Housewives Gone Wild + RHOP Colorism Concerns

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Speaker 1: It's important that we talk about colorism. And as much as we love shade and reads and all that, you gotta, you gotta use your platform.

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Speaker 2: Ooh.

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Speaker 1: We have so much more exclusive interviews coming for you guys this season, and I cannot wait to share it with you. On this episode of Reality with the King, we are going to get into the alleged incident ha ha with Brandy Glanville and Caroline Manzo during the filming of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip Season four. Now, y'all know I touched on this a little bit last week's episode with Jacqueline Loreita, where I did ask her how Caroline was doing and child Jacqueline said she wasn't doing good at all.

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Speaker 2: This incident has been.

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Speaker 1: The headlines these past few weeks, and we're going to get into a baby but before we get into that alleged assault. This this incident has been the headlines these past few weeks, and we're going to get into it. But before we get into this alleged assault, let's get into this Real Housewives of Potomac Reunion Part two, because I have a lot to say and child, some of y'all may not like it. My plan was to give you, guys my user recaps that you know, we talk about the good stuff, the fun stuff, and all that.

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Speaker 2: One thing about me, I can't hide how I feel.

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Speaker 1: I can't sit up there and be mixed spaces and not feel the need to address myself.

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Speaker 2: I keep it all the way real.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get right into it, and this may not be a fun episode because I'm pissed off and I'm very disappointed with what was displayed on the Real Housewives of Potomac Part two reunion.

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Speaker 2: I am disgusted to raise.

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Speaker 1: The topic of colorism and to give it two minutes to talk about is a disgrace to the black viewers. Let's talk about it. I don't care who I fan. You can unsubscribe and follow like me. That goes for everybody involved, the cast, the crew. At some point you have to stand up for what is right, regardless of the consequences. And when I saw display on that stage night was some bullshit. How dare you sit up here and given a topic of colorism two minutes to a cast full of black women. This program is watched by black viewers. I don't care about me and throwing a drink. I don't care about the lies about Wendy's sleeping with Peter Thomas allegedly.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about none of that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sick and tired of black people who are in white spaces not having a discussion to shift and change the narrative. What is the fucking point of being on television with all of those eyeballs If you're not gonna sit up here and have a real, yep conversation about colorism.

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Speaker 2: That affects the community.

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Speaker 1: So when it was brought up that okay, well, we asked the ladies if they wanted a moderator and they say no.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm cool with that.

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Speaker 1: I would have said, you know what, we don't need a moderator. But with all due respect, Andy, we would like for you to leave the stage so us black girls can have amongst ourselves so we don't feel like.

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Speaker 2: We're in front of mister Rogers in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: Go backstage the way you left your stage for Nicki Minaj. We would like for you to leave and let us black girls have a real conversation and not feel the need to sit up there and feel like we're talking to you know each other in a very reality style way.

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Speaker 2: That's what I.

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Speaker 1: Would have done as a cast member, and that's what I would have done as an executive producer of the show. Nevertheless, can this brought out her iPhone and rather definition, which is great.

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Speaker 2: Y'all sit up in and argue so much much about.

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Speaker 1: Uterisks, taxes not being filed, but when it's time to show how educated, because y'all lot to talk about the HBCUs, y'all went to so Let's see the education, Let's see the intelligence of the conversation. Do I think the cats are color risks. I don't think they are conscious of it. I really don't think they're believed that what they're doing is a result of colorism. It is not a coincidence that the black women who are being isolated on Potomac have always been darker skinned women. It's something that subconsciously these women have that they're failing to recognize amongst themselves.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I'm angry, because that should.

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Speaker 1: Have been a conversation that at this point maybe should have been a moderator. I would have said, I believe that you guys are so rooted in your life skin privilege that you don't know that subconsciously, when you are targeting these darker skinned women, you're doing it possibly because of what you were experiencing in your childhood. Candace, Monique, Wendy, all three have been isolated to a degree. Chares was at some point, but because Chares has more money than all of those ladies combined, they have no choice but to bow down MEA throwing a drink on Wendy's the first example of y'all truly don't know that subconsciously, y'all have a certain ideology about black women.

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Speaker 2: With African features.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing Kenya Moore experience on Atlanta. It's Kenya Moore a villain on the show. Okay, yes, but Mia isn't Kenya Moore. May have scooted two d Kim Phil's that is from her seat, but she didn't throw a drink at her and y'all read Kenya fourth filth. Mia throws a Cosmopolitan from Carrie Bradshaw's drink of choice on MIA's face and y'all be like, yes, miss.

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Speaker 2: Me, honey, yes you did that girl.

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Speaker 1: So when Candace said on my podcast that she believes the audience's colorists too, yes, I believe everyone needs to look within themselves to an earth the sheer possibility that there could be some evidence a subconscious colorism that they may not recognize. It's not a coincidence that Monique, Wendy and Candice have been isolated light skined privilege? Is Karen Huger having the first sea when she didn't say two words, but Robin was waring and Giselle, how dare you say? Okay, finally we can move on you are the granddaughter of a civil rights activist. Your name holds weight in the community of activism. What is more important than to really have this conversation. You guys are black people in these white spaces. It is your fundamental job as a black person when you are in a white space to educate those who may not know. I had Meghan McCain on my show. Me and Meghan had a conversation about it. I launched my first episode of Reality with the King with Ebney k Williams discussing being the first black woman on New York Housewives.

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Speaker 2: It was no question me.

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Speaker 1: And my executive producer at the time, Jasmine Heinley Brown a black woman, my producer, Sierra Spragley Rix a black woman, because the first episode of my podcast was supposed to be about the greatest Housewives of all.

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Speaker 2: Time, the three of us, three black people.

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Speaker 1: After we taped Ebany's interview, we had a production meeting and we all collectively agreed, it is more important to launch your podcast with Ebany's interview because it shows that Carlos King isn't just this gay whimsy call yes hoodie, you know, reality fan, the King of Reality TV.

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Speaker 2: All those things we all collectively.

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Speaker 1: Said, we can really launch this podcast by having substance. I'm an openly gay black man, and if you are a fan of mine as a white person, then you need to see all sides of me. So I said, okay, final say, we are going to launch Reality with the King podcast with Evanie K Williams interview and the rest was history, because that's what you do as a black person in white spaces. You sit up there and you stand ten toes down on your fundamental belief. When I hosted The Bell Collector Reunion last season, we had the top of colorism on the show. I never have kids on my reunions really, but we had Gucci and JJ's kids on because they had a conversation my colorism. Angela Dugan, she's the VP of development and programming, a black woman, said we need to have a conversation my colorism. We had a two part Bell Collector Reunion. We were running behind. When you are running behind, you have conversations about like, Okay, let's lose this segment.

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Speaker 2: Do we need this segment? Well, they kind of touched on that earliest. We don't need it.

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Speaker 1: There was a conversation about, okay, do we lose the kids from the segment. Angela Dugan said, absolutely not. We need to talk about colorism. She said, this show is taped in Jackson, Mississippi, and it's important that we talk about colorism because in the South.

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Speaker 2: Listen, colorism exists all over the world.

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Speaker 1: Right, not only was it a topic on the show, but it's a topic around the world, but in the South is a It's a big topic.

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Speaker 2: Child. I don't cry on my podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting emotional because when you are surrounded by people who care, and and that's why I'm getting emotional. Because Angela cared. She said, no, we're not gonna cut this segment. No, we're gonna We're gonna keep it. We're gonna keep it because it is important. And as much as we.

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Speaker 2: Love shade and reads and all that, you.

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Speaker 1: Gotta you gotta use your platform. She said, Carlos, you're a black man and you're hosting the We're not coming to this segment. I am not on this platform of being the king of reality TV and all this stuff, not to do nothing with my privilege. So for you guys to reduce an important conversation and discussion to two minutes and to laugh it off and to not take it seriously was a slap in the face to the black audience, the black consumer, and to the white audience, who now is going to look at us and say, child, they don't take nothing seriously. We had a four parvar union about Erica Jane and Tom Gerardy's alleged situation.

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Speaker 2: Four parts.

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Speaker 1: We should have devoted an entire episode of colorism. If y'all want to talk about it, child, We are just getting started. Stay tuned. When we come back from break, we are going to get into the Brandy Glanville of it all. This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. Okay, let's start from the beginning. My good friend Dave Quinn, who you know, is a People magazine editor and friend to the show of Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: He released the exclusive story about.

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Speaker 1: What went down in Morocco on The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip Season four.

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Speaker 2: Y'all know, I know everything.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell y'all everything I know, child, I can't tell all everything.

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Speaker 2: So this's a very small group of people. Well, we have these.

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Speaker 1: Private conversations, and unlike other folks, I don't feel the need to give y'all all the exclusives, because.

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Speaker 2: If I would do that, child, people will talk to me.

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Speaker 1: So I was hearing what was going down in Morocco, and it's funny because I was reading on the Twitter all of these assumptions people had, like, oh, there was a big physical altercation between Caroline and Brandy. Oh my gosh, Brandy brought up Dina Manza and Teresa and that's what's set them off. And the whole time I'm reading this, I'm like, y'all don't even know that. Ain't even the tea. So look, I am a journalist, Hey, poorscha, Yes, I like to cite sources who are credible, because just because someone lies your DMS to give y'all tea anonymously, y'all run with that narrative for likes and clicks. We don't do that at Reality with the King. So once again, if you hear it out of my mouth, then you know that it's the real deal. So my good friend Dave Quinn, who, by the way, anytime Dave reports something is the truth, because Dave Quinn from People Magazine is a credible source.

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Speaker 2: He's a journalist.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So they're taping real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip season four. So the cat consists of Eva Pedra, Vicky Gobleson, Gretchen, Alice McCord, Brandy Glanville, Caroline Manzo, and Camille Grammar. Okay, that's a cast, break cast, right. I can't wait to see Alice in Core.

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Speaker 2: I love some Alex.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, you know those trips filmed for like seven days because you're shooting twenty four hours, so you don't need more than seven days for a couple of episodes on Peacock. So, Dave Quinn is reporting that, according to sources, what happened between Brandy and Caroline is Brandy allegedly was trying to make out with Caroline. Look, Brandy's a good time, Brandy is very flirty. Brandy has admitted to being bisexual. Brandy likes men women, Brandy is sexually free, She's a scorpio. Anyways, according to People magazine, Brandy was trying to make out with Caroline multiple times and Caroline wasn't having any of it. Now, look, I know Caroline Manzel personally. I worked on the Housewives of New Jersey seasons one and two. I know Caroline Manze very very well. The theme with Caroline is. She's good TV. And Caroline gets good television. Like I enjoyed working with Caroline because she gets it, and I want to say this about her, which I don't think a lot of people know this, so I'll say it. Caroline likes to make good TV. She's all about like Carlos, I get it. You want me to talk to Danielle. I'll have the one on one like, I know what that would mean. You want to shoot me driving in my range Rover, cut to Danielle driving her range Rover and then we meet.

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Speaker 2: Up, have spaghetti, call each other clowns and keep it moving. I get it. I know that's what you want. It'll be good TV. I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Caroline is a fantastic housewife. She never gave me any problems. She was always open about what Albi was going through.

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Speaker 2: Lauren and Chris.

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Speaker 1: However, dot com Caroline is also very conservative.

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Speaker 2: Think about it.

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Speaker 1: Remember on Jersey season two when we brought up Kim Okay and Kim D And remember how Kim G was just like the original Golden Girl because the G in Kim G stands for Golden Girl, Like Kim G gave you honey, I'm so rich. I am going to live my life. I'm going to wear a mini skirt. I am going to flirt with the waiter. Like Kim g was all about that, Caroline wasn't about that life. Caroline was said Carlos, I get good TV. I ain't doing all that. So I know Caroline personally to be very conservative. There's a limit with Caroline, just like there's a limit with Lisabanda Pump.

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Speaker 2: It just lines. You don't cross like. They're very conservative women.

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Speaker 1: And Caroline felt that her space is being violated, and she felt that this woman violated my personal space.

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Speaker 2: If you want to get down and eat boxes.

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Speaker 1: Call yourself a postal worker ups because you like a box. Ooh, that's on you sis each to some that ain't me. Caroline felt uncomfortable to the point where she felt she was a victim of her space being violated, and so much so she told the producers like I'm good, and she allegedly made a complaint.

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Speaker 2: To the producers.

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Speaker 1: According to People magazine, the producers spoke to the higher ups.

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Speaker 2: So what that means, guys.

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Speaker 1: The higher ups can mean anybody from the owners of the production company which produces the show, or it could also mean the network executives and because of the sensitive nature of Caroline's complaint, they all made the decision to send Brandy home, and then Caroline went home the next day by her own accord because she wanted to.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that was reported was who side the girls were on.

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Speaker 1: So what we do know is Brandy is very close with Phaedra and Faedra is an attorney hunting Come on, Johnny cochran. But that also makes me wonder if the other girls on the show had a conversation about that from a legal standpoint, and Faedra have the opportunity to, like, you know, give Brandy some adika. Brandy and Faedra are closed. The legalities of this situation is real, and allegedly an investigation is being launched to really get down to the needy gritty of exactly what happened. This is unfortunate and hear me out. We all like Brandy Glanville. She's a great reality star.

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Speaker 2: You cast Brandy Glanville because she is wild.

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Speaker 1: She revealed that her and Denise Richards allegedly had sex. Brandy likes to take things far. Brandy gets good TV. She's a wild card, but That's the other reason why a lot of the Beverly Hills Housewives felt uncomfortable with having her around, because they also understood we get good TV, but they all felt that Brandy goes too far. That's why you haven't seen Brandy as a full time cast member on Beverly Hills. And I think based on what happened in Morocco, it cements Brandy ever coming back on.

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Speaker 2: Beverly Hills Housewives as a full time housewife.

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Speaker 1: But it does beg the question when is too far going too far? I sometimes wonder does that go into her bad behavior on reality TV because she's so desperate to get a check. Her main source of income is doing these reality shows.

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Speaker 2: She's a single mom and she.

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Speaker 1: Needs the money so child there is more developments going on. The New York Post has now allegedly found more information in terms of what went down in moroc Go between Brandy Glanville and Caroline Manzoe. The New York Post is reporting that Brandy Glanville touched Caroline Manzell's breast area and vaginal area over her clothes during one interaction.

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Speaker 2: In the words of Carlos King, this is bad.

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson bad, Lady, God got bad, bad, romance bad, This is bad, and child it gets worse. Multiple sources claim the cast was parting as a group in a private home. They're saying it got so bad that Caroline locked herself in a bathroom. The New York Post alleged that Glanville walked into the bathroom, locked the bathroom door, and allegedly pinned Caroline.

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Speaker 2: Against the wall. Oh Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: Sources claim that Brandy put her hands or Caroline's breast area and vaginal area, and multiple sources corroborate that this actually happened while Brandy. If this is true, this is just it's really bad. They're now alleging that of course alcohol was involved, that there is no video of that bathroom incident that allegedly happened, but that there is audio of this happening because Caroline and Brandy Glamville were miked while this bathroom incident occurred. Allegedly, Brandy apologized to Caroline via a text message and Manzo was moved to a hotel to get her out of the situation. And because of all this, sources are alleging that an investigation was launched. This is what happens when you try to have fun and you get sloppy drunk. Allegedly, this is not okay if this is true. When we look at Brandy Glanville, look, we all say it, she's a fun girl, she's a great reality TV star. But there seems to be this reek of desperation that happens at the hands of these housewives. They behave so badly that they feel like they must do this in order to get camera time.

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Speaker 2: In my years of producing.

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Speaker 1: Reality TV, some reality stars just they're desperate. They're not even thirsty, because I could deal with thirsty. That's how bad some of these reality stars behave because they desperately want to be iconic. And you sometimes have to wonder is this at the hands of the talent, the production or the audience.

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Speaker 2: These are real.

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Speaker 1: Conversations to have, because the audience rewarded Brandy constantly with oh my gosh, she's great TV. We like that she gets sloppy drunk. This is the same woman who slapped Lisa Vanda Pump in the face. When you look at what allegedly went down in Morocco, this is not okay if this is true. And when you look at someone like Caroline Manzo, she's so conservative. I can only imagine what she was going through mentally, because that is not something she even wants to be around with someone pinned her against the wall and touch her breast and vaginal area. When I say to you all, I am speechless at this behavior. And it's one thing to have fun and to say, you know what, I went too far, My bad, I was drunk.

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Speaker 2: Fine.

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Speaker 1: The part that I'm honestly struggling with is the fact that if Caroline removed herself from the situation and she went into a private area in the bathroom, the fact that Brandy, you allegedly would go behind her in the bathroom, close the door, pin her up.

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Speaker 2: Against the wall. What the fuck are you doing? Yo?

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Speaker 1: That is scary for anybody to be in and then to do this in Morocco where the laws are very different. So Brandy, if this is true, you could have went to jail for a very long time. There's nothing funny about this. There's nothing comical about this. But again for me, I keep going back to what is happening with these housewives.

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Speaker 2: I know the money's good.

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Speaker 1: I know that when they lose their housewives job, they have nothing else to do. Ninety nine percent of housewives when they get fired or when they quit, they don't get a second chance. In reality television is very very very rare. And I get that Brandy has two boys. I get that she's a single mom, but is there something wrong with the codependency relationship that she has with alcohol? It makes you wonder if there is something deeper going on in Brandy's mental to where you think this behavior is okay, and maybe Brandy needs to get off of reality TV and check herself into.

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Speaker 2: Getting some help.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, my hope is that Brandy gets the help that she needs. And my hope for Caroline, somebody who I know and love, My hope is that she is okay. Again, this is all alleged, but my hope is that Caroline is safe and it's okay because I don't care if you're twenty, thirty, forty, or seventy. No woman or man for that matter, should go through that some rain drops I want to hear from y'all. Let me know what y'all think in regards to this alleged altercation that has happened between Brandy and Caroline. If this is true, do you all think this is the end of Brandy Glanville and her relationship with the network and Housewives altogether. Let me know, tweet me and make sure you hashtag Reality with the King.

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