DOGMAN ENCOUNTER IN WEST VIRGINIA | FLORIDA SKUNKAPE ACTIVITY (IT TRIED TO ATTACK US)

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone in welcome to Sasquatch Theory. In this podcast interview,
<v Speaker 1>we have Jay and he had a dog man encounter
<v Speaker 1>in West Virginia with his brother. Jay also had an
<v Speaker 1>experience in Florida one day, and he wanted to talk
<v Speaker 1>about these experiences and encounters with us. So I hope
<v Speaker 1>you guys are ready for it. The thought of dog
<v Speaker 1>man is certainly a frightening thing. A lot of people
<v Speaker 1>don't believe in Bigfoot, but they are certainly skeptical of
<v Speaker 1>dog man. What are your thoughts about dogmen and do
<v Speaker 1>you think they exist. I have heard a dog man
<v Speaker 1>before out in the forest, and I know a lot
<v Speaker 1>of people think that I have all kinds of stories,
<v Speaker 1>but it's true. A lot of this truly happened to me,
<v Speaker 1>and it's frightening. I did see a hell hound one day,
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's a little bit different, but it
<v Speaker 1>could be the same thing as a dog man. I
<v Speaker 1>really do believe that certain people are more prone to
<v Speaker 1>have experiences and encounters than others, and it could be
<v Speaker 1>something supernatural, or it could be merely just a coincidence.
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<v Speaker 1>all that being said, let's dive straight into Jay's Crypti
<v Speaker 1>encounters from the state of West Virginia and from the
<v Speaker 1>state of Florida. All right, Jay, welcome to Sasquatch Theory.
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing today, sir?
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. Great. How are you?
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing excellent? Thank you so much for asking. Jay,
<v Speaker 1>if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
<v Speaker 1>kind of where you're from and your bigfoot encounters and
<v Speaker 1>experiences from the very beginning.
<v Speaker 2>Please, Yeah, absolutely so. My name is Jay, and I
<v Speaker 2>was raised in northeastern Maine through my early teen years
<v Speaker 2>and then moved to Florida. So in Maine, we learned
<v Speaker 2>to hunt, and basically it's a very very wooded area,
<v Speaker 2>so you learn a lot about the animals and kind
<v Speaker 2>of habits and everything like that. So very comfortable in
<v Speaker 2>the woods, that kind of thing. Same thing with Florida.
<v Speaker 2>Moved down there in the mid eighties and graduated high
<v Speaker 2>school there and then moved to college in Ohio, and
<v Speaker 2>that's where I had my first experience, and it was crazy.
<v Speaker 2>It was basically going from nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety one.
<v Speaker 2>My brother and I were home on Christmas vacation. So
<v Speaker 2>my brother is two years older than me, but he
<v Speaker 2>went in the service and did two years active duty,
<v Speaker 2>and when he got out, I had just graduated high school.
<v Speaker 2>So we entered college as freshmen together. So we were
<v Speaker 2>actually on our way back to Ohio from Florida, Central Florida,
<v Speaker 2>and we were in West Virginia, and it was the
<v Speaker 2>first week of January and we had to report back
<v Speaker 2>to school for Monday morning class, and essentially we would drive.
<v Speaker 2>It was about a fourteen hour drive, so we would
<v Speaker 2>switch on and off, you know, when you get fuel
<v Speaker 2>or coffee or any kind of thing. We would switch
<v Speaker 2>off drivers. And it was one of those nights. It
<v Speaker 2>was very, very cold, but crystal clear in the sky,
<v Speaker 2>like you could see stars, you know, throughout the whole sky.
<v Speaker 2>So beautiful night. Not a lot of snow on the roads,
<v Speaker 2>just kind of a little bit on the sides. And
<v Speaker 2>we were driving. We were listening I'll never forget it.
<v Speaker 2>We were driving listening to Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
<v Speaker 2>running Down a Dream, and Little I was in the
<v Speaker 2>passenger seat, It was a little two seater Mazda with
<v Speaker 2>everything we had in the lake right behind the seats there.
<v Speaker 2>And as we were driving, my brother was driving, I
<v Speaker 2>was in the passenger seat. I don't really sleep well
<v Speaker 2>when I'm in a passenger seat, but yeah, we were
<v Speaker 2>driving and I can see, like kind of out of
<v Speaker 2>the like peripheral vision on the left there this massive
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was It looked like a wolf, but
<v Speaker 2>it literally came to the median. So I want you
<v Speaker 2>to imagine a highway two lanes going each way, as
<v Speaker 2>a highway in West Virginia and not there's not really
<v Speaker 2>no lights other than the cars there had we hadn't
<v Speaker 2>seen a car in miles. And essentially what I saw
<v Speaker 2>was this animal jump from the far left all the
<v Speaker 2>way on the left median, which is the other lane,
<v Speaker 2>basically the other lane of traffic going the other way.
<v Speaker 2>And as we approached it, we were probably three hundred
<v Speaker 2>yards from it when it got to the side of
<v Speaker 2>the road, and I'm literally now glued onto it looking
<v Speaker 2>at it, and I thought, oh my gosh, we're going
<v Speaker 2>to hit it, because it jumped. And when it jumped,
<v Speaker 2>it landed right dead center in between the two traffic
<v Speaker 2>lanes basically, and it stood up. It stood up on
<v Speaker 2>on its hind legs, and it was I thought it
<v Speaker 2>was a wolf, but it couldn't have been a wolf.
<v Speaker 2>It jumped again, and I thought we were going to
<v Speaker 2>hit it literally had its jaws open like it was
<v Speaker 2>trying to bite the vehicle we were in, and we
<v Speaker 2>just missed it within I don't know, maybe a foot,
<v Speaker 2>it seemed like. And so as we go past it,
<v Speaker 2>I whipped my head around to look out the back
<v Speaker 2>window and my brother hits the brakes and the red
<v Speaker 2>red brake like light up what we could see there,
<v Speaker 2>and there was this this creature and it was literally
<v Speaker 2>it had to be no less than I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>eight feet seven or eight feet tall, and it was
<v Speaker 2>standing on two legs. It had huge, huge shoulders and
<v Speaker 2>what looked like hands and not pause. It was furry gray,
<v Speaker 2>kind of black and gray, if you will, and just
<v Speaker 2>a massive head, massive head, big big tail, furry tail,
<v Speaker 2>and I literally was in shock. I looked at my
<v Speaker 2>brother and at the same time we said to each other,
<v Speaker 2>did you see that? And what was that? And and
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm sure we threw a few expletives in
<v Speaker 2>there but essentially we looked at it and for the
<v Speaker 2>next I don't know, hour and a half as we
<v Speaker 2>were driving, we're like, what what? What was it? A dog?
<v Speaker 2>Was it a was it a wolf? Was it? It couldn't
<v Speaker 2>have been a coyote? It was way too big? Well
<v Speaker 2>what was it? It wasn't a bear. So we went
<v Speaker 2>through trying to figure out, you know, what it was.
<v Speaker 2>And I'll never forget that as long as I lived,
<v Speaker 2>and it was it was. It was something we had
<v Speaker 2>no idea. There was no internet back then. There was
<v Speaker 2>no way to research these things and figure it figure
<v Speaker 2>it out. No radio shows or anything like that that
<v Speaker 2>talked about that. And you know what, when we were
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what it was, we thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>it looks like a wolf man or like a were
<v Speaker 2>wolf that we see in the movies. You know, back then,
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is nineteen ninety one, the beginning of
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety one, and nobody talked about this stuff. Then.
<v Speaker 2>You were looked at like you were a lunatic if
<v Speaker 2>you talked about any kind of these creatures like you
<v Speaker 2>would see in the movies, and if you thought they
<v Speaker 2>were real or so, we kept it to ourselves and
<v Speaker 2>what's interesting is I and I didn't realize this until
<v Speaker 2>years ago, years and years ago. So think about this.
<v Speaker 2>It's what twenty twenty four now, and that was nineteen
<v Speaker 2>ninety one, so quite a long time went by. But
<v Speaker 2>about two years ago my brother, who was the driver
<v Speaker 2>that night, we were talking. We were talking about actually
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about Sasquatch and he said, do you
<v Speaker 2>remember justin that night? Do you remember that night we
<v Speaker 2>were driving back and from through West Virginia And I
<v Speaker 2>said yeah, and he said, I need you to listen
<v Speaker 2>to something, and he pulled up an he sent me
<v Speaker 2>a link to a podcast and I listened to it
<v Speaker 2>and they mentioned the name dog Man, and that was
<v Speaker 2>the first time either of us had ever heard the
<v Speaker 2>term dog man. But of course now we look back
<v Speaker 2>and then that's exactly what it was. So and that's
<v Speaker 2>not really where the story ends there. Little did I know,
<v Speaker 2>my brother had guard duty through i'm sorry, the reserves
<v Speaker 2>and in West Virginia and when he met his unit
<v Speaker 2>during his first drill in January, he was with his
<v Speaker 2>buddies and and one of his fellow soldiers was sharing
<v Speaker 2>a story and he happened there having to be having
<v Speaker 2>a break for lunch, and he could overhear him telling
<v Speaker 2>the story of how at a at a at a
<v Speaker 2>rest area, they he and his dad got out to
<v Speaker 2>take a you know, take a break, to take a leak,
<v Speaker 2>if you will, and they heard these They heard these
<v Speaker 2>animals like like growling and howling and running through the woods,
<v Speaker 2>and they both the hair went up on their neck.
<v Speaker 2>They literally could see these animals that looked like wolves,
<v Speaker 2>but they were massive, and there were three of them
<v Speaker 2>running through these woods. They jumped in their vehicle and
<v Speaker 2>took off out of pure fear. And and as my
<v Speaker 2>brother was listening to it, he said, oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 2>this is kind of what we ran into. So long
<v Speaker 2>story short, that was my first experience ever with any
<v Speaker 2>kind of cryptid And yeah, it lasted with me forever.
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget in my life. So that's that's the
<v Speaker 2>first time. And then the next time was it was
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget this. We were in Florida, this was May.
<v Speaker 2>It was Mother's Day twenty twenty. I was living in
<v Speaker 2>a town called New Smyrna Beach, and I decided we
<v Speaker 2>were going to rent a pontoon boat for my wife
<v Speaker 2>for Mother's Day and my two kids. They were teenagers, young,
<v Speaker 2>you know, early teens, and we went down the Saint
<v Speaker 2>John's River and from Lake Beresford there you can rent
<v Speaker 2>there's a marina there and we rented this pontoon boat.
<v Speaker 2>You take a little bit of a right hand turn
<v Speaker 2>kind of down into the middle of Florida what's called
<v Speaker 2>the Saint John's Saint John's River and it's called the
<v Speaker 2>Saint John's Management District. Well, this takes you into the old,
<v Speaker 2>old old South, I mean old trees, old undergrowth, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're you're going along the river and it
<v Speaker 2>looks like something out of prehistoric times. There's no houses,
<v Speaker 2>there's no cabins for miles, and it's just a beautiful,
<v Speaker 2>beautiful ride, very peaceful, gorgeous. That it happened to be
<v Speaker 2>alligator mating season. And so we were listening as we
<v Speaker 2>were kind of fishing and having some fun, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's just trying to show my kid's nature and let
<v Speaker 2>my wife relax. And so as we're going, we cut
<v Speaker 2>the engine off and we were fishing, and you know
<v Speaker 2>that there was a very very very slight current, maybe
<v Speaker 2>a mile an hour kind of current, and we were
<v Speaker 2>barely creeping along and very dark, dark waters in that
<v Speaker 2>in that river, and you know, we were casting a
<v Speaker 2>few things, and I was talking to my little son
<v Speaker 2>about what type of fish you can catch, and I
<v Speaker 2>hear this, you know, and we're maybe fifteen yards off
<v Speaker 2>the bank, kind of just kind of coasting, if you will.
<v Speaker 2>And I hear this commotion in in inland, just a
<v Speaker 2>few yards maybe ten or fifteen yards in shore, right
<v Speaker 2>out inside the bank. And again you're talking about old,
<v Speaker 2>old Florida growth, right palm meadows and mossy oaks and
<v Speaker 2>big trees and palm trees, those kind of things. But
<v Speaker 2>it's very hard to see through it because it's so thick,
<v Speaker 2>and the commotion I hear it sounds. I thought it
<v Speaker 2>was a big hog. And I could see as it moved.
<v Speaker 2>I could see a very dark black color, but only
<v Speaker 2>through little bits and pieces, but you could see the
<v Speaker 2>shaking of the brush and then undergrowth there shaking. And
<v Speaker 2>then so I'm trying to kind of my eyes are
<v Speaker 2>on it, and I'm looking at it. I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I must have been a hog, and I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Fifteen twenty seconds later, I hear a smack of a
<v Speaker 2>wood hitting a tree, and I was I was actually
<v Speaker 2>a college and semi pro baseball player at one point
<v Speaker 2>in my life. And the sound of that wood hitting
<v Speaker 2>wood was so loud. It literally it. I shrunk, almost
<v Speaker 2>like I felt like a firecracker went off next to me.
<v Speaker 2>And you kind of got a little bit there because
<v Speaker 2>you don't need it scares you, it startles you. Well, it
<v Speaker 2>hit it, and I looked and I didn't. I couldn't
<v Speaker 2>see anything. I know where it came from roughly, but
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I didn't see it hit it, but I
<v Speaker 2>could hear it. And then you know, I kind of
<v Speaker 2>I look over and again I don't see anything. We
<v Speaker 2>flowed another fifteen or twenty yards maybe down, and I
<v Speaker 2>hear the commotion going alongside of us, like it's right
<v Speaker 2>next to us, but running fast, and it goes, it
<v Speaker 2>stops and I and another another smack. It hits again,
<v Speaker 2>and this time it was, if not the same loud,
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit louder. Well, now my kids are
<v Speaker 2>looking at it, my wife is looking over there. We
<v Speaker 2>know right where it was, and we are all looking.
<v Speaker 2>Our eyes are are are are dilated, looking, Oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 2>what was that? The sound was so loud it echoed
<v Speaker 2>through the woods, it echoed off of us, kind of
<v Speaker 2>bounced off the water sound as well. And then my
<v Speaker 2>wife looks at me and says, hey, honey, what is that?
<v Speaker 2>What is that? And then literally as we coast a
<v Speaker 2>little more, I'm now getting back behind the cockpit of
<v Speaker 2>the boat. I'm thinking maybe I should just start it
<v Speaker 2>up and kind of move out of here. And sure enough,
<v Speaker 2>we get one more hit, another fifteen or twenty yards
<v Speaker 2>down as we floated, and that's when everybody and the boat.
<v Speaker 2>So that's it. My kids started to get really scared.
<v Speaker 2>They huddle up against my wife and the fear I
<v Speaker 2>could see in their eyes. And for me, I could
<v Speaker 2>tell that was something hitting that and you know it
<v Speaker 2>had to do it had to be something with hands
<v Speaker 2>to be able to swing a back or swing wood
<v Speaker 2>and hit and it was so powerful. At this point,
<v Speaker 2>I could see the black mass pushing through the undergrowth
<v Speaker 2>and almost like bluff charging in a way. I could
<v Speaker 2>I could feel that that sense of anger and resentment
<v Speaker 2>of me being there, and all of my instinct told
<v Speaker 2>me get out of there, get out of there. So
<v Speaker 2>I start the motor and we uh and we we cruise,
<v Speaker 2>We we we we leave the shore, we kind of
<v Speaker 2>cruise back, you know, it's about don't know, another another
<v Speaker 2>two hour ride if you will, to make the full
<v Speaker 2>loop back to the you know, back to the marina.
<v Speaker 2>But it was it was one of those things that
<v Speaker 2>that was so real to me. I've heard now all
<v Speaker 2>these different podcasts, yours, your show, which I love, and
<v Speaker 2>some of the other shows that I think are really
<v Speaker 2>really high value. I'm in good content, and you hear
<v Speaker 2>a lot about these sounds of what it sounds like
<v Speaker 2>when wood hits wood, and I'm here to tell you
<v Speaker 2>that was so powerful that you literally felt it hit
<v Speaker 2>your bones. That sounded that would and and uh so, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's that's it. That was Those are the two experiences
<v Speaker 2>I had and I now live in and we moved
<v Speaker 2>from Florida to Utah four years ago. Out Here, it's
<v Speaker 2>not a joke. People out here. They're like, well, of
<v Speaker 2>course I've had an experience. My cousin saw a sasquatch
<v Speaker 2>last Christmas. Or out here. It seems very more real
<v Speaker 2>in the Western US out here and in the mountains,
<v Speaker 2>and whereas in the East Coast people kind of giggled
<v Speaker 2>at you if you talked about it. They're kind of
<v Speaker 2>made jokes, but it seems like it's a lot more
<v Speaker 2>more more accepted out here, as you know, a lot
<v Speaker 2>more knowers, if you will, or believers out here. It
<v Speaker 2>seems so. But yeah, those are the two experiences I had.
<v Speaker 2>I remember both of them very clearly. I can still
<v Speaker 2>hear the sound of the car when we saw the
<v Speaker 2>dog Man, and I can tell you I still can
<v Speaker 2>can smell the air during the and hear the sounds
<v Speaker 2>of those big bull alligators, the rattling sounds they make
<v Speaker 2>when they're mating like it was yesterday, and those things
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they'll ever get out of my mind.
<v Speaker 2>They're burned in forever. So I don't know. If there's
<v Speaker 2>any questions you have, I'm happy to answer.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Jay, thank you so much for sharing your encounters
<v Speaker 1>with me. And if you would describe the features on
<v Speaker 1>the dog Man and that you encountered on the highway.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it ran. It was coming at me at
<v Speaker 2>a three quarter angle right, so so from the way
<v Speaker 2>it was running towards the road, I could see it
<v Speaker 2>its head and it's obviously it was running on all
<v Speaker 2>fours at that point. When it got to the side
<v Speaker 2>of the road. It jumped and stood up, and then
<v Speaker 2>it looked to me like a character out of a
<v Speaker 2>comic book or a movie. It had massive shoulders like
<v Speaker 2>a like a bodybuilder, like like an adult male bodybuilder.
<v Speaker 2>The body, the upper side of the body, the shoulders,
<v Speaker 2>the front area, and the chest were thick and very
<v Speaker 2>very muscular. They were not lean at all. The thighs
<v Speaker 2>on this thing that had really large thighs, and the
<v Speaker 2>legs on the back looked like a dog, the traditional
<v Speaker 2>dog's leg the way they bend. But the front, the
<v Speaker 2>arms they looked like arms like mine, like yours, and
<v Speaker 2>they were they were They were just big, full obviously
<v Speaker 2>Harry right. To me, it looked like the color of
<v Speaker 2>an arctic timber wolf or one of those those old
<v Speaker 2>things you see in museums. I don't know if they're
<v Speaker 2>extinct now. I think they were called timber wolves at
<v Speaker 2>the time. But you know, just a big furry coat
<v Speaker 2>that way, and you know, the snout was long. The
<v Speaker 2>teeth were canine style teeth, very very like a long
<v Speaker 2>and like a dog would be ears like a dog,
<v Speaker 2>snout like a dog, but but definitely was not a dog.
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know how else to explain it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So were the muscles pretty big on this creature?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes they were. There was no question. Like you know,
<v Speaker 2>you look at you look at somebody like a linebacker
<v Speaker 2>and an NFL style athlete. They're just they're built the
<v Speaker 2>way their bodies are built. They're very you know, very
<v Speaker 2>strong in the upper body. And this is what that
<v Speaker 2>looked like. That stuck out to me to this day.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I could definitely see the rounded definition in
<v Speaker 2>the shoulders and that's what stuck out to me, like this,
<v Speaker 2>this has arms. The way the arm bent was like
<v Speaker 2>my arm, not a way a dog's arm looks. And
<v Speaker 2>the pause kind of kind of kind of looked this
<v Speaker 2>had hands. And I don't know how else to explain it.
<v Speaker 2>It was I don't know estimate weight. I mean, I
<v Speaker 2>know when I I can drive down the road right
<v Speaker 2>now and at nighttime, right and I can go and
<v Speaker 2>look on the side of the road, I may see
<v Speaker 2>four or five deer standing together. I can tell immediately
<v Speaker 2>within a microsecond if it's a buck or a dough
<v Speaker 2>And I can give you an approximate weight because that's
<v Speaker 2>how much time I've hunted in my life. You just
<v Speaker 2>get used to Oh, that's about one hundred and eighty pounds.
<v Speaker 2>And this this was massive. This to me probably looked
<v Speaker 2>like maybe five or six hundred pounds, just big, thick,
<v Speaker 2>strong animal. And it was it was not lean like
<v Speaker 2>I would you you would look like a big German
<v Speaker 2>shepherd or something like that. It was. It was just
<v Speaker 2>thicker and that body weight, that mass probably I had
<v Speaker 2>to say maybe four hundred pounds, maybe a little bit more.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you for sharing that. Could you see its eyes?
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean it was the break lights, right, I
<v Speaker 2>mean I could see the eyes. Yeah, they were there,
<v Speaker 2>and they had like an orange red hue to them,
<v Speaker 2>but I wasn't sure. And to this day, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if that was because the break lights. That's really
<v Speaker 2>all we could see it in was the break lights.
<v Speaker 1>And what feeling did you get whenever you saw the creature?
<v Speaker 1>What do you think it was up to?
<v Speaker 2>So, you know, it's funny. My brother and I talked
<v Speaker 2>about this from time to time. You know, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know it was coming at us, so the left side
<v Speaker 2>of the highway, in other words, the oncoming traffic that
<v Speaker 2>I could see, the way the median it went back
<v Speaker 2>for I don't know, five or six hundred yards, maybe
<v Speaker 2>a thousand yards before you got to this deep forest area,
<v Speaker 2>and it was running down from the forest down the
<v Speaker 2>side of this I don't know, the side of the
<v Speaker 2>highway is a better way to say it. There's really
<v Speaker 2>no other way to say it. It was cleared. It was.
<v Speaker 2>It was very wide that way, very open, and it
<v Speaker 2>was running down at an angle like it saw it
<v Speaker 2>must have seen this coming from so far away. It
<v Speaker 2>was running at an angle right toward us. So so
<v Speaker 2>if if my car, if you look at a clock
<v Speaker 2>and it's twelve and six and we're at the sixth
<v Speaker 2>position going towards the top of the twelve, this was
<v Speaker 2>coming at us from about ten o'clock at an angle.
<v Speaker 2>So by the time we got to the you know,
<v Speaker 2>got up to it, it had jumped, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>in a split second, it jumped again, and I thought,
<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh my gosh, this it looked like it
<v Speaker 2>was trying to bite us. So what it was doing,
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea, But it was not happy. It
<v Speaker 2>was it was very angry looking. I was scared. I
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't fear man anybody. I don't fear things
<v Speaker 2>very much in my life at all, and especially at
<v Speaker 2>that time, and I just looked at that as, oh
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, that is that's attacking us. And when we
<v Speaker 2>took off, we both had that feeling we were scared.
<v Speaker 2>We were scared. We thought, oh my gosh, thank god
<v Speaker 2>we didn't hit it. And yeah, that's all I can
<v Speaker 2>tell you. That's that was that kind of feeling.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it kind of seemed like it was coming
<v Speaker 1>at you guys.
<v Speaker 2>No question, no question. There was no other cars in
<v Speaker 2>the road. We hadn't seen a car. And I can't
<v Speaker 2>tell you how long. This was, probably two or three
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, because we would drive through the night,
<v Speaker 2>you know, pulling all night or kind of driving thing
<v Speaker 2>with the two of us. So there was nobody in
<v Speaker 2>the road. It was in the middle of West Virginia
<v Speaker 2>on Highway seventy seven. And yeah, it's it's, it's it was.
<v Speaker 2>It was a very bizarre feeling, very bizarre. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Where do you think these creatures come from? Do
<v Speaker 1>you think they're natural on this planet or do you
<v Speaker 1>think there's something else going on.
<v Speaker 2>When it comes to dog men, I think it's a
<v Speaker 2>I think it's something else. I think these were developed
<v Speaker 2>our government for some kind of use, don't know what.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know, maybe some animal experiments and training
<v Speaker 2>that they were trying to use them to do certain
<v Speaker 2>things in combat or that wouldn't surprise me. I know
<v Speaker 2>we've done that with other animals where we've we've experimented
<v Speaker 2>on them, and that's been going on since World War
<v Speaker 2>One and by our government and others. But I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I think these happen to be have the ability to
<v Speaker 2>to pro create because there seems to be all over
<v Speaker 2>the country people have experienced these things. So it doesn't
<v Speaker 2>add up to think that they're just in one area
<v Speaker 2>or there's a clan or a small I mean, they
<v Speaker 2>seem to be out there. But I think they're an
<v Speaker 2>experiment gone wrong. And I don't know how there's any
<v Speaker 2>other way to reel them back in, or even if
<v Speaker 2>they if the government wants them real back in, and
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I would. I would imagine they
<v Speaker 2>would to not be embarrassed if something got out or
<v Speaker 2>some that heard or injured, or one of these things
<v Speaker 2>was captured or killed and kind of found out. But
<v Speaker 2>you know, I had no there's no way for me
<v Speaker 2>to tell if that's the that's just my opinion, but
<v Speaker 2>it seems it seems as reasonable as any other, any
<v Speaker 2>reason why these things would exist.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard that before from other people. And they
<v Speaker 1>call them assets. And it could be possible that they're
<v Speaker 1>trained to seek out certain individuals. Maybe you know, they
<v Speaker 1>can let them smell the shirt and these things take
<v Speaker 1>off looking for whoever that is. And I've heard they
<v Speaker 1>use them in war. But it's really hard to say.
<v Speaker 2>Could be, wouldn't wouldn't shock me at all, quite frankly,
<v Speaker 2>So you know, and you and we may we may
<v Speaker 2>not have that answer for who knows how long. But
<v Speaker 2>I know what I saw, I know what my my
<v Speaker 2>brother saw with with me that night. There's no question
<v Speaker 2>in my mind what what that looked like, and how
<v Speaker 2>fast they were and how big they were, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's hard. We didn't want to tell anybody.
<v Speaker 2>We were embarrassed for all these years and not embarrassed,
<v Speaker 2>but we were scared people were going to make fun
<v Speaker 2>of us or would impact our careers or you know,
<v Speaker 2>like to this day, I'm not I'm not giving you
<v Speaker 2>certain information that might you know, tell people exactly who
<v Speaker 2>I am or my brother is. But it's a little
<v Speaker 2>it's a little hairy for us to this day, scary
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, because that's I don't know, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's more acceptable today than it ever has been. But
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's
<v Speaker 2>ever told you that, you know that they're a little
<v Speaker 2>a little hesitant to to you know, make it, you know,
<v Speaker 2>shout it from that mountaintop kind of thing.
<v Speaker 1>And but yeah, crazy, yeah, absolutely, And can you give
<v Speaker 1>me a hint as to what you do as a
<v Speaker 1>profession or maybe you can tell me off air.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I I'll tell you. I'm an executive run
<v Speaker 2>I run a company and it's a well known company actually,
<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, it's it's okay.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate you for sharing that on here, and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you'll have to share with me off air exactly what
<v Speaker 1>you do, because on the email was kind of wondering.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, this guy has got a high status.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, no, thank you for that. But yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>don't have any problem.
<v Speaker 1>Telling you, Okay, no, cool, And yeah, I think I
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm gonna tell you one of my stories.
<v Speaker 1>I was around twelve years old. I was sitting here.
<v Speaker 1>It was around summertime, probably in July. It was really hot,
<v Speaker 1>so I had the window open. I was living at
<v Speaker 1>my parents' house and I was just sitting there on
<v Speaker 1>my desktop computer chatting on like AOL or MySpace, whatever
<v Speaker 1>kids did at that time, and I was watching Family
<v Speaker 1>Guy on Cartoon Network. I think it was like a
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night around anywhere from like nine to eleven PM.
<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I had that window open, and
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I hear this werewolf howl and
<v Speaker 1>it's the loudest thing I've ever heard. It sounded like
<v Speaker 1>a monster, like something off in Jurassic Park. It was
<v Speaker 1>that loud. And the best Wagon compare too is like
<v Speaker 1>a giant PA system at a concert. Like it was
<v Speaker 1>that loud. You could feel it in your chest. But
<v Speaker 1>this thing was just, I don't know, so frightening, just
<v Speaker 1>like a loud I mean, like what you hear on
<v Speaker 1>those Hollywood movies, but just amped up and as soon
<v Speaker 1>as that thing finished you and it's how I heard
<v Speaker 1>this scream. Like so I was a little kid, So
<v Speaker 1>I went up to the window and I slammed it shut,
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, there's a monster
<v Speaker 1>out there. My brother's playing a prank on me. Somebody's
<v Speaker 1>got a PA system out there in the woods or something.
<v Speaker 1>But I was terrified. I didn't go back outside. I
<v Speaker 1>never knew what it was till I had bigfoot encounters
<v Speaker 1>here and I started hearing about dog man. I was like,
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, they are real. I've never seen one,
<v Speaker 1>but I've heard it. Sometimes when you just hear something,
<v Speaker 1>it can be just as prolific as an encounter, like
<v Speaker 1>a nice sighting.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. I think there's for me, and I
<v Speaker 2>think I can my brother, I can actually accurately tell
<v Speaker 2>you how he felt at the time. And now the
<v Speaker 2>feeling was we didn't know. I'd never heard anybody talk
<v Speaker 2>about that. Never it was it was a movie, or
<v Speaker 2>it was a comic book for when it came to
<v Speaker 2>a dog man, and it was always werewolf. There was
<v Speaker 2>I've never even heard the word dog man until relatively recently. Right. So,
<v Speaker 2>now the more you talk about it, the more these
<v Speaker 2>podcasts have grown in popularity and people feel okay, I'm
<v Speaker 2>okay to talk about this now. It's been sitting inside
<v Speaker 2>of people for years, sometimes like me, you know, for
<v Speaker 2>for thirty thirty years, and who would have ever I
<v Speaker 2>would have never shared shared that and this gave This
<v Speaker 2>gives you the form to get it, get it off
<v Speaker 2>your chest. And and then you hear other people that
<v Speaker 2>have gone through something similar, and yeah, you feel the experience.
<v Speaker 2>And and then when it came to the one in
<v Speaker 2>Florida on Mother's Day in twenty twenty, I'm to this day,
<v Speaker 2>I say to people, I am a knower. I have
<v Speaker 2>no doubt in my mind. I don't there's not one
<v Speaker 2>second of hesitation because I know what I saw, I
<v Speaker 2>know what I experienced. I've been in the woods enough
<v Speaker 2>to know what can swing a bat or a piece
<v Speaker 2>of wood or what can do that, and in that
<v Speaker 2>remote area, And oh, I forgot to tell you. What's
<v Speaker 2>interesting about that is I got on the internet right
<v Speaker 2>after when we got back, we parked the boat, drove
<v Speaker 2>back to the house. I started researching. And what I
<v Speaker 2>found was in the Saint John's River area in central Florida,
<v Speaker 2>there have been sasquatch sightings going back for decades. It's
<v Speaker 2>well known, actually, and I don't know why that is.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe because it's so well protected and preserved in there,
<v Speaker 2>and nobody goes back in there. The access is really tough.
<v Speaker 2>But if you you know, if you look at it.
<v Speaker 2>If you go back and look and you look up
<v Speaker 2>the Saint John's River, Sasquatch, just google it, you'll see
<v Speaker 2>people have been talking about it for years. And I
<v Speaker 2>know in my heart, I know exactly what I saw.
<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what I heard. I know exactly that
<v Speaker 2>feeling that hit through my body. My kids felt it,
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, so it's it's yeah, when you hear someone
<v Speaker 2>tell you another story and you've been through it, you're like, wow, man, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>well you know and you understand it. It's just it's
<v Speaker 2>you don't think people are lying to you. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I've gotten contact with several people around here who
<v Speaker 1>have had eyesighting encounters with dog Man, and we set
<v Speaker 1>up like video interviews and they always back out. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's a real story, but they're really hesitant to talk
<v Speaker 1>about it. You know, it's hard for people to open
<v Speaker 1>up and talk about Bigfoot, but when it comes to
<v Speaker 1>dog Man, even like most of the Bigfoot community doesn't
<v Speaker 1>believe in it. I get that all the time in
<v Speaker 1>the comments, people are like, I believe in Bigfoot, but
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about dog Man. I'm still leaning towards
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's not real.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I get it. I was right there. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know. Growing up, I don't know
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't believe in Bigfoot. I don't know that
<v Speaker 2>I did. I probably was like any other kid from
<v Speaker 2>my generation. You know, we saw we all saw the
<v Speaker 2>Patterson gimblin and you know, there were people that, Oh, no,
<v Speaker 2>that's not real, and there were plenty of people who
<v Speaker 2>said it was. And you know, you really didn't have
<v Speaker 2>much of an opinion on it until recently, and I
<v Speaker 2>think in the last decade decade and a half, with
<v Speaker 2>the growth of podcasts and people's ability to communicate via
<v Speaker 2>the web and have interactions that they can you know,
<v Speaker 2>you can either say yeah, you're telling me the truth
<v Speaker 2>or no, you're a liar. Well you got to know
<v Speaker 2>if you know me or if you know like people
<v Speaker 2>that I know that I have absolute trust in their integrity,
<v Speaker 2>and someone who they've never lied to me before, why
<v Speaker 2>would I call them a liar in that situation? And
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then that's the problem that and creates
<v Speaker 2>its own problem. Nobody wants to be thought of as
<v Speaker 2>a questionable integrity. So if they tell you a story
<v Speaker 2>and someone says, oh he's lying, well, all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 2>you become a liar, and that's what makes people fear.
<v Speaker 2>And that's my opinion. But that's that's how I felt
<v Speaker 2>for years. But I think now it's it's I think
<v Speaker 2>there's enough people out there, tens and tens and tens
<v Speaker 2>and tens of thousands that have had interactions or experiences
<v Speaker 2>or something sighting something with either of these types of
<v Speaker 2>creatures that I think it's much more wide wide stream. Now. Conversely,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think a bigfoot is made by the government
<v Speaker 2>at all. I think it's a natural creature. I think
<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a hominade of some sort. I think
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, a creature can bleed. I think it
<v Speaker 2>could die. I don't know, but I definitely believe they're real.
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't necessarily believe that they can, you know,
<v Speaker 2>hop in and out of a space or I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I just don't have enough experience with that. But but
<v Speaker 2>something's got to be visceral, big, strong, fast to move
<v Speaker 2>through the woods like that and move those the palmetto
<v Speaker 2>if you know anything about Florida, those palmetas like razor blades,
<v Speaker 2>and to be able to run through them and move
<v Speaker 2>them like that. It just doesn't happen the humans when
<v Speaker 2>we hunt in there, you try to avoid them and
<v Speaker 2>you move very gingerly through there or you get hurt.
<v Speaker 2>You can get yourself hurt. And this this thing just
<v Speaker 2>blew through it like it was nothing. So I think
<v Speaker 2>they're very real. I think they're very big, physical, strong creatures.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, yeah, I sure would love to see
<v Speaker 2>someone catching one day or you know, end up on
<v Speaker 2>an exam room table somehow, and maybe they already have it.
<v Speaker 2>We just don't know it, but you know, that's my opinion.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've seen a video years ago where somebody shot
<v Speaker 1>a dog man in the Middle East, I think it
<v Speaker 1>was in Israel, and they had it in the back
<v Speaker 1>of like a Nissan pickup truck and this thing was
<v Speaker 1>like breathing like really fast, like Patton really fast, and
<v Speaker 1>you can tell they shot it many many times. But
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to say if it's real or fake. But
<v Speaker 1>apparently these things are all over the place.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, I'm I don't ever want to see
<v Speaker 2>one of those again. I do want to see a
<v Speaker 2>big foot again, I really do. I think I'm fascinated
<v Speaker 2>by them because I think once you have that experience,
<v Speaker 2>you can't not be fascinated. I mean unless it was
<v Speaker 2>a very scary thing for you, but you have post
<v Speaker 2>traumatic stress from it. I don't. I look at it
<v Speaker 2>as I'm fascinated that these things have done with they've
<v Speaker 2>or they've been able to survive and and and live
<v Speaker 2>where they live in and around communities. But they're very
<v Speaker 2>rarely ever seen and experience. But you know, when you do,
<v Speaker 2>you can't forget it kind of thing. So I definitely
<v Speaker 2>I probably would like to see it, maybe from one
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards away, so maybe I'm in a vehicle, but
<v Speaker 2>but I I certainly wouldn't want to be surprised by
<v Speaker 2>one while I'm not hiking up here in where I live.
<v Speaker 2>But maybe if it was a far away from a
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe across a across an open area or something,
<v Speaker 2>or from a lake on the other side of the lake,
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to see it. But up close and personal,
<v Speaker 2>they're they're I don't know, maybe they can be they
<v Speaker 2>can be aggressive, and I'm not sure I want that experience.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, every bigfoot encounter I had they went
<v Speaker 1>the opposite way, so and they were close encounters. So
<v Speaker 1>it is pretty fascinating, especially when you already know about
<v Speaker 1>them and you kind of don't believe it really changes
<v Speaker 1>your mind and reformats. Thanks for you, But yeah, with
<v Speaker 1>the dog man encountered, did you have any nightmares after
<v Speaker 1>that sighting?
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't recall having nightmares. You know, I
<v Speaker 2>was I was in school, and I was an athlete
<v Speaker 2>and and and you know, I had so much going
<v Speaker 2>on in my life that I probably I don't remember
<v Speaker 2>having nightmares from that. So I can't say that I did.
<v Speaker 1>No, okay, and did anything strange happen after that encounter,
<v Speaker 1>like anything weird like supernatural?
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. So I no, No, I don't
<v Speaker 2>think so. I mean, I had lost my father a
<v Speaker 2>few months earlier, but you know, I'm a man, I'm
<v Speaker 2>a man of faith today. I think at that time
<v Speaker 2>in my life, I was probably always looking for some
<v Speaker 2>kind of sign. But I don't, I don't. I don't
<v Speaker 2>put the two together at all. So no, I can't.
<v Speaker 2>I can't say that I did.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I appreciate you for sharing that. I've heard stories
<v Speaker 1>where people encounter dogmen and like the next day their
<v Speaker 1>hair starts turning white or gray. Things like that, or
<v Speaker 1>these things like come back and into their dreams and
<v Speaker 1>speak to them, or they see another one in a
<v Speaker 1>different area and they go to another spot and they
<v Speaker 1>see another one. It's almost like they know where you're
<v Speaker 1>going to be at, which it can be impossible. But
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>No, that wasn't me. I didn't have that. It was
<v Speaker 2>a one time thing for me, as it relates to that.
<v Speaker 1>So okay, And with that other encounter that you mentioned
<v Speaker 1>where multiple ones were seen, can you describe that or
<v Speaker 1>tell me about it?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was it's really my brother's story to tell,
<v Speaker 2>but he It was in West Virginia and this was
<v Speaker 2>a father and a son and they were making their
<v Speaker 2>way back to where where they were actually headed. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>they were. They were on their route and it was
<v Speaker 2>at nighttime, and they stopped at a rest area to
<v Speaker 2>go to the bathroom. And when they got out, they
<v Speaker 2>walked towards the woods to take a leak, and they
<v Speaker 2>heard the scurrying, all three through the woods, and then
<v Speaker 2>the movement and they could hear the sounds and the breathing,
<v Speaker 2>and the then the howling and then the growling, and
<v Speaker 2>they could see the movement of these things going and
<v Speaker 2>it scared them. You know to their withs end basically,
<v Speaker 2>and they they ran back into their vehicle, jumped in
<v Speaker 2>and drove off. And that was what my brother told
<v Speaker 2>me that, you know, he overheard his fellow soldier sharing
<v Speaker 2>with his other guys in there in their reserve unit,
<v Speaker 2>and he knew right then, My brother knew right now,
<v Speaker 2>he got like this feeling is cold feeling. His hair
<v Speaker 2>went up on his arms because he knew he had
<v Speaker 2>experienced something very similar. And yeah, he said that they
<v Speaker 2>He explained that they went from running on four legs
<v Speaker 2>to running on two and there's a very distinct difference
<v Speaker 2>when you hear it and the way that they move.
<v Speaker 2>So that's what scared him, is he you know, everybody
<v Speaker 2>expects to see wolves or coyotes, right, but nothing that
<v Speaker 2>big on two legs. And that's what stayed with him.
<v Speaker 2>So again, you're talking about nineteen and ninety one, January
<v Speaker 2>ninety one, so who knew what these things were? No
<v Speaker 2>one knew, No one knew, and you know, whould who
<v Speaker 2>would you know, who would want to just volunteer that?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a very scary situation. So yeah, he
<v Speaker 2>told me that story, and it really it really brought
<v Speaker 2>back the memory. For me, it's very visceral. I still
<v Speaker 2>can smell the car, man, I mean I even telling
<v Speaker 2>you get I get gooselesh just thinking about the feeling
<v Speaker 2>we had. Like I can even remember literally looking at
<v Speaker 2>the we had created cracks his left his driver's side window.
<v Speaker 2>He rolled it down about an inch or two to
<v Speaker 2>offset the defroster and with the windows were fogging in
<v Speaker 2>the heat, he was trying to find that balance back
<v Speaker 2>when the cars didn't have really good air circulation systems.
<v Speaker 2>And I just remember looking out the window and and
<v Speaker 2>and that can capture the feel of the of that experience.
<v Speaker 2>And I remember the song, I remember everything. So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was very much stuck on me for
<v Speaker 2>forever and ever to you know, just thinking about it
<v Speaker 2>to this day.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is frightening. And you mentioned I think it's
<v Speaker 1>called the Saint John's River.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, right there, you can look it up. Lake
<v Speaker 2>Beresford b E R E S f O R D
<v Speaker 2>is the lake where you rent where we rented the boat,
<v Speaker 2>the plum Pontoon, And then you travel up the lake
<v Speaker 2>and there's an a an entry way into the Saint
<v Speaker 2>John's River from the lake and it creates this big
<v Speaker 2>loop there so you can you can look it up,
<v Speaker 2>and it was about probably one and a half miles
<v Speaker 2>in on the Saint John's River is where we had
<v Speaker 2>the experience.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and can you describe the features on the creature
<v Speaker 1>that you encountered?
<v Speaker 2>Hard? Hard to tell you, because I didn't see a head.
<v Speaker 2>All I saw was the movement of the body through
<v Speaker 2>the trees and or through the palmettos and the scrub
<v Speaker 2>brush that's in there, so so so nobody had ever
<v Speaker 2>trimmed this stuff. This is pretty thick stuff in there,
<v Speaker 2>and it really it's miserable to walk through. Any any
<v Speaker 2>of your your listeners that are from Florida and have
<v Speaker 2>ever walked through those thick woods like that that have
<v Speaker 2>never been burned or trimmed or cut or anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>It's miserable to walk through. And it's super super thick,
<v Speaker 2>very hard to hunt deer in those areas. You kind
<v Speaker 2>of you kind of want to have an opener, a
<v Speaker 2>little bit more open area so you can see animals
<v Speaker 2>coming in going. But I literally could see like blotches
<v Speaker 2>of color like at different areas as it would run from,
<v Speaker 2>and it was going from my right to my left.
<v Speaker 2>I could literally see areas where I could see the
<v Speaker 2>color of the animal. And that's why initially I thought
<v Speaker 2>it was a hog, because that's what it looks like
<v Speaker 2>and sounds like when a hog, big hog boar is
<v Speaker 2>running through the through the underbrush there, That's what it
<v Speaker 2>sounds like. But this was just much more violent and bigger,
<v Speaker 2>more and more body mask going through the area. So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I wish I could give you more detail.
<v Speaker 1>No, I appreciate you for sharing that. And I know
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned you think that Bigfoot has always lived here
<v Speaker 1>and dog Man's kind of been created. But do you
<v Speaker 1>think there's a connection between the two, like maybe dog
<v Speaker 1>Man is a hybrid of Bigfoot mixed with some type
<v Speaker 1>of canine.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't because just the just the
<v Speaker 2>pure features and looking at it from a biology perspective,
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's really crossover other than the fact that
<v Speaker 2>they have four appendages. Really there's the muzzles are different,
<v Speaker 2>the head shape, it's different, canine structors are different. Mass
<v Speaker 2>physical mass which is very very different. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>that there's any crossover there at all. I know there's
<v Speaker 2>a tendency that probably assume there's some sort of link,
<v Speaker 2>but I can't. I can't make a link there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's understandable. And do you believe you will have
<v Speaker 1>another encounter in the future. I guess that's hard to say.
<v Speaker 1>But how do you feel that?
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say, But but I do spend a
<v Speaker 2>lot of time in the in the woods out here
<v Speaker 2>and in the kind of hiking and enjoying the outdoors
<v Speaker 2>here in Utah. And you know, it wouldn't surprise me
<v Speaker 2>because people here see them. There's experiences quite quite often
<v Speaker 2>here in where I am in Utah and a lot
<v Speaker 2>of mountains, a lot of area for them to to
<v Speaker 2>kind of do their things. So I said, the chances
<v Speaker 2>are higher I would experience one here, then I would
<v Speaker 2>say if I was maybe back in Florida. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't mind it as long as it's run a
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a distance.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. And have you ever experienced anything unusual where
<v Speaker 1>you felt like these creatures followed you back home? Anything
<v Speaker 1>like that, like maybe you heard wood knocking in your
<v Speaker 1>area where you live at anything?
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't, I don't. So, so where I live
<v Speaker 2>is about six thousand feet elevation, and you know it's
<v Speaker 2>a relatively new new area. But I haven't had any
<v Speaker 2>anything I could say where I've heard or listened. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of owls where I am, but
<v Speaker 2>all of them sound like real owls, and they don't.
<v Speaker 2>There's no really you know sound there that I could say, Oh,
<v Speaker 2>that's not a real owl or any of that. But
<v Speaker 2>I listened for it. I can tell you. I go
<v Speaker 2>out of my my patio and I listened at night
<v Speaker 2>or in the real, real early morning when I hear owls,
<v Speaker 2>I kind of listened for it. But I haven't heard
<v Speaker 2>anything that would make me feel like they're near me
<v Speaker 2>or around me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fair. And have you ever seen a UFO,
<v Speaker 1>an alien anything like that?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, nope.
<v Speaker 1>Well, there is a dog Man mapping project. I'm not
<v Speaker 1>sure exactly what the name is, but somebody on the
<v Speaker 1>internet has some type of like dog Man sighting map,
<v Speaker 1>and I'd be curious to see if where you had
<v Speaker 1>that encounter at Maybe there's some other pins that have
<v Speaker 1>been dropped on the map nearby.
<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea. I never thought about that. I'll
<v Speaker 2>have to look that up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had it tied into my Google Maps, but
<v Speaker 1>now it's not there anymore. I'm trying to look it
<v Speaker 1>up on Google, but it's not coming up. Whenever I
<v Speaker 1>do come across it, I'll share it with you. And
<v Speaker 1>it's got a lot of reports. You can click on
<v Speaker 1>the pin and it'll tell you the entire story. And
<v Speaker 1>one thing that blew my mind is where I told
<v Speaker 1>you I heard that dog man hal at, there's a
<v Speaker 1>pin dropped in this same county. It's the only pin
<v Speaker 1>in the county and it's like maybe like five aisles
<v Speaker 1>from my house.
<v Speaker 2>No kidding, Wow, you know that's I think the way
<v Speaker 2>technology is going and people are becoming more and more
<v Speaker 2>feel like they're free to share this information. It won't
<v Speaker 2>be long before we have kind of like we do
<v Speaker 2>with sasquatch encounters. There's maps, there's organizations, there's all these
<v Speaker 2>things now full of resources that people can go look
<v Speaker 2>and try to validate what did I experienced? What was that?
<v Speaker 2>You know? So yeah, absolutely coming that way.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you have any questions for me?
<v Speaker 2>No? I mean I'm glad that you would, you know,
<v Speaker 2>allowed me to share my experience, and I appreciate you, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you're giving me that platform. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's a pleasure to have you on the show,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad you got in contact with me and
<v Speaker 1>you did an excellent job at relaying your encounters and experiences,
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it was a good podcast. Thank you so
<v Speaker 1>much for rising up and telling everyone what happened.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, buddy keeps parting the making. Thank you all right?
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Jay. You have an excellent evening and I
<v Speaker 1>appreciate everything you did today.
<v Speaker 2>Thanks.
<v Speaker 1>Take care all right, Jay, Thank you very much for
<v Speaker 1>sharing your encounters with me, and they were certainly terrifying.
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what the canine creature was doing or thinking
<v Speaker 1>as it ran towards your vehicle and was trying to
<v Speaker 1>buy it the car. I think it had full intentions
<v Speaker 1>of attacking you guys. But why would a creature like
<v Speaker 1>this that tries to remain undetected give away its position
<v Speaker 1>like that. It must have been driven by anger and
<v Speaker 1>malicious intent. There's a lot of strange things happening in
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia, and I wonder what is truly going on.
<v Speaker 1>This stuff is happening all over the world, but in
<v Speaker 1>certain areas of the world it seems like they have
<v Speaker 1>a high fluctuation of strange encounters. Whether it has to
<v Speaker 1>do with cryptids, UFOs paranormal activity. It's really hard to determine,
<v Speaker 1>but many people say that this type of activity is
<v Speaker 1>associated with giants and mounds, and I think that's true.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have theorized and even Jewish and
<v Speaker 1>Catholic leaders or people in high positions have said that
<v Speaker 1>giants create this type of activity because whenever they died,
<v Speaker 1>their body didn't have a place to go to. Hell
<v Speaker 1>wasn't created for them, and neither was Heaven, so they're
<v Speaker 1>stuck in between. I mean, this could be an answer
<v Speaker 1>as to what's going on. And they did say that
<v Speaker 1>the giants had supernatural abilities, and it seems like the
<v Speaker 1>cryptids do as well. But anyways, I appreciate everyone for
<v Speaker 1>listening today. If you guys can, please like and subscribe
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<v Speaker 1>appreciate everyone's support. Take care and be safe out in
<v Speaker 1>the forest.