Bungee Jumping, Brayden’s Exit, and a Knitting Biomedical Scientist

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Speaker 1: What's up Vatchination.

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Speaker 2: I am Joe and I am Serena, and.

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Speaker 1: We are back for another episode later this week. We are going to be chatting with Dotton. We've we're big fans of Doton, so you definitely want to stay tuned for that. It's a great interview. And yeah, before we get into recapping the episode, what's new? What's new? Serena P?

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Speaker 2: Nothing much, nothing much, just traveling a lot. I'm in Toronto right now. Got my boucherette party coming up.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be in Chicago pretty soon, so I'm excited about that. And yeah, we any uh, anything anything new in our life? Anything we could talk about here.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. So.

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Speaker 1: We had your cousin's wedding. We had your cousin's wedding over the weekend. That was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun. And that was our last wedding before our wedding, which was kind of surreal. I mean, not that we go to like a crazy amoun of wedding, but we've had two or three weddings this year, and to know that the next one that we attend is going to be our own was so crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I did, yes that, And I also wore a tie, a pink tie. And I think subconsciously you calling out the guys in episode one for not wearing a tie made me buy a tie for this wedding.

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Speaker 2: I think it did too. I think my comment definitely got into your subconscious because I've never seen you really wear a tie, but I liked it. It was pink. I ended up wearing like a purply pink dress, which is kind of out of my comfort zone, and I liked her. I it's thought we looked super cute.

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Speaker 1: YEP. I actually used to have to wear a tie in grammar school. You know that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I wasn't a uniform kid. I went to like an arts high school, so we could wear whatever we wanted for the most part. But I feel like you would not have liked wearing an uniform as a kid I was.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like wearing a uniform. I was a uniform kid throughout, even throughout high school. I used to try to like sneak in like like lou Lemon, like jogging pants for my for my dress pants, but it didn't it didn't really work.

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Speaker 2: We're still trying to do that today, still still.

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Speaker 1: Trying to do it. All right, let's let's get into it. Let's recap this episode episode for location Ska Mania. Am I saying that right, it's Skaminni scot Ska Mania. Of course that's not right, Skimania Washington beautiful? It is, right, U. It's it's near Oregon. It's just like a very pretty state.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's giving Canada. It looked really a lot like Canada, like very a lot of nature, a lot of greenery. The weather didn't look spectacular while they were there. It was kind of cloudy and gloomy, but very very pretty. As much as they haven't traveled to Europe, Yeah, I still love watching them travel just to different places, like seeing different fashion, different weather, different scenery.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I thought about it.

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Speaker 2: Think it's a huge difference.

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Speaker 1: I thought about that this episode when they went in Washington, where I'm like, there's so many beautiful parts of the US that we just we don't really we may not think of going or see much of. So Yeah, yeah, I liked it, and I think it's got to be near. When we go to Serena's families from her mom's side, from British Columbia. So we go out to like Victoria, which is also a very picturesque.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks a lot like the west coast of Canada.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right, we're there. We see the first I like, the first point I made in my notes is Brandon is really having our time, can't really. He's listening to the guys, He's not buying what they're saying, which I you know, I feel like we could all relate.

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Speaker 2: To that, like do you buy what they're saying?

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Speaker 1: So I think some of them listen not I don't think. I think I think some of them are full of shit and they may not even know it. And then I think some of them are are being honest and real. I think Brayden is definitely coming across kind of jade it now, like he's just like really not buying into it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because some of what he's saying, like we see Sean talk about, you know, like how this process is working for him and he has really strong feelings for her and like I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, and since we haven't seen a lot of their relationship, like maybe they do have a great connection, but like it is hard to take it as seriously as someone who's had like a one on one date, because I'm like, Sean, you have spend that much time with her, Like, are you sure you're ready to get down on Wennee already? Like it's only week four. But I do think it's easy to like get caught up in the process and hear all these other guys saying it and just get carried away with your emotions a little bit. But then there are guys who definitely are getting there, and we see that going into Dotton's one on one, which we'll talk about more. But I agree Brayden.

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Speaker 1: He's got to lean he's got to lean in a little bit like he's he's going to try.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like he's at the point where I'm like, we've been trying to root for you, but I don't know how hard he's trying. And I think he's getting to the point where if he is trying, like he's he's tired, he's getting fed up.

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Speaker 1: Well we see that kind of later in the episode. But yeah, no, I agree completely, and then we have so our guy, Uh part of my top four is? Is Dotton part of your top four?

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Speaker 2: I don't think I put him. I don't think you I had I had Josh John, I had Joey, and I had Aaron B. So no, I didn't a huge miss on my part.

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Speaker 1: You're not looking good. How many guys do you even have left? In that?

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Speaker 2: I have Joey and I have Aaron B. So I've got two strong contenders.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got all four, so we're still really do you have all four? Yeah? I have Joey, Dotton, Xavier, and and Tanner. Tanner was still there. He's still there, and it seems like she likes him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he's the sleeper. Maybe he's the one that, like next week gets the one on one and like they have an amazing connection that we haven't been seeing.

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Speaker 1: There's always a sleeper. There's always a sleeper. So Donton gets the one on one. They they get into a yellow Jeep Wrangler. You know, I used to have a Jeep Wrangler four door.

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Speaker 2: I think I knew that. Wasn't it like your first car or one of your first cars?

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Speaker 1: No, no, but I did. I love a Jeep railer and I just that was one just one of the things I noticed.

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Speaker 2: It's a cool car. It's a cool car and it fits the setting very well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they go worst, worst possible date, imaginable bungee jumping. I would just absolutely hate every second of it.

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Speaker 2: You Know what I was laughing at is they're really not filling charity in this season on the dates like this is the second or third day. She showed up too, and like, I have no idea what's going on? And she guess there she was like she basically was like, I don't want to do this. Like there's definitely a reason they didn't tell her she was gonna be going bungee jumping that day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think they ever I mean I don't think they ever let the lee know what date they're going on. I'm assuming they're probably like, like, you know, get ready, like prepare them a little bit well for.

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Speaker 2: Her day with Xavier later on in the episode, she definitely knew what was happening. But I thought it was fun that her and Dotten both walked up and it was like a surprise for both of them versus her having to kind of lead the day. It puts them on a little bit more of an even playing field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, would you thay would you like that day? Would you want a bungee jump.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I don't have any interest in bungee jumping or skydiving. My dad has a crazy fear of heights, and my parents were always pretty chill growing up, and one of the big rules was like, please just don't jump off of anything tall. And I feel like that is like built within me now and I just have no interest in doing it. But if I was there and presented with the opportunity, I don't think I would. I don't think I would say no, not doing this. I think I would seize the moment and do it. But it does not compel me to like jump off a bridge and see if the cord doesn't break.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, I agree, I don't think I would have backed out. I mean, I and I have skydive before, which I think is a little scarier than budge jumping. I would just worry about getting nauseous with budge jumping. But it see like, so Charity's freaking out, Dotton's freaking out. But what Dotton does, what any good partner does, is makes her feel comfortable, you know what.

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Speaker 2: The way he was comforting her, I actually it reminded me of you, and I like when he was like, I'm freaking out, but then she was freaking out even more and he was hugging her knee, was like, it's okay, it's gonna be fine. I was like, Oh, it kind of reminds me of me in Joe a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so, that is that is something I do. Thank you, Thank you for that for that count. I also received another compliment via email. I don't know if you saw it yet, but I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait with it, the one about your acting the Mabling commercial.

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Speaker 1: My acting skills, Like you just becoming an actor. So yeah, So then, but date's going great and I they have their little like dinner one on one time after in Dotton, we see him now opening up and he talks about which when he comes out later this week, we definitely want to talk about his aunt putting him up for a lottery to get into the United States. So I actually can't wait to hear more about about that story. But I don't know. For me, like watching them, and it's not boring by any means, it just feels it just feels extremely natural. It really does feel like we're we're sitting in their private house.

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Speaker 2: Like watching them, I agree. It feels supernatural. They're equally very into each other, I believe, and Donton to me comes across as someone who, like went on the show. He seems like a very normal guy, like was just kind of like, let's see how this goes, and like he's someone who's really falling for this girl and this process is really really working for him, I think. And he's like seems a little like blown away by it all and blown away by Charity, which is just very endearing. I also feel like they've done a lot more like casual stuff, where like like they did the pool day and now they're not doing like a formal date. They did like the s'mores by the campfire, and I like watching that stuff because I feel like people's guards really come down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't think, like you said, like this process is working is working for him. I don't ever really even believe the process has anything to do with it. I always just think it's the person. Like when you actually like have that spark and you're really into someone, regardless of the process, you're just kind of like all right, like I want to see where this goes, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Like I believe Dotton and Charity could have met in a variety of different settings and hit it off, like I just feel like there are two people with a genuine connection.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, And she said, we see her in her interview say I I'm cheesing. I haven't had this in a minute, And you could just tell that was just like so like real and that's just how she's feeling.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, she's a really expressive person and you could just tell how happy she is, and you could tell he's really happy too, Like I'm just so excited to watch for their relationship unfolds and talk to him more about it when he comes on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they they're in love. So yes, stay tuned because later this week we are going to talk to dot. Okay, let's jump into the group date in the woods.

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Speaker 2: What did you think of this date?

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Speaker 1: Well, the first thing I noticed was Charity's wearing a down jacket a hat. I'm like, how cold is it? And I know it gets hold on the West coast, and then half the guys are where are just like longsleeve shirts. So that was the first thing I thought.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering that too, And also I'm impressed that you notice that because all season you have not been noticing the weather and the fashion in correlation with the weather. So I'm surprised you picked up on that because I literally was like, Moose Knuckle is sponsoring this episode, like she's been wearing some killer Moose Knuckle jackets. And Braiden isn't a long sleep buttoner. But even the guys that were like Braiden's underdress like he's trying to show off. I'm like, you're only in a long sleep in a vest, like you have one extra layer, like you gotta be cold.

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Speaker 1: And Braiden's also he's not just wearing a railer button out. It looks like a flannel, which they're usually warmer.

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Speaker 2: But really I thought it was like a dnim shirt.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, I I I like like that date. I would have much I would have much more fun like foraging for mushrooms than I would bungee jumping. Like I actually like the date, and we you know, they they bring on the girl Scouts for for the comedic relief, and we were actually seeing more of my sleeper in the top four. Who is Tanner Who's doing We're starting to see more his personality in his interviews, and I will say that Brandon him this was the first time. He may be extremely anxious when he was eating the random shit he was forging. That's just solid. Yeah, crazy to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm super happy we're seeing more of Tanner because he was giving some really good interviews this episode that were making me laugh. But I feel like we're seeing that like contrast between Aaron B and Braiden a lot and on this date, Like AARONB is someone that's taken this whole thing super seriously and like this date was so different, like he took it really seriously. Braiden, on the other hand, is taking almost nothing seriously and he's standing up there eating these radishes that he's yanked out of the dirt, Like eh, Braiden, like what are you doing? And Tanner was killing me when he was like Braiden, do less man, Like yeah, the goal of this dude was not to eat the food. Like if I'm her, I'm like, I'm not making out with you after that, Like you have straight up dirt and bugs in your teeth.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Aaron B and Braiden, their intentions and the way they go about everything needs to just be morphed into one.

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Speaker 2: Because somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Aaron B. Takes everything wildly serious and Braiden doesn't take anything serious. And it's like, if you guys just just tamed it back just like two notches, he'd be great, Like it would be.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, they're just two very extreme people, and I there's nothing wrong with that. I just think that's really why they don't get along. I think that's a big part of it. But did you catch the charity called Brandon Dumb?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was.

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Speaker 2: So I like not to be be into Braiden, but I just thought that was funny because she obviously likes Braiden, but she was like just messing around with these like little children.

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Speaker 1: And regardless of what people want to say about Braiden, he definitely has a sense of humor. Like the guy does have a personality. I just think he he just needs to chill a little bit. But he would.

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Speaker 2: Probably not eat unwashed vegetable. Well yeah in the forest, like he's eating mushrooms like these could be poisonous, you don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also extremely dangerous. I'm surprised they even let him do that, but so stressful. So Aaron B. She ends up picking Aaron B. For the Kissing Tree have like a nice makeup. I'm just not buying Charity and Aaron B on that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I feel like they have a strong conc I really really did buy them after the first day, and I do think there was a strong connection there. I think it's just hard because we haven't seen the progression of their relationship. Like I'm just waiting to see someone on one time with them that like really feels like they're connecting, and maybe they are and we're just not seeing it, and we are just seeing Aaron B talk about Braiden a lot. But it's hard for me to like follow their love story and feel like it's serious, Like their relationship is getting serious, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Undred percent? And I feel like watching it now, like like it's hard to take Aaron B out of like he because he kept calling himself her protector. So for me, it's hard to like it's almost like he's he's giving me like older brother vibes, and it's just hard to see like any any like true like romance in that. But I don't know, maybe it maybe as time goes on, well we'll see that.

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Speaker 2: And like that can be like a romantic gesture to other people, you know, like being protective over each other.

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Speaker 1: But it's just yes, she could be into that too.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you right now. I think it could change moving forward if we see like if they get another one on one or something. But right now I'm also struggling to see like where their connection's at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we see so then Charity walks in after the date, all the guys are sitting there, and this is when she pulls Braiden and has that has that one on to one time with Braiden. He talks about I packed his he packed his bags twice and at this point, like I've I'm and like I said, like we have Braiden on this podcast. I like him, but at this point, he just like he just can't be there, Like he just doesn't he doesn't want to be there. And he's clearly like I I'm not saying that he's not into Charity, but clearly she's just not the one for him because he's just like kind of not willing to go through this process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I think they did and like eat, like I think they had a connection the whole time, but it's not going to work because this process is not easier and natural really for anyone. I would say, so you have to be willing to like really try and lean into it. And like I can relate to Braden a little bit, like it felt super uncomfortable for me at times, but like I had a connection with the lead on my season, So you lean in and you try to like see if that can go somewhere. And I feel like he was just so resistant, and I think it got to a point where she was also just like this is not going to work for us here, like you are not giving it you're all, And he was like, I can't give it my all because this is so weird for me, and it was just like it was just not a fit. Like I think it's for the best that they went their separate ways.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's unfortunate too, because she expresses in her interview like it's so aggravating, like he doesn't even know, like he's he's one of the guys, like he's one of the main guys I want here, and yeah, it's like I don't know when you're going down to the bit.

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Speaker 2: She really tried. I think she really tried to help him to make it work because I think she was into him, and I think this episode we really just saw him reach his breaking point with all of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Brandon leeves and we know once he leaves it's not gonna be It's.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised I thought that was it. I don't know why. I really I really felt for his exit as a permanent exit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I uh yeah, I mean probably me too. But then, like, I don't know, I felt like we saw certain things in like the up the season trailer where I was like, I know he's coming back, that's true. So then she goes back and now it's like, all these guys are great. We got the music playing, the music played with Joey's makeout, which makes me think that a little relationship.

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Speaker 2: Is a little more serious, and her and Joey are very cute together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and regardless of Aaron b getting the kissing Tree, Joey steals the rose. So Joey's up there right now for me me too.

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Speaker 2: I think him and Dawton really shine this episode in terms of chemistry and connection with charity. Yeah, I think we could definitely say those two are going to top four.

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think so. Too, so that's kind of it. Braden leaves, Joey gets the rose, and then I've been waiting for this because another guy on my top four a Xavier, gets the one on one date. And I will say, I think going into this date, I think that Charity was potentially sending him home friend the day. Yeah, I do, I think she I, well, we see it too, because she says it multiple times, like this guy reminds me so much of my ex Yes.

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Speaker 2: And I think and like I don't want to put words in her mouth, but it felt like she was basically being like he gives f boy energy, like he's giving like I'm good looking, and like he's obviously like a catch, like the dude is getting his pH D. He knits he's good looking, like he's got the whole package. He seems to have like some games, some swag.

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Speaker 1: Well, he was definitely like even when they were walking through that market, he's definitely flirting with her a lot, and like like I was almost at a poort where I'm like, exavior, like you're in already stop hitting on her, like you don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he ked like flirting with her and called her like it was as if he was trying to pick her up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: It's a relationship, dude, it's okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you're good, You're good at this point, like like take a step back. But yeah, And I think she felt that too, for sure, because I think he was he was done. In my opinion, he was going home up until the dinner day.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. I wonder, Yeah, I wonder because I think considering she basically said like she had a really bad experience with her ex, saying he reminds her of her ex is not a good thing. Like I think she's like, I don't know if I can get past this, like even if he's not at all like my ex, Like he reminds me of someone who I did not have a good relationship with, and like that would be very hard to get past for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 1: And then we see him open up more about himself, his light, his job, his his mother was diagnosed with MS, which is just so sad and you you just like I, in my opinion, I felt like Charity finally like let her guard down with Xavier during that during that time, and yeah, I think she's I think she really likes him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she likes him too. I think the day portion it kind of looked like it was very like fun and blurty, And I think the night portion he really showed how much depth he has to him, Like he's clearly got a lot of love in his heart for his family and the people in his life. He seems compassionate. He like really opened up and was honest with her and like kind of gave her that reassurance that I feel like she needed to hear from him to get past her hesitation. So I don't know, I like him, like I'm I want to see more of him because up until this point we haven't seen a lot and I did enjoy watching him on the one on one date, So yeah, hopefully we see more.

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Speaker 1: Too. Oh.

00:22:47
Speaker 2: I want to point something out to you because I noticed it, especially on her day with Xavier, and tell me if you notice, and if not, your one hundred percent going to notice it as you continue watching this franchise this season. I feel like every lead, but specifically Bachelorette always have like something they say, like Gabby's was yeah, you know she was like yeah, yeah, charities is no way. She said no way like seven times this episode, Like anytime she just want to do something. She's like no way, no way, like or she's excited, like that is her. That's the girl's catchphrase. So like, take a look next time we do our recap, I want to see if you want if.

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Speaker 1: You see, yeah, now here now I'm want to notice it for sure. I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: You can't once you notice it, Like once I noticed it, which is at the beginning of the episode when they went bungee jumping. Yeah, no way, this is not happening, like that was what she was saying, and then going through the rest of the episode, I couldn't not notice it. But it's it's cute. I like it. I love when they have like little catchphrases.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna pay attention. So she's so Xavier Joey, they're both looking good and then we get to the cocktail party and what does she do. She shows Dot and a baby photo of herself.

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Speaker 3: That's like, like, that's like just like the side of like if I'm if I'm in this situation and I'm Dot and the lead comes up to me and shows me a baby photo of themselves, I'm like, I'm in.

00:24:22
Speaker 2: I always think it's a telltale or a telltale. I don't even know if that makes sense. I think it's telling when the lead goes out of their way to like do something special for one of the contestants, which we've seen her do with Dot and like taking him to like private areas to have conversations, and now she's like bringing little pictures. I just think it makes even more obvious that she's into him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. And then we see her she takes a little this is the first time we actually see her like pull Tanner to the side and he gets a little adventure, a little makeout session, and then I.

00:25:00
Speaker 2: Know Tanner's finally coming out of the woodworks. I feel like we haven't seen him out all this season, and he's like, seems like a great dude. I'm happy to see more of him.

00:25:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if he ends up with Charity. I feel like he's definitely he's given me like a guy that people will will go after and in Paradise, I agree with.

00:25:20
Speaker 2: That for sure.

00:25:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:25:21
Speaker 2: Also, I feel like they were playing like the everything's calm and happy music, Braiden's gone, We're all so happy, Like this montage of chuted interactions. So I was like, Okay, either something is gonna happen, there's gonna be a new villain in the house, or this is the moment we're gonna see Braiden again.

00:25:37
Speaker 1: Yep. And what happens. John b has is the nice guy, he seems like the nicest guy in the house, is having his conversation and watch Braiden.

00:25:47
Speaker 2: Flipflops, like, Braiden, come on like a little if you're gonna crush this cocktail party the.

00:25:54
Speaker 1: Thing with him come But when he came back, I'm like, I hope you're here trying to stay because I want to see it. I want to see it for good TV, and I want to see what she says. Well yeah. Oh. Also, her and John were making out, but Braiden didn't. Braiden did wait till they were done making out.

00:26:13
Speaker 2: Their reaction was incredible. It was so priceless, like he's just standing in the room in the shadows while they're making out. John sees him first, he's stunned, and then Charity saw him, but it's like it didn't fully compute right away who it was, and then she was like oh oh, like oh my god.

00:26:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he but he doesn't really He just kind of says, like, I'm sorry for the way I came off. I was hoping that he was going to try to stay and he is just kind of like, yeah, like I'm sorry for the way I came off. This didn't work for me, and I'm out again.

00:26:47
Speaker 2: So I have mixed feelings about him coming back because on one hand, I get that, like in the real world, if you want to have another conversation for closure purposes, like you have the freedom to do that, Like that's not uncommon for people like after a breakup to like have another conversation, I guess, But in this environment, like if you're going to come back and interrupt her evening with guys that she's still dating, you better have something to say, Like you better be either trying to come back or like have something that you like just can't leave without not saying Like I feel like he basically just wanted to like put a bow on their last conversation, and I was kind of like, I don't know, if I was Charity, I would be like this didn't really need to be had, Like I think he wanted to have the conversation, which I can sympathize with, but like he had to expect it probably wasn't going to go over great, especially with the guys.

00:27:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Charity handled it well. I think the guys like they.

00:27:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, there she was like, I'm like, it's not your fault. She's like, I know, it's not my fault.

00:27:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of I mean, like the guys like yelling at him when he was already on the bus just was like whatever, Like and I know they're aggravated, but it's kind of like, well, he's going, so what's the point of it? Was for me? I did make a note when all the guys were talking. Then he leaves and all the guys are talking and John Be's like, guys, if you don't mind, I want to get the first conversation. And everyone's like yeah, yeah, no problem man, And then and walks Jesse Palmer. He's like, yeah, conversations are done, let's go ceremony.

00:28:17
Speaker 2: I felt bad for John b too, because he was the one that got screwed over the most, Like he's the one who got interrupted like mid makeout with her by Braiden, So he was obviously the one who's like I would like to have a conversation with Braiden like it's kind of between me and him, like I'm the only one that got really affected by this, and the guys like yeah, yeah, no problem man. And then everyone just like was bombarding Braiden to the point where John was like, guys, come on, like this is my combo, Like they were not letting him speak, like everyone just wanted to like let out their frustration on Braiden. Bradge just sitting on the bus like I'm trying to go home. Also, what the heck? It's usually like a black suv. He wasn't a full blown party bus.

00:29:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the party. I was like, where did this party of us come from? Like, why is seeing a party bus?

00:29:09
Speaker 3: It's huge?

00:29:09
Speaker 2: I was like, how many people are in here?

00:29:12
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was yeah I found that interesting. Uh so yeah then that's it. Really we we we ran. John b really got just steamrolled. This episode wasn't the best for him. He didn't get a rose, The cowboy guy didn't get a rose. Michael from Chicago didn't get a rose. All three guys are giving me paradise vibes. So I can't see I think every single one of them will be there and then then we see wee. Any thoughts on the guys leaving or who left made sense?

00:29:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everything made sense. There wasn't any major surprises. I wasn't sure if Tanner was going to stay or go. He was the only one like I couldn't discuss Sean Sean. I don't think they had a super strong connection. I think he thought they had a super strong connect.

00:30:00
Speaker 1: Sean's there still.

00:30:05
Speaker 2: Wait, Oh why I think he went home? So I thought he was going to go home and then he did it.

00:30:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he was not going to get the rose and John B was and she went Sean over John B. Which I feel it was.

00:30:18
Speaker 2: John B, Michael and Caleb. I don't know why. I just thought Sean was in that. Sorry Sean, if you're listening.

00:30:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Sean's uh like, I think she likes I think she really likes Sean. She's she's keeping him around. I don't know.

00:30:31
Speaker 2: I think I think I think she likes him obviously enough to keep him around. But I feel like, I don't know if it's more friend vibes or just like fun and flirty.

00:30:40
Speaker 1: Yet I think it's I think it's fun and flirty. I think she just has has fun with them, and like, yeah, it's probably hard too because a lot of the guys are taking very serious, so he's kind of probably like a breath of fresh air.

00:30:52
Speaker 2: I feel like he's taking it really seriously. I feel like I've heard multiple times and be like she's my wife. Wow, Sean what?

00:30:59
Speaker 1: Yeah? But he also he also just kind of gives me like like he's he just comes across like he's kind of funny, Like I could just see her like laughing and having fun with him. Yeah, they dropped the They did drop the trailer for.

00:31:15
Speaker 2: They dropped like the mid season promo though, like that we're halfway through, like here's what's to come the rest of the season. That's my favorite promo ever. I always get so excited for mid season promos.

00:31:24
Speaker 1: Did I fall for? Doesn't it seem like her ex boyfriend comes back into the picture? Yeah? I just see him now, Okay.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: No, it does. But I don't know. They didn't give any like hard evidence that that is who's coming back, but like the way she's reacting makes it seem like it's someone she doesn't want to see from her past.

00:31:44
Speaker 1: It's probably just her brother.

00:31:46
Speaker 2: I was literally gonna say that. I bet you it's her brother. Like the music is just changing my whole reception and it's literally just Neamyah.

00:31:53
Speaker 1: Don't let the music from the trump from the episode fool you. We fall for it. We fall for it every time, all right. I think I think that could. I think we just recap the episode. I think that wraps it. Anything you think we missed.

00:32:07
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean, I can't believe there's only so little guys left. I mean, what is there seven now?

00:32:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that, which is crazy.

00:32:16
Speaker 2: This season's flying by.

00:32:17
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well that is that is an episode. Make sure to subscribe if you're not already, because we are dropping our exclusive interview with Dotton later this week and we are going to hear more about his story later, so please check it out. Yeah, bye bye