Bearish Sentiment Weighs on Stocks; Ukraine Launches Drone Attack on Russia
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1) The stock selloff moderates around the world as the world's richest lose more than $200 billion since President Trump's Inauguration. It comes as Wall Street strategists like Citi downgrade views on US equities. Investors remain cautious due to concerns about the American economy, tariffs, and government spending cuts.
2) Ukraine launches its biggest attack yet against Russia ahead of talks with the US. Ukraine launched a record number of drone attacks on Russia, with air defenses downing 337 drones including dozens that targeted Moscow. Top US and Ukrainian officials are set to meet in Saudi Arabia to explore the potential for reaching a ceasefire, with the US seeking a clear commitment from Ukraine to a diplomatic resolution.
3) House conservatives get behind a stopgap to avert a government shutdown. The House Freedom Caucus has backed a stopgap funding package, which would reduce and then freeze spending for six months, to help Speaker Mike Johnson pass the bill without Democratic support. The bill's fate is uncertain, with some Republicans, including Representative Thomas Massie, opposed to the measure, and Democrats' support still needed to clear the Senate.
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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.440 Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.160 are the stories we're following today. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.560 Karen, we are seeing stabilization in the markets this morning, 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.360 but it follows another selloff on Wall Street. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:23.320 The numbers are not pretty. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.960 Tech stocks experienced their biggest one day plunge since twenty 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:31.320 twenty two, erasing one point one trillion dollars in market value. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.320 Let's get the very latest with Bloomberg's John Tucker, John 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:35.000 and Nathan. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:38.680 Monday's market plunge came as the Trump administration warrens of 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:43.120 a period of transition and detox for the economy. Economist 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:44.560 Denis Gartman sees it this way. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.360 I think that the economy, no question is going into recession. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.720 The Nasdaq one hundred index plunge three point eight percent. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.920 Amy wou Silverman at RBC is waiting for the other 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.400 shoe to drop. Are we going to get to that 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.680 second tier of fear? The Nasdaq one hundred down twelve 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.280 point four percent from its market high. That's a correction. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.479 The S and P five hundred flirting with correction, down 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.160 to eight point six percent from its record, said only 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:14.320 last month. Max Wasserman at Mira Mark Capital says investors 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.880 are still trying to gauge the impact of the Trump 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:17.639 trade war. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.559 In the meantime an uncertainty. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.080 Who wants to pay thirty forty times for these tech 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:22.959 earnings right now? 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.680 The Bloomberg Magnificent seven Index, an equal weighted gauge of 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.280 the biggest US tech stocks, tumbled five point four percent 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.000 to bring its round from a December record to more 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:38.080 than twenty percent. Tesla alone tumbled fifteen percent, widening its 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.440 lost this year to forty five percent, while Nvidia lost 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.039 five point one percent. That has to raised more than 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.480 one trillion dollars in market value in just two months. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:52.880 The unpredictable terror policies also spurring risk aversion Government bonds 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:57.200 globally their rallying as bents on US exceptionalism start to fade. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.800 In New York On John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.880 All right, John, thank you. What we are seeing the 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.160 fallout from the recent US stock selloff. City Group is 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.720 downgrading its view on US equities while upgrading China to overweight, 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.600 citing attractive valuations, government support for the tech sector, and 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.320 a technology breakthrough that divergence in outlook between the US 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.240 and China is growing, with Chinese equities performing well this 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.520 year while US equities have lost four and a half 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.799 percent so far this year. Well, Nathan. When Donald Trump 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.360 took office on January twenty if, he was flanked by 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.720 some of the wealthiest people. Now new figures from Bloomberg's 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.160 Billionaire's Index show five of those billionaires have lost to 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.600 combine two hundred and nine billion dollars in wealth since 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.079 inauguration day. Elon Musk has been hit the hardest, losing 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.280 some one hundred and forty eight billion. Amazon founder Jeff 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:50.280 Bezos is down twenty nine billion. Google co founder Sergei 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.359 Brinn is worse off by twenty two billion, while Mark 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:58.280 Zuckerberg and LVMH boss Bernard Arnault are both down five billion. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.320 Dollars and those losses Kring Coum is is it in. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.120 Trump gets ready to meet today with the country's top 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.560 business leaders. Mary Nichol is a Bloomberg Markets Live strategist. 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.320 He needs to highlight his pro growth policies heading into 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.800 the Trump administration and after he won. Businesses were actually 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:18.200 quite optimistic about the future given deregulation and what some 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.520 of his policies would be that would be favorable to businesses. 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.800 But businesses are now worried. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.359 They're now worried about the outlook of the economy, they're 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.840 worried about tariff. So he'll need to address these recession 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.360 concerns and that his plans will be more limited. And 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.320 it really is a short lived adjustment period, because otherwise 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.360 you could see this spiral into something even bigger and 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:41.920 deeper losses for the markets. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.800 Bloomberg's Mary Nichola notes that President Trump will meet today 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:49.400 with the Washington based Business Roundtable. Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:53.200 chairs the organization, JP Morgan Chases, Jamie Diamond, and City 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.640 Groups Jane Fraser among the bank leaders on the round 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:56.800 tables board of directors. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.080 Nathan, Now, let's get to the latest on the war 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.680 in Ukraine. In Russia says it shot down three hundred 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.240 and thirty seven Ukrainian drones overnight, including seventy four aimed 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.320 at the capital Moscow. It appears to be the largest 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.640 attack on Russian territory in the three year war, and 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.800 it comes as Ukrainian officials meet with the US and 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.880 Saudi Arabia to discuss ways to end the conflict again. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.680 Those talks are underway right now, but Bloomberg's Greg Sullivan 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.800 reports the US is downplaying anything major coming out of 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:24.320 this meeting. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.440 We saw a Secretary of State Marco Rubio come out 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.719 and say, look, look, we're not looking for a major 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.159 breakthrough here. The US is basically in a position where 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.440 it's listening, trying to see what's possible, especially in terms 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.560 of concessions. He did say that he expects concessions from 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.239 both sides, and that could include territorial concessions from Ukraine, 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.320 which will be quite hard for them to swallow. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.840 And as President Trump pushes for a ceasefire, Bloomberg's Greg 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.240 Sullivan reports he's sending Middle East Envoy Steve Wikoff to 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:55.560 Moscow this week to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin Karen. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.880 Talks between the US and China on trade maybe getting stuck, 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.400 sources tell Bloomberg News discussions are bogged down at lower levels, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.200 with both sides talking past each other on how to proceed. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.560 Officials in Beijing say the US has not given detailed 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.719 steps on what it needs to do about fentanyl to 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.960 have tariffs lift it. President Trump's team says it has 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.680 been clear that it wants China to stop sending precursor 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.400 chemicals to Mexico, to give smugglers the death penalty, and 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.640 to run a front page article in the People's Daily 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.479 newspaper condemning the fentanyl trade. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.480 Well in Washington, Nathan, a stop gap funding bill, or 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.440 clean cr looks likely to pass Congress today and avert 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.040 of government shutdown on Friday. Bloombergs Amy Morris has the 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.240 details from Washington. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.000 The Republicans spending bill is designed to keep government agencies 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:43.520 open through September thirtieth. Representative Don Byer, a Democrat from Virginia, 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.480 talked about the options and the worries that the President 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:51.680 will unilaterally delay or cancel appropriations called impoundment. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:55.320 Unless there are meaningful guardrails to keep Trump from impounding it. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.120 We should vote note in the Democrats in the Senate 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:59.520 and hope with some Republicans of the center. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.279 Virginia Democratic Representative Don Byer on Bloomberg's balance of power. 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.040 House Republicans could pass this on their own if they 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.599 get enough votes from their own caucus, but even after 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.560 it passes the House, it still has to get through 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.640 the Senate. In Washington, Amy Moore as Bloomberg Radio. 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:14.240 Amy thank you. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:18.000 A federal judges rule elon Musk's Government Efficiency Project must 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.279 comply with records demands from a public interest group. The 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:25.240 ruling rejects the Trump administration's position that the office created 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.440 by the president is exempt from US transparency law. The 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.560 decision would mean the Department of Government Efficiency is required 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.200 to disclose emails, memos, notes, and other internal records about 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.320 its operations, staff, and structure. 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:38.000 Well. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.760 Speaking of Musk, as mentioned earlier Nathan, his personal wealth 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.799 has taken a big hit recently. In fact, with yesterday's 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.279 fifteen percent decline, Tesla's shares have lost more than half 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.400 of their value since mid December. This morning, Musk is 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.800 getting some support from Donald Trump. The President says that 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.920 he will buy a new Tesla as a show of 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.440 confidence and support for the CEO. Musk, who is now 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.640 the face of the president's efforts to cut the size 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.360 of the US government, responded with a simple thank you 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.400 on x and shares a Tesla there hire this morning 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:09.960 at more than four and a half percent. 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.160 As for some other stocks on the move this morning, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.040 Karen worsh watching shares of Oracle. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.160 They are down almost two percent. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.880 The company reported disappointing quarterly results and gave a sales 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.200 and profit forecast for the current quarter that fell short 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:23.200 of analyst estimates. 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.240 Shares A Delta are down almost ten percent. The airline 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.120 cut its profit expectations for the first quarter roughly by 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.840 half on weakening travel demand. The carrier also said economic 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.960 volatility and concerns of our flight safety have weighed on 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:41.920 the US industry in recent weeks. But it's time now 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:43.720 for a look at some of the other stories making 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.760 news in New York and around the world. And for 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.960 that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, good Morning. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.720 Good Morning caaren. A federal judge has temporarily blocked the 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:56.560 deportation of Mackmood Khalil, the pro Palestinian activists and Columbia 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.440 University graduate, was arrested by ICE agents over the weekend. 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.760 He helped organize last year's pro Palestinian protests on the 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:09.480 Columbia campus. Meanwhile, hundreds demonstrated in Lower Manhattan Monday to 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.679 protest Khalil's arrest. Demonstrators say the arrest violates free speech 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:18.040 rights and is unconstitutional. At a press conference, Professor Unan 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:23.840 Cohen of Columbia Center's Jewish and Israel Studies compared Khalil's 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.680 arrest to tactics used to detain Palestinians in Gaza. As 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:32.400 an Israeli American, I'm extremely troubled that such practices have 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:36.679 been important to the United States and manifests themselves on 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.520 our campus. Meanwhile, President Trump said the arrest was in 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:45.679 furtherance of his policies against anti Semitism. Israeli negotiators are 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.080 in Cutter and restarting talks with Moss on what phase 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.280 two of the ceasefire agreement will look like. Eighty Alexander 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:57.079 says his son Eden is still being held in Gaza 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.920 and hopes the negotiators will come to a consensus. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.640 We have to be back into the Surboggan and table 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.240 and keep talking and get everybody out as soon as possible. 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.160 It comes as Israel has cut off electricity to Gaza. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.600 Police in Montvale, New Jersey, are investigating a bus crash 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.000 on the Garden State Parkway that left several children injured, 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.320 including one in critical condition. Official say thirty one people 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.640 were on board. The bus was heading to New York 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.000 State when it flipped last evening global news twenty four 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.959 hours a day and whenever you want it with the 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:29.680 Bloomberg News. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.559 Now, I'm Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg Karen. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:39.360 All right, Michael Barr, thank you. It's time now for 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.000 the Bloomberg Sports out Date, brought to you by Tri 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:42.760 State Houdie. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:43.920 Here's John Stanshawer. 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.080 John, good morning, Good morning. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.720 Care of the Yankees hopes for a second straight American 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.040 League Pettant Delta severe blow. Garrett Cole will spend today 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.040 having season ending Tommy John elbow surgery. 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The next coast at all night, they've 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.120 beat z acra Mana one thirty three to one oh 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.520 four to three. Nick scored more than twenty McBride Carling 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.240 Anthony Towns and og Anenobian Brooklyn and next end of 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.280 a seven game losing, the Street beat the Lakers one eleven, 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.199 one oh eight. The Celtics beat the Jazz one four. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.840 John Stashley that we're Bloomberg Sports. Karen Lincoln. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.920 Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Sirius XAM 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.880 and around the world on Bloomberg dot com and the 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.000 Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:27.600 Good morning. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.280 I'm Nathan Hager, and we are seeing futures bounce back 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.719 this morning from one of the biggest multi day selloffs 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.400 on Wall Street in years. The SMP five hundred just 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.800 yesterday fell two point seven percent, nearing a correction. The 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.000 tech heavy Nasdaq is already there, and many analysts are 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.840 readjusting their bullish views, with tariffs and government spending cuts 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.199 adding to fears that the US could be headed for 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.400 an economic slowdown. Joining us this morning is Baired investment 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:53.360 strategist Ross Mayfield. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.600 Ross, Good morning. Are you changing your view on this economy? 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:58.960 Yeah, I think you have to a little bit. Right. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.199 You come in with and then you take a look 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.439 at what's actually occurring, and you have to readjust the bit. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.040 I wouldn't say that we're in the recession camp yet, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:11.280 but I think an economic slowdown is likely, if only 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.040 because you know, we're at the middle of the late 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.920 point of the cycle and the Trump administration is clearly 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.280 more bite than bark when it comes to the tariffs. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.079 So far, so you kind of have to readjust your 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:22.640 priors for what growth could be. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.680 Now, what do you make of the selloff that we've 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.480 seen over the last few days, this eight point six 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.800 percent plunge in the S and P five hundred in 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.119 just the last few days. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.880 Yeah, I mean, I think the first obvious thing is 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.120 to look at the economic growth scare, the potential for 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.440 tariffs and broader and wider tariffs and previously we're expected, 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:43.840 and then also look at well, you know, the set 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:45.640 has the dry powder to come to the rescue, but 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.320 are they going to be willing to if they think 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.439 tariffs are inflationary? So all that makes sense, but then 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.319 you have to look at the driver of the selloff 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.600 and look to the mag seven and kind of wonder 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.040 how big Tech is caught up in any of that. 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:01.559 I mean, they're largely economic growth agnostic, they're not particularly 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.800 tariff sensitive, So what's driving that? I mean, you could 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.520 say valuation, You could take a look at the Japanese 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.679 yen and see the rise there, and look at the 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.800 carry trades all off we saw last August, But the 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.320 reality is it's probably just a combination of all the above. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.199 A bad moment for markets. But a healthy correction that's 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:19.800 going to reset sentiment a bit as well. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.360 Does that point to a buying opportunity for the tech 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.120 stocks that had been fueling the rally for so long? 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.559 I think it totally depends on time frame. I mean, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.360 technically they look pretty broken, or at least most of 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:34.160 them do. But over a one plus year time horising, yeah, 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.640 would I would still be adding to secular growth themes 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.680 like AI. I think if we're hitting a period where 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.439 US economic growth is coming back to trend and we're 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.400 still in this higher for longer rate environment, I want 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.120 to be buying the high quality companies that are still 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.880 bringing their own kind of growth themes to the table. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.000 I still very much think AI is one of those. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.640 Over the next half decade decade plus, you just have 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.520 to have the time horising to ride out what could 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.280 be more weakness in the near term. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.320 Talking about timing, we heard from Kevin Hassett over at 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.320 the White House saying that he expected a negative first 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.760 quarter with tariffs and President Biden's policies, but he says 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.720 the second quarter is going to take off with tax cuts. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.440 Should investors be pricing that in? 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.360 You know, I do think that the potential for tax 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.520 cuts has been pushed to the back burner. You know, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:26.160 the first Trump administration, this this calculus was reversed. We 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.720 got the tax cuts. In twenty seventeen, markets had one 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.400 of the best and kind of calm mist years in 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.200 recent memory, and then twenty eighteen was very valid on 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.760 the back of the trade war. I mean, look, if 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.720 we got to the second quarter and a lot of 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.880 the trade and tariff policy was at very least settled, right, 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.880 I do even think that most companies would be fine 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:49.240 with tariffs or you know, some level of import duty 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.360 if they just knew the rules of the game and 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.320 then could move on to focus on the things about 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.120 the Trump administration that they liked so so much in 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.920 the you know, immediate post election euphoria, which was deregular, 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.400 the potential for tax cuts, lower energy prices. So if 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.160 we could just get some tear of certainty and move 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.040 on to the second quarter, I think the market would 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:08.960 welcome that for sure. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.280 In our last thirty seconds, really interesting call from City 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:16.080 Group downgrading US stocks raising China to overweight. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:17.440 Is that the right call? 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.800 I mean, that's certainly the momentum trade right now, You've 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.480 got a lot of momentum behind Europe and China, and 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.200 you're losing momentum in the US. But I still think 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.400 over a one plus your time horison. If you're thinking strategically, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.320 US is where the economic growth is and so far 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.440 most of them move up across the seas and at home. 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.800 Down is about valuation and not relative earnings growth, So 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:39.760 I with them. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.720 This is Bloomberg day Break, your morning podcast on the 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.320 stories making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.960 Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.400 Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, or manywhere else you listen. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.480 You can also listen live each morning starting at five 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.120 am Wall Street time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:02.160 in New York, Bloomberg one in Washington, Bloomberg ninety two 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:06.040 to nine in Boston, and nationwide on serious XM Channel 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:06.880 one twenty one. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.040 Plus listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business app 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.840 now with Apple CarPlay and Android Atto interfaces. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.120 And don't forget to subscribe to Bloomberg News Now. 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