Kelsey’s Top 10 Books of the Year

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Telsa's Book Club. Just kidding. This is still movie Mike's movie.

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Speaker 2: Podcast, but it's the book episode.

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Speaker 1: It is the book episode, but you host.

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Speaker 2: This because I I haven't read any books. I'll give you my top comics I've read this year, but I have never good I've not finished a book this year.

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Speaker 3: I know. I have this very formal post it note my best books of the year.

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Speaker 1: Probably gonna have to consult my good Reads.

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Speaker 2: Still tell everybody how many books you read total this year?

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Speaker 3: I have finished eighty year. I'm reading others, but eighty was my goal for the year. I actually hit all of my personal growth goals for the year. My goals were well at the start of the year, they were focused on books in boxing classes, and then like midway through.

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Speaker 1: The year, it's about finding a job.

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Speaker 3: But I have since found a new job. I hit two hundred and fifty boxing classes and I've read eighty books. So I'm done with the personal growth for this year. So if anyone needs me for the remainder of twenty twenty four, I'm on my calchrutching Bravo with a glass of wine.

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Speaker 1: Done with personal growth.

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Speaker 2: My personal growth for the year was to make a list about the goals I wanted to accomplish, and I didn't finish the list, So I don't know if I had any personal growth of this year.

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Speaker 3: I would say you about personal growth and professional growth like your podcasts, True Crown.

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Speaker 2: I guess normally I have more specific goals. I just did things this year.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, but yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I read eighty and I have compiled a list of my top ten.

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Speaker 1: I think there's ten.

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Speaker 2: Let's say count the list and this very official post it note.

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Speaker 3: Ten.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but I think I was gonna swap one of them out. I might have eleven.

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Speaker 2: You can do ten and then do a honorable mention.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Kick it off with number ten.

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Speaker 3: Oh, but I don't have them. They're not like, oh, it's just ten. Oh, okay, you pick a favorite. Okay, give me to pick a favorite child. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I love ter rank things.

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Speaker 3: No, because they're all it's a mix, sure of like fiction and nonfiction. And I feel differently about fiction than I do nonfiction. So it's just the ten that stuck with me.

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Speaker 2: So I just do book one.

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Speaker 1: Book one.

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Speaker 3: We are going with the Goddess of Warsaw by Lisa Barr and I gave that a four point five out of five, and that is not a surprise a World War two book, but it was fascinating. It is about this actress and she is famous, and she's older now I think she's in her seventies or eighties. It's fiction, but she in another lifetime earlier in her life was like a spy. And I don't want to give anything else away, but the writing was phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: The story.

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Speaker 3: I loved the idea of like her being this like famous older actress and then her being like, but you don't know my history.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Done Dune, you'll know my history exactly all right.

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Speaker 3: Book two, okay, this one is called aft Annie by Anna Quindlin, and I gave that one a four point twenty five out of five.

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Speaker 1: And this one was sad. I'll give you it's a tear jerker.

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Speaker 3: So if you're feeling like you need something sad, read this one.

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Speaker 1: And if you feel like you don't want to read anything sad, don't read this one.

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Speaker 3: It is about a mom and a wife who suddenly dies and like how the people in her life pick up the pieces and move on. It's Ballet cower, kids, her husband, her best friend, how they all move on in her absence.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the first sad book you read, Because for me, I remember reading Where the Red Fern Grows, and that book destroyed me.

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Speaker 1: It was honestly probably a chicken soup for the kids.

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Speaker 3: You read those man, I had every version. I had one that had twenty five Christmas stories. To this day, they are some of the most depressing stories that have stuck with me. I have not read them over twenty years now. I can remember reading some of them. It was like a story for each day. There was one that I read that, like, to.

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Speaker 1: This day haunts me.

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Speaker 3: I won't even talk about it on here because it's so sad. I'll tell you later, but it's so so sad. Yeah, I had like chicken soup for the teenage soul. Remember they used to have like chicken soup for the American idol Lover Soul didn't have that one. I remember all of those, but yeah, I rose were probably sad.

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Speaker 2: I remember Where the Red Friend Grows and I remember Flowers for Algernon. Those are the two saddest books I read growing up.

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Speaker 1: Where the Red Friend grows.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. Pretty sad oh was another one. I cared old yeller, No, anything with the dog is usually pretty sad roll. It's under here my cry. That one got me too.

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Speaker 1: It's been so long since I read the one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the only time I paid attention like early on reading books.

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Speaker 3: It's Kill a Mockingbird made me really sad. Someone changed me as a person.

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Speaker 2: I would say, so the movie too, movie is good. What do you have for book three?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: So books three and four, I'm gonna kind of wrap these ups of combo because they had very similar plots, and hold on, let me in my professionalism.

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Speaker 1: I forgot to write down some of the authors.

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Speaker 2: I like how non professional you are with everything posted note.

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Speaker 3: I think it's because I'm so professional in my work life and everything else. I'm a project manager and everything else. Like my book club is thorough. It runs organized the rest of my life like Christmas gifts lists, and then sometimes I come down to it and I'm like, post it.

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Speaker 2: Note and reading books is it's your hobby.

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Speaker 3: It is my hobby. So I don't want to be but I do log them. And then all the Colors of the Dark by Chris Whitaker and God of the Woods by Liz Moore, very similar books, and they came out this year.

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Speaker 1: Both of them.

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Speaker 3: Got Off the Woods came out July second, and All the Colors of the Dark came out June twenty fifth, so a week apart. And they're both kind of about like a missing kid in the Woods. I gave All the Colors of the Dark five stars and Got of the Woods four point seventy five.

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Speaker 2: Does it happen a lot with books of two similar things coming out around the same time, because that happens with movies like twin movies, where sometimes they try to like jump on the other person, like, oh, we both are working on a movie that's very similar. We're going to get ours out first. I don't feel like it that's a coincidence.

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Speaker 3: I think this one was just a coincidence. All the Colors of the Dark is very long. It's like a six hundred page book.

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Speaker 2: I could never I read it on.

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Speaker 3: My kindle, and that honestly made it feel less intimidating. I love a long book, but I think five hundred is my max that I can read physical book. Other than that it overwhelms me. So I enjoyed reading All the Colors of the Dark.

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Speaker 2: On average, how long does it take you to read one book, like, say, like a what's a normal book? Two hundred three d pages?

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Speaker 1: That's a short one to me.

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Speaker 2: That's a normal one to me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I have all the time in the world.

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Speaker 2: A day, gosh, that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: We came home from Wicked and I started a book that was like four hundred pages and I stayed until two am reading it, and I read it all that night. But it was a fast paced So it again depends fiction nonfiction, funny, sad, the mood I'm in if I'm sitting up right in bed reading or if I've rolled over and I'm on my side with one I open reading my kindle.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, it takes me like fifteen twenty minutes to read a comic.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so they're both about kind of like a kid missing in the woods. I think the writing of All the Colors of the Dark was really interesting and I felt like it kept me guessing.

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Speaker 1: A little bit more than God of the Woods.

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Speaker 3: Feel like God of the Woods. I kind of figured out the twist, but not fully. But All the Colors of the Dark really kept me guessing.

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Speaker 2: That was four and five, three and four, three and four okay, Book five.

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Speaker 3: Book five is okay, So I guess I have another by two authors, and I forgot to write this one down, so I'm gonna go five is Code Girls, The Untold Story of the American Women code Breakers of World War Two by Eliza Mundy, and I believe I gave that one five stars, so it is about Synopsis's Code Girls is a book by e. Liza Mundy that tells the story of the American women who secretly broke codes during World War Two, meaning like they figured out where like German ships were going to be when they were moving in all of these things. I love this book because, as we all know, I love a book about a badass female heroin most of the books on my lists this year are about women, I don't think. I think All the Colors of the Dark is maybe the only one that has like a prominent male character. I didn't have time to read about men this year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I'm going back to what the episode they came out before this. Of my underrated movies, a lot of those were women's stories. Yeah, female directed, female starring female leads.

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Speaker 1: That's where we've been deprived of female stories for so long.

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Speaker 2: In me and people, Yeah, underrated.

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Speaker 3: I loved this because the idea was that you know, the men all go to fight off in the war, so women would kind of take like the administrative jobs.

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Speaker 1: No women were.

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Speaker 3: Solving, I mean and when I I still to this day don't entirely understand how they broke the codes because these things were encrypted with an encryption key that changed every day. So they had these machines that you would type a message and then you would like encrypt it, and so like the third letter would shift to become the seventh letter. So they got the finish puzzle, and they worked backwards and solved all of these things and it became like a fully readable message. My mind is literally, if you feel like giving yourself a headache, look up the machines that they used for code breaking, because I mean, I have a master's degree, and that thing looks like I'd never be able to do it.

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Speaker 1: That's worse than No Kim.

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Speaker 2: Trying to figure out how to hack into something exactly.

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Speaker 3: So then going off of that one, my next book, book six is The Sisterhood, also by Eliza Mundy, So this is a book about women in the CIA and this one.

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Speaker 1: Phenomenal also gave this one a five. I love books about.

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Speaker 3: Women in professions that like the world deemed too frail, too fragile, that women wouldn't be good at Women in the CIA so fascinating to me. Learned a lot about just the CIA as an organization, a lot of interesting stuff in there, specifically a round pre nine to eleven, what was happening with intelligence and like learning about organizations plotting things. I really want to say the word on this podcast, hopefully everyone else does. I thought that was really interesting and about how like women would go out in the field and they would do these undercover jobs and they were better at being undercover operatives because no one suspected that women were undercover. Ciah and Say were expecting it to be the men, and so women were kind of the like surprise, Like I've been collecting intell on you. Eliza Mundy's research is so detailed, like her notes at the end about how much research she does is what makes her think an incredible like investigative journalist and to be able to tell these stories because it's like, I mean, she's got like the days the transcripts, Like she is going off of so much research and then is able to put it into a story that doesn't bore you. It's like some of these things if you just start like reading case reports, but she like weaves it into a story. So I highly recommend that one. Next one, Let's see what book is this? This is book four seven? Oh, I thought we're going the other oay, I lost dragon numbers. All right, we're at book seven seven.

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Speaker 2: We're going to go into a break here and come back with the rest of the list because got to pay the bill around here. We are back, and we're back book seven, all right.

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Speaker 3: Book seven is Becoming Madam Secretary by Stephanie Dre also gave that one a five. So this one is about the woman who would become the Secretary of State under FDR.

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Speaker 1: So interesting.

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Speaker 3: She is responsible for like the creation of Social Security and her relationship working with FDR. I was like, women politicians don't always get their own stories. Again, deprived of women's stories.

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Speaker 1: Thought that one was really good, couldn't put it down.

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Speaker 3: Book eight is All You Have to Do Is Call by Harry Mayer, and I gave that one of four point seventy five out of five. One of the things that I learned about this year, and I feel that it's very timely in the light of twenty twenty four, is about the Jane Network in the seventies before bro v Wade was passed, and it was an organization of women who first just kind of connected women to safe abortion providers, and then the women in the group like actually learned how to provide these services.

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Speaker 1: So it's a group of women.

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Speaker 3: They were like, why aren't we the ones doing this if we're the ones having to receive it, and like know how women feel. So it was a story of the Jane Network, and the idea was all you have to do is call and you just say. There was another book that I read where you would say, like I'm looking for Jane, and that meant you needed access to abortion services.

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Speaker 1: And I won't make this.

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Speaker 3: Political, but as someone with a background in public health, I do have a master's degree in it, access to women's healthcare is one of the most important things. So the idea was these women banded together in the early seventies and they said, we're going to be the safe space for each other. And initially, like I said, they were reaching out to mail doctors asking them to partner with them, and then finally they were like, why are we sending all these women to male doctors who like aren't doing this. So they became trained and they would like have a full operation, and I thought it was so cool that they were willing to take that risk to provide healthcare for women. So there's a lot of books about that. I've read a couple fiction and then I read a nonfiction one. They're all kind of similar titled like Oh you have to Call looking for Jane. I think one was just called the Jane Network and it was actually written by a former member, so that one was really interesting. Next one, book nine is We Were the Lucky Ones by Georgia Hunter five star.

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Speaker 1: It is also a mini series on Hulu.

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Speaker 3: I would recommend reading the book first because you get obviously way more of the stories than you do in Hulu mini series. But I thought the miniseriies was really well done. I think it took it so the book spans an entire family across like twenty years, so the mini series I feel like, just had to kind of condense.

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Speaker 2: It afferent mini series.

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Speaker 3: I thought the cast was great. Joey King Logan Lerman is really well done. I think it's six or eight episodes, maybe eight came out earlier this year. I'd had the book on my list forever and it was just one of those that, like I kept getting off the wait list for another Library book and another Library book, and then it was just at the bottom of my list. And then when I saw the mini series was coming out, I was like, I need to read that, and then I read it and my life was changed. It was It's one of those that you read it and you're like, how is this story real? Because it's almost so unbelievable the things that they went through and endured that you're like, this has to be made up, but it's not. And I think that's my fascination with World War two books is that. And I've said this before, it's still it's not even it's what eighty years ago, Like I can't imagine people going through these things and surviving, but they did, and they're still telling their stories. And I'm just mind blown of the things. Like I talked about the people in Poland that lived in the sewers, people we talked about it with the Blitz movie, people sending their kids away to keep them safe. Like the things that humans endured and made it through to live and tell the story about feels. So I just can't fathom it. I simply can't fathom the way that they were treated and the conditions that they lived in for so many years, and like the human spirit prevailed and like people just did what they had to do to survive. And I'm sure we all think when push comes to show, if we could do it, but I'm like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I could. So I highly recommend.

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Speaker 3: If I was going to recommend just one off this list, I think it would be We Were the Lucky One. Yes, I think it would because it's just it's based on the author's family, so it's someone who has like the first hand interviews and experience, and I think that makes it more personable too, because she writes with an emotion.

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Speaker 2: And then it's cool you can read it and then go watch to see your.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I highly recommend reading it before you watch the series. Okay, Book number ten, The Six by Lauren Grush five stars, and I'm now so obsessed with space, which I mentioned briefly when we did the Underrated Movies that you had talked about fle Me to the Moon. I have a fascination with all things space. Now I want to understand it.

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Speaker 1: So the six is about the first six.

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Speaker 3: American women in space, because the Russians did beat us two that unfortunately in sent women to space before we did.

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Speaker 1: But it's the first six.

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Speaker 3: It was the class of like nine, either nineteen seventy six or nineteen seventy eight that NASA first started accepting women. And so it tells the full story of the first six women, Sally Ride, Judy Resnick, Shannon Lucid, Kathy Sullivan, Raya Sedden, and Anna Fisher. I think, and I just did that off the top of my memory, thank you. And I think the order was Sally Sally Ride was the first, Sally, Judy, Anna, Kathi, Rayah and Shannon, and then I went on a deep dive and Raya Seddin, who was the fifth woman. She was trained as a surgeon. She's from Murphysboro, Tennessee. She then went on to work in Nashville, like in medicine, which I thought was really cool. Like imagine you go somewhere and it's like, oh yeah, she was a former astronaut, like she casually like still doing surgeries and stuff. I think she went on to hold some leadership positions, but I thought that was cool, kind of a local celeb.

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Speaker 2: And all those women paved the way for Sandra Bully to go to space.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they did so then and history is not a spoiler alert. So the book ends on Judy Resnick being on the Challenger when it exploded. So now I'm reading, well, I started reading the book about the Challenger and then weird full circle. I'm in the Sharon mc man Virtual book Club and Challenger was actually picked just one of our books.

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Speaker 1: For next semester.

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Speaker 2: You're already reading it.

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Speaker 1: He's already reading.

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Speaker 3: It, which means we get another plug if you would like to join Sharon McMahon's book club.

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Speaker 1: It's so cool.

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Speaker 3: You get author meetings, so we're gonna get to hear from the author that wrote the Challenger book, and I want to hear all about his research. But I have fascination with space now, and most of these women were mothers, so they had kids and they were like going to space and then just hearing all the things that they did in space, like they would do a space walk and they'd use this robot arm to pull out like what they called the payloads. Fascinated by it. So loved that book. That was my eightieth book of the year. Once I started it, I was like, this is gonna be on my top ten list. I was like, this is so good. And then I actually found out that a friend of ours knows the author, So I'm gonna have to see if I can get the author's contact just so I can write her and be like, I loved this book.

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Speaker 1: I'm now obsessed with space.

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Speaker 2: You know how much I love space. The crazy thing to me is when you look at those like scales of like how small we are compared to everything. When you just start pulling out further and further and further and there's all these different planets, this huge galaxy. We're just so small. It's this little rock just floating here. That's what blows my mind about space, Like what is out there? I will go? How long will it take you to get there? Some say that the aliens aren't invading the world, they are leaving it. They've been here this whole time, and they're like, we gotta go.

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Speaker 3: One thing I learned was one of the missions I don't remember which one their windshield like had a slight cracking it. Thankfully it didn't like fully bust because they would have fall died, Like your windshield can't come off in space, like you can't be exposed to that. But it was from a paint chip, because things in space moved so fast that a paint chip flew off the space shuttle hit the windshield and cracked it.

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Speaker 2: That's also what blows my mind about space. I literally, how can you go through and not be hitting things all the time that are making holes in the spaceship as that happened, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And then like it's just funny too, like this world was fully designed for men, and it's like women are an afterthought most of the time. Like they designed all the like space suits and stuff for men, and then they had to be like, well, how are women going to pee in space? And I'm just like why are we were an afterthought?

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Speaker 2: And every design are they addressed in the book?

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Speaker 1: They do? They do?

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Speaker 3: They basically like they had to do like a it's almost like a tube that like connects to you because women can't. It's a lot harder for us to pee into something steadily than it is for men. But yeah, so I thought those books I would highly recommend. I think the lowest one on the list is a four point.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five strong list.

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Speaker 1: I will also give up plug for the app story Graph.

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Speaker 2: How do you say, where can people find Do you have that boasted on there.

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Speaker 1: My book reviews?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like I have all the books I've read this Yeah, okay, so I have a good Reads, which I'm still using because I know some people just to really love good Reads. But I'm also using a new app called story Graph. It is female founded. There's no ads. You can do like a five dollars a month subscription which I have, which allows you to build really cool like charts and graphs based on what you read for the year. But the biggest thing about story Graph is that you can rate books by quarters, so point two, five point five point seven five. My biggest hang up with good Reads besides the fact that it glitches half the time, so you can only do whole numbers.

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Speaker 1: So like, you'll go on my good Reads and.

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Speaker 3: All of these will probably be a five because they were above a four, so I didn't want to give it a four, but not all of them were a five. But on story Graph, you can see exactly what you give things, so I think you have to add people in StoryGraph. We'll put that in the show notes. Because I don't remember my username, it's probably the Kelsey Rod or something. And we'll put my good Reads on there as well. I love hearing what other people are reading. I like seeing on Goodreads what everyone's reading. Shout out to my friend Mandy who got me into the Sharon McMahon book Club.

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Speaker 1: It's so much fun. I think that's all I am to say.

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Speaker 3: I didn't do an honorable mention because if every other book, all the other seventy are honorable mentions.

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Speaker 2: You can go look at out everything you've read. All the other honorable mentions are on there. Yes, for me. My favorite comic I read this year the series was Ultimate Spider Man, which is Spider Man now and like his mid thirties. He's an adult married to Mary Jane. They have a couple of kids, and he's Spider Man. He that's when he becomes Spider Man, instead of becoming Spider Man as a teenager. He's in his thirties. So I loved this series.

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Speaker 1: That is really interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think it would make a great movie because they've done everything else they've done high school teenager. I think having somebody in their thirties, which is a lot of Spider Man fans like me who grew up with you know, the nine show, Toby maguire, you've had all those iterations. I think that would really speak to people now who are like people who grew up with Spider Man in that era of like, oh, it's somebody now at our age being Spider Man. But he probably had to take like a lot of advil and you know, have other things going on. But in this series, he's totally good. He's has the super ability to do every.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have Spider kids because he's not Spider Man yet.

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Speaker 2: They're regular kids.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there has been twelve issues of that and they've all been great.

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Speaker 1: You've read all twelve.

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Speaker 2: I haven't read the twelfth one yet because it hasn't come out at the time of recording this, but I've read all other eleven and they've been It's been the only comic that I have to go get when it comes out.

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Speaker 1: No, you have been getting your stories regularly.

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Speaker 2: I go get my stories regularly. The other one's like, yeah, I miss it.

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Speaker 3: Get it.

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Speaker 2: Later whenever they restocking. But that one, when it comes out, I have to go get it because they also put out like variant covers, and if you don't get those the week it comes out, they're gone forever.

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Speaker 1: It is good to snow.

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Speaker 2: So that is my one of the year.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of other book related things.

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Speaker 2: Like all those all those issues added up. Maybe it's a book. I would think so, because they put end up putting it out like all together, where you can just buy the one where it's every issue.

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Speaker 1: I think it's book.

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Speaker 2: That's my book of the year.

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Speaker 1: It's a hobby. I don't think it hass.

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Speaker 3: It's no different than people who are like I don't like to read a physical book like an audio book, Like yeah, you're consuming information, whether it's informative or enjoyable. Like still still reading to me, Like I consider an audio book just as much. Hold on, I still feel like I had some other book thoughts. My favorite book light is called The Mighty Bright. I can put that in the show notes as well. I get no kickback. I just really enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you have a light, I do.

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Speaker 1: It gets pretty bright.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 3: You have to face the wall when I'm reading, but it is dimmable, it has a long battery life. Oh, this year we are going to do We didn't do it last year. I talked about it, and then when it was my birthday, people are like, I hope you get your like books at the bookstore. We are going to do the thing. Let's set the ground rules now, Okay, where we go to our low bookstore? Shout out Parnassis greatest place ever? How long do I have to go around the store to get books?

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Speaker 2: Ninety seconds?

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Speaker 3: Do I get like a pre Do I get a warm up lap? Because I have to read about some of these books. I can't just buy based on the comer.

00:25:17
Speaker 2: You can know going into it, but it's in ninety seconds. How many can you grab? I feel like you could have a list, but you can't go through and see where everything is. I think that's part of it. Who because that's the that's.

00:25:29
Speaker 1: Okay, two minutes. I think ninety seconds too short.

00:25:33
Speaker 2: I think ninety seconds is good. I don't like that because it's a skill thing, Like you have ninety seconds to get all the books? How many can you get?

00:25:40
Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily know what I want?

00:25:43
Speaker 2: That's what you can do. You can look it up before and have a list and then you have to go find them ninety seconds because if you have two minutes, that's a lot of time. Then it becomes less of like, oh I had to get these quickly. They'll be like, oh I can, I can take some time. I think the ninety seconds puts the pressure on you.

00:25:59
Speaker 1: And what if it's crowded in there? Can we extend the time.

00:26:02
Speaker 2: That's ninety seconds.

00:26:03
Speaker 1: I can't mow people over.

00:26:05
Speaker 2: That's part of the game, that's what makes it fun.

00:26:10
Speaker 1: I don't want to agree to these terms and conditions.

00:26:12
Speaker 2: Initially I was thinking sixty seconds. I thought ninety seconds was being generous. I think nineties perfect. Okay, I think that makes it fun. And you can film a video in ninety seconds.

00:26:22
Speaker 1: Boom, I'm not filming the video. I'm too busy looking.

00:26:25
Speaker 2: I'm filming it ninety seconds. That's the only rule. In ninety seconds. You can have a list going into it, but you can't go through and plot it out. You can't like go in and do a test run. It's ninety seconds.

00:26:38
Speaker 1: I mean, I know the layout of the story.

00:26:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, you already, you already kind of know the layouts you already have an advantage there.

00:26:44
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, are we shaking on it?

00:26:47
Speaker 2: Shake? Shake, shake, shake, seen Aura? All right? Anything else?

00:26:54
Speaker 1: I would love to see the rest of these become.

00:26:58
Speaker 2: Movies or many series.

00:27:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, or many series, I guess the like. Nonfictional ones are a little bit harder to do. All right. I'm gonna read more about space now.

00:27:12
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks everybody for listening.

00:27:13
Speaker 1: Thanks for caring about what I'm reading.

00:27:16
Speaker 2: And you do the optro And until next time, go out read good books.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: All right.

00:27:21
Speaker 1: Until next time, go out read good books

00:27:24
Speaker 2: And we will talk to you later.