394 | CCPT Mythbusters: You Have to "Do Something"... or Therapy Won't Work

Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

In this episode of the CCPT Mythbusters series, I address one of the most persistent and widely accepted myths in the field: that therapists have to do something for therapy to be effective. I unpack how this expectation shows up—from parents, schools, and even our own training—and why it creates pressure to intervene, direct, or "produce" visible results. I explain how this mindset is rooted in an adult framework that assumes we know what the child needs and how to get them there, when in reality, that belief directly conflicts with the core principles of child-centered play therapy.

I then reframe what our role actually is in CCPT. Rather than doing something to the child, we provide the conditions that allow the child to do their own work—through relationship, environment, and full adherence to the model. I emphasize that staying out of the child's way is not passive; it is intentional, structured, and grounded in trust of the process. This episode is a reminder that the pressure to "do" is often where therapeutic drift begins—and that true effectiveness in CCPT comes not from intervention, but from unwavering commitment to the model.

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Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

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You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks,

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your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching.

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Hi,

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I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,

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The Kid Counselor.

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This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get

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a master class in child-centered play therapy

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and practical support and application for your

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work with children and their families.

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In today's episode,

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we are going to bust another myth.

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We're in the MythBusters series.

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And today,

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the myth is

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You have to do something.

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So we will hear that from parents,

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colleagues,

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teachers.

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Guardians,

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all kinds of other industry people.

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And,

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well,

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you have to do something.

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What's your clinical intervention?

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What are you doing?

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And there's all kinds of things that go with that myth.

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In other words,

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you have to have goals,

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you have to have measurable outcomes,

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you have to

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have documentation of

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how you're actually achieving therapeutic gains.

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So we're going to bust that myth.

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Before I dive in though,

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OK,

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so let's talk about myths now.

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You know,

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I was thinking about this earlier because

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things that we hear

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all over the world every day.

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And our brain is constantly trying to evaluate whether

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we think that it's true or whether we don't.

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And that comes from our own experience,

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that comes from our belief and value structure,

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that comes from our worldview,

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that comes from

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what we've been told,

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what we've seen mirrored in other people.

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So there's all kinds of factors that go into whether or not we hear something and we

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believe that it's true or not.

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But there's something unique about a myth,

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because a myth isn't just something that you hear.

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A myth is something that is widely accepted.

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It's widely believed.

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And obviously sometimes you can trace its origins back,

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like how in the world did this myth become a thing?

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Sometimes it's wives' tales.

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storytelling.

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Sometimes it's exaggeration of truth.

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there's all kinds of reasons that a myth can form.

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But I think in child-centered play therapy.

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There are so many myths that people from the outside looking in

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have absolutely

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labeled truth.

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whether we like it or not,

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we are

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the ones bringing forth truth in contrast to the myth.

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And that's what this whole series is about.

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I want us to be able to understand what is a myth and therefore how we're going to

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share truth

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to combat that belief.

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So one of the most common myths

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circulating

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is that therapy is about doing something.

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And I'll be the first to admit,

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I mean,

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I go back to my grad school days.

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I had a lot of grad school.

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Lord help me.

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Totally random aside.

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I,

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I don't know if I said this before,

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but I was asked how many years I'd been in school once.

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And when I said 32 out loud,

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that really hurt my heart.

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So I was like,

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oh my word,

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I've had so much school in my life.

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I digress.

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I think back to my grad school days,

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I vividly remember being taught

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what to quote,

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do.

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Therapy is a doing profession

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when you work with adults.

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you listen and you reflectively respond

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and you give strategies and you point out

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maladaptive coping

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and you

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argue with irrational beliefs and so on and so forth.

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things that we do as therapists.

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the caveat is that that is with adults.

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Once we shifted to working with children.

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Things are different.

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I suppose if you're a directive play therapist,

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you're still doing things.

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the second that you understand

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the power of non-directive

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work.

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Your entire framework has to change,

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and you say,

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this isn't about doing now.

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And so the myth is,

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how many times have we heard.

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what are you actually doing?

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But you're not actually doing anything.

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What therapeutic

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gain

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can you

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present

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as a strategy?

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that flies in the face of the child-centered model.

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The child-centered model

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we trust the child

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to know the work that needs to be done.

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We trust that the child wants to become a better version of themselves.

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We trust the process,

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which is we provide the conditions.

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environment and relationship.

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willing,

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and able

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to sort through their things

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and come out on the other side,

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a happier and healthier version.

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There's no doing.

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That's why I've,

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I've worked so hard

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to coin the phrase I am CCPT.

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this work.

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child-centered.

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It's a way of being.

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you have to do something,

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that's where the drift begins.

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even when you are all in and you've embraced it

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and you are never turning back,

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you're going to feel pressure to do.

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You're going to feel pressure

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because of the timeline.

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we're at 34 sessions,

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I don't think we're anywhere close to being done.

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should I do something?

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Or we get pressure from parents.

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I just really need you to talk to him about whatever.

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I really need you to address this problem because

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understandably so.

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They're putting pressure.

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The schools will put pressure.

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Medical will put pressure,

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legal will put pressure.

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There's all of these outside forces

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where they want something tangible.

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And I said this recently,

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it,

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it makes adults feel really good.

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When they can say,

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I did this.

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We did this worksheet

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We talked about this.

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We did this activity.

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Look,

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we completed this on the list.

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That makes all adults feel really good.

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Parents,

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teachers,

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principals,

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guardian,

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whatever,

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everybody feels good when they can say,

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oh,

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look,

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that was accomplished.

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We did something.

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And what that communicates at its core,

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the,

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the subtle,

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maybe not so subtle,

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the implication is.

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I know what you need.

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And as long as you comply

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with my directives.

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I'm in the driver's seat and I'm gonna get us where we need to go.

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And the reality is that we're adults

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and we have adulthood bias

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and we forget what it's like to be a kid.

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And we certainly cannot put ourselves in that child's shoes

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and know what they need to work on,

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in what order,

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what they can handle,

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what they're ready to face,

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what is the most pressing according to their standards

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they need to address.

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We can't presume to know any of that.

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But when we do something,

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that's exactly what's happening.

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doing,

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if you will,

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I'm air quoting that because

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I don't even like the word,

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our doing.

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staying out of the child's way.

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If we're gonna do anything,

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this is ironic,

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I do realize,

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if we're going to do anything.

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We're going to intentionally stay out of the child's way.

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And we're going to provide unconditional acceptance in the relationship.

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We're going to provide the safety

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and the predictability of the environment of the playroom.

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We're going to convey the bee with attitudes.

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We're going to remain adherent to a proven model.

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Those are the things that we do.

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None of those are related to the child's clinical

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progress.

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So we don't have to do anything

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to get the child where the child needs to go.

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All the things that we do

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are related to adherence

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and belief that the model is enough.

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Remember,

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I've said this before,

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but not in a while,

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it's not CCPT plus or minus anything.

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The second that we start changing things

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in any way,

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adding or taking away.

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We've lost sight of the model,

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we've lost efficacy,

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and we have no idea what's going to come out of that.

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our advocacy for the model is.

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I'm always

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very purposefully and thoughtfully engaged.

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I,

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I think a related myth,

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and I don't know if maybe I'll do a complete

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episode on this,

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but

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I think a related myth is,

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so you just sit there and watch them play.

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that is the furthest thing from what we do.

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That's one of my favorite things about CCPT

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is there's a framework,

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there's structure,

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there's a system.

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You follow the model.

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You're not guessing,

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you're not wondering,

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you're not confused.

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You know exactly how

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you are to respond.

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And that is

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in that,

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in that adherence,

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and in that knowledge of the way that CCPT unfolds,

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that is where healing takes place.

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So I hope that that encourages you.

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I hope that you all feel

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a little more inspired to.

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Be mindful

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that our doing is very different.

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And don't feel the pressure,

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don't concede.

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Don't feel like you have to accommodate

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other

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beliefs and ways of doing and ways of thinking because

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that's no longer CCPT

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and we are CCPT

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through and through.

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I love y'all.

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Have a great week.

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We'll talk again soon.

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Bye.

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Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.

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For more episodes and resources,

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