'The Bachelorette’s' Tre Cooper Talks 'Men Tell All' and Why Tensions Might Be High

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Patch or Happy Hour listeners. Thank you for joining us once more on this lovely week, and I have my girl Tasha back ready for some action this week. I am here and I am ready to dive into this last episode because a lot freaking happened. What was this last episode and it was the episode before the episode of all episodes, Hometowns. Maybe that's why it was like so intense. We started this week talking about how they basically cut the group in half. Yeah, the week prior, so like, Katie's getting rid of men quick and it's crazy to think that we're already at this point. I feel like, quite honestly, we were just watching the premiere, but we only now have a handful of men left, and every single rose she's going to be giving out is a hometown rose. I have to say, I'm very, very, very excited for our guest today. It is the one and only Trey, and I think he's going to break it down and give us still some tea. I can't wait to have him on. He has been one of my favorites since week one. He just he seems like such a sweetheart and from everything that I've heard from the other men, and from Katie about Trey is he just is one of the kindest men. I can't wait to have him on and see that for myself. But until that, let's quickly recap what we saw go down last night, because, as we just mentioned, it is crunch chime and this week I remember being both on the bach shirt and my season of the Bad Shirrette feeling finally the pressure hit me in this week of like, holy shit, we're here and I'm going to be meeting families and they're going to be meeting my family, and like this is when you start to feel that switch where for a while it's fun, you're you're having a great time, and then it hits and you feel this anxious pressure of like I have to make some really tough but like really smart decisions here, And I mean you can attest it. What were you feeling like when you were Bachelorrette in this moment giving out those hometown roses. Well, kind of like what you said in the beginning, it's all like I don't want to say all fun and games, but it kind of is like you're dating all these guys, you're enjoying being a bachelorette, and like really just having fun. But I always said, like, it's when the families get involved. It's like it really puts things into perspective because I don't introduce a lot of people to my family, so I could only imagine what these guys were feeling, you know what I mean. And so I just remember feeling like, Okay, I remember what I'm here for. It's getting down to the wire, like this really needs to be meaningful connections, and like I need to be actually able to see these guys at the end of the like at the end of this at the altar with me. And so that's kind of like what made me really nervous, to be honest, it's just like I can't be playing around a more. It's time to get down and dirty and also involve people's families, which really really really scares me because it's not just their hearts in their hands anymore. It's like the entire family they get invested. And what's I mean, Like my aunt has always said this, when you pick a partner and you ultimately get married in life, you're not just marrying that now, you are marrying into each other's families. You take all of that on and so it's so much more. And one thing that I found very interesting, at least when I went through it is oftentimes, and I'm sure you get asked this all the time, is people think it's fake in a way because it's a show, and they think that not everything is always as real as it appears. So I think this, and I will say families go into that probably thinking that, or they did in the back of their mind of being like, oh, my son or my daughter has only been away for a couple months. At this point, there's no way that this is real. There's no way that they're falling in love, that they're ready to get engaged and you know, do all the things this show is about. And so for me at least, it was so interesting to see that switch in people's minds and their hearts to be like, oh, the couple sitting in front of me actually does really genuinely care about each other and this could be something. It's when they witness it for the first time in real life. It's such a game changer and it makes it so much more real and present. And that's when I say, like, things hit harder coming up, and I think Katie, obviously she hasn't met families yet, but she recognizes that. Yeah, and it's probably so much more intense for her because she didn't make it to hometowns that Matt season. This is the first time experiencing it. She's doing this alongside the men, which I will say, I think it's a really beautiful thing that they're all soaking this in and having to go through this as one together. They're leaning on each other a little bit more. I think that's definitely true. I didn't think about that. It just makes a little bit more vulnerable. I feel like, I mean, obviously we were really vulnerable in that situation, but we kind of like knew how it went, like we can put them at ease. But at the same time, Katie's never even been in Nize shoes before, and so she's just like, Okay, what do I do? And I was there, you know, firsthand, experiencing that with her. So it's just it's this is when the feelings like really kick in and it's like, can I actually get engaged at the end of this with one of these people? Let me ask you this. So when I started watching this episode, it started off I'm just gonna say interesting. It started off I felt like something was off with Katie, and I'm going to just assume it's because of the pressure and because she's feeling this weight gwinn to this week. But she just seemed and it got better, I will say because she had her first one on one with Greg. The day portion was fun. Something just seemed strange to me. So it starts off she has her first one on one with Greg, they do the Seattle date where they're throwing fish and yeah, whatever. It just I felt like Katie's energy seemed off to me, and I was actually texting some of my girlfriends about it. I was like, does this feel weird? Like something doesn't seem like like she's present but not fully I think enjoying what this state could be. I will say it got better during the night portion when they actually sat down and could have a heart to heart in depth conversation about meeting the families. And then they had this oh my god, the rain story tell you that. I know. I was like, damn that, Taia. It was like watching it was really good. It was like watching The Notebook or some Hollywood movie. I was like, God, this is so hot. But so it did get better, But it just started off like I could tell Katie was in her head a bit, and maybe if anyone else felt that pleased, DM me or let us know, because I don't want to be the only one. You are right, You are right. And I remember like transporting myself back there and just remembering how high the tension was and like her feelings, like it was all over the place at that point in time, and she was just getting really nervous, Like again, you have to understand the week prior, five guys went home, and so now she's looking around, there's seven people. Hometowns are literally around the corner. I think she was just starting to get a little stressed out and being like, Okay, this is again just like we talked about, the games are like done, this is real. And I just remember her really struggling with letting go and just trusting what she had and just like really trying to just be vulnerable with the guys because I feel like she is also, like we've talked about it, like she's likes to be in control. She likes everything to go her way, and I don't we all And I'm just like I understand that, but right here, right now, like you're not going to know all the answers and you're doing the best that you can. So make the most of the time with these guys right now, and just know that you're making the right decisions. Like you'll know, like you'll feel it if you need to let someone go right For example, why she let Brendan go. I mean, she just didn't feel it right then and there, And that's I told her. You're going to feel it when someone comes up to you and you need to present your feelings and it's just like it's not something you want to explore because it's just not there yet. But Yeah, that conversation that she was having with Greg when she was sitting at like the little gondola thing, she was definitely off and I think she was definitely in her head. I don't know. It's so easy about it get ahead of yourself in this process because for the longest time, you have so many men. But when you have enough people, it's easy to kind of go from relationship to relationship. But when you actually have to sit back and when things get so strong and you realize you are on, you do have a crunch shime and you have to make tough decisions really quick in that moment. You just have to really go off of your gut and your heart. Yes, and I think that's what she's starting to do. But it's not easy. It's scary, because so scary, and as she said, she has so many good guys. All she's wanted is a good partner in her life, and now she has a handful of them that it makes it that much harder to say goodbye and to cut somebody when they could potentially be an incredible partner in life. So it just I feel for her. I know that I say it felt off, which I'm not bashing her in any way. I totally understand. I remember being in her position. So we see her send Brendan home. And then at the end of the episode, andrew S did go home, which I did not see coming. I didn't say that. I was shocked by that decision. And then, oh god, the moment when he showed up at her room and then left her. Taitia again, this is like a Hollywood movie. It's just for the note. And then she runs after him and then they embraced. I know that John Andrew and just like they don't make men like him. I'm telling you right now, they do not make men like Andrew s if I. When I watched it, I texted one of the producers last night and I said, make him the Bachelor. I really love Andrew us. So, I mean, obviously, I know we still have a full other season to go through with Michelle, and we will have hopefully many great men from her season, but Andrew right now is a top contender in my book. Same and I'm glad that he had that extra time with her to say goodbye, but to leave on their own terms, and to leave how they've always sort of had their relationship which is laughing and with smiles, and I thought that was a really beautiful thing that we were able to witness. So next week, as hometowns, obviously she has four men left, we'll meet four families that I think it'll be, you know, a little make or break moment coming up. But also we have something else coming up, which is mental all and obviously I don't even think it has not filmed yet, so we have no idea what to expect, but we can always expect some drama, some laughs, some tears, and of course bloopers. So I can't wait to watch that unfolded. It's one of my favorite episodes. Each week is the Mental All and the Women to All Special, because there's so much more. It's just real and it's like people go from living in the season to then coming back and forming friendships, but then having to put themselves back in that scenario, back in that mindset of like what was It's really hard to do that, by the way, And I've never I've never I've I've attended a Mental All, but I've never been present at the Women to At Me neither. Oh yeah, you weren't either, tatient. I know only done the Mental Lot. I know we have such a good recap that week. So because it's going to be crazy, I we attended obviously, and really when we did show up to Mental All, it was more of like we had some intimate interactions with a few guys, but we didn't really experience the craziness that the guys like get into. All I cared about it is like I just wanted to make their jaws drop us like I just the fear stress. But yeah, you truly kind of walk in blind Yeah, which we will get into when we see the Mental All Special. I cannot wait. But until then, I think it's time to bring the man of the hour onto me that I am so thrilled to finally meet. Ladies and gentlemen. Please welcome to Batch our Happy Hour. Trey. Hi, Trey. I knew I was gonna like you night one when you didn't even come out of the limo. You came out with the balls in the truck and I was like, I like this man, and you are bringing that same ball energy to the big energy. One of the questions I was actually going to ask you was like, so, how do you do those balls go? And I was like, put my listen to the podcast and I can't. I hope, I hope they leave this into I hope they leave it in um. Okay, to all of our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, we have Trey on and Trey, is this one of the first podcast that you have ever done. This is the first part of my life, the first part of your life. We're taking the podcast. Virgin I love Becca, I love this. Oh my gosh, balls, Virginity. You know we're just gonna start off with a bang here everybody, but no, in all honesty, trade, we are so incredibly excited to have you with us. You've just had this vibe, this great energy the entire season, and obviously and unfortunately we did see you go home last week. But how has it been for you? You know, it's one thing to be living in the experience of the show, it's another to be watching it back. So how have you been watching yourself back? And how are your family and friends taking it? Man, it's first of all, I'm so happy to be here, so excited to finally meet you, Becca. Nice to see you againation, this is a dream come true for me. I'll say that it's been a roller coaster. You know. I'm somebody that you know, if they're like you want the good news of the bad news first, I'm taking the bad news first to get out of the way. And so for me, it's been hard to not you know, I know, you guys know it's better than anybody to like search your name while the episodes on to see what people are saying, and for me, I kind of look for the bad first. And so I gotta stop doing that because I get a lot of love. And so I'm watching myself back and I'm like, yes, like I look happy, this is me. And then there's those moments where I get a little testy for looking a better word. I'm like, try, like, what was going on with you right here? So it's been up and down, but mostly up. I'll say I'm proud, and then my mom, you know, I showed my parents some love obviously in my intro very close family, so they were happy that I was just me and that was the biggest thing for me out there, you know, when I'm talking to the guys and I'm talking to producers, just like, I don't want to come back from this and have people not be like the people who know me be like, yo, what were you doing out there? Or who were like the people who know me every week they're like, oh my baby. My mom was like when you made this space, I knew you were feeling this and when you say this, I can tell you where and it's just like that makes you feel so good to know that, Like, I didn't turn into someone for this show. You know, I was me the whole time. Yes, it didn't completely work out for me, obviously, but you know I grew so much during this and I'm so happy to have gone through. I love that. I feel like when I say, you have such a great vibe and energy, Like obviously we've seen that on the big screen. Now sometimes when people come on the podcast, you know, because you did say to us you were a little bit nervous, and you still just carry that good energy. And so I love that the tray that we saw on the big screen is the tray we're getting now, which will seem very happy because since I won't. Like I said, you were one of our favorites, and I think you've been definitely a fan favorite for the past couple of weeks. So starting out, it seems like you and Katie had a connection right away, and you were somebody that she seemed to just really trust throughout the entire process. Did you again, I was gonna say coming out of the lima, but coming out of the ball truck, did you feel that that instant chemistry, that connection with her? It was amazing coming out of the ball truck. You know, I was laying back there, I think longer than people might have thought. You know, it wasn't like, oh, I know how long it was. We were just like staring at the truck literally what seems like forever, and I was under those balls. It was I came into this thinking, you know, maybe I was going to pop out of the limit. So when it switched over, I was like, man, like, I just want to not fall Like I wasn't even thinking I want her to like me Like that stuff came later so they would not get up and I don't trip. I'm like, oh, you got this, You've got this. And since she's smiling back at me, Katie is such an easy person to communicate with and to connect with that as soon as I like popped out, you know, just the suit, she's already giving me good vibes and good energy. And then when we were able to kind of circle back and have a chat, you know, I said, backward it all again, the ball fit of love. You know, she was so easy to talk, too easy to connect with. You know, obviously the show has a lot of content, defends a two hours you don't get to see the whole conversation. But from the first conversation I was like, Yeah, this is a girl that I could see myself, you know, connect with she's she was in the first day she was in. Was that like a fear for you before you know, doing your little entrance that like what if like we didn't have a good instant connection. Was that something that you were nervous about. I think one of the things that even led me to do this in the first place, because the fact that I've lived, I mean, I'm twenty six and single. You know, I've lived up to this point kind of for lack of a better phrase, scared of rejection. You know, I'm not a guy that puts myself out there a lot in the dating world. I'm very calculating. You know, they say shooters shoot. I like to see that there's the defense, and so yeah, I was I was like, man, what if she doesn't like me? That was my biggest thing. Um, you know, a lot of the I've seen a lot of the comments and people being like not to skip you far ahead, But like every guy goes out there thinking about being a bachelor, and it's like, dude, I just wanted one row. So I come out there and not you know, be embarrassed coming back to my family being like, Yo, this girl didn't even want to see possibly where it would go, and say, I was super nervous just to I wanted to show her all of me. But there's like a very small amount of time in the beginning where you can even show where parts of you and so Yeah, I'm scared to be rejected for sure. It's funny that you mentioned that, Um, he's obviously your intentions were genuine and whatnot, But we saw you involved in a lot of the drama in the house, um specifically you know where I'm going with this um with Thomas and want to be the bachelor and all of that those comments that were made. So what made you decide that you want to reveal that Thomas said that he wanted to be the bachelor to all the other guys in the Katie, I think it's not There was not like one thing that was like, oh, now you gotta say it. It's most of just how I've been brought up. Like my mom is a very She was a stay at home mom as soon as I was too, and so she was very big on like drilling in core values that she felt were important to us. And one of those is when you're wrong and meet you're wrong, and you know, when you see something, say something, and that doesn't always work out obviously as we see then I couldn't just you know, I've been raised to be this man. I raised by this strong woman and this strong man to be someone of value, and I have two older sisters, I think, which which plays a big part as well. And so one of the things that was going through my head was, man, if this was my sister, that was the bache right, and there's a group of thirty guys there and they were all spending time with each other and she didn't get to see, you know, everything that was going on with them. What I want one of those guys to tell my sister, you know what they saw, and the answer is gonna be yes every time. And so for me, I think that's what it if. There was like a final thing that made me go, you know what, I gotta say something. It's the fact that I thought about my sisters and what I would want for them, and you know, Katie, like obviously I hadn't known her super long, but you start to feel catch feelings, you know, you guys know in this situation is different when you don't have the distractions of friends or family or a job or your phone. It's like you're you're you're locked in on your relationship. And so I'm like, man, I want to protect this girl's heart, even if I'm not the guy that ends up having it. And so you know, I got a lot of a lot of a lot of flak for that, but I don't regret it because I felt like after giving her the information, whatever decision she would have made, I would have been happy with. You know, if she would have given to Thomas a rose and continue with Thomas and sent me home immediately, I would have been like, you know, what I did what I thought was right at the time, and that's all I can do. Were you and you say you didn't have any regrets, but was any part of you worried that in doing that what the other men would say or think? So, yeah, when I said I didn't have any regrets, that might have been me speaking in the mode. I mean, it's tough, it's tough, Like I do have regrets. But at the same time, there was definitely a part of me the thought that, you know, I was going to get fall back from the men. I was surprised but also reassured that you know, those guys we're on my side. Let me ask you this because watching it back as a viewer, we all know like each week, certain things, certain storylines get heightened, right, And and I've said this on the podcast a few weeks ago. I was Askantatius, because I was like, obviously we're there. Was it just a super super slow newsweek where this the comment about potentially wanting to be the Bachelor was the storyline that we're running with right now, and it seemed so heightened to the point where people, you know, we've heard, we heard the term manipulative turnout constantly, we heard Psycho were answering. I've had my own thoughts about those those terms and that phrasing for this situation. So it's one thing to be living in it and you know, having these conversations with the men and with Katie, but watching it back did it seem like it was so extreme and blown out of proportion. So that's one of the blessings of like being able to come back from this and kind of look back at it, is that you're obviously not in the same heightened sense of like always on. I'll start off by saying, you know, the word cancer, I definitely apologize. You know, I watched the podcast and I saw what you said about it, and I don't remember saying that personal, but if that was me, man, no, I definitely was in a moment and that was insensitive. I met in like a cancer, something that attacks the body from the inside and it's hard to detect. And in the house he was kind of, in our opinion, was attacking in ways the process from the inside and was hard to detect. And so I was trying to make that similarity in it, and I should have picked a different choice of where, but I will say it was definitely more heightened. But it, like I said, it's a two hour show. You're not getting to see everything. Yeah, just know that, like without you know, destroying anyone's character, because I do. I consider them all brothers, and you know, brothers disagree sometimes and brothers have, you know, arguments, and brothers have fights. So going back to obviously, you know you, we did see you and Andrew us kind of get after it a little bit, you know, in how you wanted to confront or not confront Katie on the situation. We see you then end up getting the Rows the group date rose that night, So what did that feel like? Was that just the validation you needed at that point or how are you feeling in that moment? It was tough. I'm not gonna lie get in the group date rose and seeing you know, obviously watching it back, you know, like I said, they're showing the highlights of the conversation. You know, there's a lot more to that conversation obviously, but at the same time, getting it after that specific conversation, I'm not gonna lie and say I felt amazing. I felt good getting the group date rose, But at the same time I wanted it to be under a little different circumstances because obviously after that you kind of see, you know, Andrew and other people are like, oh, he got that because he said this, or he got that because and for me it was like the first part of that date was about being daring, and you know, I got my butt waxed. I did a bunch of things that were like for me, just dary, out of my comfort zone, very daring. And then the second part she was like, it was about truth and that's been something that you know, we were stewing over a lot. There's been a lot of conversations, and so I was like, I gotta be truthful with this woman no matter what happens after that. So part of me felt great about getting the rows, but part of me felt like this is gonna be the most questioned rows of all of them, and it kind of wash um overall, because you know, going back to the whole butt waxing and crazy date, what was the ultimate favorite date of the entire season? My favorite date was the was the Dar's date. Really, it's such a fun one. It makes me happy that you said that, because obviously that was my favorite date on my season, and so I Becca hosted it for me. Actually, so I had to bring it to Katie's because it is just so freaking fun and you guys don't know what to exspect and it makes you do the wildest things like wax o parts I don't want to know about. So I'm glad that you really liked it. I think that for me, like one of the things that was you know, obviously we didn't know what we were getting into. Les they said, oh, you guys are paired up. I was like, please let me be with Christian, Like I love all the guys that me and Christian were like very very close. Yeah, we're matched so well. And so it was probably the most fun I've had, like in my entire life. I'll say it's the top three most fun days I ever had. We ever in your entire life. We laughed from the start of being here together to the end of it. And you know, obviously the most I got to interact with you and Caitlin, you know, for the proposal and the panis yeah, almost kind of. You really did moments of panic. I think I was out of my comfort zone that entire experience, But being with Christian, that was the few one of the times were like, it's not just me doing this, Like I felt like, oh, it's me and Tim. We were both panicking, like, and we chugged. We chugged a white claw before we did the pepper thing, which made it like way worse, Like we didn't know They're like, oh, hey, we're about to go do these peppers. And so it got to the point where like I was leaning on him. I was like, yo, I'm panic harrying yea. And so one of the things that was cool was the food thing. You know, you saw the guys picking off their own tins. I was like, Christian, I'm gonna pick yours. You picked mine? Yes, And he picked mine and it was mashed potatoes. I was like, bro, I would have loved that. I would have loved the mashed potatoes. Sure, the mashed potatoes tray. I made it look like, what would you what would you rather had? Did you want? Times? I had to give too much out, but I pulled Christians and he got churros. Yeah he really did. And honestly I ate a couple easier. And for the waxing, you know, Harry is part of your body. I'm not a Harry guy and it's not a secret. I'm not a guy that like pride to his manliness on an amount of body area. So you don't think anyone should. And so it's like for me, I'm like, na, dude, I don't want to be sweaty. So when it came time for Harry's part of your body, I was like, um Christian when he was a big fan, and I think it came across well, I was panicking. But I would say that was my favorite date. Long story short, Oh yeah, that one was crazy. Speaking of waxing the men on Tatious season because like she said, I hosted that date, they waxed other areas and then some of them ended up showing all of us where they actually waxed, and so I think I think a little ass is okay. I like Zach literally waxed a t in the side of his leg um, and it probably was there for about like four months. It was actually he was like to keep it up at it's still there. In fact, he's not to get rid of it. What was your what was your least favorite date? Ah, that's a good question. I mean, so I said second favorite was the Public Show. But then also I would say, well, least favorite was the roast. I'm not gonna even I forgot about the road favorite. And I am a very roasty guy, like and that's why you see, I'm like, oh, this is gonna play to my strengths, not meaning that like I love to tear people down, meaning like if this is a situation where like we're gonna have some fun and take some jabs in each other. I grew up with two older sisters who are very good at like finding stuff that would make me cry and then just like pressing me on it, and so I'm used to like the back and forth, and so I was expecting to be a lot more of like a oh, this person says one thing and then you can clap back. And so when it was kind of more like a we get asked questions and answer type of thing, and then obviously kind of got to like piling on Hunter. I was like, ah, and you can kind of you be uncomfortable this. It was more of a debate at that point. It wasn't a roast. It was a debate. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't a roast at all. Okay, yeah, yeah, it wasn't really even a debate because we weren't even allowed to respond in the way that you would normally maybe respond in a debate. But I will say that, like looking at it, it definitely felt more bully esque watching it than it felt on stage, right. But at the same time, man like Hunters a grown man, and I do like that. Like when I watched his uh confessionals, like he was definitely you know, confident in not backing down, and you love to see that because, like I said, we're all brothers, and I would never want him to be like feeling like, oh, I can't speak up for myself for you know, anything like that. I would say that was my least favorite of the dates that I went on. I was the group day king. Unfortunately I never got a one on one. It's okay, it's okay, don't worry. The group dates are more fun. Actually true. The basketball date I was one of the guys like hund Of, like I loved that, like I loved I grew up playing football and so for me, you know, it's been unfortunately eight years since high school, and so I haven't tackled anyone untiever And he needs to get that a question masculinity, but like a little bit of like I wanted to hit somebody, and like, yeah, I wanted to like in an environment where it's like sports and companies, right, And so when Hunter made that first tackle, it was like, oh, like shit, like this is real. Like I thought like we were gonna kind of, you know, play around a little bit. And so once he made that tackle, was like, okay, guys, like we gotta get real, we gotta get serious. And from then on, like I had, I had a blast. I also realized, like New Mexico people don't really realize it's like almost the same amount of elevation above sea level as Denver. We were gasping for air like thirty secret the elevation is wild in New Mexico. Never thought that that was a thing. I could barely breathe the first two weeks I was there. It was the craziest thing. I experienced. So yeah, playing sports, good job, guys. Can you spill some tea on some on something that might have happened that the viewers I didn't see that you wish people saw. Ah, that's a good question, Matt, so team meaning like bad stuff that happened or anything really funny or something. So I will say that, Like, oh, there's so many things, So I'll start out with this. This group of guys was the funniest group of guys that I've ever been around in my life. And I think that some of those conversations don't lend themselves to maybe like the romance, and so they didn't make it. But like greg is a poet, and like he did a poem um for the for the for the roast, and that kind of was like his funny thing. But like periodically every week he would like write a poem about what was going on and then come up to us and like have a glass of wine. And like he had this alter ego called Gregory James, and he would come and like perform these poems and they were so funny, and like they never showed to you that I love that um me and Katie um just for like the romance side of it. Her favorite food is sushi, I'm pretty sure. And you know, I was born in Japan and so we got like a little sushi. I love this. Yeah, so I was born in Tokyo. My mom is in the Air Force, and so I was born. Oh my god, that's amazing connection to Japan that I just feel like the motherland. So when I was like, oh, she loves sushi, I was like, guys, we gotta do like a sushi eating day. And so we ate some sushi at a cocktail party. You know, we discussed my weird sushi dipping techniques and how like she's dips it in and do it, Like what's your weird sushi dipping technique? So like, well, normally people take this hard to like visualize, like, okay, if it's a circular role, dip it damn words horribly, right, that's what normal people do. But like for me, turn on the head, yeah and like roll and like roll it outside right, Oh doesn't it follow parts in? No? And that's that's why she made a lot of it, because you think, I don't need you to do a little ig live story of how you eat your sushi. So all of us can see this unraveling with Tray. Oh gosh, that be good. That's funny. That's my everyday. So yeah, that was one of the things that I loved about that some other tea that was not shown. Um huh. I feel like they did a really good like they did a really good job of showing the super highlights. I would say. Besides, I was just like cracking up and laughing and my I mean I made out with Katie. That didn't make it. I'm hoping I was just once, just one time, sir. The bad kisser. Uh, not the commentary, but the bad kisser maybe vibes that Connor felt. I'm glad that, like, if anything, no one can say that I'm a bad kisser yet because they don't know. But I do wish a little party were Wait did you just say yet as it like you know you are and like it might come out soon? Well ah no, oh you guys got life you know who know? That is so funny. Well, so here's the thing. This is actually why there's so much we don't see. But this is why we love men and women tell all each season is because we get the blue person. So maybe moments like this will be seen. Are there any moments that that are blooper worthy with you? I feel like my whole I'll say there's a moment where, um, you know Michael A, you know, we consider him like the dad of the house. He's grilling out, you know, where I'm having my Mimosa's. I'm probably three and a half deep at this point, and we start to break out the dancing and singing, and you know, Michael A's freestyling, and you know, I'm getting loose, and so I wonder if that makes the blooper real. Um, the waxing definitely gotten way more interesting, way more Oh gosh, And I don't know about my puppet show, but also me around the house, I'm a laugh I'd rather laugh through everything than like just be super serious and and straight. So I'm kind of excited to see the bloopers too. I really don't know what is blooper worthy, but I'll say I was coming up. I was out there. They're the best, Okay. I know that you guys always have each season, there's always a group chat with most of the contestant. So is there one we know that there is one, Trey. Oh, she's good, she's there. There is one. The men have to have one. It happens every season, every season, and don't even try. I would love to be a fly on the wall to rooting what you guys all talk about. Um, so, as we know, mental is coming up, and you do say that they're sort of this brotherhood that you guys have formed, and obviously, you know, sometimes we like to leave the past in the past. But knowing that you guys now are for the most part friends and have this group chat and you know, are back in the real world, living lives and just you know, building upon the friendship that you guys formed at the resort. What do you think we can expect from mental All? Because when we watched Women till a last season, we thought it was going to be a lot more heated. It was actually very tames, very cordial, very mellow civil, if you will. So, what do you think we can expect with this mental All? That's a great question. I'm kind of also like I part of the answers. I don't know what to expect because you have a such a diverse group of guys that are passionate and very like not afraid to say what they feel. And so on one hand, I think you're gonna have a little bit of a romance. You're gonna have a little bit of that good to see you guys again, happy to see you guys again, jokey type of vibe. And then you're gonna have you know, it's been a while since some of us have had that maybe resolution to tension. You know, the last time some of us saw each other wasn't necessarily on great terms. And so you're also going to have hopefully an amicable resolution to some issues. You know, for me, I would definitely say, like I said, I have no regrets, but I do want those guys to know like nothing is coming from a place of hate or a place of evilness. You know, in me that was I might have done it the wrong way, but at the time it was what I thought was right. Um. I think you're gonna get some important conversations that need to be had. Um, you're gonna hopefully see some guys open up a little bit more about how they felt about their exits. I know Connor b Man his exit hit us hard, like hard, and so seeing him be able to kind of share, you know a little bit more, because like I said, we weren't able to be like, how did it go? How are you feeling? It was like a hey, guys, I'm leaving by, and I was like, oh no, Like so I think that you're gonna get it to see a little bit of of that. You're gonna probably see some arguments and you'll you'll see some laughs, I think more often overall, I hope that there will be more laughs than anything. You know. I think that you know, we love each other and that's not a secret, and so I hope that you know, with these resolutions of these arguments, that that we can come to a place of friendship at the end. But also, you know, there's guys they're not going back down, and if people come at me crazy, you know, then I might have to get into my TESTI bang by like I'm not gonna lie. I'm really interested to see what goes down, just because there are so many conversations that I feel like we still need a little bit more information on, and there were some tifts between you guys that I think need to be worked out a little bit more. So it's always interested. I cannot wait for men all but tray. We also some saw some other exciting news this past week that you will be on the beaches of Paradies this summer. I wish our listeners could see trays not only singing. He has bang? Should we shake here? Come on? Tell us what we can't expect? How was it? If you could sum it up in one word, what would you describe your time in Paradise? Like, give give us two to three words. I said, it was nuts, it was a whirlwind. You saw the boy come out of his show. I'm not go like so for me bachelorette like I was. I started nervous, and I lunged up into like, oh, like you can do this. Oh, she has a connection with you. She gave you a rose. And then so then by the time I get to Paradise, I'm like, go for it, man, Like what is the worst that can happen? And so I hit the beach, you know, running like and and I'm I'm I'm excited for people to see, you know what happens. I don't want to give away too much, but it was a whirlwind. You see me more confident, You see me more you know, assertive. You see it's it's it's an interesting dynamic between people who kind of know each other and the Katie's guys come in and we have our own little sauce and that we provide to the mix. That's that's dope. I think. So people are gonna be excited to see what we will we will we shake up. Well, I'm excited to see what you shade up because I feel like it's so interesting because I feel like you say you cep out of your shell. I feel like you were seen, Yeah, because if you were, it felt like you say that it took you a wild warm up. We never noticed that whatsoever. So that's funny you say that. I feel like I'm a nervous talker, and it's something I told the guys a bunch of times, like when I'm nervous, I smile and talk and it comes across the well and I'm inside. I'm like, yeah, I feel this on such a deep level because I am the same exact way, and so many people are like just say less sometimes. But I hate, like, I hate awkward silencing. I totally feel you. I ramble when I get nervous, and it's just like I could have emitted like maybe fifty two of those words that I just said, but whatever, buzz and they're just like shocking me. Yeah, they're just like okay, I'll stop. I mean, we could make this a thing one day if you really want it. Um Trey, this has been such an absolute pleasure. I feel like there's still so much that I want to ask you and talk to you about. But we we asked all of our guests each week what was overall I mean here time of the season, now that we've seen you go home, what was your rose and what was your thorn of kV season? Oh that was a good question, Dobby with that one hold on, let me Oh, he's getting back in the first. So I'll start with the thorn. My thorn was just that I'm a passionate guy. That's not a secret. I'll come from a passionate family, and I think that there's times where, you know, the long nights and the stress of the situation led me to be a little bit more dramatic than I normally would be. I would say my thorn was that I let small things become big things. Sometimes I want to keep the big things big and keep the small things small. That's just kind of something I like to do, and in this situation, I think sometimes I didn't let that happen, I'll say that's my probably my thorn. And then also just not getting a one on one. I want a two part thorn. Not getting a one on one for me, I felt like me and Katie would have had so much fun on a one on one because I made her a laugh every time I talked to her, and laughter is like my biggest tool for me in romance, Like I want the center at the center of my love. I want there to be joy and laughter. And so we had that, and so I wish I would have had maybe some more time to tap into that my rose. And this is kind of probably I don't know if people are gonna love this or hate this, but the way that I grew as a person, I would say that I came in there similar. And when I said I was similar to Connor, it's that we both shared our insecurities openly. You know, we came out there and it was a group of Adonises. Man, there's a bunch of gorgeous men out there that are like six feet eight, like Thomas is a beautiful man, Like let's be real, the guy is, you know, cut out of marble. And so for me, it was like, you know, I popped out of that truck and felt good. But I walked into that room and kind of felt like I didn't belong. And so for me who was staring at that feeling like I didn't belong, to like meshing with the guys to connect it with Katie to being like, oh man, maybe maybe I am a great guy. Maybe I do have like a lot to offer in a relationship. And by the end of it, you know, that's why I walked out with a smile. One of the things that was important to me was I want to leave this how I started, you know, laughing and smile with Katie, and I was happy, obviously heartbroken, but happy that I was a way better guy at the end of that than I was at the start of it. And so my rose would just be the personal growth and the friendships that I got to to make with everybody. I love that You're so interesting to me, because he went back to your energy. You have just such a fun, loving, playful, just positive energy. Obviously I don't think anybody can can fight that, but you also still seem like you are so grounded and mature. It's just like this very You're just a very well rounded man. You warning that not like, oh you're a weird guy. No, not at all. I would never say well, I'm look, I'm really weird too. So if I say you're weird, I like weird. But no, you just like you like you're very surprising because you have just so many different levels to your personality that this is why we love having you men on the podcast, because like you said, there's only so much we can see in a two hour block each week, and when you guys are filming twenty four seven, they have to cut out so much. And so this is why we love having you on to actually get to know you, get to know the inside scoop, what makes you take who you are to your core, and so I'm thrilled that we could have you on today. This has been an absolute pleasure so much, and you're just as worthy as all as other guys you marvel as well, like, don't even ever try downplay yourself, like you're there for a reason. Life always happens why it's supposed to. So always believe that I always remember that. Yeah, yeah, and that's why my Instagram bios. You are enough. And that was one of the things that was written on the little letters I read from my parents and it's funny because they snuck those into my backpack. Not didn't see that they were going to do that, and they they address things that I didn't even tell them about. Just you are enough, man, Someone's gonna love you for you no matter what. Absolutely, and that made me feel a lot better. So it's great every time every conversation I have with you guys and with people from the show, it makes me feel, you know, a lot better. Like you know, It's one thing when your parents tell you you're great. It's another thing when people who don't know you would have nothing to gain, you know, tell you that, no, they like you. So it feels good. Absolutely, it was. Really this is so fun. Thank you an absolute pleasure, Trey. I'm sure this is not the last time our paths will all across. We have many more fun things in store when you become part of the Spatch Nation world, and so I'm sure we will see you again, have you on again very soon. But thank you for joining about your happy hour today. Thank you so much. I hope you guys have an awesome rest of your week. Have a good one, okay, stay in touch. What to say about Trey. He called himself testing Trey at one point, and I'm like, he's terrific Tray. To me, that was way terrific Tray. I'm gonna call him, Um, what else rides a tea? And it's actually a really hard letter. Okay I would know because I'm Tasha, but like it's really hard. Yeah, what do you I mean, like anything good? Terrific, tremendous, tremendous Tray, Try Tray. He just has God, I'm gonna say this once again, his energy is amazing. It's infectious. It's tremendous. It's tremendous. It's amazing. I love this. Yeah, No, he really does. He's infectious in the sense of like he's always happy, he's always smiling. He has this bubbly energy to himself that you just want to kind of like keep talking to him and just it just feels good. So I'm so happy we had him on the podcast today. I'm too. I I it's so funny because he told us a couple times that he was nervous to do it, and I'm like, don't be, first of all, because no, you were. He was a fan favorite. But yeah, it's just he he just cares himself so well, and he has, like I said, he has like the old, young, infectious aura if you will, but then mix with kind of an old soul in a way. It's just like this weird, like this cool chameleon type personality that I enjoy so I hope everybody else enjoyed that. We will see him very soon once again on Mentell and he also is gracing the beaches of Paradise. So if you're bummed that Tray went home last week, don't be. We will see him again. So huge shout out to Trey for joining us and for all of our Badchelor Happy Hour listeners. Thank you all for joining us once again. 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