Charity & Rachel Takeover Happy Hour & All Things Grandparenting! | Golden Hour

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us today. We're so excited to be back. How are you doing, my dear friend, Susan.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I'm back into the cold weather. Actually it's been like fifties, not bad. But tonight it's dropping twenty degrees. We might get some flurries, some rain.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, Well, can I just tell you I found a way to feel like I was in the hot sun. I use some medication on my face that burned my face. Now I'm peeling. It's not quite like being at the beach, but you know the results, the same.

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Speaker 2: Cathy between your hair and your face. I mean, it's twenty twenty six. This is a new season.

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Speaker 1: I know I got things to say about it too. Let me just say twenty twenty six. I got things.

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Speaker 2: But I am excited for this new year. I really am too. I love being in it. Let's see what happened. So today we will be answered more of our fan questions. But first, there is some very big news that came out this week and we just have to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh my gosh. Okay, So Joe and Serena have officially parted ways. They are no longer the hosts of Bachelor Happy Hour and Charity and Rachel, two of my favorites, have taken over. It's like a whole new beginning. What do you think about it?

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Speaker 2: First of all, Joe and Serena like, how many podcasts did we do with them? I love them. They're like the family.

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Speaker 1: So do you remember the first time and Serena? I've never let her forget it. Every time we see each other, we now joke about it. Do you remember the first time we were on their podcast and Serena had said something about me from Golden You know, I don't really Oh I did? She goes. I never said it, and I said, oh, yeah you did. And I said, but she goes, but I and she was stuttering, she goes, I really like you. I really like you. They are wonderful people. But you know, listening to their last podcast, it was, you know, they were talking to you. When they started, they weren't married, and then they were married. They weren't they they were legally married. I guess they had a Justice to the Peace wedding. But they were talking about how much their life had changed in the whatever. It was two and a half years they had done the podcast and how many things had changed, and I.

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Speaker 2: Thought, heart of Bachelor forever.

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Speaker 1: And I love that they talked about, you know, how they met and how the best part for me though, you know when people ask us, Susan, what is your favorite interview and we go, uh, they did the same thing, they like, how do you choose one? And I love that they that they you know, mentioned that you know, what's your favorite? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what they're going to be doing. I'm sure we will see them again.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I think I think who knows. I think that they're not done with podcasting. I think they're not done working together. They commented on how well they work together, so I think that's really exciting.

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Speaker 2: And remember them saying it's an adjustment like living together, working together all the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, place, I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know it. But let's talk charity, Charity and Rachel. So I know Charity better than I know Rachel. But I love them both. I think they're going to be great. Here's here's what struck me. And then I'm curious what you think. When they started talking, they were both leads and so they were talking about what happened on their show, and I'm like, I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: You kind of get longs for a few minutes because we weren't there, but they were so giddy and excited. I'm so excited for them. It was like two girls just.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I gotta admit listening to them talk about the lead being the leads in their season and you know, the one on one dates and the group dates that went too long, I'm like, I want that. I want that. So I am very excited. I loved their first podcast. First of all, we got some tea on on Charity's wedding.

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Speaker 2: And the seven outfits that she's going to have, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, and she's going to look fabulous in every one of them.

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Speaker 2: But now in her thirtieth birthday celebration in Las Vegas, that was okay, And why weren't we invited?

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Speaker 1: Mike?

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Speaker 2: I'm calling her.

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Speaker 1: Wait, can I just say she's when she's talking about, you know, the big and of course I know how old she is, right, but she's saying, you know, this is the big one, and it's like it's it's like she literally said, I believe I have to go back and check my golden birthday. And I literally I was out walking. I had my headset on and I'm listening to her podcast and by golden birthday, the hell you are? Wait?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember turning thirty though? I mean, seriously, that was a big day.

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Speaker 1: I don't I remember turning forty. I don't remember turning thirty.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I remember thirty. And I know what she's saying. And she talked a lot about Frankie Taylor. They're so excited about all this.

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Speaker 1: So I will say, you know, one of the things I'm most excited about for their podcast. First of all, they're fresh, and they're new, and they're excited, and they're gonna have great ideas and thoughts. But I think they're going to bring an incredible perspective to the podcast. Why because they were leads and they are going to be able to talk in their minds about what's going on with Taylor and how she's doing with the situation she finds herself in. And I think that's gonna be fascinating listening.

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Speaker 2: And the way they were talking. They were talking is if there's gonna be some roller coaster rides.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she.

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Speaker 2: Taylor just steps out and does her things. She is who she is.

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Speaker 1: She Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think very excited. We're excited about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I think that it is an incredible opportunity for them to start on such a high note with Taylor. And by the way, can I just say most people say Taylor Frankie Paul, I'm going to just start calling her Taylor instead.

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Speaker 2: Of I call her Frankie Taylor at the time.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna simplify this from now on. We are Taylor, you call it Taylor.

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Speaker 2: I'll call her Frankie.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that'll confuse people. But I really do think that that Rachel and I think they couldn't have chosen a better twosome to take over Bachelor Happy Hour. I think they're gonna do a great job. I'm so excited that they're joining the podcast family and of course now so much success. They don't need, they don't need wishes. They're gonna be great, They're gonna they're gonna nail this. But I really do think that the fact that they were both leads is really going to bring a whole new perspective to.

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Speaker 2: It, because you know what, what's happening. They knew how it worked, so.

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Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen. You and I are going to be lead, so we can change our perspective.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: But if you ever feel like we're selling a lot of soap, no, but I'm so excited for the girls.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations. If you're listening, we cannot wait to talk to you about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, grats, Yeah, really, we did a great job.

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Speaker 2: Best all right, kath Should we get into today's episode?

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Speaker 1: Wait, I have to tell you today's episode. I'm so excited about it because we're going to be talking about grandchildren, grandparenting. And I have to tell you it's perfect timing because I just had Linley, my seven year old granddaughter. I had her because school hasn't gone back to session yet for a couple of reasons, and parents have to work, you know that whole thing. And so I had my granddaughter spending the night with me and was here like two and a half days. And I have to tell you, I have forgotten what it's like. We did. I mean, we hunted for turtles. I taught her I'm teaching not a crochet. We went to the bookstore and got I'm trying to get her to read, because everyone who knows me knows I love books. So we sat there reading, we baked brownies. I mean, it's like non stop entertainment. I love it so much. But I have to tell you. She went home last night and my son texted me. Kyle who you know, and his wife Candy texted me and they always do highs and lows every night at the dinner table, the high for the day. Each person says they're high for the day and they're low for the day. And they both texted me and said Lindley's high for the day was spending getting to spend a few days with Kiki, which is my grandmother name, spending a few days with Kiki that I'm so funny and I'm so much fun and she had a best time, and of course that just made my I just I just went.

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Speaker 2: I loved their little card trick. I did it out I.

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Speaker 1: Was. She wouldn't teach it to me either.

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Speaker 2: She's just the card.

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Speaker 1: It was hysteric. I couldn't believe it. She wants to be a magician. That's today, you know, next week she wants to be a gymnast. She's just it is so fun. Grandparent is so different from children. And I'm just gonna tell you one thing I did that I would never let my children do. I'm embarrassed to admit it. I let her have pizza for dinner with and she dips it in ranch dressing.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, a lot of the younger generations, I know.

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Speaker 1: It's just And then and then the brownies we made, she had those for dessert, and then guess what she had for lunch the next day, more pizza dipped in rans.

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Speaker 2: So what's wrong with that? You never let your kids have pizza for dinner.

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Speaker 1: And the next day for lunch. No, no, why because fruits vegta balance meals, you know.

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Speaker 2: For God's sake, Kathy, I'm just my baseball season and your kids are athletes, you get Oh.

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Speaker 1: No, we did no, no, no, no, we did that too. We'd have hot dogs at the dug out. No, we did that too.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, all right, so today we are back and we're going to answer more of our fan questions and we are excited to check in with you guys and dish out some But first I'm going to start us off with a question of the day, Kath, what are your favorite and least favorite parts of being a grandparent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the favorite part is, like I was just talking about spending time with them, I have also the two and a half year old granddaughter and then three grandsons. Well you know, it's watching them going to the sporting events, going to their dance recitals, baking with them, cooking with them, spoiling them because you know what, it's not my problem when they go home. Oh wait, that is that is my I don't want to see my favorite part. But I love the least favorite. Honestly, the least favorite is I have to change my schedule when they come to stay with me. I can't. For example, I couldn't go out and leave Linley and go walk my five miles so I couldn't do it that. You know, two days I missed, which was hard for me. That's me being selfish. But I love the fact that my kids get a chance to spend a little time, you know, without having to make dinner and get kids up in the morning. But I also love that, you know, they're not my problem to discipline. My problem is to love them, hand down culture, tradition, and just have fun with them. My little two and a half year old granddaughter. I just love watching her grow and watching her learn. And she speaks Spanish and English. She's in an immersion program. I love watching her be her. You know, I didn't have time as a parent. What about you?

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Speaker 2: I have them in all stages. So Julian is the oldest one, and I cannot believe he's fifteen and a half. In May.

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Speaker 1: I got one eighteen January.

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Speaker 2: Thrive, I know, Oh my god. Then I have Mason, who is the athlete, and we go to his games. You know, Bella, the teenage granddaughter going through hormones, just got a period. Her mother's not real pleased with her. She's moody being a grandparent. I hear my daughter complain. But when you're looking at it, you know, it's like, well, Britt, this is what do you think you did? But my favorite part of the two four year olds, okay, once my son's one's my daughter. I took my son's Stella with me to Virginia to see my daughter and Tovey. On the way home, Stella is sharp. On the way home, she says, Mimi, how come Tovy only drink diet soda and eat oreos.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm sorry your granddaughter drinks diet soda.

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Speaker 2: Britney is a diet soda. Well, I was, I came undone. The thing I don't like, my least favorite part is watching how they're raising the kids. They're disciplined and they're they're what they do because I am totally different in my values and my views as some of your kids do theirs like that is a struggle.

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Speaker 1: I will say, you are. I hadn't thought of that. You're absolutely right. When when Kyle got divorced, so as all of you may remember, Susan officiated Kyle's second marriage, and they're very happily married, and I inherited three wonderful grandsons in addition to my two granddaughters son I have five. But I was worried. It's so interesting that you say that I was worried that my son, you know, the guild, all that of getting divorced and kids switching homes and all that, that he would be a permissive father, that anything Lidley wanted she'd get, And I really was worried. Oh my heavens. Linley is the most well behaved. She's creative beyond belief. She's polite, she carries her dishes to the sink, she doesn't interrupt. She's seven and she is a graceful young lady. And that is due to Candy and Kyle making her toe the rope. And you're exactly right, like it doesn't happen. I think. I think once our kids became parents, they're like, oh shit, this is what it's like to be a parent. It doesn't just happen. Please and thank you and making your bed and cleaning your room, and you have to do. And guess what our children are now realizing what you and I learned, which is parenting is hard work.

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Speaker 2: And there for a book of instructions.

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Speaker 1: And I will say I've said this many times to my kids. You you are not your children's friends like my kids were. Don't you remember when your kids were young. I have this all the time. My kids will come home and go, Mom, I can't believe you won't let us do that because Joey's mother and I looked at them and would always say I said that, first of all, yeah, exactly. First of all, I would say, I don't care what Joey's mother does. And secondly, I'm not here to be your friend. I am here to raise you to be the best adult you can be. So I'm really sorry that you can't go toilet paper the neighbor's house. But we're not doing that.

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Speaker 2: Mine was a big thing on curfew. Everybody was allowed out later than I was. Oh yeah, Mom, Why why father said nothing good happens after eleven at night?

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Speaker 1: Oh I must have known your father because I said nothing good happens after nine.

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Speaker 2: Well, I had to be home at nine, but that when I was younger. As I got older, even they still have rules.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's going to be interesting. You know, we're going to get into some questions here, but I think it's really going to be interesting to see how our children, well your daughter, I'm gonna have to talk to Brittany. Brittany. My psa few today is get that kid off died? So not good for children, not good for anyone, but definitely not for children.

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Speaker 2: And as you said, we are coming back here and answering some of the questions, and we're really excited that you guys are here with us, and we're here to dish out some more advice. Kathy, after being the favorite and not so favorite part of grandparenting, let's hear what our listeners had say. Would you like to go first or would you like me to go first?

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Speaker 1: Here we go, I'll take first one. Mary Anne writes, Hi, Kathy and Susan, I'm a big fan and look forward to your episodes each week. I know you are both grandparents and would love your thoughts on what the role of a grandparent means to you. I recently had a discussion with my daughter about my role as a grandparent. I am sixty six years old. I have two tenage grandchildren and two under the age of eight. My daughter told me that grandparents should not share opinions, experiences, or life lessons with the grandchildren. She believes that it is the parent's role and that grandparents should just quote, spend time and have fun unquote with their grandchildren. I was hurt by this and don't agree, but will respect her wishes. But I also don't want to be silenced. I love to share my life experiences when relevant with my grandchildren. We have lots of fun and I feel like I have so much more to offer them. Grandparents have knowledge, wisdom, life experiences, and can be great mentors as well. I want to be more than just a quote unquote fun grandparent, What happened to teaching our children to respect, admire, and perhaps learn from the senior generation. What are your thoughts? Also, keep living your best lives, ladies, you rock well, Thank you, we are rocking. What do you say to her, Susan.

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Speaker 2: MARYM I agree whole one hundred and fifty thousand percent. Even though because the generations are so different, by the time we have grandchildren, they love our stories. I mean, they're not as crazy as their parents would be. But why would your daughter try to silence you? And so you're telling them something negative or scary that might haunt them, But of course you wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 1: So happy a couple of fun, right, I have a couple of thoughts on it. I like you, Marriam. I do tell my grandchildren's stories about me as a child and stories about their their parents, you know, their parents when they were children. Here's what I would encourage you. My thought is, I agree with Susan, the world's coming to and you here to feel the building. We're agreeing. Here's I do agree that we have lots of wisdom. I agree with you as well. We have a lot of life experiences and we want to be the fun grandparent, but we also want to share our life experiences. I do think that it is not okay if our children tell us that they don't want us to discipline their children. I think that's okay. But even that, I must say, Susan, I draw the line. I kind of say my house, my rules. Now by that, I'm not going to uh, discipline my granddaughter and say, I just said you she had ranch and pizza. I'm ranch dressing. I would never have let my kids do that, and they would have had and if I did, because it's not healthy, but I would have I would have let them have if I would have let them do it occasionally, if they had vegetables, fruits and vegetables on a side serving with a pizza. But of course that defeats the point of having pizza Knight. So we did Pizza Night's at our house. That kind of thing I will do. I am not going to discipline my children's my grandchildren on the way they speak unless they're rude to me. I'm not going to give them life lessons.

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Speaker 2: Well now, God remind them. If they didn't say thank you, so what do you say? Oh? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do that as well. But for example, you do you think maybe maybe her kids are divorced. I mean, my I don't talk about my son's ex wife with with my granddaughter. And when my granddaughter brings her up, I say things like, oh, that's nice. Nice, you know, I'm sure she's busy, you know whatever. I try to keep it berry on the up and up. But I think maybe your daughter Mary is afraid that you are teaching her some value. In other words, they don't maybe they don't go to church, and you want to take her to church. You can't do that if the parents don't want her reading the Bible. That's a great example to me. If if you're if her parents the kids parents don't want the kids reading the Bible, or then you can't take them, or you can't take them to temple, You can't take them to church, you can't do those things with them. You can't take your children grandchildren to a rally, a political rally. Those are choices that the parent gets to make.

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Speaker 2: And when her daughter says life lessons, you learn from life lessons when somebody's else somebody else's life lesson, well I wouldn't want her to share like my grandkids can teach me things.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But Susan, what if your what if your granddaughter, your your grand let's say your teenage granddaughter. You were over there babysitting and she brought home. I'm making this up a failing math test. You're you're you're babysitting, they're out of town. She brought home a failing math test. Are you going to sit down and make her correct the answers?

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Speaker 2: I'm not going why she failed it? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: No, See, that's not your business, not your thing. That's to me. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I think that's what Mariam is getting at here, Mariam's daughter. So I think Mary, my advice to you is, I agree with you. We do have lots of life lessons and some of the fun stories and all those things I think are passing along heritage traditions are fabulous. But I think the two things, yeah, your opinion on.

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Speaker 2: Because your opinion and our kid's opinion might be too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't exactly. You don't get to if if you are not a current support of our president and your child is you don't get to tell your grandchildren what you think it's those kinds of things that might be against her her daughters. So I would have the conversation.

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Speaker 2: As she says, I love to share my life experience when relevant. What is wrong with that? Oh, guys, you you think this is nuts. But when I was a little girl and my daddy came home and got me this or whatever what you felt like, there's nothing wrong with that. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how about this one. That's lovely, that's very Norman rockwellish. Let me give you another. Let me give you another one. This did not happen to me, but I'm it's a great story. You know, Linley, When I was sixteen, I got caught stealing a car and I had to go, oh my god, it didn't that's a life lesson.

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Speaker 2: Why would you tell someone?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm saying we are assuming that all life lessons are nice stories. And I went to the store and I gave the woman behind me ten dollars for her groceries. No, maybe she had an issue with drugs, Maybe she stole cars. Maybe I'm saying you have to. And so my advice, Mariam is, ask your daughter what experiences you can share with her with your grandchildren. That's what I would do. That's a lot you wouldn't, Susan.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think I would.

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Speaker 1: And that's why your granddaughter's drinking diet coke.

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Speaker 2: She's four and I don't live with her, but she would not do that in my house, let me tell you. But you know what I learned from my grandkids. They helped me with the cell phone. Things I didn't even know existed on my phone. They're you have a seventeen How do I do it? Guys? And they do it for you, and I go, no, no, no, teach mebe slow down. You just do this this this.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you by two and a half year old granddaughter. So I don't again my thing. Oh that's another example, by the way, if that is another great example. If you think that screen time is find not a problem, and you let your and but your daughter.

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Speaker 2: There's a certain time of day they're allowed.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's her rule, right, that's your daughter's rule. If if my son or my daughter has a rule that the kids don't have screen time, Kyle's daughter is not allowed and I support it, by the way, is not allowed when she's staying with them. She is not allowed any time on the iPad, any of it. I holy support that kids get enough of it at school. Now, let's say Linluiss at school. A lot of kids here, Yes, they learn on iPads a lot of.

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Speaker 2: The learning something. But it's not like a movie.

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Speaker 1: Or oh no, no, no no, it's I say they have enough time on doing lessons and things. They have enough screen time at school. But let's just say, Susan that Linley was at my house and you know, I'd really like to be reading a book or needle pointing, and so I say, literally, just pick up your iPad and here's my iPad. That is wrong. That is me putting my my value system. That's a great example, putting my values ahead of what my son's values are. So that's I think what she's getting at. So again, Mariam, I would encourage you to find out exactly what it is she doesn't want you to share, because you're absolutely right. We do have lots of great stories and heritage to pass along in traditions to our kids, that folklore that we lose right after a few generations. So I love that have that. Oh, it was about conversation. Talk with your child.

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Speaker 2: Learn the rules next is Chris, Hi, Kathy, and Susan. First, let me say how much I enjoy listening to your podcasts. I have a question regarding grandchildren. Our daughter is pregnant with our first granddaughter. She's due in March, and we are beyond excited. The problem is we live in Las Vegas and they're in Tulsa, Oklahoma. None of my grandparents lived locally to me growing up, and neither were my daughter's grandparents, and we all felt like we missed out. My husband and I have always wanted to be those grandparents who live close so the grandkids could come over any time within reason, and we could be involved in their lives. We are sixty one and fifty six and have jobs. We also love living in Vegas. Tulsa from what we've seen, isn't exactly where we see ourselves enjoying living, and we don't know any one other than our daughter and son in law and his family. But it isn't. But isn't it ultimately about family? It shouldn't matter where you live as long as you're close to them, right or is it okay to be long distance slash FaceTime grandparents? I know we'll be sad and feel like we're missing out, but we also have to have a life outside of just the grandkids. There's no chance of them leaving Tulsa, and I don't blame them. It's a great place to raise a family. I respect you both in the wisdom you bring to the show and would love any advice or experiences you could share. Happy twenty twenty six and we wish you the same, Chris, Happy twenty twenty six and whoa, I get it. I totally get this. There's a way to still be in their lives. Yes, you will have to result to FaceTime, but you got to be around in the beginning and visit enough so that they're comfortable and knowing who you are, because kids get that strange thing when you're not really around. Christopher was his pet peeve about Stella knowing her me me, and we're very close because I babysat the first year of her life.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but that's because you live locally, is her point.

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Speaker 2: Toby. It took me time. I would go down to Virginia a couple times a year. She comes up a couple times a year, and it took a lot of time. Dicky is down there a lot. My ex he was very close to Toby, but she has come around. She knows her MEMI and it does work.

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Speaker 1: I think so. I also, I also Chris lived near one set of grandparents uh and the other set I did not live close to. However, there was not FaceTime and the and the resources we have now to keep in contact. Having said that, I was much closer to my mother's parents than I was to my dad's because they live my mother's live locally. Having said that, you guys are working and there's not much you can do, but is it okay? Of course it's okay forgive yourself, give yourself the latitude to say, look, this isn't what we thought it would be, but we're working. We have friends in Las Vegas. We have a life in Las Vegas. I think Susan's right spend. I don't blame you for not wanting to leave. I think, you know, my kids every time they talk conceptually, my daughter and her husband, my son, occasionally they conceptually talk about living somewhere else. I don't think it's ever going to happen, but they talk about it, and I say to them, you know, like if they move back to the Northeast, I don't want to go back to the cold. You know, she doesn't want to go to Tulsa. I don't want to go back to the northeast. I don't like the snow, and so these are choices we make as parents and grandparents. However, I will say I am retired, and if any of my kids moved, I and you know the Susan next Well, it costs a lot of money to travel, but I would try to spend at least a week a month with you know, whoever moves or if I moved whatever, I mean, I could move away. I do think it's very important. But I do think FaceTime has changed a lot.

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Speaker 2: And also they got to prepare themselves because his family is going to be local. When you go to visit, there's going to be some jeil because they're going to be very attached to his parents and that's what they're familiar with. But it's not forever, Like I said, it takes a few years and they'll they'll know you because you obviously will love them to death, and you'll face time, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's listen, it's not a question whether it's okay or not okay, because you guys are working. It's you. You know, some of these things are out of your control. So Chris, you can't unless you can relocate and you're willing to. It doesn't matter whether it's okay or not, because you both are gainfully employed in Las Vegas, Nevada. I get it. And the other thing is you don't know that they'll always stay. Likely they will stay there for his family's there. But it's hard. Susan's right. You're going to have to adapt to the new idea that you're not going to see them every day. You're not going to be babysitting holidays.

00:32:55
Speaker 2: You know you're going to go on the holidays and decide will they come to you on any helliway? It's not easy.

00:33:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, And is it ultimately about family? It is ultimately about family. And guess what, you and your husband are a family too, and you have a life. So the question you could have asked is but isn't it ultimately about sacrifice because you and your husband are a family, And the answer is no, it's not ultimately about sacrifice for me and I love my grandmake.

00:33:26
Speaker 2: A trip and you could have the baby come out and stay with you or not.

00:33:30
Speaker 1: If they're working. Not if they're working tough, That's what I'm saying. It's not it's that they've got they have a number of years. They're damned if they do.

00:33:44
Speaker 2: The baby coming on the grid, Yeah, coming, and that baby will know you love them.

00:33:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just you. You can send gifts, but talking to them. There's lots of things you can do. Recording books, face, you can report, record with your voice. It's not ideal. You might be spending a lot of your vacation time in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

00:34:08
Speaker 2: Uh, bring the baby to.

00:34:10
Speaker 1: Her to I would stay in Vegas. The weather's better, really, And I think you don't pay taxes in Nevada, do you? And you certainly do in Oklahoma. I'm always looking at the financial peace.

00:34:22
Speaker 2: I don't think i'd want to move to Oklahoma, no matter what.

00:34:25
Speaker 1: I'll visit well from Texas. Let me just say, living in Texas Oklahoma, I mean it's like the arch rivals, the two school sides. You know, they have a lot of They have a lot of bad weather in Oklahoma. They get during the spring, they get lots of are cyclone bad windstorms and rainstorms coming to their tornadoes. That's what I was looking for tornadoes, lots of them.

00:34:49
Speaker 2: Just swallow it. Love that baby to death, be a part of its life. You're not going to FaceTime when the baby's two months old, obviously, yeah, I will say you go visit, be there.

00:35:00
Speaker 1: I will say, just having had you can, just having had my granddaughter with me and I love when the little one comes, I will tell you. Do you agree? The time goes by very quickly. My three grandsons, I mean, they never spend the night here. They're in sports and band and jazz band and four age club. I mean, they have so many activities so I which you're not gonna like hearing, Chris, I'm trying to soak up as much time as I can while they're really young, because my other are two and a half. Well she'll be three. I can't believe she'll be three in April, but you know, almost three year old and a seven year old. I'm trying to soak up and have them come over and spend time with them as much as I can because they get to that point where they want to be with their friends and they have activities. It's hard. I mean, you just don't then, do you let me ask you Susan, do you talk to your teenage grandchildren? Do you do you call them? Do they call you on the phone.

00:36:03
Speaker 2: Once in a while, we text? They only call if they need something.

00:36:08
Speaker 1: I was Is that true? Okay?

00:36:10
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. My son will text out of nowhere. I love you, mom, thanks for being my mom.

00:36:16
Speaker 1: Which is done? Is this?

00:36:17
Speaker 2: Christopher?

00:36:19
Speaker 1: Christopher will text you. But I'm talking about your grandchildren that are old enough to use the phone. You know, they don't just call you to say hi. No, see, I want my grandkids to do that.

00:36:29
Speaker 2: I want them to reach out to them and text is way easier. Half the time they're punished they don't have a phone, But.

00:36:37
Speaker 1: That's because they had too many diet soda? Is it the sugar went to?

00:36:41
Speaker 2: And I'll text, Hey, it's me me, what's up?

00:36:44
Speaker 1: Yeah? No response?

00:36:46
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

00:36:48
Speaker 1: But you don't face you do you face?

00:36:52
Speaker 2: I see them?

00:36:54
Speaker 1: No?

00:36:55
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well babies, I do even Stella, Like if I call Britain, she'll be like FaceTime and me FaceTime me FaceTime maybe.

00:37:05
Speaker 1: But that's because they love that's because they love the screen. You know, they want to know because.

00:37:09
Speaker 2: They love me me, they want to see me and she wants to show me what she's doing. Is that stellar year old going on five? That was Tovey definitely.

00:37:19
Speaker 1: So it's very funny because my my almost three year old granddaughters, she can uh, it's crazy what she can do. When she gets my daughter's phone. She knows how to scroll, she knows. She's also frozen it where you know you have to wait twenty minutes to unlock it.

00:37:39
Speaker 2: It's also when you're in the car and they're cranky, here, put music on, give them the phone.

00:37:44
Speaker 1: Tell you know what I do?

00:37:45
Speaker 2: You do that with nursery rhyme songs?

00:37:47
Speaker 1: Okay, Stella will ask for it. Well, we do that. But you know what I because you know I was at an education person.

00:37:54
Speaker 2: We all sing I do we do that?

00:37:57
Speaker 1: We play music? I play I play classical music for them. Sometimes I play pop music. We'll do Taylor Swift because my seven year old loves that. But you know what, you know what I do with my the young ones. I did it with Linley and now I'm doing with Reese. The almost three year old will sit in the car and I'll say I see something green and oh yes, and then I'll do I'll say, look at that stops. You're gonna I can already hear you laughing. How many sides does it have? And try to teach them the letters? Ask what sound doeses mat like? I mean, it's like it's like we are preschool in my car when I have them, but they seem to have fun with it, and I'm.

00:38:37
Speaker 2: Preschool with the adults when I'm driving. You start Remember I might have played this with you, I don't know. You start with the letter A and you name an animal and you have to repeat each letter. By the time you're getting through the alphabet, it gets a little crazy and people look at me like, Susan, you're really playing that game on bored people. We got three more hours.

00:38:57
Speaker 1: Let's go, Susan, you've forgotten we did that at the first time we went to Saint Martin with Nancy when we got lost on that dark road at night.

00:39:05
Speaker 2: Let's like, are you serious?

00:39:08
Speaker 1: We are lost, we know not where we are and sus wants to play alphabet. Great. Perfect.

00:39:12
Speaker 2: It takes your mind off of things. But you know what, we could just chat all day long and this was a lot of fun. Thank you all so much for listening and enjoying things with us.

00:39:24
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00:39:41
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00:39:50
Speaker 1: A great week.