Episode 321

Sword and Scale

When 41-year-old Erika Huff opened her home to a man in need, she believed she was doing the right thing, but that simple act of kindness would cost her everything. Erika’s generosity was repaid with unthinkable violence, leaving her dead, her mother barely alive, and a community searching for justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence, and is
<v Speaker 1>not intended for all audiences.
<v Speaker 2>Listener discretion is advised. He came over in the corner
<v Speaker 2>with a hammer and just started beating me, unmercifully, just
<v Speaker 2>beating me and beating me, and the blood was discussing.
<v Speaker 2>He said, all of you have just stitched.
<v Speaker 3>Me, and I've got to kill you.
<v Speaker 4>You've likely heard the phrase kindness is its own reward.
<v Speaker 4>This is a belief many of us have. They good
<v Speaker 4>deeds might bring a little good karma, and then helping
<v Speaker 4>someone in need is just the right thing to do.
<v Speaker 4>Most of the time that belief proves true, but not always.
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes kindness is twisted into something dark and ruthless. A
<v Speaker 4>simple favorite can spiral into a choice that should never
<v Speaker 4>have been made. There's another saying, one that speaks to
<v Speaker 4>the crueler side of fate. No good deed goes unpunished,
<v Speaker 4>and in the rarest most brutal cases, an act of
<v Speaker 4>generosity doesn't only lead to regret. It leads to suffering.
<v Speaker 4>It leads to bloodshed, it leads to death.
<v Speaker 5>This is Guardian Medical. Do you dispatch for medical police
<v Speaker 5>or is it an different number? Okay, we have a
<v Speaker 5>medical alert for client at forty four Cleveland Street.
<v Speaker 4>At around two am on November sixth, twenty fifteen, in Youngstown, Ohio,
<v Speaker 4>nine to one one Dispatch received a call from the
<v Speaker 4>healthcare provider, Guardian Medical. They requested that an ambulance be
<v Speaker 4>said to the home of one of their clients.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's going on there?
<v Speaker 5>We had the medical alert to go off and we
<v Speaker 5>did not be seeper response over the phone or over
<v Speaker 5>the two way And can you tell me about the
<v Speaker 5>patient here or honestly I'm showing is that she has
<v Speaker 5>MS and cannot walk and the age they have bound
<v Speaker 5>is forty one.
<v Speaker 1>What's her name, Erica Huff.
<v Speaker 4>After this call came in, an ambulance was quickly dispatched
<v Speaker 4>to the home of forty one year old Erica Huff.
<v Speaker 6>Guardian Medical call, They want you to go to forty
<v Speaker 6>four Cleveland Street.
<v Speaker 1>The alarm went off there.
<v Speaker 6>And they didn't say what was wrong, right, No, they
<v Speaker 6>didn't make any contact with her.
<v Speaker 1>It's a forty one year old female, Erica Huff. She
<v Speaker 1>has MS and cannot walk. Yeah, I think we've been
<v Speaker 1>there before. Forty four Cleveland right.
<v Speaker 7>Good.
<v Speaker 1>More than thank you.
<v Speaker 4>This wasn't the first time emergency services had been called
<v Speaker 4>to Erica's house, and on the surface, it seemed like
<v Speaker 4>just another routine call. But in less than two hours,
<v Speaker 4>that assumption would be shattered. What started as a simple
<v Speaker 4>ambulance dispatch spiraled into chaos. Three ambulances, two fire trucks,
<v Speaker 4>and several police officers would descend on Erica's home. Among
<v Speaker 4>the many people who arrived was a homicide detective.
<v Speaker 8>My name is Ron Roadway, my official title. In twenty fifteen,
<v Speaker 8>I was detective sergeant with the Youngstown Police Department, assigned
<v Speaker 8>to the homicide bureau. Erica Huff was a forty one
<v Speaker 8>year old who resided on the south side of Youngstown.
<v Speaker 8>She had a severe handicap and health issues. She had
<v Speaker 8>multiple carosis ms, she was bedridden. She didn't live by herself,
<v Speaker 8>but she had health aids with her. Her mother was
<v Speaker 8>pretty active in her life, helping her out.
<v Speaker 4>Erica Huff relied on a wheelchair to get around and
<v Speaker 4>needed daily assistance with even the most basic tasks like bathing,
<v Speaker 4>preparing meals, and doing laundry, things most of us take
<v Speaker 4>for granted. Living with multiple sclerosis is no walk in
<v Speaker 4>the park. The disease, which attacks the brain and spinal cord,
<v Speaker 4>can cause extreme fatigue, muscle weakness, severe pain, and a
<v Speaker 4>host of other debilitating symptoms. Fortunately, Erica had a loving
<v Speaker 4>mother and stepfather who cared for as well as in
<v Speaker 4>home caregivers from the company comfort Keepers who checked on
<v Speaker 4>her regularly. Perhaps the hardest part for Erica wasn't her
<v Speaker 4>own suffering, It was the fact she couldn't care for
<v Speaker 4>her five year old daughter. Her illness made motherhood an
<v Speaker 4>uphill battle, forcing her to rely on her mom and
<v Speaker 4>stepdad to raise the little girl. No matter how much
<v Speaker 4>she loved her child. Multiple sclerosis had stolen the simple
<v Speaker 4>joys of being a hands on parent. But despite all
<v Speaker 4>these challenges, Erica did her best to push through each day. Then,
<v Speaker 4>on November sixth, twenty fifteen, her already challenging life turned
<v Speaker 4>into a nightmare.
<v Speaker 8>On November sixth, twenty fifteen, the first call I Believe
<v Speaker 8>went out around two o'clock in the morning two o'clock am.
<v Speaker 8>It was a medical alert from the home of Erica
<v Speaker 8>Huff on Cleveland Street. EMTs and an ambulance responded to.
<v Speaker 4>The home that morning. Erica's life Alert necklace was activated
<v Speaker 4>triggering an ambulance dispatch. For the next hour or so,
<v Speaker 4>all was quiet. The responding paramedics never requested assistance or
<v Speaker 4>called in an update. Then, at around two forty five am,
<v Speaker 4>nine to one one received a second call, this time
<v Speaker 4>from a man named Lonnie Johnson Town One.
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, this is Lonnie, forty four Cleveland. My wife come
<v Speaker 9>over because of my daughter.
<v Speaker 10>Her daughter's along with a house, and so she came
<v Speaker 10>over here to see what's going on. And then it
<v Speaker 10>was taking so long. Each time I called, nobody answered.
<v Speaker 10>So I came over here and she hollered, run run,
<v Speaker 10>and she screamed aloud, and I'm not gonna set the door,
<v Speaker 10>but the lights are off. Now.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on in that house.
<v Speaker 9>I don't want to go in there. And some that
<v Speaker 9>and happened.
<v Speaker 10>I need to cop to come to forty four Cleveland
<v Speaker 10>Street in Youngstown, Ohio.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, are you still there? Though?
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I'm I'm I'm about maybe a two or three
<v Speaker 10>colleagues away from that house. Because Ronnie Johnson Jr.
<v Speaker 1>She screamed and told me.
<v Speaker 11>To run run Lonnie, run, And.
<v Speaker 10>I went to go to the door and I turned
<v Speaker 10>around and called come back and call you guys cause
<v Speaker 10>something and then the light everything is off in that house.
<v Speaker 10>The light's off.
<v Speaker 9>I don't know what's going on. I need some help.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wellsten, tomw okay, ca very please.
<v Speaker 4>Following Lonnie's call, police were sent to Erica's house, but
<v Speaker 4>their arrival wasn't as fast as Lonnie had hoped.
<v Speaker 1>Yankstown nine on one.
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I just called out long ago and asked him
<v Speaker 10>for a police to come the forty fourth Cleveland Street.
<v Speaker 12>They're on their way.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh wow, okay, okay bye.
<v Speaker 4>Growing impatient, Lonnie called nine one one a second time. Meanwhile,
<v Speaker 4>dispatchers were struggling to understand why police were being sent
<v Speaker 4>to the same address where an ambulance had already been dispatched.
<v Speaker 4>Why hadn't they heard anything from the paramedics on scene.
<v Speaker 6>Did you transport the lady from forty four Cleveland or Cleveland?
<v Speaker 13>Oh that was the medical warm Yeah.
<v Speaker 14>No, it was false alarm.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, it was a false alarm. Once we finally
<v Speaker 1>go out there, it was false. They didn't take her nowhere.
<v Speaker 4>Strangely, the ambulance paramedics reported the initial call as a
<v Speaker 4>false alarm, but when police showed up about an hour later.
<v Speaker 4>It was immediately obvious that something was terribly wrong. Smoke
<v Speaker 4>was pouring out of Erica's windows. Her house was on fire.
<v Speaker 4>Officers quickly requested fire trucks and more ambulances.
<v Speaker 1>I think we need you back at forty four Cleveland.
<v Speaker 15>Okay, what's going on there?
<v Speaker 1>Okay? I sent you guys there before for an alarm,
<v Speaker 1>and now the police were called there.
<v Speaker 6>Some guy called the police there and they're saying there's
<v Speaker 6>a deceased female.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't know.
<v Speaker 6>They got the fire department on the way there now
<v Speaker 6>and to gain entry to get into then too ambulances.
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what's going on, and I think for
<v Speaker 6>two yes.
<v Speaker 4>Not long after arriving on scene, the responding police officers
<v Speaker 4>made a chilling discovery. They found a dead body.
<v Speaker 1>I still don't know.
<v Speaker 6>He was saying there was a dead body there, didn't
<v Speaker 6>I asked for the fire department, and then I asked
<v Speaker 6>for another ambulance.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.
<v Speaker 16>Now markets got unseen and said that there's an occupied
<v Speaker 16>structure fire there.
<v Speaker 1>We only sent one truck. We didn't call for no.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, now they're calling for another a go on.
<v Speaker 7>Now they're requesting ladder truck and battalion too. So I'm
<v Speaker 7>not sure exactly what's going on. I just wanted to
<v Speaker 7>give you a headtipths Inspire Department is involved and there's
<v Speaker 7>a dead body there.
<v Speaker 4>As more cops, firefighters, and paramedics arrived, dispatchers scrambled to
<v Speaker 4>gather information, trying to make sense of the chaos, but
<v Speaker 4>one detail stood out. The original emergency call had been
<v Speaker 4>dismissed as a false alarm. But why what had actually
<v Speaker 4>happened with the first ambulance?
<v Speaker 17>What do they have going on there?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, they got a medical alarm.
<v Speaker 18>They fed at fifty five to fifty five, got there,
<v Speaker 18>said it was a false alarm, goes they're not something door,
<v Speaker 18>somebody says run, he calls unknown trouble. They get there
<v Speaker 18>and say they have a dead female. They have a
<v Speaker 18>dead female there, apparently that's what they officer said when
<v Speaker 18>they got there. Okay, that's all they know that a
<v Speaker 18>dead femail enough.
<v Speaker 6>How did you guys determine that it was a false
<v Speaker 6>alarm on Cleveland Street?
<v Speaker 16>They actually, our courage just told us that a thirty
<v Speaker 16>something or so. Your old male he answered the door
<v Speaker 16>and said everything's fine.
<v Speaker 15>It was a false alarm.
<v Speaker 6>Thirty something ish year olds he may have thirty something
<v Speaker 6>year old male right.
<v Speaker 1>Answered the door and said everything was okay. It was
<v Speaker 1>a false Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>It turned out that when paramedics reached Erica's home, a
<v Speaker 4>man waved them off, insisting there was no emergency. Without
<v Speaker 4>verifying anything, the paramedics left, never checking on Erica, never
<v Speaker 4>stepping inside her house. That decision would prove to be disastrous. Eventually,
<v Speaker 4>Detective Ron Roadway arrived on the scene and spoke with
<v Speaker 4>the responding officers. It began trying to make sense of
<v Speaker 4>the mayhem.
<v Speaker 8>Officers were dispatched to the Cleveland Street residents. When they arrived,
<v Speaker 8>they of course were going to run the primitive house.
<v Speaker 8>They heard and then noticed that the air conditioning y'ared
<v Speaker 8>out of one of the bedrooms was being pushed out.
<v Speaker 1>We got there. It was weird.
<v Speaker 17>You hear the alarm going off, and we go to
<v Speaker 17>the back and then Thowe was trying to push out
<v Speaker 17>the air conditioner in the back.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 7>And we opened the.
<v Speaker 17>Window and ripped the air conditioner out, pulled this woman
<v Speaker 17>out and she was bloody head to toe, and then
<v Speaker 17>the other woman within their dead.
<v Speaker 8>And that's when they made entry into the house and
<v Speaker 8>discovered two victims in the house.
<v Speaker 4>As officers approached the back of the burning home, they
<v Speaker 4>spotted movement. A person was trying to escape the house
<v Speaker 4>by pushing an air conditioner out of a window. Police
<v Speaker 4>rushed to assist, pulling a bloody woman from the bedroom window.
<v Speaker 4>She'd been beaten nearly to death. Inside that same room,
<v Speaker 4>lying on the floor and surrounded by flames, was another woman.
<v Speaker 4>She was dead, her body was battered, her skin singed
<v Speaker 4>by the growing fire. The police pushed into the house
<v Speaker 4>through the back door. In the dining room, they found
<v Speaker 4>yet another person, a man collapsed under a table, seemingly unconscious.
<v Speaker 17>Our guys went there for unknown trouble. Founded deceased female,
<v Speaker 17>fears to be beaten to death. Found another female beat
<v Speaker 17>almost to deaf. Found a male almost almost dead. They
<v Speaker 17>not really sure what happened with him. And their house
<v Speaker 17>was on fire. Somebody set the house on fire trying to.
<v Speaker 1>Cover it up.
<v Speaker 17>No shit, Yeah though, fd's trying to put the fire
<v Speaker 17>out without disturbing the crime.
<v Speaker 7>Scene too much.
<v Speaker 1>But we got at least one dead right now and.
<v Speaker 7>Two that are circling the drain.
<v Speaker 4>In total, three people were pulled from Erica's burning home,
<v Speaker 4>two women and a man. One of them had already
<v Speaker 4>lost their life, and the two others were rushed to
<v Speaker 4>a nearby hospital. As firefighters worked to put out the fire,
<v Speaker 4>Detective Ron Roadway prepared for what he knew would be
<v Speaker 4>a long, grueling investigation. By the time the case was closed,
<v Speaker 4>multiple charges had been filed, including murder and attempted murder,
<v Speaker 4>and in the end, thanks to the relentless efforts of investigators,
<v Speaker 4>a violent and ruthless killer would face the ultimate punishment.
<v Speaker 4>On the morning of November sixth, twenty fifteen, an ambulance
<v Speaker 4>was dispatched to the home of forty one year old
<v Speaker 4>Erica Huff, who suffered from multiple sclerosis, but when the
<v Speaker 4>paramedics arrived, a man outside the house waved them off,
<v Speaker 4>insisting there was no emergency and that Erica was fine.
<v Speaker 4>They left without ever stepping inside.
<v Speaker 6>Okay, Originally, at two o'clock we got a call from
<v Speaker 6>the medical alarm people.
<v Speaker 1>Guardian Medical said that there was an.
<v Speaker 6>Alarm and they didn't have any contact with the person
<v Speaker 6>that living at that house, so I had to send
<v Speaker 6>an ambulance.
<v Speaker 1>There was a medical alarm.
<v Speaker 6>The ambulance responded and they cleared it. Some guy answered
<v Speaker 6>the door when they got there and said that it
<v Speaker 6>was a false alarm. Everything was okay and send them away,
<v Speaker 6>and then all hell broke loose.
<v Speaker 4>Shortly after paramedics drove away, a chilling nine to one
<v Speaker 4>one call came in. This time it wasn't a request
<v Speaker 4>for an ambulance, it was a call for police.
<v Speaker 6>And then almost an hour later I looked up in
<v Speaker 6>the addresses on the screen again, this guy named Ronnie
<v Speaker 6>call and he said that he got to the door
<v Speaker 6>somebody yelled run.
<v Speaker 1>The house was dark and he didn't know what was
<v Speaker 1>going on. So that's when she put in unknown trouble.
<v Speaker 4>Officers responded to the call, unsure of what they were
<v Speaker 4>walking into. When they arrived, they found part of the
<v Speaker 4>house was on fire. Before the flames spread, they managed
<v Speaker 4>to pull two women from the home. Both had been
<v Speaker 4>savagely beaten, their bodies drenched in blood. One of them
<v Speaker 4>was dead and the other was barely clinging to life. Eventually,
<v Speaker 4>a Youngstown, oh Ohio prosecutor joined the investigation, and the
<v Speaker 4>deceased woman's identity was confirmed. It was Erica Huff.
<v Speaker 12>My name is Don Candello Mesa. In twenty fifteen, I
<v Speaker 12>was the chief trial Counsel for the Mahoning County Prosecutor's Office.
<v Speaker 12>In twenty fifteen, Erica Huff was forty one years old.
<v Speaker 12>She was a mother, a sister, a daughter, as she
<v Speaker 12>lived in Youngstown, Ohio. She had debilitating MS and she
<v Speaker 12>was in a wheelchair at that point. She hadn't always
<v Speaker 12>been in a wheelchair, but at that point she was,
<v Speaker 12>and she had some home health care aids that would
<v Speaker 12>come and help her get ready for bed and cook
<v Speaker 12>and do other things around the house. She had a
<v Speaker 12>five year old daughter who stayed with her parents, also
<v Speaker 12>in Youngstown, and she would visit often with her daughter,
<v Speaker 12>but she needed care to help her do everything from
<v Speaker 12>day to day.
<v Speaker 4>The woman who had survived the brutal attack was Erica's mom,
<v Speaker 4>sixty eight year old Denise Johnson. She had been beaten
<v Speaker 4>nearly to death before the fire broke out.
<v Speaker 12>Denise Johnson was Erica Huff's mother. She was retired, I
<v Speaker 12>believe at the time, but she had taken on a lot.
<v Speaker 12>So when Erica went to a wheelchair and had to
<v Speaker 12>sort of give up custody of her child to her parents,
<v Speaker 12>Denise had retired and she was with Erica's stepfather at
<v Speaker 12>the time, Lonnie Johnson, and they lived in Youngstown and
<v Speaker 12>took care of Denise's daughter.
<v Speaker 4>Erica's five year old daughter depended on her grandmother Denise
<v Speaker 4>and her stepgrandfather, Lonnie Johnson for care Erica's illness made
<v Speaker 4>it impossible to raise the little girl alone, and her
<v Speaker 4>parents took on the role of primary caregivers while also
<v Speaker 4>assisting Erica with her daily needs. They were devoted, loving people,
<v Speaker 4>but on that horrific morning, tragedy struck. Erica was found
<v Speaker 4>dead in her bedroom, beaten so severely that she never
<v Speaker 4>stood a chance, and as if that wasn't enough, the
<v Speaker 4>killer had set the house on fire to cover up
<v Speaker 4>the crime. With Denise barely alive and rushed to the hospital,
<v Speaker 4>police turned to the only person left the question, Erica's stepfather,
<v Speaker 4>Lonnie Johnson, at seventy six years old. He was brought
<v Speaker 4>to the station for an interview with the homicide detective
<v Speaker 4>Ron Roadway.
<v Speaker 19>From what we understand, your wife's daughter, your stepdaughter. Her
<v Speaker 19>name is Erica huff Aza Gras and she lives at
<v Speaker 19>forty four Cleveland Street.
<v Speaker 20>She suffered from MS Is that correct? Yeah, she has okay,
<v Speaker 20>pretty bad. Advanced her some wheelchair to the bulls to
<v Speaker 20>the wheelchair okay, and she can't walk. She had people
<v Speaker 20>coming even clean her up, and she can't even walk. No,
<v Speaker 20>she can't take a step.
<v Speaker 19>And I believe comfort Keepers is one of the companies
<v Speaker 19>that comes in and takes.
<v Speaker 14>Care of her.
<v Speaker 4>Detectives started with routine background questions before shifting to what
<v Speaker 4>really mattered. The morning of the attack. Annie explained that
<v Speaker 4>he'd been asleep at home when it all began.
<v Speaker 19>And it's my understanding somewhere shortly around two o'clock this morning,
<v Speaker 19>your stepdaughter wears a medical alert, and that medical alert
<v Speaker 19>went off. Rural Metro Ambulance Company was notified, and your
<v Speaker 19>wife was notified.
<v Speaker 14>Is that correct. I'm assuming you folks were sleeping when
<v Speaker 14>you got the call. Oh yeah, okay. And then your
<v Speaker 14>wife gathered herself together and went over to the house.
<v Speaker 9>Yes, she said, on the wool and turned that alarm off.
<v Speaker 15>Now doesn't go awful lot?
<v Speaker 14>Is that something what happened every now and then?
<v Speaker 9>But she went over the forty and pushed a button,
<v Speaker 9>you know, took care of it, right.
<v Speaker 21>But she said that you stay home with the granddaughter,
<v Speaker 21>Erica's daughter and stays with us ninety five percent of
<v Speaker 21>the time, right, And she said, you stay with her
<v Speaker 21>because I don't want to wake up and we're both gone, right,
<v Speaker 21>And I said okay.
<v Speaker 4>When Erica's life alert necklace was triggered, the healthcare company
<v Speaker 4>Guardian Medical was notified, as was Erica's mom. Without hesitation,
<v Speaker 4>Denise got out of bed, got dressed, and rushed out
<v Speaker 4>to check on her daughter. Before she left, she told
<v Speaker 4>Lonnie to stay behind so that Erica's daughter wouldn't be
<v Speaker 4>left home alone. He agreed, but as time passed and
<v Speaker 4>Denise didn't return, Lonnie grew uneasy. Something felt wrong. He
<v Speaker 4>decided to go to Erica's house himself.
<v Speaker 11>About fifteen to twenty minutes so, I said, you know,
<v Speaker 11>let me get in the truck in gold and see
<v Speaker 11>what's going on.
<v Speaker 14>When you first got there, he walked up to the
<v Speaker 14>front door. That's right, okay. Did you go in the house.
<v Speaker 14>Did you knock on the door?
<v Speaker 9>No?
<v Speaker 11>I went to reach for the door to open it
<v Speaker 11>and thought it was over right, and she said no, run.
<v Speaker 14>Did you see your wife?
<v Speaker 12>Just hear her?
<v Speaker 11>I just heard her, okay, So you never actually made
<v Speaker 11>it through the threshold, and made it through the threshold.
<v Speaker 14>Was the door completely closed the entire time you were there.
<v Speaker 14>I didn't get a chance to touch it. I went
<v Speaker 14>to reach for it was closed.
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it was closed, Yes, sir, it was closed.
<v Speaker 14>And basically what you heard was run, Lonnie, Run run.
<v Speaker 14>I told you to run.
<v Speaker 19>And so now when you when you heard her say that,
<v Speaker 19>I mean, you automatically assumed there was something something wrong.
<v Speaker 11>So I turn around and I parked the car and
<v Speaker 11>I called nine one one.
<v Speaker 4>As Lonnie approached Erica's front door, he heard Denise's voice,
<v Speaker 4>but her words were garbled and frantic. He thought she
<v Speaker 4>was telling him to run. Later he would be told
<v Speaker 4>that she was actually screaming for help, but in that moment,
<v Speaker 4>all he heard was the urgency panic. Turned and ran
<v Speaker 4>and called nine one one. By the time police arrived,
<v Speaker 4>the house was in flames.
<v Speaker 12>They respond to the house, they go around the back.
<v Speaker 12>They see some smoke coming out of the window. They're
<v Speaker 12>able to tell that an air conditioner unit was partially
<v Speaker 12>pushed out the window. They then removed that air conditioning
<v Speaker 12>unit and pull Erica's mom from the window.
<v Speaker 4>Officers pulled the Nise from the burning home. She was
<v Speaker 4>barely alive, her body battered and soaked in blood. Then
<v Speaker 4>they found Erica.
<v Speaker 12>They were able to go back in that room or
<v Speaker 12>see in that room that there's another body laying on
<v Speaker 12>the floor. They put that fire out and or partially
<v Speaker 12>put that fire out, and they're able to tell that
<v Speaker 12>Erica is now deceased.
<v Speaker 8>When she was found, a fire hadn't been set in
<v Speaker 8>the bedroom where she was at. She was burned. She
<v Speaker 8>did have some severe blunt force trauma. We later found
<v Speaker 8>out that she had been stomped on severely on her stomach.
<v Speaker 8>There was a lot of internal bleeding, which is one
<v Speaker 8>of the causes of death, and she had also been strangled.
<v Speaker 12>The corner testifies that she had elacerated liver, broken ribs,
<v Speaker 12>and evidence that she had been kicked in her stomach
<v Speaker 12>or stomped on, and then she had blunt force to
<v Speaker 12>her head. And then she had the ligature marks and
<v Speaker 12>the ligature was still around her neck when she was
<v Speaker 12>laying on the floor in her room.
<v Speaker 4>As police moved towards the backyard, something strange caught their attention.
<v Speaker 4>They caught a glimpse of a man who had closed
<v Speaker 4>the back door When.
<v Speaker 12>They come around the back door to see if there's
<v Speaker 12>anyone else in the house, they're met by a male
<v Speaker 12>trying to come out the door. He then pulls the
<v Speaker 12>door shut on them, and then they have to break
<v Speaker 12>in the door, and they find that mail hiding under
<v Speaker 12>the dining room table with a like a duffel bag
<v Speaker 12>next to him.
<v Speaker 4>It didn't take long for police to realize what was happening.
<v Speaker 4>The man had been trying to escape, but the police
<v Speaker 4>had arrived too quickly, trapping him inside.
<v Speaker 1>Well, next guy, I was laying near the boro.
<v Speaker 8>We got here.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think we got here.
<v Speaker 21>Too quick because when they got here, they said, look
<v Speaker 21>there's somewhere at dinner you shut the back door.
<v Speaker 4>Officers forced the door open and entered the smoke filled room.
<v Speaker 4>Lying under the dining room table was a man in
<v Speaker 4>his forties. His name was Lance Hunley.
<v Speaker 12>Forty six year old Lance Hunley was from Washington, d c.
<v Speaker 12>He was coming and staying in Youngstown. He was brother
<v Speaker 12>to Erica Huff's child's father. So Erica Huff had a
<v Speaker 12>child with Greg Hunley.
<v Speaker 19>This gentleman Lance, whose name is Lance Hunley. But according
<v Speaker 19>to what you folks and Johnathan we're telling us his
<v Speaker 19>brother is the father of your little grandchild. That's true, Okay,
<v Speaker 19>So there is some connection with this guy. And apparently
<v Speaker 19>from what we're getting, he had nowhere to live, and
<v Speaker 19>your daughter has allowed him to come and live with
<v Speaker 19>her for the last three to four weeks that graduating.
<v Speaker 14>I noticed on his idea that he had an address
<v Speaker 14>in Warren, Ohio.
<v Speaker 9>Well, that was where he was staying with his brother.
<v Speaker 19>Is that where the grandchild's father stays.
<v Speaker 14>He was staying with him.
<v Speaker 11>He was staying with him, and he said it was
<v Speaker 11>too many people over there, so he couldn't sleep because
<v Speaker 11>he was working at night, right, And so that's when
<v Speaker 11>he asked, Erica, can I come and stay with you.
<v Speaker 4>As investigators dug into Hundley's past, they uncovered his connection
<v Speaker 4>to Erica. He was the brother of Erica's daughter's father.
<v Speaker 4>When Hunley first moved to Youngstown, he stayed with his brother,
<v Speaker 4>but that arrangement fell apart. Needing a place to live,
<v Speaker 4>he turned to Erica. She agreed to take him in.
<v Speaker 4>That was a decision that would later cost her everything.
<v Speaker 9>Now, over the.
<v Speaker 19>Last three or four weeks, I mean, has there been
<v Speaker 19>anything that Eric has said I mean, was she concerned
<v Speaker 19>about this.
<v Speaker 9>Guy at all?
<v Speaker 14>Did she say anything about erratic behavior?
<v Speaker 11>Said to Denise and I that he was complaining about
<v Speaker 11>the girls that come to clean her up. He said
<v Speaker 11>they're not your friends. He said they got to do their.
<v Speaker 9>Job, and he complained about that a couple of times.
<v Speaker 14>But Erica, I mean, in the last three or four weeks,
<v Speaker 14>has not complained about it.
<v Speaker 11>Almost things she complained about him trying to tell.
<v Speaker 14>Her what the comfort keepers.
<v Speaker 9>What the comfort peoples, and that's her job to take
<v Speaker 9>care of them.
<v Speaker 19>But she never like said anything like I'm afraid of
<v Speaker 19>this guy. He's not hating me, nothing like that. Has
<v Speaker 19>he ever had words with your wife before?
<v Speaker 14>No, No, not that I know of.
<v Speaker 12>No.
<v Speaker 4>Right at first, Hunley wasn't the worst housemate, but he
<v Speaker 4>did have a troubling personality. Erica's in home healthcare workers
<v Speaker 4>later revealed that he was controlling and bossy. They claimed
<v Speaker 4>that when they rejected his unwanted advances, his behavior turned hostile,
<v Speaker 4>and one of them eventually refused to go to Erica's
<v Speaker 4>house if Hunley was there. Erica eventually realized she couldn't
<v Speaker 4>keep him around and planned on asking Lance to leave.
<v Speaker 8>Hey, listen, we're going to be getting warrants on this
<v Speaker 8>guy at the hospital this morning.
<v Speaker 7>Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 1>If he's get being treated or relief, it would be do.
<v Speaker 8>You know, I don't know he's being there, he's under observation.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that personally.
<v Speaker 15>I don't think there's anything wrong with him.
<v Speaker 1>Gammon, Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 4>After being pulled from the burning home, Hunley was taken
<v Speaker 4>to the hospital for smoking elation, but as soon as
<v Speaker 4>doctors cleared him, he was escorted straight to the Youngstown
<v Speaker 4>police station for questioning.
<v Speaker 22>Okay, I am detective stars at wrong roadway and your name,
<v Speaker 22>sir is Lance l A n Cezar. Yes, Lance, could
<v Speaker 22>get take a few minutes and leave that alone and
<v Speaker 22>talk with her.
<v Speaker 14>Sure, multi tell well or we don't want you to multitask,
<v Speaker 14>We don't want to talk to you and pay attention.
<v Speaker 14>Then you can look at that all you want. Sir.
<v Speaker 4>Funny knew he was in trouble when detectives began the interview.
<v Speaker 4>He feigned distraction, pretending to be preoccupied with his hospital paperwork.
<v Speaker 4>There was an obvious attempt to downplay the gravity of
<v Speaker 4>a situation. Perhaps he thought acting indifferent would convince them
<v Speaker 4>he wasn't capable of brutally murdering a disabled woman. It
<v Speaker 4>didn't work.
<v Speaker 14>Would you like to speak with us or about this incident? Yeah?
<v Speaker 14>Why am I here? Okay? Well, we're going to explain
<v Speaker 14>that to you. Okay, We're gonna explain everything to you. Lance.
<v Speaker 13>Where do you live, sir? Well, right now, I was
<v Speaker 13>staying at urga house house huff.
<v Speaker 14>You were staying there? Yes? And how long are you
<v Speaker 14>staying this? Sir? Beautiful? Buttom off, how do you know Erica?
<v Speaker 14>How did you come to live there?
<v Speaker 13>Her daughter is my niece. My brother and her head
<v Speaker 13>a relationship.
<v Speaker 14>I know you've been living there around a month. But
<v Speaker 14>how long have you known Erica? Have you known it
<v Speaker 14>for years? My niece would be six. I've been knowing
<v Speaker 14>her about eight eight o. My brother, I don't know,
<v Speaker 14>maybe eight years.
<v Speaker 18>Eight years?
<v Speaker 14>Your Mary, do you have a pretty good relationship with her?
<v Speaker 15>Of course?
<v Speaker 14>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>Detectives started gathering background details, then they cut to the
<v Speaker 4>chase the events leading up to Erica's death.
<v Speaker 14>Were you at home at forty four Cleveland last evening?
<v Speaker 14>Excuse me? Were you home at forty four Cleveland last evening?
<v Speaker 14>At Thursday evening Thursday evening, I was in and out.
<v Speaker 19>Okay, but at some time did you come home for
<v Speaker 19>the night, like to go to bed and that kind
<v Speaker 19>of stuff.
<v Speaker 14>Oh yeah, let's let's just speed it up.
<v Speaker 13>Man.
<v Speaker 14>When I got home? What time did you get home
<v Speaker 14>last night?
<v Speaker 13>What happened?
<v Speaker 9>Yes?
<v Speaker 14>I got home.
<v Speaker 23>I don't know.
<v Speaker 14>I left the bar? What bar?
<v Speaker 15>So seven time?
<v Speaker 14>So you went from the seven tavern to home? That's
<v Speaker 14>right right up the street. Okay? Do you remember about
<v Speaker 14>what time that might have been closing time? Or didn't
<v Speaker 14>look at my why he's doing the slightest idea.
<v Speaker 4>Fuddally claimed that he'd spent the night drinking at a
<v Speaker 4>bar before coming home. Beyond that, he refused to say
<v Speaker 4>much of anything else.
<v Speaker 14>When you got home, you have your own bedroom, there
<v Speaker 14>is that?
<v Speaker 9>Correct?
<v Speaker 14>That's correct? Okay, Erica has her own bedroom. That's correct.
<v Speaker 9>When you got home?
<v Speaker 14>Was Erica awake asleep?
<v Speaker 13>Do you never comes here? It gives triggy. Okay, now
<v Speaker 13>my question to you, and I'm gonna arrest at this time? Yes, okay, okay,
<v Speaker 13>I think this and I'm I kind of figured out
<v Speaker 13>something from the police office.
<v Speaker 14>Eric had died. Yes, I think I need to get
<v Speaker 14>a lawyer. I think I need to stop question.
<v Speaker 4>Realizing he was cornered, Humley shut down the interview. He
<v Speaker 4>asked for a lawyer, but before the interview ended, he
<v Speaker 4>made one bold, desperate claim.
<v Speaker 13>But I will tell you this, I wasn't the only
<v Speaker 13>one in that house. Else was in the house. I
<v Speaker 13>don't know the person who choked me out. You just
<v Speaker 13>told us you didn't want to talk to us.
<v Speaker 14>It that's it.
<v Speaker 24>And he talked to us, y'all do y'all job. I
<v Speaker 24>just but you understand you either talk to us or don't.
<v Speaker 24>You don't want to speak right, I'm I'm arrested for murder. Apparently,
<v Speaker 24>yes you are, so I need yeah.
<v Speaker 14>Okay, well let's see Saul communications this point though. Okay,
<v Speaker 14>I just wanted this. You know there was another person
<v Speaker 14>in the house.
<v Speaker 4>This claim would become the foundation of Hunley's defense. He
<v Speaker 4>insisted he wasn't the killer. Someone else, he said, had
<v Speaker 4>murdered Erica and nearly beaten Denise to death, but the
<v Speaker 4>detectives weren't buying it, and thanks to Denise's survival, they
<v Speaker 4>didn't have to lance.
<v Speaker 8>Hunley had been at a south Side bar. According to him,
<v Speaker 8>we did go and interview people at the bar. But
<v Speaker 8>Lance Hunley had returned to the residence on Cleveland Street,
<v Speaker 8>and it appears that Lance Hunley had strangled Erica, had
<v Speaker 8>taken her, had thrown her out of bed, beat her
<v Speaker 8>and stomped her with his feet, I mean kicked her
<v Speaker 8>so badly she had internal bleeding inside her stomach. Lynn
<v Speaker 8>had gone to the garage and got a gas can
<v Speaker 8>spread gasoline around the bedroom. During this time, Bennise Johnston
<v Speaker 8>had got the report of the life alert had come
<v Speaker 8>to the house. When she entered the house, she observed
<v Speaker 8>Lance Hunley standing there with a gas can. Asked him
<v Speaker 8>what he was doing with the gas can. She took
<v Speaker 8>the gas can from Hunley took it out to the garage.
<v Speaker 8>When she entered back into the kitchen area from the garage,
<v Speaker 8>Hunley attacked her with a claw hammer and hit her
<v Speaker 8>numerous times in the head. Told Denise he had killed
<v Speaker 8>he had killed her daughter, and was going to kill her.
<v Speaker 8>Actually produced a knife at this time and put it
<v Speaker 8>to her throat. Drug Denise into the bedroom and threw
<v Speaker 8>her down on top of her daughter, who was smoldering
<v Speaker 8>from the from the fire.
<v Speaker 4>Lance Hunley had savagely beaten Eric a Huff, murdering her
<v Speaker 4>in cold blood. When Denise arrived to check on her daughter,
<v Speaker 4>he turned on her as well, intending to finish her off,
<v Speaker 4>but before he could, Lonnie showed up, forcing Hunley to scramble.
<v Speaker 4>Then came the police. Lance's attempt to set the house
<v Speaker 4>on fire and erase the evidence had failed, so the
<v Speaker 4>police arrived.
<v Speaker 8>Before Henley could make it out of the house. So
<v Speaker 8>Hunley determined he cleaned up, put some clothing in a
<v Speaker 8>bay of the clothing with blood on it, and he
<v Speaker 8>laid down in the dining room, and when officers arrive,
<v Speaker 8>he acted like he was a victim of his crime.
<v Speaker 4>Detective Ron Roadway didn't have to speculate because Denise Johnson survived.
<v Speaker 4>Though she was critically injured, she lived to tell him
<v Speaker 4>exactly what happened that morning.
<v Speaker 8>Denise Johnson did survive the attack. She had been hit
<v Speaker 8>numerous times in the head with a hammer. Believe her
<v Speaker 8>injuries included a fracture's skull severe lacerations. I mean, when I.
<v Speaker 25>Saw her at the hospital, she looked horrific, but by
<v Speaker 25>the next day, I mean she was quite a strong woman,
<v Speaker 25>and I mean was able to come back putty quickly
<v Speaker 25>from the injuries and was very very helpful in the
<v Speaker 25>outcome of this case.
<v Speaker 4>Later, Denise would give an official recorded statement, and nearly
<v Speaker 4>three years after the attack, she would stand in front
<v Speaker 4>of a jury base her daughter's killer and tell them
<v Speaker 4>the truth. In the end, the jury had to make
<v Speaker 4>a decision not about guilt, but about whether or not
<v Speaker 4>Lance Hunley deserve to die. In twenty eighteen, prosecutors in Youngstown, Ohio,
<v Speaker 4>were preparing for a murder trial a lot of that
<v Speaker 4>going around in Ohio. Their target was forty eight year
<v Speaker 4>old Lance Hunley. He was accused of savagely beating forty
<v Speaker 4>one year old Erica Huff to death and nearly doing
<v Speaker 4>the same to her mother, sixty eight year old Denise Johnson.
<v Speaker 4>Given the brutality and the heinous nature of the crimes,
<v Speaker 4>prosecutors had made their decision. This wasn't just a murder case.
<v Speaker 4>This was a death penalty case.
<v Speaker 12>When you have the defendant or the suspect at the
<v Speaker 12>scene with a double bag full of his bloody clothes
<v Speaker 12>and he killed and attempted to kill two or more persons,
<v Speaker 12>this is one of those cases where we knew the
<v Speaker 12>death penalty specification might be on the table.
<v Speaker 4>Of course, before the trial could begin, Hunley needed a
<v Speaker 4>lawyer and he needed a defense. Neither would come easily.
<v Speaker 26>Hunley initially claimed he was insane at the time, only
<v Speaker 26>to later change his mind. He fired his first set
<v Speaker 26>of lawyers after they pressed to have his competency evaluated.
<v Speaker 26>In July of last year, after his new attorneys asked
<v Speaker 26>that he be tested again.
<v Speaker 15>The issue has to be resolved, cannot be abandoned.
<v Speaker 26>I think we all know that I am having some
<v Speaker 26>trouble convincing mister Hunley. If such, Hunley became so angry
<v Speaker 26>in court he had to be restrained.
<v Speaker 4>As the trial approached, Hunley made things as difficult as possible.
<v Speaker 4>He was combative, disruptive, and openly hostile towards the court.
<v Speaker 4>He had no interest in working with the public defenders
<v Speaker 4>assigned to his case.
<v Speaker 27>Until you can submit to a competency examine, evenish, until
<v Speaker 27>you submit to a competency examination, that that right didn't.
<v Speaker 28>And you're the extra set of company of that which
<v Speaker 28>I don't.
<v Speaker 14>I never wanted to fush.
<v Speaker 1>I understand that, and trying to me.
<v Speaker 14>You are trying to make new things that I don't
<v Speaker 14>want it. If you want to do it or not,
<v Speaker 14>you're order.
<v Speaker 28>I do now still in you.
<v Speaker 4>After a second competency hearing, the court granted Hunley permission
<v Speaker 4>to change his insanity defense. Why do they always think
<v Speaker 4>you're crazy when you're actually stupid?
<v Speaker 14>Beats me?
<v Speaker 4>But there was still the issue of him refusing to
<v Speaker 4>accept any of the attorneys provided.
<v Speaker 26>To him this morning. After firing his second set of lawyers.
<v Speaker 26>Hunley insisted he could not work with anyone who was local.
<v Speaker 13>But I simply asked you put out an exsurnance from
<v Speaker 13>Auti town, and you told me not.
<v Speaker 26>But the judge said she'd changed her mind and would
<v Speaker 26>find Hunley a public defender from out of the area.
<v Speaker 26>That seemed to satisfy him. However, less than five minutes later,
<v Speaker 26>they were all back again, with the defendant asking how
<v Speaker 26>long it would take to find new lawyers. The judge
<v Speaker 26>couldn't give him an answer.
<v Speaker 14>I'll show you.
<v Speaker 26>And even when the judge asked him a series of
<v Speaker 26>questions to see if Hundley knew what he was doing,
<v Speaker 26>he was insistent, figure.
<v Speaker 14>That I'll figure that. I am absolutely positive.
<v Speaker 4>In the end, Hunley made a drastic decision to represent himself.
<v Speaker 4>The court begrudgingly allowed it, appointing stand by counsel to
<v Speaker 4>assist if needed. With that settled, jury selection began and
<v Speaker 4>soon the trial was under way. Prosecutors went to work
<v Speaker 4>laying out their case.
<v Speaker 12>We used the ambulance drivers to talk about who waved
<v Speaker 12>them off when they came to the door, and it
<v Speaker 12>was him, obviously who waved them off. We used the
<v Speaker 12>coroner's testimony about what Erica's causes a manner of death was.
<v Speaker 12>We used the police to talk about their investigation and
<v Speaker 12>all the different evidence that they collected. We had DNA
<v Speaker 12>experts to talk about not only where Erica's DNA would
<v Speaker 12>have been, but also where Denise's blood was and where
<v Speaker 12>Lance Hunley's DNA was left. And we have the detective
<v Speaker 12>kind of round up all the testimony at the end
<v Speaker 12>to kind of clean up and make all those connections
<v Speaker 12>as to why we think.
<v Speaker 28>Humley did this in the first place.
<v Speaker 4>The forensic and physical evidence against Hunley was overwhelming, but
<v Speaker 4>the prosecution had something even more powerful. And I witnessed
<v Speaker 4>one of Hunley's victims had survived. Erica's mom was alive
<v Speaker 4>to tell the story.
<v Speaker 22>And Denise I was actually here Friday morning when you
<v Speaker 22>were in the emergency room, and.
<v Speaker 29>I think you remember talking to me a little bit.
<v Speaker 29>You were actually in very bad shape when I talked
<v Speaker 29>to you. The doctors were just finishing stitching up at
<v Speaker 29>least six lacerations in your head and your forehead, but
<v Speaker 29>you were still conscious and you were able to talk
<v Speaker 29>to me, and you basically told me what had happened
<v Speaker 29>that day.
<v Speaker 15>And the reason we're here now is we want to
<v Speaker 15>memorialize everything. We put everything, especially in a homicide case.
<v Speaker 15>We do it on GVD TAP.
<v Speaker 4>Three years before Lance Hunley's trial began, Denise Johnson sat
<v Speaker 4>in a hospital bed, battered but alive. It was twenty fifteen,
<v Speaker 4>just a few days after the nightmare that had unfolded
<v Speaker 4>in Erica's home. Denise was recovering from the brutal attack
<v Speaker 4>that had left her daughter dead. Despite the trauma, she
<v Speaker 4>spoke to Detective Ron Roadway in a recorded interview.
<v Speaker 15>So I'm going to take you back to early Friday morning.
<v Speaker 19>Now, I know the medical alert went off sometime a
<v Speaker 19>few minutes after two o'clock in the morning on Friday.
<v Speaker 15>The sixth Rural Metro Ambulance was dispatched there. They were
<v Speaker 15>called and you also recalled it.
<v Speaker 19>You were a contacts and when you arrived, correct me
<v Speaker 19>if I'm wrong.
<v Speaker 15>You told me you actually have a key to the
<v Speaker 15>house and you went in.
<v Speaker 30>Yes, when I opened the door, he was in the
<v Speaker 30>living room, and you say he, and I said, the
<v Speaker 30>life Alert people with the lifeline people called me, and
<v Speaker 30>I said, where's Eric.
<v Speaker 28>He said, she's sleeping, but the room smelled full of gas.
<v Speaker 28>I said, why is this gasolene? Can even know the
<v Speaker 28>red container here in the living room. I don't know
<v Speaker 28>what his.
<v Speaker 2>Answer was that because I feistily said, gasoline belongs in
<v Speaker 2>the garage with the lawnmower. So I walked the gasolene
<v Speaker 2>camp out to the garage, put it next to the lawnmower,
<v Speaker 2>and come back in to go to get ready to
<v Speaker 2>check on Erica.
<v Speaker 4>Deni's had no idea what she was walking into that morning.
<v Speaker 4>Erica was already dead, her life stolen in a horrific
<v Speaker 4>act of violence, and within moments of stepping into the house,
<v Speaker 4>and He's found herself face to face with her daughter's killer.
<v Speaker 2>He came over in the corner with the hammer and
<v Speaker 2>just started beating me unmercifully, just beating me and beating me.
<v Speaker 28>And he said, why did you come? I said, first.
<v Speaker 2>Alert told me to come, and I you know, and
<v Speaker 2>the blood was gushing so and he said, you need
<v Speaker 2>to make peace with the Lord. You need to make peace.
<v Speaker 2>I said, I have he and the blood was just gushing,
<v Speaker 2>and I said, Lance, why are you doing this? He said,
<v Speaker 2>all of you have just ditched me and I've got
<v Speaker 2>to kill you. And then he's beating and beating. But
<v Speaker 2>I heard Lonnie's truck come. I heard Lonie's truck come,
<v Speaker 2>but he was so busy crashing the hammer I did
<v Speaker 2>he didn't.
<v Speaker 28>He didn't hear the truck.
<v Speaker 4>At sixty eight years old, Denise fought back with everything
<v Speaker 4>she had, but she was up against a man consumed
<v Speaker 4>by rage. Then through the chaos, she heard something, a
<v Speaker 4>familiar sound. It was her husband's truck pulling up outside.
<v Speaker 14>Your truck?
<v Speaker 11>Is it gonna allowed Exhaustris, Yes, she's got phlegmatics on it.
<v Speaker 9>It makes a little noise, so.
<v Speaker 14>Like rumble rumble.
<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah.
<v Speaker 17>So In other words, okay, if she was inside the house,
<v Speaker 17>it would not be uncommon or and reasonable for her
<v Speaker 17>to hear.
<v Speaker 14>The air truck pull up with the loud motor.
<v Speaker 15>Yes, and that would be distinctive and she would know
<v Speaker 15>that you.
<v Speaker 12>Yeah.
<v Speaker 9>Matter of fact, when I went to the door, she
<v Speaker 9>hollowed Lonnie run and run.
<v Speaker 4>Desperate, Denise screamed for help, but Lonnie misheard her. Instead
<v Speaker 4>of help Lonnie help, he thought she was shouting at
<v Speaker 4>him to run. That misunderstanding may have saved his life.
<v Speaker 4>If Frannie had charged into the house instead of running
<v Speaker 4>for help. There was no telling how much worse this
<v Speaker 4>could have been. Only may have killed them both. Of course,
<v Speaker 4>the terrible downside of that misunderstanding was that Denise was
<v Speaker 4>left alone in the house with Hunley, but.
<v Speaker 28>He continued to beat me and scene forever.
<v Speaker 2>And then he pulled out a switch blade after he
<v Speaker 2>broke the hammer my.
<v Speaker 14>Head when he pulled it.
<v Speaker 15>You saw him pull the switchblade out. I know it
<v Speaker 15>was a very heck. Did you feel him stab you? No,
<v Speaker 15>because you know you have a stab wound under here.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?
<v Speaker 9>Just he did stab you?
<v Speaker 28>I think he did.
<v Speaker 15>Yes, Yeah, we saw an emergency. There was a puncture woe.
<v Speaker 2>That okay, And then he started to joke me and
<v Speaker 2>dragged me into the living woman. I fought and I
<v Speaker 2>fought and not finally coulding fighting, and he took my breath.
<v Speaker 4>Hunley strangled Denise until she lost consciousness. Then, as if
<v Speaker 4>disposing of garbage, he dragged her lifeless body into Erica's
<v Speaker 4>bedroom and tossed her on top of her daughter's corpse.
<v Speaker 4>After dousing the room in gasoline, he struck a match
<v Speaker 4>and watched the fire begin to consume the evidence of
<v Speaker 4>his crimes. But then something unexpected happened. Denise started to
<v Speaker 4>wake up.
<v Speaker 28>I realized I felt flames, so I started patting it out.
<v Speaker 2>Then he came with some alcohol and threw it in
<v Speaker 2>my face, and then he walked away, and I went
<v Speaker 2>to the window and I started pulling the side of
<v Speaker 2>the ark, and I did pat my daughter. Yes, I said,
<v Speaker 2>she's still warm, maybe she's still alive, right, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And I said we've got to get out of here.
<v Speaker 2>And and then I thought my jacket burning, so I
<v Speaker 2>took it.
<v Speaker 28>Off at the wood Dale.
<v Speaker 2>But then I reached for the window with the air
<v Speaker 2>conditioning thing he was and as I'm pulling the sides out,
<v Speaker 2>the police apparently were pulling heard.
<v Speaker 28>Yes, they said, Mayam, he gotta.
<v Speaker 30>I said, I'm ready to come just take me, and
<v Speaker 30>they pulled me through the window.
<v Speaker 4>By the time police pulled Denise from the burning house,
<v Speaker 4>she was barely clinging to life, bloodied and gasping for air.
<v Speaker 4>She used what little strength she had to plead with
<v Speaker 4>them to save Erica. But deep down she already knew
<v Speaker 4>the truth. Her daughter was gone, I said, but my
<v Speaker 4>daughter had said here because I wasn't sure.
<v Speaker 28>I kind of knew that my heart she was.
<v Speaker 4>Despite the trauma, Denise's account of what happened on that
<v Speaker 4>horrible morning never changed. Three years later, in front of
<v Speaker 4>a courtroom packed with jurors, attorneys, and the man who
<v Speaker 4>had nearly killed her, she repeated the same truth she
<v Speaker 4>had given detectives. She told them exactly what Lance Humley
<v Speaker 4>had done.
<v Speaker 26>Today they had the mother of murder victim, Erica, on
<v Speaker 26>the witness stand. When she returned, she says, Hundley began
<v Speaker 26>beating her about the head with a hammer. She asked
<v Speaker 26>him why he was doing that, he said. She claimed
<v Speaker 26>in front of the courtroom that Hunley admitted killing her daughter.
<v Speaker 7>And was going to kill her too.
<v Speaker 4>After laying out the physical evidence and presenting Denise's unshakable testimony,
<v Speaker 4>the prosecution rested their case, the time had come for
<v Speaker 4>Hunley to explain himself and present a defense.
<v Speaker 26>Hunley told the jury he came to the area in
<v Speaker 26>August twenty fifteen and had been staying at Erica Huff's
<v Speaker 26>house on the South Side, paying her two hundred dollars
<v Speaker 26>a month. On the night of November fifth, he'd gone
<v Speaker 26>to a couple bars, came back and smoked some marijuana
<v Speaker 26>with Erica and fell asleep watching TV.
<v Speaker 15>I'm on the couch.
<v Speaker 24>I couldn't see they face, okay, and there was choking
<v Speaker 24>me out from behind.
<v Speaker 26>A Hundley says the attacker used chloroform on him and
<v Speaker 26>he blacked out.
<v Speaker 15>Coming to in the kitchen, I started to war towards
<v Speaker 15>the back. That's when I seen a guy come out
<v Speaker 15>of HER's room.
<v Speaker 14>And if the gas came in.
<v Speaker 26>Now groggy and frightened, Hundley claims he sees the victim
<v Speaker 26>lying on the floor of her bedroom.
<v Speaker 10>And I.
<v Speaker 15>Chucked her an.
<v Speaker 14>I didn't feel the pause.
<v Speaker 4>And they took the witness stand and launched into a
<v Speaker 4>bizarre theatrical performance. According to him, a masked intruder had
<v Speaker 4>attacked him and knocked him unconscious with chloroform. When he
<v Speaker 4>came to, he claimed Erica was already dead.
<v Speaker 14>She told lads, it's not too late.
<v Speaker 15>We can come up with something to tell the police.
<v Speaker 26>Hundley says he then started hitting the elderly woman with
<v Speaker 26>a hammer, telling prosecutors during cross examination he was scared.
<v Speaker 14>I was offended. I was defending myself.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes.
<v Speaker 26>Prosecutors pressed him, asking why, with the house filling with smoke,
<v Speaker 26>he didn't try to escape. Hundley kept saying he didn't.
<v Speaker 10>Know what to do.
<v Speaker 15>I'm hunding the influence of chloroflum.
<v Speaker 26>Although Hunley was rescued from the burning house, he says
<v Speaker 26>he never told anyone but his lawyer's this story for
<v Speaker 26>nearly three years, consisting today. He never killed Erica Huff.
<v Speaker 4>In a move as desperate as it was disgusting, Hunley
<v Speaker 4>pointed the finger at Denise Johnson. He insinuated that she
<v Speaker 4>was somehow involved in her own daughter's murder, and that
<v Speaker 4>in a moment of panic, he had attacked her with
<v Speaker 4>a hammer. The story was ridiculous and coherent. Den it
<v Speaker 4>made no sense whatsoever.
<v Speaker 23>Humbley, claiming this morning he was defending himself that he
<v Speaker 23>saw Denise Johnson carrying a gas can coming into the house,
<v Speaker 23>didn't know what was going on, and he grabbed a
<v Speaker 23>hammer and started hitting her with it, claiming to be
<v Speaker 23>defending himself.
<v Speaker 26>But this morning, during closing arguments, prosecutors told jurors Humbley
<v Speaker 26>concocted the story, hoping to create doubt.
<v Speaker 31>He beat her, He stomped on her, and then he
<v Speaker 31>strangled her. He then had to get rid of the
<v Speaker 31>only witness who came to the house, Denise Johnson.
<v Speaker 4>Hunley's defense was weak and almost laughable, and after closing arguments,
<v Speaker 4>the jury had their say.
<v Speaker 26>After just three and a half hours of deliberation, jurders
<v Speaker 26>returned their verdicts shortly after two this afternoon.
<v Speaker 2>We the jury find the dependent Lands Hunley guilty of
<v Speaker 2>aggravated murder and.
<v Speaker 28>Violation of a hire us.
<v Speaker 26>Humley sat motionless and quiet as the verdicts were read aloud,
<v Speaker 26>guilty in the premeditated death of Erica Huff, the attempted
<v Speaker 26>murderer of the victim's mother, and aggravated arson for setting
<v Speaker 26>fire to the crime scene.
<v Speaker 4>The verdict surprised no one, except maybe for Hunley, guilty
<v Speaker 4>on all counts, but the jury had one more decision
<v Speaker 4>to make. Would Lance get to live in the cozy
<v Speaker 4>little jail cell or would he pay the ultimate price
<v Speaker 4>for his crimes.
<v Speaker 26>Just last week, a Mahoning County jury determined that a
<v Speaker 26>man from Youngstown should die for his crimes. This morning,
<v Speaker 26>Judge Moore and Sweeney determined Lance Hunley offered absolutely nothing
<v Speaker 26>during his trials to offset that. This morning, she upheld
<v Speaker 26>the jury's decision that he should die for the murder
<v Speaker 26>of Erica Huff back in November of twenty fifteen, as
<v Speaker 26>well as the attempted murder of Huff's mother than East Johnson.
<v Speaker 4>Naturally, Hunley appealed the conviction and the death sentence. In
<v Speaker 4>a unanimous decision, the Ohio Supreme Court upheld both. As
<v Speaker 4>of April twenty twenty five, Lance Hunley sits on death
<v Speaker 4>row in Ross County, Ohio. Of course, in today's world
<v Speaker 4>and in the state of Ohio, no execution date has
<v Speaker 4>been set, because haven't you heard suicidal empathies all the
<v Speaker 4>rage these days? Despite the overwhelming evidence against him, only
<v Speaker 4>has never once admitted to what he did. He probably
<v Speaker 4>never will, He's maintained, is in a sense, leaving the
<v Speaker 4>question of why unanswered I.
<v Speaker 12>Think Lance committed this crime because Erica was pressuring him
<v Speaker 12>to leave and wanted him to leave, and he had
<v Speaker 12>nowhere else to go. I don't know what was going
<v Speaker 12>on in his head that he felt he couldn't go
<v Speaker 12>back to Washington, d C. Where he was from. But
<v Speaker 12>apparently in his mind he was backed into a corner
<v Speaker 12>and this is the only way out.
<v Speaker 8>What exactly triggered him, we don't know. You know, he
<v Speaker 8>would not confess to this crime, but you know, we
<v Speaker 8>believe he was upset that she was asking to move
<v Speaker 8>out of the house.
<v Speaker 7>Else.
<v Speaker 8>You know, with my experience and what I felt on
<v Speaker 8>this case, he was the social path that he was.
<v Speaker 8>He just you know, snapped and started, you know, strangling
<v Speaker 8>her and beating her. No reason whatsoever they do what
<v Speaker 8>he did to such a severely handicapped woman.
<v Speaker 4>Prosecutors and detectives have their theories about Hunley's motive. They
<v Speaker 4>believe that Lance had been struggling financially, and when Erica
<v Speaker 4>told him that he had to move out, something inside
<v Speaker 4>of him snapped. Ironically, if anyone had a right to
<v Speaker 4>feel beaten down by life, it was Erica. Multiple sclerosis
<v Speaker 4>had stolen her ability to walk, her independence and even
<v Speaker 4>her ability to care for her own daughter. But she
<v Speaker 4>never once let that turn her into a monster, not
<v Speaker 4>like Hunley, who, on the other hand, let his bitterness
<v Speaker 4>fester into something deadly. That's what entitlement does to people.
<v Speaker 4>They think they're owed by the world, and when they
<v Speaker 4>don't get what they want want, he decided to just
<v Speaker 4>go ahead and take it anyway. After the attack, Erica's
<v Speaker 4>mother shared her own theory when that dug even deeper
<v Speaker 4>into what might have driven Hunley to kill.
<v Speaker 2>Because we were not his friends. We were everything I
<v Speaker 2>think he wanted and didn't have. And then here I
<v Speaker 2>go a week before getting a b of and he says, well,
<v Speaker 2>why didn't you get a Mercedes? I got what I wanted,
<v Speaker 2>you want and what I've worked.
<v Speaker 15>For, And your husband worked all his life exactly.
<v Speaker 8>Both your children are well educated college graduates working in.
<v Speaker 28>Their lives, and we did we wanted.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm getting want in this spring. I said, well,
<v Speaker 2>you do what you want to do, you know, But
<v Speaker 2>he was I could see the resentment.
<v Speaker 7>In his eyes.
<v Speaker 2>He hated us. We were everything in life that he
<v Speaker 2>may have wanted and didn't.
<v Speaker 4>It seems that a toxic mix of jealousy, resentment, alcohol,
<v Speaker 4>and eviction pushed Hunley over the edge. He brutally beat
<v Speaker 4>a disabled woman to death and then turned his fury
<v Speaker 4>on a sixty eight year old mother, nearly killing her
<v Speaker 4>as well. Through it all, Hunley never stopped to consider
<v Speaker 4>one simple fact. Erica was one of the only people
<v Speaker 4>in this world that had ever shown him kindness. She'd
<v Speaker 4>given him a home when he needed one. She didn't
<v Speaker 4>have to, but she did, and that kindness was repaid
<v Speaker 4>with disgusting, brutal violence.
<v Speaker 15>I mean, the goodness of her their daughter allowed him
<v Speaker 15>to come there.
<v Speaker 19>Yes, and he's been living there for about a month, right,
<v Speaker 19>and he even had his own bedroom there.
<v Speaker 8>She was, I'm saying, think he just prayed upon her.
<v Speaker 8>You know, I need somewhere to live. I'm your I'm
<v Speaker 8>your daughter's uncle. You know, just preyed upon her vulnerability.
<v Speaker 8>And you know, probably she was probably a nice, sweet person,
<v Speaker 8>you know, felt felt bad.
<v Speaker 14>For the guy.
<v Speaker 4>But like many of us, Erica Huff believed in kindness.
<v Speaker 4>She thought helping someone in need was the right thing
<v Speaker 4>to do. It's what all those PBS specials tried to
<v Speaker 4>teach us. Remember, But when she opened her door to
<v Speaker 4>a monster named Lance Hundley. She unknowingly let evil inside
<v Speaker 4>her home, inside her life, and then it took her life,
<v Speaker 4>nearly silencing her mother as well in a brutal attempt
<v Speaker 4>to erase the truth. But Denise survived. She fought through
<v Speaker 4>unbearable pain to tell her daughter's story, to ensure that
<v Speaker 4>Hunley would never harm another person again, and perhaps to
<v Speaker 4>teach all of us a very important lesson. In the end,
<v Speaker 4>her voice put him exactly where he belonged on death row.
<v Speaker 4>Erica's murder is a chilling reminder that evil doesn't always
<v Speaker 4>announce itself. Sometimes it wears the face of someone you trust,
<v Speaker 4>and sometimes the kindest hearts pay the highest price. Are
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