Josh Pate Breaks Down CFP First Round W/ Will Compton & Taylor Lewan + Michigan Head Coach Search

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Speaker 1: What a weekend? Where do we even start? Because I'm curious. I know you put out a video. I'm curious to also dive into some some Michigan talk about what even the hell you guys are going to do because it seems like the entire operation and plan some of the strategy had in place just all went to ship within a total of like an hour to the public.

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Speaker 3: Eye, I one hundred percent agree, and I am the public eye, So I like to believe that Michigan has a better game plan than hey. Hopefully Kilin Debor loses to Oklahoma and we'll get him and if not killing Dillingham's chomping at the bit to leave his alma mater in a place he loves more than anything to come to Michigan. I'm hoping the thought process will went a little more farther than that. If you and we talked about this on the bus, if you're a top five program, you want to sit there and like we hear with ed EDDIEO when he's with LSU getting an interim head coach job, he's meeting somebody at a gas station. There's burner phones involved, like we have to cover all bases. If you're the ad, if this happens, this happens, you're always ready for every circumstance. So if something happens that seems catastrophic, got your answers. My thought process in the Michigan thing is this if sorry, sorry, I just I know last week you had this strategy and I was bought into it.

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Speaker 1: Like there's a strategy out there, and now the strategy is just pure hope, like you're just hoping everything's okay.

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Speaker 3: Strategies Pio, I'm gonna play. I'm gonna talk as if the only game Pan was Kailin de Borg Kenydingham. Because if your thought process, if you're Michigan, is those are two guys, then it's everybody else, which there's great coaches out there that could take this job and be very successful. I have no doubt in that. But if thats the Michigan thought process, why would you in your mind settle them for somebody else and just kick the can down the road of the issues you already have, hoping that this person's be successful when there's other two you know would be successful. So for me, it's Biff Pogi. The thought process is twenty twenty six. Say hey, we're gonna go a bit for the year. You frame it as we have a lot more issues than just to the head coaches. Be the person Michigan. It's great for PR You get your president in place who knows what happens to the ward manual, whether he is the guy he is not the guy. Clearly seems like the ball has been fumbled with football, But if you look at every other sport at Michigan, which is the athletic director, not the football director. They're doing a very good job on mat and so maybe he stays he doesn't, but foundationally Michigan needs a whole lot more than just we have a head coach. Now we ever answer, cause the last five years have not been ideal other than a national championship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you would think in a I'm not going to say a perfect world, within the framework of this situation. In a perfect world, you knew that the Sharon fire firing was coming from a long way away, so you had your ducks in a row. They didn't know the Sharon firing was coming.

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Speaker 5: There were rumors I heard him, You heard him.

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Speaker 4: We talked about him a dozen times during the season, but we never knew, like, are we sure they're going to fire him? As it turns out, because they went what nine to three regular season, I don't think they were going to fire him until it all hit the fan the week after the Ohio State game, and then you've got an entire investigation and then they are firing him. But the thing about it is, I'm convinced that Michigan folks woke up the Sunday of that week, not expecting to conduct a coaching search. Because of that, they had to scramble a plan together. And because they had to scramble a plan together, just like Penn State a few months earlier, there were a certain number of candidates that would be obvious, yes, don't even need to get approval for type guys. In Penn State's case, that was Marcus Freeman, that was Kaylin.

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Speaker 5: Guys like that.

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Speaker 4: And then once they quickly Mike Elko was another one. Once they realized we're not getting those guys. Okay, those are like the peak of the mountain. Then the mountain gets really really wide, really really quick towards the base. More people get involved, more voices, more sign offs, more checks and balances. So with Michigan, once you realize, like you said, this happened in like an eight hour span, once you realize it's probably not Kaylan. I don't think it ever was. But once you firmly realize it's not Kaylin, then Kenny says, no, I'm staying home. You're kind of back to square one. You always like to think somewhere behind that curtain, they're just a bunch of mad scientists and they're five steps ahead of us, and they've got a master plan, and if that master plan doesn't work out, it's got several side roads of contingency plans and will be good. It's just a bunch of people who have very very little idea of what tomorrow may bring trying to conduct a coaching search.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the problem. Is based on the reports that have come out since Sharon got fired, is apparently allegedly this was brought to the athletic department in the summertime. Those are the reports that are being set on Twitter. Whether it's true or it's not, let's just say it is true. If you are the people making decisions at the top and you're like, hey, where to conduct this search, a piece of you, an alarm has to go off of if there's validity to this, and the road would be to fire him. What is our contingency plan.

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Speaker 4: That would be if you are the athletic director in this case, we don't know that the AD is the one running.

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Speaker 3: The search, right because it seems like there's multiple camps buying for the top spot to make the decision at the University of Michigan. That's where I sit there and I'm like, yeah, Biff is. If Biff's sat here right now, he would say, I'm not the long term answer for Michigan. What do you take the job? Yes, absolutely, he knows he's not the long term answer. Michigan knows and the fan base knows. But if you're in the position you are in now with the coaching cycle, it's pretty much all the way gone through, and the two guys you thought you had a real shot with that you believed was of Michigan caliber, which is debatable at this point, they're no long on the table. It's like, well, there's gonna be a whole new coaching cycle next year. There's gonna be job availabilities that we didn't see coming, just like we saw this year. There's gona be big names that are back in there, and why not be in the front of the line for next year as opposed to back the line you have a year of uncertainty. Who knows? Like how boosters get behind a donors because there's a level of Michigan arrogance in the donor category where it's like, regardless of who the head coaches, we want to be competitive. They're willing to put money in and be like, hey, if you're the guy, get the players you want the players you can get, and let's be as competitive possible against a gautlet of a schedule. And now you're in the middle of October, you're seeing the board more clearly. You have a better foundation for Michigan and you're able to go this is our guy as opposed to a Russian because today is December twenty second when we're shooting this, I got a Christmas shot the same. The players either today, tomorrow, yesterday, are going to go on Christmas break. You are absolutely foolish if you think these kids are going to go home open presence with their family and not here and have a million conversations about what's revolved around them in the football building. And guys are going to get in their air. You can go here, you can go there. Tampering period is crazy right now, but now you're away from your main storyline and you're talking.

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Speaker 5: To now your parents are tampering with you exactly.

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Speaker 3: They know all the money could possibly Yet this is going to be a very tough Christmas break for Michigan fans, myself included.

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Speaker 1: Ah, losing is not that bad, Wow, losers not that bad like you'll have to deal with weight loss, you have to deal with muscle turning into fat, you have to deal with some short term pains that you'll have to deal with shaved heads. But then you can direct your anger toward other teams and other fan bases and other chaos, and then you just sit back and realize this is just a game. It's just a game at the end of the day. And then you just you gear up for next season. Can you give me one? Can you give me one second gear for next season? But we're gonna take it all.

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Speaker 3: Can you give me a time out? We're gonna put you in the little old box real quick as soundproof. I don't want to end up like that. Yeah, I do not want to become Oh that is you can't hear us, so you can see.

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Speaker 5: Tell you something that used to be Will Compton?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that used to Did you see his eyes?

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Speaker 2: I got bags under my eyes right now.

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Speaker 3: He's got bags under his eyes right And it's like it's like a doll's eyes, like a shark size.

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Speaker 4: They're just they're just glassed over. They're looking off into space. What is he looking at me?

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Speaker 2: Or Jupiter?

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Speaker 3: What is he looking at exactly he was talking to me, but seeing through me, I do not want to become that. His silver lining to me was, you can direct your anger somewhere else.

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Speaker 5: Do you remember the fall? Do you remember week zero, week one?

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Speaker 3: And you know what's fucked up? Josh Is. I'm so glad I can't hear us. When we get on the bus in March, he's gonna pull up the schedule and he's gonna tell me. He's gonna look me in the eyes. You're gonna say ten and two. He's gonna say ten and two again. And being his friend, I'm gonna say, yeah, you're right, I'm riding with you, and if I ever go against it, all, all of a sudden, the bad guy m in the trenches. The anger is getting directed at me when I'm just trying to look at my boy. But hey, all the things you just said, I've kind of said to you. But anyway, I'm worried about him. I don't come that. So let's let him. Should we let him back out of the box.

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do everything I can for you, Okay, I need that. I'm gonna do everything I can for you.

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Speaker 3: My only hope, my only wish is we can go back in time and when Will was starting this journey with Nebraska, you were there to be there the way you're gonna be there for me.

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Speaker 4: I stayed in the Foxhold as long as I could, as long as because.

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Speaker 3: It's not built for everybody, because there's a lot of question marks are revolving around Michigan. But like your three, Matt Ruhle.

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Speaker 5: Like even Dylan left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened that man?

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Speaker 2: We're building the program?

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Speaker 5: Is he reading our lips? He's talking in there. I see him talking in.

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Speaker 2: There, doing something.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, let's get him out of it. I'm sure he's running out of air. You're back.

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Speaker 2: I'm not runn out of air.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm running off a strictly caffeine and Greek yogurt. I found out about sixteen ounces of it. It's all I'm running on. I got a kid at home right now with one hundred and three fever.

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Speaker 5: You gotta scratch on your neck.

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Speaker 2: I gotta stretch scratch on my neck for my one year old. It's just a game.

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Speaker 5: It's just a.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to become. I'm excited. You have to hear that, because we weren't just talking about you. We had a couple of other things, But I really don't want to become what you're doing right now.

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Speaker 4: This this this went from we're going in tonight and someone's not coming back alive.

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Speaker 5: It's just a game.

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Speaker 3: We would have if we die, We died. Why are we taking so serious? That's that's that's me. Soon if Michigan can't figure.

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Speaker 5: It out, you're one or two more no's away from him.

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Speaker 3: And if I could just go back in time and talk to somebody that's making a decision, be like, just call Kenny right now and offer him the job. Because him being a press conference saying they never offered me the job. We knew that, but why not?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was what was funny.

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Speaker 2: The whole time he was playing everybody.

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Speaker 5: I don't do you know why? I don't think he want to address that. My eyes or watering. Well. So a lot of people are saying what you just said.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people think, oh, man, Kenny and his agent just played Michigan.

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Speaker 5: No they didn't.

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Speaker 4: We were like you, now that this is over, you talk with Kenny several times throughout this, did you not?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I talked with Kenny Dillingham like five or six times throughout this. I know Kenny's agent very well. When most people were speculating that they already had an offer and they were negotiating with Michigan, he had never even talked to him.

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Speaker 5: And I don't mean that.

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Speaker 4: Thing where your agent is talking so you can have plausible deniability. I mean, there was nothing in front of him. They really were waiting for Kaylin de Boor and Kenny's just like hanging out there in multiple press conferences at Arizona State saying yeah, I haven't talked to Michigan. This because he hadn't talked to Michigan, he had no idea. You assume the offer is gonna come. You don't know if the offer is gonna come or not, just because the Internet says so, you don't know if the offer's gonna come. So no one played anybody. He was brutally honest this whole time. That's why last week on the show, I said, hey, I don't think just if he gets the offer, it's a slam dunk that he's going to take agree because he actually is truthful when he says I love Arizona State. Now, if you're if you're living in Missoula, Montana, and you say, hey, if you could add the Arizona State job or the Michigan job, which would you take. Well, that guy's taking Michigan. But that guy's not Kenny Dillingham. So it was always going to be a tough pull in the best of circumstances, and Michigan search is not being handled in the best of ways right now.

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Speaker 3: No, it feels that way. We could get a week down the road, it could completely change, but it seems like to me the deadline has kind of is we're at or starting to pass the deadlines where these kids are going to get impatient. Yeah, because they've done a great job of staying in. I think we've had two guys transfer out, both guys you hope for the best for them. And when these kids do leave a lot of Michigan fans are going to be mad. But how can you blame them if they leave and there's no structure or nothing around them to where they go. I feel confident about the growth of my football career hoping to meet to the NFL. That's the shitty part. You sit there and you just go name a guy, and the name you have right now is Biff and you can get all the answers you want, and twenty six and just hope a lot of these kids that say they love Biff, that want Biff, Like Marlon Klein is the was a captain this year, tight end. He said to the press, I want Biff PODi to have be the head coach of Michigan. So if a captain's saying that, and guys are aligned and it feels like dudes are knocking at the door of the ad saying, Biff, we're leaving, then call them on their bluff. Hire Biff. They're probably going to leave. But at the end of the day, man, it's like you can't expect them all to stay anyway. It's twenty twenty six, new one. IL find your guy in twenty six. Don't force it right now because it's too late.

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Speaker 2: Do you want Biff?

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Speaker 3: My call would be Biff if I mean, I think if like Kyle Woodingham.

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Speaker 5: But he asked, He didn't ask who your call would be. He asked, if do you want Biff.

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Speaker 3: The way it feels right now, I think the only answer is bet.

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Speaker 5: But he didn't ask what the only answer is? Do you want Biff?

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Speaker 2: Pogi.

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Speaker 3: I want Biff Pog for twenty six. I don't think. I think Biff is not the long term answer at Michigan.

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Speaker 2: So you want a short term Do you want a short term guy?

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Speaker 3: I think you go into an interim head coach situation. Gary Muller, similar situation in Michigan gets fired. Who takes over his intern head coach for a year, Lloyd Carr. Lloyd Carr was there for ten years.

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Speaker 5: But that's not the game plan.

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Speaker 3: Probably a different situation most likely, but it's the closest one I can give you right now, right like I'm look at the situation in Michigan. I'm pulling at straws right now.

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Speaker 5: When you can rent.

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Speaker 3: I'm just sitting in the batter's box, and.

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Speaker 5: I'm exactly why live when you can squat.

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Speaker 3: Exactly? Go blue, Go yeah, go blue, Don't blue anyway, man.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Merry Christmas, Mary, Christmas, Mary, Chris, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Guys, this is awesome.

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Speaker 5: Just a game I'm gonna have.

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Speaker 2: That's just the game. Just talk about the games that epen of the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma.

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Speaker 5: Tell me about Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: I will say this about my expaniense in Oklahoma, I probably won't be going back for a while. That being said, I thought the people in Worklahoma were great. I thought the coach staff was amazing. I thought the beat reporters were awesome. Everybody on the sideline I talked to was great. But there was one situation. I'm just like, I'll probably won't go back there for a minute. I'll let it breathe. And that's what it is, because it's not that I'm sure the players are great. Gay by Kert, great guy, played with him. He's a big He's big in Oklahoma. Probably won't go back. Environment was awesome. Cannot believe they blew a seventeen ol laite. I can't believe, especially with their defense, with their defense clump Ty Simpson. Though he got it back, He got it back tight, and he got it back between the years.

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Speaker 4: It's really got to make you Tube feel kind of dumb that you doubted him, you picked against him, and you got called. It's got to make the two of you specifically really look in the mirror and ask, how did I doubt Ty Simpson?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's how you said.

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Speaker 1: Then I look back in the mirror and I say, Kurt, big Netty, you will You're right on doubting them.

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Speaker 2: They Oklahoma just choked the game. They blew it.

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Speaker 3: This is not gonna say we were right. Oklahoma just got it wrong.

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Speaker 5: They screwed it up.

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Speaker 3: They screwed it up, They screwed up.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to my world.

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Speaker 3: Big fan of Tie, love him, obviously loved killing seriously, but they fucked up. Oklahoma messed up bad. Yeah, I got I got nothing but love for Tye. But no one's gonna sit there and tell me that this is the plan.

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Speaker 1: You win the national title with r if you're two for twelve and third down you average one point one yards per rush. The punter he just drops the ball. He drops the ball, did you see Yeah, he drops the ball, and then John Matier he can talk about miscommunication. Receiver, you want you gifted a Christmas gift to the corner.

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Speaker 2: He was taking it to the house, no matter what the route was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, I would say if it was a quick button hook, which I'm pretty sure he hand signaled to him and he picked up on it, it wouldn't have gone to the house because it would have had to go through the receiver's body before to the house.

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Speaker 2: I think that Sona was sitting inside. All he was doing is sitting in there reading the Quarterbacks Cover two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I still think. So you go back watch TV copy, which I assume both of you have.

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Speaker 4: He looks out there, whatever in the world this means for Oklahoma, he gives it to him. I think he got a head nod from the receiver, but I'm not sure whatever he told that dude to do, I'm pretty sure he blindly trusted that he was going to do and that kid didn't do it. You're just look, I'm someone who held a Jammeteer Heisman ticket. I've got a dog in the fight here, not anymore, but I did have a dog in the fight. I am not gonna believe that John Matier took that ball. Said no receiver over there, Saban Brown was good enough. I'm not gonna believe he did that. If he throws an errant ball over the middle or something like that. Okay, Now, he could not have hit a dB in the chest any more effectively than he did with that ball. So I'm gonna say miscommunication.

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure, miscommunication.

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Speaker 4: But I just want to ball use But I'm going to say it's all on the receiver. I just don't want John Matier to get any of the blank.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hey, if that's how you want to live, absolutely, Team Sport eleven guys got to be in the same page.

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Speaker 4: He was great on third down in the first half. I thought that was going to end up being the stat of the game.

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Speaker 3: Well, you said it's.

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Speaker 1: Funny because the stat sheet was basically flipped from the last game.

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Speaker 2: It was not like as bad as Alabama kind of had him in the last game.

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Speaker 3: But the turnover margin all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Think about the first quarter and change of this game. It was like the fifth quarter of the SEC Championship game, how lifeless Alabama looked, how bad the feel was getting tilted on them, average starting field position, all that stuff that we talked about after Obama Georgia and to an extent Bama OU Round one was the first quarter of this game. Okay, So like I'm joking around a little bit about tie. But after the game, I'm on the field and some of the BAMA coaches they're kind of messing around, but like they're saying, man, you doubted us, You doubted us? Dude, Yes, I doubted you in this game. I doubted you down seventeen you. Oh in the world, wasn't doubting you?

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Speaker 2: And I doubt you.

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Speaker 5: It's not like, okay, I don't want to go that part yet, I still doubt you.

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Speaker 4: It's not personal game. It's not personal. It's definitely not personal. It has nothing to do with Alabama. I'm just gonna come out of my chair when I yelled its nothing to do with Alabama.

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Speaker 3: But this is entertainment, entertainment, right and after it's just it's really.

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Speaker 5: Just the game.

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Speaker 2: It's just a game. The game is just the game.

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Speaker 4: But this thing people do sometimes when you've given them every reason to feel a way, and then you feel that way, and then they act differently than the way that made you feel how you originally felt, and they're like, you had the audacity to.

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Speaker 5: Feel that way.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm gonna tell you why. Because you were terrible in Atlanta last time. I saw you, highly ineffective. Some people didn't even think you should be in the playoff. I defended you. I went to bat for you, and you're giving them all the ammunition that he'll ever need, Slash Day will ever need. So yeah, I think there was a little bit of reason to doubt Alabama. They overcame. Okay, now they get to go against Indiana, and that's a game we're gonna cover post Christmas.

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Speaker 5: But that one we.

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Speaker 4: Got, we got Miami Ohio State, we got Oregon Texas Tech. That's the big tense chance to flex and just knock everything on its on its ear.

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Speaker 1: And Indiana can run the football. Indiana's got Fernando Mendoza and we talked to But the drop punt. You saw the drop punt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, before that drop punt, he just dropped it.

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Speaker 2: He just dropped He literally just.

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Speaker 3: Dropped the ball.

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Speaker 1: He dropped it well before that on that third and three where Manteria kind of makes it happen. He's got old buddy down the field, he just drops the ball. Yeah like that right there would have been twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And Alabama, like their defense is pretty clear now what they want to do is they want to play zone and back up and not give up X plays And they're like, hey, well as you just pick us a part up and down the field. Who can do that? Indiana all day long. That's what they can do. A very nice way, in a very nice way, and the most robotic computer way you could possibly ask for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna have to find some more like offensive just production because again, you look at him in the first part of the year until essentially what like November mid whenever they started to play South Carolina, like Alabama's offense and you go and if you look at box scores and everything else, like they're averaging well over like twenty first downs per game, and that kind of just goes away. Like when you look at their body of work at the late part of the year, which is where all the doubt crept in. Is something wrong with Tie is something going on with the offense. They can never really run the football, but they're only averaging around. It's like south to fifteen, like south to fifteen first down, So where they're just they haven't had a whole lot of production. You're kind of hanging on explosive plays. Like they scored thirty four points in that game, and you look everywhere else, whether it's on the box score, everywhere, I can't believe that there was what was the total in that game or fifteen and a half. Yeah, but they had the both teams combined scored like what over sixty point fifty eight points? Yeah, yeah, fifty eight points. And I'm just it did not feel like a game where both teams where you just generate fifty eight points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it was just explosive plays and then miss cues on whoever's fault it was. We're gonna for this show, We'll say it was the wide receivers, the punter, like just crazy stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:23:50
Speaker 4: But if you take if you take so that the pick six, that's a defensive score, just take it off the board. Take the three points they got from the muff punt or muffed handling of the punt off the board. Even if you shave ten points off that still forty eight points. It didn't even feel like a game where forty eight got scored, right, It's pretty crazy.

00:24:07
Speaker 1: And you had a couple missed field goals there at the end too, which I know that Buddy was in hell mentally missing those field goals.

00:24:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he had to be dying. What was your thought on the Miami Texa and m game?

00:24:17
Speaker 2: Pretty boring.

00:24:18
Speaker 5: It was what I thought Bama OU was going to be.

00:24:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was extremely windy there. It was more windy than the night before. I think once Miami realized we're sort of sinking in our teeth a little bit and Marcel Rea's not running the ball on us, which mobile quarterbacks don't against Miami. Once they realized that, it was like, we're not gonna let Carson Beack lose the game, is how I felt they handled it.

00:24:43
Speaker 5: Fletcher. You know, they got a four quarter approach.

00:24:46
Speaker 4: They think that they can bust the game open, and the fourth quarter on the ground they did, so they were able to stick to that. But they were able to stick to that cause defense allowed them to. And so I'm sitting there the entire time thinking, Okay, rewind one year ago. Miami's having to score four every game with cam Ward doing it basically on his own, so they have a shot to win because defensively they're just atrocious. And they made a personnel change and went and got a new defensive coordinator, Corey Heathman out of Minnesota. They made a huge deal about it internally, probably went under the radar a little bit nationally. Well, now look at them and look at the ability. Imagine me telling you a year ago Miami a year from now is gonna lose cam Ward. I'm not even gonna tell you who they're going to get a quarterback. They're just gonna portle in a guy, but there's no way he's going to be as good as cam Ward. So you're thinking downgrade there. Then you're I'm gonna tell you they're going to go on the road in.

00:25:34
Speaker 5: A playoff game. So they are going to make the playoff. That's great.

00:25:37
Speaker 4: They're gonna go on the road, They're going to score ten and that's going to be good enough to win a game.

00:25:42
Speaker 5: Would have sounded insane, yep, and yet they did it.

00:25:45
Speaker 2: You bring a great points too, like, imagine if this Miami team had cam Ward on it.

00:25:48
Speaker 5: Yep.

00:25:50
Speaker 4: Yes, imagine cam warden a fraction of this defense last year.

00:25:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in it, and they're probably they have a good chance to win it.

00:25:56
Speaker 1: Actually, outside of just the missfield goals that was that was brutal kid man.

00:26:00
Speaker 3: I felt so bad for him, but.

00:26:01
Speaker 1: I was actually enjoying watching the defensive battle. I mean Miami and Hm too, but just flying around with their hair on fire, tight windows. I'm thinking, who, which quarterback is gonna like step up in the spotlight and really, you know, neither of you really leaning in the first half.

00:26:16
Speaker 3: Marcel Reid's gonna be the one to kind of like step up and finish, just get a deep shot down like he did a play action, scrambled around a little bit, had a guy wide open, and the left side of the field got that and they stalled out end up getting nothing on that. It kind of felt like, if there's a quarterback that's going to win you the game, it felt like Marcel Reid and moving Carson back throughout it.

00:26:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's gonna be plays that. I know Marcel Read's watching world just like timing and rhythm. He's gonna want plays back where I feel like when you're going against Ohio State, Julian will thrive more in some many situation. So I'm excited to kind of watch the Miami defense against the Ohio State offense.

00:26:49
Speaker 5: There's one more thing that's happened right now. Landing's dealing with it. Elcho dealt with it.

00:26:52
Speaker 4: It's this thing with the abnormal hiring cycle where your staff gets new jobs, but then they're still coaching through the playoffs.

00:27:02
Speaker 5: So Elko is losing both of his coordinators.

00:27:05
Speaker 4: Colin Klein took the Kansas State job like he's going to be a head coach, Well, he's still your offensive coordinator. Bateman is leaving as well. So I was talking to some folks about the dynamics that that creates in a building, And on one hand, it's really really weird for prep because on one hand, you're very happy that your guys are getting opportunities, but job's not finished, so your most important games are coming up, and the attention span is fragmented from your theoretically your second third most important guys in your staff. But also here's where Rubbern really meets the road. If I'm head coach here and you're my OC and you're my DC, you're getting looks because we're winning. Probably, so then you get hired as a head coach. And you get hired as a head coach. But the way it works is you don't just leave and say bye. You leave and you got to put a staff together, And the first instinct you have is to look right back in my building. Yep, because I've got a building full of top level people in nutrition, strength, to condition, your your own support staff, like, whatever the case may be. So I go from wishing you well, congratulate you. I may have even recommended you for the job too. I don't want you taking my staffers, and so I'm fighting against you and against you to keep people in my building who you only got an opportunity to work around because I gave you an opportunity and you did your job.

00:28:21
Speaker 5: So we're even there.

00:28:23
Speaker 4: Imagine sitting in a staff room where we're having to work together to put together game plan to try and get ready to go win a game, hopefully multiple games, and I'm also competing against you kind of to keep staffers.

00:28:35
Speaker 5: Yeah that's not an easy dynasic.

00:28:36
Speaker 2: All happened quietly too. Yeah it gets allowed.

00:28:38
Speaker 1: Then there's an argument, Yeah, yeah, throws everything football Like NFL, if a coach gets hired and he's trying to bring guys on, coaches for other teams can block guys leaving unless it's like a pay raise or not a pay raise, but like you get elevated as far.

00:28:52
Speaker 3: As your role goes.

00:28:53
Speaker 2: Great question, like they can't make a lateral move.

00:28:55
Speaker 3: They can't make a lateral move, but there's multiple time like a love floor. When he left, I know Vrabel blocked the people from leaving because like, hey, I want you guys here, and you're taking a lateral move, so he would keep those guys in the building.

00:29:05
Speaker 5: This will shock you. None of that exists in college.

00:29:08
Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, football is the best right now. I'm getting fucked up my family, my school is getting by the front of it right now. But it is awesome.

00:29:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be tough because again, if if you're the head coach in the situation, you're doing everything you can to pour into the situation that be, which is, hey, we gotta we want to win the national title.

00:29:29
Speaker 2: Win the coach will playoff.

00:29:30
Speaker 1: Then whenever I know in my brain if all of my prep and all my stuff gets done, once I get moments of time where I feel like I would be finding whatever the creative ways are, whatever you're obsessing about within the team. Now that I'm going to be a head coach, I feel like all that free time now would be going into whether it be the relationships inside the building, hitting people up outside, like hey, what's your situation going on with this school? Like I'd be putting more toward into what my future is going to be at my next school, because now I'm about to take my first head coaching job.

00:29:57
Speaker 3: And if coaches the you know this in the building, like what is our actual chances of winning a national championship? Like I'm sure there was a like a Texas A and M saw where their flaws were and then saw the road and realize our flaws don't match up. I can't be hidden through these future teams. So once you can make that decision, you're as an OC or DCU. Now as a head coaching job, it's even more of a reason to going, Hey, let me focus on what I got going on here, So maybe I could be the head coach here someday or somewhere else.

00:30:24
Speaker 4: And the important thing to remember now that we go into quartifying around is Dan Lanning's dealing with us.

00:30:28
Speaker 5: He's losing both coordinators.

00:30:30
Speaker 4: So keep that in mind as you start to think about the Orange Bowl.

00:30:35
Speaker 5: How do I think they match up with Texas Tech? Well that other factors in the room.

00:30:38
Speaker 4: I know, no way you can quantify that because it probably works different program to program, case by case, So you just never know culture by culture.

00:30:46
Speaker 1: And we're I know, Tash is going to cow where's the OC going Kentucky head coach of Kentucky. Yeah, it's like, unless you're going to I feel like I'm kind of zooming out. Unless you're going to like an SEC or Big ten, a really good job where you feel like there's gonna be a lot more resource help to where people can kind of do some of these things, some of these responsibilities that you deem as a priority and you got people that can handle it. If you're going to like an ACC or a Big twelve school to where I feel like there's gonna be more urgency there for you to have more responsibility because you don't have all the same resources and backing that like the Big ten, some of these prominent Big ten and SEC schools have.

00:31:22
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00:32:16
Speaker 4: That you could really tell who did and didn't watch that game by the amount of people who said Oregon didn't even cover bro. Yeah, they gave up thirty four. They gave him five hundred yards of offense. And I said, well, the University of Oregon logo gave up thirty four. The guys on the field in the second half were very, very clean Jersey unfamiliar names because they rolled out their twos and threes in the second half, because you are so inferior. They treated the second half as like an FCS tune up game. Yeah, they treated it like the last preseason, like a preseason game before these guys got for next year. Yeah, so all due respect, five possession lead in the first half was the big takeaway. It's thirty four to three before the half, right, Yeah, that's the takeaway.

00:33:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, and your two's score sixteen more points. So is it time that we now just move on from G Five's? What are we changing the structure in college football? Does something actually change going in next year?

00:33:12
Speaker 2: I think something's got it, something's gotta change. There's been so much.

00:33:14
Speaker 1: Chaos that year that I feel like the structure, I like to hope to believe like there's gonna be some.

00:33:19
Speaker 2: Type of movement.

00:33:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, some type of restructuring, some type of figuring. Out a different process because nobody wants to see those games. No, you know what I mean, Like, hey, in this structure, they deserve that they got in. They were their conference championships were right, they were ranked higher than the ACCS once. So you know Duke or yeah, Duke doesn't get in.

00:33:36
Speaker 3: Yeah. So we were saying, is based on the structure of the collegewable playoff of the teams that I got in and should have been in.

00:33:40
Speaker 4: The playoff based on the current rules, Yeah, as they exist. Those two teams should have gotten in based on the rules as they exist. Question is do we change the rules?

00:33:51
Speaker 2: Do I agree with what what he just said?

00:33:53
Speaker 5: Well, there's no arguing it.

00:33:54
Speaker 1: It's just fact that the G five teams got in because of the current structure.

00:33:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not about the structure of college football. The team they got in our we're supposed to get in. Are you walking me in the summ No, I'm just asking you if you agree with that or not.

00:34:06
Speaker 2: Do I agree with the current structure?

00:34:07
Speaker 3: No, the way the structure was that out the teams that we're in were supposed to be because of the current ructure. Now we need to change something. Yeah, I mean it doesn't matter that we did welcome into something.

00:34:17
Speaker 4: I know what you were doing. I didn't know what you were doing at first, but you just made him say roll Tide.

00:34:22
Speaker 3: That's what you made. Miami should have been in Notre Dame. We understand why they're out now. I don't agree with the.

00:34:30
Speaker 5: Structure something, but you do want to blow the structure up. YEA want to blow the structure up.

00:34:36
Speaker 3: I think we've all been aligned. Are paths to getting there were different, but we all believe that the College Football Playoff needs to be different next year.

00:34:43
Speaker 4: Most people think that. Most people believe that very few people. If we strawhold America college football America, very few people are saying I like it exactly how it is right now.

00:34:54
Speaker 3: One of the biggest things that need to change is the second round needs to be home home advantage.

00:35:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love to see that.

00:35:01
Speaker 1: I would love to see Texas Tech having a home game like the teams they got buys, the teams that were one through four, like they get to have a home game to come right.

00:35:09
Speaker 3: Because what we saw last year, the team like Oregon who had to buy, they were not prepared. They looked a little rusty going into their game again by Ohio State, Like, now we're gonna get a little tune up game against JMU or missing his tune up game. Now they get to go in a little more fresh versus these teams that advice, and if it goes the same way it went last year, it's like they're in a much better position play more football.

00:35:29
Speaker 4: To go back to your your thing about the G five, like everyone's spoken their peace on it. Then the result hits you in the face again the other day and you got two blowout games. So I warned you last week. I said, if these games are close, there's gonna be a ton of bad faith argument out there. Well they weren't close, so then this is my opinion, you got more bad faith argument or maybe flawed argument on the other side.

00:35:52
Speaker 5: So I like both of you. Don't really love.

00:35:55
Speaker 4: The idea of G five teams just being kind of gifted a spot in the playoff doesn't make logical sense to me, But I know why it does exist. An antig five or anything like that. But I know why it exists. But my take on it has never been they're going to get blown out. That's why they don't belong in. They happen to get blown out because they're inferior teams. But whether it was a three point game or a three hundred point game, I don't really care. I just I talked to you about last week this strength of schedule and how I think there's a certain bar you should have to clear, and most G five schedules do not allow you to do that. It's not their fault. That's why I would love a G five playoff. Probably what's shocked me the most about this whole era is I thought G five fans would be on board with the concept of a G five playoff if it had like a full financial ambilical cord attached to it, Because you say G five playoff, and the first thought is, oh, you're choking us off of the big playoff, which means we're going to die on the vine over here because we don't have enough money to survive. No, I would love to just pump money into that thing.

00:36:50
Speaker 2: Yeah. They see it as everybody wanted to put them at the kids there.

00:36:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, which that is It's brutally honest, that is what you're doing. The reality it is just a tier of college football that's beneath the like. So I mean it's so stupid to think Louisiana'm Monroe, Louisiana State played the same sport.

00:37:04
Speaker 5: They don't.

00:37:04
Speaker 4: They play the same sport from a rules perspective, but from a resource perspective, we're on opposite sides of the Grand Canyon looking at each other. Yeah, okay, so I'm always a G five playoff guy. But then I get pushed back on that, so like, I'm okay, I don't. It's not like I'm hard and fast on that. That's just how I'd like to see it because it makes sense to me. But if you're not agreeing on that, what is your proposal? And I had a lot of people say, all right, my proposal is G five teams should only get in if they're ranked in the top twelve.

00:37:35
Speaker 5: I'd be totally fine with that. I'd be totally fine with that.

00:37:38
Speaker 4: The question becomes, if you don't give them a guaranteed seat at the table but there are automatic bids for other conference champs, do you run the risk of a lawsuit? And then the third thing that I started to see some people broach this past weekend for the first time is what if there is a lawsuit? What if you just let them, take you to court, lose the battle, pay the check, and then about it however you want to anyway. So there are a lot of different thoughts out there.

00:38:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're in your opinion what is the fastest way or the best way to fix it. And it has to be legally, it doesn't have to be legal.

00:38:12
Speaker 4: You got to basically just decide whatever your structure is going to be, twelve team, sixteen teams, whatever. I think they're always going to have one spot. I think they're always going to have one guaranteed spot at the table. I assume that that's probably not going anywhere unless and this is why I go to the G five playoff thing. If you created a separate playoff and there was the promise of a huge payday in that playoff, that's the only thing that I theoretically believe could convince G five presidents and athletic directors to look at it.

00:38:41
Speaker 5: I don't know if they would do it.

00:38:42
Speaker 4: But if you put out this not an idea, but like a fully formed plan, here's the media partner, here are the major advertisers. Here's the payoff, here's the subsidy. Here's what you're gonna get if you're in it. Here's what you're gonna get if you win it. Everyone's going to get something. You're not gonna die on the vine over here because you got detached from the main playoff. Once the money part's taken care of, then you tell JMU or Tu Lane you're gonna compete in a tournament where you can actually win. Like right now, Jmu's goal is get to the playoffs so I can get beheaded. To Lane's goal, like they're north Star is we can get into the playoff so we can get annihilated. So it's never made sense to me, but g five folks, many of them will look you straight in the eye and say, Nope, would much rather have that than our own separate tournament.

00:39:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, even the level of separation too.

00:39:28
Speaker 1: Like everybody on Jmu's roster or Tu Lane's roster, even though they're going in to get beheaded in the Costwall playoffs. Basically everybody's goal in that building is play well enough to then get picked up by from somebody bigger.

00:39:41
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

00:39:41
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we got into the playoff this year, can't wait for all of us to come back like strengthen this if we get an il. We're coming back JMU two lane, We're coming for blood next year. Yeah, you know what I mean. Even if they were to win, you know, they probably never win a game, but if they won a game.

00:39:56
Speaker 3: You can see them winning a game.

00:39:57
Speaker 1: Let's just say they wont a game in a simulation, then the mindset for everybody still on that team is the exact same.

00:40:05
Speaker 5: Can kill them out.

00:40:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're trying to level up.

00:40:07
Speaker 1: Like every coach is trying to get a bigger job, every player is trying to get plucked by somebody from the P four.

00:40:12
Speaker 4: Now Here's what the intellectually dishonest counter argument would be. Okay, isn't every kid that may play for TCU trying to do that for Texas?

00:40:21
Speaker 5: Isn't every kid that plays.

00:40:23
Speaker 4: At I don't know, like Arkansas trying to do that for Alabama? Like people will say that the answer is yes. The difference is you've got to at some point pool teams based on some kind of comparability. The comparability is resource. That's just like when people say, well, yeah JMU got blown out against Oregon, but Tennessee got blown out against Ohio State last year. Does that mean Tennessee doesn't belong in the playoff, which is one reason I don't track in that argument because they can get you on that. No, it doesn't mean that. Because Tennessee has comparable resources to Ohio State, they have athletes that can compete on the field with Ohio State. Like, yes, they got blown out in that game. The difference is if you play that game one hundred times, there's some very competitive games. There's some Tennessee wins in there, believe it or not. There are no JMU wins over Oregon. And it's not because you don't believe in them or think they should have a shot. It's because there is a certain facet like there's a certain level in football where it's a non starter. Like it's I call it the freeze point. A lot of times water if it's thirty three degrees or one hundred and three degrees will not freeze. It has to be thirty two point four or lower thirty two six, whatever it is before it freezes. Those rosters don't meet the freeze point, they don't even get close to meeting the freeze point. And so like I just think that if you're looking at an Arkansas Alabama versus a jmu Organ, you're intellectually dishonest if you're making that argument, because even if you're making the argument, you know, Arkansas Alabama versus JMU Organ are totally different classifications of quote unquote separation. You got to classify teams and group teams. At some point, there's going to be a worst and a best in any bubble. The difference is if the bubble's thirty teams deep versus one hundred and thirty teams deep, that first bubble makes a lot more sense to me.

00:42:15
Speaker 5: Okay, which jacket does notre dame fall in?

00:42:18
Speaker 2: Which tournament did they get in?

00:42:20
Speaker 5: I would put them in the head bubble.

00:42:21
Speaker 4: I would just make them earn their way in like everyone else, which they didn't this last time.

00:42:26
Speaker 5: But they got a new Uh we wrote a new law for them right to get in. Yeah.

00:42:29
Speaker 3: No, that's a great law. It's a great law.

00:42:33
Speaker 5: It's interesting.

00:42:34
Speaker 2: Okay, everybody that played.

00:42:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's play the game where there's a G five. There's a G five tournament every single year. Ye let's say one school will just say JMU or two lane win that tournament like five or eight out of ten.

00:42:49
Speaker 4: Years, just like the FCS in North Dakota State.

00:42:51
Speaker 3: Right, and they're just over and over, always crushing it. And then you have like the lower SEC Big ten schools that are constantly at the bottle over and over again. Is there a.

00:43:02
Speaker 5: Relegation promotion and relegation?

00:43:04
Speaker 3: Is there is there a world that you would want to live in?

00:43:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what else I would love to do. I would love that to exist. I would also love I think they do this in European soccer. I know nothing about European soccer. They do promotion relegation. What they also do is pay I forget what the term is.

00:43:18
Speaker 5: But it's a fee.

00:43:19
Speaker 4: Basically, if you're JMU and I'm Oregon and I take five of your players, I am paying a penalty to you to take those players from you, which I've always thought should exist. Right now, it's a joke what P four does to the G five, But it's also a joke what the G five does to FCS. It's not like this is a this is a one way street here like the G five.

00:43:39
Speaker 5: I was talking to a guy.

00:43:40
Speaker 4: From Mercer the other day, which is just a FCS school in Macon, Georgia, but they're pretty good.

00:43:45
Speaker 5: They go play the.

00:43:46
Speaker 4: Big boys every year, take their check, take their beating. He laid out their roster and which players have been poached and what they're being offered. And it's like Georgia State came and got this kid, Troy came and got these kids, UAB came and got these kids.

00:43:59
Speaker 5: So the G five the same thing.

00:44:00
Speaker 4: It's just much less talked about because no one cares about the FCS relative to talking about P four G five. I would love for there to be a restitution structure anytime you're taking talent, because that's really what in the long run, could reinvest in those programs and help them level up to where eventually they're consistently good, they can retain their players, and then if they're good enough, they can be promoted up a level. And if you suck at that upper level, you're not taking advantage of your resources. You could fall down the ladder. Now I just said that in like two minutes. That's very easy. You got so many spider webs to untangle there with conference affiliation, not to name the other few, to where yeah, it's very difficult to make that a rule or make that the new structure.

00:44:42
Speaker 5: But we're just playing perfect Unicorn world here.

00:44:45
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we got a blank we got a we got a blank sheet. Yeah I want.

00:44:52
Speaker 1: Yeah for me, it's just that everybody who loves college football, the sport is becoming more and more popular every year.

00:44:58
Speaker 2: A lot of people, Hey, it's my favorite sport to watch.

00:45:01
Speaker 1: Just when you're looking at the playoffs, this is the most you know, competitive, you want the most competitive tournament possible in our favorite sport that we're all watch.

00:45:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, that vibe Saturday night was bad.

00:45:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Oregon organ JMU and then Tulane O miss Like you're watching A and M Miami. You're watching Bama Oklahoma and then the other games, like you're checking into see is there even gonna be a fighting shot? Oh it's thirty four to three. I don't even care to watch the rest of this football. Oh, Jami, you ended up putting thirty four points on the board. I wonder if it wass it gets backed ups whatever it is. Yeah, but you're not you just you don't care to watch those games at all. And like, imagine the world. I know, obviously I spout about the Notre Dame stuff, but imagine Notre Dame BYU or Vaney that would have been in the playoff or in some of these games this year.

00:45:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like tuned in, excited to see what's what's gonna go down.

00:45:47
Speaker 3: Because they're watching real conferences, real independence that say hey, we're just as big as the big dogs. We're gonna go prove ourselves because everybody wants to see the power forwards, like who is the best at the end of this year. We're gonna have the conversations wherever it was the national championship, whatever, if it's Big ten SEC, We're all gonna sit there and be like, this is the best conference. Now, top the top of the top is the best conference. You're not getting that without getting like Vanderbilt to go to Oregon, Like that would have been a game I think we all tuned into. Hell, we even maybe go to because we have multiple dogs in that fight. And then we make the trip to Eugene over going to a M Miami, right, because you're right, there was two games this weekend. Everything else was, Hey, congratulations.

00:46:25
Speaker 1: If there happened to be that G five team that is ranked in the top fifteen, Top twelve Cincinnati from five years ago, Yeah, like you're still you'd be curious cycle. Let's see if they can they can rock with the big dogs. Yeah, if they do, it's much more entertaining and fun to watch. It's just we all knew how these games were going to go down.

00:46:39
Speaker 2: Over the world.

00:46:39
Speaker 4: It's always obvious when AG five team actually belongs in the playoff. There have been several Bois's, a couple of ucfs, that Cincinnati team from just a few years back before they joined the Big Twelve. Those teams Cincinnati made the four team playoff, and I remember like vividly saying, yeah, I think they belong in. I didn't push back on it. It's not like you're blanketly anti G five. It's you want deserving teams.

00:47:03
Speaker 5: In the playoffs.

00:47:04
Speaker 4: The other thing is I don't believe in comparing basketball to football at all. But for the people who do go down that road of comparing the NCAA tournament and March Madness to the college football playoff, and they're like this, man, we want to.

00:47:14
Speaker 5: Cinderell lah blah blah blah.

00:47:17
Speaker 4: I enjoy watching like a George Mason go up against Duke in the first round. Point spread maybe twenty four and a half. But there is something in the back of my mind that tells me this could happen. It's unlikely, but it could happen. And also I enjoy watching the kids have that experience. There is nothing fun to me about watching JMU or Tulane be on the same field in any kind of competitive playoff environment with legit like top ten caliber Big ten and SEC teams. And the other dirty secret from the past. Two dirty secrets from the past. The first dirty secret is most of the great G five teams people use in these arguments to prop up the G five will never exist again because all the talent got rated in the modern acte number two. And this is one that gets pushed back, but I don't care because I know it's true. Most of the examples people use Utah, Alabama, UCF, Auburn, whatever the case may be. It was a G five team playing their Super Bowl against some SEC or Big ten team that missed out on their goal, and now they're playing a consolation bowl game, so you got disproportionate motivation and buy in this last weekend is actually what it looks like when a G five inferior opponent gets the full focus of a power program. That's what that actually looks like I had an Auburn kid in twenty seventeen. They beat Alabama and Georgia. Then they go to the SEC championship game, Kerrie and Johnson's hurt. They get beat by Georgia, and they go from thinking they're going to go to the playoff or whatever win the SEC to they're going to play in the Peach Bowl against UCF. I had one of the kids telling me this is not one of the six biggest games of our season. UCF has a banner in their building because they won that game. Yeah, just to give you a idea of how different that was, said, Yeah.

00:49:04
Speaker 3: I think we covered it. Yeah, is there anything boys we miss? Anything in the back here, Jared? I know you big colforotball guys. Everything you got. Shout out, shout out Alaholma, thank you for the hot dogs, Thank you for the hot dogs. YEP.

00:49:19
Speaker 1: As an observer of the weekend, it was like, I'm sitting there, I'm hearing about what happened to the boys, what happened to my boys. Then I see Pete's got his Rollerdex of content coming out where he's.

00:49:28
Speaker 2: On the field. All those things, I'm like, damn, and all.

00:49:34
Speaker 3: The things all the things that went down. I'm sitting there at the end, we're flying back. Jared's sleeping with his mouth wide open. JP and are having a good conversation, and I'm just thinking, the one time Will doesn't come with us, it all falls apart. It's where I'm gonna have to go and tell club what happened, tell ESPN what happened. And I'm gonna have to get on the phone with the Will and be like, this is what happened, and it sucked.

00:49:57
Speaker 1: I see my boys just in the top road like the wind blow and eating popcorn. And then I go to Pet's timeline and he's in the backstage betting the dog.

00:50:06
Speaker 5: He bet it up.

00:50:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't get the red carpet rolled out.

00:50:09
Speaker 5: He's you know what, we know.

00:50:12
Speaker 3: It's good for us with the boys though, is this has been twenty twenty five has been an incredible year for us. It's been awesome. I mean our relationship, the locker room, the traveling, all the things doing ESPN. We have been like Icarus, dude. We have been flying towards the sun. It was about damn time we fell a little bit. So actually shout out Oklahoma because we needed a good humbling. We needed it.

00:50:35
Speaker 2: Go ahead on the on that topic. On the flight there, do you remember you just being like, man, everything is perfect?

00:50:42
Speaker 3: Could yes?

00:50:43
Speaker 2: And it was.

00:50:44
Speaker 3: It wasn't the flight to Oklahoma. It was a fight from Oklahoma after everything happened. And I'm thinking, dealt with a bad bad egg like that happens sometimes. And I'm like sitting there reflecting with all the boys, like how cool has this year been? And it feels like every year is its own, like whole lifetime that takes place. Yeah, and we're all like kind of shaking her heads and being like, yeah, dude, it's awesome. Go to sleep, wake up. Hell is taking place. And I literally have somebody from ESPN saying what people said about you guys in Oklahoma. They reference it to a terrorist attack.

00:51:15
Speaker 5: I can't believe you can even fly. You should be able to list right now.

00:51:19
Speaker 2: Taylor's sleeping, the boys are sleeping.

00:51:22
Speaker 3: I'm jumping my bad dude, and I'm like, oh, this is a good humbling for us, Like we stay in Ritz Carlton for this, let's get in this holiday, like, oh, we're everyone's great beds are actually relatively comfortable to sit there.

00:51:36
Speaker 2: Wake up.

00:51:37
Speaker 3: Ah, decent night's sleep.

00:51:39
Speaker 5: Look at my phone.

00:51:40
Speaker 2: Hell grenade great, Hell.

00:51:44
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you. I told you allfare I'm gonna tell you on air. I'm at Oklahoma fair amount. I storm Chase in Oklahoma National Weather Services on the campus of the University of Oklahoma. So me and Oklahoma. So I vouched for Oklahoma. However I vouch for you as well. And so I think, probably from a mediator standpoint, I got work to do. Maybe I take this personally. Maybe this is kind of on me. I haven't taken responsibility for anything on the show all year, so maybe it's time. Maybe it's time for me to take my first l So I'm gonna fix this. I gotta find a way to fix it.

00:52:21
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you our game plan. We've said our peace. I'm not gonna sit back and pretend like it never happened until somebody. I'm just gonna sit in the pocket now. I'm be like, hopef we gets figured out. It's not we're stressing about Christmas shopping to do or I'm like kind of stressed about that.

00:52:35
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, God.

00:52:40
Speaker 3: Stalking the Perfect is a storm chasing with Josh and that one individual. Make them come with you as attorney does.

00:52:52
Speaker 2: Coming just.

00:52:56
Speaker 5: For clarification. I don't want to clarify what the world happened here.

00:53:01
Speaker 3: Don't even worry about it. You'll find out it's single storm.

00:53:03
Speaker 2: Jason just die.

00:53:04
Speaker 3: Someone fell out.

00:53:05
Speaker 4: We don't allow done okay from an insurance From an insurance perspective, I can't loud.

00:53:12
Speaker 2: I'm kidding.

00:53:13
Speaker 1: I would never Oh big gug Sinny kisses, Merry Christmas, We love you.

00:53:18
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