Movie of the Month (Nov) with Mike and Kelsey + Movie Review: Gladiator 2 + Trailer Park: Snow White

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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome back to Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. What were you saying before we started?

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Speaker 2: I said, you're recording this episode, and it's it's kind of like what I'm on teams meeting and I can't stop staring at myself and the.

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Speaker 1: Good I look.

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Speaker 2: No usually I'm like, oh, this is not good lighting. I had to get my work to order me a new camera because previously I bought myself a webcam for at home and it was just like one of the cheap ones.

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Speaker 1: Way zoomed in, way zoomed in, and.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you can see every pore on my face. And I take good care of my skin, but I was like, this is too up close and personal, Like if I have my hair, like some days I wear my hair in a clip, and I just looked like a giant like egghead.

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Speaker 1: On most calls, you ever get a glimpse of yourself in the mirror and it totally ruins your day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Or like when you flip a photo. I hate when you flip the folk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have a good side, yeah, but then when you flip a good side for me side barely acceptable. I have a lot of dental issues, so shout out to all the people in the comments want to know when I get my braces off. There are a lot of stuff going on.

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Speaker 2: We'd also love time.

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Speaker 1: I would love to know too, But I've had teeth taken out because they were so jammed and in this process now for a long time. So yes, I am aware that I still have braces, but I have a side where they took out a couple of teeth to give other teeth room to grow, and they have they have pulled, and they have pulled so far because of these braces for so long. There's space now to put in some implants. But I don't like pictures from that side because it just looks like a big gap or.

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Speaker 2: No, or when we take a selfie and you want the writing to be the exact way, I hate it on you flipp it because I don't like how.

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Speaker 1: I don't like backwards writing and photos.

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Speaker 2: I don't like how I look when you flip the photo.

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Speaker 1: You like grati the way.

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Speaker 2: I think it's very nice right right leg that I have.

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Speaker 1: That was the other thing I was gonna say. You ever look in the mirror and see some grays and you're like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Do I I don't even have to look in the mirror. Have we told the story on this podcast before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've told it before.

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Speaker 2: Should we tell it again?

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Speaker 1: No, we're good.

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Speaker 2: I think we should tell again.

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Speaker 1: That's not only not like getting a haircut now, is because they get rid of some of the grays.

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Speaker 2: So four years ago, during the pandemic, you know, couldn't get my hair done. I am a natural brunette, but it's like a very mousey brown and I don't like it. So we are walking back in the house. We've been spending time on the back patio, and you're looking at me this weird look, and I think it's about to be one of those sweet moments where you're like, I'm just looking at you and thinking about how much I love you. And then we're no longer separated by the pandemic and I'm like what, And you're like, Oh, it's just in this light you can see some of your grays. And I said, oh, in this lake, can you see your life flash before your eyes? And I did, and I'm aware. I also had a dermatologist once who when she was doing a scalp check, she said, do the people in your family gray early? Because you have more grays and I was like, lady, I've had gray since I was eighteen. I'm a high stress individual. She then also had me pull down my mask, and in COVID times she just goes rosetia pull that back up. I did leave crying from that appointment, but I am distracted because I am due to get the grays covered. So if anyone's watching this on YouTube, please don't tell us that he still has braces.

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Speaker 1: We know I'm aware and that.

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Speaker 2: I have great hair because I'm also aware.

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Speaker 1: But if you're not watching on YouTube and just listening on the podcast, you can subscribe YouTube dot com slash Mike d. Strow. We are here to talk movies. Nice is great here, but we are here to do our movies of the month and worse for November. We'll get into a spoiler free review of Gladiator, and then in the trailer park, Disney is doing another live action adaptation of a classic. We'll talk about snow White. Why I think, ooh, they wasted some money there, did they ever?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Man? But thank you for listening, thank you for being subscribed. Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now let's talk movies.

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Speaker 1: Let's get right into it. Movies of the Month for November. What was the best thing we watched? In your opinion?

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Speaker 2: As if you've enough to ask, the green lights behind my head didn't tell you it is Wicked.

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Speaker 1: Is it a movie that you've been thinking about every day since? Because that is my sign of Oh, that was a good movie.

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Speaker 2: I think about it. I watched tiktoks about it. The soundtrack comes up on Spotify. I said that weird. Oh, I was gonna say, shuffle on Spotify.

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Speaker 1: Suffle Spotify and you got the internet radio on your phone.

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Speaker 2: Popular has been coming on Gracy Abrams Radio. So I have been listening to Popular.

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Speaker 1: So is it the popular from the movie or the popular from the musical?

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Speaker 2: The movie? You know? I think about holding space for the lyrics of define gravity about once a day. I want to go see it again. I tell other people to go see it. I ask people if they've seen it, so, yeah, it does consume a lot of my brain power.

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Speaker 1: That is something I've felt. I've rarely leave a movie and think about it so much that I want to go see it again. And I do want to go see this movie again. And it is a two hour twenty almost two and a half hour movie to forty ten minutes of credits. Do you know I timed that movie? It timed out to two thirty.

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Speaker 2: He does time every month. Yeah, time a lot of suff.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for the most part, when you see a movie, time you can cut off ten minutes. But the problem is, oh, it never starts on that time, and oh I hate it for some people who don't know that. And you get there so early because at least at Regal it's thirty minutes. Now they do ten minutes of just raw commercials and then twenty minutes of previews.

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Speaker 2: It's weird the commercials.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I'm already paying to go see a movie in theaters. I don't need to see normal commercials. I feel like that is like, why are we doing this? That's gonna take somebody who doesn't come to the movies that often and kind of ruin that experience. I don't want to be advertised to here the movies. Yeah, that's fine, more trailers so you come back and watch another movie. But I don't want to see a commercial for a car when I'm at the movies. But I have really been wanting to go see Wicked again because I feel like there's a lot of details now that I missed, and like you mentioned, seeing things on TikTok about it and seeing more people dive into it. I still haven't been exposed to any spoilers.

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Speaker 2: It's not again it's spoilers, but I don't want to know. For twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Years, I know, but at this point of my life, I do not want to know what is going to happen in part two.

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Speaker 2: But what if we go to New York and we see it on Broadway.

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Speaker 1: That's different because I feel they're gonna make the movie a little bit different from the musical, and I feel like if people have seen the musical before, you're probably it's like reading the book. You know they're gonna have some differences between the two, and I think that's a little bit more fun.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But I have seen people reading the Wicked book, and if anyone's trying to read it. It is a very dark book. It's i've heard dark explicit. It's not like whimsical, so be warned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes into some pretty like interesting details about the boat that I don't think a kid would want to read.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't pick up the Wicked Book thinking you're about to read something fun.

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Speaker 1: I did go back and I rewatched The Wizard of Oz when last weekend without me. I'll rewatch it again. I'll watch that movie every day. I love it. I like Saturday morning, I just started it.

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Speaker 2: It's so rude.

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Speaker 4: How is it rude watching a movie we both seen. It's not like I rewatched it. Watch it and I'll rewatch it again. And we've both already seen it. It's not like we were I started a show without you.

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Speaker 2: It's to rewatch a movie on Saturday morning when you know I sleep.

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Speaker 1: I watched like two other movies in that time, so I was like, okay, i'll watch this one now. It's surprisingly shorter than I remember. I mean it's like an hour and a half, so it's a quick watch. But I did some research on that. Because Warner Brothers owns the rights to Wizard of Oz and it's not public domain until twenty thirty five, so that leads me to believe that they are building up towards remaking The Wizard of Oz because once it's public domain, it's free game for people to make it. I don't know if you can rebuy the rights to have it reset for another one hundred years. But who do you think should play Dorothy in a remaking of the Wizard of Oz? I started thinking about that, like who kind of fits.

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Speaker 2: Advance warning about thinking about this, She'd put me on the spot right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like you would have somebody in mind because you really don't have to be I mean, Judy Garland could sing, but I almost feel at this point you don't have to be a singer you could have because I think that's kind of hard to find somebody at the level of like Carpenter to Herbie Dorothy dire hair Brown. I was thinking like a Daisy Ridley, Like you're just.

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Speaker 2: Gonna pick one of the Daisies for everything right now, Jones.

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Speaker 1: Jones, I just feel like you need somebody who already has like the hair.

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Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't see Daisy Ridley in a whimsical musical.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she's a little bit too old for that role.

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Speaker 2: Daisy Edgar Jones. I could, yeah, actually, because when she was doing the Twisters press tour, everyone's like, what's one thing people don't know about you? And she's like, I'm quite silly, and she's like in her mid twenties. I can see Daisy ugar Jones.

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Speaker 1: I'll go with my other Daisy, my backup Basy.

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Speaker 2: Which we did rewatch Twisters. Some things giving that we.

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Speaker 1: Did and we blew up the air mattress and rewatched that movie.

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Speaker 2: Great, great experience. Sometimes being an adults fun, Like just blow up the air mattress for mad a cookie cake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nobody who can tell you not to. That was always something I wanted to do as a kid, like blow up an air mattress or create like a pillow for it and watch movies with in. I never did it. Now I've done it. It's fun.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 1: My best of the month for.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't done talking about Wicked. Oh you got more'n you didn't even let me finish. You sidetracked on the remaking of the Wizard of Us. Okay, even if and I we did the review. I forgot already. We did that after we saw it. Even if you're not a musical person a theater person, go see it. It's so well done. I know people are like, this pressed tour they've done is wild, and I do admit it is strange to watch them cry in every interview, but you know what, they're proud of their work. It was an experience, and I think they both should be proud of it because they're both phenomenal in it. And I think it's just so good. And even if you're like, wow, two and a half hours, it doesn't feel like it and like another movie we're gonna talk about. So yeah, go see Wicked.

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Speaker 1: Good now, Yes, all right? For my best of the month, I'm going with A Real Pain, which was a story with Kieran Colkin.

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Speaker 2: You said it right this time?

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Speaker 1: Okay, making sure guess thee Eisenberg and I feel that movie really hit me on an emotional level that I wasn't quite expecting.

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Speaker 2: TikTok about that made me really sad.

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Speaker 1: That I feel like Jesse Eisenberg's character in the movie. Yeah, why to make you said.

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Speaker 2: Because you looked sad while talking.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how emotional I was you looked.

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Speaker 2: So sad you came home, and I was like, do you need a hug?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, why, See, sometimes when I do reviews, I just like I have to go off raw emotion. That is how I based a lot of my reviews. And that one we left the theater and I felt weird that something was so oddly specific to me in a movie about just like my personality and stuff I've been like dealing with, like my whole life. And I think when I sat down to record that review, I was like, this is gonna kind of feel like a therapy session because it's stuff i've I mean, I've talked to you about that, and maybe not in that explicit way, just because I just thought that was something that only I dealt with. But seeing somebody else go through that, of just that feeling of like wanting to be more outgoing, wanting to connect with people more, and I was like, man, this movie just hit me. And I didn't know how. I didn't really know what that movie was going to be about. About their entire journey of like being close and then kind of being estranged, going back for a really dark reason after their grandma died and then you have all the other emotions mixed in with why they are there going to that concentration camp, and just like, man, where's this movie going. But there's also like some fun moments in it, some really good bonding moments, and I think character yeah, and it's yeah, like a really unique just blend of people. And it doesn't feel like a traditional movie in the sense that it's not like a this happens, therefore, this happens, Therefore this happens, here's the rising act, here's the fault. It doesn't really follow that. It just felt like a movie about life. And I enjoy those movies every now and then. It's a nice little slice of life that you go through something from beginning to end. It's not so much that you follow this character's journey and they accomplishing amazing. It's just like you feel all these things. That was my best What what did you rate Wicked Again? You gave it a five out of five?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think you gave it a five out of five when we did it, because I gave it a four point five out of five because I was split into two for a real pain. I gave that one a four point five out of five and so forth. For the year, I have not given out a five out of five.

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Speaker 2: I loved a real pain. I would also say, like you would categorize me, you knowing me as someone who's outgoing. I'm an introvert, but I can strike up a conversation. I can make friends at the post office.

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Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, that's why you make me better, is because you are the one who can talk to people and connect with people, and you make me more normal because without you, I'm just like the isolated. Here's this dude not saying.

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Speaker 2: Anything, but I will say I once had a boss. Among all the other insults she gave me, she told me I was socially awkward.

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Speaker 1: That is bizarre.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying so, like even someone saw me as that, So it's like we all have a little bit of socially awkwardness in us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that all perspective?

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Speaker 2: The other the other insult she gave me that I loved it was a like informal setting, so I could wear like shorts and a T shirt in the summer. I wore a dress one time and she was like, Oh, you're so much skinnier when you're not hiding behind pants and shorts, and I was like, oh, little backhanded compliment there, Yeah, she'll stop me. I'm socially awkward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's bizarre. That's not true whatsoever. I'm socially awkward.

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Speaker 2: Not as much as you think. You're just in your head about it. Yeah, I guess so less socially awkward than you think. You just when you are thinking, you're overthinking. So you just need to stop thinking.

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Speaker 1: Just live inside that head though. All right, for the worst of November, what do you have?

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Speaker 2: Are you not entertained? No? I was not entertained by Gladiator too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to do this in the movie review coming up, so I will say nothing and I will let you go why you hated?

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Speaker 2: Why want to give any spoilers, But there was just some really stupid CGI. I don't love movies from that time period.

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Speaker 1: Pieces technique over here Street just make less money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like bloody Gore. I'm not big into like a severed.

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Speaker 1: Head, which is kind of really Scott's calling card.

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Speaker 2: And it's the same didn't Napoleon?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you didn't like it. It's over over the top blood and guts and like the real visceral sound of like a blade going in.

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Speaker 2: And I watch medical shows. I watch all those things.

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Speaker 1: So it's the violence, is it the violence more so than the gore.

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Speaker 2: It's the violence, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because I've seen some of the medical shows you watch there's like blood loosing out where I was surprised. I'm like, hey, that's cool, that doesn't bother. I didn't know you liked this stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's like someone coming at someone in like the slicing.

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Speaker 1: Of the head so hated Game of Thrones.

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Speaker 2: Or like the bayonet and then they pull it out and the sound effect. Yeah, I just wasn't into that. The plotline was kind of like up down, up down, so we had something coming and then it's like I could have seen that from a mile away. Yeah. The Joseph Quinn's eye makeup, the smoke ye really intense.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was distracting his paleness too.

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Speaker 2: He was like.

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Speaker 1: A history thing right where they would like put makeup on to make themselves pale because that showed you had money or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were probably using like real like things of charcoal paint that on. Yeah. I wasn't. I didn't go into it thinking I was gonna love it. But I was like, we got to see all the Blockbusters, so I went to see it.

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Speaker 1: Did you at least like Denzel Washington's character or he is acting?

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Speaker 2: I liked Paul Mescal. Yeah, I thought Paul Mascal was great.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he was convincing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very attractive, very in shape for that movie.

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Speaker 1: For my worst of November, I am going to say here with Tom Hanks speaking of bad CGI, that was some bad special effects with They had tod age him to be a teenager, and I think the d aging just isn't quite there yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe if you're deaging someone a little younger, No disrespect mister Hanks, big fan, lovely man in person.

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Speaker 1: To go from being in your late sixties to being a teenagers off like that just doesn't look very good. He looked like his character did in the Polar Express, which same director, by the way, Roberts and Mexis. But he looked like that.

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Speaker 2: That's when we haven't rewatched at Christmas time in any of the years Polar Express, we've never rewatched them.

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Speaker 1: I think I've only seen it maybe once. That was when that technology was so that type of three D animation they use was so new that it looks so bad for the I mean for now. Maybe at the time it looked good. But that used to be my favorite thing as a kid. I think in like first or second grade, we would read the book and we'd all get to dress and pajamas to school. That was my favorite. I remember us all going down the hall in our pj's, and I think at that time I was still into Thomas the Tank Engine, so I had like Thomas the Tank Engine slippers, or at least kept him FM kindergarten. If it was first grade, you.

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Speaker 2: Were in Thomas the tank Engine phase for a while. Your mom has stories about that.

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Speaker 1: That was my jam I couldn't leave the house without watching it.

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Speaker 2: No, your mom always talks about how she'd be like, all right, Mike, you have to go to the grocery store, and you'd be like, no.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not going. I'm gonna but yes. Aside from the CGI, it was just the most mid movie I've seen all year, for the level of talent on the acting side and for the level of talent behind the camera, And it didn't really shape up until the end of the movie, and by then it was just kind of late, and I know you wanted to see that movie and you were like, Oh, you're gonna see without me.

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Speaker 2: To be really honest, I kept forgetting the title of it.

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Speaker 1: So it's a horrible title.

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Speaker 2: You said you were seeing here. I was in Denver that weekend. I was just like a horror movie and I was like, Oh, it's that one. It was one of those I just And then the other night my mom texted me and she's like, I'm watching here, same thing. I was like, scary movie, and then she was like love Tom Hanks and I was like, oh that movie. So yeah, it's a bad title forgetting that.

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Speaker 1: That was the title of it a homonym. So it's like is it here like you can listen, or is it here like right here, oh, big vocapboard. I think I remember that from like a Doctor SEUs book or something. It all takes place in the same piece of land over his like starting back from like the dinosaur age all the way till like twenty twenty past.

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Speaker 2: I think it ends in dinosaur age.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like back in like it just shows like a sliver of land. You see dinosaur roaming the earth, and then you see like the Revolutionary War all that stuff, and then it all just keeps going, stays the same camera angle the entire time, which was like the big like, oh this is interesting. It's gonna force you to look at just right here, and they kept emphasizing we grew up here, we did all this stuff here, it all happened here, but there was all this backstory that it was just kind of pointless, like showing you these different plot lines of these different people who lived on the same plot of land that really went nowhere, that had no emotional development, and it was just like, I, why am I here? Why am I playing in this theater? And that was also one where I got tickets kind of later, so I had to sit it like the very top row, and I was like all the way behind, and I was like, I'm not enjoying this whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't sit through that one.

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Speaker 1: So that is my worst of the month. The other movies we watched here was the first one So a Real Pain, Wicked Part one Blitz that almost made one of my favorites of the month as well, So Good, which was a movie that you wanted to watch because it's World War two, duh, and you watch any movie world War Two, any TV show, read any book?

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: I think the issue I had when it comes to TV shows and movies about it is they always kind of feel the same because it's always sad. And this one, I mean, obviously it's World War two, it's going to be sad, but it's not the sad you're expecting. And it's because it follows this kid and his journey of just trying to get back home and be reunited with his mom. Was this movie Was it based on a true story?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if their story was true, but parents in London sending their kids like to the countryside of Europe is true. They would send a lot of them to America and they live with the cohost families spread several books about.

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Speaker 1: That, so yeah, inspired by true events, yes, which it works the same way. It doesn't take anything away from the emotional impact of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's it's a little unbelievable, so I don't feel.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: There's also a lot of stories that'll come out of World War Two of people doing things, and you're like, you will believe all the stories I read about people that lived in like Poland and lived in the literal Sewers didn't think that was true, but it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very cinematic. I really enjoyed that one.

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Speaker 2: Socialonem was great.

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Speaker 1: That one's on Apple TV Plus so you can watch that one for free. So glad day or two. We saw the Christmas movie Our Little Secret. Should we wait to talk about Christmas movies for another episode?

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Speaker 2: I can just say I loved it, you loved it. It was cute. It was the best one Netflix has done so far this year. I have not watched the one where Chad Michael Murray is an exotic dancer Dnswer. Yeah, I think I've heard he's a one of my one of my friends at work called it a clean stripper. I can't take Chad Michael Murray seriously in the year twenty twenty four, two thousand and three. Is Lucas Scott sure heart Throb twenty twenty four when he's like still trying to be relevant, it's so cringey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw him do that one interview where he's like, name one actor who has never fallen off, like every actor falls off at some point, and you could just tell it was coming from like a very emotional place that he struggles with and I was like, well, Leonardo DiCaprio has never fallen off, Robert de Niro, Jennifer la and Washington. Yeah, there's a lot of actors friendly Cooper, so I just feel like he was like, uh, gonna make something up.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed our little secret. Lindsay Lohan greatest comeback of all time. I love it for her. I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: I do want to play a game with everybody listening right now, see if you can figure out this riddle. We went to a movie and there was these people sitting next to us. It was a group of guys and they had their tickets and they were seated, you know, they had drinks and everything. This other couple comes up and they're like, hey, you're in our seats. And they're like, well, let's figure this thing out. They both pull out their phones and they both say, no, these are our seats. We have D five and six. We have D five and six.

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Speaker 2: The group of guys had four through six, and then this couple is claiming they had five and six.

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Speaker 1: So what you think happened here? As the listener, what was the issue here? Who was in the right and who was in the wrong. It turns out, initially I would think this has happened to me us before. And what happened? They had the wrong theater, So that's what I thought initially, like they were supposed to be at a different regal and this day I figured it out, Yes, in this case, same theater. They looked at the ticket again, Oh, this is the theater. We're at the same one. Okay. Then I thought, maybe they have the wrong time. We were at a seven to twenty five showing. Maybe they had picked a different time and got there at the wrong time. Not the case, same time on the ticket, seven to twenty five, same seats, same theater.

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Speaker 2: And by theater you mean like the specific regal, not the auditorium screen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the next thing. Could it be a different screen? Nope, screen sixteen. We're here at the same time. What do you think was the issue here? What do you think happened? And the.

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Speaker 2: Do do do?

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Speaker 4: Do?

00:23:03
Speaker 1: I would be so good at Final Jeopardy? Actually no, that's the hardest gan to be terrible at it?

00:23:07
Speaker 2: Can I say?

00:23:08
Speaker 1: And the answer is Kelsey, what happened?

00:23:10
Speaker 2: They bought tickets for the wrong day the wrong day?

00:23:13
Speaker 1: Because it was blowing my mind too.

00:23:15
Speaker 2: I figured it out quick.

00:23:16
Speaker 1: We're like right, same seat, same time. I thought it had to be they went to the wrong regal, which is I've seen that happen before, Like, oh, I'm with the one across town.

00:23:24
Speaker 2: I got out the regal app and I was like pretending that's what I did. We learnt tickets and I was like, okay, next day, and I was like, ooh, seats five and six taken for tomorrow.

00:23:32
Speaker 1: They got the wrong date.

00:23:33
Speaker 2: So then there was an awkward thing where they walked out they were gonna go like check with someone, and then the guy that had the seats was also walking out, and the girl kind turns out and she was like, oh, I didn't mean you had to come with us, and the guy was like, I'm not, I'm going to the bath. So then they later came back in and they had to seat sit in seats in the second row because they definitely were there for the wrong day.

00:23:54
Speaker 1: Their next definitely hurt Buddy in the night acci that was their ingladiator, though another thing happened this is an game, but during Mawana. Well, first of all, when we got in there, the lights were bright. They didn't turn down the main lights, which it just felt like we were in like a big auditorial with a lot of families that I felt very exposed. It's weird the level of comfort the darkness brings in.

00:24:15
Speaker 2: Don't want to see how old those seats are. Yeah, I love to live in obliviousness. That was seeing an airplane.

00:24:22
Speaker 1: It was like pulling back the curtain. And initially I thought I was like, oh, no, I sure hope they turned on the lights by the time you get here, because he's gonna be more tofied at these seats.

00:24:30
Speaker 2: They did not.

00:24:31
Speaker 1: They did not. The movie was about to start.

00:24:32
Speaker 2: I could tell kids were are the lights on?

00:24:35
Speaker 1: And I could tell we were in a theater where maybe families don't come as often as we do. I don't think a lot of people go as often as we do. And I knew the movie was about to start and the lights should have been down by this point, because they're usually down and then they go down further once the movie starts. So I went to go tell them that the lights were still up. And now I know where the light switches, so if ever it happens again, I could just go turn them off myself. But then what happened again towards the end of the movie, the lights on the back on and like one of the most emotional parts, like all right, movies over it did and I see you have.

00:25:06
Speaker 2: Another note too. We need to talk about your other note about it?

00:25:09
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was getting to that one next. But that was just another thing. If ever the lights come on into the theater, just don't look around, Just immediately get up and go find an employee because you did not want to see the condition of the seats.

00:25:21
Speaker 2: You don't, you really don't.

00:25:23
Speaker 1: The other issue I had this was when we went to go see Gladiator. I made the mistake of raw dogging a sweatshirt, meaning I did not wear a T shirt underneath, because right now we're in wintertime is so cold and it's cold and for the most part, movie theaters are cold.

00:25:40
Speaker 2: But they had cranked the heat that night.

00:25:41
Speaker 1: But for some reason, this theater was like it was hot a hot box. It's like they turned off the ac, turn off the fans, and turned on the heater. So I went into it thinking that we were going to be in a nice, cool theater. I was like, oh, maybe I'll just be nice and cozy, and my my hoodie I'll put my pockets in there, I'll put my snack in there. And it was so hot, and I didn't have a T shirt on underneath, so I spent the entire movie sweating.

00:26:06
Speaker 2: Yeah you were. You were having a rough time.

00:26:08
Speaker 1: And now it's so uncomfortable because before I'd done the opposite of regretting that breaking a sweater and I've been freezing in movies. I think it's much worse not wearing a shirt underneath than being stuck.

00:26:18
Speaker 2: Hot, Haven't I tall? You layer?

00:26:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just felt so confident in just not wearing a shirt underneath.

00:26:24
Speaker 2: So layer, always layer on an airplane, layer at the movie.

00:26:27
Speaker 1: I just like the feeling of just having a sweater on. It just feels more comfortable to me. It depends on the interior fabric. It feels like I'm wearing like a blanket, just straight on. So a lesson.

00:26:37
Speaker 2: She didn't wear your Spiderman blanket, you'd have been a real hot died. Speaking of Spiderman blanket, you walked out of our bedroom earlier, and we have like a so my desk is in our living room because someone gets the office in the list.

00:26:48
Speaker 1: Tell your version of the story.

00:26:50
Speaker 2: So the blanket basket for the living room is next to my desk, and your Spider Man hoodie had fallen out of it earlier, so just picked it up in through back and I'm sitting at my desk typing, working and you you're like, do you wear my Spider Man hoodie?

00:27:02
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

00:27:02
Speaker 2: I was like, excuse me, and you're like, it's moved, and I said, that's what you noticed has been moved in this house. That's what you notice is out of place. It's never the trash by the door that needs to be taken out. It's the spider Man hoodie that is off by like a centimeter.

00:27:16
Speaker 1: You wore it.

00:27:17
Speaker 2: I didn't wear it. I didn't.

00:27:19
Speaker 1: You're like, I want to know what this feels like.

00:27:21
Speaker 2: No, Nope, because you always put your feet in it. I don't want to.

00:27:24
Speaker 1: Wear it's an all body blanket.

00:27:26
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not wearing anything that your feet of touch.

00:27:30
Speaker 1: But that is a lesson. Never a raw dog a sweatshirt to a movie.

00:27:33
Speaker 2: Please stop saying around because you.

00:27:35
Speaker 1: Will have a bad time. We've been going a while now, but we can do our TV shows of the month? Was your favorite TV show?

00:27:43
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what I watched this month, I'll go for We're also gone. Yeah, it was gone for two weekends.

00:27:47
Speaker 1: We crammed everything in. Towards the end of November.

00:27:49
Speaker 2: I watched The Diplomat season two on Netflix.

00:27:51
Speaker 1: Do you like that?

00:27:52
Speaker 2: I did. It's really hard though, And I told you I was gonna bring this up, so about The Diplomat too, and about this show on Apple TV. Streaming services have to stop putting two plus years in between seasons. I don't know what happened anymore. The amount of TV and books I read season one out of my head, gone minute, I'm done watching it. Gone, Like Apple is putting back out that show's surface. I was like, sounds familiar. It's coming out in February twenty twenty five. It aired July through September of twenty twenty two. We've got to stop putting such a long period of time, or your recap episode needs to be an hour long. Yeah, I don't know what happened, thank you.

00:28:31
Speaker 1: That is an issue. I think that's also streaming services. I mean, TV shows are so expensive to make, and they don't really make a whole lot of money like movies do. Like instantly a movie comes out. It can make money, but I just feel like overall streaming services are hurting financially, so I think I mean, it's also less episodes too. If you think about a lot of those episodes now or seasons or eight ten episodes maybe.

00:28:52
Speaker 2: Listen, Virgin River comes out once a year on Netflix. Some shows can do it ten episodes. It does come out in two weeks, so I don't clear my calendar for that.

00:28:58
Speaker 1: For my best TV show in the month, it was easily The Penguin. If I had to rate a TV show, I was it close to a five out of five because at moments it had you rooting for the penguin and you forget that he's a villain, and by the end of it, it reminds you, oh, he's a villain. And I think I love it so much because I did The Batman with Robert Pattinson was like one of my favorite portrayals of the character. And now I cannot wait to see how this ties into the Batman two, which I think it's good. Like, I don't think they're gonna put anything out in between that because Batman two is supposed to come out in twenty twenty six, so far away. Again with movies too. It takes so long, but these things are so freaking expensive. But yeah, that was my favorite show. And Diane, you got a book.

00:29:44
Speaker 2: Ye, I don't remember what I read this month. Let's see, let's go to my We will be doing my yearly best books. But I will do a plug for this now. So I'm using this new reading app called story Graph. It's great, created by a woman. It has like much better functionality. You can rate by quarter stars, so you can give like a four point two five, a four point five, a four point seven five, whereas on Goodreads you can only give something whole stars, and a four is very different from four point seven five. But then I have to read a four point seven five of five, and I don't mean that it's really a five because a five is outstanding. So story Graph great. They also create these cool little like graphics and charts for you of like the different books you read, by the genre, the page number, the pace of books.

00:30:23
Speaker 1: Story Graph do we put in the episode notes?

00:30:25
Speaker 2: Should? It's amazing? Okay, what did I read this month? Okay? I'm gonna go with The Brier Club by Kate Quinn historical fiction, pre visual but not about World War Two. It is post World War two in like the McCarthy era, so when they were really worried about communism in the United States. Kate Quinn is one of my favorite historical fiction writers, and it's about this group of women that lives in like the Sporting House, and how their stories tied to each other. And it takes you through. It's almost kind of like a mystery at the beginning, and then you go back and like each woman has a chapter detailing their backstory. Really well done. Loved that one. I just love anything Cake Quinn. Right, So, yeah, that's my book of the month. Uh.

00:31:06
Speaker 1: Comic i'm reading right now is Absolute Batman. I read issue one and two. It's the comic that took me forever to find.

00:31:11
Speaker 2: It did take a long time to find the one.

00:31:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, Issue too is really good. That's really all I'm reading right now. I would say that my goal in twenty twenty five is going to be to finish a book, but I just can't do it. I'm going to commit to comics and graphic novels.

00:31:23
Speaker 2: There you go. I think that's fine, read what you enjoy, but we will do I'm on my goal this year with eighty books and I'm reading. I'm reading like four books right now, but I will finish eighty soon. But I think the one I'm reading could be in my top ten list, so I need to finish it before we record that.

00:31:41
Speaker 1: There you go, anything else you want to talk about.

00:31:43
Speaker 2: I did go start making my list, and I don't think any of the books that are my favorites of the year revolved around men. Shocking, I know. Oh. I also read one. It was called When Women Ran Fifth Avenue. Very interesting if you're into the history of New York fashion. It's about how Fit Avenue became this huge shopping mecca and like all of the department stores back then, and how at one point women were running all of them. And I thought that was very fascinating.

00:32:11
Speaker 1: While you were saying that, I realized something ironic. I'm round dog in this sweatshirt.

00:32:16
Speaker 2: I don't think everyone needed to see that much. Trust here.

00:32:19
Speaker 1: All right, We'll come back and do a spoiler free review of Gladiator too, because you hated it, all right? Alright, alright, let's get into a spoiler free movie review of Gladiator two. Before we talk about two. Let's talk about one because I would say my relationship with the first one is really wasn't one of my favorite movies in the two thousands, I can recognize its impact. Really, Scott obviously made that movie with the intent, I think of making a more I don't want to say, completely historically accurate movie, but he did draw a lot of inspiration from actual historical figures to create Russell Crow's character. So Russell Crost's character from the first movie is based on a lot of people. And if I watched that movie, which I actually rewatched it going into this winter, just because I wanted to be refreshed. Back when that movie came out, I was pretty young when I watched it. I remember watching it on DVD and thinking, Wow, that was a cool movie, and then I never really thought about it again. I'll be honest, it's just not one of my favorite movies. But to some people, this is a covied movie that a lot of people were upset that it was getting a sequel. I've been there before. There have been movies that have made sequels that I was like, you should not do it. Don't mess with the original, You're only going to make it worse. I wasn't on that level with this movie. Didn't have that personal relationship. Gladiator one and I didn't hook up. We knew each other, we were friends, we were acquaintances, but it was more like, oh, another Gladiator movie. That's cool, they're casting Paul Meskel. You know, I really only know him from After Son a couple of other movies, mainly from being Phoebe Bridger's ex boyfriend. I couldn't really see him in that role just because all the movies I have seen him in he's been an indie darkling. So I was going into this just wanting to watch a fun movie. Had no real expectations into it. You throw Denzel Washington in there, I'm all in for it. But to some people, they were wanting to see something as good as the first one, and I didn't have those expectations. So what Gladiator Too is about takes place about sixteen years after that original movie. If you haven't seen it at this point, I feel like this movie kind of tells you what happens at the end of Gladiator. Because Russell Crowe is not in this movie, maybe some people haven't seen it, maybe some people still want to watch that one before this movie. I think that is common movie knowledge by Now the movie is over twenty years old at this point, so it far exceeds the spoiler warning. So if for some reason you don't know what happens to Russell Crow's character, fast forward in this skip this on YouTube. He dies, so he's not in this one, and that is this movie is about sixteen years after his death. You have Paul Meskal's character. I believe I am pronouncing his name right. I am so fixated on names now after being called out by saying some people's names wrong, which I believe is how you say his name Mescal not Mescal, because I think he gets people confusing it with the alcohol. But anyway, Paul Meskal's character starts out at the beginning of this one and he loses everything. He is trying to defend his city, trying to defend his home, and Pedro Pascal's character comes in and basically Rex House takes over the place in the name of the Roman Empire, and then he is captured and has to be forced to become a gladiator thrown into the coliseum, much like Russell Crow did in the first one. Now, big difference is between the first act of this movie and the first act of Gladiator one. A lot of similarities a lot of parallels throughout the entire film, but I would say where it differs the most is how our characters get into the coliseum as far as the timeline, and what I liked about the first one is you spend a lot more time with Russell Crow's character, getting to know how badass he is and seeing all those things of him fighting people, how much of a warrior he is. I think my favorite scene in that first movie is whenever he is straight up prisoner and finds a way to escape and then grabs the sword with his hands like that was an awesome moment that sets you up for the rest of the movie that he is going to be a force to be reckoned with. But in Gladiator two, everything happens a lot more quickly. It still starts out with a big battle, much like Gladiator one did, but you get less time to know Paul Meskal's character, and really you are only told how strong and how much of a fighter he is in the beginning. You learn that later as he fights more and more people and animals. But I feel like you had more time to spend with Russell Crow's character and you fully got that, Oh, Okay, this dude is awesome. He's going to rip everybody to shreds. With Paul Mess, you kind of had to grow with the character a little bit more. And I feel like that hurt the movie a little bit, because I think that was the one hang up I had going into the movie. Is this guy really going to be able to pull off being a gladiator? But dude committed to getting in shape for the role. He looked great, and by the end of the movie all of my doubts were really gone. I just would have liked to see a little bit more of his development early on, just to have me rooting for him earlier in the movie. But that is getting very nitpicky. I understand that. I always say, in those first twenty minutes you can tell if a movie is going to be good or not. And I could tell that this movie was at least going to be worthy of my time. But I also knew that it was not going to be as good as the original, and I started thinking about how that might feel to some other people. I took into consideration these film bros after the movie who were really upset they hated this movie, And I think why that is is because it tries to be upon the first one, which a good sequel does. And I almost feel like if this would have been a standalone sequel, less people would have had a problem with it. And I think you could have done that because the gladiator format is kind of there. You take the same situation, but just don't try to tie it into that first one whatsoever. I think when they started to do that, the plotline became a little bit more unbelievable. The waters got a little muddy, and all of the webs of how this connected to Hear just didn't quite add up. I think that is what really hurt this movie. If he would have just been an entirely new character, had no connection with that one, it would have felt less like, Oh, you're making this sequel to spit on the grave of the first one. I don't think that's what Ridley Scott was trying to do. And the other thing you have to realize about Ridley Scott, dude is eighty seven years old. He does not care at this point what anybody thinks of his movies. He just doesn't. He is making movies that he wants to make. Why didn't you do that? At eighty seven years old. Look at Napoleon. I feel like he'd been wanting to make that movie for a long time. And the thing that he does is he makes historical dramas with really bloody, intense violence. That is his calling card. And the difference between Gladiator one and two is I feel with Gladiator one he at least tried to pull inspiration from historical facts and be a little bit more accurate, and in this one. For Gladiator two, he straight up just said to people, were you there?

00:39:37
Speaker 2: Like?

00:39:37
Speaker 1: Were you there back in the day? I don't think you were. So I'm gonna make this movie based upon what I've read and based upon the movie I want to make. And that tells me that he doesn't care what you think, and I can respect that. Again, dude is eighty seven years old, has made amazing movies throughout his career, is a legendary director. Why should I be questioning his decisions? The studio isn't The studio is letting them make these movies. This movie was in development starting back in twenty eighteen. They didn't start filming until twenty twenty two. I don't even think we heard until twenty twenty three. That Paul Meskal was cast as the lead, and then you have a fantastic cast with Denzel Washington, who was my favorite in this movie, Pedro Pascal, who was kind of just there. Pedro is solid and everything. I really enjoy him as an actor. I don't know that his presence really took this movie to another level, but I enjoyed his role, and I don't think it was as impactful as anything from the first movie where he had Russell Crow and Joaquin Phoenix, which was just acting on an entirely different level. But so I just think Ridley Scott said out with the intention of I want to do everything that I couldn't fit in that first One grand example of that is the rhino. He wanted that rhino in the first movie. But back when they were making that early two thousands, you have to think you're still in like late nineties technology. The CG guy and special effects weren't there. They couldn't make it happen. And now in twenty twenty four and in the last couple of years that they were making this movie, he could finally get his rhino. What surprised me about that is that rhino didn't look that good. Really, none of the animals looked that good in this movie, and that is what took me out of it. Started with the monkeys, which we're vicious looking. I love that scene, but the monkeys look fake. The rhino looked fake from the trailer. If you've seen the trailer, at least you see they fill the Colosseum with water and there are sharks roaming around in the waters in the colisseum. He says, were you there? Apparently that to him at least that happened. And while it doesn't feel authentic, maybe it's authentic to him. And I could sit here and cry about how it didn't feel real or set in reality, but to be honest, I didn't really care about that. At that point. I was sold on the story. I was able to suspend disbelief and just allow myself to enjoy it because I wasn't holding it to the standards of the first one. Once I realized it wasn't going to be as good. It is just a fun action movie with some real good acting. Rarely do you get a movie that is both fun and has great a level acting from Denzel Washington, Paul Mesk, the entire cast, fantastic actors, and that is really what elevates this movie. If you didn't have them, if you didn't have such a great director as really Scott, this movie would be hot garbage. But you don't have to worry about that because you have really great people making this art. And it might not be what you wanted in the sequel, but I truly believe this is exactly the movie they wanted to make. And a lot of people were saying this was a lazy sequel, I would say, aside from the special effect, which it is just surprising to me, how bad they looked and how cheap they looked. This was a much more expensive movie than the first one. I think almost one hundred million more that they spent on this movie, and it still it didn't quite look like that price tag, and it's unfairly well at the box office, still about one hundred million less at the time of recording this under what the first one made in its entire run. So I still think it'll climb towards that as we go through the holiday season. I don't know if it's gonna be as profitable now because it already cost one hundred million dollars more but that was the only part to me that felt lazy in any way. And I don't know if it was just too ambitious of special effects to have some of these animals that it was gonna be hard for this not to look fake. And I know a lot of people were complaining about the use of CGI and special effects. When it comes to filling out the colisseum, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna get thousands and thousands of extras in there? I don't think that is gonna happen. There are other little things that you think about. As people are speaking in the coliseum, there's no microphones and they're speaking out into the abyss, and you're assuming that everybody there can hear. So there are just some things that aren't going to add up when it comes to those little details. But I would say overall, the action is there, the performances are there, and even though the animals don't look the way I would envision them to look in a movie that costs this much, it's really not that distracting unless you're just being like, oh, why does that thing look so weird?

00:44:23
Speaker 2: To me?

00:44:24
Speaker 1: That is just a thing I noticed that I was surprised by but overall, nothing about this screamed cash grab to me. And even if it was the only reason, I feel okay with it in this sense because most times I get annoyed by cash crabs. I feel like it makes me think less of the people who make a movie for that reason. But in one of the plot lines, I feel like Ridley Scott told us why he made this movie. Because this movie focuses a lot on power, particularly the cost of power. Legacy is what you inherit from the past. And there is one moment that I won't reveal every thing that has spoken and all the details around it, but they make a reference to why people do certain things, and the reason they give is because of money. And I feel like that was really Scott telling us why would I make a sequel twenty plus years after the original one. I'll tell you in the movie it is because of money. I think he is setting up his family and thinking about his legacy of is he going to leave behind movies that he is truly proud of and does he want to be on his deathbed thinking oh, I just would have made this movie and done it this way, done it my own way. That is what I regret because that's what you regret in life, the things you don't do. I think that is what he is doing at this point in his career. You get the best of both worlds. You make the money, which is the root of power, just like in this movie, and then you leave behind the legacy of all these films. He told us in the plot line. So you can't be mad at that, because he showed his cards. He revealed it to us exactly why he is doing this, exactly why he's made making movies. And most times I would have an issue with the director making a movie without me the viewer in mind. How selfish of them. But it's Raisley Scott. I'm gonna keep going back to the well, even though I know exactly what he's gonna do at this point. So for gladiat Or two, I give it four out of five swords.

00:46:21
Speaker 3: It's time to head down to movie Mike trailer Paul.

00:46:26
Speaker 1: First full trailer for the new Snow White Live action remake is out, and I think it's gonna be Disney's worst bomb. Just looking at the numbers here, which let's break down Snow White by the numbers. The movie cost two hundred and nine million dollars to make. Initially wasn't going to be that expensive, but they had to do a lot of reshoots. This movie has been in development for eight years, took about two and a half years to film, multiple rewrites. I would say, just looking at the trailer, endless amount of scenes with unnecessary CGI. I think initially they were gonna have real actors play the Seven Dwarves. I remember seeing a set photo of snow White with actual actors. They opted out of that because I think they had some pushback online of people not wanting to see that in the movie, saying that probably wasn't the way to go. So now all the Seven Doors are CGI characters and they look freaky. Their facial features just look disturbing to me, and I am an adult man. I can only imagine a kid going to see this movie, especially a younger kid, probably gonna be a little terrified at the Seven Dwarves. They're not cute and friendly like they were in the animated movie, which the animated movie is so good. Their first ever animated movie back in nineteen thirty seven, obviously way before all of our times. And what I love about that movie is it has such a warmth to it, that hand drawn animation, just seeing those characters come to life with the soundtrack. It is the classic. And they have tried to do all different kinds of snow White movies. Not all of them have been Disney because snow White is in the public domain. So you've seen movies like snow White and The Huntsmen and all these prequels and Maleficent, although I think that was still Disney, but they want to go back to their very original movies, their core source material with snow White, and this movie just, oh, it just feels to me like it's gonna have a bad time at the box office. Going back to the numbers right now, the trailer has, at the time of recording this twenty four thousand likes on YouTube. It's pretty good, but it has six hundred thousand dislikes. It might be in history now the most disliked movie trailer of all time on YouTube, and that is not good. So what Disney has done here, much like they've done with their other classic movies, they reimagine them for a live action adaptation. You have snow White being played by Rachel Zegler, Evil Moleficent being played by Galagado. She is the evil Queen, and it looks like this movie isn't going to feature the traditional love story from the Snow White. There is no Prince Charming character. There is a character named Jonathan played by Andrew Burtnapp, but by the looks of this trailer, it looks the plotline they are following along snow White. At her home, she doesn't get along with the evil Queen. Somebody warns her and tells her, you need to leave here because she's gonna try to kill you. So she goes out and lives in the woods, finds the Seven Dwarfs, and then realizes that she needs to go back home and fight for her people, fight for her city because they need her. So maybe something the Seven Dwarfs do inspire her. It still looks like they sing all the same songs. There's just no real love story, so I think they're trying to get away from that. They feel that story is outdated. Rachel Zegler has been very, very opinionated almost how she doesn't even like the story in the original movie, which leads me to believe is she even doing this because she likes snow White or is it just a paycheck. It just seems like nobody associated with this movie really wants to be a part and that is going to be a big issue when you're trying to sell this movie. They're out doing the press run if they don't truly believe in it. And it had so many reshoots and issues and production delays that I just don't feel good about this movie going in the theater. Before I get into more, here's just a little bit of the snow white trailer, magic mirror on the wall. Who is the fairest of them all? Fame is the beauty majesty, a lovely maiden.

00:50:31
Speaker 2: I now behold, I look at you, and I just want to be the fairest of them all. The Queen is evil, evens flee into the woods. Queen, it's a human.

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Speaker 1: What did you think I was nothing? Ghost? So you hear some of the high ho there at the end. One of my favorite teens is when they are like mining and they have like the things in their eyes. You see a little glimpse of that here too. I think the problem with this is that nobody asked for it. I also feel that this story is too classic now to be remade. It is so outdated with the values and just a plot line and the level of storytelling that I think just taking a known property and remaking it doesn't really have that same effect because it's just so outdated. It's too classic. The character of snow White is ancient that I feel that Hollywood has been punching this bag to death and no one cares to see anything about it because it's all something we already know. I don't even feel like kids these days want to go and rewatch the original one because it's so dated. So I just think the time that this story takes place is just not going to work. And if you try to make it so updated where snow White is texting and trying to appeal to gen z and she's a streamer instead of living out in the woods, or you could be like a YouTuber who lives out in nature with seven dudes. Maybe that would work better. But I just feel that a musical at this level isn't going to have the same effect essay a Wicked because it's just not on the entirely same level. If you look at the production design in this trailer and the wardrobe and all the characters, there's just not that craft behind this, you can't feel the love in it. It is from director Mark Webb, who I like. He directed the amazing Spider Man one and two. He did Five Hundred Days of Summer before those movies. I think he is a good director, but I just don't think that even having somebody like him behind this is gonna make me think it is a good movie. And then you have Rachel Segler, who really is a new actress that really hasn't had that breakthrough role yet. She was in the Hunger Games prequel. She was just in y Chu K, which I will review next week. She also had a role in Shazam Fury of the Gods.

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Speaker 2: I thought she was.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good in that. People hated that movie. I at the time I enjoyed it. I still haven't gone back and rewatched that one. I felt like that movie was kind of like a roller coaster to me. I wrote it once. I don't really care to get on it again. But I think she is a good actor. It just feels like her relationship with this movie hasn't been good and she said some things that a lot of people they may have rubbed them the wrong way. So I feel whenever you have somebody like that being so outspoken about not liking things about the original movie, It's gonna make you think that, well, do they even really want to do this movie? Are you buying into them with this character? And when you see other people like Ariana Grande loving the history of the Wizard of Oz and being so invested in it, even tweeting like ten years ago that it was her dream to be a part of Wicked and do this role, and you hear you have her ten fifteen years later actually doing it much different level. I don't think anybody is that passionate that they dreamed of being snow White able to play them whenever their acting career came to fruition. And then you have gal Gado, who is always I feel, a safe choice for studios because she does have success as wonder Woman, she has that name recognition. A lot of people give her crap for not being a good actor. I think she's a good actor. I just feel like she is that safe investment that studios make where they need to find somebody who fits the role but most importantly that they can sell. But even just from the trailer, I don't really see any chemistry or connection between Snow White and the Evil Queen, And there's nothing about the trailer that screams to me, I need to go see this in theaters. And there are some good songs in Snow White, but I don't think it's anything that is heightened by experiencing that with other people. This screams. Disney Plus just has it written all over to me. To me, this is a movie they should have made and put out, and maybe because it has been in development for so long, when they were first launching Disney Plus, whenever they put out the Lie Action Lady in the Tramp Movie when that service first rolled out, and even putting out Pinocchio during the pandemic. This feels on that level to me that it's gonna be very lifeless, very stiff and stale, and a classic tale that just doesn't need to be retold. But I also don't think I am so outraged by the trailer it hate it so much that's gonna stop me from going to Seed in theaters so I can review and talk about it on the podcast. I'm not at a level red one what I now refer to as movies I refuse to see in theaters. I just think at some point they just have to stop remaking these animated movies into live action movies, because when is it going to end? But again, this movie is coming out next year on March twenty first at that for was this week's edition of Movie min Tramer par and that is gonna do it for another episode here of the podcast. Before I go, I got to give my listener a shout out of the week this week. I'm going over to Instagram and shouting out Anthony Miller who tagged me in his Instagram story because he did his Spotify rapped and Movie Mike's Movie Podcast came in at number three. So appreciate that Anthony Miller, and have everybody who tagged me in that, which I super appreciate. Thank you all for listening every single week, making me a part of your day, part of your week. Whenever you go listen, maybe you go listen to a few episodes at once. That means the world to me. And in Anthony's top three, he goes Movie Mike's Movie Podcast, New Heights. I can respect that number one the Bobby Bone Show. So I am in a great top three there. Thank you Anthony, Thank you movie crew. If you haven't posted your rap yet and tag me in it. Do that, and maybe I'll give you next week's listener shout out. And until then, go out and watch good movies and I will talk to you later