394 | CCPT Mythbusters: You Have to "Do Something"... or Therapy Won't Work
Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy
In this episode of the CCPT Mythbusters series, I address one of the most persistent and widely accepted myths in the field: that therapists have to do something for therapy to be effective. I unpack how this expectation shows up—from parents, schools, and even our own training—and why it creates pressure to intervene, direct, or "produce" visible results. I explain how this mindset is rooted in an adult framework that assumes we know what the child needs and how to get them there, when in reality, that belief directly conflicts with the core principles of child-centered play therapy.
I then reframe what our role actually is in CCPT. Rather than doing something to the child, we provide the conditions that allow the child to do their own work—through relationship, environment, and full adherence to the model. I emphasize that staying out of the child's way is not passive; it is intentional, structured, and grounded in trust of the process. This episode is a reminder that the pressure to "do" is often where therapeutic drift begins—and that true effectiveness in CCPT comes not from intervention, but from unwavering commitment to the model.
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Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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0 00:00:00,519 --> 00:00:04,300 You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks, 1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,100 your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching. 2 00:00:09,819 --> 00:00:10,060 Hi, 3 00:00:10,100 --> 00:00:11,140 I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks, 4 00:00:11,220 --> 00:00:11,930 The Kid Counselor. 5 00:00:12,109 --> 00:00:14,060 This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get 6 00:00:14,060 --> 00:00:16,340 a master class in child-centered play therapy 7 00:00:16,579 --> 00:00:18,780 and practical support and application for your 8 00:00:18,780 --> 00:00:20,399 work with children and their families. 9 00:00:20,899 --> 00:00:21,930 In today's episode, 10 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:24,399 we are going to bust another myth. 11 00:00:24,540 --> 00:00:26,440 We're in the MythBusters series. 12 00:00:27,139 --> 00:00:28,180 And today, 13 00:00:28,260 --> 00:00:29,799 the myth is 14 00:00:30,790 --> 00:00:32,310 You have to do something. 15 00:00:34,279 --> 00:00:36,459 So we will hear that from parents, 16 00:00:37,150 --> 00:00:37,830 colleagues, 17 00:00:38,049 --> 00:00:38,880 teachers. 18 00:00:39,810 --> 00:00:40,360 Guardians, 19 00:00:40,459 --> 00:00:42,400 all kinds of other industry people. 20 00:00:43,180 --> 00:00:43,819 And, 21 00:00:44,020 --> 00:00:44,139 well, 22 00:00:44,180 --> 00:00:45,580 you have to do something. 23 00:00:45,939 --> 00:00:47,540 What's your clinical intervention? 24 00:00:47,860 --> 00:00:48,869 What are you doing? 25 00:00:49,939 --> 00:00:52,090 And there's all kinds of things that go with that myth. 26 00:00:52,150 --> 00:00:52,669 In other words, 27 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,630 you have to have goals, 28 00:00:53,709 --> 00:00:55,229 you have to have measurable outcomes, 29 00:00:55,310 --> 00:00:56,250 you have to 30 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:58,290 have documentation of 31 00:00:58,509 --> 00:01:01,330 how you're actually achieving therapeutic gains. 32 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:03,860 So we're going to bust that myth. 33 00:01:04,050 --> 00:01:05,290 Before I dive in though, 34 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,569 super exciting announcement. 35 00:01:09,370 --> 00:01:09,900 On Thursday, 36 00:01:09,980 --> 00:01:10,720 May twenty-eighth. 37 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,339 At 12 Eastern. 38 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:14,339 So please, 39 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,319 if you are in a different time zone, 40 00:01:16,639 --> 00:01:17,300 plan accordingly, 41 00:01:17,519 --> 00:01:18,839 adjust 12 Eastern. 42 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,819 We are celebrating the 400th 43 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:23,739 episode 44 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,300 of the podcast 45 00:01:25,919 --> 00:01:26,620 and 46 00:01:26,739 --> 00:01:30,360 www.playtherapypodcast.com/400 47 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,500 is where you will register for that. 48 00:01:33,410 --> 00:01:35,290 So if you will be able to attend, 49 00:01:35,370 --> 00:01:36,550 it will be a live 50 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:37,629 podcast 51 00:01:38,129 --> 00:01:39,510 and it will be a Zoom call. 52 00:01:39,610 --> 00:01:43,949 You'll be able to hang out with me and a whole bunch of other podcast listeners. 53 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,769 And we'll do Q&A and it'll just be a fun time to hang out. 54 00:01:47,889 --> 00:01:48,169 So, 55 00:01:48,330 --> 00:01:49,959 if you can clear your schedule, 56 00:01:50,129 --> 00:01:50,449 Thursday, 57 00:01:50,569 --> 00:01:52,110 May 28th at noon Eastern, 58 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,989 register at www.playtherapypodcast.com/400 59 00:01:56,410 --> 00:01:57,300 Please be mindful, 60 00:01:57,410 --> 00:01:59,150 we have a cap of 100 people 61 00:01:59,330 --> 00:01:59,839 per Zoom, 62 00:01:59,930 --> 00:02:01,330 not because I don't want more than that, 63 00:02:01,489 --> 00:02:03,290 because I can't do more than that with Zoom. 64 00:02:03,930 --> 00:02:04,040 So, 65 00:02:04,050 --> 00:02:06,720 if you are unsure of whether or not you can make it, 66 00:02:07,089 --> 00:02:09,270 please don't register because 67 00:02:09,848 --> 00:02:11,158 If you can't make it, 68 00:02:11,369 --> 00:02:13,548 then that means someone else wasn't able to attend. 69 00:02:14,009 --> 00:02:17,768 So please register if you know for sure that you will be able to attend that live 70 00:02:17,768 --> 00:02:21,248 event and then that will keep spots open for people that would also like to join. 71 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:22,820 OK, 72 00:02:23,179 --> 00:02:24,679 so let's talk about myths now. 73 00:02:24,860 --> 00:02:25,059 You know, 74 00:02:25,139 --> 00:02:27,000 I was thinking about this earlier because 75 00:02:28,259 --> 00:02:29,720 There are all kinds of 76 00:02:29,899 --> 00:02:31,039 things that we hear 77 00:02:31,399 --> 00:02:33,320 all over the world every day. 78 00:02:34,110 --> 00:02:37,750 And our brain is constantly trying to evaluate whether 79 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:39,550 we think that it's true or whether we don't. 80 00:02:40,279 --> 00:02:42,059 And that comes from our own experience, 81 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,860 that comes from our belief and value structure, 82 00:02:45,130 --> 00:02:46,419 that comes from our worldview, 83 00:02:46,479 --> 00:02:47,660 that comes from 84 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,350 what we've been told, 85 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,470 what we've seen mirrored in other people. 86 00:02:51,740 --> 00:02:56,020 So there's all kinds of factors that go into whether or not we hear something and we 87 00:02:56,330 --> 00:02:57,419 believe that it's true or not. 88 00:02:58,649 --> 00:03:00,789 But there's something unique about a myth, 89 00:03:01,529 --> 00:03:03,669 because a myth isn't just something that you hear. 90 00:03:04,419 --> 00:03:07,440 A myth is something that is widely accepted. 91 00:03:07,860 --> 00:03:09,369 It's widely believed. 92 00:03:09,460 --> 00:03:12,259 And obviously sometimes you can trace its origins back, 93 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:14,539 like how in the world did this myth become a thing? 94 00:03:15,250 --> 00:03:16,289 Sometimes it's wives' tales. 95 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:17,360 Sometimes it's 96 00:03:17,740 --> 00:03:18,580 storytelling. 97 00:03:18,820 --> 00:03:20,630 Sometimes it's exaggeration of truth. 98 00:03:20,820 --> 00:03:21,020 I mean, 99 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:23,720 there's all kinds of reasons that a myth can form. 100 00:03:24,850 --> 00:03:27,440 But I think in child-centered play therapy. 101 00:03:28,119 --> 00:03:29,020 And in our field 102 00:03:30,149 --> 00:03:33,949 There are so many myths that people from the outside looking in 103 00:03:34,270 --> 00:03:35,289 have absolutely 104 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:36,750 labeled truth. 105 00:03:38,050 --> 00:03:38,740 And 106 00:03:39,020 --> 00:03:40,500 whether we like it or not, 107 00:03:40,899 --> 00:03:41,759 we are 108 00:03:41,899 --> 00:03:45,240 the ones bringing forth truth in contrast to the myth. 109 00:03:45,699 --> 00:03:47,520 And that's what this whole series is about. 110 00:03:47,779 --> 00:03:53,600 I want us to be able to understand what is a myth and therefore how we're going to 111 00:03:53,940 --> 00:03:55,080 share truth 112 00:03:55,259 --> 00:03:56,679 to combat that belief. 113 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:59,690 So one of the most common myths 114 00:03:59,869 --> 00:04:00,889 circulating 115 00:04:01,350 --> 00:04:03,490 is that therapy is about doing something. 116 00:04:04,750 --> 00:04:06,380 And I'll be the first to admit, 117 00:04:06,539 --> 00:04:06,710 I mean, 118 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:08,389 I go back to my grad school days. 119 00:04:08,690 --> 00:04:09,830 I had a lot of grad school. 120 00:04:10,110 --> 00:04:10,830 Lord help me. 121 00:04:11,860 --> 00:04:13,039 Totally random aside. 122 00:04:13,429 --> 00:04:13,589 I, 123 00:04:13,669 --> 00:04:14,750 I don't know if I said this before, 124 00:04:14,860 --> 00:04:18,010 but I was asked how many years I'd been in school once. 125 00:04:19,339 --> 00:04:21,700 And when I said 32 out loud, 126 00:04:21,820 --> 00:04:23,000 that really hurt my heart. 127 00:04:23,799 --> 00:04:24,809 So I was like, 128 00:04:25,179 --> 00:04:26,160 oh my word, 129 00:04:26,220 --> 00:04:27,660 I've had so much school in my life. 130 00:04:27,779 --> 00:04:28,359 Anyway, 131 00:04:28,660 --> 00:04:29,380 I digress. 132 00:04:29,579 --> 00:04:30,000 So, 133 00:04:30,989 --> 00:04:31,649 When 134 00:04:31,829 --> 00:04:33,769 I think back to my grad school days, 135 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:37,250 I vividly remember being taught 136 00:04:37,709 --> 00:04:38,410 what to quote, 137 00:04:38,510 --> 00:04:38,989 do. 138 00:04:39,910 --> 00:04:41,980 Therapy is a doing profession 139 00:04:42,179 --> 00:04:43,450 when you work with adults. 140 00:04:43,899 --> 00:04:44,320 So 141 00:04:44,500 --> 00:04:47,279 you listen and you reflectively respond 142 00:04:47,459 --> 00:04:50,720 and you give strategies and you point out 143 00:04:51,299 --> 00:04:52,480 maladaptive coping 144 00:04:52,660 --> 00:04:53,799 and you 145 00:04:53,899 --> 00:04:57,179 argue with irrational beliefs and so on and so forth. 146 00:04:57,290 --> 00:04:58,119 Those are 147 00:04:58,420 --> 00:05:00,480 things that we do as therapists. 148 00:05:01,239 --> 00:05:01,769 But 149 00:05:02,010 --> 00:05:04,529 the caveat is that that is with adults. 150 00:05:06,010 --> 00:05:08,489 Once we shifted to working with children. 151 00:05:09,470 --> 00:05:10,850 Things are different. 152 00:05:11,390 --> 00:05:11,540 Now, 153 00:05:11,589 --> 00:05:13,630 I suppose if you're a directive play therapist, 154 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:14,209 then 155 00:05:14,350 --> 00:05:15,609 you're still doing things. 156 00:05:16,109 --> 00:05:19,589 But the second that you embrace child-centered play therapy, 157 00:05:19,950 --> 00:05:22,239 the second that you understand 158 00:05:22,350 --> 00:05:24,529 the power of non-directive 159 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:25,429 work. 160 00:05:27,119 --> 00:05:29,380 Your entire framework has to change, 161 00:05:29,799 --> 00:05:30,980 and you say, 162 00:05:31,359 --> 00:05:33,420 this isn't about doing now. 163 00:05:34,369 --> 00:05:35,910 And so the myth is, 164 00:05:36,329 --> 00:05:37,750 how many times have we heard. 165 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,119 Well, 166 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:41,920 what are you actually doing? 167 00:05:42,119 --> 00:05:43,959 But you're not actually doing anything. 168 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:46,200 What therapeutic 169 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:47,239 gain 170 00:05:47,779 --> 00:05:48,720 can you 171 00:05:49,299 --> 00:05:50,000 present 172 00:05:50,420 --> 00:05:51,290 as a strategy? 173 00:05:52,089 --> 00:05:52,600 Well, 174 00:05:52,970 --> 00:05:55,579 that flies in the face of the child-centered model. 175 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:57,230 The child-centered model 176 00:05:57,609 --> 00:05:58,230 is 177 00:05:58,489 --> 00:05:59,510 we trust the child 178 00:06:00,290 --> 00:06:02,170 to know the work that needs to be done. 179 00:06:03,179 --> 00:06:06,279 We trust that the child wants to become a better version of themselves. 180 00:06:07,059 --> 00:06:08,600 We trust the process, 181 00:06:09,019 --> 00:06:11,000 which is we provide the conditions. 182 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,100 i.e., 183 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,619 environment and relationship. 184 00:06:15,829 --> 00:06:17,230 So that the child is ready, 185 00:06:17,350 --> 00:06:17,619 willing, 186 00:06:17,630 --> 00:06:18,450 and able 187 00:06:18,829 --> 00:06:20,290 to sort through their things 188 00:06:20,670 --> 00:06:21,970 and come out on the other side, 189 00:06:22,109 --> 00:06:23,489 a happier and healthier version. 190 00:06:25,390 --> 00:06:26,630 There's no doing. 191 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:27,630 That's why I've, 192 00:06:27,709 --> 00:06:28,730 I've worked so hard 193 00:06:28,989 --> 00:06:31,790 to coin the phrase I am CCPT. 194 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,079 We don't do 195 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,079 this work. 196 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:35,940 We are 197 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,480 child-centered. 198 00:06:38,329 --> 00:06:39,769 It's a way of being. 199 00:06:40,940 --> 00:06:42,119 So the myth, 200 00:06:42,660 --> 00:06:43,929 you have to do something, 201 00:06:44,059 --> 00:06:45,920 that's where the drift begins. 202 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,029 And even when you are wholly CCPT, 203 00:06:50,769 --> 00:06:53,429 even when you are all in and you've embraced it 204 00:06:53,579 --> 00:06:56,070 and you are never turning back, 205 00:06:56,570 --> 00:06:58,230 you're going to feel pressure to do. 206 00:06:59,049 --> 00:07:00,470 You're going to feel pressure 207 00:07:00,730 --> 00:07:01,890 because of the timeline. 208 00:07:02,679 --> 00:07:03,089 Oh my gosh, 209 00:07:03,170 --> 00:07:04,489 we're at 34 sessions, 210 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:04,970 and 211 00:07:05,130 --> 00:07:06,890 I don't think we're anywhere close to being done. 212 00:07:07,010 --> 00:07:07,160 Like, 213 00:07:07,250 --> 00:07:08,269 should I do something? 214 00:07:10,119 --> 00:07:11,839 Or we get pressure from parents. 215 00:07:13,109 --> 00:07:15,970 I just really need you to talk to him about whatever. 216 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:18,809 I really need you to address this problem because 217 00:07:19,769 --> 00:07:22,609 And they have reasons and they have urgency and they have desperation, 218 00:07:22,970 --> 00:07:23,829 understandably so. 219 00:07:24,850 --> 00:07:25,609 They're putting pressure. 220 00:07:25,690 --> 00:07:27,049 The schools will put pressure. 221 00:07:28,329 --> 00:07:29,429 Medical will put pressure, 222 00:07:29,609 --> 00:07:30,790 legal will put pressure. 223 00:07:31,329 --> 00:07:34,119 There's all of these outside forces 224 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,029 where they want something tangible. 225 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,019 And I said this recently, 226 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:41,019 it, 227 00:07:41,359 --> 00:07:43,399 it makes adults feel really good. 228 00:07:44,450 --> 00:07:45,670 When they can say, 229 00:07:46,170 --> 00:07:47,029 I did this. 230 00:07:48,220 --> 00:07:49,410 We did this worksheet 231 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:51,660 We talked about this. 232 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:53,559 We did this activity. 233 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:54,559 Look, 234 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,579 we completed this on the list. 235 00:07:57,649 --> 00:07:59,690 That makes all adults feel really good. 236 00:08:00,570 --> 00:08:01,089 Parents, 237 00:08:01,209 --> 00:08:01,769 teachers, 238 00:08:01,850 --> 00:08:02,760 principals, 239 00:08:03,170 --> 00:08:03,649 guardian, 240 00:08:03,730 --> 00:08:04,010 whatever, 241 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,209 everybody feels good when they can say, 242 00:08:06,290 --> 00:08:06,440 oh, 243 00:08:06,450 --> 00:08:06,769 look, 244 00:08:07,010 --> 00:08:08,149 that was accomplished. 245 00:08:08,529 --> 00:08:09,450 We did something. 246 00:08:11,470 --> 00:08:14,119 And what that communicates at its core, 247 00:08:14,239 --> 00:08:14,429 the, 248 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:15,130 the subtle, 249 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:16,320 maybe not so subtle, 250 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,200 the implication is. 251 00:08:19,279 --> 00:08:21,029 I know what you need. 252 00:08:21,790 --> 00:08:23,769 And as long as you comply 253 00:08:23,989 --> 00:08:25,410 with my directives. 254 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:29,570 I'm in the driver's seat and I'm gonna get us where we need to go. 255 00:08:30,950 --> 00:08:33,330 And the reality is that we're adults 256 00:08:33,710 --> 00:08:35,130 and we have adulthood bias 257 00:08:35,549 --> 00:08:37,049 and we forget what it's like to be a kid. 258 00:08:38,369 --> 00:08:41,429 And we certainly cannot put ourselves in that child's shoes 259 00:08:41,849 --> 00:08:43,289 and know what they need to work on, 260 00:08:43,330 --> 00:08:44,090 in what order, 261 00:08:44,210 --> 00:08:45,320 what they can handle, 262 00:08:45,729 --> 00:08:47,070 what they're ready to face, 263 00:08:47,570 --> 00:08:50,789 what is the most pressing according to their standards 264 00:08:51,169 --> 00:08:52,169 they need to address. 265 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,309 We can't presume to know any of that. 266 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,840 But when we do something, 267 00:08:57,919 --> 00:08:59,409 that's exactly what's happening. 268 00:09:01,619 --> 00:09:02,640 And so, 269 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:03,640 our 270 00:09:04,260 --> 00:09:04,700 doing, 271 00:09:04,780 --> 00:09:05,419 if you will, 272 00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:07,039 I'm air quoting that because 273 00:09:07,179 --> 00:09:08,099 I don't even like the word, 274 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:08,559 but 275 00:09:09,020 --> 00:09:09,900 our doing. 276 00:09:11,109 --> 00:09:11,849 Is 277 00:09:12,190 --> 00:09:13,750 staying out of the child's way. 278 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:15,809 If we're gonna do anything, 279 00:09:16,109 --> 00:09:16,869 this is ironic, 280 00:09:16,929 --> 00:09:17,690 I do realize, 281 00:09:18,070 --> 00:09:19,830 if we're going to do anything. 282 00:09:21,020 --> 00:09:23,960 We're going to intentionally stay out of the child's way. 283 00:09:25,349 --> 00:09:28,890 And we're going to provide unconditional acceptance in the relationship. 284 00:09:29,429 --> 00:09:31,289 We're going to provide the safety 285 00:09:31,869 --> 00:09:34,369 and the predictability of the environment of the playroom. 286 00:09:35,130 --> 00:09:37,349 We're going to convey the bee with attitudes. 287 00:09:38,109 --> 00:09:41,570 We're going to remain adherent to a proven model. 288 00:09:43,429 --> 00:09:45,309 Those are the things that we do. 289 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:50,260 None of those are related to the child's clinical 290 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,119 progress. 291 00:09:53,359 --> 00:09:56,090 So we don't have to do anything 292 00:09:56,789 --> 00:09:59,150 to get the child where the child needs to go. 293 00:10:00,210 --> 00:10:01,909 All the things that we do 294 00:10:02,289 --> 00:10:03,950 are related to adherence 295 00:10:04,159 --> 00:10:06,429 and belief that the model is enough. 296 00:10:06,890 --> 00:10:07,320 Remember, 297 00:10:07,369 --> 00:10:08,369 I've said this before, 298 00:10:08,429 --> 00:10:09,409 but not in a while, 299 00:10:09,690 --> 00:10:12,890 it's not CCPT plus or minus anything. 300 00:10:14,229 --> 00:10:16,969 The second that we start changing things 301 00:10:17,270 --> 00:10:18,109 in any way, 302 00:10:18,270 --> 00:10:19,570 adding or taking away. 303 00:10:20,979 --> 00:10:22,580 We've lost sight of the model, 304 00:10:22,780 --> 00:10:24,400 we've lost efficacy, 305 00:10:24,900 --> 00:10:27,419 and we have no idea what's going to come out of that. 306 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,320 So, 307 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:33,640 our advocacy for the model is. 308 00:10:34,780 --> 00:10:35,479 That 309 00:10:35,979 --> 00:10:37,280 I'm always 310 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,359 very purposefully and thoughtfully engaged. 311 00:10:41,929 --> 00:10:42,090 I, 312 00:10:42,130 --> 00:10:43,280 I think a related myth, 313 00:10:43,330 --> 00:10:45,309 and I don't know if maybe I'll do a complete 314 00:10:45,659 --> 00:10:46,130 episode on this, 315 00:10:46,210 --> 00:10:46,510 but 316 00:10:46,650 --> 00:10:48,229 I think a related myth is, 317 00:10:48,770 --> 00:10:50,510 so you just sit there and watch them play. 318 00:10:51,729 --> 00:10:52,479 No, 319 00:10:52,890 --> 00:10:55,190 that is the furthest thing from what we do. 320 00:10:55,570 --> 00:10:57,770 That's one of my favorite things about CCPT 321 00:10:58,179 --> 00:10:59,929 is there's a framework, 322 00:11:00,450 --> 00:11:01,169 there's structure, 323 00:11:01,289 --> 00:11:02,390 there's a system. 324 00:11:02,890 --> 00:11:04,919 You follow the model. 325 00:11:05,210 --> 00:11:06,159 You're not guessing, 326 00:11:06,289 --> 00:11:07,190 you're not wondering, 327 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:08,309 you're not confused. 328 00:11:08,530 --> 00:11:10,750 You know exactly how 329 00:11:11,210 --> 00:11:12,729 you are to respond. 330 00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:15,570 And that is 331 00:11:15,830 --> 00:11:16,780 in that, 332 00:11:16,869 --> 00:11:18,169 in that adherence, 333 00:11:18,229 --> 00:11:21,890 and in that knowledge of the way that CCPT unfolds, 334 00:11:22,510 --> 00:11:24,200 that is where healing takes place. 335 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,599 So I hope that that encourages you. 336 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,979 I hope that you all feel 337 00:11:28,090 --> 00:11:29,880 a little more inspired to. 338 00:11:31,090 --> 00:11:32,349 Be mindful 339 00:11:32,969 --> 00:11:35,330 that our doing is very different. 340 00:11:36,359 --> 00:11:37,929 And don't feel the pressure, 341 00:11:38,090 --> 00:11:39,210 don't concede. 342 00:11:39,729 --> 00:11:42,070 Don't feel like you have to accommodate 343 00:11:42,580 --> 00:11:42,989 other 344 00:11:43,340 --> 00:11:46,030 beliefs and ways of doing and ways of thinking because 345 00:11:46,369 --> 00:11:48,210 that's no longer CCPT 346 00:11:48,650 --> 00:11:50,330 and we are CCPT 347 00:11:50,770 --> 00:11:51,549 through and through. 348 00:11:52,090 --> 00:11:52,650 I love y'all. 349 00:11:52,729 --> 00:11:53,190 Have a great week. 350 00:11:53,250 --> 00:11:54,159 We'll talk again soon. 351 00:11:54,340 --> 00:11:54,609 Bye. 352 00:11:55,599 --> 00:11:59,390 Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks. 353 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,559 For more episodes and resources, 354 00:12:01,719 --> 00:12:06,479 please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.