Episode 256
Several elderly women appear to have died of natural causes, until March of 2018 when a 91-year-old woman survives a brutal attack. As the pieces come together, police are led to a man named Billy Chemirmir—but unfortunately, they may be too late.
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2024-01-15
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1 00:00:00,382 --> 00:00:04,113 Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence and is not 2 00:00:04,153 --> 00:00:08,566 intended for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:15,855 --> 00:00:18,028 Two green rubber balloons. 4 00:00:19,382 --> 00:00:22,117 Number one, I should not have opened the door. 5 00:00:23,490 --> 00:00:27,282 When I was two, my life was in great danger. 6 00:00:31,222 --> 00:00:37,398 Welcome to Season 11, Episode 256 of Sword and Scale, a show 7 00:00:37,418 --> 00:00:40,446 that reveals that the worst monsters are real. 8 00:00:46,580 --> 00:00:58,981 よろしくお願いします。 As much as I would have loved to have launched 9 00:00:59,221 --> 00:01:02,926 season 11 alongside our brand new shiny app and website. 10 00:01:03,944 --> 00:01:07,005 It's not quite ready yet. You can't always get what you want 11 00:01:07,045 --> 00:01:11,372 anyway, so. We're still working on it, but we certainly didn't 12 00:01:11,372 --> 00:01:14,094 want to keep you guys waiting for weeks and weeks and weeks. 13 00:01:14,694 --> 00:01:17,717 So our release schedule for the next couple of weeks is going to 14 00:01:17,717 --> 00:01:19,758 be a little bit irregular until launch. 15 00:01:20,770 --> 00:01:25,434 So thank you for your patience, but believe me. It'll be worth 16 00:01:25,434 --> 00:01:25,817 the wait. 17 00:01:56,968 --> 00:01:58,909 Man. I'm getting old. 18 00:02:00,162 --> 00:02:01,371 I get a sword back. 19 00:02:02,402 --> 00:02:04,590 My parts hurt in places they shouldn't. 20 00:02:05,890 --> 00:02:08,033 Soon I'm going to have to start shopping on Amazon for one of 21 00:02:08,033 --> 00:02:10,898 those little daily pill holders for all my meds. 22 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:14,112 Racking up those CVS points. 23 00:02:15,574 --> 00:02:18,785 That's okay, because... I'm coming to terms with it. 24 00:02:20,055 --> 00:02:23,060 Maybe even... Becoming fine with it. I mean... 25 00:02:24,086 --> 00:02:25,157 We're all going to get there. 26 00:02:26,306 --> 00:02:29,774 I know you Zoomers out there think you're... Way above the 27 00:02:29,794 --> 00:02:31,581 whole growing old thing, but uh... 28 00:02:32,747 --> 00:02:33,355 Got news for ya. 29 00:02:34,722 --> 00:02:37,482 It'll be in my shoes before you know it. 30 00:02:38,882 --> 00:02:42,073 You see, there's some things in life that you just can't do 31 00:02:42,134 --> 00:02:45,365 anything about, no matter how much you want to. 32 00:02:46,850 --> 00:02:50,623 We all get old. And if we're lucky, we get to live a little 33 00:02:50,623 --> 00:02:51,946 bit longer than the next guy. 34 00:02:52,994 --> 00:02:56,721 Then we get to die. Very old and surrounded. 35 00:02:57,698 --> 00:03:00,841 By loved ones, people who care about us, people who... 36 00:03:02,038 --> 00:03:03,606 Make it all worth it. 37 00:03:05,026 --> 00:03:08,220 I think we all want that version. Of life. 38 00:03:09,303 --> 00:03:09,969 Ourselves. 39 00:03:11,234 --> 00:03:14,266 A feeling that it was a life well lived. 40 00:03:15,394 --> 00:03:19,182 And you can be at peace with the fact that It's all coming to an 41 00:03:19,223 --> 00:03:19,588 end now. 42 00:03:20,726 --> 00:03:23,705 And that's just part. Of the whole cycle. 43 00:03:25,250 --> 00:03:26,179 Those final moments. 44 00:03:27,318 --> 00:03:28,283 Maybe a little scary. 45 00:03:29,846 --> 00:03:31,146 Those closest to us will be... 46 00:03:32,246 --> 00:03:33,846 Sad that we're gone. 47 00:03:35,254 --> 00:03:35,964 But for me... 48 00:03:37,130 --> 00:03:39,068 If it all ends up the way I hope it does. 49 00:03:40,330 --> 00:03:41,117 It'll be a death. 50 00:03:42,135 --> 00:03:42,713 With dignity. 51 00:03:43,850 --> 00:03:48,313 And there will be some sort of positive form of closure. 52 00:03:49,878 --> 00:03:52,773 Because that's just the natural order of things. 53 00:03:53,814 --> 00:03:56,802 It's kind of strange to say it out loud, but... We all just 54 00:03:57,187 --> 00:04:00,237 expect. And old people will die. 55 00:04:01,442 --> 00:04:02,243 When it happens... 56 00:04:03,254 --> 00:04:05,741 Especially in a place like a retirement community, we... 57 00:04:06,774 --> 00:04:08,188 Don't really look at it too closely. 58 00:04:09,558 --> 00:04:13,877 And when it happened to 87-year-old Mary Brooks... 59 00:04:15,170 --> 00:04:16,117 It seemed at first... 60 00:04:17,123 --> 00:04:19,793 Just be like any other perfectly normal. 61 00:04:20,802 --> 00:04:22,093 Senior citizens' death. 62 00:04:22,882 --> 00:04:27,083 So my mother had been trying to reach my grandmother. And she 63 00:04:27,143 --> 00:04:30,167 wasn't answering. So then my mom had, who was living in 64 00:04:30,187 --> 00:04:33,452 California at the time, so she was far away. She asked for me 65 00:04:33,472 --> 00:04:35,074 to go in and check on my grandmother. 66 00:04:36,214 --> 00:04:40,530 Mary Brooks had purchased two condos in the same complex. Her 67 00:04:40,551 --> 00:04:44,339 grandson and his wife had moved into the second unit. And had 68 00:04:44,359 --> 00:04:47,086 maintained a warm and loving relationship with her. 69 00:04:48,278 --> 00:04:52,637 It was a mutually beneficial situation. The grandkids could 70 00:04:52,737 --> 00:04:57,075 save money on rent and enjoy home-cooked meals. And in 71 00:04:57,095 --> 00:05:01,766 exchange, the aging Mary had some family close by in case of 72 00:05:01,746 --> 00:05:02,508 an emergency. 73 00:05:03,294 --> 00:05:06,201 It was late at night, dark, so 10 p.m. 74 00:05:07,310 --> 00:05:11,453 I was very frustrated about it because I knew that she was fine 75 00:05:11,453 --> 00:05:15,070 and that this was breaking. Her number one rule, which was no 76 00:05:15,150 --> 00:05:19,179 surprise pop in. So I figured, you know, she had just turned 77 00:05:19,179 --> 00:05:21,986 her phone off because she didn't want to talk to anybody and she 78 00:05:22,026 --> 00:05:23,730 was just going to go to bed. 79 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:27,266 My mom and sister, of course, I went and did it. 80 00:05:28,366 --> 00:05:32,141 The gate to Mary Brooks' courtyard was open. Which was 81 00:05:32,261 --> 00:05:34,617 unusual given how late at night it was. 82 00:05:35,690 --> 00:05:38,808 Also strange was the fact that the glass storm door was 83 00:05:38,949 --> 00:05:43,101 slightly open. And the wooden front door behind it was also 84 00:05:43,523 --> 00:05:43,946 unlocked. 85 00:05:44,750 --> 00:05:49,414 So I, you know, opened as I'm knocking and the lights in the 86 00:05:49,414 --> 00:05:52,136 living room were off and my grandmother was laying on the 87 00:05:52,156 --> 00:05:53,718 floor just feet from the front door. 88 00:05:54,850 --> 00:05:58,010 Mary Brooks was laying on her side and facing the fireplace. 89 00:05:58,742 --> 00:06:00,649 As her grandson rushed to her aid. 90 00:06:01,602 --> 00:06:05,593 Roller over and I guess with that happened all of the air 91 00:06:05,613 --> 00:06:08,642 that's been built up in her lungs was released so it let out 92 00:06:08,642 --> 00:06:17,458 a very you know sour smell I thought it was a breath. I 93 00:06:17,478 --> 00:06:18,644 started to check for a pulse. 94 00:06:20,574 --> 00:06:24,103 Know put the phone on speakerphone and dialed 9-1-1 95 00:06:24,123 --> 00:06:27,130 and tried to resuscitate my grandmother. 96 00:06:28,270 --> 00:06:31,282 Police were called in to assist with a CPR in progress. 97 00:06:32,270 --> 00:06:35,939 The officers quickly arrived to discover the sobbing young man 98 00:06:35,999 --> 00:06:38,506 performing mouth-to-mouth on his own grandmother. 99 00:06:39,594 --> 00:06:42,966 Once they pulled him aside and calmed him down a bit, it was 100 00:06:43,046 --> 00:06:46,438 obvious that Mary Brooks was deceased. 101 00:06:47,726 --> 00:06:50,750 And the bedroom officers observed Mary Brooks' purse 102 00:06:50,810 --> 00:06:54,855 along with several Walmart bags, and a receipt showing the time 103 00:06:54,875 --> 00:06:57,058 and location of her recent shopping trip. 104 00:06:58,094 --> 00:07:02,109 In the kitchen, more Walmart bags filled with groceries. 105 00:07:03,286 --> 00:07:06,792 Several items like the blueberry waffles should have been in the 106 00:07:06,812 --> 00:07:11,153 freezer or fridge, but Instead, we're thawing on the counter. 107 00:07:12,430 --> 00:07:15,701 To the casual observer, it all looked like a typical death. 108 00:07:16,810 --> 00:07:20,360 Another elderly woman who unfortunately died before she 109 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,145 had a chance to put everything away. 110 00:07:23,598 --> 00:07:27,471 But when Mary Brooks' daughter arrived from California early 111 00:07:27,771 --> 00:07:31,065 that next morning, She immediately noticed something. 112 00:07:31,766 --> 00:07:32,370 Wasn't right. 113 00:07:32,953 --> 00:07:37,303 I was looking for the will and You know, I knew where she had 114 00:07:37,363 --> 00:07:37,888 kept it. 115 00:07:38,998 --> 00:07:42,641 She had a safe box at the bank. She had a fire safe in the 116 00:07:42,701 --> 00:07:47,244 house. And the little fire safe had the keys to the bank box in 117 00:07:47,224 --> 00:07:51,173 it because we put them in there recently. So I was looking for 118 00:07:51,194 --> 00:07:52,181 the fire safe. 119 00:07:53,251 --> 00:07:55,182 And I couldn't find it. 120 00:07:56,234 --> 00:08:00,565 My nieces pointed out that we hadn't seen any jewelry. And I 121 00:08:00,585 --> 00:08:02,751 wasn't really looking, because I was looking for something 122 00:08:02,831 --> 00:08:03,834 bigger. But they were like... 123 00:08:05,166 --> 00:08:06,953 There didn't seem to be any jewelry here. 124 00:08:08,194 --> 00:08:10,713 Mary's diamond earrings were missing. 125 00:08:11,734 --> 00:08:15,526 As were other meaningful family heirlooms, including a coral 126 00:08:15,606 --> 00:08:19,472 necklace purchased on a Hawaiian vacation. That was especially 127 00:08:19,613 --> 00:08:21,425 sentimental for the whole family. 128 00:08:22,798 --> 00:08:26,451 The coroner also informed the family that Mary had no jewelry 129 00:08:26,552 --> 00:08:28,238 on her at the time they took her. 130 00:08:29,367 --> 00:08:33,169 Not even her wedding ring. Which was extremely odd. 131 00:08:34,510 --> 00:08:37,938 The theft investigation was started, but There was 132 00:08:37,998 --> 00:08:42,484 absolutely nothing DNA or fingerprint related to suggest 133 00:08:42,584 --> 00:08:46,649 that Mary died at the hands of an intruder, or anybody else for 134 00:08:46,669 --> 00:08:47,130 that matter. 135 00:08:48,566 --> 00:08:53,682 It was in January of 2018, and nearly two months later, The 136 00:08:53,703 --> 00:08:56,314 case had gone just as cold as the weather. 137 00:08:57,858 --> 00:09:04,667 But on March 19th, 2018, in an entirely different retirement 138 00:09:04,707 --> 00:09:09,800 community. A different woman named Mary was attacked in her 139 00:09:09,860 --> 00:09:12,445 apartment unit. And left for dead. 140 00:09:13,986 --> 00:09:18,986 This was Mary Bartell. Whose testimony was presented as a 141 00:09:19,147 --> 00:09:20,713 previously recorded video. 142 00:09:21,614 --> 00:09:22,159 They say... 143 00:09:23,534 --> 00:09:26,661 Before you open the door and it 's, who is it? 144 00:09:29,309 --> 00:09:32,855 One of my neighbors, they were probably as dumb as me. 145 00:09:34,358 --> 00:09:36,302 And I would never know. 146 00:09:38,734 --> 00:09:39,546 Who was that? 147 00:09:41,262 --> 00:09:44,892 Mary Bartell's mourning was just like any other since the death 148 00:09:44,892 --> 00:09:45,574 of her husband. 149 00:09:46,606 --> 00:09:50,507 She attended morning mass at 6.30. Then came home to eat 150 00:09:50,547 --> 00:09:54,406 breakfast, read the paper, and chat with her sister-in-law. 151 00:09:55,726 --> 00:10:00,034 It was around 8.30 a.m. When she heard a very insistent knocking. 152 00:10:01,226 --> 00:10:03,952 Even with her hearing aids, she couldn't tell if the knocks were 153 00:10:03,972 --> 00:10:06,966 for her or her neighbor across the breezeway. 154 00:10:08,351 --> 00:10:12,246 When she opened the door, an African-American man with medium 155 00:10:12,326 --> 00:10:14,574 build was suddenly in her doorway. 156 00:10:15,871 --> 00:10:18,807 She did not get a good look at his face because her eyes were 157 00:10:18,908 --> 00:10:24,778 completely fixated. On the two gloved hands. Now reaching into 158 00:10:24,859 --> 00:10:25,623 her apartment. 159 00:10:26,663 --> 00:10:31,370 I know it's not what I want. I sold this to green rubber 160 00:10:31,410 --> 00:10:31,831 blends. 161 00:10:33,171 --> 00:10:35,878 Number one, I should not have opened the door. 162 00:10:37,299 --> 00:10:41,243 Number two, my life was in great danger. 163 00:10:42,419 --> 00:10:46,475 Mary attempted to close the door, but standing at 5'3 and 164 00:10:46,495 --> 00:10:50,933 weighing only 125 pounds, She was easily overwhelmed. 165 00:10:56,372 --> 00:10:56,768 Pardon me. 166 00:10:57,743 --> 00:11:02,274 And he said, don't fight me. Lie in the bed. 167 00:11:03,775 --> 00:11:09,745 So I did as he said because I knew I could not overpower him 168 00:11:09,905 --> 00:11:10,646 physically. 169 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,396 And of course, as soon as I... 170 00:11:15,905 --> 00:11:17,152 Way down in the practice. 171 00:11:18,387 --> 00:11:27,359 He just smashed a gun barrel over my face and my chest. 172 00:11:29,496 --> 00:11:31,232 I just couldn't breathe. 173 00:11:32,531 --> 00:11:37,150 Mary Bartell was being smothered to death. By her own bedroom 174 00:11:37,251 --> 00:11:37,594 pillow. 175 00:11:38,751 --> 00:11:41,026 The one she slept on every night. 176 00:11:42,611 --> 00:11:46,657 Shock and fear filled her mind as she struggled against the 177 00:11:46,697 --> 00:11:47,599 immense force. 178 00:11:48,648 --> 00:11:49,484 Weighing down on her. 179 00:11:50,339 --> 00:11:54,498 And I'll try to move this left hand. 180 00:11:56,536 --> 00:11:59,950 Under the pillow to go to my medical list button. 181 00:12:01,215 --> 00:12:05,479 The Medical Alert Button If only Mary could reach across her 182 00:12:05,579 --> 00:12:09,939 chest and press it. It would set off a blaring alarm and notify 183 00:12:09,999 --> 00:12:12,834 emergency services to come. And save her. 184 00:12:17,984 --> 00:12:23,416 I'm going to explain to you something that I can't do by 185 00:12:23,497 --> 00:12:27,746 chance. There is no way I can even move my hand. 186 00:12:28,723 --> 00:12:34,311 Towards the medical alert button. So anyway, after, I 187 00:12:34,331 --> 00:12:38,638 don't know, three minutes or however long, it seemed longer 188 00:12:38,678 --> 00:12:43,566 than that, of course, that he was just using all his weight 189 00:12:43,706 --> 00:12:43,826 to... 190 00:12:45,683 --> 00:12:51,006 ...keep me from breathing at all. I can't stand it. 191 00:12:52,167 --> 00:12:53,975 Mary Bartell passed out. 192 00:12:54,943 --> 00:12:56,906 But she probably should have died. 193 00:12:58,143 --> 00:13:01,532 But emergency alert necklaces aren't the only medical gear 194 00:13:01,613 --> 00:13:03,779 prescribed to many senior citizens. 195 00:13:04,883 --> 00:13:08,507 After a kidney surgery in 2014, Mary Bartell was having heart 196 00:13:08,547 --> 00:13:11,491 issues, so she had a pacemaker implanted. 197 00:13:12,775 --> 00:13:16,120 This small electrical device, in case you don't have any 198 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,083 grandparents, Zoomer. 199 00:13:19,183 --> 00:13:24,216 Is used to send a signal. That helps regulate heartbeats and 200 00:13:24,839 --> 00:13:29,897 saves lives. Which it did again as Mary's neighbor discovered 201 00:13:29,917 --> 00:13:32,571 her shortly after. Called 911. 202 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:37,058 When Mary regained consciousness, She was on a 203 00:13:37,098 --> 00:13:39,330 gurney and surrounded by EMTs. 204 00:13:40,507 --> 00:13:44,893 As she tried to recall as much as she could. She noticed her 205 00:13:45,053 --> 00:13:48,503 wedding and engagement rings were both missing from her hand. 206 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:53,073 She would later learn that more valuables were taken from her 207 00:13:53,133 --> 00:13:53,454 home. 208 00:13:54,823 --> 00:13:59,099 After an investigation into Mary 's attack started, It was 209 00:13:59,179 --> 00:14:02,564 quickly discovered that a report of suspicious activity had 210 00:14:02,744 --> 00:14:06,288 recently been filed with the management at the Preston Place 211 00:14:06,349 --> 00:14:08,231 Retirement Community where Mary lived. 212 00:14:09,587 --> 00:14:12,800 This large complex with a lifestyle center and swimming 213 00:14:12,860 --> 00:14:17,072 pool contained 15 apartment buildings with ample parking 214 00:14:17,112 --> 00:14:19,139 areas weaved throughout the property. 215 00:14:20,255 --> 00:14:23,720 So many families could put their trust in the promised security 216 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:29,032 of what seemed from the outside. To be an idyllic place to live 217 00:14:29,093 --> 00:14:30,035 out your retirement. 218 00:14:31,423 --> 00:14:34,288 But something rotten. Was lurking within. 219 00:14:35,463 --> 00:14:36,470 As it often does. 220 00:14:37,214 --> 00:14:39,066 My mother's name was Eleanor Plank. 221 00:14:40,115 --> 00:14:43,584 This is the gentleman who filed the suspicious activity report 222 00:14:43,645 --> 00:14:48,773 just four days before Mary Bartell was attacked. He visited 223 00:14:48,793 --> 00:14:52,386 his mother two or three times a week and On the morning of March 224 00:14:52,848 --> 00:14:55,156 15th, he was taking her to a doctor's appointment. 225 00:14:55,762 --> 00:14:58,623 When I picked her up at 10 o'clock, I noticed that there 226 00:14:58,643 --> 00:15:03,084 was a car and an individual in the parking lot near her 227 00:15:03,124 --> 00:15:07,086 apartment. And the individual was standing outside and just 228 00:15:07,386 --> 00:15:10,427 didn't appear to have anywhere to go. If you will, kind of like 229 00:15:10,507 --> 00:15:11,187 loitering. 230 00:15:12,447 --> 00:15:15,809 But I didn't take too much notice. I mean, I noticed that, 231 00:15:15,969 --> 00:15:19,910 but it's not uncommon to have caregivers there or therapists. 232 00:15:20,947 --> 00:15:24,765 After Eleanor's doctor's appointment, The two went out 233 00:15:24,785 --> 00:15:27,694 for lunch, returning around 12.30 p.m. 234 00:15:28,446 --> 00:15:32,428 When I came back, I noticed the same individual in the same car, 235 00:15:32,909 --> 00:15:37,351 and it was in the exact same place as a 10 o'clock. So that 236 00:15:37,431 --> 00:15:42,154 caught my attention. At that time, I took my mother upstairs, 237 00:15:42,154 --> 00:15:45,916 and we had to use the elevator, and she was with a walker. 238 00:15:46,377 --> 00:15:51,300 And since my curiosity and my suspicions were piqued, I kind 239 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:55,062 of instinctively went and looked out the window of the apartment. 240 00:15:55,586 --> 00:15:59,092 And then the car, the individual moved the car over to building 241 00:15:59,492 --> 00:16:04,680 nine and did not get out. And then my suspicions, I was really 242 00:16:04,781 --> 00:16:05,622 concerned then. 243 00:16:06,738 --> 00:16:10,171 Both Mary Bartell and this gentleman's mother, Eleanor, 244 00:16:10,874 --> 00:16:11,958 lived in Building 8. 245 00:16:13,062 --> 00:16:17,545 As you can imagine, Building 9 was right next door. So the car 246 00:16:17,625 --> 00:16:19,897 hadn't been reparked very far at all. 247 00:16:21,182 --> 00:16:23,566 Our citizen detective continues. 248 00:16:24,206 --> 00:16:27,912 So what I did is after I got my mother settled, I just walked 249 00:16:28,032 --> 00:16:33,340 out, walked down and approached the car and the individual. And 250 00:16:33,821 --> 00:16:38,086 at that point, noticed the make, model and color of the car. And 251 00:16:38,186 --> 00:16:41,368 then I asked the individual, could I be of assistance? 252 00:16:41,388 --> 00:16:44,410 And I don't know, the response was something similar, like I'm 253 00:16:44,450 --> 00:16:47,392 here to see my father or something. And I, to be honest, 254 00:16:47,432 --> 00:16:50,093 really wasn't all that interested. I had gotten my 255 00:16:50,153 --> 00:16:51,254 initial information. 256 00:16:52,202 --> 00:16:56,631 He was also able to get the individual's license plate. All 257 00:16:56,651 --> 00:16:58,798 of this information was now being gathered by the 258 00:16:58,839 --> 00:17:01,970 investigators looking into Mary Bartell's attack. 259 00:17:03,178 --> 00:17:05,997 While the license plate and vehicle were registered under a 260 00:17:06,037 --> 00:17:09,905 different name, It turns out the driver of the silver Nissan 261 00:17:09,966 --> 00:17:13,074 Altima had recently gotten into a car accident. 262 00:17:14,342 --> 00:17:19,341 Listed in the accident report was the name Billy Shamirmir. 263 00:17:20,178 --> 00:17:22,937 Along with his phone number and an address. 264 00:17:24,202 --> 00:17:28,568 Further investigating, revealed that Billy had an outstanding 265 00:17:28,669 --> 00:17:33,180 warrant stemming from a public intoxication arrest a couple 266 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:33,902 years prior. 267 00:17:35,198 --> 00:17:39,074 On March 21st, just two days after Mary Bartell's assault. 268 00:17:39,998 --> 00:17:43,622 Police were staked out and ready to arrest their lead suspect. 269 00:17:44,362 --> 00:17:46,634 Before he could harm another helpless senior citizen. 270 00:17:48,115 --> 00:17:48,727 Unfortunately. 271 00:17:49,866 --> 00:17:50,613 They were too late. 272 00:17:51,751 --> 00:17:54,014 Way, way, way too late. 273 00:17:55,326 --> 00:17:56,247 Billy Shamir Mir. 274 00:17:57,310 --> 00:17:59,281 Had been a very busy man. 275 00:18:00,618 --> 00:18:02,029 A very busy man indeed. 276 00:18:26,346 --> 00:18:30,991 Police were certain that a man named Billy Shamirmir had been 277 00:18:31,172 --> 00:18:34,400 the one who smothered the elderly Mary Bartell with her 278 00:18:34,540 --> 00:18:38,861 own pillow. And afterwards robbed her of valuable jewelry. 279 00:18:39,998 --> 00:18:42,946 He'd been reported a few days earlier for loitering around her 280 00:18:42,986 --> 00:18:45,594 building in a populated retirement community. 281 00:18:46,666 --> 00:18:49,809 A honeypot for criminals like this. 282 00:18:51,146 --> 00:18:55,346 But police correctly assume that He wasn't just standing around 283 00:18:55,346 --> 00:18:56,032 with nothing to do. 284 00:18:57,778 --> 00:18:59,873 This. Was a hunting ground. 285 00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:02,741 An easy one. At that. 286 00:19:03,911 --> 00:19:08,697 Especially for such a ruthless and immoral predator. 287 00:19:10,206 --> 00:19:14,995 On March 21, 2018, authorities were stationed at Billy Shamir 288 00:19:15,035 --> 00:19:18,984 Mir's apartment complex. Waiting for him to return home and park 289 00:19:19,284 --> 00:19:21,287 in his designated parking space. 290 00:19:21,907 --> 00:19:25,111 We had an apartment number and a parking space, so we're waiting 291 00:19:25,171 --> 00:19:28,014 for Mr. Shemir to return. 292 00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:32,816 Billy, of course, had no idea he was being watched. 293 00:19:33,417 --> 00:19:36,622 Sergeant Hughes observed a vehicle enter the parking lot 294 00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:40,590 and made us all aware that The driver. 295 00:19:41,650 --> 00:19:45,121 Matched Mr. Schmimmer's description, and it could be 296 00:19:45,161 --> 00:19:45,302 him. 297 00:19:46,570 --> 00:19:51,076 The car travels east past Sargent Hughes, and then 298 00:19:52,257 --> 00:19:53,599 Detective Claggett picks it up. 299 00:19:54,866 --> 00:19:57,226 Broadcast that's still hitting the East. 300 00:19:58,770 --> 00:20:01,753 I'm in the last parking spot and there's a dumpster enclosure. I 301 00:20:01,753 --> 00:20:05,636 backed in and then ultimately I ended up observing the vehicle 302 00:20:06,337 --> 00:20:07,138 drive in front of me. 303 00:20:08,158 --> 00:20:12,292 So it passes me by the stumps in front of the dumpster. It 304 00:20:12,292 --> 00:20:12,793 doesn't pull. 305 00:20:13,810 --> 00:20:17,336 All the way up to the dumpsters, partially in the parking lot, 306 00:20:17,437 --> 00:20:21,428 but partially in an area where, you know, you can stop. Get out, 307 00:20:21,910 --> 00:20:23,177 just dump trash or whatever. 308 00:20:24,294 --> 00:20:27,121 Rather than going directly to his parking space, Billy 309 00:20:27,481 --> 00:20:31,170 continued past it and instead pulled up alongside the 310 00:20:31,170 --> 00:20:32,814 apartment's dumpster area. 311 00:20:33,598 --> 00:20:36,888 He goes to the dumpster. I hear some noise, some banging on the 312 00:20:36,908 --> 00:20:40,158 dumpster. And then he returns to the car. 313 00:20:41,178 --> 00:20:44,220 Even though I can't see the full driver's side, I can see the 314 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,162 trunk clearly, and I can see the top of the roof on the passenger 315 00:20:48,222 --> 00:20:52,104 side. He walks around the rear of the vehicle to the rear 316 00:20:52,164 --> 00:20:55,266 passenger door. And at one point, I don't know if it was... 317 00:20:56,230 --> 00:21:00,538 Right then or just after at some point he looked at me as I go. 318 00:21:00,578 --> 00:21:04,826 This is this is Mr. Schumer that this is a guy we're looking for 319 00:21:05,467 --> 00:21:07,931 anyway. He opens the back door of the car. 320 00:21:10,138 --> 00:21:12,800 Reaches in pretty deeply. I mean, his whole head is in 321 00:21:12,820 --> 00:21:14,802 there. I can't see the top of his head anymore. And I hear 322 00:21:14,862 --> 00:21:18,626 some banging and stuff. And then he returned to the dumpster by 323 00:21:18,666 --> 00:21:21,388 way of the front of the car, walks out of my view. And then I 324 00:21:21,428 --> 00:21:23,250 hear some more banging at the dumpster. 325 00:21:24,442 --> 00:21:28,253 Eventually, Billy got back in his car and pulled into the spot 326 00:21:28,293 --> 00:21:31,141 where they were all expecting him to arrive to. 327 00:21:32,370 --> 00:21:36,464 They immediately converged on the vehicle to initiate an 328 00:21:36,464 --> 00:21:37,066 arrest. 329 00:21:37,926 --> 00:21:41,593 Yelling, we're the police. Flaggett's ordering him to get 330 00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:46,755 out of the car, but he's not complying. When I got to the 331 00:21:46,835 --> 00:21:49,897 passenger front window, I could see that he was holding a 332 00:21:49,917 --> 00:21:54,520 baggie, a clear plastic baggie, had a large stack of currency in 333 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,862 it, and some jewelry. 334 00:21:58,014 --> 00:22:02,666 The currency included somewhat unique $2 bills and a gold 335 00:22:02,746 --> 00:22:04,350 necklace with a woman's name on it. 336 00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:09,144 Billy seemed to be frozen in shock at being caught in this 337 00:22:09,365 --> 00:22:10,226 exact moment. 338 00:22:11,326 --> 00:22:14,447 He could barely get out of the car and onto the ground as they 339 00:22:14,547 --> 00:22:16,427 placed him under arrest. 340 00:22:17,048 --> 00:22:20,128 When I walked to the dumpster opening, I could see in plain 341 00:22:20,208 --> 00:22:27,531 view a very large red jewelry box. And it was pretty fancy. It 342 00:22:27,531 --> 00:22:32,352 had ornate Asian decorations on it and stuff. It was actually a 343 00:22:32,372 --> 00:22:37,433 pretty jewelry box. It had some kind of metallic copper color 344 00:22:38,234 --> 00:22:39,874 hinges and whatnot. So, yeah. 345 00:22:41,126 --> 00:22:44,527 That was laying in the dumpster on top of all the trash. There 346 00:22:44,567 --> 00:22:47,449 were two drawers missing from the jewelry box when we pulled 347 00:22:47,449 --> 00:22:50,950 it out. The dumpster was really, really full, and there were two 348 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:55,132 drawers on top of all the trash. That means what you would think 349 00:22:55,192 --> 00:22:57,013 would belong to the jewelry box itself. 350 00:22:58,073 --> 00:23:00,954 It was obvious that someone had rifled through the geisha 351 00:23:01,114 --> 00:23:05,096 pattern treasure chest, leaving behind the valueless cardboard 352 00:23:05,156 --> 00:23:09,318 boxes and several identifying documents, including an 353 00:23:09,438 --> 00:23:13,934 affidavit. And an ID card from Health and Welfare Services. 354 00:23:15,058 --> 00:23:19,875 This box and its contents belong to someone by the name of Lou T. 355 00:23:20,076 --> 00:23:20,517 Harris. 356 00:23:21,726 --> 00:23:25,391 Police quickly identified the correct address and, upon 357 00:23:25,451 --> 00:23:29,556 entering the premises from the back door, confirmed all of 358 00:23:29,576 --> 00:23:30,778 their worst fears. 359 00:23:31,931 --> 00:23:34,903 Lou T. Harris was already dead. 360 00:23:36,274 --> 00:23:39,789 This 81-year-old woman had lived through so much. 361 00:23:40,830 --> 00:23:45,226 A refugee of the Vietnam War who escaped on a helicopter. 362 00:23:46,206 --> 00:23:52,046 A mother of four, twice widowed. Who loved to send crisp $2 bills 363 00:23:52,107 --> 00:23:54,229 to family. And friends. 364 00:23:55,258 --> 00:23:57,638 Only to have her life suddenly snuffed out. 365 00:23:58,791 --> 00:23:59,304 In her own. 366 00:24:00,550 --> 00:24:03,712 Home, I'm sorry, I'm thinking about my grandma when I read 367 00:24:03,732 --> 00:24:03,954 that. 368 00:24:05,331 --> 00:24:07,179 God. Rest your soul. 369 00:24:08,606 --> 00:24:12,562 This woman's makeup was still intact. Except for the fact that 370 00:24:12,623 --> 00:24:15,637 her fuchsia-colored lipstick was smeared. 371 00:24:16,978 --> 00:24:21,086 Sure enough, her pillow was found nearby and the pillowcase 372 00:24:21,106 --> 00:24:24,814 was marked with a matching shade of lipstick stain. 373 00:24:26,066 --> 00:24:29,119 And perhaps an even more important piece of evidence was 374 00:24:29,139 --> 00:24:29,662 observed. 375 00:24:30,878 --> 00:24:31,872 A Walmart receipt. 376 00:24:32,926 --> 00:24:35,587 Timestamped. The previous afternoon. 377 00:24:37,018 --> 00:24:41,074 Again, I'd love to make a t-shirt. For Walmart, but they'd 378 00:24:41,175 --> 00:24:41,985 sue me immediately. 379 00:24:43,282 --> 00:24:47,484 Since it is the most convenient one-stop shop. For murderers. 380 00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:52,546 A review of the Walmart security footage from the previous day, 381 00:24:52,646 --> 00:24:57,183 March 20th. Would seem perfectly normal to the unaware eye. 382 00:24:58,340 --> 00:25:03,192 But it is utterly chilling when you know how the story ends. 383 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,757 Lou T. Harris looks like any other senior citizen. Pushing 384 00:25:08,777 --> 00:25:10,103 her cart through the aisles. 385 00:25:11,204 --> 00:25:14,792 Past the various sale baskets set up throughout the Walmart. 386 00:25:15,888 --> 00:25:17,926 You might even consider picturing yourself doing the 387 00:25:17,967 --> 00:25:23,204 same thing. Completely unaware. That someone is not just 388 00:25:23,264 --> 00:25:24,028 watching you, but... 389 00:25:25,061 --> 00:25:25,594 Following you. 390 00:25:26,692 --> 00:25:29,727 And far enough away that you don't have the slightest clue. 391 00:25:30,672 --> 00:25:31,333 That it's happening. 392 00:25:32,804 --> 00:25:37,151 Billy Shamir Mir also looks like any other shopper as he enters 393 00:25:37,191 --> 00:25:37,752 the Walmart. 394 00:25:38,764 --> 00:25:42,291 Only he's keeping a casual eye on the progress of one 395 00:25:42,412 --> 00:25:44,476 particular elderly woman. 396 00:25:45,584 --> 00:25:48,503 When she finally goes to check out, he initially stands right 397 00:25:48,584 --> 00:25:51,528 behind her. To be next in line. 398 00:25:52,696 --> 00:25:56,407 Then he quietly backs off and enters another aisle over. 399 00:25:57,572 --> 00:26:00,777 Before checking out with his own meaningless items, he takes a 400 00:26:00,797 --> 00:26:04,904 few steps back and peers into Lutie Harris' aisle again. 401 00:26:06,020 --> 00:26:07,391 To make sure his victim. 402 00:26:08,516 --> 00:26:09,343 Is within reach. 403 00:26:10,672 --> 00:26:13,064 She's taking a lot longer to check out than he expected. 404 00:26:14,116 --> 00:26:15,484 These fucking old people, right? 405 00:26:16,592 --> 00:26:20,965 So he hangs out for a bit. Counting his cash, taking a sip 406 00:26:21,046 --> 00:26:22,172 from the water fountain. 407 00:26:23,296 --> 00:26:25,567 All while circling her general area. 408 00:26:26,776 --> 00:26:30,408 As he finishes up, he actually gets a few paces ahead of her. 409 00:26:31,408 --> 00:26:34,654 In other words, she's still being followed, but... Not from 410 00:26:34,694 --> 00:26:35,206 behind. 411 00:26:36,484 --> 00:26:39,452 Billy peers behind himself a couple of times before he gets 412 00:26:39,653 --> 00:26:43,226 into his car and Outdoor security cameras capture the 413 00:26:43,266 --> 00:26:46,711 vehicle as it leaves the parking lot at the same time as Luti 414 00:26:46,811 --> 00:26:47,732 Harris does. 415 00:26:49,152 --> 00:26:52,238 And while we're at it, the notion of a Walmart receipt 416 00:26:52,318 --> 00:26:56,130 found at the home of a recently deceased elderly woman. Should 417 00:26:56,191 --> 00:26:57,703 start to sound familiar to you. 418 00:26:58,864 --> 00:27:01,550 We open today's episode discussing the mysterious death 419 00:27:01,610 --> 00:27:06,481 of Mary Brooks. Her grandson was too late in performing CPR, and 420 00:27:06,781 --> 00:27:09,285 grocery items, including blueberry waffles, were found 421 00:27:09,365 --> 00:27:13,880 thawing on her kitchen counter. Grocery items. From Walmart. 422 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:16,315 And I hope you're sitting down. 423 00:27:17,444 --> 00:27:20,471 This is the same Walmart that Lou T. Harris had been shopping 424 00:27:20,511 --> 00:27:23,000 at, but I'm sure you probably pieced that together already. 425 00:27:25,296 --> 00:27:29,309 A review of those same Walmart cameras from two months earlier, 426 00:27:29,369 --> 00:27:34,004 January 30th. Tell an equally convincing story of prey-like 427 00:27:34,105 --> 00:27:36,126 stalking. In the shadows. 428 00:27:37,232 --> 00:27:40,488 Simply by looking down the various parking lot aisles, you 429 00:27:40,468 --> 00:27:45,239 can see Billy Shamirmir. Back up his car into a parking spot that 430 00:27:45,260 --> 00:27:48,524 has a perfect view of the handicapped spaces. 431 00:27:50,925 --> 00:27:52,367 About a predator. 432 00:27:53,744 --> 00:27:57,231 At one point, he gets out and helps a little old lady loosen a 433 00:27:57,271 --> 00:27:57,892 shopping cart. 434 00:27:59,161 --> 00:28:00,114 Oh, what a nice man. 435 00:28:01,232 --> 00:28:04,517 He even wipes it down for smiling and... Patting her on 436 00:28:04,497 --> 00:28:07,464 the shoulders like an oddly charming middle-aged man. 437 00:28:08,624 --> 00:28:10,843 A good stand-up citizen. 438 00:28:12,184 --> 00:28:15,914 Later, he buys an orange and a Lunchable. And he sits in his 439 00:28:15,954 --> 00:28:20,068 car for what seems like an hour. Moving the vehicle around to 440 00:28:20,088 --> 00:28:21,799 various spots in the same lot. 441 00:28:22,776 --> 00:28:27,030 Until at one point he's parked right next door to poor old Mary 442 00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:27,491 Brooks. 443 00:28:28,688 --> 00:28:32,980 He watches as she loads up her groceries. And his car slowly 444 00:28:33,141 --> 00:28:36,024 wades behind her. Like a silver shark. 445 00:28:37,104 --> 00:28:38,866 Until they're both out of frame. 446 00:28:40,248 --> 00:28:44,426 Mary Brooks and Lou T. Harris died two months apart. And in 447 00:28:44,628 --> 00:28:45,939 the exact same manner. 448 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,412 They were smothered by their own pillows, and their jewelry was 449 00:28:50,512 --> 00:28:52,700 taken immediately following the attack. 450 00:28:53,828 --> 00:28:57,193 It happened to a third woman as well, Mary Bartell. Who 451 00:28:57,213 --> 00:29:00,348 miraculously survived because of her pacemaker. 452 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,935 And as it became clear that all three of these cases were 453 00:29:04,975 --> 00:29:10,592 related to one another, A fourth case suddenly came. Into focus. 454 00:29:11,316 --> 00:29:13,127 We can then sort of move closer to us. 455 00:29:14,232 --> 00:29:18,870 Because of her age, and she lived in a big house. So it was 456 00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:20,095 time for her to downsize. 457 00:29:21,272 --> 00:29:24,274 This is the daughter of Martha Williams. 458 00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:34,616 Find out why my mom had not confirmed her appointment. 459 00:29:35,684 --> 00:29:39,885 So I think I texted her Tuesday evening. I don't think I called 460 00:29:39,905 --> 00:29:42,866 her, but it was kind of late. I really wasn't concerned at that 461 00:29:42,927 --> 00:29:47,228 point. The next morning I go to work, the hairdresser shot me 462 00:29:47,268 --> 00:29:51,750 another text message, and I was in the car on my way to check on 463 00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:52,810 her at that point. 464 00:29:54,004 --> 00:29:58,350 When she arrived on Wednesday, March 7th, she noticed newspaper 465 00:29:58,430 --> 00:30:02,120 was still on the front porch. Which was odd considering it was 466 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,248 her mother's daily routine to read the paper. 467 00:30:06,384 --> 00:30:09,170 Upon seeing her mother's lifeless body inside the home, 468 00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:12,727 she called 911. And began reaching out to family members. 469 00:30:13,716 --> 00:30:16,733 It was clear that Martha had actually been dead for several 470 00:30:16,793 --> 00:30:20,389 days. Confirming by the remaining anti-seizure 471 00:30:20,429 --> 00:30:24,622 medication kept in her daily pill organizer. The kind I 472 00:30:24,622 --> 00:30:27,015 should probably go buy. From Amazon. 473 00:30:28,392 --> 00:30:32,838 These were pills she certainly would have needed to take if she 474 00:30:32,879 --> 00:30:33,900 was still alive. 475 00:30:34,561 --> 00:30:39,027 I noticed her wedding ring was gone before they took her away. 476 00:30:40,336 --> 00:30:44,009 After an autopsy was performed, Martha Williams' death was 477 00:30:44,069 --> 00:30:47,843 reported as having occurred. By natural causes. 478 00:30:49,064 --> 00:30:52,224 But in a story that should be starting to sound painfully 479 00:30:52,284 --> 00:30:56,232 familiar. Martha's surviving family members started to find 480 00:30:56,293 --> 00:30:56,655 certain... 481 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,044 Unnatural circumstances. Upon closer inspection of her home, 482 00:31:04,820 --> 00:31:05,781 in the days that followed. 483 00:31:06,421 --> 00:31:10,223 I think one of the things that alarmed us too, she had a drawer 484 00:31:10,263 --> 00:31:15,186 in a highboy dresser with her jewelry, and when we opened that 485 00:31:15,206 --> 00:31:20,249 up, many missing items, lots of open, like some of the jewelry 486 00:31:20,289 --> 00:31:21,109 boxes were open. 487 00:31:22,170 --> 00:31:25,352 She was missing some significant pieces that she had recently 488 00:31:25,412 --> 00:31:25,832 bought. 489 00:31:27,068 --> 00:31:31,707 And on March 20th, the same day, Billy killed Lou T. Harris. 490 00:31:32,648 --> 00:31:35,871 Martha's family made an especially disturbing discovery. 491 00:31:36,611 --> 00:31:40,975 My sister went in. She had a feeling about it, so she went to 492 00:31:40,955 --> 00:31:45,559 the bed and started to pull the pillows off, sheets off, just to 493 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:49,502 see if there maybe was anything in there. I'm not really sure, 494 00:31:49,562 --> 00:31:52,884 but she found this pillow, and she comes in with it. I'm in 495 00:31:52,925 --> 00:31:55,767 another room, and she comes in with it, and she's just, like, 496 00:31:56,127 --> 00:31:57,128 frozen, you know. 497 00:31:58,749 --> 00:32:01,592 And then we look at the pillow, and it has... 498 00:32:02,628 --> 00:32:06,383 Impression it had a facial impression and a little blood 499 00:32:07,316 --> 00:32:09,083 I've got a big down nose and don't touch it. 500 00:32:10,384 --> 00:32:14,700 Now, a second autopsy was being performed on Martha Williams. 501 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,100 Only this time it was ruled a homicide. 502 00:32:19,112 --> 00:32:23,357 Billy Shamir-Mirror could not be excluded from DNA that was 503 00:32:23,417 --> 00:32:25,880 sampled from under Martha's fingernails. 504 00:32:26,932 --> 00:32:29,842 He also could not be excluded from DNA taken from her 505 00:32:30,023 --> 00:32:31,468 blood-stained pillowcase. 506 00:32:32,596 --> 00:32:35,680 A year later, Martha's connection to these other cases 507 00:32:35,740 --> 00:32:39,224 would be solidified when Billy Shamir Mir's impounded vehicle. 508 00:32:39,976 --> 00:32:41,344 Was finally investigated. 509 00:32:42,512 --> 00:32:46,526 Among the many items found were some of Martha's missing family 510 00:32:46,586 --> 00:32:52,180 heirlooms. As well as two rubber gloves. Also contained her DNA. 511 00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:57,919 The prosecution. Would ultimately refer to these four 512 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:03,116 women as sisters. Tragically connected to one another. By 513 00:33:03,136 --> 00:33:05,804 their unfortunate encounters with Billy Shamirmere. 514 00:33:07,144 --> 00:33:11,116 In order to fully comprehend the death of Mary Brooks in January 515 00:33:11,537 --> 00:33:16,201 of 2018, You also have to understand what happened to Mary 516 00:33:16,302 --> 00:33:21,515 Bartell, Luti Harris. And Martha Williams during the month of 517 00:33:21,595 --> 00:33:21,979 March. 518 00:33:23,380 --> 00:33:27,270 While cell phone towers tracked Billy's every move on those four 519 00:33:27,390 --> 00:33:32,195 horrifying days in question. And more security cameras captured 520 00:33:32,195 --> 00:33:37,466 him smiling as he sold stolen jewelry to the local diamond and 521 00:33:37,546 --> 00:33:38,368 gold exchange. 522 00:33:39,336 --> 00:33:41,448 Sometimes within hours of acquiring it. 523 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,980 Billy maintained. Is innocence. 524 00:33:46,268 --> 00:33:48,710 And as we all know, here in America... 525 00:33:49,736 --> 00:33:52,362 You are innocent. In the eyes of the law. 526 00:33:53,425 --> 00:33:54,478 Until proven guilty. 527 00:33:56,104 --> 00:33:57,531 But proving that guilt... 528 00:33:58,612 --> 00:34:00,110 Would be more challenging. 529 00:34:01,396 --> 00:34:02,728 Than anyone could expect. 530 00:34:31,316 --> 00:34:35,212 Billy Chimirmere was brought to trial in November of 21. 531 00:34:36,212 --> 00:34:39,000 He was charged, among other things, with the murder of 532 00:34:39,442 --> 00:34:41,307 81-year-old Lou T. Harris. 533 00:34:42,376 --> 00:34:46,109 Police had come across Lou's already deceased body laying 534 00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:47,916 between her bed and a dresser. 535 00:34:48,980 --> 00:34:52,138 There were no signs of strangulation, only what is 536 00:34:52,178 --> 00:34:58,031 called Petechial hemorrhaging. Or small blood vessels that have 537 00:34:58,071 --> 00:34:58,493 burst. 538 00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:02,791 This can be caused by smothering. But it can also be 539 00:35:02,832 --> 00:35:07,372 caused by a strong sneeze. Certainly, any number of natural 540 00:35:07,472 --> 00:35:10,106 deaths could lead to such a state. 541 00:35:11,238 --> 00:35:16,043 But this was not a natural death. Police didn't just kick 542 00:35:16,063 --> 00:35:18,494 in Lou's back patio door on a whim. 543 00:35:19,526 --> 00:35:22,973 They saw Billy Shamiramir dumping her personalized 544 00:35:22,993 --> 00:35:25,238 belongings with their own eyes. 545 00:35:26,222 --> 00:35:29,702 And among the many things retrieved from Billy at the time 546 00:35:29,722 --> 00:35:34,192 of his arrest, The cup holder of his rental car contained the 547 00:35:34,252 --> 00:35:35,898 keys to Lou's home. 548 00:35:37,082 --> 00:35:40,676 Killing her and taking her valuables, apparently. Wasn't 549 00:35:40,696 --> 00:35:41,084 enough. 550 00:35:42,054 --> 00:35:46,715 He had the audacity to keep her keys, suggesting he might return 551 00:35:46,835 --> 00:35:48,985 one day and... Take even more. 552 00:35:50,086 --> 00:35:54,533 You would think this was an open and shut case. And indeed, the 553 00:35:54,573 --> 00:35:56,481 trial only took four days. 554 00:35:57,507 --> 00:36:02,444 But on the final day. There was an unexpected turn of events. 555 00:36:03,144 --> 00:36:06,607 This all came down to one juror. Throughout the day, the jury 556 00:36:06,707 --> 00:36:10,429 sent back multiple notes saying she refused to deliberate. They 557 00:36:10,429 --> 00:36:14,813 were hopelessly deadlocked and nothing was changing, ultimately 558 00:36:14,933 --> 00:36:16,594 leading to today's outcome. 559 00:36:17,614 --> 00:36:20,890 It's one thing to have the story laid out in a true crime 560 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:25,532 podcast, but... Convincing an independent jury is an entirely 561 00:36:25,612 --> 00:36:30,268 different matter. Especially in the fine state of Texas, where 562 00:36:30,288 --> 00:36:33,920 the jury must be unanimous in matters of felony criminal 563 00:36:33,980 --> 00:36:34,442 cases. 564 00:36:35,462 --> 00:36:39,718 In this particular case, the decision was 11 to 1. 565 00:36:40,838 --> 00:36:44,161 A mistrial was declared due to a hung jury. 566 00:36:45,542 --> 00:36:49,594 When we use the phrase justice is blind, It's because we expect 567 00:36:49,614 --> 00:36:51,521 the people judging the case to be... 568 00:36:52,547 --> 00:36:57,320 Unbiased. To absorb the facts of the case and make a wise 569 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,390 decision without the influence of the outside world. 570 00:37:01,626 --> 00:37:07,046 But as time goes on. The world seems to get more complicated. 571 00:37:07,886 --> 00:37:11,636 And being truly unbiased is quite, frankly, extremely hard 572 00:37:11,636 --> 00:37:13,828 to come by if not. Impossible. 573 00:37:15,046 --> 00:37:19,959 We will, likely, never know why this one person could not be 574 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,485 swayed. 575 00:37:21,734 --> 00:37:25,602 We have a pretty good idea just by looking around the world 576 00:37:26,243 --> 00:37:29,918 through social media, but We don't really, really, really 577 00:37:29,979 --> 00:37:30,161 know. 578 00:37:31,302 --> 00:37:34,512 But as the surviving members answered questions to the press 579 00:37:34,652 --> 00:37:36,318 just outside the courthouse. 580 00:37:37,402 --> 00:37:40,943 You could feel. The devastation that all of them are 581 00:37:40,943 --> 00:37:41,606 experiencing. 582 00:37:45,582 --> 00:37:52,310 If you could say something to that one juror, what would you 583 00:37:52,290 --> 00:37:53,451 guys want to say to that one person? No comment. Yeah, that 584 00:37:53,451 --> 00:37:54,413 would be not... I don't think we can say. 585 00:37:55,454 --> 00:37:59,058 Yeah, we're not going to address the one juror. We are just 586 00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:02,002 disappointed that they could not come to. 587 00:38:03,366 --> 00:38:06,396 The correct and like obvious. 588 00:38:07,406 --> 00:38:10,669 Fair to say he was angry? Well, I'm a little upset. Yeah, I 589 00:38:10,669 --> 00:38:15,533 would say I'm very upset that, you know, they presented a 590 00:38:15,593 --> 00:38:19,616 really great case. And the one that abstained, that voted, 591 00:38:20,257 --> 00:38:23,600 didn't vote yes, they didn't even go back and look. 592 00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:27,743 It had any questions, didn't have anything to go back and 593 00:38:27,823 --> 00:38:32,307 anything to ask about the trial, just stayed at no. Why do you do 594 00:38:32,447 --> 00:38:36,323 that? I mean, you must have some reason for not. You know, for 595 00:38:36,644 --> 00:38:39,570 having voting the way that you did on this, this jury. 596 00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:44,076 All of them were rightly sickened at the prospect of 597 00:38:44,156 --> 00:38:47,402 having to hear the facts of the death of their loved ones. 598 00:38:48,579 --> 00:38:50,273 All over again. 599 00:38:51,622 --> 00:38:56,595 Just because one stubborn person who had their mind made up and 600 00:38:56,615 --> 00:38:59,668 refused to have a logical conversation when confronted 601 00:38:59,688 --> 00:39:03,454 with straight-up facts. Somebody that just wanted to ignore the 602 00:39:03,534 --> 00:39:06,910 law and call it as they saw fit. 603 00:39:07,982 --> 00:39:12,439 Someone who really, really looks at skin color deeply. Before 604 00:39:12,459 --> 00:39:16,390 making a decision about character. Rather than Maybe 605 00:39:16,452 --> 00:39:18,740 looking at character. By itself. 606 00:39:20,122 --> 00:39:20,365 And so... 607 00:39:21,702 --> 00:39:26,645 A second trial for Billy Shamir Mir was set for April of 2022. 608 00:39:27,974 --> 00:39:31,796 Thankfully. This time he was successfully convicted for 609 00:39:31,877 --> 00:39:35,941 murdering Lou T. Harris and sentenced to life in prison 610 00:39:36,601 --> 00:39:37,362 without parole. 611 00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:41,740 The Dallas District Attorney then explained that they would 612 00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:43,565 not be seeking the death penalty. 613 00:39:44,869 --> 00:39:45,424 Reasons. 614 00:39:46,598 --> 00:39:50,004 Quite frankly, the reason was... Of how much time they'd already 615 00:39:50,085 --> 00:39:54,205 wasted on appeals and how much it actually costs. To kill 616 00:39:54,286 --> 00:39:54,629 someone. 617 00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:56,668 I mean legally. 618 00:39:57,926 --> 00:39:58,447 It's not cheap. 619 00:39:59,462 --> 00:39:59,975 It's not cheap at. 620 00:40:00,930 --> 00:40:02,783 It's a little cheaper than housing them for the rest of 621 00:40:02,763 --> 00:40:04,214 their life, but just a little bit. 622 00:40:05,410 --> 00:40:08,504 And also, you know, depends on how old they are. And how much 623 00:40:08,885 --> 00:40:11,513 delicious prison food they'll consume for the rest of their 624 00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:11,834 lives. 625 00:40:12,882 --> 00:40:15,833 Also inflation and a bunch of other factors, but you get the 626 00:40:15,833 --> 00:40:16,054 point. 627 00:40:17,118 --> 00:40:22,596 Instead, the strategy was to have Billy tried For the first 628 00:40:22,657 --> 00:40:24,605 murder, in this sequence. 629 00:40:25,878 --> 00:40:28,773 First, the murder of Mary Brooks. 630 00:40:30,082 --> 00:40:34,114 A victory in this additional trial would mean a second 631 00:40:34,154 --> 00:40:37,772 capital murder conviction. Ensuring that Billy would never 632 00:40:37,992 --> 00:40:40,622 see the light of day outside of prison. 633 00:40:41,836 --> 00:40:44,529 Another Bite at the apple, as they say. 634 00:40:45,802 --> 00:40:49,574 What happens when you kill multiple people? You do get 635 00:40:49,634 --> 00:40:53,170 multiple chances at a not guilty, but, you know. Your luck 636 00:40:53,170 --> 00:40:54,273 's running out fast. 637 00:40:55,606 --> 00:40:58,218 You've heard several of the testimonies presented at that 638 00:40:58,298 --> 00:41:02,390 trial throughout this episode. And it should come as somewhat 639 00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:06,161 of a relief that Billy Shamiramir was unanimously found 640 00:41:06,201 --> 00:41:09,210 guilty of Mary Brooks' murder as well. 641 00:41:10,306 --> 00:41:15,192 And thus sentenced to a second life term in prison without the 642 00:41:15,232 --> 00:41:17,154 possibility of parole. 643 00:41:18,306 --> 00:41:21,722 The Dallas County District Attorney explains further. We're 644 00:41:21,722 --> 00:41:25,642 just happy that these cases are over with, as promised. We were 645 00:41:25,642 --> 00:41:27,666 going to try him twice, get two convictions. Actually, we're 646 00:41:27,666 --> 00:41:29,589 going to try him as many times as necessary to get two 647 00:41:29,629 --> 00:41:33,835 convictions. And I've been asked why, because we never know if a 648 00:41:33,855 --> 00:41:35,758 case will be reversed on appeal, just like Mr. 649 00:41:35,799 --> 00:41:40,431 Halperin's case 20-something years later. And this case will 650 00:41:40,471 --> 00:41:43,539 take a different trajectory on appeal instead of going from 651 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:47,768 here to Austin to. Washington, etc. This case goes across the 652 00:41:47,808 --> 00:41:52,216 street to the Court of Appeals and maybe to Austin. And so the 653 00:41:52,977 --> 00:41:57,765 appellate timeline is much more succinct and much more likely to 654 00:41:57,805 --> 00:42:00,029 result in it being affirmed. 655 00:42:01,558 --> 00:42:06,645 Mr. Shamir Mir will die in the penitentiary. And that was my 656 00:42:06,705 --> 00:42:10,179 goal. I stated it. And I said, we're going to do this twice to 657 00:42:10,219 --> 00:42:12,010 accomplish it. And here we are. 658 00:42:13,154 --> 00:42:17,256 But unfortunately... There is more tragedy to this story than 659 00:42:17,316 --> 00:42:18,762 we've revealed up to this point. 660 00:42:19,842 --> 00:42:24,272 This didn't just happen to Mary Brooks, Mary Bartell, Lou T. 661 00:42:24,433 --> 00:42:26,598 Harris, and Martha Williams. 662 00:42:27,798 --> 00:42:32,480 Billy Shamir Mirror. Has been indicted for murdering 22. 663 00:42:33,439 --> 00:42:34,115 Elderly women. 664 00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:38,358 And those are just the cases that we know about. 665 00:42:39,382 --> 00:42:43,331 Cases where family members cared enough to sense something. Was 666 00:42:43,412 --> 00:42:46,954 wrong and continued pushing until the truth came out. 667 00:42:48,074 --> 00:42:51,220 Representatives from many of these families spoke during 668 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,332 impact statements. All the while staring down the completely 669 00:42:55,472 --> 00:42:59,907 emotionless Billy Shamir mirror. As large photographs of their 670 00:42:59,987 --> 00:43:02,771 loved ones filled. The empty chairs. 671 00:43:03,412 --> 00:43:06,997 You first entered her apartment on a Wednesday morning claiming 672 00:43:06,997 --> 00:43:07,818 to look for a leak. 673 00:43:09,282 --> 00:43:11,818 She realized that afternoon that you had taken her necklace that 674 00:43:11,899 --> 00:43:12,120 day. 675 00:43:13,218 --> 00:43:16,585 It wasn't enough for you, so you came back two days later, and 676 00:43:16,585 --> 00:43:18,770 you smothered her to death and took the rest of her jewelry. 677 00:43:19,692 --> 00:43:22,298 The eternal flames of hell are too good for you, Jemimere. 678 00:43:23,458 --> 00:43:27,202 The pain and suffering of those victims and their families means 679 00:43:27,342 --> 00:43:28,123 nothing to him. 680 00:43:29,184 --> 00:43:31,826 He looks like a puppy that's been scolded for soiling the 681 00:43:31,846 --> 00:43:35,550 carpet and doesn't understand what people are mad about. 682 00:43:37,398 --> 00:43:42,199 He is nothing but a gentle. A hyena. A vulture that has 683 00:43:42,259 --> 00:43:46,192 learned to walk on two legs. He 's a pretend man, not a real 684 00:43:46,253 --> 00:43:46,493 man. 685 00:43:47,802 --> 00:43:51,927 Like them, he is a coward, preying on the weakest members 686 00:43:51,947 --> 00:43:56,613 of our society. You will now be caged like the vicious, cowardly 687 00:43:56,773 --> 00:43:57,574 animal you are. 688 00:43:58,978 --> 00:44:01,136 I would spit on it, but my saliva would be. 689 00:44:02,579 --> 00:44:03,838 Insulted by touching it. 690 00:44:05,078 --> 00:44:08,860 This is not the first time we met Philly. Do you remember? 691 00:44:09,205 --> 00:44:12,508 Probably not. We shared an elevator at Tradition 692 00:44:12,569 --> 00:44:17,870 Prestonwood one late afternoon in 2016. I walked in. You're 693 00:44:17,870 --> 00:44:21,556 just standing there. Not a button is pressed and you 694 00:44:21,556 --> 00:44:25,141 wouldn't look up. I immediately knew something was up. What is 695 00:44:25,181 --> 00:44:28,026 wrong with this man? What is he doing in this building? 696 00:44:29,098 --> 00:44:31,052 I knew evil was surrounding me. 697 00:44:32,638 --> 00:44:33,765 Rot in hell, you piece of shit. 698 00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:40,297 On October 8, 2016, you terrorized, smothered, and 699 00:44:40,397 --> 00:44:41,338 murdered my mother. 700 00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:48,597 I often wonder. Did you watch the Texas OU game that was on 701 00:44:48,617 --> 00:44:50,845 her TV while you smothered her? 702 00:44:52,898 --> 00:44:56,871 I know she was watching that game as she had told me exactly 703 00:44:56,911 --> 00:44:58,717 what she was going to do that afternoon. 704 00:45:00,426 --> 00:45:03,274 I also know that you stayed in the room well over an hour. 705 00:45:05,334 --> 00:45:06,961 I pray she did not suffer long. 706 00:45:08,886 --> 00:45:12,154 The game was something my mom, Norma, and our whole family 707 00:45:12,214 --> 00:45:15,763 looked forward to every year. We had so many great memories built 708 00:45:15,864 --> 00:45:16,626 around that game. 709 00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:19,032 The game is forever ruined. 710 00:45:20,074 --> 00:45:20,954 Because of your evil. 711 00:45:22,726 --> 00:45:26,927 So many lives, so many memories are forever destroyed because of 712 00:45:26,927 --> 00:45:27,449 your greed. 713 00:45:28,488 --> 00:45:31,243 Although... You're the actual murderer. 714 00:45:32,518 --> 00:45:35,702 Sadly, you are not the only evil in this picture. 715 00:45:36,984 --> 00:45:40,648 I also hold the tradition Prestonwood, its owner Jonathan 716 00:45:40,708 --> 00:45:45,959 Perlman, and its employees, including Rachel Nelson. Jeff 717 00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:49,521 Wells, Ed Sanchez, Mary Will. 718 00:45:50,858 --> 00:45:52,152 As equally as countable. 719 00:45:54,070 --> 00:45:57,995 I can only imagine you lurking in halls and thinking, how 720 00:45:58,215 --> 00:46:01,380 foolish are these negligent people that they are not 721 00:46:01,420 --> 00:46:02,982 recording and reporting me. 722 00:46:04,190 --> 00:46:07,860 As I have trespassed in this building over a hundred times. 723 00:46:10,010 --> 00:46:13,017 So many lives could have been saved had the tradition 724 00:46:13,077 --> 00:46:18,169 Prestonwood management not put profit and pride over 725 00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:20,454 cooperation with the authorities. 726 00:46:22,142 --> 00:46:27,426 Nine murders. In that complex alone, as far as we know. 727 00:46:28,438 --> 00:46:32,430 In 2016, three women at the Edgemere complex were killed. 728 00:46:33,226 --> 00:46:36,071 Followed by eight more victims within three and a half months 729 00:46:36,832 --> 00:46:40,378 at the traditional Prestonwood Senior Living facility. 730 00:46:41,558 --> 00:46:45,311 A year later, another woman was killed at a place called the 731 00:46:45,372 --> 00:46:48,781 Parkview. No relation to the TV show, by the way. 732 00:46:49,782 --> 00:46:54,311 And another knocked from her walker. While Billy used a 733 00:46:54,351 --> 00:46:54,733 pillow. 734 00:46:55,734 --> 00:46:57,181 To muffle her screams. 735 00:46:58,550 --> 00:47:01,755 2018 included the four interlinked stories we've been 736 00:47:01,836 --> 00:47:06,363 focusing on in today's episode, but in truth, seven different 737 00:47:06,423 --> 00:47:10,350 victims from that year were living in the same facility. 738 00:47:11,146 --> 00:47:13,989 Called Preston Place Retirement Community. 739 00:47:15,254 --> 00:47:19,096 An attorney explains why there are forthcoming civil suits. 740 00:47:19,736 --> 00:47:22,357 Pressed in place, put on the facade of being a safe and 741 00:47:22,357 --> 00:47:25,359 secure senior living environment. They reported to be 742 00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:28,660 a gated retirement community. They even posted signs that 743 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,702 there was 24-hour surveillance over security cameras. 744 00:47:33,542 --> 00:47:37,424 There was rampant criminal activity, and that was reported. 745 00:47:37,985 --> 00:47:39,345 And not just any criminal activity. 746 00:47:39,505 --> 00:47:43,938 This particular person. Was reported to be on premises and 747 00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:49,599 have to not have done anything about them in the face of actual 748 00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:51,906 knowledge of this specific person is unacceptable. 749 00:47:52,958 --> 00:47:56,781 And so another thing that I think really creates a false 750 00:47:56,781 --> 00:47:59,844 sense of security is their failure to report what they did 751 00:47:59,924 --> 00:48:03,306 know to the other residents, which had they known that, they 752 00:48:03,326 --> 00:48:07,229 might have changed their own behavior and wouldn't even be 753 00:48:07,310 --> 00:48:10,809 here today. So these lawsuits are meant to effectuate change 754 00:48:10,829 --> 00:48:13,317 and hold people accountable so that this doesn't happen again 755 00:48:13,497 --> 00:48:14,862 or is less likely to happen again. 756 00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:19,683 Family members had every right to be furious. And while their 757 00:48:19,723 --> 00:48:24,020 own family units were destroyed by Billy Shamiramir, Many of 758 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,437 them came together to form a different type of family. 759 00:48:28,714 --> 00:48:32,960 Bonded by their grief, and united in a push for legislative 760 00:48:33,041 --> 00:48:37,051 change on several issues when it comes to protecting the safety 761 00:48:37,132 --> 00:48:42,533 of our elders in their final years of life. An alleged serial 762 00:48:42,593 --> 00:48:46,196 killer's actions left the victim 's families devastated. Now 763 00:48:46,256 --> 00:48:49,279 they're working with lawmakers to pass legislation that might 764 00:48:49,319 --> 00:48:50,840 save lives in the years to come. 765 00:48:51,361 --> 00:48:54,484 Families are advocating for several new laws. Facilities 766 00:48:54,524 --> 00:48:57,506 would be required to report all crimes on their property and 767 00:48:57,566 --> 00:49:01,069 perform enhanced background checks on employees. Also, 768 00:49:01,190 --> 00:49:04,513 places that buy and sell gold would have to keep records of 769 00:49:04,633 --> 00:49:06,034 who they did business with. 770 00:49:07,090 --> 00:49:09,974 Over the years, there have been some victories on this front. 771 00:49:10,838 --> 00:49:12,899 While other common-sense measures appear to have been 772 00:49:12,979 --> 00:49:16,321 stalled by lobbyists and business owners who refuse to 773 00:49:16,441 --> 00:49:19,562 recognize the mistakes that happened under their watch. 774 00:49:20,142 --> 00:49:23,004 And Protecting Seniors is at the heart of legislation that has 775 00:49:23,044 --> 00:49:25,725 now passed in the Texas House and Senate session. 776 00:49:26,545 --> 00:49:29,507 Today, a group of family members of the victims celebrated 777 00:49:29,607 --> 00:49:30,987 passage of two bills. 778 00:49:31,127 --> 00:49:35,069 One bill will require medical examiners in Texas to notify the 779 00:49:35,069 --> 00:49:39,171 families if there are changes. In the cause of death. Cbs 11's 780 00:49:39,191 --> 00:49:41,933 Andrea Lucia highlighted one such case last February 781 00:49:42,033 --> 00:49:43,794 involving the death of Marilyn Bixler. 782 00:49:44,074 --> 00:49:46,555 Her family didn't know the Collin County medical examiner 783 00:49:46,596 --> 00:49:49,657 had changed the cause of Bixler 's death until they found out 784 00:49:49,677 --> 00:49:53,720 about it on Facebook. Another bill bolsters accountability and 785 00:49:53,740 --> 00:49:57,282 existing laws that govern cash for gold stores. The group 786 00:49:57,302 --> 00:49:59,503 believes had stronger accountability been in place. 787 00:49:59,583 --> 00:50:03,245 Police may have been able to investigate sooner and possibly 788 00:50:03,325 --> 00:50:04,466 prevent more deaths. 789 00:50:04,830 --> 00:50:07,394 Meanwhile, other proposed legislation primarily aimed at 790 00:50:07,435 --> 00:50:09,759 senior living centers didn't pass this session. 791 00:50:10,059 --> 00:50:12,704 The group vows their work is far from over. 792 00:50:13,878 --> 00:50:20,050 In October of 2022, a moment of silence was held for 11 of Billy 793 00:50:20,050 --> 00:50:21,766 's victims in Dallas County. 794 00:50:22,922 --> 00:50:26,349 Because of the two confirmed life sentences, these 11 795 00:50:26,429 --> 00:50:28,521 cases... Or dismissed. 796 00:50:29,695 --> 00:50:34,717 There are, however, Still several murders that occurred in 797 00:50:34,758 --> 00:50:35,461 Collin County. 798 00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:41,109 But only time and maybe the DA's office. We'll tell. 799 00:50:42,162 --> 00:50:44,801 If any further legal action will be taken. 800 00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:49,249 Who was? Billy Shamiramir. 801 00:50:50,582 --> 00:50:52,229 Does it really even matter? 802 00:50:53,334 --> 00:50:56,447 Does it matter that he was born in Kenya and immigrated to the 803 00:50:56,467 --> 00:51:01,308 United States in the 90s? That he was described as quiet and 804 00:51:01,368 --> 00:51:06,068 humble. With no history of violence in his well-respected 805 00:51:06,129 --> 00:51:06,510 family. 806 00:51:07,830 --> 00:51:12,130 At some point, he gave up the right to a biography, I think. 807 00:51:13,238 --> 00:51:16,368 Cause I really don't give a shit. Who Billy Shamiramir is. 808 00:51:17,366 --> 00:51:20,293 And I don't think anyone listening to this right now does 809 00:51:20,413 --> 00:51:20,654 either. 810 00:51:21,866 --> 00:51:22,251 If you do. 811 00:51:23,423 --> 00:51:23,958 Get some help. 812 00:51:25,226 --> 00:51:26,063 Because in the end... 813 00:51:27,635 --> 00:51:33,686 This inhuman piece of shit. Became consumed by his warped 814 00:51:33,847 --> 00:51:38,243 understanding of the American dream. Thinking that it meant 815 00:51:39,082 --> 00:51:41,920 greedily taking. What wasn't his. 816 00:51:42,934 --> 00:51:47,980 And paying absolutely no regard. To the innocent lives he 817 00:51:48,041 --> 00:51:48,805 destroys. 818 00:51:49,812 --> 00:51:50,510 Along the way. 819 00:51:51,958 --> 00:51:57,602 You did it? With a smile. Often pretending to be a compassionate 820 00:51:57,682 --> 00:51:58,306 care worker. 821 00:51:59,382 --> 00:52:01,690 Someone you could trust your grandparents with. 822 00:52:03,102 --> 00:52:07,985 Certainly not someone who was there to... Hurt you. Steal from 823 00:52:08,066 --> 00:52:08,188 you. 824 00:52:09,387 --> 00:52:09,942 Kill you. 825 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:12,100 He was there to help you. 826 00:52:13,258 --> 00:52:14,251 Totally harmless. 827 00:52:15,434 --> 00:52:18,528 Just like a soft Warm. 828 00:52:19,530 --> 00:52:20,217 Comfortable. 829 00:52:21,259 --> 00:52:21,576 Pillow. 830 00:52:50,994 --> 00:52:53,101 All right, that's going to do it for another one. Thank you so 831 00:52:53,181 --> 00:52:57,078 much for joining us. It's going to be an amazing season. Thank 832 00:52:57,078 --> 00:53:00,348 you for being here. And we hope to see you real soon with the 833 00:53:00,368 --> 00:53:04,782 launch of our brand new app and Sword Scale TV. Stay safe.
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