friend group anymore. So the start of high school, I had no friends none.

00:35:48
Speaker 2: It was weird.

00:35:48
Speaker 3: It was a really weird dynamic in my life. But all my friends say the same thing now when they look back and I, No, you were never there.

00:35:55
Speaker 2: No, I was there the whole time. No, you were the cool guy. Nope, wasn't the cool guy.

00:35:58
Speaker 3: So it's like they remember it the way you guys remember it, and I remember it the.

00:36:02
Speaker 1: Way and actually happening.

00:36:03
Speaker 2: We're all probably are the people who were there.

00:36:07
Speaker 1: Only Will Fernell, who's his own person from inside himself, Yes, the one we should trust.

00:36:13
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, I'm known for having a horrible memory.

00:36:17
Speaker 1: It's not about memory, It's about perception. Ah Dreamy walks up behind Corey, which scares him, and asks if he wants to go over to Tapanga's house after school. Corey acts very caught and says, do you think you're the only person who was thinking about poor sick to Panga? I love the girl, I'm thinking about her right now. Then he sits down with Missy and he pops back up saying he's thinking about her right now too, and he's gonna go over there and think about her some more. And then we're in the Matthew's kitchen slash living room. Corey tells Sean that he's going to the party and nothing will happen because he's his own person and doesn't care what anyone else thinks. Sean asks Corey where he's going as he walks into the living room, and Corey responds that he's going to run it by Tapanga, which I thought was funny. Hart Eric is holding a hammer into the Matthews family photo and asks Sean to take the picture while he puts a nail on the wall. Without flinching, he grabs the picture and walks right out the front door. Not so funny, No, no exchange between just like, God, it's awesome. Eric makes a hole in the wall when he tries to hammer a nail, but says it's a good that he's putting a picture up. Amy and Alan walk into the house.

00:37:26
Speaker 2: And hanging up anything in my house but exactly what I do, like, I never take the time to measure. I'm always like that looks about right, bomb, and then it's like completing the wrong space. So I have like four holes for everything hanging up in my house. Like you know, I'll do that occasionally, but oh my god, it's awful.

00:37:44
Speaker 1: Amy and Alan walk into the house and Alan says he had to wrestle Sean for their family picture. Eric hangs a picture of baseball of a baseball player and says with the money he'll be making, Alan will be able to buy himself a new family. Amy asks who the poor man with the swollen head in the picture is, and Eric says that man is going to be no college tuition and that man, ye Manel, our friend of the show, favorite writers, friend of the show, couldn't love him anymore.

00:38:13
Speaker 2: Wrote the famous scream episode That's right, Yeah.

00:38:16
Speaker 1: Eric says he's going to say one word. Baseball collectibles are hot. And then he says he paid two hundred macaroons for that photo of Teddy bean bag Bag. Well, Alan says that man is a bum and that picture is not worth two hundred dollars. But Eric says, Baggie is only two hit by pitches away from the major league record. Two more bean balls and they can all go to college.

00:38:39
Speaker 2: My favorite life college. What are you talking about? But you see with such confidence, exactly, bean balls. We all go to college.

00:38:48
Speaker 3: And if what you're saying is right, Rider, this makes total sense. I'm It's the second episode, so I'm comfortable it's like and then I lose.

00:38:57
Speaker 2: It for some reason for a couple episodes. But I was good here. This is okay. You were having fun, yes exactly.

00:39:03
Speaker 1: He asks who holds the record for getting hit in the head, and Alan says he's thinking Eric, thinking Eric prank cute, And then we're into Panga's room. Triny is telling Tapanga about the school project and that she couldn't find a partner, so she's doing it with Feenie. But Feenie also told her to never call again, which again, I would.

00:39:21
Speaker 2: Watch it and the whole show. Yeah, just Feenie and Triny by the way show show. Oh, I would love that them doing a project together on the Great Depression.

00:39:32
Speaker 1: Please, oh man, so funny. Corey walks in and isn't excited to see Triny, and Triny says, well, now that Corey is here, she's sure they don't want her hanging around, and Topega says oh, and then Triny immediately tells her, Okay, I'll stay, but only for one more hour. Corey looks unhappy and Triney explains she was just joking and no one gets me. It's so great, And as she walks out the door, this is the scene I remember the most. This is me too, isn't it fun?

00:39:58
Speaker 2: That's so funny in this scene. But I have the.

00:40:01
Speaker 1: Bedroom scene, Yeah, the bedroom scene of my Of all the scenes that I got to do with Britney Murphy in the two episodes, this is the scene I remember the most.

00:40:11
Speaker 2: Me too, And I wasn't in it for whatever reason. I think we were just all hanging out that I.

00:40:15
Speaker 1: Think we were all hanging out in the bedroom and there were Yeah, it was just comfortable. And I remember Britain.

00:40:20
Speaker 2: Well I saw her sitting on your bed. I was like, yes, now, because I didn't remember this set when we saw in the first episode. But when I saw her siting in the bed, I was like, that's the day. I remember hanging out during rehearsal and.

00:40:30
Speaker 1: Talking to her and her mom. Yeah weird too, so funny. Yeah, this was this is the moment. I was like, man, I really I really remember, and I think for me the blocking being so easy, I didn't have anything else to remember. I was just I just got to sit there and like talk to her and kind of enjoy her, which meant during rehearsal, any downtime we had, we were also just sitting there and talking. Yeah, So I think maybe that made it really memorable for me. So Tapega asks about Corey's day, which he says was uneventful. Corey says he got partnered up with a girl. Oh what's her name? Topanga already knows it's Missy because Trainey told her. Cory says she is kind of a stupid name, huh to Panga, and then he calls Missy a flake because all she could talk about is her party tonight, but Topanga says Trainy didn't mention a party. Cory says, not many people tell Treney about parties, which is a very funny line. Topega asks if he's going. Corey gaffaws that he's not going without Topanga. To Pega says he should go, and she seems like a real chill girlfriend.

00:41:29
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, yeah, go to a party. Well, where's the line where Topega doesn't say anything and he goes, huh.

00:41:36
Speaker 1: Before that, I'm going to party and she's the same thing.

00:41:41
Speaker 2: Like wait years a go and she doesn't, so he sort of forces it. Yeah, that's hysteric.

00:41:47
Speaker 1: It is so funny. Mission and then she says he can go. It's very very funny. Cory says he'll pick up ice cream for Topanga on his way home, and she says he doesn't need to do that, but if he insists, it should be organic rice milk ice cream. But if they don't have that, make it chunky monkey double fudge with Jimmy's.

00:42:06
Speaker 3: I don't know why I remember you during run throughs saying that all the time.

00:42:11
Speaker 1: We meet you funny.

00:42:15
Speaker 3: Too.

00:42:15
Speaker 1: I think they changed the name of the ice cream a million times?

00:42:20
Speaker 2: Is that what it was? That why I remember it?

00:42:22
Speaker 1: I remember there being we were all.

00:42:23
Speaker 2: Probably backstage, we were like it should be this we all had opinions, probably.

00:42:28
Speaker 1: Because I think we changed the name of it a bunch because I remember Michael it being very important to Michael that I think this may have been a similar flavor to like his wife's favorite ice cream flavor.

00:42:37
Speaker 2: Food with him was always a big thing.

00:42:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:42:39
Speaker 2: Food, yeah in here good hair, food and hair yeah yep.

00:42:44
Speaker 1: Corey says if he's not back by nine, they must be at war and assures Topanga he'll be back to Panga looks confused as Corey exits, I'm also confused about the at war reference.

00:42:53
Speaker 2: But I think it just means something so hard, something so horrible. But yes, So this is where I was like, what is what is Corey right going would go to this party?

00:43:06
Speaker 3: Right?

00:43:06
Speaker 2: Which I guess is you can't say it's just because he thinks it's a party, so he's just gonna have fun with his friends and a girl that likes him.

00:43:14
Speaker 3: But yeah, but then why then I don't get why he's playing it where it's like he's doing something wrong already. That's my that's in the writing where it's like if he thinks this is going to a party and his girlfriend is so chill, which she is it's like, why are you playing it like you're already because he likes he wants.

00:43:31
Speaker 2: To eat it too, right, I mean that's the whole thing, is that it's temptation and he and so I guess. I wish it was a little clearer that Corey likes she likes him, or that there is something there, even if it's just having the hots for one another physically. It would be nice for him to acknowledge that, especially by the end of the episode. Like, I really wish that at the end of this episode Corey was able to say, like, yeah.

00:43:57
Speaker 1: But I'm not blind.

00:43:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know. But instead it's like he's a victim.

00:44:01
Speaker 1: You know.

00:44:02
Speaker 2: The whole episode is like keeping him. It's the whole there's so much energy and twisting to make sure that Corey is innocent. Yeah, like like he didn't he didn't pick her as his partner. He got forced because it was either training or her. He didn't choose to go to a party where it was a makeout party because she, you know. And it's like this constant like it's always putting it on Missy that he's in this position, which minimizes the whole point of the episode, which is that he is tempted and it should just be that, like, yeah, he tried to. He thought he could maybe make out with a girl or or flirt with a girl at least and get away with it. And I don't know, I just think it was.

00:44:37
Speaker 1: I understand Will's point though, two, which is like to him, this kind of becomes a little bit of an experiment, which this is what Corey's wanted his entire the entire show, like I just want to be cool where girls want me to come to their party. And now Sean is saying, oh, you haven't realized that's happened. Now it's happened, because all you needed was a girlfriend. Now that you have when it's happened, and Corey's looking at of like there's no way, are you serious? And then I get invited. Let's go. Let's so he's wanting to take the experiment one step further, right, little maybe less about it being specifically Missy. If it were another cool girl, he would have been doing the same thing, like this has become what is this that's happened? Am I cool?

00:45:18
Speaker 3: Now? Yeah?

00:45:19
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, so.

00:45:20
Speaker 1: I can see I can see it from from that way, so uh. Then we are in Missy's house, new house alert but same basements, same basement, same basement, sa basement, close, got.

00:45:33
Speaker 2: The same market. Something happened with closets is a real powerful place. We keep coming back to him. It's crazy.

00:45:42
Speaker 1: Cory and Sean walk into Missy's basement, but no one is there except Missy and Libby. Sean asks if this is a surprise party and miss and Libby says kind of. Corey asks where everyone is, but Missy says, this is everyone surprise surprise. And then Corey and Sean are shocked. Shocked, and then we're in Missy's house. Continues, Missy says it's just the four of them. Corey turns to Sean and asks what they're going to do. Sean says he'll take Libby and Corey can dig Missy, but Corey reminds him he has a girlfriend named Tapanga. Libby starts flirting with Sean. I didn't know if she was whispering in your ear. She must be.

00:46:20
Speaker 3: I think she said like, let's go upstairs to the bedroom or something like that would be my guess. Yeah, there's nobody else here or.

00:46:25
Speaker 2: Something like that.

00:46:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh, Corey asks if he had anything to do with this, and Sean says no, but I did dream this once, except you weren't here.

00:46:35
Speaker 2: Great line.

00:46:36
Speaker 1: Corey says they need to stick together and stay strong, but Libby starts whispering in Sean's ear, and Corey tells him to go. Sean and Libby run upstairs away from the privacy of the basement.

00:46:48
Speaker 2: But again, I know parents aren't home.

00:46:50
Speaker 1: Find out later parents aren't. Yeah, but in the moment, my thought was, so you go upstairs where the parents are, because I thought parents were probably there. But okay. Missy says she's happy Corey is there and is looking for a compliment on her dress. Corey says his girlfriend to Panga has the same dress, but longer comes longer give a great line. Missy pulls Corey over to the couch to sit down, and Corey repeats lunchroom lady, lunchroom lady.

00:47:16
Speaker 2: Which is peak Ben Savage doing Adam Sandler. It's exactly what that is.

00:47:23
Speaker 3: That was Ben like the craft service table, and Ben in the classroom and Ben everywhere.

00:47:28
Speaker 2: That was Ben doing lady. So Adam Sandler for him, it's actually like an Adam Sandler wie because Adam Sandler has the lunchroom. Yeah, but that was just that was straight up Ben and he's doing it for this whole seat like this sort of baby talk.

00:47:44
Speaker 1: So Corey points out the deer heads on the wall, and Missy tells Corey not to worry because her dad has never shot a boy she liked. Corey questions if Missy likes him, and she says she does, at least what she knows about him, but she wants to know a lot more. She turns his face toward her by his chin and says she's going to look deep into his eyes until she learns it all. And then Corey starts talking about the day he was born in Jefferson Hospital. It was drizzling and he loved his blue.

00:48:08
Speaker 3: Blankie, and then the time dissolve where they've obviously been sitting there for a while and he's still talking, talking.

00:48:16
Speaker 1: But he's only caught her up to the fourth grade when he got the awful diagnosis about his flat feet. Missy cuts him off and says they should talk about what's going on now. Cory says, well, and not much is going on except the two of them sitting in this room with these heads. Missy wants to make it interesting, so she turns on music and starts to dance with Corey. Missy leans in to kiss Corey, but he puts his hand between them, so she kisses his hand and makes our second to the graduate reference by saying, Missy, you're trying to seduce me.

00:48:46
Speaker 2: Yep.

00:48:47
Speaker 1: So again Cory sees it coming and does the right thing by stopping it.

00:48:54
Speaker 2: He likes, that's still the wrong thing by even being in this basement at this.

00:48:58
Speaker 1: Point, right, yeah, even if you say I'm following through on this experiment about going to this party to see if I'm cool.

00:49:06
Speaker 2: The minute it was just the four of you, should you should bail?

00:49:10
Speaker 1: You need to bail. You cannot stick around, and they try to make it like, oh, I'm doing this for my friend Sean because Shawan's gonna go.

00:49:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, cause Shawn needs help with girls for some reason. Exactly now this is now Corey. Corey has officially crossed over to this is now your fault.

00:49:30
Speaker 1: Corey is participating in this.

00:49:31
Speaker 2: Which you know, if he likes Missy makes sense if you got the hotspurg girl you got and if she but you know, she's like, I want to look into your eyes and know it all again. It would be great if it was like I want to hear more like about actual cornus, like or that she thought that this was hysterical that he does this. I don't know, just but this also makes perfect She's on that one.

00:49:52
Speaker 3: Then why they change this episode in the airing order, because there's no way that the second episode there too together. He's already cheating on her. Yeah, it's like you can't, you can't have that. So they were like, why don't we hold that for it.

00:50:06
Speaker 2: Is like if you think about the first episode of the season and this, it is like full Corey to Panga story, you know, like and then we had to sort of go away from that for a while, do more of the Sean stuff, finish up the Sean Turner storylines and stuff, because it is really intense to come in third season. Like imagine if this was the second episode, that.

00:50:25
Speaker 3: Would be like nuts, He's already there together, He's already had the way.

00:50:30
Speaker 1: I still feel that way all right, nine episodes in and I'm like, already this relationship is clearly not good.

00:50:38
Speaker 2: Just unction hugely dysfunctional. The Jeene jacket scene in this I'm like, wow, this is it doesn't seem to be making anybody happy, definite.

00:50:49
Speaker 1: Corey is miser mearly unhappy and.

00:50:54
Speaker 2: Just yeah, pull pull pull, pull the shoot, pull the shoes, like.

00:50:58
Speaker 1: Begging him to talk nice slea to her and also not kiss other people for.

00:51:03
Speaker 2: People banking into her home. Yeah, there's flags. I brought you half your cat when I was young.

00:51:11
Speaker 1: I think I thought it was romantic and I'm so again we get the graduate reference. Missy Robinson, you're trying to seduce me, She says, well, she's not doing a very good job of it, since it's past nine and they're not even making out yet. More panics that it's past nine. He asks for a phone. She points to the court at home phone next to the couch, and he takes it into the closet to call to Panga. It is for sure the exact same closet as the seven.

00:51:33
Speaker 2: Minutes in exact same closet.

00:51:35
Speaker 1: He didn't even try to hide it. Cory says he's on his way to Chubbies to pick up to Pega's ice cream. To Panga asks how the party is, and he says, oh, there were a lot of no shows. As Missy comes into the closet closes, the door behind her, coming up right behind Corey.

00:51:48
Speaker 2: Phone doesn't ring, by the way, bad fact bad acting the phone. He's like, oh, usually parents have to answer. You can ask the terrible facting, you know. I also just wish, like when they're on the couch and even the dance, like why isn't Corey having any fun? Like he's he knows he's doing something wrong. I mean you should be. That's why he's there. Like if you were ever in this position, you would be having fun either getting.

00:52:20
Speaker 1: Well, you need to make a choice. You would either get the heck out of there because I'm not going to have fun because I'm doing something.

00:52:26
Speaker 2: Guilty, or I just feel like I'm doing it. Yeah, I'm She just want one where he's like, oh, I really like this. You know, she's laughing at me or I'm laughing at somebody. She said, like we're connecting and this is not good. Like but instead he's just miserable, miserable, miserable stopping her from kissing her, miserable. Oh my god, it's nine o'clock. It's like you were there.

00:52:48
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. They tried to make it seem like the only reason he stayed is because Sean was going to be with Libby, and so he's doing Libby's in a favor, like, oh, go away, you go be with Libby. I'll just drag this out and see what happens. So that's kind of what they're doing.

00:53:05
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, it could have been written to a little more.

00:53:07
Speaker 1: I think, But yeah, I think so too, Like he could have been like Sean, where is Sean? Like he can't leave because Sean's not there.

00:53:13
Speaker 2: He starts to leave and you hear me, yell, don't do it.

00:53:18
Speaker 1: Exactly. They could have played that up a little bit more. Ye, So Missy just assaults him. She starts nibbling on Corey's ear while he's still on the phone with Tapanga, and he starts singing, Oh Susanna, and he's giggling, trying not to make it obvious that he's being sexually assaulted. Corey hangs up, but Missy says he's not getting out because she is scary as hell and wants a kidnapping charge apparently, and then she kisses Cory. Oh god. Corey says he can't do this. He has a girlfriend, and even though Missy is very attractive, and then she hears her dad come home and she panics, saying he has to leave fast because she's not allowed to have boys over, and he says, she's very sensitive. Did you guys here?

00:54:00
Speaker 2: I could have heard it wrong. Was it a honk?

00:54:03
Speaker 1: Yes? I think it was like the car lonked okay, the locking of the car when your car, when your because I.

00:54:10
Speaker 2: Was like, okay, all right, that makes sense. The alarm, okay, I think.

00:54:16
Speaker 1: It's the I think it's he locked the quadrant and makes it like makes a horn, because we tell you have this discussion in our house as well.

00:54:22
Speaker 2: Okay.

00:54:23
Speaker 1: Cory asks how fast and she points to the heads on the wall and says faster, which is again a very funny line, funny joke. Corey sees both deer heads and then imagine his imagines his own head as a third. His head looks at him and tells.

00:54:37
Speaker 2: Him to get out, by the way. Do you think is Ben doing that?

00:54:42
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:54:43
Speaker 3: It is?

00:54:44
Speaker 1: I think so.

00:54:48
Speaker 2: Like that's one of those things that if you had shown me, I would have been like, what is like there was an episode of Boybet's World where Ben's head was on a thing. I would be like, I have no idea what this is, because you know, we we would have show like you know, oh yeah, and then never done it again. I wouldn't remember it. And yet I'm sure it's iconic for some people, like his head on that thing. Yeah for sure, I had no idea this ever happened.

00:55:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, me neither. Sean comes up behind Corey and Sean tells him there isn't a basement in town. He hasn't escaped. Mickey gives very detailed instructions about how to get out, and Corey says, I'm sensing you've done this before. And then we're in the Matthews living room. Eric is watching baseball for Baggie and tells Amy and Allan to come watch. Alan clarifies, so if he gets hit two more times, this picture becomes a priceless treasure, and Eric says, you're proud of me, very cute. Amy notices Bagwell is getting led to home plate and Eric explains, well, yeah, the last time he got hit, both his eyes swelled up.

00:55:46
Speaker 2: So disturbed though, is when the hit happens is your face you that's too or a complete psychopath? The gleam and pleasure in your eyes. I will die so he managed to be so happy and yet completely evil at this I was great.

00:56:16
Speaker 1: On the first pitch, Baggy gets hit by the ball and Eric is thrilled. Even though Baggy is still on the ground and Amy and Allen are cringing. The announcer says Baggy is requesting a microphone from the stretcher. Baggie says today he considers himself the stupidest man on the face of the earth, and then announces he quits baseball. And this is a reference to Lou Garrigg, who, when he retired said today, I consider myself the luckiest man on the faces of the earth. Yep, and Alan says, well, two hundred macaroons down the drain. Eric says, no way, mark my words that man plays baseball again or else. My name isn't Eric Neil Matthews. Amy says, that's not your middle name.

00:57:01
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite Eric moments. That's one of my favorite Eric moments ever?

00:57:05
Speaker 3: Is that?

00:57:06
Speaker 2: And that's the end of the storyline. Yeah, that's the button.

00:57:09
Speaker 3: Yeah that Eric's Neil and it ain't so is another one that that is it's a take off on Shoeless Joe Jackson when when he got caught cheating and it was a little kid going.

00:57:22
Speaker 2: Say say it ain't so, Joe, say it ain't so.

00:57:25
Speaker 3: So that's another Those are two old school baseball references. I've heard Neil was wrong, but don't they do Randall at one point too? Isn't it Eric Randall?

00:57:44
Speaker 2: Matthew? Sure it's on IMDb since the le Kyle's what I talked to my call yourself, I think that should be in quotes. Yeah, your name.

00:57:53
Speaker 3: I think it's Randall, but I I could be wrong. But that's one of my favorite all time Eric moments. Is just the perplexed look of the and Betsy's reading is perfect.

00:58:04
Speaker 2: That's that's it's.

00:58:10
Speaker 3: So.

00:58:10
Speaker 1: Then we're in Chubby's. Corey and Sean walk into Chubby so Corey can order to pang his ice cream. Corey asks Sean why he kissed Missy Robinson, not realizing he says it out loud so everyone in Chubby's can hear. Sean says Missy attacked him and Corey is the victim, which, to be fair, is the truth. That is what happened. I do understand that Corey was there and he should have left. Being in a place that you shouldn't be is not an invitation for someone to forcibly put their mouth on.

00:58:38
Speaker 3: Your Like you can do it when you because you can mitigate the risk, But it still doesn't make it right.

00:58:46
Speaker 1: It's a little like to take it to an extreme. It's a little like, well, did you see what she was wearing? Yes, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that he was there.

00:58:55
Speaker 2: I mean, I think, I mean, I think the key thing is that she did try and he stopped her with his hand between their lips. First. Yeah, that's the key. Like if he hadn't done that, I would say, like, you know, you go in, you make the move for a kiss, and if you know, if you get to tould lips right, if you touch lips, you could say, like, I don't think that that's always assault, you know, but like in this case, it's the third time that she's He's also.

00:59:23
Speaker 1: Not just stopped with his fingers. He also says, I have a girlfriend. I have a girlfriend. I don't want to do this. I can't do this. Whether it's I can't or I don't want to, it doesn't you know. He says, I can't do this. I have a girlfriend.

00:59:35
Speaker 3: He literally runs into the closet and shuts the door to be away from her, and she then follows him in there. Yeah.

00:59:43
Speaker 2: So yeah, like I think it's it's doing a lot of work to just make sure that Corey is as innocent as he possibly can be, right, and he does take responsibility for for something. But yeah, I think the show I was just wanting to make sure that that the viewers identify with Corey because if it was too easy to be like, well, Corey, you're just an ass, You're just a cheating ass, you know, and then the whole episode's useless.

01:00:12
Speaker 3: So this is very different than Lauren, you know, which they go down that road as well, where he emotionally and physically cheats, which is which is a whole different thing totally.

01:00:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just I would like to point out that Sean is acting like, look, I'm going to come up with a I'm going to come up with a trick for you. You're a victim, but it is actually the truth. You know you can. So it gets worse though for me because, like you say, Corey is the victim, which i truth is basically the truth, not a lie, even though Sean is acting like it's a little bit of a lie. Corey gets the ice cream from a new Jobby's employee, and Sean.

01:00:49
Speaker 2: Says, Corey, this ice cream too, and nowhere else to get anything ice cream. You have your raves there your ice cream exactly.

01:00:58
Speaker 1: Even though apparently the school is right next to a frozen yogurt shop where Madam Ospenskaya reads could have gone her.

01:01:04
Speaker 2: That got shut down. Yes, okay, health code violation, yes, health go violace too many wolves.

01:01:10
Speaker 1: So Corey gets the ice cream, and Sean says Corey is home free. He kissed another girl and he's gonna get away with it until he says hello Topanga, and Topanga is standing behind Corey. Corey turns around to see Topanga and starts singing.

01:01:21
Speaker 2: Fifteen time, I wasn't even going to it. I wasn't even gonna mention it.

01:01:27
Speaker 1: She starts singing Oh Susannah again, and Topanga says she needed to get out of the house and that it's getting late and she worried Corey might have forgotten about her. He says, does this look like I forgot about you? Holding up the ice cream. Topanga takes the ice cream from him and asks if it's okay if she doesn't kiss him because she's still jermy. She blows him a kiss and starts to walk out. Sean says Corey is home free. Corey says home nothing, and then stops Tapanga saying he can't lie to her about what happened tonight. And then Corey says he accidentally kissed Missy.

01:01:56
Speaker 2: Before we get into that, can I just ask very quickly.

01:01:58
Speaker 1: Isn't what?

01:01:59
Speaker 2: How? And I asked why?

01:02:00
Speaker 3: What? What is Tapanga doing? Was she just gonna walk downstairs and chubbies and then leave?

01:02:07
Speaker 1: No, she was coming to order her own ice cream?

01:02:08
Speaker 2: Is that what it was? She was coming?

01:02:11
Speaker 1: She was worried he forgot about her. She had to get out of the house. I'll go get my own ice cream. And then he has it for and she's like, oh great, thank you, I can leave.

01:02:18
Speaker 2: Now, gotcha? Gotcha?

01:02:20
Speaker 3: Gotcha?

01:02:21
Speaker 2: Yeah. Saying accidentally is just a way to soften what he did, Like it's just him being an idiot, right right? And I guess just throwing in a word to make it sound better than it. Did he kiss her?

01:02:33
Speaker 1: He didn't even kiss her kiss him. The only thing he should take responsibility for is going to He went to this party tonight, and I kind of knew it was only a party for me, and instead of leaving, I stay and she kissed me.

01:02:52
Speaker 3: Yep, like after I told her twice that I didn't want to and stopped her from doing it, and then ran into another room and shut the door.

01:03:00
Speaker 1: And I hid in the closet.

01:03:01
Speaker 2: And closet, I mean the really, it's it's a blocking thing. If if she if they're in the closet after he hangs up the phone, if she had just sort of grabbed him and looked at him and he had kissed her, they met, they made together, if they met together.

01:03:18
Speaker 1: Correct, it would he could accident Then he could say I got caught up. I don't know what I found myself in about it.

01:03:26
Speaker 2: Totally would have been fine. I think it would have it would it wouldn't have been It would have been the same moment, right like coreus is not I don't know, Like yeah, I think it's a good storyline for him to because he put himself in a situation. He's flirting with a girl. He does think she's attractive, he says that.

01:03:42
Speaker 1: Finally, but is in that case if that had been the case, I think there wouldn't have ever been a world where Tapega would then say, well, then we should stay in this relationship. I think she would say a relationship is a choice you make where you agree to be monogamous with your or significant other. And if you are telling me that when you go to a party it might end up happening that you become insource old and kiss somebody else, you should just be single. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with being single and going to a party and kissing something. But if you're gonna be in a relationship and have a girlfriend, that's a choice you've made. You know what you give up when you make that choice. And so in this case, they really did need it to be that. It wasn't Corey cheating. It isn't the Lauren situation. We address that later when he actually has a come to Jesus about their relationship and he cheats on her. They didn't want that to be this case. So I don't know why then it isn't presented the way it is. And so the fact that then he says I accidentally kissed her, Topanga has a normal reaction, which is, excuse me, how do you accidentally kiss someone? Did she slip and your lips broke her fall. He tells her he feels horrible again. Now red flags everywhere. To Pega has just been told she's been cheated on, and he goes, I feel real bad. You sure are making me feel bad. Gosh, why do you have to make me feel so bad? Since I feel so bad anyway, and she like kind of accepts that, and her response is, well, what do you think I should do? I love I love asking that. That's what parents should do too, by the way, like, wow, well there was a real you know, there was a choice made here that I feel like was a bad choice. What what should the response to the bad choice be? And he says he hopes it's not what he deserves, which is a good answer though, yeah, great answer. Also, does he fully deserve to be broken?

01:05:35
Speaker 2: Well with the way they wrote it? He does. The way they wrote this, the way he's presenting it exactly. But no, of course not, he does.

01:05:41
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, he made some bad choices by not leaving, but he also didn't cheat on her, so to Pega then Weirdo goes, how did she kiss you? Because to Pega knows she's got the ensorcelement all she needs to do is.

01:05:58
Speaker 2: In such a weird moment. I did not know what was happening. I was like, how are they going to resolve this? I was like, she's going she's him feminine Wiles, Wiles, I have a question. I have a question.

01:06:12
Speaker 3: And I know this is not what they were planning, but in my head, what if she was going to stay with them, but as a bit of a punishment, she was going to get him sick.

01:06:21
Speaker 2: I think so. I think that's part of it. I mean, that's why, which is also all I could think about. I was like, oh no, that's gross. That's just getting him sick. That's all I was thinking. I was like, you made a reference to being jermy, and that's why I think. She kisses him.

01:06:33
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm gonna forgive you this time, but you're gonna remember what you did because I'm going to maybe kill you with strap, right, so I'm.

01:06:40
Speaker 2: Going to infect you if in the world post COVID that's I don't know, man, right, Yeah, did you say that's hard to swallow? Because that would have been a great That's what I was gonna say. Uh.

01:06:52
Speaker 1: Then she grabs him, says was it like this? And she ensorceles him with the real open mouth guess and Corey is been sources by the way to peng has just kissed him. He says he's never been kissed like that before.

01:07:08
Speaker 3: What what? What? What? What is? It?

01:07:12
Speaker 2: Literallys it was like what.

01:07:16
Speaker 1: Penga says, it will be the last time? Have you ever do that again?

01:07:20
Speaker 2: And angry who's still situation?

01:07:24
Speaker 1: And so Panga smiling at him.

01:07:27
Speaker 3: And.

01:07:29
Speaker 1: It was so weird.

01:07:30
Speaker 2: It was such a weird, like what just happened? It was like what just what just happened? Everywhere?

01:07:37
Speaker 1: And they're fine, They're still There're they're still gonna stick this out, even though they're teenagers who aren't married or have children with each other. They could walk away at any point. It's okay to walk away.

01:07:52
Speaker 3: So much better is is had he told her what kind of happened, what actually happened, I shouldn't have been And she's like, look, you shouldn't have been down there.

01:08:02
Speaker 2: That was your mistake.

01:08:03
Speaker 3: Is that the second you walk down there and saw that it was a party just for the you should have gotten out of there. No.

01:08:09
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's clear to us as like grown ups watching the show, but for kids watching the show, the idea that Corey did something wrong is very murky, and like clarifying what is actually wrong about this situation is is kind of helpful, right like, because we're having a very extensive discussion in this pod cuss about figuring out what it is that went wrong because it's it's it's tricky, like all of these things are turky, and so I do think there's a responsibility to a certain degree for the show to explain what is the wrong, where the moral line is when it was crossed, and then for Tapanga to to actually decide whether she wants to forgive him or not based on what was None of that is clarified. It's left intentionally murky, and it's solved with seduction, right or more sex, which is just weird.

01:08:59
Speaker 3: I'd have ended with a great Topanga line, and it would have taken it in a whole different way. But I would have ended with and you know, with Corey saying something like you know, well what about Missy and Topanga just going oh, yeah, she and I are going to have a talk like just something like that, where it was like, because it was her, she actually was the engine behind this entire thing.

01:09:17
Speaker 2: So yeah, the whole thing was just really weird. The way it was wrapped up, just bizarre.

01:09:23
Speaker 1: People are probably going to be so mad at me for having this take on it, because I think I have a feeling this is one of those episodes that people really like. I don't know, maybe people don't really like this episode, but I have a feeling this is one of those things that when you are a kid and you watch it for whatever reason, you think it's romantic.

01:09:38
Speaker 2: You think it's what's romantic Topanga taking him.

01:09:42
Speaker 1: Back at the end, like Panga being confident enough to send him to a party and then for something bad to happen at that party, and for Tapanga to still be confident enough that what she's confident in is actually that Missy doesn't have what I had, right, It's some special cadard and some special sourcealment power over Corey, and you know, oh, they're meant to be together their kids. Like that kind of romanticism of like, oh, even when when tough things come up, these two people can just overcome it. If you turn the blind eye to horrible red flags that your relationship isn't what it should be. Weird, there's something there that I think.

01:10:22
Speaker 2: You liked when you were thirteen.

01:10:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, that just you get kind of carried away with the like yet because by the way, you do get carried away by hormones at thirteen, of course you do get carried away by exactly what writer is saying, like, Oh man, I have a girlfriend. I really shouldn't enjoy this as much as I am. But look, I'm having a great time. This conversation is riveting. I'm having fun dancing.

01:10:42
Speaker 2: She's sitting argeous.

01:10:45
Speaker 1: Press on like you do. Those things do happen. So anyway, uh, the tag we're in the school hallway, Mister Williams asks Turner how Phoenie is with this C storyline I almost forgot in highrely existed.

01:11:01
Speaker 2: Only two scenes. The other storylines are only two scenes. Will storylines only two scenes. This one's only two. But they're good scenes. I like that them.

01:11:07
Speaker 1: They're great.

01:11:08
Speaker 2: I like both the B and C storylines on me too. A Bill's performances so got it all day.

01:11:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wants to know how his bad knee did at the Walker walkathon, and Turner says, bad knee, who told you that? Phoene trots down the stairs stairs.

01:11:25
Speaker 2: There's a laugh on the walk just bouncing down the stairs.

01:11:30
Speaker 1: He bounces down the stairs and says, there is nothing like a ten mile walk. Eli realizes he owes Phoene five hundred dollars because of his fifty dollars a mile deal. Phoene gets an ache in his knee and says he better, I say. Eli asks if Turner can buy him lunch, and Turner says yeah. Eli clarifies he means all year. Then we see Corey is homesick on the couch and Tapanga calls him from school, says up sounds like he has the same thing she had, and says he doesn't think he'll ever get off the couch. Ta Panga tells him not to worry. She sent something over that will have him on his feet in no time. And then Triny walks in the front door ready to help. Now, is this payback slash a revenge type situation?

01:12:14
Speaker 2: It will's right, I think that's the best explanation for Like, yeah, that that, yeah, that that Topanga was resolving the situation with a kiss, which is weird. Yeah, but that that also that kiss was double edged and was a way to get him sick.

01:12:32
Speaker 1: Right, so and then I can sick my best friend on you who's someone you find annoying?

01:12:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's payback essentially. Yeah, because I didn't wonder he learns his lesson. I just yeah, I do think it would have been nice to clarify, like what what that lesson is is, like what you know, what is it about this with yourself in bad situations?

01:12:53
Speaker 1: Which is what he listened to you. I love exactly what writer said that we are having an in depth conversation about who is wrong and where and where were the lines crossed? And these are important conversations to have as adults as kids, especially because relationships are tricky and social norms are tricky, and not everybody picks up on social norms the same way. And sometimes you think you are giving off a sign that you are either uncomfortable, but if you're not direct enough, someone else may not read it. And you know, there there is a lot of room for conflict and very bad things to happen if those aren't just directly talked about. And I think this episode missed the mark there, and maybe that wasn't what they were trying to do, And certainly in the nineties this wasn't as openly.

01:13:47
Speaker 2: Discussed as Yeah, it is now.

01:13:50
Speaker 1: Sure, there is a very big spotlight on consent these days, and I wish there had been a very big spotlight on consent, you know, years go, but it just wasn't the same. I mean, I know we've all had private conversations about times and situations where we've looked back and thought, man, I didn't ever think of it that way, but I was definitely trying to tell somebody else no, and they did not see it that way or respect it that way. And you know, I do think it's we're reading it from a twenty twenty three lens, and we will probably get ish for that that like, oh it's so woke, but being that we are rewatching it in twenty twenty three, yeah, I think it's really good to be able to say I actually enjoyed the episode. I despite despite the topanga weird ending stuff. Overall, I like the situation.

01:14:38
Speaker 2: Me too, And I like storylines too. I think digging in and finding layers of complexity that's the most fun part, and that's what I want to do this podcast. Like memoir stuff part I love being like, you know, maybe Tapega did kiss him for revenge and forgiveness, you know, like, oh, that's cool, and like, I think criticizing it is helpful. You know, for me, a lot of this does go back to what we noticed at the beginning of the second season, which is the horny boy point of view that this show just sort of defaults to. And it's really interesting for me to see how much the show relies on that perspective, like this, this is not an episode about Tapanga's feelings. This is not an episode about Topanga's point of view at all. Like to like go, there's a lot of complexity given to Cory's point of view, right, there's a lot of nuance, whereas Tapanga is just a sort of an angry like, you know, how is she going to react? Like is she going to forgive me or not? Is the only question. Her feelings about this are just completely off camera, like they're just not part of the show. And that's a really interesting sort of like as a missed opportunity for our show, because Topanga should She's a big part of the storyline, right, like and I would yeah, And I think with the Lauren stuff we do get into that, right I'm assuming yeah, our show before yeah, yeah.

01:16:04
Speaker 1: And this episode I'd like to point out written by two women.

01:16:08
Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, that's true. Yes, it just feels very much like the point of the episode is for Corey to be conflicted, for for horny Corey to not know what to do.

01:16:18
Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, yeah, I would love to see and I get that, maybe it's exactly the same.

01:16:25
Speaker 2: I would love to see the first draft that submitted.

01:16:29
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, the two women, the draft before it was written by a room.

01:16:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to assume what it was. Well, who knows, could have been exactly the same. For the record, I could have been exactly the same. Yep.

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