Smokey and the Bandit (1977) vs Cannonball Run (1981): Part 1

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In 1977, Burt Reynolds agreed to be in his roommate, stuntman Hal Needham's, directorial debut despite it being the worst script he had ever read. What resulted was a defining role for Reynolds and a sleeper hit for Needham finishing second that year only to Star Wars. Four years and four movies later, Needham and Reynolds teamed up for another defining role and star-studded mega hit, The Cannonball Run. Both movies are nothing but fun where you as the viewer are along for the ride. So, come along for the ride with us as we have some fun and explore the history and the hilarity of these two iconic car chase movies. DA-DA-DUUM!!
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody back to the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast.
<v Speaker 1>I am here with my cowboy hat and my Coors beer,
<v Speaker 1>and Jason is here with his trucker hat and his
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies mustache.
<v Speaker 2>Cheers Jason, What are you drinking that curs beer for dye.
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm thirsty dummy.
<v Speaker 3>Hello everybody, and welcome to the Surely You Can't Be
<v Speaker 3>Serious Podcast, discussing and debating the iconic and the forgotten
<v Speaker 3>of eighties and nineties.
<v Speaker 1>Pop culture with your co hosts James D.
<v Speaker 2>Graves and Jason Caliphic Mercy Sakes. Mercy Sakes like Lester
<v Speaker 2>and Earl and Fred and Ginger together again. Today we're
<v Speaker 2>going to be talking about two fantastic buddy movies. I
<v Speaker 2>mean two favorites, right, maybe Got Smoking the Bandit versus
<v Speaker 2>Cannonball Run.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. This is not an easy contest. This is going
<v Speaker 1>to be in the realm of Bold Durham versus Major League,
<v Speaker 1>where you get two movies that are so stinking good
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to pick one as the best.
<v Speaker 2>They are guilty pleasures to the core. I love these movies.
<v Speaker 2>I can put them on any time, and I guaranteed
<v Speaker 2>to laugh.
<v Speaker 1>So with two great movies like this, we have to
<v Speaker 1>ask the question, why are we doing this? What is
<v Speaker 1>our purpose on going to this impossible mission to decide
<v Speaker 1>which of these two movies is the best.
<v Speaker 2>We're doing this for the good old American life, for
<v Speaker 2>the money, for the glory, and for the fun.
<v Speaker 1>Mostly for the fun, right because money, no money.
<v Speaker 2>There's no money involved here.
<v Speaker 1>Before we do that, we want to give a few
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<v Speaker 1>And then one final shout out to Ken Wilson Junior.
<v Speaker 1>He is a friend of the show, always involved with
<v Speaker 1>us on Facebook, and just a great guy. He had
<v Speaker 1>actually hit us up about a Gunter contest. He had
<v Speaker 1>created one and we were supposed to do a clue
<v Speaker 1>for him. But before we could get together and do
<v Speaker 1>the clue together, somebody already figured it out and won
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<v Speaker 1>Sorry we missed out on this one, but we definitely
<v Speaker 1>want to do some more Gunter stuff in the future.
<v Speaker 1>Can't wait.
<v Speaker 2>That's right, we are big Ready Player one fans.
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, let's talk about these two movies, because
<v Speaker 1>these two movies defy reason. You know, we've talked about
<v Speaker 1>the Greek structure of Raiders of the Lost Arc and
<v Speaker 1>Back to the Future and the hero's journey and the
<v Speaker 1>depth in Bull Durham and all of these things. And
<v Speaker 1>these are two movies that don't really have a plot,
<v Speaker 1>should I do?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you guys going to pick up some beer
<v Speaker 2>as fast as possible, loosest loosest of terms.
<v Speaker 1>So I guess maybe maybe our story begins back in
<v Speaker 1>the eighteen hundreds when Adolph Cours stows away on an
<v Speaker 1>oil freighter across the Atlantic, ends up in America, travels
<v Speaker 1>his way out west where he ends up in Golden Colorado,
<v Speaker 1>and is the only guy with any beer making experience,
<v Speaker 1>so he becomes the local brewer. And what do they get?
<v Speaker 1>We get Coors beer. And that is the impetus for
<v Speaker 1>the first of these movies. Come out Smoking the Bandit.
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about Smoking the vandit for a second. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>Smoking the Bandit was released on June twentieth, nineteen seventy seven.
<v Speaker 2>The budget for this get this five million dollars, okay, five.
<v Speaker 1>Point three don't forget three hundred thousand dollars is a
<v Speaker 1>lot of money.
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, five point three million dollars right. One million
<v Speaker 2>of it went to Burt Reynolds, so that left four
<v Speaker 2>point three right, And then they brought in a hatchetman
<v Speaker 2>at the last minute. Yea, he knocked off a million
<v Speaker 2>dollars off the budget, right.
<v Speaker 1>So how need him bent thirty hours redoing the script
<v Speaker 1>to get it to where they could shoot the movie
<v Speaker 1>for the money that they had to make it with.
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about how this movie came about. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>so how neat him is a stunt man. He was
<v Speaker 2>arguably the best stuntman in the business for quite some time,
<v Speaker 2>had been doing it for years and years. And he's
<v Speaker 2>good old boy, and as good old boys do, they
<v Speaker 2>drink beer. And so somebody got him a gift of
<v Speaker 2>some Coors beer, and he wasn't a big drinker, but
<v Speaker 2>he noticed that he seemed to be going through a
<v Speaker 2>lot of In fact, he seemed to be going through
<v Speaker 2>cours whenever he wasn't drinking, And so he realized somebody
<v Speaker 2>was stealing his Coors beer, and lo and behold.
<v Speaker 1>It turned out to be the maid. The maid stole
<v Speaker 1>the beer, and when he confronted her about it, she
<v Speaker 1>was just like, well, my husband just loves this so much.
<v Speaker 1>He just says it's the best beer that's ever made,
<v Speaker 1>and we're not allowed to get it out here, And
<v Speaker 1>so that's why I was sneaking it from you, And
<v Speaker 1>that little thieving maid was the inspiration for the whole plot,
<v Speaker 1>if you will call it, that of Smoking the Bandit.
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. This happened on the set of the movie Gator,
<v Speaker 2>which was shot in nineteen seventy six, right before Smoking
<v Speaker 2>the Bandit. And in Gator you have starring Burt Reynolds,
<v Speaker 2>Jerry Reid is the bad guy and how Neatam is
<v Speaker 2>the stuntman. Yeah. So he just thought, well, bootlegging Coors
<v Speaker 2>would make a good plot line for a movie. And
<v Speaker 2>you know what, he was right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, so while they're making Gator, he's trying to
<v Speaker 1>write the script for this movie idea that he's and
<v Speaker 1>he writes it all on the legal pad and some
<v Speaker 1>years earlier, I don't remember what the circumstances were, but
<v Speaker 1>he was out of home for a bit and said, hey, Bert,
<v Speaker 1>can I crash on your couch for a few weeks?
<v Speaker 1>And Bert said sure, and then they were roommates for
<v Speaker 1>the next eleven years. Right, So he's writing this script
<v Speaker 1>on the legal pad and thinks he's got this great concept,
<v Speaker 1>got the whole movie written on the breaks of Gator,
<v Speaker 1>and he shows it to Bert, and Bert Reynolds says,
<v Speaker 1>this is the worst script I've ever read in my
<v Speaker 1>whole life, but I'm gonna do it.
<v Speaker 2>You know, originally they wanted Jerry Reid to be the Bandit.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I had to wait for Smoking in the Bandit
<v Speaker 1>three for that one kind of mentioned that the same
<v Speaker 1>way we mentioned Superman four. Yeah, and Crystal Skull. Hell.
<v Speaker 2>Needham had a lot of trouble getting any studio to
<v Speaker 2>get involved in this or have any interest at all,
<v Speaker 2>until Bert Reynolds said, you know what, I'll do it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Burt Reynold was the biggest star of the day,
<v Speaker 1>the biggest Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Burt Reynolds said that after he agreed to do this,
<v Speaker 2>he had friends that got down on their knees and
<v Speaker 2>begged him not to do this movie.
<v Speaker 1>You got you gotta just think about that for just
<v Speaker 1>a second. Okay, he's the biggest star of the day.
<v Speaker 1>You look at the movies that he was doing, and
<v Speaker 1>you look at this movie that nobody wanted him to do,
<v Speaker 1>that he said, was the worst script ever. That was
<v Speaker 1>being written and directed by a stunt man who had
<v Speaker 1>never done any of those things before other than as
<v Speaker 1>a second unit guy, and you got to think, how
<v Speaker 1>the heck did this movie become the movie that everybody
<v Speaker 1>remembers and practically nobody cares about Gator, right, or whatever
<v Speaker 1>that movie he was in with e Liza Minelli, or
<v Speaker 1>any of those other movies that came in.
<v Speaker 2>Right, name five Burt Reynolds movies. And I guarantee you're
<v Speaker 2>starting off with smoking the Band at Canniball, Run Yep,
<v Speaker 2>Deliverance probably you know something like that, right, Okay, So
<v Speaker 2>as they're putting this together, Burt Reynolds says, yeah, I'll
<v Speaker 2>do it. And I got my buddy Jerry Reid, who
<v Speaker 2>we just shot Gator, and he's going to play my
<v Speaker 2>buddy Snowman in this. And he said, I need my
<v Speaker 2>love interest. And they said, okay, well who are we
<v Speaker 2>going to hire for this? And Burt Reynolds had always
<v Speaker 2>kind of been smitten with Sally Field, the flying Nun. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and she was not really looked at as a sexy actress.
<v Speaker 1>She's kind of a I didn't think she was attractive enough.
<v Speaker 1>I mean she was cute, you know, yeah, baby baby,
<v Speaker 1>that's a cute.
<v Speaker 2>But he really wanted her to do it. And when
<v Speaker 2>he talked to her. She thought, you know what, I
<v Speaker 2>want to be a little more mainstream. I want to
<v Speaker 2>be seen as attractive and sexy. And if Hollywood's number
<v Speaker 2>one leading man thinks I'm sexy, then maybe everybody else
<v Speaker 2>will think I'm sexy. Sure, So she was like, you
<v Speaker 2>know what, I think I will do this, And especially
<v Speaker 2>since she just got done doing a movie called Sybil,
<v Speaker 2>which is about a woman with multiple personalities.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's her age and on this they were like,
<v Speaker 1>you need to do a big movie. You need to
<v Speaker 1>do these you know, you've you've been the flying Nun,
<v Speaker 1>you've done these TV bits, you've done the weird Sibyl thing.
<v Speaker 1>You need to be a part of a movie that's
<v Speaker 1>got some big stars in it. And so how nice
<v Speaker 1>that Burt Reynolds is the one that's knocking on her door.
<v Speaker 2>So then they they're looking for the role of who's
<v Speaker 2>gonna play Sheriff Beauford t Justice of Texas. And so
<v Speaker 2>they originally looked at this guy, Richard Boone. Are you
<v Speaker 2>familiar with him?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? He was on the have gun We'll travel, Have Gun,
<v Speaker 1>We'll travel. It is the heart of them man. A
<v Speaker 1>night without armors?
<v Speaker 2>Nice?
<v Speaker 1>Then I'm getting it all from stand By Me. I
<v Speaker 1>didn't watch that show.
<v Speaker 2>That's where I know it from to stand by Me.
<v Speaker 2>But Bert wanted somebody a little crazier, a little more dangerous,
<v Speaker 2>and a lot funnier.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got him.
<v Speaker 2>Jackie freaking Gleason.
<v Speaker 1>Jackie freaking Gleason, man, amazing. I said it just a
<v Speaker 1>little bit earlier tonight. I was talking to our friend
<v Speaker 1>Arlen about this movie. These are two of his favorites
<v Speaker 1>as well, and I said it without Jackie Gleason smoking
<v Speaker 1>the band, it doesn't become the thing that it is.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I totally agree. I totally agree. In fact, for
<v Speaker 2>this podcast, I went through the movie. I watched the
<v Speaker 2>movie and I wrote down every funny line, and I
<v Speaker 2>basically wrote down everything that Jackie Gleason says.
<v Speaker 1>Right, he's hilarious. These are the two movies if you
<v Speaker 1>pick two movies from the seventies and eighties that you
<v Speaker 1>think of when you say Burt Reynolds, it's these two movies.
<v Speaker 1>And in both of the movies, he's along for the ride.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's great, but he's not the guy that
<v Speaker 1>makes the movie. He's just there giving his star power
<v Speaker 1>and letting everybody else make you laugh.
<v Speaker 2>I call you the band Okay. We talked about this
<v Speaker 2>briefly the other day, but I asked you who is
<v Speaker 2>the best at their role in this movie. Burt Reynolds
<v Speaker 2>plays Bandit to a t. I mean, people love the
<v Speaker 2>bandit and he's cool and he's smooth, and he's funny,
<v Speaker 2>and he's out.
<v Speaker 1>The mischievousness and the laughing at the situation that makes
<v Speaker 1>his part in this movie. It's not that he's done
<v Speaker 1>some great acting performance. He does. We talked about Eddie
<v Speaker 1>Murphy breaking the fourth wall. He does it in both
<v Speaker 1>of these movies. Yes, and freakantastic because he's letting you know, hey, guys,
<v Speaker 1>come on, let's go for a ride, seriously letting the
<v Speaker 1>audience in. It's great.
<v Speaker 2>He's like a redneck James Bond. I mean he's cool
<v Speaker 2>and funny and laid back and come on and party
<v Speaker 2>with me. We're gonna have a great time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So Bert does a great job. Jerry Reid as the buddy,
<v Speaker 2>as the trucker snowman, likable, funny, He gives this the
<v Speaker 2>flavor of the movie with the trucker talk and the CB.
<v Speaker 1>Knowing that he's the villain in Gator seems weird to
<v Speaker 1>me because I just he's just seems like such a
<v Speaker 1>nice guy. It's hard to imagine him as the villain, right,
<v Speaker 1>He's actually, I mean, kind of a tough guy. You're
<v Speaker 1>kind of scared of him in that.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, at the beginning, you see this friendship when
<v Speaker 2>Bandit shows up at his house and basically just moves
<v Speaker 2>his wife out of the way and goes into his bedroom. Oh,
<v Speaker 2>you know, we got a chance to make a lot
<v Speaker 2>of money, and Jerry's like, well, we got to do
<v Speaker 2>kidnap the pope or something. That whole the friendship is great,
<v Speaker 2>you get you I buy their friendship. But then you've
<v Speaker 2>got Jackie Leeson as the sheriff.
<v Speaker 1>It's just fan freakantastic.
<v Speaker 2>Everything is funny.
<v Speaker 1>Sally Field is acceptable in the part. She's pretty enough
<v Speaker 1>and sexy enough, and she's engaging. There's just something enticing
<v Speaker 1>about her. And Bert Reynolds we've talked about, Jerry Reed,
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about, but Jackie Gleason is the man in
<v Speaker 1>this movie.
<v Speaker 2>You know. And Jackie Gleeson was originally just supposed to
<v Speaker 2>be in the car by himself, but he's like, you
<v Speaker 2>know what I need somebody to play off of. Put
<v Speaker 2>somebody in the car with me and Mike Henry Junior Justice.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mike Henry, who's just I mean, he's like a
<v Speaker 1>Greek god. I mean, he's just. He was Tarzan, he
<v Speaker 1>was a football player. He was in the longest yard
<v Speaker 1>and was one of those tough guys. And he plays
<v Speaker 1>that goofy who Daddy the top came off to a
<v Speaker 1>tea to a tea he does. I mean, his the
<v Speaker 1>entire dial that he has during this movie probably doesn't
<v Speaker 1>fill up an entire paragraph, but it is essential for
<v Speaker 1>all of Jackie Gleeson's comedy.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, basically, his direction is to stand there
<v Speaker 2>and be a punching bag for Jackie Gleeson, and Jackie
<v Speaker 2>Gleeson is like, you want something, He's like, hush puppies, Daddy,
<v Speaker 2>we ain't got time for that crap.
<v Speaker 1>Hilarious hush puppies. Why. So, that's the other thing about
<v Speaker 1>this movie. We talked about the fact that Burt Reynolds
<v Speaker 1>read hol Needham's Legal Pad script and said, this is terrible,
<v Speaker 1>worst I've ever read. Right, they didn't have a script
<v Speaker 1>that they stuck to, Like number one script was just
<v Speaker 1>an outline and then number two, the first day of
<v Speaker 1>filming they find out, oh crap, we've got to eliminate
<v Speaker 1>half of our scenes because of our budget cut. And
<v Speaker 1>so it was really just okay, guys, here's the situation.
<v Speaker 1>Make up some.
<v Speaker 2>Stuff, right, and who better to do that with than
<v Speaker 2>Jackie Gleeson. In fact, I mean, well, I know we'll
<v Speaker 2>get in all this. But the restaurant scene where Bandit
<v Speaker 2>and Beauverty Justice meet was not in the original script,
<v Speaker 2>but it was suggested by Jackie Leeson. And it's gold.
<v Speaker 2>It's gold.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's absolutely fantastic. Cleans his tie off with his coffee.
<v Speaker 1>Jackie Leeson is spitting in his face.
<v Speaker 2>You mean dieblo sandwich and a great big doctor pepper
<v Speaker 2>and make it fast. I'm gonna hurry.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what this is a mystery to me.
<v Speaker 1>And if you've got the answer, I'd love to hear,
<v Speaker 1>because I couldn't find it. So Jackie Gleesion says to
<v Speaker 1>Helen Edam, we need to have this scene where Smokey
<v Speaker 1>and the Bandit meet. They set up the scene. He
<v Speaker 1>comes in, He's brilliant. Burt Reynolds is really just reacting
<v Speaker 1>most of the time. But at some point, either while
<v Speaker 1>they're filming the scene or just after they film the scene,
<v Speaker 1>Burt Reynolds goes to hell Needam and says, I'm not
<v Speaker 1>doing any more scenes with Jackie.
<v Speaker 2>I know that drives me insane. I wish I know
<v Speaker 2>what the reason was. Yeah, So what I read was
<v Speaker 2>there was no explanation and there was no insinuation of anything.
<v Speaker 2>Bert was just like, I'm not doing that anymore. And
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was because he knew Jackie was killing it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe he felt like he was getting upstaged.
<v Speaker 1>That's certainly possibility, kind of.
<v Speaker 2>Like sharing a scene with Robin Williams. I mean, you
<v Speaker 2>just got to get out of the way and let
<v Speaker 2>him go to work, you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, right. And I can understand if you're a huge
<v Speaker 1>star like that having that concern, But I mean, we're
<v Speaker 1>talking about Jackie freaking Gleason. Man. Maybe it's because he
<v Speaker 1>didn't like getting spit on.
<v Speaker 2>I got some Diablo juice in my eye here.
<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody please stick around. We will be right
<v Speaker 1>back after these messages.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jackie Gleeson, I don't know if you know this
<v Speaker 2>or not. Jackie Gleeson was offered a percentage of the
<v Speaker 2>gross box office versus a straight salary. But he took
<v Speaker 2>the salary and it cost him millions of dollars.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Well, I can't blame him. Looking at the situation,
<v Speaker 1>I cannot blame him, right, but ouch, that sucks.
<v Speaker 2>Just to stick the knife in a little bit further.
<v Speaker 2>This was the second and biggest movie in nineteen seventy seven,
<v Speaker 2>second only to Star Wars, which you know, might have
<v Speaker 2>heard of that one, Yeah, yeah, did pretty well the
<v Speaker 2>box office for Smoking the Bandit one hundred and twenty
<v Speaker 2>six million dollars on.
<v Speaker 1>A budget of five four four four point three then
<v Speaker 1>a million going to birth right. That's right. Just think
<v Speaker 1>about that. Just think about your entire budget. A quarter
<v Speaker 1>of it goes to one actor in the movie.
<v Speaker 2>You have three, you have four point three left to
<v Speaker 2>pay Sally Field, Jerry Reid, Jackie Gleason and buy about
<v Speaker 2>five trans ams and five cop cars and chase them
<v Speaker 2>all over the world. It's it's it's insane.
<v Speaker 1>So, in addition to being in the movie, Jerry Reid
<v Speaker 1>wrote east Bound and Down, which is the key song
<v Speaker 1>in the movie. Right, huge, huge for the movie came
<v Speaker 1>in played it for how Needham and how Needham just
<v Speaker 1>kind of stared at him for a second and he
<v Speaker 1>was like, it's okay, I can go I go rewrite it.
<v Speaker 1>I'll go rewrite it. And how Needam says, no, this
<v Speaker 1>song is going to be a hit. Do not change
<v Speaker 1>word of it, and he was absolutely right. It was
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Reid's number one song.
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's huge. You walk up to somebody on the
<v Speaker 2>street and you say, what do you remember about smoking
<v Speaker 2>the Man and they're like, well, bird's mustache and eastbounding
<v Speaker 2>down yep. You know.
<v Speaker 1>They do a part where they say westbounding down, like
<v Speaker 1>when they're headed Oh.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, when they're headed to text Arcana. That's brilliant
<v Speaker 2>westbounding down, which sounds a little bit funny. They make
<v Speaker 2>it to text Arkana and like the first fifteen minutes
<v Speaker 2>of the movie, right, yes, they have no trouble making
<v Speaker 2>it to text Arcana.
<v Speaker 1>Right yeah? And why why is that? No?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you have less concern when you don't have a
<v Speaker 1>semi truck full of bootlegged beer. It was Cores that
<v Speaker 1>didn't want their beer going out anywhere other than the
<v Speaker 1>eleven states they had distribution in because they didn't put
<v Speaker 1>additives in their beer, then put preservatives in there, and
<v Speaker 1>so if you let them get hot, they would go
<v Speaker 1>bad really quickly. But they didn't want to spend all
<v Speaker 1>the money on the refrigerated trucks. So it was Coors
<v Speaker 1>who was fighting the nationwide distribution. They just wanted to
<v Speaker 1>deliver to their eleven states and that be it. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they got sued in a couple of different circumstances and
<v Speaker 1>finally just had to go, well, I guess we're gonna
<v Speaker 1>have to spend the money because people want us to
<v Speaker 1>have They had become in eleventh they were in eleven states,
<v Speaker 1>and they had become the fourth most popular beer in
<v Speaker 1>the US. Number one was Budweiser, the other one was
<v Speaker 1>Phapsed and the other one was like Schlitch. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's like two other beers that just nobody drinks anymore.
<v Speaker 1>And then Coors, which I'm almost done with my second one,
<v Speaker 1>so yours?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are thirsty. Do we want to talk about
<v Speaker 2>the plot now or do we want to talk about
<v Speaker 2>Kenniball run?
<v Speaker 1>No? I mean we can we can do the plot.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's gonna take about thirty seconds.
<v Speaker 2>To Okay, So the plot of the movie. The plot
<v Speaker 2>of the movie is Bandit, whose actual name is Bo
<v Speaker 2>Danville Barville.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, sorry, a quick shout out to warm Bowled because
<v Speaker 1>he's the other part of the reason I'm drinking a
<v Speaker 1>beer while we're doing our podcast when we did our
<v Speaker 1>podcast with the thirty something guys. Shout out to the
<v Speaker 1>thirty something guys. Shout out to Bo for drinking a beer.
<v Speaker 1>You've inspired me to have a beer while we're doing
<v Speaker 1>our podcast.
<v Speaker 2>Right, all right, So Bandit's real name is Bo Darville.
<v Speaker 2>They don't say his full name at anytime in the movie.
<v Speaker 2>They do mention it. His real name is Bo. He
<v Speaker 2>mentions that, but he his handle, his cebe handle, is Bandit,
<v Speaker 2>and he is a truck rodeo superstar, okay, because there
<v Speaker 2>aren't such things as that, exactly. He's a legend, a legend,
<v Speaker 2>and a nautiwork bom look a lot of leg daddy.
<v Speaker 2>So big Enis and little Enis are our father and son.
<v Speaker 1>And they stop and talk about their name for just
<v Speaker 1>a second. Let's just this whole big Enus and little Enis.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there was just purely coincidental that they were
<v Speaker 2>going to do that.
<v Speaker 1>It was actually not their original names they had, they
<v Speaker 1>had different different.
<v Speaker 2>That was like Kyle and Dean or something like that.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, not funny enough.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, not funny at all. Speaking of Enus, I think
<v Speaker 1>Enis and bo right, I think John Schneider might have
<v Speaker 1>been been a cameo.
<v Speaker 2>Both Duke Cooter and Enism Dukes of Hazard.
<v Speaker 1>All three of those guys are in this in in
<v Speaker 1>a little bit parts that's it?
<v Speaker 2>You got yea, and Burt Reynolds plays Boss Hog in
<v Speaker 2>the remake of Dukes of Hazzard.
<v Speaker 1>It all comes full circle.
<v Speaker 2>Are we back on the plot here?
<v Speaker 1>Did we leave? I thought we were down with the plots.
<v Speaker 2>We're not quite done with the whole thing.
<v Speaker 1>Running beer the end, that's all.
<v Speaker 2>No. No, So Big Enis and Little Lenis are Texas
<v Speaker 2>oil bearings, as we think, and they just go around
<v Speaker 2>and put people up to these weird, strange bets. And
<v Speaker 2>so he wants Bandit to get off his butt and
<v Speaker 2>accept a real challenge and go pick up four hundred
<v Speaker 2>cases of Coors beer from Texarkana, Texas transport him back
<v Speaker 2>to Atlanta for a rodeo in twenty eight hours or less.
<v Speaker 1>Why Cooors beer?
<v Speaker 2>Because he's thirsty dummy. The kicker is is that transporting
<v Speaker 2>Coors beer east of the Mississippi is bootlegging, and so
<v Speaker 2>it's illegal what he's doing. And not only is it fast,
<v Speaker 2>but it's illegal, right, So he gets his buddy Snowman
<v Speaker 2>to drive the truck. They're gonna put the four hundred
<v Speaker 2>cases of Cours in the truck, and the trans am
<v Speaker 2>is running blocker, which basically means he gets all the
<v Speaker 2>attention from the cops and he runs all over the
<v Speaker 2>place and lets Snowman in the clear. Along the way,
<v Speaker 2>he picks up a runaway bride, Carrie played by Sally Field,
<v Speaker 2>who's running away from her marriage to Junior Justice, who
<v Speaker 2>is Sheriff Beaufort Justice's son, and Beaufort Justice is the
<v Speaker 2>type of man who is not gonna lit some koozy
<v Speaker 2>walk out on him, whether Knocker's bouncing around, poondanging was wiggling.
<v Speaker 1>Two.
<v Speaker 2>She insulted my towne, she insulted my son, and she
<v Speaker 2>insulted my authority. And so she jumps in the car
<v Speaker 2>with Bandit while he's transporting this beer, and he makes
<v Speaker 2>it his life mission to catch and put away Bandit.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they get this challenge by Big Nis and
<v Speaker 1>Little Nis right with me so far?
<v Speaker 2>I believe you're just a little bit scared. Oh that's great.
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you just say something about my mother? Your
<v Speaker 2>mama is so ugly?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So can you name me the artist that has
<v Speaker 1>had songs sung bye? Ready for this? Okay? Elvis Presley,
<v Speaker 1>Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Barbara streisand Willie Nelson, Kermit the Frog,
<v Speaker 1>Luther Van Dross, Neil McCoy, and Diamond Riot. To me,
<v Speaker 1>it's Paul Williams, the actor play in the part of
<v Speaker 1>Little Enis and he is a pastic prodigy. It is amazing.
<v Speaker 1>I mean he and I throw the carpenters in there
<v Speaker 1>as well. He's responsible for just an old fashioned love
<v Speaker 1>song out in the country, family Man, Rainy Days and
<v Speaker 1>Mondays and Rainbow Connection and this this might be the
<v Speaker 1>best the love boat theme.
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.
<v Speaker 1>It is right. He is a flipping genius and he
<v Speaker 1>was one of just to throw this in. He was
<v Speaker 1>one of the apes on one of the Planet of
<v Speaker 1>the Apes movies that John Landis was a part of too.
<v Speaker 2>Really, Rainfall Circle. When you say Rainbow Connection, I immediately
<v Speaker 2>why are I mean, that's incredible.
<v Speaker 1>If anybody's gonna if anybody's gonna pick up anything from
<v Speaker 1>this part podcast, it's that we love the Muppets.
<v Speaker 2>We love the Muppets. We absolutely love the Muppets.
<v Speaker 1>We haven't yet had a Muppet movie episode, but we will.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, for sure, we have to. Yeah, well you want
<v Speaker 2>here's my Muppet tie in. You ready for this? Other
<v Speaker 2>than Rainbow Connection, Cannonball Run, Huh, which is the second
<v Speaker 2>movie we're going to cover. Yes, was released June nineteenth,
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty one. Yes, We've talked about this on our
<v Speaker 2>Superman episode. Right, in my opinion, is the greatest two
<v Speaker 2>weeks in nineteen eighties movies history.
<v Speaker 1>Okayb in movies history overall, right, it is freaking fantastic.
<v Speaker 1>So let me let me read you.
<v Speaker 2>It just blows my mind. So June twelfth, nineteen eighty one,
<v Speaker 2>you had during this weekend, you had Clash of the Titans,
<v Speaker 2>History of the World and Raiders of the Lost Stark. The
<v Speaker 2>next week, June nineteenth, you have the Cannonball Run Superman two.
<v Speaker 2>The week after that you have Dragonslayer for your eyes
<v Speaker 2>only great Muppet caper and Stripes.
<v Speaker 1>And as John Reid would say, no, kid had any
<v Speaker 1>money in June of nineteen eighty one, No Eloys, all right, everybody,
<v Speaker 1>please stick around. We will be right back after these messages,
<v Speaker 1>he as Sam never been heard.
<v Speaker 2>So Cannonball Run was released June nineteenth, nineteen eighty one.
<v Speaker 2>Budget was eighteen million, and it made seventy two million
<v Speaker 2>dollars yep and over one hundred million worldwide, but seventy
<v Speaker 2>two here in the States. And that was sixth best
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty one. And I just read that Murderer's
<v Speaker 2>Row of awesome eighties movies.
<v Speaker 1>So we talked about the inspiration for smoking in the
<v Speaker 1>bandit being stolen Coors beer by the maid. The inspiration
<v Speaker 1>for Cannonball Run was an actual race. Brocky Eights is
<v Speaker 1>the guy who put on the race. He wrote for
<v Speaker 1>a magazine called The Cannonballer, and he was He's a
<v Speaker 1>car and driver guy. He's very into cars. As we know,
<v Speaker 1>how neat him is as well. How need him, by
<v Speaker 1>the way, was in the first attempt to break the
<v Speaker 1>or not the first attempt, but a famous attempt to
<v Speaker 1>break the sound barrier on land by driving a car
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred miles an hour and at six hundred and
<v Speaker 1>twenty miles an hour. He pushed his shoot and nothing happened.
<v Speaker 1>And then he pushed his second shoot and nothing happened.
<v Speaker 1>And then he pushed his third shoot and nothing happened.
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, oh, crap, I guess I'm just
<v Speaker 1>going to have to push on the brakes with my foot.
<v Speaker 1>And he fortunately wasn't injured. But when he went to inspect,
<v Speaker 1>and this is all that said. This is crazy to me,
<v Speaker 1>he says in his autobiography. And some individual who will
<v Speaker 1>remain nameless, had poured battery acid all over my parachutes.
<v Speaker 1>How do you not name the guy who tried to
<v Speaker 1>murder you? I don't know, I don't what.
<v Speaker 2>Views pay justice poured battery ascid all over it.
<v Speaker 1>So Hal Needham was great friends with Brockyates. They he
<v Speaker 1>had been doing the Cannonball Run race for a while.
<v Speaker 1>This was back whenever fifty five the speed limit across
<v Speaker 1>the United States, and so they thought, okay, well we're
<v Speaker 1>going to do this race and it's just going to
<v Speaker 1>be from coast to coast and everybody gets to pick
<v Speaker 1>whatever their own vehicle is and how and Rocky Yates
<v Speaker 1>drove a Dodge Van that they camouflaged as an ambulance,
<v Speaker 1>had had a Hemi engine in it. You could put
<v Speaker 1>ninety gallons of gas in there. They had four holes
<v Speaker 1>to put the gas in so that they didn't have
<v Speaker 1>to sit too long to fill up ninety gallons. You
<v Speaker 1>got four hoses going at the same time. And then
<v Speaker 1>whenever they hit the road, they were just going until
<v Speaker 1>there was a traffic gym, and then they turned on
<v Speaker 1>their lights. And he said the cars would part like
<v Speaker 1>the Red Sea.
<v Speaker 2>I heard him say this. He said the cars would
<v Speaker 2>part like Jesus partying in the Red Sea. I'm like, any,
<v Speaker 2>I guess not.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, this is an actual thing that
<v Speaker 4>he actually did with his buddy Brockiades.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the this van would go one hundred and forty
<v Speaker 1>five miles now and that's how fast Hal drove it.
<v Speaker 1>Like when how was driving, it was going one hundred
<v Speaker 1>and forty five miles an hour. And the scene where
<v Speaker 1>they get pulled over by the cops, that actually happened
<v Speaker 1>to him, Like he and Brockiates are driving this thing
<v Speaker 1>dressed as EMT's driving across the country. They get pulled
<v Speaker 1>over in Pennsylvania and he's and they get out and
<v Speaker 1>they're like, well where are you you know, where are
<v Speaker 1>you going? Well, this lady's sick, Well where are you
<v Speaker 1>taking her? California? California? Here Pennsylvania. And he was like, well,
<v Speaker 1>you know that she's got to go to California. There's
<v Speaker 1>something wrong with her. And they're like what is Why
<v Speaker 1>didn't you meta flight her? And they're like, I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>asked the doctor, And as it turned out, they had
<v Speaker 1>an actual doctor in the van with him who brought
<v Speaker 1>his wife. And when they opened the door, he's back there,
<v Speaker 1>just like Jackie Elum and they're like, hey, why why
<v Speaker 1>didn't couldn't you fly this lady over to California? And
<v Speaker 1>he goes because she has got a serious lung infection.
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's so serious we couldn't even take the
<v Speaker 1>northern route to California.
<v Speaker 2>That it's amazing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hal Needham said he thought about getting those guys
<v Speaker 1>to play the part of the cops in the movie,
<v Speaker 1>but then thought better of it, which is probably a
<v Speaker 1>good idea.
<v Speaker 2>I don't getting the actual cops to play the cops.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's awesome, So I got wrong.
<v Speaker 2>Dun dun, dun. Okay, So Cannonball Run. They thought about
<v Speaker 2>making an action movie was Steve McQueen, but he died.
<v Speaker 2>Then they decided, hey, let's call Burt Reynolds to make
<v Speaker 2>it a comedy, and they paid him. Listen to this,
<v Speaker 2>four weeks of work five million bucks.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the four weeks more than the entire budget for
<v Speaker 1>Smoking in the Bandit.
<v Speaker 2>Burt Reynolds said after doing the Smoking the Bandit movies,
<v Speaker 2>after he did Smoking the Bandit too, He's like, I'm
<v Speaker 2>never driving a car over thirty five miles an hour
<v Speaker 2>ever again. And they said, oh yeah, how about five
<v Speaker 2>million dollars for four weeks. He's like, done, Yeah, I'm in.
<v Speaker 1>Hal Needham said when he gave him a call, he
<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, I'll bring this over to you.
<v Speaker 1>I just want you to read the script. But they're
<v Speaker 1>willing to pay you five million dollars four weeks. And
<v Speaker 1>Burt Reynolds said, did you say five million dollars for
<v Speaker 1>four weeks? And he says yeah, And he says, I
<v Speaker 1>don't need the script. I'm in.
<v Speaker 2>The actual correct full name of the Canniball Run race
<v Speaker 2>is called the Cannibal Baker See to Shining Sea Memorial
<v Speaker 2>Trophy Dash. Should we go through the plot on this one.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, I've got forty five seconds go.
<v Speaker 2>JJ McClure played by Burt Reynolds is an adventurer who
<v Speaker 2>decides to partake in an illegal race across the country, using,
<v Speaker 2>like you said, an ambulance as cover. There's other racers
<v Speaker 2>including Farah Fawcet, Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Junior, Roger
<v Speaker 2>Moore as a very James Bond life character, and Jackie Chan.
<v Speaker 2>They'll do anything, break all the rules to outrun all
<v Speaker 2>the difficulties and win the race.
<v Speaker 1>Well, you've you've forgotten your foil, right, We've got viewfort
<v Speaker 1>Justice as the foil for Smoky in the Bandit as
<v Speaker 1>much as he is one, because he's really ineffectual. And
<v Speaker 1>our ineffectual foil for this movie is Arthur Foight, Mister Foyight,
<v Speaker 1>who is brilliant played by George Firth, whose other memorable
<v Speaker 1>part is from Blazing Saddles, which shares the commonality with
<v Speaker 1>these two movies in that completely politically incorrect.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, mister Foyd, every time he takes on the cannonball
<v Speaker 2>or something bad happens to him.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, he is such a good part of
<v Speaker 1>this movie. I love him and I'm gonna give a
<v Speaker 1>shout out to Arlin again. When we were discussing this,
<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, you know what, I'm pretty confident he
<v Speaker 1>was named after a race car driver. And I was
<v Speaker 1>like what. And it turns out there is a famous
<v Speaker 1>race car driver from this time period named AJ Foyight
<v Speaker 1>who did some amazing things but also had a very
<v Speaker 1>memorable like race car toy set. You remember seeing the
<v Speaker 1>AJ Foyight Racing team. I bet some of our listeners
<v Speaker 1>out there will remember that one.
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that, but I've heard that name before.
<v Speaker 1>So AJ Foyt was the only driver to win the
<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis five hundred, which he won four times, the Daytona
<v Speaker 1>five hundred, the twenty four hour Daytona, and the twenty
<v Speaker 1>four hours of Lamon's. That's pretty freaking impressive.
<v Speaker 2>That's impressive.
<v Speaker 1>There's no question that George Firth's character is named after
<v Speaker 1>this guy as kind of a wink and orknot mister Foyight.
<v Speaker 2>So you have this cast of crazy characters, right, You've
<v Speaker 2>got Jackie Chan and Michael.
<v Speaker 1>Qui and it's probably not something anything close. It's probably
<v Speaker 1>like Smith right exactly.
<v Speaker 2>You've got Adrian Barbo and Tara Buckman in the Lambo
<v Speaker 2>the Lambeo Girls.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Tara Buckman, by the way, was also in Sheriff
<v Speaker 1>Lobo and bj and the Bear, which of course were
<v Speaker 1>TV things that were kind of spawned by Smokey in
<v Speaker 1>the Bandit. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>You have Seymour Goldfarb, who thinks he's not James Bond.
<v Speaker 2>He thinks he's Roger Moore.
<v Speaker 1>Right, because you can't say James Bond in the movie
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get.
<v Speaker 2>Sued, That's right. You have the Shekh played by Jamie Farr.
<v Speaker 2>You have Mel Tillis and Terry Bradshaw. Yeah, you've got
<v Speaker 2>Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Junior as priests in a
<v Speaker 2>Ferrari doing the Lord's work. Just faster.
<v Speaker 1>Be Ferrari. By the way, is how Needam's car that
<v Speaker 1>was his actual car?
<v Speaker 2>So was the ambulance?
<v Speaker 1>Right, So the ambulance that they use in the Cannonball
<v Speaker 1>Run is the same ambulance that Brockyates and how Needam
<v Speaker 1>used to do their actual cannonball race. Say bitch one
<v Speaker 1>they okay? So I said that it goes one hundred
<v Speaker 1>and forty five miles an hour. They averaged eighty miles
<v Speaker 1>an hour average That means including stops and phillips and
<v Speaker 1>all of that averaged eighty five miles an hour. Were
<v Speaker 1>completely in the lead, and then the transmission went out
<v Speaker 1>and just like in the movie, they had to get
<v Speaker 1>loaded up on the back of a semi truck bed.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, according to which car dot com, America's most illegal
<v Speaker 2>record has been obliterated. This is May fifteenth, twenty twenty.
<v Speaker 2>The Cannonball Run, which had been the record cross country
<v Speaker 2>from Connecticut to California, was twenty eight hours. Now it's
<v Speaker 2>less than twenty six hours. And the reason why is
<v Speaker 2>because everybody was off the road in quarantine. Oh man,
<v Speaker 2>the Cannonball run record has been beaten seven times in
<v Speaker 2>the past five weeks. So apparently the Canniball Run is
<v Speaker 2>still alive and well time to be twenty six hours.
<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, please stick around. We will be right
<v Speaker 1>back after these messages. So a couple other folks that
<v Speaker 1>are a little less known. You've got Mad Dog, who
<v Speaker 1>is played by Rick Aviels. But then the other guy
<v Speaker 1>who was riding with him, the no breaks. It's the
<v Speaker 1>no breaks gag. It gets him every.
<v Speaker 2>Time you got the brace.
<v Speaker 1>That guy was played by Alfie Wise. His character's name
<v Speaker 1>was Batman. I don't think I even knew that. But
<v Speaker 1>you know what else? Alfie Wise was in No Smoky
<v Speaker 1>in the Bandit what you get that piece off my
<v Speaker 1>high way?
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Are you serious?
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yes, he was like, and it's O there's evidence
<v Speaker 1>in a crap? Oh no, give a crap? What it
<v Speaker 1>is you.
<v Speaker 2>Get that pieces off my highway? Don't you raise your
<v Speaker 2>voice to me? You know who else? Okay, So we
<v Speaker 2>got Burt Reynolds and Don del Luise, Farah Fawcett and
<v Speaker 2>Jack Elam in the ambulance. Okay, hold on, hold on,
<v Speaker 2>hold on, Sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself.
<v Speaker 1>Can you say Farah Fawcett.
<v Speaker 2>Again, Farah Fawcet.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's just dwell on that for a moment. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>did everybody just think of the poster? Because I'm pretty
<v Speaker 1>sure everybody just thought of the poster right now? Is
<v Speaker 1>that what you thought of? That's what I thought of.
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't want to bra the entire movie either.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you wore brought her entire life. God
<v Speaker 1>bless her.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've got Adrian Barbo and Tara Buckman in the Lamborghini,
<v Speaker 2>you've got Roger Moore and a different girl every five seconds.
<v Speaker 2>In the aston Martin, you've got Dean Martin, Sava Davis Junior.
<v Speaker 2>In the Ferrari, you've got Jackie Chan and Michael Hui.
<v Speaker 2>And the Suzuki, you've got the Sheikh in a Rolls Royce,
<v Speaker 2>You've got mel Tillis and Terry Bradshaw in the Hawaiian
<v Speaker 2>Tropic Car.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry you take this, keep it. The change leaves comes back,
<v Speaker 1>get a physical.
<v Speaker 2>I will be back for you, my desert flower. The
<v Speaker 2>cast in Kenniball Run is amazing. When I was watching
<v Speaker 2>the commentary, they talked about how at the beginning of
<v Speaker 2>the movie, you've seen the Lamborghini just scream down these
<v Speaker 2>roads and it's like Burt Reynolds and then Dom Delawise.
<v Speaker 2>It's these single name cards, right that when it was
<v Speaker 2>first played like opening night, people started to cheer. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>the cast in this movie is amazing.
<v Speaker 1>Right, And it was. I mean, it was another one
<v Speaker 1>of those that they had these big plans, but it
<v Speaker 1>wasn't until Bert said five million for four weeks. I
<v Speaker 1>don't need to see the script. Once he was in,
<v Speaker 1>everyone else fell into place. You had your rat pat guys,
<v Speaker 1>and the part of Sammy Davis Junior was actually supposed
<v Speaker 1>to be played by Don Rickles at first, but because
<v Speaker 1>Dom Delauise was in the movie and Don Rickles had
<v Speaker 1>this kind of competition going about who was the best
<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas at the time, he's like, nah, I
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be in that movie. And so Sammy
<v Speaker 1>Davis comes in. You know, it was a Jewish name,
<v Speaker 1>Samuel Wurk and uh, because you're small, sam mall.
<v Speaker 2>God is our co pilot. Where is he gonna sit?
<v Speaker 2>We only got two seats.
<v Speaker 1>So they make the movie. And after the movie comes out,
<v Speaker 1>Frank Sinatra, who wasn't in the movie, is like, why
<v Speaker 1>didn't I get to be in the movie? Everybody else
<v Speaker 1>got the movie. I don't in the movie, So they
<v Speaker 1>put him in. They put him in Part two, which,
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Hall Needam said, I was always the
<v Speaker 1>first guy on the set, But when Frank was there
<v Speaker 1>for his shooting, I arrived to the set and he
<v Speaker 1>had he was already done with makeup and waiting for me.
<v Speaker 1>He's really been on his own little private jet. Did
<v Speaker 1>his scene and out like a pro. The chairman of
<v Speaker 1>the board Okay, so one super famous guy that you
<v Speaker 1>haven't mentioned yet is Peter Fonda, right right, right right.
<v Speaker 1>Peter Fonda was the leader of the Motorcycle Gang, which
<v Speaker 1>is perfect because not too long before this movie he
<v Speaker 1>had done Easy Rider, the motorcycle movie. Right right right.
<v Speaker 1>How Needham's cameraman was actually a friend of Peter Fonda's,
<v Speaker 1>and Peter Fonda heard about the movie and said, Hey,
<v Speaker 1>could I be in the movie? I mean, this movie
<v Speaker 1>is just about a bunch of these guys getting together
<v Speaker 1>and having a good time.
<v Speaker 2>It really is.
<v Speaker 1>It's just fun. You don't have to come in with
<v Speaker 1>any expectations. You just get in there and you see
<v Speaker 1>them all having fun together, and you're along for the ride.
<v Speaker 1>It is wonderful.
<v Speaker 2>I have fun every time I watch this movie. It's
<v Speaker 2>like being a part of a you know, something special.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 2>It's They talked about how at the hotel they stayed
<v Speaker 2>in every night as a group, they'd wrap up, they'd
<v Speaker 2>get some drinks, they'd watch dailies.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh. He would invite the crew to watch the dailies,
<v Speaker 1>which was uncommon. Usually it would just be the actors
<v Speaker 1>watching their own performances in the dailies. But he invited
<v Speaker 1>the crew because he figured, Hey, if the guys who
<v Speaker 1>spent you know, eight hours shooting this scene the day
<v Speaker 1>before are laughing at it, that means that we did
<v Speaker 1>something right. Right exact, if he went into a bar
<v Speaker 1>and some of his crew was in the bar, he
<v Speaker 1>would never let him buy a drink. He was really
<v Speaker 1>a very down to earth director. And then he you know,
<v Speaker 1>we talked about the famous people that he put in there.
<v Speaker 1>He had his secretary was in there. She was one
<v Speaker 1>of the people taking the entry cards. The other lady
<v Speaker 1>was Brockiates, his wife. He put his business manager in there.
<v Speaker 1>She's the one at the end screaming, help help my baby.
<v Speaker 1>He's drowning. And then you remember the scene where the
<v Speaker 1>two priests where Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Junior are
<v Speaker 1>over there talking about how to pick up the girls
<v Speaker 1>in the bar. Yeah, I was just listening in and
<v Speaker 1>eventually does a spit take. That was his accountant. That
<v Speaker 1>was the accountant for the come on, let's come on,
<v Speaker 1>let's just be a part of let's all do this
<v Speaker 1>fun thing together. That is what defines these movies to
<v Speaker 1>me is we're not looking at some sort of marvelous, cinematic,
<v Speaker 1>epic thing. We're looking at people getting together and having
<v Speaker 1>a good time and in biting us along for the ride.
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. Here's something for you to look
<v Speaker 2>for the next time you watch Canniball Run. Okay, the
<v Speaker 2>continuity errors with Adrian Barbo zipper. I'm not kidding. When
<v Speaker 2>she's pulled over in Pennsylvania, it's up, it's down, it's up,
<v Speaker 2>it's down. She end zips it once. It's it's funny.
<v Speaker 1>Makes she liked to play with her zipper a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>That guy who played the cop in Pennsylvania, the guy
<v Speaker 2>that she's dazzling with her zipper is Burt Reynolds stand
<v Speaker 2>in Yeah, and you can tell just by looking at him.
<v Speaker 2>He looked He's got the same mustache, same kind of
<v Speaker 2>dark hair, and that was his stand in. Oh, you
<v Speaker 2>know who else is in Cannibal Run. You've got Bianca Jagger,
<v Speaker 2>who is Mick Jagger's wife, right, she's sister. You had
<v Speaker 2>Joe Klecko, who played nose tackle or nose guard for
<v Speaker 2>the New York Jets.
<v Speaker 1>He was the guy who's lifting up the van instead
<v Speaker 1>of using the jack and he was actually lifting that van.
<v Speaker 1>That guy was a big mother effort. He was huge.
<v Speaker 2>He's huge. You have Jimmy the Greek.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, story there along with the political incorrectness of these movies, right,
<v Speaker 1>you get Jimmy the Greek.
<v Speaker 2>I love it when Sammy Davis Junior comes up and says,
<v Speaker 2>Sir James like calls him, Sir James.
<v Speaker 1>For some reason, We've got God is our coke pilot.
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna need him.
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about twenty big large ones. Sammy Davis Junior
<v Speaker 2>is hilarious in this movie.
<v Speaker 1>Oh brilliant, just brilliant. Oh all right, everybody, please stick around.
<v Speaker 1>We will be right back after these messages.
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's flit back smugging to Bannon. Okay, So
<v Speaker 2>they make it to text ar caanaon in like ten minutes,
<v Speaker 2>right right, Which is funny because this was not shot
<v Speaker 2>in Texas, Canada, Texas. This was shot in Jonesboro, Georgia. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>Cletus's house the place where they shot Cletus's house, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>the warehouse where they pick up all the beer. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>where they use the forklift where he can drive any
<v Speaker 2>forking thing around. That was about half a mile from
<v Speaker 2>that house. Nice, but The first scene I really want
<v Speaker 2>to talk to you about is when Sally Field leaves
<v Speaker 2>the wedding, her own wedding. She leaves Junior at the
<v Speaker 2>altar brand it picks her up, they take off, and
<v Speaker 2>the car left behind says just married on it. There's
<v Speaker 2>some vandals that come and show up. Right, my favorite,
<v Speaker 2>Jackie Gleason shows up.
<v Speaker 5>Don't you leave, don't get no lunch, don't play with yourself.
<v Speaker 5>You can think about it, but don't do it.
<v Speaker 2>I'd like, he's such a respected bad ay. He walked
<v Speaker 2>up to the first guy and he's like, you look tired, boy,
<v Speaker 2>rest yourself, bars around like immediately spreads him, you know
<v Speaker 2>the nuts. Yeah. Then he walks up and kicks that
<v Speaker 2>guy in the butt and he's like, that wasn't attention
<v Speaker 2>get her? That part is hilarious and it establishes that
<v Speaker 2>Jackie Gleeson is somebody who's serious and not to be
<v Speaker 2>messed with, right.
<v Speaker 1>Right, but also hold out of the car and his tucks.
<v Speaker 1>And it's at that point, you know, it's weird to
<v Speaker 1>me that they explain the illegality of transporting Coors beer
<v Speaker 1>across state lines about three times in this movie. Right,
<v Speaker 1>make sure you understand it, but they just kind of
<v Speaker 1>cruise on over the fact that Junior's in the tucks
<v Speaker 1>and that's his bride. It takes. They don't give you
<v Speaker 1>that explanation. You just got it. You got to kind
<v Speaker 1>of get there, right, which is good. I mean, that's
<v Speaker 1>good that they don't dumb it down for you. But
<v Speaker 1>it's interestingly decided to dumb down the cores things. And
<v Speaker 1>as if anybody couldn't figure that part out.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's a scene where the cops are onto Bandit
<v Speaker 2>and he takes them down a country road and he
<v Speaker 2>realizes all the craft the bridge is out, so he says,
<v Speaker 2>that's not good. Turns around, cops are coming, he said,
<v Speaker 2>and that's even worse. When he wheels around, he's going
<v Speaker 2>to jump this bridge and they hit the spectacular bridge
<v Speaker 2>jump in the movie. Yeah, that jump when you see
<v Speaker 2>it on film, that car is so high in the
<v Speaker 2>air it's freaking unbelievable. It's dukes of hazard times ten.
<v Speaker 1>Right, So how Needham has this deal with rockets like
<v Speaker 1>that's his special deal. One of the first movies that
<v Speaker 1>you see a car flipp it like they had to
<v Speaker 1>try to figure out how to flip a car over
<v Speaker 1>on the beach, right, And you know, normally when you
<v Speaker 1>flip a car over, you're going to have to have
<v Speaker 1>like a bush or another car or something like that
<v Speaker 1>to create the ramp so that the car can be flipped.
<v Speaker 1>But they're out trying to do this on the beach
<v Speaker 1>and they don't know how to do it. And so
<v Speaker 1>how Needham says, well, why don't we just put a
<v Speaker 1>rocket in the floorboard. And of course how need HM's
<v Speaker 1>the stunt man at this point, he's going to car.
<v Speaker 1>They put the rocket in the floorboard. He's driving his
<v Speaker 1>car and he says, they hit the rocket and all
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I realized I was sixty feet in
<v Speaker 1>the air and going backwards, and I thought, this is
<v Speaker 1>not going according to plan. He said the pain was
<v Speaker 1>something that morphine didn't seem to have any effect on.
<v Speaker 2>This guy is an amazing guy. Like I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if we talked off air, Ora, but hell need him
<v Speaker 2>is a guy that I would love to have his
<v Speaker 2>life for like a few days. So he man director
<v Speaker 2>tons of Hollywood friends and girls and parties and right, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>well that's.
<v Speaker 1>The interesting social connection because most of the people who
<v Speaker 1>were in Cannonball Run. He got to know through like
<v Speaker 1>these Hollywood parties that he would go to with his wife.
<v Speaker 1>Like his wife was this actress named Danny Crane who's
<v Speaker 1>just absolutely gorgeous. I mean, she potentially is another Marilyn
<v Speaker 1>Monroe or Jane Mansfield, but she goes to these Hollywood
<v Speaker 1>parties and that's how he ends up meeting half of
<v Speaker 1>the people that are in Cannonball Run. And I said
<v Speaker 1>to you earlier, I don't you know, I got nothing
<v Speaker 1>to prove this, but I got a strong impression that
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of there's a lot of swinging.
<v Speaker 2>Happening to Swing, right, Yeah, for sure, a lot of swinging.
<v Speaker 1>Did you just say this to Swing Yeah, singer Sona.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I get the impression that there's some cocaine and
<v Speaker 2>swinging for sure. You know, Pontiac gave them four trans
<v Speaker 2>ams to use during the course of the film. In
<v Speaker 2>this movie, on that bridge jump, they totally destroyed one car.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had four Pontiac transims. By the way, about
<v Speaker 1>four years ago they introduced a bandit special trans am.
<v Speaker 1>Do you know about this?
<v Speaker 2>You send this to me, I want one, I got out.
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, they only made seventy seven of them. How
<v Speaker 1>awesome is that it's seventy seven because the year bandit
<v Speaker 1>came out with seventy seven, it was supposed to be
<v Speaker 1>a seventy seven transam, although I think what they did
<v Speaker 1>actually is they put the the front of the seventy
<v Speaker 1>seven on the back or on the car of a
<v Speaker 1>seventy six. But Yeah, by the time this movie was
<v Speaker 1>over all, of all of the four that they had received,
<v Speaker 1>plus a couple of other extra cars had been totally
<v Speaker 1>demolished and like three of them became the parts for
<v Speaker 1>the fourth one that which could still drive down the road.
<v Speaker 2>Right. I wanted to talk briefly about Fred the bassett Hound.
<v Speaker 1>And the beauty contest, Yeah, or is it the ugly contest?
<v Speaker 2>Ugly contest?
<v Speaker 1>Yes.
<v Speaker 2>So before the movie started, they had a contest to
<v Speaker 2>bring your dog up for a chance to be in
<v Speaker 2>the movie, and Burt Realds was the judge, and he
<v Speaker 2>picked Fred the basset hound, who is actually named Happy.
<v Speaker 2>Picked him chiefly because it refused to obey any commands.
<v Speaker 1>Free get on back here.
<v Speaker 2>Beauverty Justice was the name of a real Florida Highway
<v Speaker 2>patrolman known to Burt Reland's father who was once the
<v Speaker 2>chief of police in Jupiter, Florida. And I also thought
<v Speaker 2>it was funny that Burt Reynolds dad use the term
<v Speaker 2>some bad all the time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some where are you you so much?
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when Jerry Reid was in that episode
<v Speaker 2>of Scooby Doo. It's like the ghost that haunts the
<v Speaker 2>Grand old Opry and they kidnapped.
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Reid and might actually kind of remember that he
<v Speaker 1>just like opened a drawer and a small cabb on
<v Speaker 1>the mental mansion that has not been opened in about
<v Speaker 1>thirty five years? Is what? What did? Yes? I think
<v Speaker 1>I do remember that.
<v Speaker 2>What the way they found him in Scooby Doo was
<v Speaker 2>They just they told him just to sing and so
<v Speaker 2>is a chance for him to have this song montage
<v Speaker 2>while they looked around for him?
<v Speaker 1>Well it looks like that, does it? For this episode?
<v Speaker 1>Jason just send the bill to big enis burdett.
<v Speaker 2>Uh big big enis verdet uh b uh bu b
<v Speaker 2>be hell I got to go. We

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