#605 - Heather McMahan on Meeting Joan Rivers, Doing IVF Wrong & Shooting Her Shot with Jeff Foxworthy

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Speaker 1: I had a nurse Dammy. She said that in her clinic they have a problem with older men. They will come in and instead of giving their proper sample in a cup, they will spit in the cup instead.

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Speaker 2: All right, Today's guest is Heather McMahon, comedian actress, the host of the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: She blew up on Instagram after moving back home and Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this in just a second. You're gonna hear the whole story.

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Speaker 2: A very tough time in her life and that turned into a lot of what she is now.

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Speaker 3: And she is massive.

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Speaker 2: When I told my friends she was coming up to do this podcast, all of them wanted to come and sit in. And you know what they all did, turn the camera. Okay, we can't turn the camera, but they're all here. Heather McMahon's here. Go see her tour. It's the Bamboozle Tour right now, and she has a cruise coming which we talk about tickets Heather ontour dot com. She is the reason that everybody's in the studio right now. They're very funny, Heather. Ic man, Heather, They're great to meet you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, lovely to meet you.

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Speaker 2: My wife sent me with information yeah, I've listened to your podcast a lot through my wife.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is probably how a lot of dudes hear you, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, They're laying in bed at night and they're like trying to get some love and attention from their wives, and they just hear my voice.

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Speaker 4: Over and over again.

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Speaker 1: So they you either have like a love hate relationship with me, and then they'll like come to a show and they'll act like they don't want to come, and then they're there and they have a blast, and then they're the ones hanging out afterwards at the meet and greet being like, hey, can I just get some solo photos and you're like, yeah, yeah, Rick, I knew you liked me. Yeah, but I love that. That is the gentle entrance for a lot of men into my comedy is you know, through their spouses, and that's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, my wife says, tell her that my wife and I went to Italy for the first time a few years ago. We've been a couple of times since, and she didn't say it was you at first. She says, Hey, we got a recommendation to go to this restaurant, okay, and I was like great, So it's some place called Paron or.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's what it is, treachery. Perione shout out.

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Speaker 3: We got in there and.

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Speaker 2: I was like, who told you to come to this? And she said, Heather and I said and then she said it was you and I said, oh, you heard it on the podcast. So now we've been twice though, and she said it's so good though, right, yeah, it's great. And I'd never been to Italy except I've gone now twice with her.

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 3: It's a really cool place.

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Speaker 1: It's a great place, and you know it's funny. I am not a creature of habit in any aspect of my life except when I travel. I mean I go to new places all the time. But when I have my little I love, especially with Italy, it feels like my second home. So when I go to Florence there, which I spent a lot of time there, I have my restaurants, I've got my I've got my espresso guy, I've got my cheese guy. And Perione, I am so obsessed with the entire weight staff there. They came to my after party at my wedding because I got married a little outside of Florence and Tuscany, and the guy showed up and we're like, you know, we were just like ripping shots.

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Speaker 4: And having a good time. So they are. They hold a very special place in my heart.

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Speaker 3: How long have you been married.

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Speaker 1: I've been married. We had a COVID court wedding in twenty twenty, but i've you know, we had the big Italy wedding a couple of years ago, so five total.

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Speaker 3: So we got married around the same time.

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Speaker 2: We got married during COVID and we had that brief window where you could not wear masks, so yeah, super mask then because we were massed up, and then it was you could stop wearing masks.

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Speaker 3: We timed it right.

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Speaker 2: We had a wedding on our property and then it was COVID again everybody had to wear masks again. So we've been together about I mean, when did you guys, how long did you have date before you married?

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Speaker 4: I mean we have been together almost fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you've been together a long time, A long time. Yeah. We met in New York in our early twenties and then I moved to LA and we would have gotten married our third date, but he wanted to finish his grad program and I was moving to LA and that's why I know him with the right person, because my husband at no point, even when I was like I'm going to leave New York and go to LA and like follow the dream, he was like, I got to let you do this because I never he said, I know we're in this for the long run, and I don't ever want you to resent me for holding you back. And that's when you know you have a good man. So yeah, we're together a long time.

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Speaker 2: I was asking about your husband because another one of my friends who's on my show, she had said this morning, she said, you were going through your master's outfit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And she didn't know if there was a brand called Dong by God.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, So she literally.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think that's it. I think that was a joke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a joke. So Jeff just has been doing this thing. My husband is secretly one of the funniest people in my life. He is just ridiculous and he's so dry. But yeah, when he does his outfit outfit of the day, he just started saying dong by God. I don't know why, and people run with it. I don't know where it came from, and I'm so mortified. By it, but I say keep it going.

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Speaker 3: You know, does he do anything in entertainment.

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. I think my husband missed his real calling to be like a sports analyst or to be a football coach.

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Speaker 4: And I know that every straight.

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Speaker 1: Male and their like mid thirties thinks that they were at one point could have been a coach. But he really has an analytic brain in a way that's just wild. And I tell him, I'm like, you need to do something. You need to go be the new like offensive lineman coach for ole miss or something. And that's no hate, no shade, whoever's doing the job right now. But you know, I'm just like he is, so that's his He's really really smart at that. But no, I would never date anybody in entertainment.

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Speaker 2: My wife is so funny and she just despises thinking of her doing entertainment. We feel like it's such she has such a skill. She's so funny, so sharp, so dry, so cutting if she wants to be yeah, and has no interest in using it at all.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, you're not using it, she goes, I am with us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and also I get all my best material from my husband because he's just such an idiot in the best way, like, in the most loving way. I just live life. And that's a thing in comedy. You know, you can go and just pound the pavement all the time and work your craft, which we all do, but if you don't actually just go out and live life, like I take the summers off. And that's why I go to Italy. I'm like, I know in two weeks abroad, I will get more material from my husband acting like an absolute insane person while we're abroad.

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Speaker 4: Then I will just you know, hitting clubs every night.

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Speaker 1: Like you got to go and live life to have a shared experience.

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Speaker 3: So then what was you, guys? A story?

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Speaker 2: If you guys, you didn't split, but you split off for a bit, right if?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean we were we were wheeling and dealing, you know, we say together and he was in New York finishing, you know, starting his business, and I was out in LA And then I moved back to Atlanta very abruptly after my dad passed, and he's like, well, at least you're back on the East coast. I mean, we had two pennies to rub together. We would fly back and forth to see each other. I mean it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: We were you know, you stay together the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my boo. Yeah wow, uh huh so. And then I moved back to Atlanta, and right before my dad died very abruptly, but my husband flew down to MD Anderson where my dad was uh getting treatment, and you know, immediately asked for my dad's hand in marriage for me, and uh, of course my dad gave him my blessing.

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Speaker 4: Uh, gave him his blessing, and then the rest is history.

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Speaker 2: How important was that too? Did he get down and do that with your dad before he passed?

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Speaker 1: You know, my my late father and my husband had such a beautiful relationship. I'm sure he had asked him a million times before, but it was I was so touched by it, you know. And then when my dad passed, I'll never forget. We're in Houston and I couldn't find my husband. I like woke up and I was just like, you know, trying to process everything, and I look for my husband and I just see him in a park outside of our hotel and he's smoking a cigar, sitting on a bench and tears are rolling down his face. And I was like I have the best man. Like it was one of those where I knew he needed that moment to grieve my dad. And I feel so blessed that I had two wonderful men in my life. And I don't know, it's just I feel so richly blessed that my dad really loved him.

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Speaker 3: How does he do with your profession?

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Speaker 1: He loves it, I mean, Jeff, that's the bit best thing. Like, yes, I you know, do a lot of jokes at my husband's expense on stage, but we are each other's biggest cheerleaders. My husband loves it, you know, and also, like I make the joke, he gets to play a lot of golf, you know, because there's perks to the job.

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Speaker 4: Everywhere we go.

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Speaker 1: Wherever I'm on tour, there's about sixteen different husbands that will DM me and be like can I take Jeff to play golf today?

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, get him out of my hair please.

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Speaker 1: So he's been traveling the world getting to play every exclusive golf course on the planet, which is very cool.

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Speaker 4: But he loves it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's my bigges cheerleader and he you know, it's funny because my last special breadwinner was all about you know, me stepping into like my power, making more money, like our crazy wedding. And every time I would get asked a question from reporters I was doing press for it, you know, what does your husband think about you making fun of him on stage? And I'm like, no one asked male comedians what their wives think, right, Like, you just know that's a part of the gig. And it was so interesting how all of a sudden it was like we have to feel bad for Jeff because I'm making jokes like fuck that, you know, like I'm sorry. He's doing fine, and he loves it. And I can always see him, like when he's on the side stage and I can see him out of the corner of my eye and he's just like he's loving it. So he's got a great since of humor. You have to have a great sense of humor to be married to a comic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or does he watch every show?

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Speaker 1: Not every show? No, And he doesn't come to all the shows with me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know that was the case. So he doesn't. He doesn't travel with you everywhere.

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Speaker 1: No, he comes to the fun cities. But you know, like, no, ain't no shade to the smaller markets. But there are days where Jeff's like, I'm good, you know, and at the end of thea I'm still married. So I will get off stage and then he's like, so what are we doing for dinner?

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you figured it out. I just worked for ninety minutes.

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Speaker 1: Like you, you make an order, Jeff, Like, there's still the same marital roles even when you walk.

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Speaker 2: Off stage, so you won't make it any money and you started to have success, did you feel like you had become less relatable once you started to make money.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't think I became less relatable because at the end of the day, I have people around me who will not let me get away with shit. Okay, I still live with my mother like my husband, and I, even eight years into my career, just bought like our first home that we're going to live solo in. Like finally, I said, I need to be able to come off the road and not have my mom yell at me about my laundry basket like it's time. But I don't know. I mean maybe some other people will say differently, but I really I keep a tight knit group around me of people that I've known for since I was a child, So I feel blessed that we have a good group around us.

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Speaker 3: I've listened to the episodes with your mom. Yeah, those are so good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's I mean, I I get my late father was so so funny, but my mom is just unreal. She's unhinged, and I feel again the material rights itself, like when you were around Robin McMahon. She's insane. It's just amazing.

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Speaker 2: Does she ever feel the love gratulation towards her? I mean, is she ever out and people come up to her?

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Speaker 1: She is worshiped, She is a goddess. She is an icon. And the best thing is if you run into my mom at our local Trader Joe's, she will give you my personal phone number. And I've had this same phone number since I was like fifteen, and first got a phone, and then I got a burner phone. My manager was like, too many people have your number. You need a different phone. So then I got the new burner phone and then no one calls that number, and it made me so sad. So I just will answer random phone calls and they're like, I met your mom at Trader Joe's.

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Speaker 4: She gave me your number.

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Speaker 1: I'm going through a hard time and I'm like, all right, Carol, tell me what's going on. I just love it.

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Speaker 3: What did they think you wanted to be when you were a kid?

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Speaker 1: I said, I think we have somewhere on home video like what I was four. I'm like, well, I'm going to be a funny girl. It's just what I called it. I either wanted to do that or be a lifeguard because I thought that that was a full time gig. And I just thought, you know, you'd sit in a lifeguard stand in a c bathing suit and he chicken tenders all summer, and I thought that would be awesome. But uh, and then I took my essats and we saw those results, and I was like, I'm gonna have to go into comedy because I'm definitely not going to be a doctor. But no, I always wanted to do comedy. And I was a theater kid growing up, did musical theater, one act plays like competition plays, and then I got a BFA for acting an ole miss. So this was always kind of the trajectory. Now, whether or not it was going to happen was the scary thing. And my dad, who was very successful in his business would always say like, well, what if it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain to people that there was never there was a little voice in the back of my head that said, just keep going. Be fearless about it, because I was like, what do I have to lose.

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Speaker 3: Was there ever a time you did almost quit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like every like yesterday, you know, when I'm exhausted and running around and like what's happening? Uh, for sure, But I just kind of kept going. I always had this feeling, this gut instinct that this is what I wanted to do, and it didn't come from a vain place. It's like I genuinely love to get up every day and giggle, and I knew that other people would relate to that as well, So I mean, yeah, of course, like it's great to see your name in lights and do all this, and there's such a high about getting on stage and having people admire you.

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Speaker 4: For your work.

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Speaker 1: But I truly was like, I just want to get up there and giggle, and the fact that I can make money at this is insanc.

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Speaker 3: Did you move to La already having done some comedy like in college.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I actually did stand up. The first time I ever did stand up, I was sixteen and I roasted. I was at the junior senior prom and I roasted the senior class. So I had like a thirty minute set from that. I sent that old DVD to Jeff Foxworthy because he lived a couple neighborhoods down for me in Atlanta, and I dropped it off at his house and I see Jeff a lot, and Jeff said that he couldn't believe that I had the balls to do it. And he was like, you know, you sat in my living room and I gave you advice, and you know, you never know what's going to happen. He's like, in damn it if you didn't do it. So, after I graduated high school, they were shooting Blue Collar Comedy Tour. They were shooting their sketch comedy show at the Alliance Theater in Atlanta. He gave me a writing assistant job that summer, and I learned so much. I went to ole Miss. I was doing comedy. I was in like an improv troupe. I left ole Miss moved directly to New York because I always wanted to do SNL, and I obviously like had a background and stand up, but I also love characters and sketch. So I started training at UCB, which is upright Citizen's Brigade, which is kind of like the filter system into SNL. And I had an agent at New York that said, you're super commercial, You've got a great look. You need to go to LA, like you'll SNL will happen, but you've got to go to LA. So I moved to LA, and I always joke like, you have to leave. As soon as you leave LA, that's when it calls you back. As soon as I picked up my life and I had good success in LA, but I was really grinding and like figuring out who I was as an artist. And then once I left LA, now they always call you. And that's why I don't live in La. I live in Atlanta. As soon as you move out of LA, that's when they need you. It's like the old saying as an actor, you never have an audition and then you finally take a vacation and now they need like sixty five self tapes and a producer's call back, and you're like, I'm in Barbados for the first time in three years. Fuck off.

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Speaker 3: You know, I spending a little bit of time there just randomly because I was in Texas forever. Then I moved here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I would never live there, but I would go there for a month at a time, or like on Idol, we'd go out there for a couple weeks at a time, or whatever, whatever the case was. It just felt so insincere all the time because I didn't have a core group though, Like I didn't have a core group of friends out there, so I was only out there working and it was only working people. That just felt so instance like all the time. It felt like everybody was fake, and that.

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Speaker 1: Is very much so the case. But I feel like I was there at a great time. I'm in my like, you know, early mid twenties, I was hustling, grinding, working every job you can imagine, and so.

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Speaker 3: I real jobs, real job got it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like I worked the front desk at this boogie gym in West Hollywood called Soul Psychic.

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Speaker 3: Then you had real people around.

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Speaker 1: You around me. Yeah, But I was always smart because I always put myself and even though I was making twelve dollars and twenty five cents an hour at Soul Cycle. I knew that every important producer, other comedians, all these people would come in. Whitney Cummings would come in and take class, and I would like get her off the wait list, like Anna GASTI are all my favorite comedians. And I would drop a business card into Whitney Cummings bag every weekend. She never saw them. We're friends. Now I've done her podcast. I was like, Whitney, you probably have in the bottom of some old Soul Cycle bags like fifty of my business cards begging you for a job.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I just was smart in how I positioned myself. And the wild thing was in New York, I worked like these incredible restaurant jobs make great money, and then I would do comedy on my night's off. And then I moved to LA and because it wasn't a porn star, I could not get a job at a bar. They were like, unless you were a model, there's no way you could get a job. So then I was like, all right, I really got to hustle and really figure this out.

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Speaker 2: Then what was the point when you're in LA where you're like I got to get out of here, Like what was going on.

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Speaker 1: Well, the only thing is, honestly, my dad passed ruptly and suddenly, so I didn't want to leave Ballet my mom. My dad died very quickly, in like seven days, and so it was kind of like this whole shock, and I had such a great relationship with my dad and my family, so I thought I was just going to move back to Atlanta, very temporarily, maybe for a couple months, helped my family figure out the new normal. It's like, grieve and put the pieces back together. And then I got back and I felt kind of trapped, and you know, and then I was like, this is this grieving process is going to take a lot longer than I expected. But it was a beautiful blessing in the sense that I don't want to say, like, oh, you know, a full circle, look at this. I've had this success because I went through this tragic thing. I don't want to say that, but I do think I had a richer perspective on life and I was grieving. I mean, it's kind of unhinge. I would take like a x Anex and drink glass of white WI then like, let me talk on Instagram stories, and that's what I did. I use Instagram stories when they first came out as my fifteen second moment to like pop out one liners and jokes and it took off. So that's where I really like honed, right, and then I just lived my life and honestly, my audience grieved with me in this wild way, and I think my comedy just became so much richer because I had such a more pointed point of view and i'd like really been through something raw, and it exposed me and my comedy in a totally different way, if that made any sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you think that experience is I hate use the word launch. You think that launched you though, to a lot of people in their understanding or appreciation of you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And it just made you know, it humanizings in a way. And I think so many people reach out to me and they're like, I'm going through loss, I'm going through this, and oh for sure, it definitely opened me up. But also using social media as that, using that specific tool, I really honed that honed that skill of that little fifteen second Instagram story. It's like all these kids that are blown up on TikTok. I was the and then I did put all my characters on Instagram and that's how it just like took off.

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Speaker 3: I'm friends with Dena Hayes.

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Speaker 1: I love Dnay.

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Speaker 2: She's the best, the best, right, the best because she's fearless.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I often look back at how naive I was a lot of times, and I'm very lucky I was that naive because if you actually knew what was about to happen, maybe you wouldn't pursue it.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's terrifying.

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Speaker 2: So but I love Tonay and to watch her do a version of that, I think a lot inspired by you as well. I think she she'd often say that too, but you know, she just kind of lays all of her characters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, every all of her jokes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you find there are there's like a different I hate say generation because you're similar ages. But yeah, but they just did a little after you that that saw you do that, and it kind of motivated them to do that same thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen today, is one of my favorite people on the planet, and if she gives me any credit, I'm so honored that she does so. But these they're knocking it out of the park. But for sure, I think and I miss that, like the wild thing is when you start having success, like I always started in stand up, right, So for me, it's tough because the characters bring me so much joy and it's so freeing and I love being that insane and ridiculous and goofy and silly. But then it's like I did the characters to get the stand up portion, and now I want to go back to the characters. So you know, when I have a new audience, they know me from stand up, but the ogs know me that that's how I started, right, So I mean, I'm going to do this show for Netflix as a joke, and I was like, I can either do my hour that I'm going to shoot two weeks after this comedy festival, or I'm going to go back and do a character show and put on a ball cap and get weird and do what I want to do. Like I'm ready to tap into that avant garde performance art because that's what brings me a lot of joy. You know, anybody can go see my stand up. Come on tour Heather atour dot com.

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Speaker 3: After you record your hour. Yeah, when you start over, completely start over.

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Speaker 1: And I always record my hour at the end of my tour. Some people like to do in the middle, but I it is such weird feeling because you shoot the hour and then you walk off stage and you're like, oh, that was so much fun with a relief, and then you're like, oh shit, I got to start from scratch again. It is the weirdest mental game with yourself.

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Speaker 2: Will you do smaller shows and practice material or we just launch another tour and just no.

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Speaker 1: I will definitely do go and club it out and I will go live my life this summer. I will have a full blown experience and then I'll work the clubs you know, in the fall, and then do another tour.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever pop in and never not tell people you're coming?

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Speaker 1: No? Not really, I mean no, I'll let them know. But yeah, I'll pop in and do shows here and there and just kind of feel it out. But I also too the way my story runs because I'm an old theater kid and I probably said this on too many podcasts, but I like to have an idea of a full show. I will lock myself in my basement in my office for two weeks and just beautiful. Mind it out, you know what I mean? It will look like the scene from Homeland with Kirie Mathison and all the things connecting. I like to have a full story. And then obviously I write on the road and figure things out. But I am going out with an hour. I will figure that out. I will work out chunks and clothes, but I am when you were coming to that. I really like to have it all. It's a feeling. I want you to feel a bunch of different emotions at my shows from the moment that you walk in. That playlist is going to set the exact tone and mood the video, like every element, it's a full production.

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Speaker 2: You did a cruise last year, you're do any of this year. I've never been on my cruise before. We did one too.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You're contained, You're contained, and you're you're just vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, vulnerable is the best way to describe it.

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Speaker 3: And that's not a negative thing. It's both.

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Speaker 2: It's both, but you're it's contained and vulnerable. And what did you think about that experience?

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Speaker 4: I had the best four days of my life.

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Speaker 3: It was four days.

00:21:48
Speaker 1: It was four days or four nights, five days, right, okay. It was unreal and I was in a sorority, so I knew. I felt like this was going to be one giant chapter meeting. I was pumped. Well, first of all, it's surreal because I'm on I'm in this like insane suite that overlooks the lido deck. People cannot see in, but I can see out. So every morning at six am, the entire production staff would stand out on the deck. They would raise flags on the side of the ship that have my face on it. And I was standing in the window with my hands behind my back, and my husband walks by and goes, okay, Kim Jong Un, I doubt like, you look insane. I was like, here, I am looking over my hermit kingdom. It was wild. But then the experience on the ship was so much fun. I basically say, it's like adult spring break meets a chapter meeting meets girls gone Wild and the best way, it was just the best four days of wholesome, non judgmental We are all have the same mind, same likeness, and we just want to have a good time. It was. It was thrilling. I loved it, and that's why when it was such a success and They're like, do you want to do another one? I was like, let's go.

00:22:54
Speaker 4: How did you feel?

00:22:56
Speaker 3: I get really see sick in motion sick. I scroll on my phone, I get sick if I'm walking. It's it's terrible.

00:23:02
Speaker 4: Are you like constantly on a drip of dramma meetings over it?

00:23:05
Speaker 2: It doesn't work, really doesn't work. And I had a really bad experience at a Sean nat Gio for a while and yeah, we spent time on the water and I threw it the whole time and so I had to get up in between throw ups to shoot and so my all, my it was just miserable trauma from it, big time. And so I was like, I don't know if this is gonna work. But they really wanted to do it, and I agreed. But I said, hey, I'm gonna come on. I'm gonna do three nights of the seven Sweet seven night cruise.

00:23:32
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I know.

00:23:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, But also but I have such insecuritybout people even coming, So I thought, this is an expensive ticket.

00:23:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, we would we all do, right?

00:23:39
Speaker 2: So I was I think mostly I was really worried about that, and I used the motion sickness as an excuse for so long because I'm like, I'm seasick, right, I'm really I just to think people would buy tickets to come on a cruise right with me and no us And so I got a little emotion sick. I'm in a musical comedy do We played a couple of shows that night and it was good.

00:23:57
Speaker 3: But my wife was nine months pregnant at the time.

00:24:00
Speaker 5: Oh wow.

00:24:01
Speaker 2: And our doctor was like, you really should not go on the cruise, right, But it was these people. I paid three thousand.

00:24:07
Speaker 1: Dollars to be going on the cruise.

00:24:09
Speaker 4: Listen, this is showbiz baby.

00:24:11
Speaker 1: Okay, she can be crowning, but you know what you're doing, lights, camera action, we're doing the bits off the cruise.

00:24:16
Speaker 3: So went on the cruise for the first part of the cruise.

00:24:19
Speaker 2: Had to leave a little early because my wife and the doctor was like, hey, if you're going to go, you can't be trapped at sea at any time.

00:24:24
Speaker 3: Like, if you're gonna be able.

00:24:25
Speaker 2: To get to a port each day, you're all good. Right, So did that didn't get that sick. I liked that everybody kind of got to know each other. Yeah, there's that initial like what's I'd never buen on a boat that big either.

00:24:36
Speaker 3: That to me was wild to see a boat with elevators.

00:24:38
Speaker 1: See I grew up cruising. Let me tell you something right now, your girl thrives.

00:24:41
Speaker 3: Oh shit, I never mind.

00:24:43
Speaker 1: We were like the kids at the Captain's table. I had the Shirley Temple curls. I'm drinking a Shirley Temple. I'm in like my my debutante dress, and I, you know, hanging out.

00:24:52
Speaker 4: With Mickey and Minnie. I thrived.

00:24:54
Speaker 1: Do you know mean Disney cruises I did as a kid. I mean, I just I love every aspect of it and i' love that you're trapped. People who know me know that I like to trap people. Like at my wedding, the biggest compliment was not about the flowers, the food. The biggest compliment was bringing people from all aspects timelines of my life. And they were like, I loved your friends from LA I loved your old miss friends, and now everyone's still friends. I get a sick high off of like we're all having fun together? Is everyone having fun? Like I could be miserable, but I'm like, are you having so much fun? It's the sickness. I don't know what it is. Somebody diagnosed me online please, But I love bringing a sense of community.

00:25:31
Speaker 2: I was afraid to commit to a second one. As soon as it's sold out. There were like, let's do a second one, but I haven't been on the first one yet. Yeah, and so I was like, I can't do it. I can't commit to a second one. I don't know how I'm gonna feel. And then two, I don't know if I'm gonna like it. And it was great, So we committed to a second one for next year as well.

00:25:45
Speaker 1: Great you should.

00:25:46
Speaker 3: I'd never been, but i'd never seen a boat with an elevator. All I saw was.

00:25:49
Speaker 2: Fot bottoms, five bottoms and trollo motors where I grew up. So that was that was wild to actually get on, like if it's a freaking airport, it's like a massive airport to get on the boat.

00:25:58
Speaker 4: And then you're on the boat and you're like, Okay.

00:26:00
Speaker 1: When it leaves doct you're like, well we're doing this, we're in international waters, we're out here.

00:26:04
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:26:04
Speaker 3: It was pretty. It was much cooler than I thought it was going to be.

00:26:06
Speaker 2: I didn't get a sick as I thought I was going to, and I liked the experience because I thought it would be weird around our being trapped.

00:26:12
Speaker 3: I don't like being trapped. I'm a bit control guy.

00:26:14
Speaker 1: Okay, and I see that, and I like that, but I respect that because I am not a control gal. I need more control of my life. I have no boundaries. I'm like, what is your name? Okay, Carl, come on over. I'm gonna make you a grilled cheese. Tell me your family drama, and then we'll end up exchanging social Security numbers. Like I need to have boundaries in my life.

00:26:33
Speaker 4: So I love that you're a control person.

00:26:35
Speaker 1: I will say it was so funny, I now after I mean, we learned so much on the first cruise. But when I say, like, it was actually so much fun, if I feel this anxiety of how do we top the next one? And Dene's coming on the next cruise and we have such a fun lineup and we're going to continue to add more talent, but I literally am like, that was so much fun. And I got off the ship and I did not even know what an adrenaline. I mean just crash though afterwards, because and I also learned how to maintain my energy. But every night I would be dancing into club with everybody shout out to DJ John Stamps. I literally told our DJ said, I want you to play to early two thousands rap and we are going to beat from the windows to the walls. I want to be grabbing my ankles, busting down, thought Tiana. And when I just saw the unbridled joy on everyone's face, just letting their hair down at three am in open waters, just having a blast, that was the highlight of the ship.

00:27:29
Speaker 4: But then every night I would sit.

00:27:32
Speaker 1: I never got to any of the restaurants because you know, you're working, you're running around. I didn't sleep for five days and I would sit. And my manager found me one night in my room in between shows and I'm just eating a tea bone steak by myself, and she's like, are you okay. I was just in silence in the dark eating steak. I was like, I just have to recalibrate for a minute. And so I only lived off steak on the ship because I would have like a twenty minute window to like scarf something down.

00:27:55
Speaker 4: I'm like pure protein. I just see protein.

00:27:58
Speaker 1: So my butler in this ship was like, she's had a lot of stakes, like we're worried about her.

00:28:02
Speaker 4: She hasn't shit in four days.

00:28:05
Speaker 3: Did you ever watch the show on Netflix about the woman that was on the cruise?

00:28:09
Speaker 4: Did I the one who went missing?

00:28:10
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:28:11
Speaker 1: So actually I said the next cruise, we should just go to that port and cure us how and we will find them. If I have two thousand women on a ship, you don't think we could find her in thirty five minutes.

00:28:23
Speaker 4: You just release all at once, release the hound, Yeah, truly.

00:28:26
Speaker 1: Release the hounds are all running around, and like Lily Pulitzer, they would find her. I was furious by that documentary me.

00:28:32
Speaker 2: Too, And when I was on the cruise, I had perfectly time to watch it. I don't know, two weeks before and one of the cruise, like I'm more on Yeah, yeah, I shouldn't have watched it. It's like, yeah, you know, watching airplane crash news before you get on the flight, right And I watched her right before, and then I found myself like looking to see someone I couldn't have fallen over my boat, like there was nowhere to fall into because there were like life boats around the side.

00:28:55
Speaker 3: What do you think happened to her?

00:28:57
Speaker 4: I think she was trafficked.

00:28:58
Speaker 1: I think she got off the island, whether she was drugged or she was kind of had a wild night and ended up leaving with that guy. And I think she's still alive. I think she's somewhere out there. Okay, the part of the documentary, and I haven't seen it in a minute, so correct me if I'm wrong. The part of the documentary were somebody flags that like the dad found a essentially, you know, an ad for her online. Yeah, and nobody tried to order her. She was like down in Venezuela.

00:29:24
Speaker 3: I agree.

00:29:25
Speaker 1: I would have been like, hello, order, yes, how much money one hundred thousand dollars send her my way? Can't wait to be a pervert. And then you're like, she's ohned. We got I mean what yeah, yeah, say I was here. Look I got goosebumps. Right now. I'm so angry about that documentary.

00:29:37
Speaker 2: I just don't trust that documentaries are really giving me the three sixty of the reality of what they found. That they're giving us what they found, but they're adding or taking a little away for the sake of the entertainment of us, right taking in the story. Because there was also the part during the Christmas when whomever it would always come to her website Christmas and Thanksgiving. Yes, And it was like, can you not track back, like we have the abilit to track everything.

00:30:01
Speaker 3: They're listening to this to our phone right now.

00:30:03
Speaker 2: They're monitoring, you know, whatever governorate. They're making sure you and I are saying straight stuff right now. Yeah, we can't figure out who where that's coming from, who's logging onto that site?

00:30:13
Speaker 1: First of all, And I would have never left the island if that was my kid. My ass would be in curious. How I would be a resident. I would run for president, I'd be the mayor. I would run the whole damn country after that. And I thought about that when I saw that, I was like, my dad would have never left that island. It wouldn't have happened.

00:30:31
Speaker 2: Now.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: I know you you know, we don't know all the details, but I was just like, and I'm not a parent, but I could only imagine if my kid was missing, and I know she was what twenty one, No, I wouldn't be I'd be there.

00:30:42
Speaker 4: I'd be running the damn country.

00:30:44
Speaker 3: It's a great point though, by just ordering the kid.

00:30:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, why didn't you order it? Order the damn kid?

00:30:49
Speaker 1: And at that point she was like thirty it looked like her, and then they had like that FBI forensic gal who was like, yeah, the tattoos match up. You know, shit, the tattoos match up.

00:30:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's not a like they did that kind of evaluation of it as well, like there's been no heavy manipulation.

00:31:03
Speaker 3: Of the picture. Yeah, that's a crazy one. So you don't have kids, don't have kids.

00:31:07
Speaker 2: I was asking my wife some questions because I had listened sporadically to the podcast.

00:31:12
Speaker 3: That's where I've consumed most of you. It's a weird thing to say, but I've consumed most of it.

00:31:15
Speaker 1: I like that, honestly, kind of sexy.

00:31:17
Speaker 3: I like that.

00:31:18
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take it.

00:31:19
Speaker 2: She said that you were talking about and I may mess this up, so always forgive me. You were talking about possibly IVF, but you were talking about how how you were doing it and you were doing it wrong, and someone messaged you and said, hey, you're not doing this correctly.

00:31:35
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I did IVF wrong twice in a row. During the pandemic. I was home off tour and I said, okay, I'm going to get proactive about my fertility. I went in thought it was going to be a quick in and out. I'm going to get a couple embryos, easy, breezy and really, you know, I have control of my life. I get in there and my doctor's like, uh, you should have done this ten years ago. So I had to get really aggressive with trying to get some eggs. I did two rounds of it. You're doing what two weeks of shots, you know, five shots a day. The first round we couldn't get any eggs, right, Like, I had nothing developed enough to retrieve an egg. And then I'm talking about it on the podcast because that's also like my weekly therapy is just trauma dumping on the podcast. And then I went for another round and they were like, you're completely mixing the medicine wrong.

00:32:20
Speaker 4: So I would prey to just nurses on the internet.

00:32:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, dms who are like, hey, you're not doing this right, cause I would pre batch it. So you have to mix all these you know, medicines together. First of all, I'm not a chemist. It's insane to me that they send home me, a civilian of the world, just to go home and mix all these drugs and then inject myself. Unreal. Now I know that there's like concierge nurse services where they can come over and like make sure you do it right. I went to Ole Miss like okay, And so I was pre batching the medicine and then putting it in the biles and putting it on a tray in my uh, in my fridge in the garage, like oh, it's fine. They're like, no, you have to mix the medicine. In that moment, you know, I just I threw thousands of dollars to the drink because I didn't read the directions right. So kids read the directions thoroughly, but no, it was very complicated. And also my body was just like you know what, howther we decide we're going to give you some more material, so we're just gonna have you struggle a bit. And then I finally did a Hail Mary third round and we got one embryo and it's wild now with the technology. So I know, I have a daughter on ice.

00:33:20
Speaker 3: Like that's why they know the gender.

00:33:22
Speaker 1: They know the gender. Uh huh, I have a daughter on ice. So I'll probably do another round this fall to try and get some more. But it's a gnarly and of course I wanted to share that experience. I get asked a lot like what made you share this? I'm like, cause I know that my audience, that's eighty percent women. How many of them are also going through this experience? How many of them were like what in the hell am I doing right now? And no one talks about it. And then you go to the fertility clinic. You're sitting on couches, you know, four couches this size. Everyone's in there doing the same blood draw confused, bloated, pissed off, angry, unwell. And then the men will always come in and like drop off their like semen sample, and they kind of come in sheepishly and they're like, hey, you know, it's like walk away. We don't care, Bruce, get out of here, just leave us. We're all pissed off because we're on hormones. You know, it was a semen sample.

00:34:14
Speaker 3: Things embarrassing though, So.

00:34:16
Speaker 1: Inside I had to do that.

00:34:17
Speaker 3: You had to do that, well, I am not twenty five.

00:34:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so before my wife and I were like, hey, we're going to have a baby, I was like I need to get tested, yeah, and so I proactively went up. That's a weird thing to do because everybody knows what you're doing.

00:34:30
Speaker 1: Everybody knows what's like.

00:34:31
Speaker 2: They know what the cooler we know, baby, well, no, they even know once you go in there, like what's like. They know behind that door there's no X ray vision, but they know what's happening behind you.

00:34:38
Speaker 1: They know you're sitting on that awkward leather couch with your just your magazines. If you will, you know, it's crazy and this is not bringing a hip of violation because we don't know who did this. I had a nurse DM me. She said that in her clinic they have a problem with older men. They will come in and they instead of giving a semen sample. It's like an older guid and he's on his third marriage to a younger woman and instead of giving their proper sample in a cup, they will spit in the cup instead, because you know, they want to pregnant. They don't want her to get pregnant. They don't want to have kids. They don't have the balls to be like, hey, Trish, don't want to have another kid with you. So they say they see this a lot that these old and then they just have to say, oh, it's an inconclusive you know specimen. We can't we can't read it. And they'll just do it over and over again. And then they've been like, have the balls to tell your wife you don't have kids?

00:35:28
Speaker 2: And they probably all know what's going on, and they all look at each other.

00:35:31
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, inconclusive.

00:35:32
Speaker 4: Inconclusive, that's crazy.

00:35:34
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So if you're a young gal out there and you're married to an old man and you're getting inconclusive, sit him down, take him for all of his money and he's not giving you a kid.

00:35:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I got I didn't get inclusive. I got Lebron on mine. Yeah it's pretty good.

00:35:50
Speaker 1: Hell yeah.

00:35:50
Speaker 3: They came out and they were like, which one of you?

00:35:52
Speaker 4: Yep, that's right.

00:35:54
Speaker 1: I thought for sure it was going to be I could blame my husband for this, but he also was a Lebron. But now now he's addicted to zens. He's fully addicted to zens, and if we're gonna do another round, I keep getting these ads like, you know, get off nicotine for a while. And my husband, you know, listens to like a biohacking thing where it's like, oh, you can have forty five zens in your upper lip a day, but because it's pure nicotine, you're gonna be fine. And I'm like, oh, are you zened out right? Now?

00:36:17
Speaker 4: You get reroll zippy around the house. So I'm gonna have.

00:36:20
Speaker 1: To deal with that monster this summer, being like get off the zen's.

00:36:23
Speaker 2: There are people like even Tucker Carlson. His clips will come up talking about nicotine. Yeah, and he's going, Nicotine's great, it's got a bad rap. Yes, yeah, Big Pharma is trying to cancel nicotine.

00:36:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:36:35
Speaker 3: I'm I don't know who to believe about what now.

00:36:39
Speaker 1: I don't either, And the fact is that I see some Tucker Carlson clips now and I'm like, he has a point. I'm so confused.

00:36:45
Speaker 4: I think we're all very.

00:36:46
Speaker 2: Confusedly comes up and I'm like, I agree, what the crap?

00:36:51
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. My girlfriend said me a clip of hers the other day, and I was like, I'm gonna have to dial into this twelve part series of what's happening? I mean, really, truly, we are living the up down, up is down, left is right. I don't know what's happening, but yes, And then I've also heard of some women that will do the nicotine patches and it's supposed to be great for your hormones. So I'm willing to be a guinea pig and try anything for the greater good. But my husband seems to say that the yeah, the zen pouches are really elevating his health, and I'm like, I don't think that's the case.

00:37:22
Speaker 3: How do you feel about bringing the kid into the world.

00:37:25
Speaker 1: That's a great question.

00:37:27
Speaker 2: I just had a baby, and I struggle not with having a baby, but with like, what is happening. But then I think to myself, Okay, prohibition happens. Yeah, And these parents are like, we can't believe kid, our kids are going to be around on alcohols here because they went through prohibition right and with us now and they're like twelve year olds who won't think weed's weird when they get older because it's legal in a lot of places.

00:37:52
Speaker 3: But and this is a weird thought.

00:37:54
Speaker 2: But I'm like, well, my daughter, who was just born weeks ago, think that aliens are normal?

00:37:58
Speaker 3: Will they be real?

00:37:59
Speaker 1: Yeah? Her buddies, well yeah, because it kind of hopes like that's happening now, Like what will she have the internet?

00:38:05
Speaker 2: For example, when we were young, like we got to see no internet and internet, you know, if you're born in like the eight I was born in the eighties. Eighties, Yeah, we got to not have internet and have internet, so we got that. We're and so kids now don't know not having the internet. Yeah, but that also brought a lot of bad I just I just struggle with like what she's going to.

00:38:24
Speaker 1: Struggle with it all the time, and you know, I really do. I'm like, do I need to bring another person into this world?

00:38:29
Speaker 2: Now?

00:38:30
Speaker 3: Does the world need another person?

00:38:31
Speaker 6: Then?

00:38:31
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:38:32
Speaker 1: But then I think, like I'm fun so yes, like maybe I maybe my offspring is the one who can change the world. Probably not. Yeah, it is a gnarly feeling. And I agree that we did grow up in the best time because I mean, there was nothing better than dial up internet, right that cord went into the back of the phone jack and then went into the back of the computer, and then the phone line was tied up, so like if God forbid there was a family emergency, no one knew Grandma died because you were like in chat room, just tinkering away. Those were the golden years.

00:39:01
Speaker 3: Okay, chat rooms were awesome.

00:39:03
Speaker 1: Chatrooms were the best. Chat rooms were the absolute best. So I agree, and I mean I'm even trying to like understand AI and do all this and really stay up, and even my brain feels rattled. I think I am getting dumber, I will say, like the brain is completely fried. So I'm trying to figure out how to have a sense of like I don't want computers to run my life, but like how do I not use Google? Like how do I actually have my syneps fire enough so that I can make decisions on my own without asking my phone.

00:39:32
Speaker 2: I feel like my brain rot comes from slowly replacing reading with TikTok, Like, yes, just slowly, slowly, And I'm trying to, you know, be purposeful with reading books because it's so easy not to because there's so much content everywhere, and I find myself doing the same going. I'm probably day by day slowly just on TikTok more, which is not good. Obviously it's not good for our brains.

00:39:54
Speaker 1: Oh the rot. I mean, I get to the point where it's like the little like night owl pops up and it's like you've been scrolling for three and a half hours.

00:40:02
Speaker 4: You're gonna die soon? Please?

00:40:03
Speaker 3: Are you okay? Are you okay?

00:40:05
Speaker 4: I say, your Bible, bitch, like figure it.

00:40:07
Speaker 2: Out, like when China's asking you through TikTok if you're okay, Yeah, something is wrong because I do the same thing.

00:40:13
Speaker 3: That message comes on.

00:40:14
Speaker 2: It's like a young woman, Hey, yeah, maybe she'd get off TikTok.

00:40:17
Speaker 1: Maybe she get off TikTok.

00:40:19
Speaker 4: Maybe you should like let your brain simmer for a little bit.

00:40:21
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:40:22
Speaker 1: And isn't it in China that they don't allow.

00:40:24
Speaker 3: You can't get on it.

00:40:24
Speaker 2: You can't get on it. It's only learning to take education until like twelve years old. Smart, but they give it to us. That's full McDonald's.

00:40:31
Speaker 1: I thought about downloading one of the apps, and I don't know if they're kind of bs, but it will like teach you history lessons instead, so you still get the addiction of like scrolling, but you're learning about, like I don't know, you know, a.

00:40:41
Speaker 4: Couple of world wars. That's what I need to do.

00:40:45
Speaker 3: I don't know if that addiction would feel the same.

00:40:46
Speaker 1: But then I see like this, there's a guy right now who ordered eggs off Facebook marketplace and he and he's in a fight with this woman, and I'm like, I need to know about the eggs from Facebook marketplace. Like I am dialed in to random people's drama and I it brings me so much joy in my life. And then I'll sit down at dinner with people who are not on TikTok and they have no idea what I'm talking about.

00:41:05
Speaker 4: I'm like, you guys are losers. Get with the program.

00:41:09
Speaker 3: There was a double edged.

00:41:10
Speaker 2: Sword the story of the Charlie Sheen documentary where he was maybe hardcore on crack and whatever the drug was, and they started slowly weakening it.

00:41:19
Speaker 3: That's what I need to happen.

00:41:20
Speaker 2: I made like some of the fifteen second tiktoks to be history lessons, like out of my control. I just need to see this is Thomas Jefferson, even if I just need people to replace it slowly, because I get the same thing.

00:41:32
Speaker 1: I need to know what the Alex Cooper Alex Earl drama is, and then I also need to know about what was Thomas Jefferson about.

00:41:39
Speaker 4: I respect that.

00:41:39
Speaker 2: And then you can hit me with Brianna Chicken Fry, but I need Thomas Jefferson in the middle of.

00:41:45
Speaker 1: I need to know about the Egyptian Times.

00:41:48
Speaker 6: Same The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the Bobby Cast.

00:42:04
Speaker 2: Do you ever pull videos? Do you ever put one on and then go like that? Either didn't work or I don't like what I said and take it down.

00:42:10
Speaker 4: No, I definitely think they're listen.

00:42:12
Speaker 1: I have a team now that helps me like figure out the algorithm, and even then I haven't figured it out.

00:42:16
Speaker 4: I do think there are days where I'm like, what is happening?

00:42:19
Speaker 1: But no, I don't really pull I am so I know that I can't compete with these kids who have TikTok down to a fucking science.

00:42:27
Speaker 4: So I'm just like, let it rip.

00:42:29
Speaker 1: Just let it rip.

00:42:30
Speaker 4: And the videos that are not produced that.

00:42:32
Speaker 1: Is it's literally me picking up my phone and be like, this is what I feel in this exact moment are always the ones that go viral. So I hate getting these like hype reels about like look at how glamorous tourists look, at how crazy it is. We do it because we sell tickets, but in the reality people want to hear me bitch about whatever you know, feud I'm having at that exact moment with my husband.

00:42:50
Speaker 3: Do you still get nervous about ticket sales?

00:42:52
Speaker 1: I mean, for sure, everybody, right, I mean, I've been very blessed that it's been successful, but yeah, there are days and I'm I'm still even going into newer markets where I mean, I feel like I've hit every market, but there's still days where I'm like, hey, i've never played Juno, let's go, you know, and you don't know what's going to happen. But it's also so competitive. I'm so honored that people come to my shows and have a good time, that I have repeat customers. I'm like, that's what it's about. And yes, if new people come along, fantastic, but I'm doing it for the people who've been there since the beginning.

00:43:22
Speaker 2: Are there any comedians now that you look at and have like a professional healthy jealousy of because they're so good?

00:43:27
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, well, you know, I think it's just incredible to see like what Leanne's done, and you know, I have like eight shows and development and then they never get picked up. So I would like to Being on the road is the most magical thing, and stand up is my one true love, but I would love to be acting more so. Anybody who's been able to have their own show or to translate that to television, that's.

00:43:49
Speaker 4: Really my first love. So I would love to have that.

00:43:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's why Whitney's cool. Yeah, Well she's also she's very funny.

00:43:56
Speaker 1: She's very funny.

00:43:57
Speaker 2: She also writes for other people very funny, and she'll rites for herself very funny. Like she kind of nails all of those. When you say you have all these shows in development, are you the center of all them?

00:44:07
Speaker 1: I am the center of all them. But this show that I have at Hulu right now is my real joy because I'm finally playing somebody other than myself. And again it taps, and this is the one. Please, dear God, let this go, let this go to get picked up. This is the one where I'm like, it's tapping into the like how I started, where yes, stand up will always be about me, but playing a gnarly role where I'm telling somebody else's story that I've of course written and created is really what I want to do. You know, I got into comedy because I grew up on Joan Rivers and if I could emulate her career, I mean, I'm obsessed with her. I got to meet her. She gave me your blessing in comedy. I feel very grateful for that. But like, my dream is to eventually be on QVC one day, hawking pajminas and talking to women in the middle of the night while I'm smoking cigarette and drinking white wine, being like, honey, tell me you problems you need for forty nine ninety nine. You can have two calf t hands that'll make can you feel fantastic? Like that's the goal, right to just have a product, sell it, and then I'll live in the Dirks and Caicos or in Tuscany and you'll never have to hear my annoying voice ever again.

00:45:10
Speaker 2: The fact that she would save and organize all of her jokes, Yeah, it was pretty amazing, pretty amazing, how attention to detail she was. Yeah, Like, and then you know Jean Smart and Hacks is loosely roughly based on that situation.

00:45:24
Speaker 3: And you said you get to meet her.

00:45:25
Speaker 4: I got to meet her, So I would go.

00:45:26
Speaker 1: I worked at a restaurant on forty third between eighth and ninth, and there was a club right across from it, and when i'd get off my shift, I'd go see Joan and she would have these giant note cards on stage. I mean, she was in her eighties, had these giant note cards on stage and she's ripping through jokes. And I would always like hang outside the back door and she would come out and I'm beg Miss Rivers, I love you.

00:45:48
Speaker 4: I have a lot of photos with her.

00:45:50
Speaker 1: And she was so kind. So I moved to La. I'm in. I'm sitting in out at this bar by myself that my buddy was bargaining at and I hear her. I hear her walk in the door. She and she was the one who told me. She said you need go to LA. You've got a commercial look. So she sits in a booth and I'm like, oh my god, Miss Rivers is here. So I go up to the booth and her assistant in me is like, do you want a photo. I was like, no, no, no, I've got a photo with Joan. I said, John, I want you to know I followed your lead. You told me to come to LA. I'm here and thank you so much for giving me that advice. And I'm I'm three days in, but I hopefully if this works out. She's so kind. I go and sit back at the bar. She wraps up her dinner. She comes up and she's like, I have a good feeling about you. She said, you have hutzpah. You followed your gut. You're gonna make it, don't worry you got this. So when she passed away, I was working at Soul Cycle and was Hollywood. I came out. I had taken a class, so I'd come out of the spin glass. The entire staff looks like like ill, They're white as a ghost, and I'm like, what's going on. I thought they were about to tell me my entire family had died. They were like, you need to sit down. Jones passed, I mean, and I was inconsolable. And I knew her very very loosely right, just as a fan, and I mean, people sent flowers to my apartment as if she died.

00:47:00
Speaker 4: When she died, I was devastated.

00:47:02
Speaker 1: And so years later, after she had passed, they had a big auction at Christie's and I didn't have any money this one. I was like first starting out, and all I wanted were these giant Tiffany silver dog bowls with her dog's name on him. I was like, this is so cool. Didn't have any money, didn't get them, And then they just did another auction last year for her stuff. And I'm on a flight on my way to my show in Tampa and my I'm like, honey, you got to get in there. Like, I can't do this on the plane. And my husband won for me one of her tour jackets.

00:47:33
Speaker 5: Oh wow.

00:47:34
Speaker 1: And it's the first thing going in my new house. It's gorgeous. It's like champagne color with feathers, and I'm going to put it in a giant acrylic box. And I want you to walk in my home and be like, this is the house that Joan built.

00:47:44
Speaker 4: And I'm friends with Melissa.

00:47:46
Speaker 1: Now her daughter, and she brings me on her podcast and it is so full circle. Like when I started doing the e red Carpets, it was because you know, Joan did it. It's just I love her so much and she was really my idol in comedy.

00:47:59
Speaker 3: Who else you know?

00:48:02
Speaker 1: I go back. I loved a Richard Pryor. I love a Carlin. I liked anybody who said the thing, who did not hold back and who said it. And I think if Carlin was around right now, my god, you go back and watch this stuff. It is so poignant.

00:48:16
Speaker 2: I watched I literally watched George Colin, I do Advertiser Allla by last Ar.

00:48:20
Speaker 1: Everything that he's saying back then twenty thirty years ago is happening right now.

00:48:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the story of his special that he recorded right before nine to eleven.

00:48:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, Yeah.

00:48:33
Speaker 2: I was a massive George Carland fan. I never got to see him and do a live show, and I bought tickets to see a show and he was coming to Austin. I lived in Austin at the time, and he was playing in the Paramount, which is like my favorite theater, and he died like a week before I got to go watch him. But I was a massive fan then, and to watch his stuff now it resonates so hard right now, I don't think I fully got it, or maybe times weren't.

00:48:52
Speaker 3: Is crazy for me.

00:48:53
Speaker 1: Then I had a theater teacher at a very religious school that I went to in Atlanta, and he would always tell me, He's like, Heather, you loved Carlin, and he like wasn't supposed to be pushing Carlin on me, and was like, trust me, trust me, you'll like the Doobie Brothers and you'll love George Carland. And so I was like forty and listening to Carland like he just I adored him.

00:49:10
Speaker 2: When I did my honors thesis in college at Present, it was seventy pages and it was in front of the faculty wow, And I did it on his the seven words you can't say on TV radio, right, but I did.

00:49:22
Speaker 3: I use that.

00:49:23
Speaker 2: But how the industry and the FC is changing, and you can say some of these words now, but I used his like I was such a I was so inspired by George Carlin.

00:49:30
Speaker 3: I used that entire Well it's more than a joke, but that monologue with which is one of the best.

00:49:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love that.

00:49:40
Speaker 1: And you know, I hate now when people are like, are you a clean comic or like, you know, don't you love clean comics? That's great, that's their thing. But my whole, my whole shtick is it's not even a stick. I'm saying the things on stage that all of my girlfriends are saying while they're playing majong, while they're in their mommy and me group, while they're figuring it out. So why would I filter myself on stage? If that's if these are the real conversations that are people that people are having.

00:50:04
Speaker 3: Do you feel that it hurts you in privates at all? Or do you just clean up it when you.

00:50:06
Speaker 1: Do a private uh wait, we'll say that again, like a private gig gig? Oh no, I mean I listen I can clean up for corporate all day long. I mean, those corporate gigs are fantastic. Send me to a convention center somewhere in Boise and I will what are we selling wind decks? I will do windex jokes all day. I'm trying to buy a boat, you know. But no, no, it doesn't hurt me. But it's it's funny too. Especially being a female comedian, people will say, like, so you're not a clean comic. I'm like no, And just because I'm a woman, if that's always a question, I'm going to say the things that all women are saying on stage, like why would I Now, I can't say that Ford, what are we doing here? We're adults. We're adults here, you know.

00:50:47
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

00:51:02
Speaker 3: How do you know the show didn't go well?

00:51:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can feel it? Can I tell you? When you know the show crushed? You could be out there. Of course, your fans are gonna love your shit. When I walk off stage.

00:51:12
Speaker 4: And a security guard it's like, damn, girl, let me get your number.

00:51:15
Speaker 1: They're like, really love the shit. When I walk off stage and I've either made one of the union guys in a theater laugh really hard or a security guard. I'm like, I crushed.

00:51:26
Speaker 3: I've seen every show and as also, they're doing a job.

00:51:29
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:51:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't come for that, they just come to do their hours.

00:51:32
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just in Red Bank, New Jersey, and I love that theater. And these guys afterwards are like I'm telling you right now, we filmed so many specials here. That was the funniest night. I had so much fun. Oh my god. You know, have you thought about doing TV? You know, they think they've discovered you. I'm like, I played this theater four times, like you really should think about doing this full time. And I'm like, I had a sold out show, serve two thousand people, but yes, I will consider doing this full time. I had a really good time and I'm like, thanks, mo, I appreciate it.

00:52:00
Speaker 3: What are you taking a break again?

00:52:01
Speaker 1: Uh this summer because I'm gonna shot my special at the end of May in Knoxville and then you won't see me for two months. You know. Of course I have my podcast and were running around, but I travel in the summer and I just I unplug. Why Knoxville you know it's funny. I love shooting my specials in the South. My first one was in Kentucky. My last one was at the Fox Seat in Atlanta. And after this whole Lane Kiffin debacle at ole Miss, I had so many people reach out to me from Tennessee and they were like, Heather, we went through the same thing as you. We know your heartbroken by Lane Kiffin going to LSU. Please come shoot your special here. And I adore Knoxville. It's a great comedy crowd. And I said, you know what, We're all in this together. We're all creepy together. I'm to shoot it in Knoxville.

00:52:45
Speaker 3: Have you met Pete Golden yet, the new coach?

00:52:47
Speaker 1: So I'm his wife is my sority sister, and she's a oh way, yeah, yeah, so you're in. I'm in. But I haven't met him yet, but you're in. I'm in.

00:52:57
Speaker 3: So if you know the wife.

00:52:58
Speaker 1: I'm in, shout out. I tell my Delta gave his sisters. Yeah, so I'm in. And I really truly adore ole Miss And I ended up there on a total whim. That's not where I wanted to go to school. And it ended up being the best four years of my life. I now own a home there that I've went out for football games and Oxford is such a magical place and it truly changed my life. And so I'm just the biggest old miss fan.

00:53:22
Speaker 3: Do you hate cow Bells?

00:53:23
Speaker 1: I hate him? Gets obnoxious.

00:53:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough.

00:53:26
Speaker 1: The only time each every year cow Bell is in the Will Ferrell SNL sketch. Okay, other than that, you're out of your minds. And I even dated a guy that went to who lived in Starkville and I never once visited him.

00:53:36
Speaker 4: I said, if you want this relationship to work, you're gonna have to come to Oxford. I'm not going down there.

00:53:41
Speaker 1: And I have plenty of friends that went to Mississippi State, but I'm like, no, I'm not going there. Yeah, absolutely not.

00:53:46
Speaker 3: I really appreciate coming by. This has been awesome.

00:53:48
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm such a fan of yours and I really appreciate it, and and I just you know, it's it's such a refreshing, honest conversation. And congratulations on everything you're doing. Truly.

00:53:57
Speaker 3: Oh thanks, Yeah, I had a baby, that's all we're doing.

00:54:00
Speaker 1: Listen, that's huge.

00:54:01
Speaker 3: That's I mean, I'm saying that's all like, that's what it's. It's a lot.

00:54:05
Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot, and you know a.

00:54:08
Speaker 2: Great way, And I want to make sure that nobody's confusing what I'm saying. Yeah, it's awesome, but it's a lot.

00:54:14
Speaker 1: It's a lot, and you're obviously a good dad and a good partner, so you want to you're all all hands on deck.

00:54:20
Speaker 4: And I think it's a lot. It doesn't matter who it's happening to.

00:54:23
Speaker 1: It's a lot.

00:54:24
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't think I'm a good dad or good partner, and hopefully that makes me a good partner.

00:54:28
Speaker 1: Oh wow, why do you think that you're not a good dad or partner? Because and it does make you a good partner because you actually care.

00:54:34
Speaker 3: That's it.

00:54:35
Speaker 2: I'm so concerned about it, yea, that I don't know if there's actual actually the ability to be a good dad or good partner, because whatever it is, I don't feel like I meet whatever standard that is. But then I can go, well, maybe that's what makes me a good partner because I continue to try to achieve a higher standard.

00:54:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got goals and expectations for yourself.

00:54:52
Speaker 3: Spend a lot of time in therapy. I got two therapists.

00:54:54
Speaker 4: Listen, I've got a therapist.

00:54:55
Speaker 1: And she told me the other day, she was like, so, when are you gonna start feeling your feet? I said, huh, I said, Claire, what do you mean? She goes, when are you gonna start getting like emotional and like crying? I said, do you want me to cry? Because I don't have time to cry. I literally told her that. She's like, I can tell you're an impath and you feel other people's feelings very deeply, Like I can read a room. I can spot at the back of a bar that's some some gals upset. I can feel it, but I don't know how to feel mine because I'm like, I don't have time to be upset. We got to keep working. We got shit to do. Like, I'll get there, I'll move on.

00:55:25
Speaker 3: Do you go to therapy regularly now, can you? Yeah?

00:55:28
Speaker 1: I mean it's all over you schedule. Yeah, I'm not doing in person. You know my girls in Birmingham shout out to Claire.

00:55:33
Speaker 2: Do not feel like somebody's gonna be like I won't do therapy on zoom. I feel like people are watching me.

00:55:38
Speaker 1: You don't think they could have a hidden camera in the little vase. They got that nice orchid on their desk. Please there we Gordon, I'll trust no one. Here's my thing though, too. I share so much of my life. There's nothing that would come out in therapy that somebody would be like, wow, bombshell.

00:55:54
Speaker 2: Like I probably already said it on my own podcast. All right, we talked about it before you came in. But Heather on right, Heather on tour dot com website. And then the cruise absolutely not yet naps.

00:56:06
Speaker 4: Not cruise. It's Heather at sea dot com.

00:56:08
Speaker 1: And if you've never been on a cruise, I'm telling you this is the perfect entry level to your cruise experience. You'll have the time of your life. And honestly, I just feel so insanely blessed and honored that people will trust me, uh with their vacation experience and it is It is just the most fun you'll ever have.

00:56:26
Speaker 2: I think any flags on my face on it, so I need to put that into They never.

00:56:29
Speaker 1: Let them know. You want a full wrap of the ship with your face and that is the most out of body experience you walk on and you're like, who the hell did one I didn't ask for it okay, so I want everybody to know I'm not that vain, but also too, it is really wild when you see your face on a ship and you're like, what is happening? Like people, I mean, I still get I'm still in awe that people that this is my life and people tune in, and I'm so grateful for that, but it is crazy. I'm like, do you guys know that you came to see me? Like I live with my mom, Like everybody, calm down, you know. Heather, thank you, Hey, thank you. This has been great.

00:57:02
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production