2025 NFL Week 7 NFC Preview

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to NFL Daily, where we can't believe the disrespect of what's happening in Vegas. And I usually just don't jump right into the games. But the Bucks five and a half point underdogs, and Patrick will tell me they're just putting the number in a way that's gonna inspire people to to go. But that in theory, you want it to be on both sides, and I feel like everyone would be taking the Bucks as a five and a half point dog to a banged up Lions team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, correct that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, this is why I'm not doing very well on game debut and why I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Allowed to the Bucks anyway. What are you so upset?

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Speaker 4: Champion Greg has successfully picked the actual Super Bowl before. Either way, don't let Greg sell himself short. Uh, you know who will never sell himself short.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield his Tampa Bay Buccaneers going on the road to take on those two Troit Lions. The disrespectful according to Craig line of five and a half as the Detroit Lions are giving that up. The over under is fifty two and a half and Steve Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, and Lisa Salters and Laura rt lizz are going to see a great game with two of the NFC's best. But with the Lions coming off a rough long that was a tough low. How do you how do you see this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Look, I think the Lions doo bounce back. They didn't look Jared Goff. That offense could never get going. They got stuffed after that opening drive, and I think it's like, Okay, let's let's figure this out the Chiefs. That's why I said the Chiefs defense was back, but they just couldn't get They couldn't stay on the field the Lion So Amar roth Saint frown this defense or this offense for the Lions, I think we'll click a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: Put more points up. The fact that it's five and a half.

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Speaker 5: Patrick, to your point, there's no way by the time the game gets here, it's five and a half and just Tampa Bay all the injuries too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at some point they have to stack up.

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Speaker 6: But to me, Detroit injuries are more of.

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Speaker 3: A concern their complimentary injuries.

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Speaker 1: Right, because losing your two starting cornerbacks Terry an Arnold and DJ Reid, and then losing Dianne Branch and Kirby Joseph who is going to be on the injury report and we'll see if he actually plays. That's all at one position, and it's a vulnerable position, and we've seen at this point that the Bucks can handle losing skill position guys. So Noah Buka this week, but you probably get Mike Evans back. He is back at practice. No Chris Godwin. He wasn't a factor really when he was out there. Ultimately, anyways, this season and they've been fine without Bucky Irving.

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Speaker 6: The offensive line is healthy.

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Speaker 1: So to me, if I was judging like which injuries I'm more worried about, it's actually the Lions because I think that's secondary getting cut up by your boy Baker johnser.

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Speaker 6: Cape sun rolling.

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Speaker 7: This is going to send me to the grave. Johnson, Johnson and Shepherd esquired. Those are going to be the to guys depending on Mike Evans's status. Now that's a hamstring, so yes, absolutely could imagine him being back on the field. Don't know how many deep goes he's he's getting sent on or what his role will actually be. But Baker Mayfield was hitting those other guys who made plays for him. You know this coaching staff was so excited about Tess Johnson all through training camp and really was impressed by how well he did. Probably the surprise of the group was Cameron Johnson, who steps up and makes a big play, catches a touchdown pass. And I think on the other side, where the Detroit Lions are having some serious issues in their secondary, you're starting to watch the Buccaneers secondary truly come to life. Jamel Dean and Jacob Parrish are both really really important player. Teams are attacking him and he is standing up to it. And Jamel Dean is good for one takeaway, two takeaways a game, or at least a splash play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And so this this opportunity unity for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And I understand because Abuka is a significant loss. Yeah, And I think going into the game knowing that he's probably not available is a lot different than losing him in the middle of the game. Probably more for Sterling Shepherd in the targets than you know, because Tes Walker is a great explosive playmaker. Excuse me, Tes Johnson, I'm getting you know, wish casting my tes my preferred test. But Tes Johnson right on those deep plays on places where they try to get him the ball in space, but consistently in the route like where Baker trust him to be. I think it's more of a Sterling Shepherd game against like considering the entire Lions secondary might not be there as much as I would lean to pick Detroit in this game, like missing your entire secondary like five points might kind of.

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Speaker 2: It's like, it's insane.

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Speaker 5: This is just one where the way that Detroit just got handled last game. Yeah, I think they are mad out. They go on these twelve and thirteen plays drives right, they keep the ball away from Bakery. They've run them to death. They Dave Montgomery, they do everything they have to do in this game. I just think this is one You could look at the personnel and this and that, but this is one Detroit. They just they got out physical, which doesn't happen to the Lions.

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Speaker 1: In this game though, when they try to run the ball like that is a great run defense they're going up against. And so that's a fascinating matchup. The numbers are we have to run it with those two sure to them. They have not had a lot of explosive plays, surprisingly in their running game this year. Montgomery certainly hasn't, but even Jamir Gibbs hasn't really been hitting like the plus twenty plays like you're used to, and the numbers are great in terms of yards before context. I think the offensive line for the most parts doing it. But that's strength on strength when they're trying to run the ball, and I give the Bucks defense plenty of credit and plenty of ability to slow them down. I don't know if I who I'm going to pick in this game. I'm probably leaning Bucks. They're also getting Zion McCollum back, it sounds like, and I expect Evans to play, just because Todd Bowles is not a guy who tries to hide things injury wise, and he basically just sounds very optimistic that both Evans and McCollum are back, And so that's really big and this could have big timing implications by the end of the season. Maybe one of these teams is the number one seed in a pretty wide open NFC Quick.

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Speaker 7: Other injury note on the Lions side for the positive, Dan Campbell said on the local radio out in Detroit as of Wednesday morning that Alee McNeil is quote unquote freaking playing let's go all right, go.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 2: Loves the Lion's Detach's big.

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Speaker 6: What he's trying to say, you like to, I mean, you're being no, he is amazing. I do worry.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you get excited when the guy's coming back from a really, really serious injury, and then you realize, oh, it's gonna take a minute. That just happened with Chris Godwin, so you know, yeah, let's just ease him in.

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Speaker 6: Low expectations, just help out.

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Speaker 4: My expectations are right where they should be. Because freakin' playing is a different situation. Then yeah, he's gonna play freaking Plain's freaking plain man.

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Speaker 6: I think we now grow up and actually play well.

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Speaker 4: Next match up the spiraling Philadelphia Eagles in the Carson Wentz Refinish Eagles favored by one and a half. They are at the Minnesota Vikings. The over under is forty three and a half out of them mean, g Reg and Pam Oliver on the call as Jordan, how do the Birds stop this slide?

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's here's the thing. There was this debate over the first part of the season about the people who are worried about the Eagles legitimately because some of the symptoms that they were showing were signs of a greater illness that we've seen in the past. Right, and then there are the people that were getting so mad at the people who were worried, Right, And now I think we can see it's okay to be worried about the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: This is a game they have to have.

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Speaker 7: The fact that Minnesota SODA's defensive line is not playing up to the standard that was advertised or invested in in this offseason when they kept trying to add to that group. They've allowed fifteen explosive runs through five games in twenty twenty five. There are only three explosive runs through five games in twenty twenty four. The Minnesota Vikings front this this reinvested, reimagined front. So if you're going to get back on track, if you're going to get Saquon Barkley back on track, if you're going to get this embattled and I can't believe I'm saying this, this embattled Eagles offensive line, Yeah, back on track. You are going to try to run it right at Minnesota and that Brian Flores defense that has to get back to playing the way that We're used to seeing it play, and.

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Speaker 1: I feel like trying hasn't been the issue for the Eagles. Like there have been some games where the fans are like, well, why did you go so pass?

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Speaker 6: Have you here?

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Speaker 1: For the most part, they've just been banging their head against the wall. It's not creative. I agree, it's not creative. It's not effective, and they are embattled, but they're the ones in battling themselves.

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Speaker 6: Like Lane Johnson.

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Speaker 1: For all the talk that Aj Brown's you know, Instagram posts or whatever got, like Lane Johnson saying after the game that they're predictable and that they need to be more creative. To me, that is more meaningful than anything else. So that's Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson saying that. So I'm very curious to see how that running game, which you can go through a lot of the numbers in terms of how much Saque has been hitting the backfield and everything.

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Speaker 6: It's ghastly like it. It's just not working for them.

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Speaker 5: What he's saying is we're leaving a lot of stuff on tape. The teams you're taking advantage. M Like, I mean, that's that's what they're prepping for you. Brian Flores will go ahead and set that up. The interesting thing is JJ McCarthy is supposed to be healthy enough to play this week.

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Speaker 7: But I yeah, but you can't make him the backup. But you can't make him the backup, you got to at least pretend at least pretend that he's not healthy enough to relay why Because if he's healthy enough to play and he's not playing and he's not starting for you, that's wrong.

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Speaker 2: If he's healthy enough to play, he's going to start.

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Speaker 6: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I think he is healthy. Well, he's got to practice this week, but that's the main thing. But when Kevin o'c ronald said on Wednesday, I believe that they've really been focused on improving his lower body mechanics and that he won't be able to play until he demonstrates that the lower body mechanics are better. And Carson Wentz he basically indicated it is.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: Lower is fine, And I think Carson Wentz is starting this game over a healthy JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if Wentz starts, it's well, we'll see what's his offense going to be. I mean, Wentz could give you a great one or he can lay an egg. I mean, you just don't know. But the Vikings are kind of like to me too, like the Eagles, Like man, they just haven't hit it yet. Yeah, you know, because they can't score, we still know what they are offensively, I mean defensively, I think they're going to be fine. I mean we talked about some of the run issues that they have. At some point foot off, he's going to have to pass yea and that's where all the question marks. And so I'm just wondering if the Vikings can take advantage of it. He defense it hasn't played well and makes him plays regards to who's a quarterback that guy there eighteen justin Jefferson needs to be going off because he's gonna have some opportunity and.

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Speaker 2: Have to wait to see it.

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Speaker 4: Like which of the very very important Philadelphia Eagles defenders are available for this game because no Carter no Quinnyon.

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Speaker 2: Was huge, a huge issue.

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Speaker 4: In the game against the Giants, And like we've we've got another year of like this journyman quarterback now playing for Kevin O'Connell taking all these deep shots thirty four point eight percent of Carson Wentz's balls. How about that are going down the field, like we're gonna aggressive Carson Wentz and you know being able to throw to eighteen. Uh, probably is a big part of that. But like, how aggressive is O'Connell going to be against this Fangio defense. It's an interesting game and I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I am really excited too. I think I'm going to assign myself this game. Sorry, guys, I.

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Speaker 6: Really want to see it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you're the host man, you should.

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Speaker 6: I want to see more Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 7: Well, let's go the thing that I I don't want to have my point miss kinstrut either. So like when I say, you cannot have JJB the backup to Carson Wentz if JJ is healthy enough to play. I remember back in twenty twenty when Kevin O'Connell was the offensive coordinator for the right in the middle of the divorce between Sean McVay and Jared Goff, when a healthy enough to play Jared Goff was benched for John Walford and that was the point of no return. I'm not saying there's a fracture in Minnesota at all, but you invested in this young man in JJ McCarthy, and you have to at least say, okay, even if he's healthy enough to play, you're not gonna make him the backup to Carson Wentz, putting him in this weird uh like headline zone of noise and mess that they tried so hard to avoid all of last year and all of entering this year. You make Max Brosmer the backup and you just roll with it, and you say, when JJ is healthy enough to play, he will come start for us.

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Speaker 3: That is what you get.

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Speaker 4: The problem in that insist though, was McVeigh making the wrong decision. Yeah, as long as.

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Speaker 7: You make decisions, you're not always predicting that the backup quarterback who becomes a starter is leaving Seattle in an ambulance, like you're not predicting that happy.

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Speaker 1: So JJ's twenty two and it started two games, So I'm just saying that's ultimately putt him a healthy one behind Max Brosmer, who is an undrafted rookie, y older.

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Speaker 7: But he's not healthy enough to play. That's what you say. He's not healthy enough to play. It's not his mechanics, it's not his this, that or the other. You say he is not healthy enough to play. Carson Wentz is starting for us this week. Max Brasner is the backup when JJ McCarthy is healthy enough to play.

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Speaker 3: He is our starter.

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Speaker 8: That's all you do, or or they believe that ort to get to the real point, though, you know, you gotta do it for Carson Wentz because remember Jalen Hurts wasn't even playing, he was just drafted.

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Speaker 2: Carson was. You know, he got the yips.

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Speaker 5: So if Carson might be looking over his shoulder in any way, shape or form, that's why you make the move you're making because Carson has shown what he's got a capable backup.

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Speaker 3: That maybe he's not as Yeah, I think it's okay if.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just be honest, honestly, it's because even because if you're honest and it's like, well, you know JJ is playing bat, so we're gonna play at Carson Wentz and then ultimately JJ goes to the Browns and leads a franchise revolution.

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Speaker 3: Guys, we're not even close. Come on, come on now, we're not even close.

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Speaker 7: We're not even close to getting to the points to where you guys are insinuating we're going here. I am just saying you have you have dealt with headlines about this kid that you invested so much in for two years now and is he gonna be ready? And it's okay if he's going to take some time to actually be ready, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't say that. Yeah, so don't put.

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Speaker 7: Him into any situations in the press, in whatever, don't talk him into any situations, don't back him into any corners that he can't.

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Speaker 3: Cash out himself. Like that's that's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Don't you don't need to worry about this yet, Like this isn't a split or a fracture or anything like that. I'm saying you don't need to even pretend that this guy is going to be playing or on the field for you in any sort of a urgency option until he's actually ready to be on the field for you. You don't have to pretend. Just just do what I Just do what I'm telling you.

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Speaker 6: Just listen. Also, there's a very real chance he's starting on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so this might mean nothing like most things.

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Speaker 6: Don't even know.

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Speaker 1: And they might look at this matchup too as like one that they could get over on for like we'll move on. But the Eagles defensive decline is way bigger yeah, and like more significant than the offensive decline this year. The offensive decline basically hasn't even happened, right. Quinna and Mitchell did practice in a limited fashion, so did Jalen Carter, and so did Landon Dickerson. So it does look like they're going to get some good injury news of players back.

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Speaker 4: And they've needed it. It's time for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's go places you want to talk about a defense that is resurging on Sunday night football. The Atlanta Falcons defense is going on the road. The defense led by a former Jets interim head coach, Jeff Albert, putting on a show on Monday night taking on these San Francisco forty nine ers were favored by two inns and a half points. Greg The over under is forty seven and a half. It's Sunday night, so Mike, Chris and Melissa will be there. We will all be there. We'll be podcasting and waiting to watch a great game. How do you think that game goes?

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Speaker 6: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: These two teams are perfect examples of I think where the NFL is right now, where twenty teams have three wins or more, and you're just not really sure, Like do we trusted Atlanta. It's a short week coming off such a big win to go across the country and they might not have either of their starting tackles. Then again, the forty nine ers are so banged up their defense is just like a walking bummer at this point to not have Bosa and Warner. Brockbirdy could be back, he was limited in practice. Pearsall was not at practice. George Kittle is fully expected to play, you know, according to you know Shanahan and John Lynch in terms of their optimism publicly, and he was back at practice. So there's just like so much up in the air, and that these coaches I just I predict mess, That's what I have.

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Speaker 7: It is interesting because Kyle Shanahan said early in the week that while mac Jones and brock Purty are both limited, brock Purty is more limited. Yeah, so this could be yet another Mac Jones game.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 7: You guys mentioned Atlanta's defense all the show that they put on against Josh Allen and the Bills. Sorry to our producer Eric behind the glass over there, who's been hitting me with the killer drops all day. Today, but I get my revenge.

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Speaker 3: No that tho.

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Speaker 7: The way that they are blitzing, it's it's uncharacteristic of what Raheem Morris would typically like to do. But this is the blend of Raheem Morris and Jeff Ulbrich now partnered together. And I love it because they blitz creatively and with different timings depending on the angle that you're pass rushing from. So the outside guys and the inside guys obviously they have their rush plan, but then when they're sending the extra players for extra pressure, they're doing it in a way that's cutting off almost where you're looking at the court as the quarterback, you're looking at what lanes you can then come to find, and the blitz comes and fills that lane just fast enough to make the quarterback hesitate. He was kind of scrambling around in this sort of cloudy looking for his rush lanes situation. Didn't trust what he was seeing downfield to throw the ball, couldn't really cut and run the way that he wants to because of the way that they were pressuring him.

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Speaker 3: It was so create it was like geometric art. You guys, I loved it.

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Speaker 6: And you do that every week. They've been doing it week after here.

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Speaker 5: Here's why they can do that, and it's hopefully this becomes a story because one Kaden nellis the INSI linebacker.

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Speaker 2: So it's underrated player in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: I've said this for two years, but they've taken Divine Diablo, who was with the last name by the way, We're a former safety type player who can run. And Rahiem told me this in training camp. You're going to see some things out of this kid. You haven't team. You've got a guy who can run, and that goes to Jordan's point when you're blitzing a certain way and you've got two linebackers who can go. We saw this with Drake green Law on Fred Warner with the Niners. They can clean up any stuff up front. But the thing is the guys in front have been so gap disciplined. You saw that when Josh Allen was like, Okay, where can I go nowhere? Like, but they've got two linebackers who can clean it up. Aj Terrell at the corner is playing his tail off. Yeah, he got two great safeties. You got the rookies Javier Watch and Jesse Bates. So defensively they're sound on all three levels and they're cranking it up all bricks. You know, was with Raheem when they were there and the before when dan Quinn was coaching, they usually kind of wait, wait, wait, now we're gonna come after you. Now they're like, nope, we're coming at you from the gate. So I love the ways they're playing. This game is gonna be interesting. But with mac Jones, who's gutting through that knee and that oblique mm hmm, you could see it show up some in that in that game against the Bucks. If he's stationary like he is, it's gonna be tough. It is gonna be really tough because those linebackers can match up with Christian McCaffrey at the backfield.

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Speaker 4: And a lot goes on Kendrick bourne shoulders, which is nothing new to Kendrick Born after getting there is at one hundred and forty two yards and could say like.

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Speaker 6: Exactly, Fantasy pickup of the year.

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, go ahead, a great pickup by the forty nine er because there was some negotiation that was going on before Kendrew Borne actually got signed.

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Speaker 3: And ice went up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yesterday's price evolved and so now where the Bills were in a situation where, especially in the second half, they couldn't shake free of the Falcon secondary. Like better hope that there's a kittle availability in this game, because if those pressures were getting that was the most That was the highest blitz rate that Josh Allen has seen in almost four years. Like you gotta go back to twenty twenty one for a blitz rate like that against Josh Allen or teams kind of felt unsafe to come after him to that extent, but the Falcons were able to clean out of the gate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the entire game.

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Speaker 4: And so if like seeing Mac Jones like adjust the knee brace and like hobble up and get up slowly for the past few weeks, like I don't know, maybe they both have to play in this game.

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Speaker 7: And on the other side, I think this is so cool and unfortunate because I really would have loved to see Fred Warner and not even just Mike Pennix, but Fred Warner and Jean Robinson chess match as well, because Jean Robinson and the pistol. We talked about this on NFL Daily with him last week, Friend of the Program, like how he's setting up his own runs. They're giving him the autonomy directionally as if as a quarterback would have to set up different layers of the defense if that quarterback was setting up his runs, and Insteadjon is able to kind of help do that and do that, especially aligned if they're going to run outside in the pistol, which has its detractors. But I am a big fan of and it's it's cool because I would have loved to see Fred Warner negotiate that and and counter that and that battle. And these are really this is a young forty nine ers defense that I think has played really really admirably, especially undermanned and sort of rebuilding as it as it is. And Robert Sala has really coached this group up. And by the way, the Venn diagram of coaching staffs here, Roberts's Ala, Jeff Oulrich, Raheem Morris, Kyle Shanahan, a bunch of assistants. Yeah, And so it's it's it's so interesting for all those reasons, and I can't help but think and wish that if any player I wish could see go against this the way that Atlanta is playing schematically right now, it is Fred Warner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine or superpower used to be incredible game planning plus super duper stars like we are more talented than you, and like physicality without Moosa, without Warner, Perdy hasn't been healthy. Not that he's at that level. Trent Williams is not quite where Trent Williams.

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Speaker 6: Used to be.

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Speaker 1: Like they they just don't feel like that super team, Whereas in Atlanta, sure it's like greater than the sum of their parts on defense, but on offense you have two Capital D dudes in Bijon Robinson and Drake London's and uh, they're just more talented, I think than the forty nine ers. All right, we're going to take a break and we're going to go to the NFC East, which is all jumbled up, and everyone's looking at the Eagles thinking maybe we can win the division.

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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, Washington and Dallas coming off disappointing losses each, but there's good injury news on the horizon. CD lamb practicing on Wednesday and Cavante Turpin.

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Speaker 6: Maybe we're getting CD lamback.

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Speaker 4: For this game, and maybe the Cowboys have needed all the offensive help they could get considering the way things have gone for the defense. These both of these things were on win streaks, but now it's the Commanders who are favored by two and a half points at the Dallas Cowboys. Fifty four and a half is the over under. It is Fox one, Kevin Brooker, Tom Brady, Aaron Andrews, and Tom Rinaldi there for the call, as Steve, do we finally get an opportunity for Dallas to show its defensive strength against the division opponent.

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Speaker 5: No, oh, no, that's no the defense. Their defense is not good. Jayden's gonna be upset by the way that game ended. Bill Krosskey Merrit's gonna be upset by the fact that he gave it up in the first half. The offensive line's gonna have to play a little bit better in the run game. I just think this is one Terry McLaurin is supposed to be back practicing this week. Washington's just gonna go off. They That was one of those you could tell by Dan Campbell's body language after the game that he was sick. I mean the mistackle. I'm sorry, yeah, Dan Quinn, sorry about that, the body language that.

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Speaker 3: He had to go te you guys, it's fine, Yeah.

00:25:04
Speaker 5: The mistackle at the end on Deandres Swift, Like, I think Washington's gonna come out and play one of its best games of the season.

00:25:11
Speaker 2: I think Jane's gonna come out and play well.

00:25:14
Speaker 5: The fifty four and a half line is not even high enough. There's gonna be some point score in this game. I think Washington's gonna put a whole lot of them up there.

00:25:20
Speaker 1: Everyone plays their best against this Dallas defense, and you look at like the approach that the Bears took, which I thought was really good. I know it wasn't perfect against Washington, but when teams have slowed down Cliff Kingsbury's commanders, it's been a lot of just we're gonna have more numbers than you in the running game, and we're gonna make you try to win one on one matchups, which works better when Terry McLaurin is out of the lineup and now he will be back in. But they ultimately like got totally stonewalled by what going into the game was maybe the worst run defense in the league, the Bears, and I thought it was a good game play, and it's like, oh, you know, who else you know could run that game plan? Like the former Cowboys coordinator Dan Quinn problem is no longer there, And like who is the most inflexible defensive coordinator in the league. It's Matt Eberflus. Like I just I can't imagine it.

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Speaker 3: I think Flus is not loose and like those.

00:26:13
Speaker 1: Guys get Deron Bland and Trayvon things like they would be up for it. But I just kind of can't see the Cowboys having that sort of approach in this game.

00:26:21
Speaker 7: But I think both with both offenses, we're going to see a lot of points. Points on both sides, And I agree with one hundred percent with what you guys are saying about the Commanders. I think that this is an all out. You try to score seven, six or seven on every single drive, right, and I think that is it's possible against what this Cowboys defense is doing. I also think though, that this Commander's defense looks old to me. I mean, they look slower, and we were worried about this last year, and they play really hard. Nobody's questioning that, and they are really smart players. And Frankie Luvu is flying around looks back to his old self. Teams were kind of putting a lot on them in terms of how they were countering him earlier in the season. He's flying around. But I just I don't I they just they're creaky to me in different ways too. And I think that if you're getting the guys back on this Cowboys offense that does have something. No, they could not run the ball this last game, but overall throughout the season, they've run the ball extremely well. Schematically, they've looked great up front. Javonte Williams has looked explosive. I think that that is an anomaly last week versus the norm that we've seen. And if you're getting these guys back with Dak playing the way that he is, and unfortunately, I do believe this is another possibly wasted Dak game like most of these losses have been. But him and Schottenheimer and Javante and this offensive line who also got guys back and are getting back into a rhythm, like there's just something there.

00:27:48
Speaker 3: I just like it.

00:27:48
Speaker 7: I don't like their defense at all, but I just like what the Cowboys have cooking on offense. And I think they trade blows back and forth all day.

00:27:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, even the passing game, despite the fact that the run game went in to the singularity that is the Panthers defense in Charlotte for some reason that we won't be able to and never understand.

00:28:08
Speaker 2: But the past game.

00:28:09
Speaker 4: Still looked good and and to imagine Dak having the full compliment where it's not Ryan Flinoy on the field is said, it's now ceedee lamb he ryd. He had a great game. But they've they've all been been able to be successful. But to when George Pickens is the number one threat and still having the performances that he's had, it shows that all the potential which is kind of wasted by this inflexible, as Greg says, defense, which does have some flexibility because kyri Elam.

00:28:38
Speaker 2: Is not playing almost at all anymore.

00:28:42
Speaker 4: It was to the start of the season where it's like that trade didn't necessarily yield the results that the Cowboys would have liked to had, but for for weekend and week out to be the same exact situation we expect to be in the game.

00:28:53
Speaker 2: Oh, the Cowboys are going to be in this game.

00:28:54
Speaker 4: They've got to score a lot of points to try to eke it out at the end and be right every single week, like someone's gotta eventually give here.

00:29:01
Speaker 1: It's such a big game. I do like thinking about these in the context of the season. It's why that Cowboys loss of the Panthers I think really hurt. Like their schedule is difficult, but if you want mess oh, always just imagine, you know, the Cowboys do get this win, they can get they get back to like three to three in one. You got the Giants and the Eagles playing twice in three weeks. If the Giants could ever like sweep that matchup, that game next week is gonna be big. And even though I've kind of liked what I've seen overall, out of the commanders this year. Like, if they found a way to stub their toe this week, I don't think they will, but if they did and they're at three and four, yeah, it's just like a shake it all up. This thing is is gross and it's the NFC East of like four or five years ago.

00:29:44
Speaker 2: No, that would be great.

00:29:45
Speaker 5: And look, I just think you know that, especially knowing that coaching staff in Washington, like they're sick. The mistackles, poor run angles are on defense. You know, offensively they were fine, they said that the giveaways, Like, I just think this is gonna be a a much better week, but you don't know what you're gonna get out of this. And they're one of these teams right now we're like what are they?

00:30:06
Speaker 1: Because the two quarterbacks, you kind of know what you're getting every week from these two teams and that's about it.

00:30:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that.

00:30:12
Speaker 5: And in Jaden, you know, still he's coming back getting healthy and he was he's a little spotty from time to time, but you know they get Terry McLaurin back that that changes that offense.

00:30:21
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, as much as they love to be at home, to not be in the elements after the weather caused a lot of those issues. Yes, it's gonna be a nice, comfortable seventy two degrees inside a AT and T Stadium with a zero.

00:30:35
Speaker 3: Percent change out for the sun.

00:30:37
Speaker 2: Right there's dead. The green Bay Packers are going on the road.

00:30:41
Speaker 4: They are six and a half point favorites at the Arizona Cardinals. The over unders forty four and a half. Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma and Jen Hale on the call.

00:30:50
Speaker 2: We saw a.

00:30:52
Speaker 4: Moral victory from the Arizona Cardinals in a Jacoby Prisette game where the Colts like oddly fell apart and warm ups and that had to make some adjustments.

00:31:01
Speaker 2: How do you see this one going towards?

00:31:03
Speaker 7: I would argue that this is not really a road game for green Bay considering how many Packers fans in wisconsinights do reside in the state of Arizona overall, and how deep they will travel for this game and fill up the stands there at State Farm Stadium. I suspect, you know, I still think the Packers have it. They've got all the pieces. Jordan Love's playing great, the offense is starting to come together. The run defense is the best in the league, right now in terms of yards per game, and Mike Parsons is still on the team, lest we forgot. I would just really like for not only Packers, this Packers team as a whole, but also like some of their fans to just like loosen up a little, to lighten up. We had people guys in our show mentions mad that we were having fun with an icing the kicker moment, like lighten up, guys like the expectations, like like enjoy, enjoy something. The expectations on this team are so high. And I say this carries right even through to the team itself that plays still to me a little tight sometimes and a little in its own head sometimes the head coach. And that's including the play caller, which I was about to say, and I feel like this, I just want this team looser. I just want to see them cut it loose and play loose and schematically sound and fundamentally sound obviously, but I can tell the second they made that move, and a great move and one that is going to take them to the playoffs, deep in the playoffs, and one that makes them instant Super Bowl contenders. In trading for Micah Parsons, you also saw them get tight. You also saw them clench up a little bit because this is a team that knows it's got what it takes to go the whole way. So just enjoy it, have some fun, loosen up.

00:32:49
Speaker 6: Be free play like a complete game.

00:32:51
Speaker 1: I think that's what would Yeah, they just are always frustrated and there there's always something about the game that they're a little.

00:32:58
Speaker 3: Enjoy something about.

00:33:00
Speaker 1: Like they haven't been a totally complete team I would expect, like I would definitely take the Cardinals plus six and a half year because every cart like the Cardinals are the example of the middle of the NFL. They are the most average team in the NFL, even with their back two and four is not indicative like they actually have a plus scoring differential this year because the four games they've lost have been by a combined nine points, but the two games they won, we're also one score games, like everything is a last minute field goal or a last second throw for Jacobi Brissette. And I think they're they're a tough enough defense to give Jordan love in this offense problem which hasn't been able to put together like a totally complete game, and.

00:33:40
Speaker 5: Arizona just does know how to win I mean that that's the main thing. That's why they're losing these close games. So it's a little mistake here they are. They just don't know how to close it out. But in terms of Greenbay, I mean, defensively, they should be whether it's Jacoby Brissett, whether it's Kyle or they should be able to handle this offense. This is one where I really want to see their defense kind of choke a team out. Yeah, like we're that good. They don't have the weapons. Marvin Harrison is doing ancussion protocol. I believe, like, let's go there, choke them out, not expect their offense to do something, and beat a team that doesn't know how to win a close game.

00:34:10
Speaker 4: Marvin Jr. Was limited as of Wednesday, as was Kyler Murray. And so there's if Jordan or anybody else is looking for a loose Packers moment. Josh Jacobs was miked up against the Cincinnati Bengals, much like the Leonard Fournette miked up of a few years ago. He was laughing every time he was tackled. So there's a light Packers moment where yeah, just.

00:34:36
Speaker 7: Enjoy the ride, guys. This is gonna be fun for Packers fans just just just.

00:34:40
Speaker 2: Enjoy A lot of them are A lot of them are just plenty of them are.

00:34:44
Speaker 3: I know, it's just fund They just you know, expectations.

00:34:48
Speaker 6: About the Cardinals fans. They will crush a team.

00:34:50
Speaker 1: I'm more worried about the Cardinals fans, who did have high expectations this year and this is their last game before thereby it just feels like a big moment for them if they go into that buy too, and it's the lowest moment of the Jonathan again An era, and like, I give them a chance. There are some things to like. Part of it was because Jacoby Brissett played, so that's tricky. I assume Kyler Murray will be starting if healthy. He's limited as you mentioned. Then again, they have the bye week, so reading between the lines, to me, it sounded like they weren't counting on Kyler Murray earlier in the week.

00:35:22
Speaker 6: But maybe he's making good progress.

00:35:24
Speaker 1: Like with Jacoby Brissett, you saw the play action rate went way up. He was not kind of the dink and dunk Jacoby Brissett.

00:35:31
Speaker 4: He was.

00:35:32
Speaker 1: They had more chunk plays in that game than almost the entire season combined, and they actually had their offensive line that they intended to have going into twenty twenty four before a number of injuries struck to different players, and that's been the case somewhat this year. And Will Hernandez is coming back from an injury. They actually had it all together for the first time since before last season, and they.

00:35:54
Speaker 6: Played pretty well against the Colts.

00:35:56
Speaker 1: So like, I'm not counting this Cardinals team out in this week or long term. Oh why not? I think they're They're like right in the middle. They're right in the middle the NFL.

00:36:06
Speaker 4: Congratulations the Arizona Cardinals at twenty twenty five. I'll look at Greg like, okay, you are the middle reach that termon my brother.

00:36:13
Speaker 7: I actually look at Steve every time Greg makes a point, because Steve is in within within reach of the swinging mits here.

00:36:20
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, so you can take a shot.

00:36:24
Speaker 2: Steve Greg's wingspan in.

00:36:29
Speaker 3: That shockingly large wings.

00:36:30
Speaker 2: In that great shirt.

00:36:32
Speaker 4: By the way, let's go, hey, A reminder of the Houston Texans exists. Coming off of the buy, they went into Baltimore, got healthy on offense, and now they get to be a part of the Monday night doubleheader. The later start at the Seattle Seahawks, who are a three point favorite. Chris Fowler, Lewis Riddick, Dan Orlovsky, Katie George, Peter Schrieger on the call as we get a chance to see if that offensive revolution Greg was just the Baltimore Ravens or if the Texans are back.

00:37:04
Speaker 1: This will be a very tough game to figure that out, because they could put up sixteen points as long as it wasn't complete disaster class like that might be a good performance against this Seattle team. We'll see if Devin Witherspoon gets back on the field this week. I just think he's so important to what everything Mike McDonald wants to do, especially the combination of him and Julian Love who have been out. But I like that you frame it in the not just the Ravens, you know game. I like that coming off of buy I think coaches and staffs tell us a lot about themselves. So what have they worked on during this by what are they going to look like, especially in terms of being able to pick up pass rushers, because that's what they've really struggled with upfront, and Seattle makes it as hard as any team in the league to do.

00:37:49
Speaker 7: Yeah, This is yes, because you could see like small incremental improvements, and yes, some of it was the opponent. I will I definitely allow that and a lack of pass rush in Baltimore, but you could see you could see slight starts of incremental adjustments and improvements, getting woody marks in there a little bit more, help them out, the offensive line in general, settling down a little bit. They're young in some places and need to obviously put continue to build positive blocks and steps forward. So the bye week, yes huge. This is a nightmare opponent defensively to go again night Maripon. But it's a night mare opponent for both teams because Seattle is the most explosive offense in the NFL, right now, love that for them. They are so fun to watch, but they're going to go against a brick wall in that Houston Texans defense, not just their secondary but also Seattle has to improve their run game for as great as as much as we love the blueprint of it, and as much as we love watching this offense overall, this is not going to be an easy defense to go against to get to fixing certain things that need to be fixed.

00:38:53
Speaker 5: No, I mean, you look at Houston's front seven one of the most talented front sevens in the NFL. I mean, from the linebackers, you know, you got to so you got some of the guys, you know, as he's outsider, and then of course the bookend pass rushers come for Sam Donald. But again, I think the timing offense way she out of running its offense right now. You can still move the ball up and down the field on Houston. It's gonna be whether they can get into the end zone. I think that's the issue.

00:39:16
Speaker 2: But the way Donald is playing right now, I'm all on the Sam club.

00:39:21
Speaker 7: He's number one in e PA per play Composite ranking out over them every week.

00:39:26
Speaker 2: We got him on the island.

00:39:27
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, he's there quite an island, like right now. We got to get CJ back. They're not going to be a game though. That will probably support I don't know.

00:39:37
Speaker 5: Man TJ seems to be I mean, I know is the Ravens and the Titans the last two games, but he just seems to be like, Okay, now I feel a little more behind this offensive line.

00:39:46
Speaker 2: So I don't think he's scret right.

00:39:48
Speaker 5: He's going in his game ready to deal a little bit so I think this is going to be a tight game.

00:39:52
Speaker 2: It's just tough because it's in Seattle.

00:39:54
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:39:55
Speaker 4: Well that's the thing though, because the road to Warriors, they think you of all kinds of problems. Folks and douvall were on cloud nine after that win against the Chiefs. But there comes JSN streaking down the field for sixty one. But the Jags, you know, there's a reason that they're shipping corners out and trying to make changes in the secondary that the Texans, I think, talent wise, are uniquely positioned to be a problem for Seattle's offense to an extent that maybe they hadn't seen yet.

00:40:23
Speaker 1: And they should be a problem for everyone's offense, like the physicality that they have. Although I was thinking about like bigger picture that this season, I always think this it just as a reminder it's really tough to build around defense. I did like the Texans defense is great, but ultimately they've given up a couple drives in key moments this season where even though the offense has struggled, they could easily be four and won this year if the defense made a I think about the Vikings really built around their defense and it's tough for their defense to carry them week after week. I think about the Broncos, who you think of as one of the best defenses. Those last aren't even in the top ten in DVOA right now. Because when you go up against an offense, and I would include the Seahawks in one of these, at least their passing games that's truly efficient. It's just nothing is set up for you to dominate in this league. So you better have like a respectable the better offense, or your team is kind of de a If your defense.

00:41:17
Speaker 5: Is on the field, you know, over and over and over, eventually the team's can hit you on a ten play drive and eleven play drive and wear your butt down, and then that's that.

00:41:26
Speaker 2: The offense has got to be able to point up on the board.

00:41:28
Speaker 5: That's why, again, I think, Houston, I don't know this watching them.

00:41:32
Speaker 2: I love this game.

00:41:33
Speaker 6: What is my favorite game of the week?

00:41:35
Speaker 3: You already gave you one.

00:41:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just though it's Monday night football, it's late.

00:41:38
Speaker 7: Oh my god, everyone gets it.

00:41:41
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll be there.

00:41:43
Speaker 4: Why why can't the Seahawks run the ball consistently?

00:41:45
Speaker 2: Though?

00:41:46
Speaker 4: Like, at what point is that like an issue?

00:41:49
Speaker 6: Yeah?

00:41:49
Speaker 7: Last week was concerning That's the thing that's wild to me because the scheme is there and there. They brought some dudes in and and they've got the two back system, and you would think all of the pieces on paper, everything, even on scheme wise, on the field, when you're watching the tape, you're like, I could see why that would work, and yet you know, but here's the thing. Two weeks ago, Mike McDonald was mad as heck at his pass rusher lack thereof, spoke about it at length in the in the media that week.

00:42:18
Speaker 3: This week, obviously not thrilled with the run game.

00:42:21
Speaker 7: Speaking about it at length in the media this week.

00:42:23
Speaker 3: This is this is the focus this week.

00:42:25
Speaker 7: He is never hiding what his team is focusing on week over week over week. And you have to run the ball, or at least try because if you try to get the ball to these big tight ends that they're having success with, you got these badass linebackers for Houston that are making that more of a challenge. And if you're trying to be explosive on the perimeter or even getting some of those like gimme pickup yards and conversions or yak plays that Cooper Cup kind of came alive with last last week as well. You're gonna have a hard time against the secondary. Everything is going to be difficult. You have to run the ball better, and.

00:42:58
Speaker 1: That's where you want to win against Houston too, because the tackles Charles Cross and Abe Lucas have played great, especially protecting Sam Bradford. But if you're going to pick a weakness, it probably has been their interior, even even drafting Gray's Abel.

00:43:10
Speaker 6: In terms of what.

00:43:12
Speaker 2: Sam Bradford made it play, it's a walk show.

00:43:15
Speaker 6: Sam Bradford and Sam Dard sitting here for hours.

00:43:18
Speaker 1: To me, I always always used to mix up, and now Darnold is just taking it to another level. That the two thousand and what year was it eleven?

00:43:27
Speaker 7: The year Sam brad parking lot, you know, yeah.

00:43:30
Speaker 2: A smelling spelling the sense.

00:43:35
Speaker 4: In the run game more of the past game, because I think back because one of those late defensive collapses by the Texans Greg was the performance by Baker and the box offense, which was really just Bucky Irving as well as Rashad White making guys miss on that final drift. So perhaps Zach Charberney as well as Kenneth Walker will need to make some plays in this one to our final game, we go, you changed the locations and this would be the ultimate revenge game. But it is the New Orleans Saints at the Chicago Bears, who are favored by five and a half points. The over unders forty six and a half. Kevin Coogler, Daryl Johnston, and Alison Williams will be there, Steve as we get the Dennis Allen opportunity.

00:44:18
Speaker 5: All old Dame Dennis. Dennis, he was more motivated than this. Dennis is gonna be like.

00:44:25
Speaker 2: He We're punching it out. We're gonna get five takeaway.

00:44:28
Speaker 3: Chewingham furiously on the sideline.

00:44:31
Speaker 5: Look but with the Spears defense though, I mean it's funny Watson gets Washington, which is a better team, but.

00:44:39
Speaker 2: They make some freaking plays. Man.

00:44:40
Speaker 5: I mean this pick right here that we're seeing on video, that was a spectacular play. The way that they showed him, the athleticism and speeding tenacity. I like the way they played. Now they're they're vulnerable time, but sweat coming in the rush. I just think this he Da like, no mercy, no mercy. But again their defense has been gashed a bit of time, but not by Spencer Ratlers, who hasn't been bad by the way, Well.

00:45:08
Speaker 6: No, he's been good.

00:45:09
Speaker 1: And you know he was there with with DA, like a lot of this team. I mean, there's revenge games all over the place. Chris o'lave was essentially sold out by Day when he basically chose Derek Carr over Chris o'lave in kind of a public situation. Alvin Kamara and DA definitely were not eye to eye, And there was a report actually that Alvin Kamara indicated the Saints he does not want to be traded because they basically, I think are putting up a for sale sign on a lot of their players.

00:45:43
Speaker 6: I think Chris a lave might be one of them.

00:45:45
Speaker 1: But Kamara indicated reportedly to them that, like he wants to state, that would not be the case. I think if DA was the coach, well how about this part of the revenge game. Revenge might be the wrong word. But once upon a time, Spencer Rattler was you know, the number one high school recruit or whatever in the country. Yeah, and he was displaced by Caleb Williams, and now people are doing redrafts. Our friend Steven Ruiz at the ringer of the twenty twenty four draft, and this, this was this was a bold take. First, he had Drake may as the number one overall pick. That's not as bold, like, you know, you can make the argument for that that in there, you know, yeah, but that's number one. Interesting the hate of Jaden he had Caleb go appears he had Spencer Rattler going tenth overall Minnesota Vikings. Oh now in this redraft because that's the level that Rattler's playing at.

00:46:35
Speaker 7: I like that match too, day Yeah, wow.

00:46:40
Speaker 6: I think he is kind of playing like I like the team match.

00:46:44
Speaker 3: I like the team match.

00:46:45
Speaker 1: Let me say that, right, he's kind of playing like less maybe like a top ten overall pick, but more of like like the guy after the top three quarterbacks, Like who's played better this year?

00:46:54
Speaker 6: Bo Nix or Spencer Ratler. It's not Spencer Ratler for sure.

00:46:58
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's It's a good story because he he's the guy that all summer everyone's like, when is when is it no longer going to be his job?

00:47:05
Speaker 2: Right?

00:47:06
Speaker 6: Saints fans are calling for shock, which is crazy to me.

00:47:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, why, I don't get it.

00:47:11
Speaker 4: I don't understand because it seems like Kellen Moore started to figure out a little bit more of how he wants to utilize Spencer Rattler in this offense.

00:47:20
Speaker 2: They've used motion on seventy percent.

00:47:22
Speaker 4: How about up their plays and they they gained the ninth fewest yards in the entire league when they don't use motions.

00:47:30
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe that's seventy percent should go up.

00:47:32
Speaker 7: Kellen Moore got out of Philly, where they apparently hate motion, and it was like, I'm free, let me go run him around.

00:47:40
Speaker 4: Ye Rashid Chris get in motion and Olave has the fourth highest target rate among receivers this year.

00:47:48
Speaker 6: So Rattler's loading up. Chris o'lave not working well, he's having his work.

00:47:51
Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's not The roster needs so much help. They need to develop as a coaching staff. The defense needs help. They're going to start replacing some of these older place with these younger players who are coming up to see what they've got. It is interesting, though, I want to point this out. On the other side, something important that I think we saw from Chicago earlier in this last game. Calm situational awareness. Yes, they were playing for the field goal for the one point win. Don't necessarily love that, but hey, you take them where you can get them. And I like the end of game management between Ben Johnson and specifically Caleb Williams, how he's calming everyone down in the huddle. He's reminding everybody, you know, what their assignments are, should this happen, should that happen. You can hear some of it on the micd up. It just we are not that far removed from a Chicago team in tight late game scenarios that require some situational finesse by both the coach and the quarterback. Of which way are they going to lose this week?

00:48:58
Speaker 9: Right?

00:48:58
Speaker 3: Right?

00:48:58
Speaker 7: And I see so much positive progress made out of this Bears team. They maneuvered around their offensive line, the guards are playing good. Jonah Jackson looked awesome for the first time in really a while.

00:49:13
Speaker 3: He's had some struggles in his career.

00:49:14
Speaker 7: They switched around, They got a guy back on the right side, they switched around the left side.

00:49:18
Speaker 3: Like this is it's starting to come together for Chicago.

00:49:22
Speaker 2: It's starting to come together.

00:49:23
Speaker 5: And you know, we sat here, it's gonna take some time, but we know how incredibly talented Kayla Williams. And so you're starting to see that come out clearly. The connection with Roma Dunes. He's there, right, He's get some stuff going with Loveland. That's that's here and there. But if Swift continues to play, he stays on the field and continues to play the way they played Chicago's is interesting. I'm glad you mentioned the offensive line because what they did to Washington late okay, when they were able to hit the edges over and over, like you heard me talk about how dan Quinn's gonna be just furious about seeing that. But to play by the tackles and the pulling linemen to hook the defender in the spring Swift like that.

00:50:02
Speaker 2: They keep doing that, you keep opening the offense. You can go here here, then you can work it inside. Then he got a quarterback and can get it downfield.

00:50:07
Speaker 6: They could be very dangerous, I mean on the edge.

00:50:10
Speaker 1: How about a little shout out to the Canadian egole theo Bennettt. Yeah, going to UBC in Canada, little Canadian representation. They choose him as the left tackle coming out of the by. And I was talking about that with the Texans, like show us your work coming out of the by. The Bears on both sides of the ball. Suddenly their run defense was tough and look better, and they're healthier, Their linebackers are healthier. Kyler Gordon is in there that that is part of it. And then on the offensive side, they suddenly ran the ball, and I like, man, I want to I'm rooting for the Saints in this game.

00:50:42
Speaker 6: I want to pick them in this game.

00:50:44
Speaker 1: But I just feel like the biggest mismatch is Ben Johnson versus Brandon Staley in this defense. And I saw I thought it last week too with McDaniels and he had him cooking, especially in that early script where he just kind of knew what the Saints defense was going to do and they took advantage.

00:50:59
Speaker 2: Of real quick.

00:50:59
Speaker 5: I mean this, this brings up a point, and I think we look all around the what teams are mature enough to handle this?

00:51:05
Speaker 6: Right there?

00:51:05
Speaker 5: In can Atlanta, which came out of the by like Gangbusters? Can they handle not going to San Francisco? Right Can the Bears coming off an ice min night when go down to New Ords? Are they mature enough to handle it? This is where we're gonna get some tells about some teams. Greg, you mentioned big mismatches. We got a five one. We got a fine one because we need to survive as a family. We again are undefeated, and I have a suggestion for you. Okay, the Denver Broncos at home against Jacksonville.

00:51:32
Speaker 6: No, don't like it. I feel like the Giants are you know, pick the Patriots. No, don't want that either.

00:51:41
Speaker 1: On the road, our method has been to just take the team playing the benk Yeah, it's it's a Thursday night football game, but we're taping this on Wednesday. There's no rule saying that we can't.

00:51:55
Speaker 6: Have you seen the last two Thursday night football.

00:51:57
Speaker 1: Games, but they have been crazy, but that doesn't impact.

00:52:01
Speaker 7: Can't you see how much Patrick cares about this?

00:52:04
Speaker 1: We could we could do the chief together. We have yet to choose the Chiefs this season. We could just survive and do that that way, or we could stay consistent and go believe in the Aaron Rodgers Steelers.

00:52:18
Speaker 6: That's a little tricky too.

00:52:21
Speaker 2: Are you.

00:52:22
Speaker 1: This is your first show that you've sat in for both. I mean it was a big get AFC NFC. I give you the tie breaking honors here, the tie breaking honors.

00:52:33
Speaker 3: I think, oh I didn't get to submit once break.

00:52:35
Speaker 1: I thought you wanted you didn't like the Chiefs. I thought you liked the Broncos.

00:52:38
Speaker 3: No, I want Patriots picking the Patriots.

00:52:42
Speaker 2: Right, that's what I was going to go as well. No, No, if you're taking it seriously as I were accused of.

00:52:49
Speaker 6: Not, I am.

00:52:50
Speaker 1: I think they could lose that game. Absolutely, Nope, Nope, he's mad. I don't think he's serious.

00:52:57
Speaker 6: I am serious.

00:52:57
Speaker 3: I don't think you take this game seriously enough. I'm kind of disappointed.

00:53:00
Speaker 6: I am taking it so serious.

00:53:02
Speaker 1: Called road team, fired coach and a team getting a lot of love with the number there, but beneath the surface and they're like twentieth overall in Dvoa. And you're telling me that's a better pick than the Chiefs at home against the Raiders.

00:53:17
Speaker 3: I want to feel something, all right.

00:53:20
Speaker 2: Don't do it man, No, all right, but if we.

00:53:25
Speaker 1: Lose this, okay, Greg ros I take that responsibility like.

00:53:30
Speaker 3: He doesn't responsibility. He doesn't care.

00:53:33
Speaker 1: Everyone has been showing up to the players only meeting that are not required time, and they're on time. Weiss is there early, He's taken notes. The leadership here is great. Thursday night Football, it'll be Nick Schook and Eye. That's the next show. In your feed. We will see you then