Bon Jovi's "New Jersey" (1988) : Track by Track!

<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, welcome back to the Surely you can't
<v Speaker 1>be serious, get hold.
<v Speaker 2>Hold hold. Why is bon Jovi's bed always messy? Why
<v Speaker 2>because he doesn't think it matters if you make it
<v Speaker 2>or not.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we can only go up from here, folk. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we are back today to discuss bon Jovi's fourth studio album,
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey.
<v Speaker 2>I am so excited to talk about this album. This
<v Speaker 2>is one that I had. I told you i'd never
<v Speaker 2>Got Slippery when wet loved the songs off of it,
<v Speaker 2>never bought the album, but when New Jersey came out,
<v Speaker 2>I was there picking up my copy, had my tape.
<v Speaker 2>I still have it today, same tape that I bought
<v Speaker 2>when I was twelve.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, listen, this is the honest truth. On
<v Speaker 1>September nineteenth, nineteen eighty eight, the day that this album
<v Speaker 1>was released, Yeah, and I think they were always released
<v Speaker 1>on Tuesdays, if that's I remember correctly. I told my
<v Speaker 1>mom I got up for school, said Mom, I can't
<v Speaker 1>go to school today. You have to take me to
<v Speaker 1>the record store so that I can buy bon Jovi's
<v Speaker 1>new album. Uh huh, you know what my mom said?
<v Speaker 2>She said what she said, let's go oh, that's a
<v Speaker 2>good one.
<v Speaker 1>She took me and I was the first person that
<v Speaker 1>I knew that owned bon Jovies New Jersey album.
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty sweet.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a sorry. She and I went to lunch
<v Speaker 1>and then she took me to school after lunch. Uh huh,
<v Speaker 1>so I could show it and brag it nice.
<v Speaker 2>So that is awesome.
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we love this album. Oh thank you, mom. I'm
<v Speaker 1>still grateful for that. If you haven't had a chance
<v Speaker 1>to go back and listen to our Slippery win Wet
<v Speaker 1>episode that was last week. The week prior to that,
<v Speaker 1>we kind of did a bon Jovi introduction. We call
<v Speaker 1>it Prelude to Prayer. So this is the third part
<v Speaker 1>of a three part on bon Jovi. So, from the
<v Speaker 1>release of the Slippery win Wet album in August of
<v Speaker 1>eighty six, yes, bon joviy tours and tours and tours
<v Speaker 1>until October of eighty seven. Yes, they take about a
<v Speaker 1>month month break and John and Richie start calling each
<v Speaker 1>other yep, and it goes from Hey, what are you
<v Speaker 1>up to today? To Hey, I've got this couple of
<v Speaker 1>chords I want you to hear, or I've got this
<v Speaker 1>hook or I've got this lyric, and so it progressed
<v Speaker 1>into hey, I've got some stuff that we can start
<v Speaker 1>working on.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's seventeen songs that they end up.
<v Speaker 1>With seventeen demos, yeah, And they were anxious to get
<v Speaker 1>back at it. If you've ever done something great, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you want to get out there and prove that you
<v Speaker 1>can do it again. And it wasn't a fluke, right,
<v Speaker 1>and so they were very anxious to get back in
<v Speaker 1>the studio and record more hits.
<v Speaker 2>They didn't want the album to be a one hit wonder,
<v Speaker 2>and so they were out there doing everything they could
<v Speaker 2>to create another You Give Love a Bad Name, right,
<v Speaker 2>which is pretty tricky, and so they enlisted the help
<v Speaker 2>again of Desmond Child. Uh huh.
<v Speaker 1>They tried so hard to recreate the next big You
<v Speaker 1>Give Love a Bad Name, that the first song they
<v Speaker 1>wrote is a song called Love is War, Yeah, which
<v Speaker 1>you can hear it's on the special Day in New Jersey.
<v Speaker 1>They actually had to omit it because it's the same
<v Speaker 1>chord progression as You Give Love a Bad Name. Like,
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to make it so bad that they actually repeated.
<v Speaker 2>It, right. And it's interesting. I've heard Desmond Child talk
<v Speaker 2>and he says, there's a real hook in the title
<v Speaker 2>is a key part of songwriting, and what he tries
<v Speaker 2>to do is do things that seem to have almost
<v Speaker 2>opposite meaning, you know, love and bad name that title alone.
<v Speaker 1>Sure is dude looks like a lady. I hate myself
<v Speaker 1>for loving you.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so there are several songs. I mean, love is
<v Speaker 2>War is an obvious title there, but I mean Bad
<v Speaker 2>Medicine yep, obviously good inb Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's all
<v Speaker 2>that kind of idea of let's take two things that
<v Speaker 2>don't seem to go together because it captures people's attention.
<v Speaker 1>All right. So when New Jersey comes out in September
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen eighty eight, the first week it goes to
<v Speaker 1>number eight, the second week it goes to This second
<v Speaker 1>week his number one. People were ready for bonjob.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They had released Bad Medicine as a single about
<v Speaker 2>two weeks before the album came out. They did a
<v Speaker 2>good job, you know, talking about what do you follow
<v Speaker 2>slippery when wet with right? Right. They did a good
<v Speaker 2>job of doing it quickly too. Yes, you know my
<v Speaker 2>complaint with Bad versus Thriller is that it was five
<v Speaker 2>years later they went back into the studio with Bruce
<v Speaker 2>Fairbairn and back to Vancouver, Yeah, back to Yeah, back
<v Speaker 2>to Canada, back to the same recording studio and looked
<v Speaker 2>to create the magic again.
<v Speaker 1>They came up, like you said, seventeen original demos and
<v Speaker 1>turns out they didn't really like any amb they were
<v Speaker 1>trying too hard. Yeah, but the second batch produced Born
<v Speaker 1>to Be My Baby and Bad Medicine. That is a start.
<v Speaker 1>That's a good start, right for sure. Okay, I don't
<v Speaker 1>know if you know this or not, but did you
<v Speaker 1>know New Jersey is the first American album officially released
<v Speaker 1>in the USSR. No, yeah, how about that? But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>So they had all these songs that they wanted to
<v Speaker 1>put out and kind of like Princess Simon the Times album,
<v Speaker 1>they had all these songs that they thought were good.
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do a double album.
<v Speaker 1>Let's do a double album. And again the record company's like, no, no,
<v Speaker 1>it's too expensive. Kids won't buy it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's too much.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they cut it down to a single album.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this. There's a couple
<v Speaker 1>of working titles for this album, right, Okay, one of them,
<v Speaker 1>I like, one of them is terrible.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Son of a Beach, Sons of Beaches, Sons of Beaches,
<v Speaker 2>which comes from the song ninety nine in the Shade, right, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>Sons of Beaches.
<v Speaker 1>It kind of has that naughty word play, that slippery
<v Speaker 1>and what did Okay, But the other title was sixty
<v Speaker 1>eight and I'll Owe you one, Oh My, that that's
<v Speaker 1>it's like a title that Bill and Ted would name
<v Speaker 1>the first Wild Stallions.
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, that's awesome.
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, they settled on New Jersey. New Jersey, I
<v Speaker 1>guess is more of an attitude rather than a place.
<v Speaker 1>Not a lot of people brag about being from New Jersey, right,
<v Speaker 1>all right, So were ready to get into the track listing.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's go, all right.
<v Speaker 1>The first song on the album lay your Hands on It.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So they wrote this song in nineteen eighty eight. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>We talked last year last season about two of the
<v Speaker 2>best albums from nineteen eighty seven, four of them actually,
<v Speaker 2>but one of them was George Michael's Faith. Right when
<v Speaker 2>the organ comes in on this, I could not help
<v Speaker 2>but think of Faith. Yeah, and then he's got preacher
<v Speaker 2>and teacher in there. Just I'm just like, I really
<v Speaker 2>feel like they might have been listened to some George
<v Speaker 2>Michael albums before the end. Why wouldn't you Why wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>you if you are, if you are a hard rock
<v Speaker 2>band looking for poppy kind of hooks, why wouldn't you
<v Speaker 2>go listen to the biggest selling album of nineteen eighty seven.
<v Speaker 1>That's true, That's true.
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, I think that they definitely coty this.
<v Speaker 2>And I read something actually today from it seems like
<v Speaker 2>it was maybe Ritchie sand Borer's ex girlfriend or something
<v Speaker 2>like that that said that they would just sit on
<v Speaker 2>a stack of tapes, listen to the tapes, try to
<v Speaker 2>play it, and try to steal whatever they could from
<v Speaker 2>those tapes to put in their music. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>The great thing to me about lay your hands on Me.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's similar we talked about last week Let
<v Speaker 1>It Rock to sort of get you ready for the
<v Speaker 1>concert and get you ready for the album and get
<v Speaker 1>you prepared for what's coming. And that slow drum beat,
<v Speaker 1>that doom doom, doom doom. But the song that most
<v Speaker 1>reminds me of is Let's Go Crazy About Prince. You
<v Speaker 1>have the organ yep, And it's almost an invitation to church. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>it's like the Church of bon Jovi. Yeah, you actually
<v Speaker 1>have female backing singers.
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Of course this song is phenomenal. Yes, and the
<v Speaker 2>layer hands on Me definitely has that religious like faith
<v Speaker 2>healing kind of emotion going on hands on. This was
<v Speaker 2>the third song of the eighties called lay your Hands
<v Speaker 2>on Me. So in nineteen eighty two Peter Gabriel had
<v Speaker 2>a song called lay Your Hands on Me, and in
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty five The Thompson Twins has a song called
<v Speaker 2>your Hands On Me. They actually asked the Tom Bailey
<v Speaker 2>of the Thompson Twins about what he thought about bon
<v Speaker 2>Jovi's version. He's like, I don't think I've heard that.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, give me a break. While they're working
<v Speaker 1>on New Jersey, a couple of buddies, including director Wayne Eisham, right,
<v Speaker 1>we talked about him last week. Video, the guy who
<v Speaker 1>did all the videos encouraged Bonjovi to write this big,
<v Speaker 1>grandiose concert pleaser. Write something really big that we can
<v Speaker 1>put on a video. They'll be awesome. And with the
<v Speaker 1>encouragement of Wayne Eisham, they said, man, we got to
<v Speaker 1>write some freaking blow the doors off song. And lay
<v Speaker 1>your Hands on Me was their result on that. Have
<v Speaker 1>you heard the Dolly Parton version of lay Your Hands
<v Speaker 1>on Me.
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what I've heard it, but I don't
<v Speaker 2>think you can hear it enough.
<v Speaker 1>Let's listen to it. Okay, So I think this song
<v Speaker 1>is really interesting. She of course, Dolly is Queen of country,
<v Speaker 1>and she loved the song and she actually thought to herself,
<v Speaker 1>she grew up in the Pentecostal Church and thought, this
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a church song.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do. The Pentecostal Church does that faith healing stuff.
<v Speaker 1>They do. And so she contacted Richie and John has said,
<v Speaker 1>can I change the lyrics just a little bit to
<v Speaker 1>be become a religious song?
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Huh?
<v Speaker 1>And they're like Dolly Parton, heck, yeah you can.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So that's why the lyrics are changing the song, but
<v Speaker 1>it's still lay your Hands on Me classic. Okay. I
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the video.
<v Speaker 2>For a second. Okay, So when you got a formula
<v Speaker 2>at work, why don't you stick with that? I mean,
<v Speaker 2>does Bonjo of you have any songs that doesn't have
<v Speaker 2>them doing some concert footage.
<v Speaker 1>In the No? No, But I think they took it
<v Speaker 1>up a level for these videos. Yeah, okay. Yeah, So
<v Speaker 1>this song reached number seven in August of eighty nine.
<v Speaker 1>For me, this is the biggest of the biggest top down,
<v Speaker 1>turn it up summer songs. Okay, I mean just pulling
<v Speaker 1>up to a stoplight thumping lay your Hands on Me
<v Speaker 1>the car next she was gonna be like, yeah, my
<v Speaker 1>job right. But the video, so the video was shot
<v Speaker 1>in Tacoma, Washington and Portland, Oregon. Okay, you have the
<v Speaker 1>awesome entrance where they're underneath the stage when lay your
<v Speaker 1>Hands on Me hits, they like jet up through the
<v Speaker 1>floor and the pyrotechnics go crazy.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>Also in this video you see the big ramp where
<v Speaker 1>they can run and be like the people in the
<v Speaker 1>back can have front row seats because they're up and
<v Speaker 1>they're walking all over the place and from the I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what they call it. That that landing, that
<v Speaker 1>platform that they've got set up John is he's cut
<v Speaker 1>the band out and it's just the people singing the
<v Speaker 1>chorus of lay Your Hands on Me, and then it
<v Speaker 1>comes back in full floors. Video is great, love it.
<v Speaker 1>I want to make mention one other thing in this video.
<v Speaker 1>He's wearing this weird jacket and the only reason I
<v Speaker 1>know this is because he mentioned it in the concert
<v Speaker 1>that I saw until Soo I go home at nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighty year. This jacket that he wore in this video.
<v Speaker 1>Kids had thrown a bunch of jackets and clothing and
<v Speaker 1>patches and stuff on stage over the years. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>he took those, all those patches and stuff and he
<v Speaker 1>put him on one big jacket.
<v Speaker 2>Made his big patch. Check. Yep, that's awesome. I had
<v Speaker 2>no idea that was from fans. Yep.
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic, lay your hands on Me, awesome kickoff song, perfect,
<v Speaker 1>top down, turn it up, love it, love it Okay.
<v Speaker 1>The next song on the album song number two, the
<v Speaker 1>opening single, Bad Medicine.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>This song was released September the third, nineteen eighty eight.
<v Speaker 1>It hit number one in the US November nineteenth, nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight, so on that day it edged out wild
<v Speaker 1>West by the Escape Club.
<v Speaker 2>I Remember This.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, spent twenty weeks on the chart and was featured
<v Speaker 1>in the two thousand and one film Jane Simon Bob
<v Speaker 1>Straight Back Nice.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. This one is such a phenomenal song, and it's
<v Speaker 2>one of those that is timeless. I mean, you hear
<v Speaker 2>this today and you're like, this is still fantastic. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>It has lost nothing with age.
<v Speaker 1>It starts right off with a boom like that organ
<v Speaker 1>dun dund dun dun dunt.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the video on this one is very cool
<v Speaker 2>and a little bit different.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So what they did was they said we're gonna we're
<v Speaker 2>gonna try something new. They gave cameras out to their fans,
<v Speaker 2>like I think it was like two hundred and fifty
<v Speaker 2>different people got cameras and they said, Okay, whatever you do,
<v Speaker 2>we will keep the best of it, and for the
<v Speaker 2>ten bests of the best, you get to come on
<v Speaker 2>the road with us and go on tour with us.
<v Speaker 2>And it sounded like this awesome thing until like people
<v Speaker 2>were so intent on being the best that they were
<v Speaker 2>like bringing in assistance and tripods and lighting. Like they
<v Speaker 2>really made a production out of it, and so it's
<v Speaker 2>not as amateur as they had wanted, but they really
<v Speaker 2>did ended up with some new It was new and
<v Speaker 2>exciting kind of thing for then.
<v Speaker 1>You know, at the beginning of the video, it's Sam
<v Speaker 1>Kennison's like, this is gonna be the same crappy video
<v Speaker 1>that we see all the time on EMTV. Is that
<v Speaker 1>good enough for us? No? And let's grab the cameras
<v Speaker 1>and Sam Kennison going going crazy. It's a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when it's showing Sam Kennison, Yeah, the kid that's
<v Speaker 2>next to him wearing the blue cutoff T shirt. Yeah
<v Speaker 2>that's bon Jovi's brother.
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's Matt Okay, Yeah, that's cool. Love this song.
<v Speaker 2>So it's got this fantastic part where he seems to
<v Speaker 2>be done. He's he's worn out there. It's like they're
<v Speaker 2>taking him off stage and then he's like, no, I
<v Speaker 2>can't do it, I gotta go back. It's so James Brown,
<v Speaker 2>it's so the Preacher from Coming to America. It's spot
<v Speaker 2>on awesome. I love it.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not done one more time with feeling.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So the lyrics of the song are nicely comparing being
<v Speaker 2>addicted to a drug.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 2>Is it compared to being addicted to a lady or you.
<v Speaker 1>Know whatever your love is like drugs?
<v Speaker 2>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Desmond Child, Yeah, co wrote this song exactly. I
<v Speaker 1>need a respirator because I'm running out of breath. It's
<v Speaker 1>almost like a rap.
<v Speaker 2>It's really it is a very rhythmic lyric. That is,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it sticks in your head. It's great, it
<v Speaker 2>is it's it's fantastic. Yeah, that's why it's timeless.
<v Speaker 1>I think I just talked to my buddy Doug Gray
<v Speaker 1>here tonight. Shout out to my buddy Doug Gray for
<v Speaker 1>end of the show.
<v Speaker 2>Hey Doug.
<v Speaker 1>He said that for his basketball team in high school,
<v Speaker 1>their shirts said bad Medicine for the conference or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>So it it invaded pop culture a little bit. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is a great story from Richie Sambora. Okay, so
<v Speaker 1>he was talking about writing this song. He said they
<v Speaker 1>were in Japan doing a commercial for Fuji tape, right,
<v Speaker 1>and then whatever they were doing, they were standing in water,
<v Speaker 1>and Richie had been in this terrible relationship and while
<v Speaker 1>they're shooting this commercial, he walked up to John and
<v Speaker 1>just said, this is like bad medicine, man, And it
<v Speaker 1>was just one of those things that came into his head.
<v Speaker 1>And and John's like, yeah, we're gonna have to write
<v Speaker 1>that one down because that sounds really good.
<v Speaker 2>Fine, that's great. So there you go.
<v Speaker 1>Are we done with bad Medicine? One months down? Yes,
<v Speaker 1>bad Medicine. Great song. Two songs in.
<v Speaker 2>You're already You've got me, You've got Me, two songs.
<v Speaker 1>In We're killing it already.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like I've already had a good purchase with buying
<v Speaker 2>this cassette tape.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, all right. Song number three, This song is
<v Speaker 1>called Born to Be My Baby.
<v Speaker 2>I love the beginning of this. It's got a great
<v Speaker 2>jump in your face feel to it. Then when he
<v Speaker 2>starts singing the lyrics, it's got a very eleanor Rigby
<v Speaker 2>kind of strings behind the lyrics. Then the lyrics are
<v Speaker 2>very much Tommy and Gina from Living on a Prayer,
<v Speaker 2>only it's from Tommy's perspective, you know, it's just fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>And then the chorus of the songs, it may be
<v Speaker 2>the most perfectly written chorus I've ever heard. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>you could conceivably you know, this is almost like a
<v Speaker 2>lullaby to your loved one at night. You were born
<v Speaker 2>to be my baby. I was made to be your man.
<v Speaker 2>We've got something to believe in, even if we don't
<v Speaker 2>know where we stand. Only God would know the reason.
<v Speaker 2>But I guess he must have had a plan, because
<v Speaker 2>you're born to be my baby and I was made
<v Speaker 2>to be your man. It's like Doctor SEUs, it is
<v Speaker 2>but magical.
<v Speaker 1>The chorus is fantastic. Yeah, it's like a warm Snickers bar.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it just melts together so well.
<v Speaker 2>And you can't. I mean, you hear it one time
<v Speaker 2>and you've got it like you're you will be singing
<v Speaker 2>that chorus along with him by the time the song
<v Speaker 2>is over. First time you hear.
<v Speaker 1>And you're absolutely right. Thematically, it's very similar to living
<v Speaker 1>on a prayer. It's the working man and we're doing
<v Speaker 1>what we can and take my hand, We'll make it.
<v Speaker 2>I swear. I'm genuinely surprised that this was not a
<v Speaker 2>bigger hit than it was.
<v Speaker 1>It reached number three.
<v Speaker 2>Right, which is good, it's great, but it should have
<v Speaker 2>been number one and number one for a while. So
<v Speaker 2>they originally said that this song was supposed to be
<v Speaker 2>an acoustic song. It wasn't as poppy and.
<v Speaker 1>Let's see, Okay, I want to talk about that for
<v Speaker 1>a second. Okay, the original demo. You can actually listen
<v Speaker 1>to that demo of the song. It's full on acoustic,
<v Speaker 1>played very softly, very tender, and John feels strongly that
<v Speaker 1>if they had left it that same way, it would
<v Speaker 1>have been a number one hit.
<v Speaker 2>Yephas less bless you want more Nebo because of something
<v Speaker 2>of the.
<v Speaker 1>Demon And I listened to it and it's still that
<v Speaker 1>same magical, beautiful song, but it's not that oh, that
<v Speaker 1>pomp and rocker.
<v Speaker 2>That it's certain. I mean, we're obviously married to what
<v Speaker 2>we have the nostalgia with, right, there's no question about it.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think that that demo probably would have
<v Speaker 2>been would have done it justice. I think that if
<v Speaker 2>you had, if you had the twelve string that they
<v Speaker 2>used from One and Dead or Alive, sure, and you
<v Speaker 2>had a more full sound behind those those lyrics, that
<v Speaker 2>it definitely because it just has that kind of lullaby
<v Speaker 2>feel to it, and I could I could definitely see
<v Speaker 2>it being I mean, I'd have been asking the girls
<v Speaker 2>to slow dance on this song if it had been
<v Speaker 2>one of those acoustic numbers. It was Bruce Fairbain who
<v Speaker 2>who convinced them to switch it over to be more
<v Speaker 2>hard hitting.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Bruce Fairbain. The song that kept this out
<v Speaker 1>of the number one spot. Yeah, straight up by Paula
<v Speaker 1>abdul Well. That was a pretty big, one, pretty iconic song.
<v Speaker 1>Nine eighty eight yep, Okay, I want to talk about
<v Speaker 1>the video. For whatever reason, these videos hit me a
<v Speaker 1>lot stronger than the slippery one White videos did.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's filming them. It's in black and white.
<v Speaker 1>They're in the studio and you can actually hear you
<v Speaker 1>hear different pieces of the song. For instance, you see
<v Speaker 1>Richie playing the guitar, so it's more of the guitar sound.
<v Speaker 1>Then you see Tico and he's banging the drums, and
<v Speaker 1>then there's a it's kind of a breakdown in the
<v Speaker 1>middle of it, and John and Richie are like, what
<v Speaker 1>do you think, No, I don't like it. Let's do
<v Speaker 1>it again. And when they do that, then it comes
<v Speaker 1>the full version, full on and it sounds fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have a part in the video o where
<v Speaker 2>like all the guys are singing together right like they're
<v Speaker 2>they're harmonizing.
<v Speaker 1>They're all harmonizing around the microphone.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fantastic, fantastic.
<v Speaker 1>A couple of things to note on the video. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>there's a one part in the video where John is
<v Speaker 1>given a fair hug to a woman that is Dorothea.
<v Speaker 1>That's the woman that became his wife. Yeah, they're still
<v Speaker 1>married too.
<v Speaker 2>They get married in eighty nine.
<v Speaker 1>I think they eloped.
<v Speaker 2>In They went to Vegas, yep, and didn't tell anybody.
<v Speaker 1>Including their band or the managers or their parents.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think literally no one was happy with them.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I heard that too. One other thing to mention,
<v Speaker 1>the very last scene in the video. Yeah, they all
<v Speaker 1>kind of stand on this table and they kind of
<v Speaker 1>do this football huddle and they're all kind of squealing.
<v Speaker 1>They could tell they're very happy. Yeah, that is the
<v Speaker 1>camera captured the moment of the band when they learned
<v Speaker 1>that their album was number one.
<v Speaker 2>Nice.
<v Speaker 1>So that's great in the Born to Be My Baby video.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, all right, ready.
<v Speaker 1>We are done with Born to Be My Baby. Let's
<v Speaker 1>move on to the next song. It's called Living in set.
<v Speaker 2>Less Breach Once again. I gotta say, I think they're
<v Speaker 2>a listen to.
<v Speaker 1>George Mine think so this is one more try.
<v Speaker 2>It's no, it's Father Figure. I mean it's totally it's
<v Speaker 2>so similar to Father Figure. Okay, I can hear him
<v Speaker 2>say put your tiny hand in mind in the song.
<v Speaker 2>I just I can almost hear him say that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that that's probably true. This song was
<v Speaker 1>released October seventh, and nineteen eighty nine. This was the
<v Speaker 1>fifth single. I find it interesting that they're still releasing
<v Speaker 1>songs a year after the release of the album. There's
<v Speaker 1>squeeze this for all it's worth. I'm gonna go to
<v Speaker 1>bat for this song. I love this song. It's beautiful.
<v Speaker 1>It's not one of the strongest songs on the album.
<v Speaker 1>In fact, there's other songs that I would have released
<v Speaker 1>before this as a single, but I love it. It
<v Speaker 1>has that same never say goodbye, I don't care what
<v Speaker 1>anybody says. I love you and we're gonna make this work,
<v Speaker 1>that youthful passion that high schoolers feel when they're at
<v Speaker 1>the problem. I'm gonna run away and marry this person.
<v Speaker 2>Right, And that's kind of what the video does too, right,
<v Speaker 2>isn't it. This is one of the rare bon Jovi
<v Speaker 2>videos that has it like a storyline beyond them in
<v Speaker 2>concert or in the studio.
<v Speaker 1>It's a couple of young people sneaking around at a
<v Speaker 1>hotel and their parents are very upset catching them and slapping. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I'd slapped anybody, but I would
<v Speaker 2>have been upset in that same situation, right.
<v Speaker 1>My position has changed over the years on the.
<v Speaker 2>Leave them Alone, Me Alone? Yeah, shut up your stupid kid.
<v Speaker 1>This was the fifth song to reach the top ten.
<v Speaker 1>That's the first time that a hard rock band had
<v Speaker 1>ever achieved that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this album had more top ten hits than any
<v Speaker 2>other glam rock album in history.
<v Speaker 1>The orchestra in the background of this song gives it
<v Speaker 1>a breadth that I love. It's youthful passion.
<v Speaker 2>I love it.
<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nostalgia again, I know it hits you right at
<v Speaker 2>that time too, right, Yeah for sure.
<v Speaker 1>I mean eighty eight you were fifteen, eighty nine, sixteen.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're right there feeling those crazy hormonal emotions
<v Speaker 2>for some girl out there for several I don't.
<v Speaker 1>Know if I'm capable of divorcing the nostalgia from this album.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just doing the best.
<v Speaker 2>I can before in case you've missed it, those folks
<v Speaker 2>out there listening in Jason is a pop culture savant.
<v Speaker 2>If he hears the music, he can tell me band name,
<v Speaker 2>song name, and year it came out, and probably month
<v Speaker 2>that was most popular, if it was if it had
<v Speaker 2>some some popularity to it. But I think that always
<v Speaker 2>goes to he has it attached in his head to
<v Speaker 2>some event in his life that he can remember, and
<v Speaker 2>so that'd being the case, I can see how you
<v Speaker 2>would have a hard time.
<v Speaker 1>I'm super nostalgic yeah, but that's why we're here, man,
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, that's why I love doing this.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>All right, last song on side one, song called Blood
<v Speaker 1>on Blood.
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of nostalgia, here you go. This is it, right.
<v Speaker 2>This is the song about when you're a kid and
<v Speaker 2>you become blood brothers with your best friends. Yeah. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I can still remember when I was just a kid,
<v Speaker 2>when friends were friends forever and what you said was
<v Speaker 2>what you did.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. This song is about friendship and loyalty and being
<v Speaker 1>able to depend on somebody and count on them when
<v Speaker 1>you need them. It's all about those teenage relationships right right.
<v Speaker 2>And it's a great the music that they have going
<v Speaker 2>along with this, It just feels right, It feels perfect
<v Speaker 2>for that kind of idea. It's really a great song.
<v Speaker 2>It's not one of the most popular songs on the album,
<v Speaker 2>but it's a solid It is a solid mixture of
<v Speaker 2>lyrics and music for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. At this time, the band was unified and loved
<v Speaker 1>each other and were making these incredible songs and doing
<v Speaker 1>these incredible concerts and they were in sync. So this
<v Speaker 1>song was great in concert. Yeah, because you believe they
<v Speaker 1>were a brotherhood. By extension, the fans were sort of
<v Speaker 1>in that family.
<v Speaker 2>I think that's important that you've got to the fans
<v Speaker 2>have got to feel that camaraderie among the band to
<v Speaker 2>really buy in the way that they want them to.
<v Speaker 2>And I think that, you know, I could call I
<v Speaker 2>think they call themselves the New Jersey Syndicate. Yeah, but
<v Speaker 2>they had a really strong, you know, band of brothers
<v Speaker 2>type of relationship until they had been on the road
<v Speaker 2>for something like seven years straight. They toured constantly with
<v Speaker 2>Slippery when Wet, toured constantly with New Jersey, and by
<v Speaker 2>the time they were done touring New Jersey, they all
<v Speaker 2>got on a plane, a different plane and all went
<v Speaker 2>to different places and didn't say goodbye. Yeah, never said goodbye.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's said they were it was time for
<v Speaker 2>them to be done for a little while. Yeah, it was.
<v Speaker 2>It was a tough little spot right after this album.
<v Speaker 1>So, yep, for sure. Did you know the Blood on
<v Speaker 1>Blood was inspired by the movie stand By Me? No, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Rob Rynders, stand by Me because that.
<v Speaker 2>Movie is about yeah, yeah, I mean friendship and yeah
<v Speaker 2>it's yeah kids doing in eighty six if that came out, yep, right,
<v Speaker 2>oh wow, that's fantastic. Yeah, that because Honestly, that's the
<v Speaker 2>movie when my friends from that age, when we would
<v Speaker 2>talk about how close we were, we would compare ourselves
<v Speaker 2>to stand by me. Yeah, there is definitely a big,
<v Speaker 2>big nostalgia associated with that movie, and this song captures
<v Speaker 2>it well.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lyric that says, through the years and
<v Speaker 1>miles between us, it's been a long and lonely ride,
<v Speaker 1>but if I got that call in the dead of
<v Speaker 1>the night, I'd be right by your side. Blood on Blood. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's great stuff. Yeah, there's only one lyric that kind
<v Speaker 1>of bothers me in this song. Yeah, it says Danny
<v Speaker 1>knew this white trash girl. Oh yeah, we each threw
<v Speaker 1>in a ten.
<v Speaker 2>She took us to this cheap hotel and turned to sentiment.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, thirty dollars.
<v Speaker 2>Make you holler because I get paid to do the wild.
<v Speaker 1>Just such a great emotional Once again, I'm gushing. I'm
<v Speaker 1>trying not to. I love it song. Yeah, all right,
<v Speaker 1>hit stop on your tape player, kick it out, flip
<v Speaker 1>it over side to New Jersey.
<v Speaker 2>The name of this song is homebound Train.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, homemound train, and you've got the you've got some
<v Speaker 1>of the train sound effects to start this off, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and then it blows in full on rocker. Like we
<v Speaker 1>said last week, it's like raise your hands on the
<v Speaker 1>first song of side two of Slippery when wet. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's the hardest rocking song on the album.
<v Speaker 2>Well, and it does that. You know. I talked to
<v Speaker 2>you before about Crossroads. One of the ideas and Crossroads
<v Speaker 2>is you've got to be able to imitate a train.
<v Speaker 2>There's just something about trains and rock and roll and
<v Speaker 2>the blues that you've got to be able to do it.
<v Speaker 2>And they've got a sound effect at the beginning. It
<v Speaker 2>has a trained sound within that guitar that down is
<v Speaker 2>very much a train rhythmic style of sound. And then,
<v Speaker 2>of course, to go along with the crossroads theme, you've
<v Speaker 2>got When I was just a boy, the devil took
<v Speaker 2>my hand, so.
<v Speaker 1>It's very cross I'm wondering. In the middle of this song,
<v Speaker 1>you have the harmonica and you have the dueling organ
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's very different from most Bonchovi songs.
<v Speaker 2>It's far more blues based, yep.
<v Speaker 1>And then you have that great guitar solo so you
<v Speaker 1>can see Aero Smith and Jeff Beck. You've got that
<v Speaker 1>slide guitar. Maybe some led Zeppelin, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>It's I definitely felt led Zeppelin when I was listening
<v Speaker 2>to it today, kind of like led Zeppelin Black Crows.
<v Speaker 2>Nice little mix up there. Yeah, it's good, really good.
<v Speaker 1>I love the part the song where John at the
<v Speaker 1>top of his range screams woo like like a train,
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the sound of a train. Yeah, all right,
<v Speaker 1>it's a great song. I enjoy it. I'm loving it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exciting, feel good song.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Okay, next song it's called Wild is the Wind.
<v Speaker 2>I just gotta say I am a sucker for the
<v Speaker 2>Spanish style guitar. I love, love, love it. Talked about
<v Speaker 2>first song that bon Jovie learned. First song that I
<v Speaker 2>learned was House of the Rising Sun. It has a
<v Speaker 2>very Spanish guitar kind of cord progression, and this beginning
<v Speaker 2>is awesome. I love it, and I love the transition
<v Speaker 2>that they make. I love the music that is behind
<v Speaker 2>the lyrics and the song, and I love the lyrics
<v Speaker 2>to the song men. But for some reason, to me,
<v Speaker 2>the lyrics and this and the music don't seem like
<v Speaker 2>they belong together. I don't know what it is. I
<v Speaker 2>can't put my finger on it. It just doesn't sound
<v Speaker 2>quite right. It doesn't sound quite like they fit. And
<v Speaker 2>so I wanted to love the song because I loved
<v Speaker 2>all of the components, but it was one that I
<v Speaker 2>just kind of left me going up that wasn't just
<v Speaker 2>wasn't quite right. Okay.
<v Speaker 1>To me, this song feels like a lot of the
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's on the Young Guns two soundtrack that we
<v Speaker 1>get a couple of years later. It has that sort
<v Speaker 1>of Western maybe Southwest cowboy type of feel. The Spanish
<v Speaker 1>guitar definitely has that feel to it. Okay. So here's
<v Speaker 1>the story with this song. When they got done with
<v Speaker 1>their thirty demos, Bruce Fairbairn got all the teenagers he knew,
<v Speaker 1>and babysitters and friends and friends of kids and kids
<v Speaker 1>friend they put together their little pizza parlor jury. And
<v Speaker 1>when they did it, John asked everyone listening, say, all right,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna listen to these songs. I want you to
<v Speaker 1>rank them. Which ones you think are the best?
<v Speaker 2>Okay?
<v Speaker 1>You know what got number one, Born to Be My Baby?
<v Speaker 1>You know what got number two Stick to Your Guns,
<v Speaker 1>which we'll talk about here in a second, okay, And
<v Speaker 1>number three was Wild is the Wind? Wow, and John
<v Speaker 1>was like Wow, he was really blown away. He's like,
<v Speaker 1>people really like those songs. And John was like, I
<v Speaker 1>didn't think they were going to make the album. Wild
<v Speaker 1>is the Wind is now on the album because of
<v Speaker 1>that little mini pizza parlor jury.
<v Speaker 2>Wow. It's kind of one of those things that I
<v Speaker 2>don't want to have not heard it. Yeah, it just
<v Speaker 2>I just I feel like it just didn't fit together.
<v Speaker 1>Like I wanted it to. I still love it, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Yeah, Okay, we're done with this one.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right.
<v Speaker 1>Next song is a song called Ride Cowboy, Ride, Devel, Ride.
<v Speaker 2>Badgy or the sound.
<v Speaker 1>On the Cuss Memory Round.
<v Speaker 2>So this beginning with the sound of a record like
<v Speaker 2>you hear the scratch of the record as the as
<v Speaker 2>the needle drops right and you've got that chord at
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. I immediately thought of Pink Floyd Wish You
<v Speaker 2>Were Here, because that's basically the same beginning you've got
<v Speaker 2>that it changes, it's a totally different sounding song past
<v Speaker 2>that first chord, but the record needle and the strum
<v Speaker 2>of the guitar where it sounds like it's not a
<v Speaker 2>good recording and it's off in the distance. That is
<v Speaker 2>straight out of Wish you Were Here.
<v Speaker 1>I can see where you feel that way, Yeah for sure.
<v Speaker 1>So that was recorded in mono sound. This is not
<v Speaker 1>really a song. I mean, it's just.
<v Speaker 2>Kind of an intro.
<v Speaker 1>I would call it an intro to Stick to your Guns.
<v Speaker 2>Right, which is again the same kind of thing. Once
<v Speaker 2>Wish you Were Here picks up, it becomes a full
<v Speaker 2>fledged song. It's not that mono distant sound that this
<v Speaker 2>song has, but it's still good. I still like it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's good. Apparently this was the original intention was
<v Speaker 1>for it to be a full song, but they just
<v Speaker 1>could never finish it, and so they had this kind
<v Speaker 1>of course that they liked Ride Cowboy Ride. They just
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a song with it, but they thought it
<v Speaker 1>was good enough to stick on the album as an
<v Speaker 1>intro to Stick to your Guns.
<v Speaker 2>So there's a song called Ride, Sally Ride by Al Greene.
<v Speaker 1>And everybody would say.
<v Speaker 2>One of those tapes that they pulled out whenever they're
<v Speaker 2>in their writing.
<v Speaker 1>Sessions, Sally Ride. That sounds dead on.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so do you know who is credited as writing
<v Speaker 1>the song?
<v Speaker 2>Oh? It is this the one that's Captain Kidd.
<v Speaker 1>Captain Kidd and the King of Swing, which.
<v Speaker 2>Are the code names the nicknames for bon Jovi and
<v Speaker 2>Richie Simbora.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, flashback to last week's episode, the lyrics of Let
<v Speaker 1>It Rock, mention, the King of Swing and the Captain
<v Speaker 1>kidd All. Right, now we're onto a song called stick
<v Speaker 1>to Your Guns.
<v Speaker 2>So they really are hitting the cowboy thing on this
<v Speaker 2>side of the tape. Yeah, for sure, very western in
<v Speaker 2>there's I think they're trying to capture that lightning in
<v Speaker 2>a bottle from one to Dead or Alive.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely agree with you.
<v Speaker 2>And I gotta say I love this song. I don't
<v Speaker 2>love it like I love one of Dead or Alive,
<v Speaker 2>but this is still a really good song, fantastic song.
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised this was not a single, not a hit.
<v Speaker 2>It is single worthy and had the radio have been
<v Speaker 2>blasting it all the time when I was a kid,
<v Speaker 2>I probably would have fallen in love with it.
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. This is single worthy. This would have
<v Speaker 1>been a big hit with a big concert and video.
<v Speaker 1>The interesting line in this is when you spit, you
<v Speaker 1>better mean it. Yeah, definitely. This is this album's wanted
<v Speaker 1>Dead or Alive or blasel Gory. Not quite there, but
<v Speaker 1>it was the attempt Yeah, I would call this one
<v Speaker 1>of my most favorite under the radar Bonjovi songs for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Love it, love it. Like we said earlier, this song
<v Speaker 1>was one of those songs that may not have made
<v Speaker 1>the cut of the album if it hadn't been for
<v Speaker 1>or the makeshift pizza parlor jury that Bruce Fairburn organized.
<v Speaker 1>Right stick to your Guns. Great song. Next song, I'll
<v Speaker 1>be there for You all right. This song was released
<v Speaker 1>April fourth of eighty nine and it hit number one
<v Speaker 1>May thirteenth of eighty nine.
<v Speaker 2>So we've got this interesting beginning where, unlike the blues
<v Speaker 2>and cowboy songs, we've got a sitar, very South Asia
<v Speaker 2>sound going on at the beginning of the song. But
<v Speaker 2>that's over pretty quickly and we jump right back into
<v Speaker 2>a very slow blues song and I love it.
<v Speaker 1>It takes a little while for this song to build
<v Speaker 1>after the guitar solo, it's full on, great power.
<v Speaker 2>Ballad, fantastic lyrics. Again, I'll be there for you. These
<v Speaker 2>five were I swear to you when you breathe, I
<v Speaker 2>want to be the air for you. I'll be there
<v Speaker 2>for you. Yeah, it's so good. Steal the sun from
<v Speaker 2>the sky.
<v Speaker 1>For you in order to fully appreciate this song. I
<v Speaker 1>think you have to watch the video. So you have
<v Speaker 1>the guys on stage kind of like living on a prayer.
<v Speaker 1>It's pre concert, and then it kind of moves into
<v Speaker 1>concert footage of Wembley Stadium and it's packed and people
<v Speaker 1>are crammed in there and that their height of popularity.
<v Speaker 1>And at the key change, once again, we have the
<v Speaker 1>standard bon Jovi massive key change in this song. Right,
<v Speaker 1>there's a girl who's weeping, like crying because she's seen
<v Speaker 1>bon Jovi and it's it's kind of a touching moment
<v Speaker 1>in the video and I'm a sucker for that. But
<v Speaker 1>it looks it just looks awesome.
<v Speaker 2>It's a perfectly put together song in all ways. I
<v Speaker 2>cannot there's no fault I can find with this song.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this song is this album's never Say Goodbye. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this one went on a few mixtapes as.
<v Speaker 2>Well, the Makeout mixtape make.
<v Speaker 1>This One slid over to the eighty nine version, but yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you're on the right track. That brings us to the
<v Speaker 1>song ninety nine In the shade.
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, we start playing a Beach Boys album. Just now,
<v Speaker 2>what's going on here? What's this chorus? What what's this
<v Speaker 2>harmony going on here? Oh okay, here we go. Here's
<v Speaker 2>bon Jovi. Sorry, burning up with fever. Yeah, that's standard
<v Speaker 2>bon Jovi. Oh wait, Jina about?
<v Speaker 1>I mean Jina, are about? I mean Gena. I'm living
<v Speaker 1>on a prayer. Yes, they actually make a reappearance in
<v Speaker 1>this song, and then later again as we said, and
<v Speaker 1>that's my life.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So this one's about going on with the buddies.
<v Speaker 2>This is Tommy can come as long as Gina says,
<v Speaker 2>it's all right.
<v Speaker 1>This is about hanging out with your buds, cruising down
<v Speaker 1>to the beach and those sort of endless summer nights
<v Speaker 1>of hanging out and having fun. Tell me what's not
<v Speaker 1>appealing about this song?
<v Speaker 2>I love it.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's all about having summer nights, endless
<v Speaker 1>summer nights. We gotta cover Richard Marks one of these days.
<v Speaker 2>I was really thinking about Greece. But okay, sure, this
<v Speaker 2>is a fun one.
<v Speaker 1>This is one of the weaker tracks on the album,
<v Speaker 1>but it's still funnest.
<v Speaker 2>Oh I love this No, I love this song. It's great.
<v Speaker 2>This is another strong song compared to the other song
<v Speaker 2>for the album. No, it's not a chart topping hit.
<v Speaker 2>But it's still very very good. Still a great song.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fun. Nine and nine in the shade, not
<v Speaker 1>a skipper, lots of fun all right. That brings us
<v Speaker 1>to the last track on the album. This song is
<v Speaker 1>called Love for Sale hit me all right? What do
<v Speaker 1>you think?
<v Speaker 2>I freaking love it? Another train song. You get that
<v Speaker 2>awesome harmonica in there, pulling from the blues again, and
<v Speaker 2>then the lyrics that come in are just what you
<v Speaker 2>want them to be, right, Yeah, woke up wrote out
<v Speaker 2>of bit. I love it.
<v Speaker 1>It's fun, it's it's acoustic, it's bluesy.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's very much like they're in a jam session. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>like they're just, you know, let's just lay down something
<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a again and see where it goes.
<v Speaker 2>And they they had a nice little finish to this one.
<v Speaker 2>This one reminds me of the end of Back in Black,
<v Speaker 2>where they where they suddenly surprise you with it again.
<v Speaker 2>A completely different sounding song and a good I'm.
<v Speaker 1>Talking about rock and roll Lawn's solution. Yes, rock adam roll. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. I've listened to the demos, the extended
<v Speaker 1>version of New Jersey, and there are other songs that
<v Speaker 1>are better than love for Sale. That could have easily
<v Speaker 1>kicked it off, but I'm glad it made it. It's fun.
<v Speaker 1>You can tell they're having a good time recording this
<v Speaker 1>that John actually laughs while he's singing. Right, So I'm
<v Speaker 1>I think it's great. I love it. John says, I
<v Speaker 1>feel like a dog that's been kicked in the head,
<v Speaker 1>and Richie goes ouch. Yeah, it's fun.
<v Speaker 2>We've been living together three years, two hours, twenty minutes,
<v Speaker 2>maybe four hundred beers. You know that this is song
<v Speaker 2>about the band, right.
<v Speaker 1>This was the only song that was recorded in New Jersey.
<v Speaker 1>Everything else was recorded in Vancouver.
<v Speaker 2>Great end. It's a great end to the album.
<v Speaker 1>It's fun. It's not going to be a radio single,
<v Speaker 1>not probably a top one hundred hit, but it's still fun.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it is one of the I feel like
<v Speaker 2>there are some songs that they they're like, let's just
<v Speaker 2>do this for the fans, right, because if you love
<v Speaker 2>bon Jovi, you're gonna love listen to them do this
<v Speaker 2>little jam session.
<v Speaker 1>At this time, they really had the minus touch. They
<v Speaker 1>could have released anything and it would have been a hit.
<v Speaker 2>They made some that I mean, honestly, they had a
<v Speaker 2>lot of skeptics wondering if they could do what they
<v Speaker 2>did again, and they knocked it out of the park.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're moving into final judgment now.
<v Speaker 2>I think we can, don't you. Yeah, well, maybe maybe
<v Speaker 2>we have a story to tell though before we get
<v Speaker 2>to final judgment.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, we got two stories to tell.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So we talked about the Moscow Music Peace Festival.
<v Speaker 1>So the Moscow Peace Festival was how Doc McGee would
<v Speaker 1>have got off. He got Banjo, he got the Scorpions,
<v Speaker 1>he got Ozzie Osbourne, he got skid Row, you got Cinderella.
<v Speaker 1>He got all these guys together to go over to
<v Speaker 1>Moscow and play this music festival.
<v Speaker 2>Right, And the foundation that he put together to make
<v Speaker 2>a difference foundation was an anti drug foundation. And if
<v Speaker 2>you know the history of any of these bands, you
<v Speaker 2>gotta be going.
<v Speaker 1>Huh right, what right?
<v Speaker 2>What? Exqueeze me? I listened to Snake Sabos talk about
<v Speaker 2>the getting on the plane and he said, the only
<v Speaker 2>guys that were sober was Motley Crue. That's just that
<v Speaker 2>doesn't even make sense.
<v Speaker 1>It makes sense.
<v Speaker 2>He gets on the plane, He's like, how do they
<v Speaker 2>get all of this booze on the plane and of course,
<v Speaker 2>you know, this was just after Girls Girls Girls, and
<v Speaker 2>Nicky six dies twice and they finally were like, you good,
<v Speaker 2>get these guys into rehab and so they were actually clean.
<v Speaker 2>Everybody else was partying, yep, their butts off, And then
<v Speaker 2>there's this rumor room reminds you that the CIA might
<v Speaker 2>have been involved in this because of Doc McGee's criminal
<v Speaker 2>stuff and saw it as an opportunity to propagandize the
<v Speaker 2>Soviet Union. I mean, actually it was during this festival
<v Speaker 2>that the Scorpions wrote Wind of Change, which is about
<v Speaker 2>the changing perceptions that were going on in the Soviet
<v Speaker 2>Union at that time. And then literally the Berlin Wall
<v Speaker 2>comes down within a few months and the Soviet Union
<v Speaker 2>disbands dissolves within a few months. So who knows.
<v Speaker 1>If you want a really interesting podcast to listen to,
<v Speaker 1>go listen to Wind of Change. It's about the song
<v Speaker 1>Wind of Change by the Scorpions, but it revolves around
<v Speaker 1>the Moscow Piece Festival, so very interesting. After you get
<v Speaker 1>done listening to this one, go listen to that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>all right, So the Moscow Piece Festival was I believe
<v Speaker 1>August twelfth and thirteenth of nineteen eighty nine. Then just
<v Speaker 1>A few weeks later, on September the sixth, nineteen eighty nineties,
<v Speaker 1>John and Ritchie perform at the nineteen eighty nine MTV
<v Speaker 1>Music Awards and they come out with just their acoustic
<v Speaker 1>guitars and they knock out a version of Living on
<v Speaker 1>a Prayer and Wanted Dead or Alive. That absolutely blows
<v Speaker 1>people away this series.
<v Speaker 2>To each.
<v Speaker 1>Shot, no power technics, no big band, just two guys
<v Speaker 1>and two guitars, and that performance actually leads to MTV unpluked, right.
<v Speaker 1>People were really that performance.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then on September fourteenth, just one week later, I
<v Speaker 1>saw bon Jovi in Tulsa, Oklahoma with everybody in my
<v Speaker 1>high school and it was one of the greatest nights
<v Speaker 1>of my high school life.
<v Speaker 2>So while you were going through that experience, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's amazing that they went from Moscow Music
<v Speaker 2>Piece Festival within a few weeks to the MTV amazing
<v Speaker 2>performance that they had, and then a couple of weeks
<v Speaker 2>after that, they're in Tulsa, Oklahoma and you're watching them live.
<v Speaker 2>So that MTV Video Music Awards. I've said it before,
<v Speaker 2>Wanted Dead or Alive is the reason that I started
<v Speaker 2>playing guitar It was that version that made me go,
<v Speaker 2>I have to learn how to do what he's doing,
<v Speaker 2>and it was one of the once. I mean, that's
<v Speaker 2>not an easy beginning for a brand new guitarist to play.
<v Speaker 2>It took probably another year or two before I got there,
<v Speaker 2>but that was my objective, was I'm going to learn
<v Speaker 2>how to play just so that I can learn how
<v Speaker 2>to play Want a Dead or Alive?
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Yeah, kind of an impactful pocket in time
<v Speaker 1>for both you and I.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, crazy, isn't it incredible?
<v Speaker 1>All right? Let's talk final judgment, New Jersey versus Slippery
<v Speaker 1>When Wet You go first? All right. I love both
<v Speaker 1>of these albums. I've told you before. These are two
<v Speaker 1>of the four pillar albums in my life. I certainly
<v Speaker 1>don't see anything unseating them. It's New Jersey, it's Slippery
<v Speaker 1>when Wet, It's thriller, and it's hysteria for me. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>everybody else is a little bit different. But when I
<v Speaker 1>listen to all these songs for me, Slippery When Wet
<v Speaker 1>has songs like You Give Love a Bad Name, has
<v Speaker 1>songs like Living on a Prayer, which we said maybe
<v Speaker 1>the best song of the nineteen eighties. Want a Dead
<v Speaker 1>or Alive maybe one of the greatest eighties rock songs. So
<v Speaker 1>you have those three massive pillars from that album, and
<v Speaker 1>then you have tons of great songs. There's no throwaway tracks.
<v Speaker 1>Now you switch over to New Jersey. You've got five
<v Speaker 1>tim hits, lay your hands on me. You've got Bad Medicine,
<v Speaker 1>You've got Born to Be My Baby, You've got Living
<v Speaker 1>in Sin, You've got Abby there for you. You've got a
<v Speaker 1>couple of weird ones like Love for Sale and Ride
<v Speaker 1>Cowboy Ride. But for me, I think I'm gonna have
<v Speaker 1>to say that Slippery when Wet is probably the better
<v Speaker 1>album of the two, but New Jersey is my favorite album.
<v Speaker 1>I can't divorce my nostalgic feelings from that time of
<v Speaker 1>my life. But I'm going with my favorite album, New Jersey.
<v Speaker 2>Wrap. You totally threw me for a loop. I did
<v Speaker 2>not expect you to do that, son of a gun. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'm struggling. I'm still struggling. I'm back in the Buldeerham
<v Speaker 2>Major League. Which one of these things is better? And
<v Speaker 2>it is almost too difficult to say so. New Jersey
<v Speaker 2>lots of nosalgia. Just like you. I had that album.
<v Speaker 2>I remember it in my I remember listening to that
<v Speaker 2>tape over and over again for years. For years, I
<v Speaker 2>would listen to that tape. And if you look at
<v Speaker 2>the album as a whole, it has less song. It's
<v Speaker 2>every single song is at least good. You know, there
<v Speaker 2>are no bad songs on the album. There's the only
<v Speaker 2>one that I mentioned before, as Wild as the Wind,
<v Speaker 2>that just didn't it. I loved each part of it.
<v Speaker 2>It just didn't seem to mesh together like it was
<v Speaker 2>supposed to for me. But beyond that, every other single
<v Speaker 2>song on the album is good. And you have more
<v Speaker 2>chart topping songs off of this album than you do
<v Speaker 2>off of Slippery when Wet, and they're amazing. They're timeless,
<v Speaker 2>bad medicine. Lay your hands on me. I'll be there
<v Speaker 2>for you. I mean, there are so many timeless songs.
<v Speaker 2>But if I've got to pick, if I got I'm
<v Speaker 2>thinking of a thinking of you out, if I'm walking
<v Speaker 2>out the door and I got to pick one CD
<v Speaker 2>to take with me, which one of it is going
<v Speaker 2>to be? It's got to be Slippery when Wet. You
<v Speaker 2>just can't overcome the power of you. Give love a
<v Speaker 2>bad name, Living on a prayer, want a Debt or Alive.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's too iconic in my my
<v Speaker 2>nostalgic period to not give the nod to Slippery one
<v Speaker 2>Wet for me for.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, fantastic, fantastic, and I can't blame you at all. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I got no problem with that. Two fantastic albums. We
<v Speaker 1>love them both.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Please, we want to hear from you, guys. Which one
<v Speaker 1>do you think is the best? Is it Slippery When
<v Speaker 1>Wet from nineteen eighty six, is it New Jersey from
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight?
<v Speaker 2>Is it Keep the Faith?
<v Speaker 1>Hey? Keep the Faith is one that I would love
<v Speaker 1>to cover at some point.
<v Speaker 2>It's another great album. It's another tape that I had
<v Speaker 2>that I would make out to all the time.
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