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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

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Speaker 2: I want to start off with.

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Speaker 3: An update of what happened over the weekend. Candy and todd divorce is officially finalized.

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Speaker 2: I want to be able to read you guys the details of what happened.

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Speaker 3: The Jasmine Brand exclusively reports that Candy and Todd have submitted a settlement in their ongoing divorce case, according to a source president in the court room, but their effort to keep details private is facing facing pushback.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: According to the source, they finalized their.

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Speaker 3: Agreement on March eleventh, where they reached a full and final statement. The case have remained open as the court awaited the completed documents. Long story short, the judge declined to fully seal the case at this time, so because of that brain drops, we may be able to read exactly what happened.

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Speaker 2: There were rumors floating around for.

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Speaker 3: The past week that Candy paid Todd a total lump sum of two million dollars. The other rumor was that he had primary custody and was getting fifteen or twenty thousand dollars a month. Candy has the bunk this, saying all of this is untrue and she doesn't know where people got that information from that it wasn't true. Claudia, what are your thoughts on Candy and Todd reaching the divorce settlement. People aren't surprised that it happened so fast, which I am curious on your take on that.

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Speaker 5: I think happening so fast it means that they're not fighting like we think they might.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean. When you're not communicating and not talking, that's when it drives out.

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Speaker 5: I was married for four months. It took eight months to get out of it. Okay twice. It's going to get out of it because we weren't communicating. But when you are communicating, which they have to because of coparently, and you're someone getting along, it speeds it up. It's a lot faster. You know, so that's a good sign. I don't like that these things.

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Speaker 6: Are to open to the public. As much as we talk about people's business for a living.

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Speaker 5: Right, I think you should be able to keep some of the elements of your divorce settlement private. And I think, like, I don't even think that's asking too much. I don't even know why they didn't allow that. I mean, have it's like, are you not entertained? Have you not gotten enough out of my life?

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Speaker 6: You know, my marriages.

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Speaker 3: He did say that the opposing party wanted it.

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Speaker 4: To be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that sucks, and Toddy, I need you should be on the same page as your ex wife as far as like not wanting it to be out there. And that's to me, that's just another way of sticking it to you, you know, like I remember when Drew and uh basement guys, what's the husband? The guy I underneath the Stair, I'm sorry Peacock movie, underneath the Stay, I'm sorry my my old age Byanina, I'm sorry forgetting some time.

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Speaker 6: Blame it on my c C if you will.

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Speaker 7: So, Yes, Ralph on the Stairs child.

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Speaker 5: He wanted it public and she didn't, right, Like, I think that's such a whack move like listen, I know we ain't get along right now, but come on, that's just trying to stick it to the person one more time. You want something that it's not to help their partner, it's to hurt them. Usually you're trying to embarrass them with something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't like it, Todd, knock it off.

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Speaker 5: M my opinion, But you know, like I said, it took me twice as long as a marriage get out, so I get it.

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Speaker 6: So I'm glad that it wrapped up quickly.

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Speaker 7: Though you're being kind of Todd. I don't think it wrapping up quickly was because they were communicating. I think it's because Candy's lawyers were lawyering. Because everything I've seen of Todd speaks of the fact that Aunt Bertha was a prophet and we all owe her fruit basket. I think this. I think Todd has been showing his ass since the holidays, and that it's Candy's lawyers that got it so quickly. I honestly, I love when you see a lover girl who is still about her business. And the thing about Candy that I hope everybody takes note of, even when she loved the dog pissed out of that man. She always had her papers in order, she says. She we talked to Camille Grammar and all these other people who have been through divorces, and they had told her, hey, have a close in there that if you guys ever separate, he has to be off the premises in thirty days. Make sure this is this, Make sure this is that. Make sure if he's working with you as a producer, he says, a producer and not just a partner. So legally there are clear lines around whatever whatever. Even when she was madly in love, she was still about her business. And I think all those safeguards that you have in place even when you're in love, just in case the love goes somewhere else completely covered her. And this is a beautiful like infomercial for legal Zoom. The next time, I mean, I like more than twenty minutes. We're going to get us some documents. Candy, you are like literally my north star. Now a BYuT how to deal with people moving forward, Because as a woman with a little bit of money, I recognize when I date men now and the suv comes to pick me up, there's a twinkle that tells me I don't want to see you no more. You know what I mean. We're in a different age with the men of the baddies now. It's tricky. So as somebody out here in these days streets a little bit of coin, I'm taking notes, and I, yeah, make shot the candy and her lawyer's todd you a mess. But shot the candy and her lawyers for doing whatever they did. And of course I want everything to be open because he needs more story.

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Speaker 5: He needs more story, Lou, we gotta start pretending that we're broke.

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Speaker 7: Though I tried a girl. But I can't fly coach.

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Speaker 5: And oh I fly coach all the time, like I'm a coach flying mid all that aren't listen, I'll spend the money.

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Speaker 7: I have a deposition next week. I have an injury that prevents me from flying coach. Carlos flying, I'm not.

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Speaker 5: A boogie flyer and American Airline first classes trash.

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Speaker 7: It's just American airlizes the spirit plus dirty one all day. Baby. I'm sorry. If I can't get I'm not going, but you no, I I honestly think the girls with a coin. You need to watch what Candy is doing because she loved that man, and she still protected herself. That's that's the biggest lesson in this. Love him and still protect yourself.

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Speaker 2: Dustin Bross her thoughts.

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Speaker 8: I think Candy and Todd and Geez about this divorce shit the whole time. I think that all of us were waiting on the other shoe to drop, so to speak, and things never really got publicly nasty. You know, we heard details and we were making inferences and shit, but half of the shit wasn't true. And what we did find out was every time Candy spoke about it, she said, you know, I really think that after we get the divorce worked out, we'll be friends. She's like, we're communicating, we've been functioning as co parents at the kids events, and we're actually taking a trip together. They've been co parenting successfully and I faced this whole time.

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Speaker 4: And much like Candy.

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Speaker 8: Used to do when she was on the Real Housewives of Atlanta, she's already turned this into any event. She has a one woman show coming up in Atlanta that's already sold out, and I think the title is like I Do, I Did, I'm Done, something like that, but she's already posted it, already turned this into a one woman's show.

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Speaker 4: Go Candy, Just go Candy.

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Speaker 8: Been and shit for so long, you know what I'm saying, And she's still the shit today, still besting herself professionally every turn, and it really is inspiring to see. I'm a person who believes, like when you break up or relationship ends, you should be on good terms and have a forever friend, to have somebody that to keep your secrets and hide the dope, so to speak, you know what I'm saying. So like, I like seeing this workout for the two of them in a way that's positive.

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Speaker 4: I enjoy. I'm happy to see that.

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Speaker 6: I am sure I think they're breaking up.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we can talk about what however they behave it was before, but it seems that they're I'm not mad at this breakup.

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Speaker 6: I've seen boyfriend girlfriends break up worse than this.

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Speaker 7: Mh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think they're doing a great job at Listen.

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Speaker 3: We know that there's been a lot of rumors circulating around all these types of accusations, and I think they both have done a good job not speaking about it publicly in a way that could have made things worse for them, and they really kept it in the courtroom and being.

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Speaker 2: On the outside looking again.

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Speaker 3: I feel like they allow them lawyers to be mean towards each other, and they were coladal damage that I love you and love lawyers.

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Speaker 2: That's how it should be.

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Speaker 3: No talk to the lawyers, because that's that's how it should be. And I think that's the reason why we're all happy that And then I get it's messy by both of.

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Speaker 2: Them saying things.

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Speaker 3: So one thing I want to get into that is messy is Cay Michelle on Sherry Shepherd's talk show, Claudia, your cousin caught a stray the beautiful juice a.

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Speaker 4: Door on that floor like that, just laying there was on the floor. I must have missed the bit. I turned around.

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Speaker 8: I was heating one of them turkey wings from yesterday when I was watching it, And by the time I turned back around, Cherry was on the floor in Chartreuse. I didn't know why she was down there on the floor like that was and stayed.

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Speaker 7: It was a lot, Yeah, she stayed down there.

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Speaker 4: Cherry, get up, girls, get up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think seriously, when people put L O L on the floor, laughing my ass off, she like took it seriously.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, no, We're just like, do it.

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Speaker 7: You don't need to.

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Speaker 6: I know we all, but the young kids mean.

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Speaker 7: She couldn't get up, but she couldn't though had no choice.

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Speaker 8: She needed that button they had on them commercials back in the day. I fall and I can't get up. She needed a life alert and that she needed that chair, need to be on a on a railed She could.

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Speaker 4: Do that, but I chare you get up? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So let me start with Dustin then, because Dustin had two sold out shows last week.

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Speaker 2: In New York City. So was this shade or was it factual?

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Speaker 3: Did a Warren Sherry Shevard getting on the floor as they're promoting the new season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, which is coming on in two weeks, they asked about.

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Speaker 2: Dreus of Dora.

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Speaker 3: Sherry Shepard said, I saw on the trailer Kim Michelle that you and Drew got into it. Kim Michelle said, it has nothing to do with music. As much as Drew wanted to, I've always given love and props to beginners.

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Speaker 2: And that's when.

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Speaker 3: Sherry fell on the floor and then laughing at it. Angela Oapley said, that's my Chicago's sister. I love you Kiy Michelle, but I'm gonna have her back. Shout out to Drew starting with you, Dustin. Do you think it was shade for ky Michelle to say she always supported beginners as it relates to drus of Dora's music career.

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Speaker 4: Definitely. I also think that it was.

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Speaker 8: Contradictory because she literally said that she don't she it's not about the music, but then went directly into insulting Drew's music career.

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of like, is it uchio alia one Mike Mama?

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Speaker 8: And we've seen ky Michelle show her entire ass on love and hip hop for multiple seasons, and one of the best parts about watching her shine on that show was her humor and her wit in the moment and in them confessional interview scenes. So I honestly feel like she can do better and I'm looking forward to it. I know it's a new role for her, being a housewife, and shit, you know what I'm saying, She been dressing like you know the fifties what of them wives called what's some wives from the fifties that Stepford wives. Yeah, she's been dressing like that a lot of a lot of you know, tool can can skirts and shit, you know, and big hair.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, Okay, I see what you're doing, but it's a different kym Michelle.

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Speaker 4: I welcome the new, but I just.

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Speaker 8: Want more of the humor and the wit and the funny that the real humor Chemishell is actually funny for real. And I feel like she was holding back on Sherry's couch, but I recognize it's new for her.

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Speaker 4: Give her some time. I'm sure she gonna break out, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Claudia Jordan, I'm kind of sick of people coming for jeral It's like seems like it's like an easy, kind of lazy kind of issues and less there's something that we haven't seen that they there's a real issue for them to really be fighting over. Because I feel like when people come on the show, like it's like, oh, I don't want to fight with any of the other girls.

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Speaker 6: I'll just go up to Drew. I'll just get into it with Drew.

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Speaker 5: And I just feel like it's been done already, like several times. And like Dustin said, she's funny, like she can find humor another way. Listen, they're different, they're on different levels musically. But let's not act like Drew with some beginner bum when it comes to music. Let's not act like she'd have one of the best albums out last year. Let's not act like she wasn't up for Grammy consideration. Let's not act like she's not like a talented person. And then like shade her movies, movies that no one's seen. Jew's been on the scene longer than all of us. I think, you know what I'm saying, like Drew's but she's been around for a long time, and I just think that people think that Drew is an easy target. But after last season, I think Drew showed that she's she's not really.

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Speaker 6: To be played with like that.

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Speaker 5: Like, I don't know, I don't think that it's in a goal the way people think that she just to get punked and say nothing.

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Speaker 6: She's not loud.

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Speaker 5: She's gonna be like smirky and say her shade with a smile. But I just feel like it's a kind of I don't know, I'm kind of it's like at some point it's like all right, and every.

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Speaker 6: Season that Drew gotta get this she gotta every season.

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Speaker 5: Like, let's let's go a different rounde unless, like I said, if she's totally justified and Drew some does some crazy thing that came in shot, We're like, oh my god, Drew, you was wrong.

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Speaker 6: But if it's just like all right, I'm picking you.

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Speaker 3: Nay, this is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 2: Blue, you better look.

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Speaker 7: Out for your cousin.

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Speaker 6: I'm about my family, you know what.

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Speaker 7: So interesting, I think Drew's biggest sin because I do agree that I've known Drew Door since she was with Durwin playing Juice of Door. Okay, that's how long the lady been around, like she played herself shout out to the game. But though I'm thinking about just the archetypes of all the Bravo girls, and I think Drew's biggest sin when it comes to the audience and the co stars is that she is a bit of a try hard in people's eyes, like you want like you know how too many I may got on the stage and said I really want to ask us, so everybody made sure he didn't get one because he was two pressed. Drew really wants a lot of things and lets us know how badly she wants them and doesn't have a poke her face. And people sometimes penalize you for that in these shows. They see it like a weakness. It's almost like a constant hazy, like we know how bad you want it, so if you try to get it and it's not an epic success, we're gonna chip away at you. So I do think that Kay Michelle, who's done really well musically and we're not gonna lie kill Michelle's is a superstar musically, right, Because she Drew wanted that level of stardom so bad, it's almost like an obvious weakness for her to poke at it is lazy and cheap, it's also very obvious, right. I also think for me, Drew reminds me I can't even about to say this. I know my guy's gonna disagree, But imagine if Stacy and Angel had a baby. That to what Drew feels like. Because she is fun and playful and will give it back. I'm from I'm from Chicago, like a Stacy, but she lie a lot and we kind of look away, and then there are times where she just pulls an Angel and like, oh, Drew, get up and so she It's like, it's like an oscillating fan. Is the fan gonna be cool like Stacy or hot like she does? She's an Angel Stacey hybrid in my opinion. So I think that's why the girls be conflicted with her, be rude for her, and then I don't, and then I do again, and then Ralph, what is Ralph? I'm so happy Ralph's out of her basement. So yeah, Drew is a complicated character. And though I will say this, her longevity speaks unlike Angel, her longevity speaks for itself. The lady's been around for decades in this industry. So just based on her IMDb page, we do have to put some more respect on her name.

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Speaker 5: I mean, move all kinds of stuff that she's done. I mean, I hate people about people's careers. It ain't like we all.

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Speaker 4: Don't want to be bigger and on the same show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, how are you gonna shave me? We have the same You actually came on the show that I it on for five years.

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Speaker 8: And while Drew may not have as much success as Cae Michelle in music, Drew Sodora is relevant to entertainment overall because she's been acting since she was a fucking child. That literally, so like she has just as much equity and entertainment or value to the entertainment industry as a K.

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Speaker 4: Michelle does.

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Speaker 8: In fact, if they both walk down the street in uh Van Nights, California. You know what I'm saying, who you think gonna get recognized first?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: Like, I you got to think about that before you start running your mouth about shit.

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Speaker 4: So I'm a Claudia on this one.

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Speaker 8: I don't really like the music shaming shit, you know what I'm saying, Like, y'all on the same show, Find something else to argue about.

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Speaker 7: Find I think to your point is Drew's resume speaks for herself. But there's an openness to Drew like an angel, Like she wants to be a part of the collective that those girls they pounce on, they see it as whether we want to admit or not. If you act like you care, they're gonna see it as a weakness.

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Speaker 5: Which kind of sucks, right because it's like you damn if you do you damn if you don't write, like if you act like you don't care, like that's oh you one of the cool kids and that I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just I get sick of it, and and I want to just make it very very clear. Ky Michelle, hella talented. You got that.

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Speaker 5: The voice is amazing, You're super funny, Juice of Door. You are you you you. I love how you've pivoted since you've been on the show. You have a very very long acting resume, and you can sing, and you put together a really good album. Like there's room for both of these ladies, Like there's room for both of them. I wish they could have collabed, but you know that ain't gonna happen again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'll say this.

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Speaker 3: I as somebody who worked with Cam Michelle on Love and Hip Hop the first two seasons, and Kate Michelle is a force to be reckoned with. I thought ky Michelle was being kind with the Shade, because we know ky Michelle can't and one sentence and discerate you. So I thought the beginner's thing was very much light shade. I didn't think it was that serious. I grew with the guys.

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Speaker 2: I think the.

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Speaker 3: Overreaction with the people around her made it bigger. I think I think if we all sat there.

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Speaker 2: And just did, it would not have been as big.

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Speaker 3: I think the people around her made it bigger than what ca Michell was saying.

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Speaker 2: That's how I took it.

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Speaker 3: I think Michelle was definitely trying to play it nicer. The other thing for me is this, I have been very public about how talented Juice of Dora is musically. I literally my my end of year Spotify in the last year, Juice of Dora was up there with Brandy and Beyonce in terms of how how many times I play the album. Juice of Dors Blues Will Talk's album I did it to me is.

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Speaker 7: Maybe I'm gonna listen to a child.

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Speaker 3: It's what I did it, and it's it's fan. It's fan, Clia. I'm actually wearing shorts. In case you were curious, I was like, claud.

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Speaker 7: Came out, know draws.

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Speaker 4: Short. It's like the two Crucid move some.

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Speaker 7: We all suddenly started.

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Speaker 6: Flood lately.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Claudia, Okay, So the thing.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I think you can't deny Juice of Dora's musicality. You can't deny Kim and Show's musicality. I would me, Carlos King, I would have preferred that, uh, those two would have did what Meani did tomorrow, like two people everybody expected to be and Ninnie flipped and said, coming, girl, Yeah, we're gonna I'm gonna befriend you again. We don't know what happened. We haven't watched this season. I also agree with this. I don't like the pouncing on one person we're seeing down on Billy Hills with Amanda. We saw the States and Potomac. It's not good television. I hope that everybody is impounding on Drew. It doesn't make for good TV. I want I want unexpected beats. I'm not gonna name names until we watched the season. There are so many obvious people to beef with that it makes me bored when y'all let this one or two get away with everything, and y'all don't challenge them, and y'all don't y'all don't y'all.

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Speaker 9: Don't do y'all don't do what Kenya Moore used to do. You know what I'm saying, which is, let let me spar with somebody that's unexpected, like to go for expected.

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Speaker 3: To me, it is lazy. We haven't seen what happen yet. I can't wait to see it. But I hope that everybody is not positive on juice. Dora's not what I want.

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Speaker 8: To watch the season We almost got a new beef. We almost got a new beef today though, did y'all pep doing that Sherry interview when Sherry had made a yoda ling she was, she was like, she made a yodeling noise, like she was yolderling at referencing Kay Michelle. And then it was like a two second beat and came and Shell was like, and it's a real talent.

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Speaker 4: Watch watch that part. Go back, y'all gonna make.

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Speaker 7: Me turn to come you know, you know Sherry's sensitive.

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Speaker 4: Tell me what they say in the comments too, but ship off again.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna read down againk.

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Speaker 8: Michelle was Sherry Sheppard did imitated a yodeling noise, and she was referencing the fact that came Michelle can yodle, but I think came. Michelle was slick offended by it because literally it was like a two second beat and she was like, and it's.

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Speaker 4: A real talent and you know that real come out. Just go back and watch that clip.

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Speaker 7: Will because us to your point, She's very sensitive about how people don't put enough respect on how long she's been a cowgirl?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, her actual roots.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she didn't get it from watching Beyonce. Like she really is a country girl. Who's proud about that. So if all the things for Chry to make fun of, and honestly, Sherry, you know again, Sherry is very sensitive because remember that one time Nia long Chin checked her and she cried about it for two weeks.

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Speaker 4: I was there. Oh that was at the Fellow premiere. I was right there.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, right, yeah, really said because Sherry looked very Okay, Okay, it isn't.

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Speaker 3: Funny like you want to say who it was dusting that? M hm, that's her name, Ryan would be.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you later.

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Speaker 8: But I ain't gonna do that ship for the you know.

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Speaker 7: The chat, in the chat, I've been my part.

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Speaker 3: Join the bag, baby, I'm but look, the thing is that I'm looking forward to Atlanta house Wise. It returns on Easter Sunday, April fifth, on brah Bo. Okay, speaking of Bravo, we have to see if these girls broke girl code Blue and Claudia and of course Dustin.

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Speaker 2: I wanna get your thoughts too.

00:24:06
Speaker 3: So if you've been watching Maritime medicine this season, we all know that Quad was dating this man named King.

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Speaker 2: They have recently broken up.

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Speaker 3: We've learned they've broken up because King decided to reveal it first. I did an interview with Toya, Butch Harris and Eugene and Toya. My interview mentioned at her and Eugene still are friends with King despite the break of a Quad and that you know Eugene and King develop a friendship.

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Speaker 2: So Dustin and Claudia over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: I actually want to say, yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, Toya, Toya posted this.

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Speaker 2: It's not like a fan watch saw it. Toya posted this, and I want to show it to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So in this, Toya Bush Harris says, I just try to be nice and consistent to everybody.

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Speaker 2: I know.

00:25:12
Speaker 3: It's messy af it is Toya and Simone with King at the Atlanta Hawks game. A lot of people have a lot of strong opinions on this.

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Speaker 2: I want to start with the ladies, starting with you.

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Speaker 3: Blue, did Toya as Simone break girl code? Because if you met this guy courtesy of me introducing him to you.

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Speaker 7: And.

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Speaker 3: Y'all are still friends with him, Toya says, she still follows King. Should Simone and Toya, out of solidarity for.

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Speaker 2: Their friend, Quad, not befriend King any further.

00:26:00
Speaker 7: I think it's calculated, corny hater behavior. I think it's very transparent. It's not a Scooby Doo mystery. It was meant to be messy. Bro Like, I think you look stupid for you to sit there and put on that heavy fucking filter. Excuse me, sorry, let me kill for you to sit there and put on that heavy filter and smile next to this man, knowing what your girl has been through and how she wanted to have a child with him. They had a breakup. It's probably still painful. It's probably so fresh the public is just finding out about it. And if you do not just take the heavily filtered picture but post it with that caption. It's corny, it's transparent, it's dusty behavior. I don't think it's I don't even think it's debatable, to be perfectly honest, because it's not like they were torn because they had this deep, soul searching relationship with him and her and they didn't want to choose. There's an argument for that, right, they had a shallow Reality TV experience with him where they washed him run off Greg and he wouldn't go nowhere. And now he's left Claude, so now he's claud gets to use her mouths collateral damage. Right. I don't like it that picture was for Quad, and I actually have been in a situation where I stopped being friends with someone and they ran into my ex and I was later told by a third party that they wanted to get link up to take a picture despite me not knowing. I had to block both of them. You also performing for yourselves. I didn't buy tickets for the show, So as someone who's been that person who knows how dusties find each other in the dark to try to mess up your light, I think it's whack behavior. And it lets me know that you guys think about Quad. It she is a re free in your mind, miss Quad, Miss Quad, miss Quad.

00:27:30
Speaker 2: Still that girl, Claudia.

00:27:34
Speaker 6: You're not my friends.

00:27:36
Speaker 2: Yep, you're not.

00:27:37
Speaker 5: First of all, I don't fight anymore, but like that would make me feel like the urge, like you met him through me. This is not the first time y'all be a friend in an ex and then played in my face. That's where it's really like it ain't like a oh my bad. It's one thing if you were friends. I had friends that knew a guy before me, but when they saw how dirty he did me, they were like, I knew him longer, but I'm not messing with him on the strength of what he did to you. So no, like, I think this is mean toy and simoan, Like you knew what she was doing and you're on a TV show.

00:28:11
Speaker 6: You know the blogs are gonna pick it up. You're doing it for that.

00:28:14
Speaker 5: I know it's messy, but no, man, we're our friends, and next season I'm gonna make it very clear that I'm not your front if you do that, because you know all the the whether you like her or not. Like she's going through a public breakup after the failure to get pregnant and that's a sensitive time, and you're gonna take a picture with my op and all everyone's smiling and laughing, and then you know, again, it really.

00:28:36
Speaker 6: Pissed me on people do the things publicly.

00:28:38
Speaker 7: You can see him and.

00:28:38
Speaker 5: Be like, hey, what's up, man, Yeah, you know, come buy the house. Were having to cook ouh blah blah blah.

00:28:42
Speaker 6: But posting a picture in this day and age when everything all the blogs, you know, they're all watching, it's just it's just mean. I think it's mean. I think it's mean.

00:28:51
Speaker 8: Dustin They jealous of Choir got bigger balls than all of them. She was willing to leave her fucking her husband. She was willing to leave her husband and move on with her life. And that's something that they didn't have the hutzpa to do. Okay, we watched Simone and her husband, Cecil, have that breakdown live on the reunion. I believe it was season six or seven. One of them had that breakdown on the reunion stage. Came back together, beautiful moment. But Simone has been one to leave. She moved to the South House or the North House, whatever it was. She been wanted to get down, get on down the road from Cecil. She alluded to it again this season, and I think that there's something in her and Toya that is jealous of Quad's quest for independence and her win at that quest. Right, Quid ain't never needed a nigga for shit. She saved all her money when she was missed. She's talked about it openly, how she saved all her money from the show and invested it and put herself in a great position. She living just as good as them with that. And they're married to doctor Simone is a physician. Toya is married to a physician. Quad is keeping up by her damn self. Then she finds a man who actually is willing to love her in public. They have a good what we thought would looked like a good relationship at first. I think they wanted to see that shit fail. I think they care about Quid because they've been around each other for twelve years now. But there's a jealousy there because Quid has always been on her independent shit. She didn't want to give her ex husband a baby. That gave her hell for that. Maybe you need to think about having a baby, think about what he wants, all that other shit and now look, you know, she could have been stuck and linked tied to that motherfucker forever, you know. And like you said, there's a pattern here. They did it here and made us suffer.

00:30:36
Speaker 4: We was not.

00:30:36
Speaker 8: It was mighty bad years. The seasons we had to suffer through, Sweet Tea was it was hard for us and we had to experience that suffrage because of Toya and then wanting to be messy and bring her on the damn show.

00:30:50
Speaker 4: So this is a pattern.

00:30:52
Speaker 8: Even though Toya looked really pretty in that heavily filtered picture, that was a pretty picture of Toya.

00:30:59
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, she looked really pretty. But that was messy.

00:31:03
Speaker 8: And now when Qui get on there next season, I don't want to hear nobody crying when Qui come on there, cussing them the fuck out, digging straight in their business.

00:31:10
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear Ship because this is the gateway right here. Qui was being fair in part one of the reunion.

00:31:19
Speaker 8: This this is that Toya started it, Toya and Simon because some on all that leaning in POKINGO, all that.

00:31:27
Speaker 4: That you don't have to do, all that you could have been like you know what I'm saying. It was leaning and Ship. They gonna pay for that.

00:31:34
Speaker 8: And I can't wait to see Qui tear they asses up next season.

00:31:37
Speaker 6: So that picture was for Quad, nobody else but quiet.

00:31:45
Speaker 7: Some hating ass tricks. I'm sorry. And to be that old and hate folk, I'm sorry. Once you let me let me breathe. I have a thing about people who hate to see other people when even when they're winning, we talk about soor losers we don't talk about sort them. Some people in this world. I hate that mean, nobody doing better than it's hating on you. Have you ever been to New York or LA. That's a lie. You're serious, that's a lie. Right, And so we don't talk about people who will have all the fact similes of success because they still have that hole inside of them. They're never satisfied that exists. People could be successful and still be hateful. This is a perfect example.

00:32:25
Speaker 4: Hopefully Quod is hateful next season, because.

00:32:30
Speaker 3: I think that's why I happened, the reason why I wanted to emphasize that.

00:32:33
Speaker 2: Look.

00:32:33
Speaker 3: Toya posted this on her own page mentioned I know it's messy, af I know Toya may not be the.

00:32:43
Speaker 2: Most championed person.

00:32:46
Speaker 3: I think Toya is playing a Reality Stars game. Yeah, and she's playing she's doing this. I think Toya is doing this for her content for next season. Quad is going to deliver to see Quad versus his toy. Yeah, both women who have the first chair after reunion with Claudia and Blows the first time that non doctors got first chair.

00:33:09
Speaker 2: After reunion of Wow.

00:33:12
Speaker 7: Jackie was probably putting in the bag.

00:33:15
Speaker 2: Sorry she didn't share a dressing room with some mom.

00:33:19
Speaker 8: But look I I wouldn't have either of that. Damn yelling shut up some I'm trying to put my dress on.

00:33:25
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't want it to be in there either.

00:33:28
Speaker 8: Simon, but you please shut the fuck. You know, Jackie probably would have told that. Should Jackie be touching backstage, I could have retired.

00:33:39
Speaker 7: I could have retired, but you couldn't, okay, because you have eighteen dependents.

00:33:42
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

00:33:45
Speaker 5: Sorry, cast over kids, castover kids, people.

00:33:52
Speaker 6: Trying to shame me.

00:33:53
Speaker 7: Oh you kids.

00:33:54
Speaker 6: Oh, I ain't gonna know that. How was Disneyland with your four breaths? I was a r at the Ritz? Okay anyway, sorry.

00:34:06
Speaker 3: Lord, go ahead, Okay, our last thing of the night before I'll let you all go at it. Enjoy the rest of your night, your cats, your food, your men, and your leftover It's okay.

00:34:19
Speaker 2: So the last thing is.

00:34:22
Speaker 3: Mariti Medicine Reunion. So listen, rain Drops go to Patreon. Me and Dusty recaptain Ty Reunion. I want to talk about this clip first. I can't show her for copyright reasons, but you guys watched it to Blue and Claudia it's Simone and Jackie. You know, this is a thirty year friendship. And Simone is pissed at Jackie because she felt that Jackie did not have her back against Doctor Heavenly and Simone is adamant that she cannot get past this. Do you think, Claudia that Simone is overreacting?

00:35:01
Speaker 2: I don't know.

00:35:03
Speaker 6: I'm trying to remember everything about that part. I was like, wait, why you go to me first? I might not myself to remind myself. See, I told you I have.

00:35:18
Speaker 7: She really has a notebook.

00:35:22
Speaker 3: To someone else, I will say this we on somebody else. You missed it earlier. Somebody in the chest said, thank you. You almost saved their life because they were able to get the lie bloods cells y.

00:35:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted. I wanted to make sure you knew that.

00:35:39
Speaker 3: All right, So as Claudia remembers, I'm gonna go to Blue, y'all.

00:35:44
Speaker 7: Remember and follow me. I have a little bit of ADHD sponsored by ADHD. The girls, yes, the girls might know. Back in the day, there was this product in every household of anybody who was getting a whole home perm with low density hair. It was called Pink Moisturizer.

00:35:59
Speaker 4: Pink.

00:36:01
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, I feel blusters.

00:36:05
Speaker 7: Yes, moisturizer, right, it smell like petroleum and bad credit. Yes, I feel like Doctor Jackie and Simona like the pink let's just pink moisturizer rendition of the Green Eyed Bandits. It's like, you know, the greed from the other potomac. I feel like where Gazelle finally spread her wings and let that lady go, and they did reasonably shady elsewhere, but on the franchise still for herself, we saw a different I think it was good for Gazelle. So in the same way, when if I think of that duo, I think of the pink, lusterous moisturizer. For some reason, those two are just like these two old friends who have bad habits, but they have lots of years, lots of love, lots of codependency, And I think I would actually like them individually better because they're like an echo chamber with each other. They tend to reward each other's bad behavior and do the whole mean Auntie thing where they're roasting people all you know, low dence, the hair just angry all the time, And so I personally would prefer if they broke up. I think the home per abandits. If they broke up, I think they'd be better people. I think they'd be kinder. I also think, just like we're seeing with Beverly Hills. By the way Carlos interview did with Amanda from Beverly Hills, I'm so happy you did that. Thank you, because the way the elders who I used to I love several people on that show, but the way they treated Amanda just showed me about this generational divide that happens when a certain old guard does not want to relinquish to the young girls, and how they're nasty elders. I'm bringing that up because it feels the same way with Simona Jackie.

00:37:37
Speaker 3: We do a whole episode about that, because it happens in this industry where the all guard does not want to relinquish the opportunities to the younger generation.

00:37:47
Speaker 2: Coming up. Sorry I am projecting, No, it's true.

00:37:50
Speaker 7: It's very true though, because the reason why I'm bringing that up is when they see the girls be healthier, they resent the health that they didn't know how to advocate for and when it was their turn to be young, and there's a resentment there that has them by the ankles again. And I just think that if they broke up as friends, they might have to figure out how to actually be hospitable and upgrade and maybe put away the moisturizer and go get a blowout Dominican Salona something child. The girls who know about black hair know what I mean when I say love them toity pink moisturize at home.

00:38:17
Speaker 2: From your understanding, no, I used it when I had hair back in the day.

00:38:20
Speaker 3: I don't get it, Okay, I know exactly what you're talking about, all right, dustin your thoughts.

00:38:28
Speaker 8: I I I hear you, Blue, I hear you.

00:38:33
Speaker 4: I hear where you're coming from.

00:38:35
Speaker 8: I think that in this case, also, Simone is very resentful of Jackie and Heavenly having a legitimate, actual friendship, because they do.

00:38:45
Speaker 4: They're actual, real friends.

00:38:47
Speaker 8: They talk daily on the phone, hang out all the time off camera, and they're an unlikely pair, which those are the sometimes the best, most fulfilling friendships. Right the motherfucker you didn't never thought you would have been cool with, they end up being your best friend and you're like, wow. And I think that the moment that doctor Jackie took Doctor Heavenly seriously and actually connected with her and became bessies with her.

00:39:15
Speaker 4: I think that Simon was.

00:39:18
Speaker 8: Affected by that, and I think that that's what we're seeing. Simon don't give a fuck about Heavenly saying she pushed her.

00:39:25
Speaker 4: That's just her.

00:39:26
Speaker 8: That's the device that she's using to force Doctor Jackie to pick a side in their friendship and take her side over Heavenly for once in her mind, you know.

00:39:35
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

00:39:37
Speaker 8: And I think that that that's the long and short of it. It's a lot of other shit there too, But I just think that she hates the fact that jack that Doctor Jackie actually loves Doctor Heavenly.

00:39:47
Speaker 7: But do's a actual question because I love that, you up, because they actually I love the girls who were mean back in the day are the same girls who would judge a Heavenly m right. Think about this, right, there's a certain respectability politics that Simone and Jackie have. In an echo chamber, Heavenly is seen as the hood ride who's called her husband Daddy all the time and running around and having no cuth and you know, just being a little bit on white fridge. She's been a little white white fridge in their eyes. For doctor Jackie the bougiest to be so cool with the country. You know, hey girl, hey one. I feel like some part of Simone's superiority complex is offended by that.

00:40:27
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

00:40:30
Speaker 7: I love is the girl who's my replacement.

00:40:32
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

00:40:34
Speaker 8: And it's crazy because Simone actually has a lot in common with Heavenly when it comes to their willingness to cross certain.

00:40:41
Speaker 7: Lines getto two friends respect.

00:40:43
Speaker 4: You know.

00:40:43
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, The best of us are, so I just feel like, you know, I feel like that's what this whole problem is. This is all Simone expressing that she don't want Doctor Jackie and Doctor Heavenly to be close friends, and she feels displaced by the authentic city of their friendship. It's one thing for Doctor Jackie to fuck around Doctor Heavenly on the show and shit, but the minute that that turned into a real, years long friendship to the point now where as you can see, Simone is literally crying on TV for Doctor Jackie to take her side over at Doctor Heavenly's side, but Heavenly.

00:41:19
Speaker 7: Defends her more. If I have a writer as a bougie girl who tends to have hood friends, I have a hood friend who has my back on some well, I'm giving my little EQ speeches. I'm gonna have her back.

00:41:31
Speaker 8: Back also blue, let's zoom out. Doctor Heavenly is funnier than Doctor Simone. While Doctor Simone is funny, doctor Heavenly is more funny. I know that doctor Jackie, who we've seen like to laugh for years.

00:41:44
Speaker 4: That's a little mess that she likes to laugh.

00:41:46
Speaker 8: They make good friends, and I think people just got to deal with that, you know what I'm saying. I actually think it's dope that they found a friendship like that in an unlikely setting.

00:41:55
Speaker 4: I think it's dope.

00:41:56
Speaker 8: And I think doctor Simone should just get with the program instead of trying to act like she had a Just get with the program, keep checking it like you've been doing. Just get with the program.

00:42:04
Speaker 5: That's easy, said thing down though, a girl. Friendships are so damn delicate, and if you need.

00:42:09
Speaker 4: To grow up, they stay sixty.

00:42:11
Speaker 8: But yeah, at point, but they become a woman in friendship.

00:42:18
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna listen.

00:42:20
Speaker 5: I'm fifty three years old, I'm about to be I've had this happen like recently, Like it doesn't ever go away. It's just a thing Like men, y'all can have fights, y'all can get into fist fights with each other, and y'all can play one game of basketball or dap each other up, and y'all get past it. With women, it could be so small as she looked at me, funny, I think she's shading me. And if you have a friend for thirty years and then she just gets super close to someone else, a lot of times, you feel like you're the odd man out. I used to call it being leap frog, Like if I introduce you to someone, then y'all end up getting super super close, and I'm like the odd.

00:42:50
Speaker 6: Man out or whatever.

00:42:51
Speaker 5: She's in her feelings about this, like she's not meaning simone is in her feelings about that.

00:42:56
Speaker 6: And it's super hard to it's super hard to come back from that.

00:43:00
Speaker 5: Like I know, it sounds like an immature thing, but it's still a thing that I see happen a lot. Right, It's hard to have a friendship with three people, It really really is.

00:43:08
Speaker 2: I do you know, you know what?

00:43:12
Speaker 7: Can we be honest? Can we all just be honest? If that man was cracking her back properly and her her son believe her credit card alone, she'd have a lot more grace for everybody else. This is to me, this is not even about the friendships. If she was happier at home, she wouldn't be so worried about aybody else's business and their friendships.

00:43:26
Speaker 5: No one likes to see someone that they're closed with, super close with someone else, someone that you look down upon.

00:43:34
Speaker 6: That part, so you're like, wait her, So yes, you know what I mean.

00:43:38
Speaker 11: So it's it's I do want to add this and listen, this is a on this panel because it's a balanced view between men and women. I do want to say this because I'm not a woman, and I'm not speaking on behalf of women when I say this, I'm speaking on behalf of somebody who grew up with sisters, who grew up being everybody's best friend, all the girls, right. And I grew up, obviously in this industry working on shows about women. So I would like to mention what I do see on the outside looking in when it comes to female relationships.

00:44:17
Speaker 3: And there is a lot of truth to what you guys are saying when it comes to.

00:44:23
Speaker 2: Female friendships.

00:44:24
Speaker 3: Whether you're ten, one hundred is very delicate because as much as let's be real here, right, We're gonna be real tonight. As much as y'all love to say as women, women.

00:44:38
Speaker 6: Support women, No, no, that's.

00:44:41
Speaker 3: That's that's okay, okay, okay, okay, that that that's that that's not the case. I recently watched Oprah Winfrey's interview with the woman who.

00:44:51
Speaker 2: Was caught on the kissing cam at the Coldplay concert. Oh my god, did you watch an interview?

00:44:58
Speaker 6: Not all of it, but I've seen enough.

00:45:01
Speaker 3: I watched all fifty eight minutes of it, and the main not the main thing. One of the biggest things I extracted from that interview is when she said how it was women who attacked her the most, and the fact that that that not only happened amongst women. She'll be at the hotel with her daughter and women will go up point their fingerfits called her a whore.

00:45:25
Speaker 4: Right.

00:45:26
Speaker 3: The man who really lied to her about not being separated from his wife, he lied, She said, can you release a statement? He said no, because I lied to my wife. We're not mean I lie to you. Me and my wife aren't separated. Her husband released a statement saying we are separating me and this woman. She can do what she want to do. The gag is her husband was also at the Coplet concert on the date. My point is this, she said, this man got many offers for work.

00:46:01
Speaker 2: She hasn't worked since the Coplay concerts.

00:46:04
Speaker 3: And she said she was surprised that women were mean to her. So I said that to say the thing with female friendships, I do think you guys clocked it.

00:46:14
Speaker 2: You know, there is something very there's.

00:46:17
Speaker 3: A hierarchy when it comes to Simone and Jackie in Heavenly, they were the golden girls at some point.

00:46:25
Speaker 2: However, if you guys listen carefully.

00:46:28
Speaker 3: Simone does love to throw out their friend of thirty years, friend of thirty years meeting I've had you for thirty years.

00:46:36
Speaker 2: I do think you guys are on just something. You say, this woman who comes across a little bit.

00:46:41
Speaker 3: Uncouth, unsavory has now been somebody who you're more friends with, to the point where on Watch What Happens Live, you did not defend me in terms of saying Heavenly was wrong. And I do want you guys to really just go in on the fact that when it comes to female relationships, why is this so sensitive and why is it that women are in competition with other.

00:47:09
Speaker 7: Women very simply. I just want to make sure the word women is being panned out. Insecure women are have delicate relationships. Women who are not secure are always going to be delicate to deal with because misogyny, society, patriarchy, whatever, has already told them that there's not enough space for all of us and there has to be a hierarchy. So women who are uninvolved, women who are insecure, women who are emotionally delicate are always going to be combative in that way. In the same way, if you see two black people at Harvard, they might have some beef as well because they're dealing from the same lack of insecurity. For me and I can only speak for me, and I feel like that's the one Dustin talks about his healthy queer relationships and we're like, oh, that's the thing. Okay, I'm gonna say this right now. I don't have any of this in my female friendships because I am a secure lone wolf who tends to befriend other secure lone wolves who are independent thinkers. Are female friendships mimic more which y'all think are masculine friendships, because the kind of woman who can be my friend has to be somebody who knows Blue's not gonna buy her tongue, and she thinks you want some bullshits, She's gonna tell you. We used to seeing that with men. But I'm a woman who does it, and I only have friends with other women who do that. And so when you're dealing with secure women, to Claudia's point, the reason why Claudia can be a girl's girls because Claudia has her own shit going on. Claudia has already been through the LIGs. She's already learned how to have grace for herself so she can give grace to others. She's already learned how to make money in her own so she's not hating on anybody else. When you meet securely attached women, the relationships actually aren't delicate. We're talking about insecure women. Of course, insecure women have insecure relationships. I think that's gender neutral, right, But because we socialize it, because we socialize it to be a woman thing, and unlike men, women actually do have to worry about the lack because there really is only three spots. Sometimes we didn't make that up. That's actually patriarchy, right. We have less grace to give because we're lower on the food chain, And so my thing is, rather than being worried about how women's friendships are, what kind of women do you align with? If you are hating as bitch who has problems at home, and you hate your home life and your entire identity is me and you being mean girls, so superior to others. Of course you're gonna fit away when I humanize the riff raft that you thought was beneath us, right, because you were already like that before the riff rash showed up. But if you like yourself, then it's easier for us to bring other people into the frame. And so, yes, insecure women, I cannot be friends with women who are insecure. But if you are a woman who really likes themselves, which is probably why I have so many aries female friends, women who like themselves don't have these problems, respectfully, And you're telling yourselves if your female friendships are delicate, your female friends are delicate, and that's the real issue.

00:49:35
Speaker 2: Claudia.

00:49:38
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm thinking about my friend Zuka right now. When I lose a.

00:49:42
Speaker 5: Friend, my non ho friend Annie, I don't lose a lot of female friends, and when I do, it's a big deal for me. I'm like, damn, how is I wrong? Because I love going out with like a bo a mask peup of women. Everyone's holding their own knowns, tripping you're getting only guys are talking to year you are. They're all that nonsense. There's none of that. Everyone had, everyone got it going on, And yeah, I don't really have these kind of problems.

00:50:08
Speaker 6: It's usually like a new friend. Yeah, I I agree with a lot of stuff that Blue set about that.

00:50:15
Speaker 5: Uh, But a lot of times they're just not happy at the crib or they live in a fake life. I had a friend that had false security, right, and someone said her name in the chat. They said, I see you don't hang with that girl that was meting with that guy's husband. I mean that girl's husband. Yes, I don't hang with that girl anymore. I don't hang with the mistress because I clocked I found ou who she really was. I don't hang with her anymore. You're right, y'all clocked it because she was she had Oh yeah, she had fake confidence.

00:50:42
Speaker 2: Right.

00:50:42
Speaker 5: You have a friend that's like they have the look, they have the bags, they have the things, and they you think they have confidence, but they really are not happy because at the end of the day, they're fucking some old guy. They can't stand right, and so to fund said fake lifestyle, and those were the biggest haters amongst the group, them fake secure women. And those were the same ones that have women's comment brunches and be like, oh, it's women's empowerment brunch, and you be the biggest haters because it's like a fake it's that fake confidence.

00:51:11
Speaker 6: And yeah, I don't hang with those girls anymore.

00:51:13
Speaker 2: All right, final word from Dustin.

00:51:16
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, Keep your circle small, keep them snake ass motherfuckers around from you, you know what I'm saying, And watch your back. You know me personally, I like peace. I like positive people around me. Were gonna laugh and have a good time. But I don't be around no.

00:51:31
Speaker 4: Fucked up ass people that I gotta watch my back around, you know what I'm saying.

00:51:35
Speaker 8: So like I've been, I'm grateful to hear stories about I'm grateful to not have experienced some of the things that I hear people experience in friendship.

00:51:44
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

00:51:45
Speaker 8: I cherish my friendships and I ride about mine and I haven't had no snakes like that around me. Thank god. You know, I stay woke and keep my head on swivel. But I'm around good people. So I like all my friends winning. I like being around a bunch of winners, you know what I'm saying. I like it to be more than one person. Like we all are successful in our own right. We're all close to each other in our own ways. It's cool for us to have individual relationships amongst the group. I'm with all that, So I don't know, it's just, you know, when it comes to friendship, you know, taking it off because I definitely can't speak to women's friendships, but just speaking of friendship, like, that's how I like to row.

00:52:23
Speaker 3: So Rain Johns let us know in the comments. And again the full a Maritime Medicine recaps on my Patreon Claudia Dusted Blue. I love you guys some much beat up for this and I'll see you guys on the next one.

00:52:36
Speaker 4: Bye y'all,