Lisa D’Amato: Custody Battles, Headlines, and Her Side of the Story

[SPEAKER_03]: Today, on misunderstood with Rachel, you could tell.
[SPEAKER_03]: You had put out on your story that you were going to be on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: And within twelve hours, I got an email from the family of your ex.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the first time that Lisa is hearing this as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have the same thing I have ever heard in my life, but I'm not surprised at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Friends of ours that went to the party were like, yeah, it was really weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam was watching us, how f***.
[SPEAKER_00]: and the other room and I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, where did you go?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I was dropped in the bedroom locked in the room and they're like, well, then what was that?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing the whole time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, that's a brilliant question.
[SPEAKER_00]: He held the phone over me while I, he had pulling my P.S.
[SPEAKER_00]: off of me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, I'm going to use this against you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to go over the court document of why you lost custody of the kids, because I do want people to be aware of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: My last question for you is this, if you could say one thing to Adam and his family right now, what would it be?
[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to Misunderstood.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm your host Rachel, you could tell.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I should tell you, I'm really excited for you guys to hear this episode today.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, sometimes the headlines just don't tell a story.
[SPEAKER_03]: They really tear a life apart.
[SPEAKER_03]: And right now, Lisa Demato is living through that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You may remember her from America's next top model, celebrity rehab, or even possibly marriage boot camp.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's been on our screens, she's been labeled, and she's been judged.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the headline she's in today aren't about TV or modeling.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're about her family, her children, and a cutesy battle that's turned deeply personal and painfully public.
[SPEAKER_03]: Before we get into today's conversation, I do want to acknowledge something.
[SPEAKER_03]: The half of the Friedman family reached out to me ahead of this interview, sharing their concerns and providing translations of court documents from Portugal.
[SPEAKER_03]: The documents describe very serious allegations and complicated custody issues.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to be clear, I am not here to act as a judge.
[SPEAKER_03]: I cannot independently verify every detail in these documents.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I do think it's important to acknowledge that this is part of Lisa's current reality.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why I wanted to give her the space here to share her side of the story in her own words.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why Misunderstood has always been about not deciding who's right or wrong, but giving people the chance to speak for themselves when they're lies and choices are being filtered through everyone else's lens.
[SPEAKER_03]: So today Lisa joins me to talk about the headlines, the accusations, and the experience of seeing her most private struggles turned into public spectacle.
[SPEAKER_03]: But more than that, she's here to remind us that behind the headlines is a woman, a mother, and a human being fighting to be understood.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa, thank you so much for joining me today all the way from Portugal and I understand.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, thank you for having me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am so appreciative.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: So before we start, I just want to say how funny it is, how we got connected.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have been chasing down Heidi Fleist forever to do my show and she's always been so gracious.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, Oh, I'm going to do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me a month.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me a month.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I saw that her biopic is now coming out.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been cast and super excited for her.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so she's like, give me
[SPEAKER_03]: three weeks a month because i have to do some stuff with the documentary or whatever she's like in the meantime i know someone who's really misunderstood and she gave me your number so i thought that was a very interesting way that we got introduced and i'm very happy to have met you we had a great conversation last week and i felt it was really important to get you on you've been in the headlines
[SPEAKER_03]: For a long time, but we've been in the headlines a lot in the last week, especially.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought that it was very important for you to come on and be able to have your own voice because the narrative has been told from a media's perspective and also from your ex's perspective.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I thought it was really important to hear from your perspective.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate
[SPEAKER_03]: the the opportunity more than anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: So in preparing for this, you had put out on your story that you were going to be on the show and within twelve hours, I got an email from the family of your ex.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought long and hard about this, but I've decided that I'm going to read the whole email because I want our listeners to really understand.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not a show where I take sides.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to be neutral so that you can really represent yourself.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to represent his side and just get it out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's no he said she said.
[SPEAKER_03]: So everybody like bears with me for a minute while I put on my glasses and I'm going to read the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and this is the first time that Lisa is hearing this as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, here we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is what it says.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is written from April Friedman's account, who is the account of your ex's mother, but we're not sure that it was written by her to be fair because it just is signed from the Friedman family.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, dear Rachel and team, we are writing on behalf of the Friedman family regarding your upcoming episode featuring Lisa DiMato.
[SPEAKER_03]: We feel it is our duty to share critical information before the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Over the fifteen years we have known Lisa, she has shown erratic and dangerous behavior.
[SPEAKER_03]: She caused physical harm to family members, including striking April Friedman, the mother, our eighty-three years old, resulting in head trauma and kicking her partner, which led to a blood clot in his leg.
[SPEAKER_03]: Both required emergency medical attention, while she laughed about it on social media.
[SPEAKER_03]: She has a clear threat, and we can no longer remain silent.
[SPEAKER_03]: The trauma she has caused the children is too painful to describe.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you want to respond, just give me a minute, because that must be killing you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa continues to manipulate narratives with lies and deceit.
[SPEAKER_03]: She is active only on only fans to further sexualize and exploit herself while falsely claiming her husband Adam forced her into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Her sister Amy has publicly spoken out about her lies and deceit as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa has blocked her entire family including her mother, sister immediate family from connecting with her tearing apart relationships within her own family.
[SPEAKER_03]: She took her father to Portugal for healthcare, yet rarely sees him leaving him isolated while preventing her sister from maintaining contact.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa has also attacked public figures like Tyra Banks with relentless cruelty and now she targets Adam.
[SPEAKER_03]: Over the years she has abused substances, exhibited psychological instability, and acted destructively towards her children, which led to losing full custody and outcome rarely issued without severe cause, especially to mothers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Adam is effectively a single parent raising their children in a foreign country, navigating ongoing legal battles while protecting them.
[SPEAKER_03]: The court verdict here is translated in English, this is on the link, which I've read and I will explain that after.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa has neglected all financial responsibilities refusing to pay for child care and education and freely traveling throughout Europe.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have been picking up the pieces to ensure that children are safe and secure.
[SPEAKER_03]: She has used GoFundMe funds to support lavish travel expenses.
[SPEAKER_03]: to Paris and all over the world, while her actions have caused immense hardship for her family.
[SPEAKER_03]: To add to the lies of manipulation, Lisa has falsely claimed that Adam sexually abused her, which is completely untrue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Friends and past partners of Adam can attest that he has never harmed a woman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Last year, she brought a gun into the situation and threatened to use it against Adam with the children present.
[SPEAKER_03]: She even kidnapped the youngest child than us taking him to a domestic violence shelter, despite no evidence of abuse causing him to miss school and be confined for months.
[SPEAKER_03]: We later learned that a lawyer advised her to do this so it would look favorable on record.
[SPEAKER_03]: She has also tried to claim bruises from pole dancing as marks of abuse from Adam.
[SPEAKER_03]: She is a pathological liar and struggles with serious mental issues and with psychotic breaks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Most recently, she has orchestrated violent attacks against Adam, including hiring individuals to assault him at his home with the children there, leaving him seriously injured, a broken jaw, loose teeth, and broken ribs.
[SPEAKER_03]: While Adam sought protection, Lisa actively created threats to his safety lying about the incidents as if she were the victim.
[SPEAKER_03]: Multiple lawsuits are underway in Portugal and California and this case has been reported to the U.S.
[SPEAKER_03]: Embassy European Commission and other institutions.
[SPEAKER_03]: Documentation including police reports and medical records can be found here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have those.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give it, I'm almost done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Given the falsehood, Lisa spreads featuring her could mislead your audience and expose them to a dangerous narrative.
[SPEAKER_03]: The US media has covered some of these events including evidence here.
[SPEAKER_03]: She sends the Daily Mail, the blast, and a Reddit discussion.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have multiple defamation lawsuits against her underway.
[SPEAKER_03]: and will become public this year.
[SPEAKER_03]: We urge you to carefully review her actions and consider whether hosting her on your platform of misunderstood could inadvertently amplify dangerous misinformation.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are willing to provide full documentation if needed.
[SPEAKER_03]: We urge you to read the comments from the Daily Mail and Reddit to get a sense of the collective view.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa is not misunderstood.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have major players on your broadcast to deserve to be heard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa is not one of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is extremely rare for a mother to live custody of not just one child, but two and for this to be driven by her addiction to drugs and alcohol coupled with domestic child abuse.
[SPEAKER_03]: shows how serious it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is painful to put into words, but the reality is that she is a danger to herself and was a serious threat to the children's safety and well-being to our family and hers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lastly, see a recent post, Facebook post where her sister makes a comment.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for your time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Freedom and family and friends.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of information.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was the same thing I have ever heard in my life, but I'm not surprised at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, before you were sponsored, I want to say one thing for people listening.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not taking aside, but I will say, just because she says it's so and just because I chose to read that to you does not mean that that is so those are her opinions and what her narrative is that her meaning this woman or whoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: The mother, by the way, who's the eighty two who could never write that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: The weather, the mother, this district or the lawyer, Adam himself, whoever, somebody wrote this on behalf of the family.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I will say take this with whatever it's worth, but this is not a court of law.
[SPEAKER_03]: These are not documents.
[SPEAKER_03]: The things that they forward me were talking about evidence from the daily mail and Reddit, which is not evidence.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will point out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I did get a court document, which I will translate.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had chat GPT so it's succinct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Read it, understand it, and summarize it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll get into that in a minute.
[SPEAKER_03]: But how would you like to address your response to that kind of an email?
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I just want to state that me staying silent is something that they profit from, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I have evidence from every single thing that I have claimed, like actual evidence.
[SPEAKER_00]: One being in twenty-twenty-two, where Adam told me that if I ever divorced him, that he would make sure that the whole world, even go on television, make the whole world know that he was the one abused, making it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes, I'm just kidding, I would never say that I. But these are the things that he's done through our marriage for a very long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have a video of that, that proves that basically he's doing everything that he promised he would do if I left him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He told me as well that,
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't have me, nobody can.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would say, what do you mean by that?
[SPEAKER_00]: And you'd say, well, I would just make sure that nobody would have you.
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's either mere new or that's it, which also correlates with the same
[SPEAKER_00]: narrative, trying to destroy me completely because I'm not allowed to leave him or his family.
[SPEAKER_00]: His family, I have multiple people have told me that they have paid, tried paying that money to take down my social media, try to pay friends to turn on me.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they have.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have money and they have their narrative and they're going to do everything they can to silence me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another thing that I think is wild.
[SPEAKER_00]: The reason why I lost custody of my kids was a fake allegation that I had a gun, which my house got searched.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got interviewed for three to four hours by the police and I got that picture forensically proven that I was holding my phones.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was all a setup for him to take my kids away from me.
[SPEAKER_00]: He, from the very beginning of the court orders here, he did not comply with.
[SPEAKER_00]: My kids said in the very beginning to the judge that they wanted to be with their mother and their father.
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam did not comply from the very beginning with Sharon custody.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did parent alienation from the very beginning and promised me that if I ever left him, that he would make sure that the kids never want to see me again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's exactly what he's been doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to an abuse shelter here, which is called a path.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was advised by my attorney because I did fell scared.
[SPEAKER_00]: So scared for my own safety.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they told me that I would be safe with Venice and and in the shelter that I also was doing homeschool every day with from the paperwork with the from the school as well as me being their homeschool parent from the very beginning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I taught both my boys how to read.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have never assaulted April.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have never assaulted Adam.
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam has abused me and he has been manipulating me and forced me to do only fans.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are all true and fact.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can even show you his only fan where he's pushing me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even doing a multiple choice on his on his only fan saying, do you want me to double penetration her?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want me to do this to her?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want me?
[SPEAKER_00]: About his wife.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, let's talk about only fans for one second because there was a number of things in there that I wanted to ask you about but only fans is interesting to me because to shame you about doing only fans to make money whether or not he pushed you into it you want to do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like that's how people are making money that's not illegal and to say that you're a danger to your child or children because of it and you're overly sexual there are
[SPEAKER_03]: hundreds of thousands of people that make a living on it and they are not getting pulled into custody battles about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think people really have to take that with a grain of salt.
[SPEAKER_03]: If keep pushing into it, that's one thing you're doing it free will, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who cares?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't think that you need to defend yourself about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my personal opinion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just also want to say from the very beginning when I started only fans, I told Adam I would never do porn and I set my boundaries on top of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I told him that every single penny I wanted to give to abuse struggling women, which I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as soon as this whole thing was over and I was able to move here because he it's crazy how like
[SPEAKER_00]: in a situation how they do exactly what they say that you're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's actual police reports in Los Angeles where I was scared for him to kill himself and me.
[SPEAKER_00]: If anyone wanted to retrieve these phone calls for me to the police,
[SPEAKER_00]: calling on them to help out him with his guns.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's go back for a minute because I don't think people understand this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, in doing research on your story here, I watched clips from marriage boot camp that you guys were on years ago, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Was this like nine years ago?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: How long have you been married by the way?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, we've been married since two thousand twelve.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So nine years ago you guys did marriage boot camp.
[SPEAKER_03]: So did you do it for the money or you did it because you guys were already having some problems.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were definitely having some problems.
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam was already displaying, and it's almost like as soon as we got married, he switched.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a clicked of like control.
[SPEAKER_00]: He started putting, getting obsessed with guns and doomsday prepping, and got an army truck, and then put all these codes to get into the house, to get into this room, to do this, then surveillance everywhere, then surveillance was across my bed, then it was in my closet, then it was here, then I had to
[SPEAKER_00]: three cameras on me, just laying in bed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then I would go do, um, but before we left to Portugal, I'll never forget it because he would always take his phone down for coffee.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would be like, why does he never leave his cell phone, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I remember I pretended to take care of myself when he went and to go get coffee, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Just to see if he was watching me, because I knew that would spawn a reaction.
[SPEAKER_00]: He came rushing into that room in two seconds to
[SPEAKER_00]: Saying he was gonna get coffee.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was on his phone looking to see what I do as soon as he leaves the room.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's all you're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like crazy on me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it started I started realizing that I was actually like in our prison for years and anything that I did I couldn't do without
[SPEAKER_00]: wearing a bulletproof vest like I couldn't go to a friend's house unless he drove me he had to pick me up if I went to a public place that without him I had to wear a bulletproof vest and then I had to deal with the hours of him begging me not to go like maybe I can go with you or maybe this is always so controlling so there's there's that
[SPEAKER_03]: So I will say for people that didn't see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to back you up your first second watching that was very uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_03]: You felt like he had some mental issues.
[SPEAKER_03]: He shows up in this truck like you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's talking about how you're not taking safety precautions the way he wants you to and that you don't get it now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, at his level.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's not like safety precautions like locking a door.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was he was very into this doomsday thing back nine years ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: And for people that don't know what doomsday is, they should Google it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a real thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there are two people that have gone to prison.
[SPEAKER_03]: For life, Laura Valo and Chad Debel, which I've ordered you, because of what's called the Doomsday murders they were convinced.
[SPEAKER_03]: The world was going to end.
[SPEAKER_03]: They had to protect themselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: People were turning into zombies and they had to fight for, you know, their place on the earth.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually really crazy paranoid shit that makes people like looney tones.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and it was very, and it was nine years later, and because I'm coming forward with the abuse that I've gotten from Adam and his family, his family, it's funny that they say that I'm over-sexualized.
[SPEAKER_00]: His mom lives in the biggest swing of resort in the entire world.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have posted pictures of her in orgies.
[SPEAKER_00]: completely knitted at eighty years old.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they even tried to get me to be part of this swinger lifestyle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because I have exposed that I refuse to be part of this and told them how it makes me uncomfortable and I don't like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when Adam started drugging me when they would have sex parties at the castle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I wake up being like, what the fuck is going on?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, even friends of ours that went to the party were like, yeah, it was really weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam was watching us house apps in the other room and I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, where did you go?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I was drugged in the bedroom locked in the room.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, then what was that I'm doing the whole time?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, that's a brilliant question.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a really brilliant question.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I've escaped.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I came to Portugal, it was to be safe.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was to save my dad on a medical level because he has diabetes and MS diabetes medications are ninety three percent covered with universal healthcare and Portugal.
[SPEAKER_00]: The amount of money that that he was making for his care on the United States wasn't covering everything including his assistant living.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a no-done law in Portugal.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I
[SPEAKER_03]: Go back to your dad for one second.
[SPEAKER_03]: What about the allegation that you've abandoned and isolated him?
[SPEAKER_03]: Where is your dad?
[SPEAKER_00]: My dad's right here is taking an app in the room that I'm in.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have him nurse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, if anyone followed me on social media, you'll see that I'm with my dad every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: We play pool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I take them to the beach.
[SPEAKER_00]: We go out and walk.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with my dad all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that maybe where they're getting that is that when my sister who also, like, is not on my side as far as wanting to not accept abuse, my sister and I came from abuse.
[SPEAKER_00]: sexual abuse, physical abuse.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so when I told her about me leaving Adam and running away from abuse, she's kind of normalized it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so she's like, well, you know, just get them back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you don't want to break up the family.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because she accepts it in her life or doesn't have as much of a standard as I do for self love and care and not accepting abuse in my life, she thinks I'm on my high horse.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't care what my sister says either.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, did Lisa cut everybody all of her family out of her life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because they're horrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're Trump supporters.
[SPEAKER_00]: They tried to steal my dad's money.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're just not good people.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I am definitely the black sheep of the family and so is my dad.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't care if people want to use against me that I've taken people out of my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've taken people out of my life for a reason.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's very fair to say for people that are listening that have not experienced something like that or narcissistic abuse from your parents or have that toxic family unit, it's very hard to understand.
[SPEAKER_03]: But as someone who comes from that, I can absolutely understand that where it seems to other people to be chaotic, that is the life that we've been in and to actually cut them out and create boundaries.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very difficult.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it creates chaos around you for leaving.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it creates this chaos because you aim to just live your own life or do better or whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's just chaos going around even just breaking those ties.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I do get that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think people really have to have some empathy and understand if they don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come from that, they have to understand that that is a true thing that does happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's really wild.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird to say that like I was raised by a narcissist.
[SPEAKER_00]: My sister's a narcissist.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then also when you are an empath and how you just attract them and you're obviously you normalize.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess like you weren't scared of narcissistic behavior because you're used to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you accept it more often than you should.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've gone through a lot of therapy just for my childhood like decades of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were on Dr. Drew.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was on Dr. Drew.
[SPEAKER_00]: I learned so much through all the therapy sessions with women's behaviors and women's health and also learning about preventative care of having, I guess, the blueprint for somebody that should be an addict and drugs and alcohol.
[SPEAKER_00]: Had that issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's an easy target for me because I drank on America's next hot model.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like I've said before, most of us in a lot of most of the girls have come out and said that we weren't fed correctly.
[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't we are overworked underpaid just completely mentally manipulated on a
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really horrible scale being exploited with our childhood trauma around the globe.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so as far as these accusations are meeting over sexualized and explain why your family is into sexual, um, swing or cults.
[SPEAKER_00]: Explain that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've tried to escape that which I also proved on social media.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have pictures of his own mother who wrote this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, are you still doing only fans now?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I haven't done it in years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is not something that you're using now to make money or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they can, I know they're going to say this, but I know that Adam's gotten rid of his page where he's only advertised mine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also have all the proof of all the people he's subscribed to, women that are triple apps, and it even put on his front page.
[SPEAKER_00]: He had every, he had every opportunity to take away the amount of money he spent on only fans on other women.
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't, he didn't hide that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you could see how much money he spent on other women.
[SPEAKER_00]: So for these accusations is like through the roof on top of it with me going to my own house.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's here in Portugal.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have every right to be there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's my house.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, let's talk about that, because that's where the latest news in the Daily Mail started.
[SPEAKER_03]: But hold on, before we talk about that, because I want people to be clear, you guys have a rough marriage from the go.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you have been, you've had, you had two kids together, you've been together, you've stayed together, and you have mostly raised, I mean, you've raised these kids together, but you homeschooled them, you've been with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you, my whole life, their whole life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I've always pretended to be sick and like told me he was dying.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he would be in bed for days.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then at night, if you go hang out with this woman in Janay, who you know, I found out does double penetration.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dildo videos and that's how she makes money.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's so funny because that's what Adam towards the end really wanted me to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then I've done he's there every night with her.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this whole narrative that they're painting is so insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: If anyone is trying to save my kids, it's me from this family.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, I want to get into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But so at what point did you say this is over?
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you move with him to Portugal and you guys were still together?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've planted all as if we were going to be a big happy family when we got here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you know, yes, I planned it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I planned to leave him when he got here, but maybe one percent, if I got him, the proper medical help with this fake disease that he liked to manipulate me with and say he was dying, obviously that's fake.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have a job?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, Adam's never had a job.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's just independent of his family's welfare.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's your family's wealthy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've always been the breadwinner.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was always doing entertainment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, that's another thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: April and his family, you know, they were there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's April's never had a job in her entire life.
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing April Adams mom, the only thing she's ever done is she was handed over to Adam's dad and he was into swinging.
[SPEAKER_00]: So her only real
[SPEAKER_00]: job was to just do what a man wants.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's why in their minds, me having this independent way of thinking is something that's just unacceptable because they were all raised with money.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so a woman knows her place, then I wonder about, you know, she also named her kids out of an Eve, like make that make sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think the reason why Eve wasn't held to that same standard as a female is because no offense, but like if you
[SPEAKER_00]: were to compare her to the types of women that men would crave.
[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't really fall in line with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then also because she was somebody that was in their family.
[SPEAKER_00]: So she's allowed to do what she wants, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But if I got married into this family, I need to do what I need to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: The big joke, the whole time I was married to them, was like, why is there no sequel to Cinderella?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, because she's still on her knees, scrubbing the floors, just with a different family.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, wait, what was the straw that broke the camel's back though when you came to Portugal?
[SPEAKER_03]: At what point did you say, I want to get a divorce?
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you file for divorce?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what happened where this all blew up?
[SPEAKER_00]: This is also a whole other thing, once I got to Portugal.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what really got me to when I realized that I just was not safe was this swimmer party that was in,
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a sex party and I desperately did not want to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I told Adam over and over again that I didn't want to participate in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my sister's wedding was actually the next day that I had a flight to Texas.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said it was not going to work out anyways.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, no, you're going to stay.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to stay.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be a part of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the one where I woke up, like completely, I was definitely drugged.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was when our housemates, Benjamin Sarah, who at him also, I have a full video of a full confession of him's doing three hundred thousand dollars from our housemate, one of his best friends.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, well, it's just because I was in a bad mood.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that couple, they've decided to go on their own and have sex and they said that Adam was just watching them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I woke up completely like drugged out of my mind and I think ultimate.
[SPEAKER_00]: When he woke me up, I think he was so turned on by the party or whatever he was doing, he was trying to have sex with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was so out of it, and I didn't understand what was going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was still in the costume that he, because he made me be part of this thing, but then he ended up just driving me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when I was fighting him back, being like, what happened to me?
[SPEAKER_00]: What happened to me?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what happened?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he, I try to get on my phone to see what time it was to see a Benji and Sarah were posting on this party.
[SPEAKER_00]: He grabs my phone.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't love me.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't fucking care about me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's get takes my phone.
[SPEAKER_00]: I try to grab my phone back and then I end up on the floor and he throws me against the rocks.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when it where it really just broke my heart was all never forget, like I wasn't in the right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was coherent.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't, I hadn't been drinking.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had been woken up from this fog.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he had, I'm in the closet and it was a Halloween party.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I had this weird makeup on my face.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he held the phone over me while he had pulled in my pants off of me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, I'm gonna use this against you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will always have this in my phone to make you look like a fucking slut fucking drug addict.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't understand what was happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just so devastated that my husband could do this to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I just like ended up going back to sleep.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never did anything with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was really upset.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Benji, who lived with us, I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Benji, who lived with us who Adam stole all that money and planned it for three years, like hit it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so crazy to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: He knocked on the door and he, um, I'm open the door.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Benji said, still in his Halloween costume.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he says Lisa's going to be late for the airport.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Adam's like, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh my god, my sister's wedding.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got, he got me up at the knees.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, make sure he walks your face, Lisa.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think honestly, he was really concerned about me because I never ended up at the party.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he obviously felt like there was something wrong with Adam.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I got dressed and I ran, I rushed to the airport as fast as I could.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, these wedding pictures are of my sister and me being there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could tell that I had the worst night in my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't wearing my wedding ring because I threw it at Adam that night.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just knew that that was I needed to get out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so did you end up filing for divorce or like how did this so blow up where you're saying he felt like if you left him, he was going to just try to ruin your life.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like how do we get to that spot?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, twenty twenty happened, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I didn't know what to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew I couldn't go anywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew I was stuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had two little boys to take care of.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just focused on homeschooling and with my kids and all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then twenty twenty happened and then I just focused more on.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just felt so good because I had been doing my invention.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go where I had, I got to deal with Marba Corgrin and my product, my kids' product, which is a five-in-one solution to how parents keep their kids on the guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a big thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was mostly focused on all these other things.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you put that kind of behind in your head, but you also know what you're dealing with.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that point, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was focused more on distributors for my business and then homeschooling for my kids and COVID happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just was really grateful for COVID in a lot of ways because I was able to spend more time with my kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, all these red flags happened during the COVID with my dad.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was an assistant living.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought him and RV and Adam helped me and we were just gonna park the RV and because my dad, he leaves.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can't walk, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So he needed a couldn't find space so he can get to the bathroom.
[SPEAKER_00]: The castle's too big.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we got an RV and then I would just bring him up with help to the house and I got him really healthy meal plan so he can make food in the RV.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just a prep him so he had accessibility.
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam also said when I thought for divorce that my dad beats up the children, my dad had one of the police station.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, my dad didn't even walk.
[SPEAKER_00]: How is he beating up children?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I think that's been to this time.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you finally filed for divorce, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: None of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: He dodged it the first time.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also dodged the restraining order.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, hold on.
[SPEAKER_03]: But dodging is one thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: But did you actually go in and file for divorce?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, with my attorney, but then it disappeared.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is the wireless thing here.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many, this whole entire justice system in Portugal is so beyond corrupt.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's money before justice, a thousand percent.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just got a notification for my attorney that it was just filed for her to notify me that I never went to my psychological evaluation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even my team was on the phone with me and with them when I got there, I left it for am.
[SPEAKER_00]: Things are literally just getting taken out of my file.
[SPEAKER_00]: All of my proof of sexual abuse of screenshots of videos about him abusing me of his mom being a sexual deviant in her own
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, uh, uh, what is it called?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll Caliente and Florida, a literal, no joke, swing or resort where they have orgies and a pool.
[SPEAKER_00]: All of this is gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: My whole file in Portugal for sexual and domestic violence and also divorce court just is completely empty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Constantly, even both my attorneys before this new one, I've had two, both have been paid off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it seems that it would be easy enough, though, if you got a psychological exam to contact that place, have them give the record to you, your attorney to anyone.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, that's my mistake.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody can get a hold of anyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything that I say and do gets completely silenced.
[SPEAKER_00]: As far as the recent allegations of obviously this new attorney, you know, I'm trying to do the distribution of assets like immediately.
[SPEAKER_00]: Me, my kids saying that my kids don't want to see me.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's manipulated them.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's never abide by any of the court rulings from the beginning of both.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's basically the court system has ignored my children from the very beginning.
[SPEAKER_00]: They told the judges both of them that they want to be with their mother also.
[SPEAKER_00]: They never thought to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every single time he doesn't follow the rules of the law of what he's supposed to do, he doesn't fall through with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to I just want to go over the court document of why you lost custody kids because I do want people to be aware of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, I've been to your family court in America.
[SPEAKER_03]: It sucks big time in America.
[SPEAKER_03]: I obviously can't speak on Portugal like you can, but it is about the person that has more money.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is also about the person that looks like they have more credibility.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I was done celebrity rehab and I watched as my ex husband's attorney said, well, she's been in really have and she done this, this and this and I'm like, I was paid for a hundred thousand dollars to go and on a show for love addiction.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not an addict like that was insane to me and for them to tell me I was a danger to my child because there was pictures of my child.
[SPEAKER_03]: in like the Daily Mail, for example.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, it's not my problem if a paparazzi gets a photo of me.
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't mean that I'm not protecting my child.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was wild accusations that eventually got dropped and got realized that it was wild and crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when you're going through a divorce, no one likes each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: So people are going to say the worst things possible.
[SPEAKER_03]: And only the two of you know the reality of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I will say,
[SPEAKER_03]: It was interesting because I heard all these things from you before we did this show.
[SPEAKER_03]: After I got this letter and by the way, listen, anyone listening to this will say this sounds like a lot of chaos.
[SPEAKER_03]: This sounds crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's too much hurry to get into the weeds and so I don't know who to believe and I'll just go about my day and I think about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But where I do have the empathy is even more so is that because I understand your relationship with your family and blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The thing is is that the letter they sent me, I did feel because by the way, I didn't read the second email I got was another one essentially threatening me that if I didn't
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, listen, they're sold.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if I, if I went ahead with putting you on my show, they were going to come after me and the people that worked in my show.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I don't know, I responded.
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I don't know who you think you are talking to me that way because you're not even legally correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't threaten me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, about putting her on my show and I'm not like,
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not sure what people they're running into that believe them or that are scared of them or, you know, money, money talks, but you got to have a lot of money to make a difference.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know that they have that kind of money.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think a lot of what may be going on, it's a lot of the justice system is just a mess and I don't know that it's as corrupt and it may be, it may be, but I'm saying there is a possibility that the justice system is a coincidence and it's not as corrupt as you're saying, but it is completely a mess and they just are not taking us serious.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some percent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they don't enforce it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need to do anything that he was supposed to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, I want to go now to understand.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now it's been a year.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I just want to read something because this also I think is important to know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, how do you know that this is the reason why I lost custody because at the time when they took Venice for me, it was based on this picture of this gun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say, I'm going to say it's actually in here because this is the court document that is translated and then summarized.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very quick, but just a people know when this happened, it seems like one child daxle lived with Adam, then it's lived with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that true?
[UNKNOWN]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Both parents accused each other of domestic violence, physical attacks and threats around their twenty twenty three separation, Portugal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Children, both children, were exposed to these conflicts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: The allegations against you is that video evidence allegedly shows Lisa holding a gun at her front door with her youngest child Venice.
[SPEAKER_03]: being beside her, which I will remind people you say it was a cell phone that you say you confirmed you've gotten forensics to prove that it was not a gun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a cell phone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: The gun was pointed towards the father who was off camera, but present with their older child, Vaxel at one point Lisa appeared to place Venice inside the gate with one arm while still holding the gun in the other multiple videos submitted show.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did disputes between Lisa and the father and the children's presence.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: The father and son-dax will report Lisa has emotional outbursts through his objects, drinks alcohol, and performs activity involving only fans.
[SPEAKER_03]: Your side is that you deny holding a gun, you claim it was a cell phone, and you always have.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not a new thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You book use Adam of manipulating the situation, holding, including, excuse me, raising a false alarm at school.
[SPEAKER_03]: You argue that the father Adam locks access to Daxle and asks escalates conflicts that court found here was the findings that Lisa's behavior of holding the gun around the child
[SPEAKER_03]: was extremely serious.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, both parents have issues.
[SPEAKER_03]: Both parents are abusive, but Lisa's aggressive actions and the children's exposure to the gun raise the concerns.
[SPEAKER_03]: And at this point, it seems that Daxel expressed reluctance to be with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then it's, have a problem being with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it says the court says the both children are placed in the father's custody.
[SPEAKER_03]: And your visitation with the children is now supervised by a child welfare supervision team.
[SPEAKER_03]: You must pay child support.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fifty reels per month.
[SPEAKER_03]: How much is that American dollars?
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, this is, he has, I have not gotten one visitation ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says he, he doesn't have money for gas.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says he doesn't, he can't do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't feel good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything that's in there is completely false.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, that's all is the one that had mentioned.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to be with his mom in court, but also he gets in trouble if he says he wants to be with his mother.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, can't you go to E-MAT, which is the child welfare team and say that you haven't had a supervised visit and you want some?
[SPEAKER_03]: Want one?
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody cares.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody enforces anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: No one gets back to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it does say that the court documents say the investigation into domestic violence is still ongoing against both parents.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that anyone's looking into you or Adam still?
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Adam and his family have a really heavy hand in money.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've kind of all done some type of internal investigation.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you listen to that documentation that you just read, it seems that Lisa's behavior is more dangerous the way she was holding the gun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It has been proven that it was never a gun.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that took nine months.
[SPEAKER_00]: for the forensics to go through.
[SPEAKER_00]: So in that nine months, Adam didn't comply with one thing, and then I haven't seen my kids in nine months.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, and I also have video where Adam admits to manipulating the kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says it's not against the law.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's all, I also have video of him saying that he's going to make sure that the kids never want to see me again because I'm not allowed to divorce him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my store managers, they're scared to death of that family because they know that they have zero spine.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have any remorse or any empathy for anybody else but themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, we should all take a moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: And thank them for letting us live in the same timeline as them on earth because if it weren't for them, who knows how our lives would be?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we really need to thank the free men up at the Hollywood Castle and their, their orgy ways and their blood money for just even existing in the same time as them because honestly, they've probably been waiting for this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's go back to what's next?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you expected to be in core?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you talking to your lawyers?
[SPEAKER_03]: How are if what you say is true?
[SPEAKER_03]: How are you going to get your kids back?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm assuming and correct me if I'm wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is the most important thing to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Getting my kids back is the most important thing to me in the entire world.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to save them from this family, knowing that they can go about their business and literally threaten people and pay them off.
[SPEAKER_00]: My managers who I'm sure if you contacted them would make a statement, everyone is scared to death of Adam.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just even that last time I was at the house, which made the Daily Mail and the press and everything, Adam had Docs hold a grenade and told him to throw it in the window of his mother.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do this since I wanted to go back to that because we looked at as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because we we stopped for a second, talked about something else.
[SPEAKER_03]: That Daily Mail thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I went, obviously, I looked at whatever one else has seen if they are caught up with this and I saw the video that the Daily Mail put out, which was a video provided by Adam.
[SPEAKER_03]: And his family, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, there's cameras everywhere all every six every six feet.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a camera in front of the house in the neighborhood somewhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what we're talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just want to say that Friedman sent me the full video.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was two days.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Friday and Saturday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's a full video of a bunch of different things where the headlines are very damaging.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa breaks in and steals a computer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa beats up at him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever the headlines are, so I clicked on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: My assistant, I watched both of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: My fiance came in and he's like, what the fuck are you watching?
[SPEAKER_03]: We all sat down and watched it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will say, and again, I'm not taking sides.
[SPEAKER_03]: The headlines did not match what I was watching.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was no, I watched how you stood in your friends who were with you stood to decide, or I don't know if their friends with the people stood to decide.
[SPEAKER_03]: I watched how your ex husband was, or excuse me, you're Adam, whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was screaming at you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were screaming at him.
[SPEAKER_03]: You both were yelling at each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: He spit in your face.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think tried to grab your phone or there was like some altercation with grabbing something.
[SPEAKER_03]: You came out and you kicked him at some point, but that's because he was like beating up one of your friends.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the point where the video starts that the Daily Mail sees you attacking him, he had already been in an altercation, a very violent like beating up two guys beating each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, they needed to have layers and layers of stitches.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a helmet on, so his head was fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't understand what they were talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're said it lost teeth and it had a concussion or whatever they said in the note.
[SPEAKER_03]: It seemed a little odd to me because if that happened, I can vouch from watching that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was not from you.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was from him fighting the other guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did see your kid.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard one of your sons crying from the window.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was watching and he was up somewhere listening and watching and crying, sounded like the younger kid because the owner kid came outside and was pretty much on his dad's side and getting aggressive with his dad, which again, if you're a proper parent, you want him to go inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I did see that you were just trying to talk to them.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were trying to say it's my house too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, there's a lot of chaos there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And hopefully you want to remove yourself from it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully you say to your lawyers, I'm just trying to get a divorce.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just trying to get away from this guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to get my kids back.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't call your kids on their cell phone or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't let me speak to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: All I get back is messages that he sends to my boss friend or to this person or to that person.
[SPEAKER_00]: They screenshot it and they send it back to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: The craziest one is he goes, you think that Venice is also ever going to talk to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes to school and tells everyone that his mom takes butt hole pictures and gives the money to strangers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh God, we're still on as early fans.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's its insanity, but for the record of the Daily Mail, that day, we went there because he had confirmed that he was out of town.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have every right as far as the laws concerned.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's two houses.
[SPEAKER_00]: He rented out both of them illegally without my signature.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a huge, huge tax evasion, first of all, in Portugal.
[SPEAKER_00]: So because the kids weren't gone, I was trying to get into one of my houses, which I have every right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just showed up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And while I was in the house, I realized that Venice was left alone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another criminal offense leaving an eight year old by himself in the house.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's also probably why he was crying.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to console him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was asking him why he was left alone.
[SPEAKER_00]: The house was disgusting.
[SPEAKER_00]: My son looked disgusting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then this is the outcast of Adam and my oldest son, Doxel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam has trained Doxel in his doomsday prepping ways to be overly paranoid to learn Doxel I think knows how to pick like eighty locks at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's taught him how to train in all types of guns, train in him and all types of arsenals and different types of weapons.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what's interesting about it is that they try to pin you for having a gun, where it's very clear that he has an obsession with guns and has a lot of guns.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what's in your behalf.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will say Lisa, you know, the court, I'm looking at what the, the court's bottom line thing was that they really did not like the parental alienation.
[SPEAKER_03]: So once you get in the court,
[SPEAKER_03]: You need to show obviously your forensic paperwork about the gun.
[SPEAKER_03]: You need to also show that now you are being alienated and you're being prevented from seeing your kids.
[SPEAKER_03]: What would you say is the most misunderstood thing about what about you and what is going on?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, for one, when I went back into the house to kind of save my life, because my dad and I have both been bullied out of our houses.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now he's taken my kids away from me and he's done everything that he promised me he was going to do if I left him in twenty twenty two.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have all the evidence in mass quantities.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has zero proof of anything of these accusations.
[SPEAKER_00]: If that letter from his family says that I have been delusional, have an addiction all these years.
[SPEAKER_00]: His mom and Adam have been to rehab more times than I ever have.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mine was on television like yours.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was preventative care.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was for
[SPEAKER_00]: The educational purposes of it, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: His mom has a severe addiction to X and Oxycontinues.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just on a side note, though, because I want to say this, I think that it's difficult.
[SPEAKER_03]: Your credibility gets questioned because you've been to rehab because you've struggled, I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, would you say you've struggled with addiction?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you an addict?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I've ever struggled with addiction.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so the the misconception is that you are an addict whether at you party you did whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's a conception like people think that you're you have a
[SPEAKER_00]: was a backbone to that evidence, like where?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was, when I was twenty, this is a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: If people are still holding on to this idea, when I was a performer, electro rapper, and I was on TMZ, rapping at a red carpet, and then I was on celebrity, have a doctor drew, I was in my twenties.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they're still holding on to this, and the only thing that I was shown on social media or anything, publicly, is that I'm an athlete, I'm an aerialist,
[SPEAKER_00]: I eat really healthy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I cook amazing meals.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do recipes all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I homeschooled my kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was on social media this all these years just showing them how I love my boys.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been a doing wife this entire time.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's it's still hold on to that is just showing the insanity of actual society.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that has got to just hearing you say that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And let's take that for face value because that's what you think and that's what you say.
[SPEAKER_03]: That makes me really sad for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You are not these things that you're being accused of and you are sitting through life right now waiting and living in this chaos because you need to get your kids back, you need to prove yourself, you need to get custody, you need to get your homes back, you need to get a divorce like all these things and you're just floating through this chaos and you can't really get your life started and that makes me really sad for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's really sad that I'm me sticking up for myself and trying to create a safer place for me to grow and thrive for my kids and for my dad has actually destroyed my life because Adam has proven to do everything that he promised he would do knowing that he married somebody that had a
[SPEAKER_00]: like bad PR back in the day or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: He knew he could use that against me later and he threatened me with that this whole time.
[SPEAKER_00]: The craziest part about all this too and the headlines, the latest headlines, is when I went back to the house to get everything that legally I'm allowed to have.
[SPEAKER_00]: He stole my purse, which had my keys, my credit cards, my passport, my ID, everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no car.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to go get an emergency passport.
[SPEAKER_00]: He infiltrated the security cameras of my business.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to go run back to my business and save it.
[SPEAKER_00]: My previous store managers were threatened beyond belief.
[SPEAKER_00]: He told them that if you guys stand in the way of me ruining Lisa's life, I will ruin yours too.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's telling you that they will ruin your life.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you help me, that's what they do.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is they literally gave you the blueprint of everything that I'm trying to fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's how dumb I don't know why, you know, and they're not like Tom Cruise and by the way, even if they were Tom Cruise, there are people that will stand up to Tom Cruise.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: These are a bunch of people that I'm not threatened by and I don't know why anyone else would would be.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I just think it's that to me is
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, because no one is in the right here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, you shouldn't have argued in front of your kids, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: He shouldn't have spit on you.
[SPEAKER_03]: He shouldn't be arguing.
[SPEAKER_03]: He shouldn't be prepared to be other man or kid.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, that wasn't spit.
[SPEAKER_00]: He won't.
[SPEAKER_00]: He told me when he did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, this is the blood of another man and spit it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Try to spit it in my face in my mouth.
[SPEAKER_00]: He saved all that blood in his mouth from a guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't hear this in the headlines.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody was violent besides him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He started it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he took everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: He took my purse.
[SPEAKER_00]: He took everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I went back the next day to nicely asked for my bag, that was in the house.
[SPEAKER_00]: He and Docs were throwing dog poop out the window at me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Adam had his friends some guy, some German guy, I guess that lives, that's renting the house there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Full on beat me up, he said, get her.
[SPEAKER_00]: The reason why I had a face covering and all that, because I knew I was gonna be met with violence because that's who Adam is.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he's telling everyone that I am.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that people like,
[SPEAKER_03]: you can only keep going back to keep that chaos going.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you gotta find good lawyers, you gotta find someone who takes your side.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you gotta just try to live your life and let the truth play out because eventually it will.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you also have a hard time with people understanding you because you are a beautiful woman, you have a voice, you have a backbone, you know, using that sentence or whatever it was that you
[SPEAKER_03]: you went after Tyra Banks and Janice Dickinson and there for, you know, you could be seeing it as someone else.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I can attest to the fact that Janice Dickinson is very hard to get along with.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and Tyra Banks does not have a good reputation of being the kindest person.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you got into an argument with them, it only shows that you're one of the few that have a backbone to stand up to them.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that that does take credibility away
[SPEAKER_03]: from you, not rightly so, but it is just something that, you know, people are tossing a lot of fuel on the fire, and it doesn't work in your favor.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'll just be honest with you, and not that it is true things, but are things that make it harder for people to get on your side.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think it's fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the main question that you asked that I guess I didn't have a clear answer for, but me going back to my houses and me trying to settle this, knowing that he would create chaos, I'd be going to my house every great legally to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Knowing that he would make it chaos because that's who he is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is the doomsday proper.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is the one that threatens guns.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I ran away from guns back in the States, like real ones, his real ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then look, he still manipulated me with fake guns to get my children away from it's wild.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what I did there, and the reason why I went back to the house is because I knew chaos would happen because he won't stand for me sticking up for myself.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then what that does is it makes you get into court as an emergency.
[SPEAKER_00]: And once I get into the court and I'm with a judge, I can then present all my evidence there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I have tons of witnesses that will also say that Adam is a case study.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you raise a poor date set?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and of course, like, still nothing happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the wild thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm waiting to get into court because it is couldn't be more apparent to my team.
[SPEAKER_00]: My legal team here that also includes a clinical psychologist.
[SPEAKER_00]: who is like, oh my God, Adam is literally a case study.
[SPEAKER_00]: This man is so psychotic that it is the most dangerous thing in society and also for his kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to see that this is going on for so long with her kids away from her is even more devastating because these kids need their mother.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have never hurt my kids ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm still just waiting for court.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I can do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hear you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think in the meantime, as much as you both, I mean, listen, I'm not talking to him, but can cannot be doing that stuff in front of your kids.
[SPEAKER_03]: The better chance you're going to have of showing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, you can have that chaos.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't want it anymore in your life.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, a couple last questions.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's the most important thing you want your kids to know right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: How would you love that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fighting for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And everything that that family and him said about me is a lie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I've only tried to protect them and I tried to get them to go to school so they could have friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're in a different culture and I'll be stuck in the castle where I had to homeschool there, but they had no friend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything I did was with the best intentions.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that they are going to school, which is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that they do have friends, but this whole narrative that they paint in numbers, whereas I'm obviously alone in this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything I do for my children, everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've done everything for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've even came here to help out him with his mental health and it just, it all turned out of me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know I would be walking into a country with justice system.
[SPEAKER_00]: is so patriarchal and misogynistic and how the women are actually the ones that are taken out of the home when they report abuse.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a fact.
[SPEAKER_00]: If any woman reports abuse in their house, the woman gets taken out.
[SPEAKER_00]: She is the one that gets imprisoned with being forced to go into a shelter where
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you have to cook clean mop floors.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never mop more floors in my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess the only thing I could do now is just be a voice and maybe help portable and it's own right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Change the way that they deal with domestic violence and abuse and sexual assault.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you want your future to look like?
[SPEAKER_00]: Bright and beautiful and
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think one's a realization that I've had when I was flying, trying to save my business again, which is doing fine now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So much judgment comes from people who view success in life as things like purses or places they've been or
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, like career stepping stones, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: For me, I know for a fact that my purpose isn't those things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like my sister, she gauges her life with how many persons she has and the new car she has and the house she has, I don't view success like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that my purpose in life is to help change the world and one way or another.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I gauge my success.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want my kids to also feel inspired that they have the power to also make a better room for themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if people want to say that I'm this or that or whatever, I'm not like them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know like purpose is different.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the only person that I care about their opinion of what I've done and what I've tried to accomplish and what I will accomplish.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will accomplish.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not done yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is the opinion of my father.
[SPEAKER_00]: My father is talking to always fight for myself.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's really, really proud of me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's say only thing that matters to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you could write the ending to this chapter of your life, what would it look like?
[SPEAKER_00]: She did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: She did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I said myself, I knew that if I stayed in the castle, and I didn't make a run for it and plan this whole thing to kind of try to get a better life from this man who, in his brain, he really thinks that he's normal, but he's absolutely not.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really making a difference.
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew that if I stayed in that house, someone was gonna get shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was either my kids playing with the girl or Adam killing me or Adam killing himself because he was always always always manipulating me with his guns.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I know I got out and I know that things aren't the way that I had planned.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I definitely didn't think that I wouldn't be going through this right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's still really proud of what I've done.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still going to keep going because in the end, I know that every decision that I've made have come from good intentions.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I really want to help people.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've always wanted to help my dad.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've really wanted to help my kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: I only wanted to help out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even if I wasn't with him, I still wanted to help him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that he's even said that in therapy here.
[SPEAKER_00]: He knows, but I'm not allowed to leave that family oriented.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not allowed to.
[SPEAKER_03]: My last question for you is this, if you could say one thing to Adam and his family right now, what would it be?
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck you.
[SPEAKER_00]: How dare you?
[SPEAKER_00]: How dare you guys lie and cheat and steal and just try to manipulate and blackmail everybody?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who the fuck do you think you are?
[SPEAKER_00]: How dare you?
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you all brought it down honestly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean that with all do respect, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I guess I should ask you, because you do have some very loyal fans that have followed you and your story.
[SPEAKER_03]: What would you say to them that are?
[SPEAKER_00]: I love you guys so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a few of them that I have trickle down and been like, whatever, Lisa, you're doing this for attention.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I tried to divorce two years ago, quietly, calmly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Adam refused.
[SPEAKER_00]: He told me he was going to destroy me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Watch what happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to destroy you.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's the one that's made me
[SPEAKER_00]: speak out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not because I wanted to.
[SPEAKER_00]: So those those those followers that have followed me all the way from top model cycle five from two thousand three that have stuck with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys know who I am.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know my heart.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am not out here to hurt or mutilate anybody except for people that have like I bully bullies, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So like Tyra
[SPEAKER_00]: house, you know, that's a whole another obviously episode, but like, I fight back.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was taught to fight back.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will always, I don't want to live a life that's boring.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go to bed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to die and be like, well, at least I got my Gucci purse.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I want to know that I've changed the world in my small little way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Lisa, I am so happy that you chose to share your story with me with us.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish you so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I know you don't want to be bored with peace, but I do wish you peace and happiness.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you get your day in court.
[SPEAKER_03]: You do deserve to be heard.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I of course will stay in touch with you and follow your story and make sure that you know you have a friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much Rachel and I hope that Heidi gives you that interview here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love her too.
[SPEAKER_03]: She, she, well, I'm sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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