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Speaker 1: I was actually just a game. I think it was Game four. It was in New York. I was there actually with fan Duel. I was up in their suite, you know, shooting some content, making some bets in the game, and that at Mispear in New York at Madison Square Garden was absolutely electric. My man, I'm talking. I never seen a basketball game like that. The garden in Boston is always electric, but it was like another level, you know, in New York City. I feel like because they haven't been in the playoffs or that far and so long, and they're also facing the reigning champs and they did win that game as well. So New York is popping. But I'm not a Knicks fan. I'm a Celtics fan. Actually not really. I don't really have a true NBA team because I grew up in Buffalo. But I'm cheering for Oklahoma Thunder right now. I just watched Game seven versus No, I'm not going next.

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Speaker 3: I was just giving them credit for the A And it doesn't feel like they fan base is psychotic and psychotic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the last game they just played, they beat the ship out of the Celtics team like eighty four or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Something was down. Brown has like a torn mc l gus had like an illness. Yeah, football injuries. Yeah, they just don't know how to work because they're not football.

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Speaker 4: To get that sish figuring out baby, and also Timothy Shallamane. You see that guy sitting outside the s u V.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the videos after the game, like outside Timothy Charlemagne and then like there's some face what I think you said it nice Charlemagne. Yeah, Charlotte Charlamagne.

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Speaker 1: That's a hard name to say. You don't want me to.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, they're throwing like trash bags at him. Who is that? Was that a Celtics fan?

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Speaker 1: That was an Indiana Pacers fan and he was wearing the star player's name. What's Hallan Burton? Sure, yeah, Halim Burton's jersey, and they're throwing trash cans and everything at him.

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Speaker 3: And everybody.

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Speaker 1: The northeast, which was wild. That's too much, man, just because he's wearing the jersey around the city and you're attacking home. I mean it was one verse like a thousand. The guy just had to walk away in shame. But I think that's too much to start throwing trash at like a random fan that's just wearing another jersey something in the middle of the streets. A lot. I kind of love it, you do.

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Speaker 4: I do, because it's just like it adds to me for the entertainment. I don't think we should ever hurt somebody, We should never be hateful. Checkbox, checkbox, check box. But I also think like when fan bases are that nasty, you talk about like the Philodelphy Eagles, like that adds to the storyline of all the teams playing and the last time they played X, Y and Z happened. Like I think it's good for sports and the culture and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: There's a place for just as long as it doesn't leads pulling out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, stabbing fights and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people getting stabbed, but that's usually what it leads to.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, if we can just throw a nice bag of trash or somebody and then maybe chest like bump chest a couple of times, push each other.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll move on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll take that every day of the week.

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Speaker 1: Throw a couple of fists. Yeah it was this couple.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, keep it classic. Well, since we're showing the basketball thing, Kington Clark, Angel Reaes, where do you stand on that?

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Speaker 1: I'm a Caitlin Clark fan.

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Speaker 3: Are you really where do you have you?

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Speaker 4: Do you see this past weekend?

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Speaker 3: I see all the Internet's blowing up about it, and may it's something like.

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Speaker 1: I really do think that Angel Reese does not like Caitlin Clark. Definitely.

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Speaker 3: That's probably a competitive rivalry, but everybody tries to make it about some race thing storyline.

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Speaker 1: But the first time I'm a Caitlin Clark fan because I actually just hearing a lot about her when she was at Iowa. What was it, I think her second last year when they when she was playing in all the games. No, I think it was her last year, and I haven't seen her play yet. And then she was in the tournament and I finally watched a game in the tournament and she was just shooting threes up like she was Steph Curry, and she was just sinking them from like five feet past the three point line. That's when I became a big fan, just watching her first game in the tournament and I was just thrilled watching her and I was I was in shock just how smooth she was too, with all her passes, the way she dribbled, and the way she shot. And then ever since then, I became a big fan of her game. And now I follow her through the w NBA and I follow that whole beef angel rees Caitlyn Clark, and I think Caitlyn Clark is on the pedestal of being top dog in the NB and the WNBA and Angel Reese, I feel like he's just a little bit jealous. I think when we tell about yeah, right, not to go way back to then, Kaitlyn.

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Speaker 4: Clark being as good as she is is one thing. So she comes in as a big jump in the in the viewership in the w n B A but that wouldn't be sustainable if there wasn't the Angel Reeses adding to like the hate now we have this big rival were going on. So next time they play, the seats were filled for that game, And I just think it's attention to the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I agree, you need Angel Reese to have this hatredg uh to Kitlyn Clark and all these other players to keep getting that attention that the w NBA actually deserves as well. And it's working. You know, if they were all for Kaitlyn Clark. Oh, she's such a good player, she's so sweet to play again. I'm gonna let her shoot her three pointer. I'm not going to contest it. Oh, since she's getting elbows thrown at her, people are loving that, and people love physicality in sports. That's what fans love. That's why hockey's back all the fighting when with the four nations everyone's throwing elbows at each other the checks. That's why the NBA is kind of back in the playoffs right now because the referees are letting all that physicality, you know, just go on. They're getting physical again in the pain and they're throwing elbows. They're playing hard, and fans love to see that. And that's why football is the greatest sport because every play is physically you're getting thirty every single play.

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Speaker 4: Before we go any further, could we just get a quick moment of sounds from my beloved Toronto Maple Leafs. Thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 1: You know that was tough for me because I'm from Buffalo. I'm a big Buffalo Savers fans. Toronto Maple Leafs was our rival really, you know, throughout my whole childhood, especially Ti Domi versus Rob Ray, all those fights back in the day. I love both of them just getting after it. Yes, but I didn't really want to give that moment of silence.

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Speaker 4: I will say this, if we can, we can be nasty about Toronto. Now they're in Game seven, in the biggest game in your franchise's history since nineteen sixty seven when you actually won the Cup. Disgusting display of effort. The boys were did not want it yesterday in the first period, zero zero. Then all of a sudden, I go to start putting my kids down. I pop up the YouTube TV as I'm laying on the ground as they're falling asleep, and they're just getting throwed them badly.

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Speaker 3: Three goals within ten minutes.

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Speaker 4: And they just got after them over and over and over again. I mean they killed a great penalty after the first period, and then well it was a Wall. He was a goalie, correct, he became a sieve in those last two periods and it was just tough, dude, tough.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know, history repeats itself, and I think the Toronto Maple Leafs had folded and basically every game seven in the last five six years, right in the playoffs. So I actually did my first NHL bet on FanDuel sports book last night. I bet two hundred dollars on the Florida Panthers just beating the Toronto Maple Leafs straight up, and I won. Let me pull it up, man, I'm not telling you. It was my first I ever made world Taylor put five. That must have not worked. H yeah, yeah, yeah, my head Florida. Yeah yeah, so I kind of wish you won now and then we kind.

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Speaker 4: Of like Taylor a lot more and got his.

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Speaker 1: A let me go. It was actually my first bat in the state of Tennessee too, which is really cool. All right right here, Tennessee Saddle. Look at that Florida Panthers toll wager two hundred dollars one three forty.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look at that. I just check it out.

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Speaker 4: I did see that. I saw that on Twitter last night. And I'm just thinking to myself, God, damn it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just watching. I was doing the same thing Scott.

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Speaker 4: Right now, my last my last four bets with the Toronto maple Leafs have gotten murdered, and I had Toronto a futures bet on them. We're in the Eastern Conference finals, and obviously that's not going to come come together anymore. That's now dead.

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Speaker 3: Biz has been such a like a you know, voice for the Leafs. And then you've obviously been riding with the Leaves too, so knowing that they were in a game seven when I was just watching the last night, she says, like a you know, non hockey guy, just watching as a as a fan of the love of the game, for the love of the game, a game seven going on, it did seem like Florida was just playing at a different speed, just bullying, bullying the maple Leafs.

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Speaker 4: I had clump on phone with a bunch of people from FanDuel setting up something when they won this game. I wasn't gonna go to a game in Toronto. Yeah, check it out, get the environment. See that's all about sure enough, man. They shipped the bed and everyone told me Toronto is like the Dallas Cowboys of hockey. Like they're like the biggest, most well known franchise. They sell the most jerseys, they make the most money, blah blah blah. And I thought, that's great. I'll get behind them. It'll be a fun fan base to play with. Little did I know if they really are the Dallas Cowboys. Those ship the bed in the playoffs, and that's what just happened. Yeah, tough, tough, slick.

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Speaker 3: There was one two like when it was zero zero after the first period, I was like, I wonder if because you could notice that Florida was just out playing them the whole time, even though it was zero zero. Hang around and the least might just pull something off. But then they just started to just put their face in the pillow.

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Speaker 4: Austin Matthews, the Scotts, the Arizona guy captain. I was like, man, I need an Arizona boy. They're running for us, but now we got to chuck good chuck for the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my favorite player in the NHR, though, is the Adminton Oilers going blank? Yeah, David, I mean I love skates around just to spenders ice to ice, you know, lying to line and just goes around everyone. I'm cheering for him. I'm hoping that minto the Oilers win it all. Plus, I feel like the NHL needs a Canada the team to you know, win it. It's been so long, and I think that will bring hockey back in a way, even though you know, yeah, even though we're beefing a little bit anywhere, yeh, Canada. I think it would be Yeah, I think it would be really good if Edmonton Oilers win it for the NHL.

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Speaker 3: Just for the sport, the attention and everything exactly.

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Speaker 1: And on top of it, on top of speaking about hockey, my brother texted me this morning. He goes, you have to let because I was like, I'm going on with buzzing with the boys, and I didn't really know. I don't think he really knew. That's truly, you guys are like more of a football podcast. And he goes, you have to let them know. You're going to be in the hockey world soon with all your nephews. So I just want to give a shout out to all my nephews. They're up and coming in the hockey world right now. They're playing on the Buffalo Junior Sabers they're ballers and you'll be hearing a lot about them in the few my nephews. I told my brought I would get it in if somehow the hockey subject gets brought up. So there you go, brother and Jace Grayson. Keep dominating boys. You guys are gonna be lethal out there on the ice.

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Speaker 4: You play it all you in the skates. Being New York.

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Speaker 1: I love playing hockey, man. I grew up and played until ninth grade, and I stopped playing hockey because hockey and basketball were at the same time, and I just thought basketball was a better fit for me. And I kind of like basketball more at that time. But hockey was my favorite sport growing up.

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Speaker 3: Ye many, damn.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But think about this guy's hockey.

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Speaker 1: I was but left wing.

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Speaker 4: You who Charlie is? No, it's your wife.

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Speaker 3: Number one.

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Speaker 4: Number two is Danny Charro. He was a guy who played for the Boston Bruins. He's like six seven, he's like six eleven on skates. This he was Russian, right, this Russian guy who just beat the fun.

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Speaker 1: Out of people. It was it was not from the US, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was not from here. He wasn't from here, But the guy have like a hundred I think he did like one hundred and ten mile an hour slap shot because he used to do that. Like the All Star games, they would do all like the little challenges. His slap shot was insane.

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Speaker 1: This game literally like twenty three years in the NHL.

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Speaker 3: And just with body bag people of all time. Yeah, and that could have been six nine six nine. Were you nice up until you stopped playing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was nice. I was nice. If I get on skates now, I'm pretty slappy because it's been so long and you got to like be able to skate all the time in order to keep up with it. But I was nice, man, I only played up a level. I played with all my friends that were older than me. I love playing hockey, it was It was by far my favorite sport. And I was in Buffalo too, with all the ice rinks around. It was so good. I had one time scored ten goals in a game when it was it was house hockey. We were down ten to one and I ended up scoring ten goals in a row and tied it up and made it eleven eleven, and then we ended up losing twelve to eleven. That was I think squirts. You scored ten goals. It was ridiculous. It was one of the best performances of all time. I know.

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Speaker 4: It was just.

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Speaker 1: And then another time there was just there was this chick. She was this was travel hockey. There was this chick on the cheek the Wogga team I think it was. And this this is a pretty good story. And she was vicious, she was strong, and she always came after me to try and just deck me. And it was always a joke all around. We're playing the chick like, don't get leveled, and she came at me and I absolutely destriight it. I'm talking like she would go flying back like three feet, but she would get up and then next ship she would come full speed and try to deck me. One time she hit me pretty hard. She went flying back still though, but my helmet broke and my face mask went flying off me. So still to this day, my friends punked me about the time the chick absolutely rocked me and my face mask went flying off me. But then like literally like ten years later, when I got to the NFL whatever eight years later, however long it was I'm a rookie and she dms me on Facebook She's like, hey, Rob, remember I'm the girl that always attacked you in hockey, And I like lost my mind. I was showing all my friends that she said she's writing me messages. It was just it was just cool.

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Speaker 3: Big respect to her too, even though she got that.

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Speaker 4: She's trying to slide in the DMS after Yeah, oh he made it to the league. Rival she was your angel Reese and you're and then all of a sudden you make it to the league.

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Speaker 1: She's like shot out for just having the sack to just come at me. Yeah, yeah, every single I'm sure you.

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Speaker 4: Were an absolute unit at this time too. Still real.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was no Back in the day when I was playing hockey. Oh, fearless, fearless I played.

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Speaker 4: We had a much different stories. So I played hockey like when I was like eight or whatever it mights and it was right before checking and I house House got a hat trick. We won it. The next year pee wee's were doing like tryouts for a travel team, and I did not know checking was like starting right as the whistles blowing. Some guy who I believe in my head is still to this day he was six seven at eight years old.

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Speaker 1: He knocks me down.

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Speaker 4: I got off the ice.

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Speaker 1: I was done.

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Speaker 4: I wanted nothing to do with it, really wanted nothing.

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Speaker 1: To do with it. Was that the last time you skate?

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Speaker 4: That was the last time, you know, they say get back in the horse. No, I went that croom. I took my pads off. I retired that day. Dude, that was such a pussy growing.

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Speaker 1: Well then, what what got you into football? If you couldn't handle no idea? How did you get into football? I was the kid.

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Speaker 3: I was the kid that was like even hated baseball. I think, yeah, hit with the ball and I.

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Speaker 4: Would steps me yes, I would step out of the batter's box and like kind of swing like this.

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Speaker 1: I was one of those that bats up when the pitchers coming, he bats up three feet in that was mere feet. Yeah, I was because they're so scared, so scared. Those kids drove me crazy. Yeah, yeah, that was you would have you would have hated. Yeah, Like when did that switch? Probably probably like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a good little hair on my sack and I was like, you know what, this physicality thing is not bad. I like went from doing sports like from five to eleven twelve thirteen, I did my whole like X games, like Metal, Militia, Travis Pastrana, Niter Circuit's life and then I got a little bit of trouble. My dad's like, you got to play football. And we went and played football one state my sophomore year at nose Tackle, and from then on I was like, Yo, I'm obsessed with football.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. Is that the dog? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That Ralph If people who are able to see Ralphie down here, we got Yeah, we got a little friend.

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Speaker 4: They squirrel noises in the corner over here.

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Speaker 1: He's a good boy. He's actually been on TV before. He was in the USAA commercial with me. Oh, this guy is a superstar.

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Speaker 3: He's enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: There are some there's some French bulldog haters on this bus.

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Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, who would that be?

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Speaker 3: Sniff him out?

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Speaker 1: You're talking about yourself? No, yeah, you look like one of those white Frenchies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I got an English bulldog.

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Speaker 1: At home, all right, that's like a French bulldog. That's the grandfather. Yeah, we're part of the bulldog world. Yeah. Yeah, like I said, yeah, you do you look but go ahead, English bulldog a tough you can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't let you guys be talking up.

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Speaker 4: I don't hate Frenchies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not opposed to him.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little bit opposed to him.

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Speaker 1: So it's him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one one, So this is you're a guy. I'm not a French.

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Speaker 1: You guy.

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Speaker 4: I think got a good coat on him.

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Speaker 1: He's got good broad.

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Speaker 4: Shoulders, got a nice coat on the boy. Looks like got a piece on him too.

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Speaker 1: About these balls that haven't I haven't seen around Ralph there is nickname is Ralph.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to make him uncomfortable, but yeah, yeah, good looking dog. I just.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good boy.

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Speaker 4: This is a tough start to me in this podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know, walk off the bus, bus driver, open up the door. Ralph and I getting off. We're going for a walk. Yeah, we're gonna have to think about this. We need to take a couple of deep prests.

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Speaker 4: Aren't these guys like made in the lab? Like, aren't they like not?

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Speaker 1: I know that that is one thing that they say about it. I just kind of plugged my ears. When people start.

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Speaker 4: They got a lot of health issues too.

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Speaker 1: Right, a lot of health issues. But this guy, he stays in top shape. But he's pretty healthy. It's crazy, but majority of them, I mean, for how healthy he is, it's still like a full time job just making sure that he's healthy. But uh, you know, you got to keep him active. If you don't keep them active, then that's when all the health problems definitely really start.

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Speaker 4: Put them on the treadmill.

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Speaker 1: There's their personalities are through their roof. They're like human beings. They're the best to be one on one with them. They're they're just so entertaining and loving.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome having for you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you man, You're happy.

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Speaker 4: That's it, bro, That's all I can do off the bus. Dude, let's talk about growing up.

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Speaker 1: So you grew up in like Taylor he ran over y yeah bah dah. So you group in Buffalo with me? Guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I gave him a shot out, you know, a good guy like.

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Speaker 4: Surgeon.

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Speaker 1: I had some you know, vitamins this morning, some na D to make sure I'm clear minded. So thank you to Arete.

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Speaker 4: Yeah in dude, Buffalo, you grew up in Buffalo. How do you head the Tucson, Arizona?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 4: Was it dirt bas Uh?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't dirt bags, but it should have been dirt bags. Actually, I'd never been to dirt bags before until I actually went to the NFL, and then I was old enough. When I came back on a visit. Uh, after my rookie year, I was twenty one, so I finally got to go to dirtbacks. I didn't hit any bars when no, no, I really awed to. I mean, I would admit it like no big deal. I didn't hit any bars. When I was at the University of Arizona. It was literally all house parties or going to a frat party or having our own house party, or just running around the streets just trying to get into a bar, but not getting into the bar because I was, you know, never of age. But so my brothers were getting recruited out of high school. And my brother Chris, who's two years older than me, well, first off, my dad's in the business of selling fitness equipment. He's been in the business for thirty five years now. And then he became best friends with a guy named Donnie who did the same thing as him, that was an alumni at the University of Arizona but sold all his equipment in Arizona. So then you know, they go on a work trip where Life Fitness brings everyone because they both sell Life Fitness products. And then what is it like a fitness convention and then that's where they met and they became best friends. And then when we were all just kids, so the alumni Arizona was like, bring your kids out to Arizona. I know the coaches, I'll get them, you know, I'll try to get them a scholarship, show them the film, bring them out on a trip. Come on, we got to get it done. So I went on a trip with my brother when he was a senior when he went to the University of Arizona, and my dad was like, hey, you're up next in line, Like, come on the trip, see what it's all about to get recruited. Uh, And then the University of Arizona was the very first cool I basically ever seen in my life, and I fell in love with the place. My sophomore year in high school. I was like, this is a college. This is this is ridiculous. I mean, it's ninety degrees, palm trees. We went by a pool party and like, as a sophomore year, you know in high school, you're like home.

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Speaker 3: Market out in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those Arizona schools ASU, U of AS and the nuts exactly.

00:23:26
Speaker 1: And then that's how that's how I got to University of Arizona. I fell in love with it when I just tagged along with my brother on his recruiting trip, and then they started recruiting me from there. After my brother chose to go to the University of Maryland. Then he actually transferred to the Universe of Arizona and played with me there for two years, and he was the full back and I was a tight end and we were on the field at the same time for a year, which was just super cool to have and just ball out with my brother. So that's how I got there. Long story show show.

00:23:53
Speaker 3: You were Were you highly recruited coming out of high school?

00:23:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a four star. I was in the Rivals top two, one hundred and fifty. I was like the fifth tight end on the board. He was. Fernandez was actually number one. Really yeah, we were in the same class. He was number one, and then there's a couple in between. I forgot who they were, but they never made it to the NFL, I don't think. But it was, you know, it was, you know, the whole entire recruiting process I went through. It was you know, enjoyable because my top four, you know were Ohio State, Clemson, Syracuse, and Arizona, and everyone was just so surprised that I, you know, chose Arizona to go all the way out west. But I just fell in love with that place from the very beginning. Loved Clemson almost went there. That was definitely number two. Ohio State, you know, they were recruiting me. I kind of just took a visit there because it was the Ohio State University, and I could definitely see myself fitting in there, you know, I can can see myself being a Buck guy. That's when Jim Trussell was the head coach too. The facilities were insane as well. And then Syracuse my dad went to, but the program was just so on low at the time. Yeah, and I just kind of wanted to get out of the state of New York. I didn't want to go back to, you know, basically home where I grew up in Buffalo, So Arizona was just a right thing.

00:25:09
Speaker 3: Don't you have a legendary story from your Ohio State visit?

00:25:12
Speaker 1: Yes, I do.

00:25:13
Speaker 3: To where you were? What was it you were hungover?

00:25:15
Speaker 1: I was super hungover. So I was a senior. I moved to Pittsburgh my senior year in high school, so it was an easy trip, uh, to go over, you know, to Ohio State when they were recruiting me and then all my friends for Buffalo. They were all older than me and some of them went to the Ohio State University. So I took my official visit there and I went out with my friends the night before the game and they showed me around. We actually got in a fight, which wasn't surprising. That was my last time I basically brought. I used to fight all the time when I was a senior in high school because I was visiting my brothers at the University of Maryland and they were just bad ass motherfuckers, him and his roommates and they were just brawl every weekend. I would show up and just joined, Hey, Rob, we want to go get this one in. We literally walked from the bar and just trying to pick a fight. On the way home, I was running into people on purpose, and then next thing you know, it was a five on five brawl. I was getting thrown down a hill. My brother kicked the guy in the face. Next thing I know, I look up the hill and the guy's falling down the hill. That threw me down the hill. But I got in a little fight. It wasn't that big of a fight at the at the Ohio State it was just a little, you know, scuffle and uh. But we had a good time. And the next morning went to the game. I think that was Ohio State Versus I forgot who they were playing, but I was hurting.

00:26:34
Speaker 4: Look at this guy, the guy in the bottom all the waters and I have yea.

00:26:38
Speaker 3: All the wad Oho State. Did any of the staff know that you had got in a fight the night before?

00:26:43
Speaker 1: No, no, no clue, no clue. It wasn't that big of a fight. It wasn't worth, you know, being in the news either. It wasn't newsworthy. It wasn't really Like there's no like phones back then, which was the best time. I'm so glad none of that ship existed like when I was in college, Like it was an era of like the South. The camera phones were just beginning when I was in college. But like that absolutely sucks to be a superstar in college right now. You can't like really live a college life because everyone has those camera phones. If you go out, you know, to a house party, you're's gonna be filmed. Like that's not cool at that age.

00:27:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's suck.

00:27:17
Speaker 1: You really can't have that true college experience. And I feel like I was that last era to be able to do all the crazy shit without ever being on like a cell phone or being like reported to Twitter. Plus I wasn't as good as you know. I was in the NFL as I was in college. I was a good player, but it's not like you know, people knew me like that. I could ride around you.

00:27:36
Speaker 4: But you chose to leave early.

00:27:37
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I left early as well.

00:27:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got to be pretty damn good to be able to enter your name into the dream.

00:27:42
Speaker 1: Yeah. Which sucked because I didn't even play my junior year really yeah, which sucked. I was about the ball out man. I was ready to go my junior year. Nick Foles with our quarterback. We had a solid team. We went eight and four that year. My brother was to fall back as well, so it sucked. I complete with my brother, my friends with Foles, we were bawling spring game as well. I'd like eight catches for like one hundred in the spring game and that was the first time that we even played together, Foles and I. And then I just blew out my back. Bro. I had that micro with the second me surgery where I think it was just just going to ham in college lifting, doing all the other you know, extra activities as well, and then I just had a major bulging disc and I just kept going harder and harder on it, and like the harder I went on it, the more numb it would get. At that moment, and I was able to go out to practice and lift, and then like that night, I wouldn't be able to move, and the next day I would just go hard on it again, and eventually I blew it out totally, like I couldn't even feel my legs anymore when I was nineteen years old. And then it sucked because I had to get the surgery that and then finally I was like, yo, my back's fucked up. And then I even went out the training camp and got open on an in route, ran so slow, but the well it opened up, the defense opened up, and I caught the pass, turned around like one mile prour and I walked off the field. I was like, yo, I'm fucked like and then we were finally like, all right, let's get an MRI. And my back was blown out. The disc was so hurt, neated on the spinal court. And then eventually I got the surgery and missed my junior year, which you know, if I could go back, that's one thing I would do, is if I wish I could replay my junior year and play at the University of Arizona. But I still left early, still left early.

00:29:16
Speaker 3: Yes, had a good couple of first years.

00:29:18
Speaker 1: Then I did what was crazy is my freshman year going in, I had six touchdowns, you know, like five hundred something yards. I was bawling. But then going into my sophomore year, I was like, I'm ready to dominate. You know, it's kind of like the NFL. You know, you're getting your feet wet. I didn't really know the playbook that well, you know, adjusting to life, trying to you know, do the dumb shit off the field as well, that was more important time it was. It was really more important to me. I'm not gonna it was probably just as important as football was to me. Was going out and acting like an idiot, you know, rookie year in the NFL and freshman year of college. I mean, you can't blame eighteen years old. Twentyyears old.

00:30:00
Speaker 4: I had a place like U of A too.

00:30:01
Speaker 1: And then going into my sophomore I'm ready to dominate. I get mono, I get monos somehow, and I'm like.

00:30:09
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:30:10
Speaker 1: And I had to miss the first three games because they's like, oh, your spleen's blown up, you know you gotta miss So I missed three games my sophomore year. True sophomore year, came back and played like what is it you missed three was twelve games and the season played nine games, had like ten touchdowns and balled out. And then we went to the Las Vegas Ball which was which was my last game I played at the University of Arizona. And that was the year my brother and I played together and he had a great game. I only had like, you know, twenty yards that bowl game, but we won. It was the first bowl game that the University of Arizona even went to in ten years, and we won it. And then that was my last last game as a Wildcat. But overall, I played sixteen games in college and had sixteen touchdowns as an eighteen year old, and nineteen.

00:30:55
Speaker 4: Year old is awesome.

00:30:57
Speaker 1: So I had enough film to get me, you know, afted in the second round.

00:31:01
Speaker 4: When you had the bulging discs and you got the MRI and like you can't even fill your legs. Did you think at any point that your career was over?

00:31:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I sure did. Actually I went and uh, actually I was lucky enough. I had an insurance policy. My dad got me an insurance policy going in my junior year because I was you know, I was kind of highly rated, you know that I could get drafted that year in like the top three rounds. So I had an insurance policy and I could have cashed out on it actually because they were saying I had spinal dunosis. What is it spinal? I wouldn't I wouldn't know spinal what's that word snosis? I'm saying dun nosis, spinal stunnosis, And like my spines curved and there was a lot of question marks on my back and they were like, oh, Like the insurance company was like, hey, you can never play football again if you get that policy, and I was like, I was like fuck that, I'm playing football. That was my ultimate dream. I always wanted to be in the NFL. I'll just work through this. But at some points trying to come back because that was my first surgery, like I couldn't really get that pop back because you lose that pop because the spinal corp is completely shut down, and like to get that pop, to get that explosive on this back. I was training. I left early. I was training for the combine, and right before the combine I didn't even participate in the combine because at that time I didn't even have that pop still, Like I couldn't even broad jo you just.

00:32:12
Speaker 4: Played high school football basically the.

00:32:14
Speaker 1: NFL, and then finally boom, I got it back. And then uh, you know, I kind of understood the recovery process and all that, and then I was finally like, all right, I can play again. I got this. But there was a little point like, man, I might not ever be able to play again because like you know that, you know, you've never been through that experience, you know. So I'm glad I got over that fear and over that stage because everything worked out, didn't year, No, not not one snap, you know, the.

00:32:41
Speaker 3: Last game of him officially like as a as a wildcat Nebraska.

00:32:47
Speaker 1: No, that was the year I didn't play. Brother, Was that a show? Were you on that team?

00:32:50
Speaker 3: I was a freshman, you were a freshman.

00:32:52
Speaker 1: So that was the year I didn't play the hollyball. We got smacked by you guys. You had gotten the dominicant sue at the time. He went what number two overall that year. But that was the year I got hurt. And if I didn't get hurt, we would have watched your ass, brother, but I think we actually we would.

00:33:08
Speaker 3: Have been Yeah, dude, that yeah, nothing, yeah, thirty three to nothing.

00:33:15
Speaker 1: I was chilling, chilling. Yeah, you guys are chilling when you're I mean I was, I was young. Yeah, you us what you're a red shirting.

00:33:23
Speaker 3: This was my freshman red shirt year. Got you not my red shirt, not my red shirt year, but my second year.

00:33:29
Speaker 4: You re freshman year.

00:33:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was bad. We got wamped. I was there, though I was there, I didn't play that whole year. Man. It sucked. It sucks not playing, dude. Yeah, you're just staying there.

00:33:39
Speaker 3: It's fast.

00:33:40
Speaker 1: Was I was standing on.

00:33:42
Speaker 3: It's fascinating to me that he got draft in the second round and he only played sixteen games in college and he had back surgery, and I had all these question marks about it been going up to the combine, like in the pre draft process.

00:33:55
Speaker 1: And it didn't even participate at the combine. I did the bench press, got twenty three.

00:34:00
Speaker 3: And didn't you didn't he fall asleep in a draft interview?

00:34:04
Speaker 1: Yes, with the Patriots. Bill Yeah, Bill told this story plenty of times. This story's been talking about plenty. But I was so tired, man, because you know that draft process. I think it's the stupidest process as well. Like you go from team to team, it's like you're on fifteen flights in like fifteen days getting interviewed by all these teams, and the Patriots were my last one, and I was exhausted. I fell asleep like the first ten minutes I got there in the room that they put me in there like hey, we'll be right back, and I fell asleep on the spot when they came back in to check on me. And then I also bombed the interview process, but like bombed it in the best way possible.

00:34:38
Speaker 4: Something in the best way possible, all right, Like.

00:34:41
Speaker 1: For example, they drew a play on the board, Billy oh, and he's in then he raced it. He's like, draw the play? What you got? What does everyone have? And it was one of the hottest plays. It's still a route that I still don't even understand, olpak. It's like the receiver goes up and down back like a comeback, and then he goes takes off again and he makes another comeback something you know way.

00:35:00
Speaker 4: But it was like the longest progressive play way above.

00:35:03
Speaker 1: My you know, my skill set. I don't run routes like that. I don't stop go stop too big to stop and going. I was like what so he's like redraw the whole play, and I was like, brother, like I'm stuck, like I like ground zero. I'm at like and I was like, you know something, They'll just throw me the fucking boss still. Like like I was like that, like that type of interview, like you just say this is so that I would just come up with an insane answer like.

00:35:30
Speaker 4: That, yeah, just throw me the ball. Still.

00:35:33
Speaker 1: That's all I know.

00:35:34
Speaker 4: Did were you ever like nervous for these coaches because they have that kind of hey, just throw me the ball anyway, It just screams confidence.

00:35:40
Speaker 1: I was never really nervous because like.

00:35:43
Speaker 3: Standing up at the whiteboard with the marker in hand, trying to think, like ship, what was the play drew? And then just like hey.

00:35:49
Speaker 4: You get a double comeback. He's just talking about like I'm.

00:35:52
Speaker 3: Gonna be honest, I don't remember.

00:35:53
Speaker 1: But I was cashed out though. It was like my fifteen visit and like the last fifteen days, I was cashed out.

00:36:02
Speaker 4: And what were you You said you had fifteen visits. Of all the visits, like which one did do the best?

00:36:07
Speaker 1: It was probably about like eight visits or so fifteen was a little exaggerated like eight, but at fifteen including the Combine. Yeah, I've met with fifteen teams there, but you know, I felt like they all went really smooth. You know, I was on point with them all. You know. The Cincinnati Bengals one, I was. I really wanted to be on point because we all knew that they were going to draft a tight end first round and then they took Jermaine Gresham, but they were interviewing me like crazy. Now they had the twenty first pick. I felt like I smacked everything right on the money with all the questions, my interviews at the Combine. I felt like I did a great job and everything, but just overall just bombed the New orleand Patriots one like bombed it, like in the worst way possible. Like I said, like I like when Billy Ull and Bill described how the official visit was or it's not the official visit that's in high school. The interview visit went. But uh, you know, and also at the time, like there's so many players getting in trouble in the NFL, and I remember I called my brother, I was like, fuck this, I want to act like a complete idiot. I feel like it gets you like more chances, you know, because there was like five guys that were just arrested and they were signing big deals in the NFL. Yeah, they're like, oh, that's a good way to think about it and look at it. Use that theory, rob go.

00:37:24
Speaker 3: And it worked.

00:37:28
Speaker 1: It worked. Jones was getting arrested all the time.

00:37:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a crazy time.

00:37:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he signed a big deal and I was like, yeah, it was like, if you freaking act like a fucking insane motherfucker, you're going to get picked up.

00:37:41
Speaker 3: So it's crazy.

00:37:43
Speaker 1: I want the interview process like that. And it worked. You gotta be you gotta be nuts. You got to be tapped in order to play in the NFL as well.

00:37:52
Speaker 4: I think I think it depends in the position. Depends on the position. Like if you're a d end, a tight end, like wide receivers and corners, they have their own cocky personalities or stereotypical cocky personalities. Quarterbacks, I feel like you have to be composed, calm, confident individuals, but yeahschoic, like the psychotic tight end. Yeah, the psychotic tight end is you made a name for the for the brand you you you walked so that George Kittles could run because you've got a whole bunch of different guys now here crushing.

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00:39:13
Speaker 1: No, I was upset. It's my mom says that there's two times in my life that she's ever seen me upset. I forgot the second time. We got to give her a call if she told me I would remember, like it would be like that, but she's And the other time was not getting drafted in the first round. While I was at the draft in New York.

00:39:33
Speaker 4: City, Did you have all the cameras rounds you and everything.

00:39:35
Speaker 3: Not?

00:39:36
Speaker 1: Really, you know, it wasn't really expected for me to go in the first round. It was the first time, I like to say this, I was infamously, you know, drafted as the first player going to New York as the first player getting drafted at the draft in the second round. So that's how I look at it, as I started that trend. If you go to the draft, it's fine that you get drafted in the second round. Still, I was the first player to that to ever have that happen to But there was also other ones after me as well that year that got drafted in the second and third round. But you know, I was ticked off. I felt like I deserved to go in the first I was always a goal of mine. But after I got picked by the New England Patriots in the second round and they traded up for me, I thought that was really cool getting traded up for like, you know, it's unique and like you feel special about that. Situation. But once I got drafted, man, I didn't care one single bit anymore that you know, I wasn't a first rounder. It was it was a blessing and it was one of the best feelings of all time that you know, could ever happen to you.

00:40:32
Speaker 3: Knowing that the expectation wasn't necessarily for you to go in the first round. What made you decide to still go to like New York and be potentially around the cameras and everything when it's it's a possibility that you might not go in the first round.

00:40:42
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't really look at it as like, oh, I got to be a first rounder because they drafty. They actually brought in a lot of other players as well that were expected to go in the second round. So it wasn't like I was gonna, you know, feel uncomfortable there, gotcha. So there was like five other players that didn't get drafted. Again, it was its first year, like, hey, we want first rounders and second rounders at the draft. We want to expand it. We want to show the inside, you know, for both rounds, not just the top ten picks. So they expanded how many players they invited to the draft, and it was about like twenty five guys there, so like twenty five guys aren't going in the first round. That's too hired to be able to balance at to know who's going where. So I didn't care. I thought it was cool. And being you know, twenty years old, you know, you look for the spotlight then, you know, and whenever you're going to invite, you take it. You know at that age. Now these days you pick and choose, like I got to go do that in front of the camera, You're like, ah, whatever, you know, but when you're twenty years old, you love all those moments. You're never saying no at twenty years old. So I was definitely not going to say no to that situation. And you know, being at the draft, you know that as a kid, that's all you look forward to, you know, watching all the players get drafted, like that could be me. I just got the invite, you know, I wasn't not going to guys standing up there a hole in the jersey shaking Goodell's hand exactly.

00:41:57
Speaker 3: That's badass.

00:41:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

00:41:59
Speaker 4: It's awesome. Did you did you plan the celebration that you do with your family, because it is it's got to be number one.

00:42:05
Speaker 1: It is epic and you know it's still talked about to this day. Definitely, But that's just how we were, you know. You know, that's how we party at the University of Arizona. We got around, who are I jump up and down, get rowdy, all that good stuff, and whenever we get together as a family, it was just bringing all the energy and juice to the table. So we knew we were going to be celebrating, but not to the extent of like putting the helmets on, putting my hand down versus my brother, you know, getting in a circle and hooing all over the place. So that was just on the spot right there. That was cool. It was good man.

00:42:37
Speaker 3: You talked about comparing like saying that you're off the field life was just as important to you as on the field. Was that How long did that carry into your NFL career?

00:42:47
Speaker 1: I would say just a couple of years. I mean I started realizing that football, you know, is definitely number one in my life, and that football, you know, needs to be number one. Like I can't be putting football aside. I can't be putting the training aside just because I want to go out hang out with the friends be busting with the boys, and you know at whatever college I'm visiting my buddies at because I left college early, so after my rookie year, all my friends were still in college, you know. So I'm visiting Miami, Ohio, which home. My gosh, going out there. That place is crazy, rocking bro. I got my jersey up at Brick Street still. I mean, I'm a legend there. I'm visiting pool parties. Look at those pictures. So I'm going Ham. At least I'm going so Ham. I was getting exercise while I was going Ham. I was staying in shape. I was burning at least a thousand to two thousand calories just dancing the three four hour period of going out. But I realized that football has to be number one, though, and football is going to sustain that, you know, the extra activities as well. And so if I keep the football, you know, activities and football all you know, skills at the highest level, everything else is always going to be there. I learned that about two three years into the league.

00:44:06
Speaker 3: What made you come to this realization? Was it a conversation with the teammate, just s, family members, your.

00:44:11
Speaker 1: Experience of showing up the football and being deteriorated and sucking and being out of shape and wind ind the puke and feeling like every single one of your muscles are gonna spas them out there on the field or pull and like yeah, it's like miserable and you're like, yeah, I shouldn't be out here right now. And you got to work your way through it because you got to show that you know, you're doing the proper things. You know, But when when you hit you know, real life, when you hit that realization on the field of it's not going well, you know, that's when you know you got to tune things up and you got to change whatever whatever you're doing. I mean, I'm sure you experienced that before at least once or twice.

00:44:51
Speaker 3: Did your realization that football has to be the main thing? Yeah, oh absolutely. Everyone has pretty young for me, because you know they're hearing about the stories that you have. I just I think in my head, like, I don't know how I would function as an athlete in college if I like my night life was just right there. I put as much into my night life as I did football, So I feel like it just wouldn't I don't know, I feel like it genetically it wasn't. It wouldn't have worked for me.

00:45:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:45:15
Speaker 4: Well, hearing the way you talk about it, it sounds like you were like practicing and then after practice you're like, Okay, what are we going to do tonight? And for me, like I have partied a lot in college in my first couple of years in the NFL, but it was always to me like I'd act like in my brain, I'd be like, I'm not going to go out this weekend. Then accidentally, all of a sudden, I'd It'd be two am on a Saturday and I'd be up at Losers or Rick's American Cafe in Ann Arbor. It seemed like you were like, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna work really hard at football so I can go party and get the most out of that.

00:45:42
Speaker 1: There we go. That's exactly how it went, no doubt about it. And also going out in the party, it wasn't you know, throughout the week. It was only one night a week, or maybe possibly two nights a week during the off season. It wasn't an everyday thing. If it wasn't every night thing, then I would definitely never be where I am right now. So I always put that work into and then sometimes we're in the weight room and we would work harder. We would be pushing each other harder because we'd be like, hey, you got to look Jack tonight. You know you got extra you know, twenty crunches, extra minute on the plank, you know, extra set of the bench press. So that motivated you. That got you to where you needed to get to because then you felt like you deserve to go out that night too. So, uh, you know it was always in back of the mind. Uh, but it wasn't like, you know, a daily thing. If it was a daily thing, I've seen players go through the daily thing where they're going out, you know, throughout the week too. And I always knew too as a kid, even in college, I'm like, no, I ain't touching that during the week. I ain't going out during the week. I need my sleep, you know, I need I need to go to classes obviously, I need to be ready for practice. And then I always actually did it when I always knew I had basically had off next day as well. Yeah, sometimes in the younger generation era, you know, you would do it with practice till the next day at like ten am or eleven and you would just fight your you know, fight your life through it. But majority of the time I would know I would have off next day as well to recover, rehydrate and all the good stuff. So I was I did all the all the stupid shit the smartest way possible.

00:47:12
Speaker 3: I feel that, Yeah, you grind it through it. Even in workout. It's like if I would be hungover, Like I remember a couple times where I'd be hungover, you try to have a late night and you work out the next day, and when I felt like I was on the verge of throwing up or my body feeling the way it did, it'd be like when you're on a knee listening to your coach talking, I'm just thinking in my head, I got it, i can't do this, Yeah, I can't like continue.

00:47:30
Speaker 4: I guess that's yeah, that's always the second guess, because when you go out, you're like, this is gonna be awesome, and then when you're a peak drunk.

00:47:35
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm gonna power through tomorrow. I'm gonna absolutely crush it.

00:47:38
Speaker 4: And the minute you get wake up the next day, I can never do that again. Yeah, But then it goes like it's Monday, you're like, I'm not drinking. I'm living my life like a saint. Now Tuesday comes by, you're like just a good old boy. Wednesday, it's like, you know, Friday is right around the corner and it is a lot of fun. Thursday is like, all right, one more weekend and then we're solid. And then all of a sudden, it's Friday, Saturday, and then Sunday you're like, all right, yes, just had that timeline, perfect, dude, because that's what it is. You always have, Like the Sunday scariers. You were like you've rethought your entire life, and you're like, this is it. This is the day I changed who I really am, and then by Friday you're back to being the same fucking person over and over again. I can't imagine that first offseason you had after your first year in the NFL, because because in college, it's like back when you played, it was you have like a week off at most, right, two weeks if you don't make a bowl game.

00:48:23
Speaker 1: Well. The best thing about it, too, was it was the lockout, so we weren't even allowed to have an off season that year, So I had a true six months of just doing whatever I wanted to do.

00:48:32
Speaker 4: So I was Milichick his pants.

00:48:34
Speaker 1: He really was. And that's when like kind of like videos were starting to service on the Internet of me. I was back at the University of Arizona with the basketball players at a pool party, just going ape shit. I was visiting my friends, like you said, in college Miami, Ohio. I got to bring that place up again. I'm telling you, a spectacular place if you're a young buck. Just the atmosphere that that's presented there is just phenomenal, h and just everything else. I learned what Vegas was that year as well, after my rookie year. But this is like I never had one. I never had the responsibility of going back in training, you know, up in New England because we were locked out. We weren't allowed back there for the whole six months. And then I ended up though, showing up and absolutely balling and training camp and having my breakout season where I scored like twenty one touchdowns including the playoffs, and like broke every record as a tight end. So I guess I can contribute it to all my dancing and all my party because I was moving. I'm talking about my stamina was up there. I was staying loose, you know, just jiggling everything on my body, just every type of motion you could possibly think of, tworking to the extreme powers, like I swear, that's what got me through. Was just NonStop movement. You know you do the lifting. You know, they say you got to have that base, like you know, the foundation of like your core of being loose, flexibility and stamina of the little muscles firing. And that's what got me the you know, keep everything firing at a proper rate. Was all the dancing and all the movements throwing your friends up in the air on top of lifting as well. Yeah, when did you? Right? I swear, though I swear, I mean I don't really do that really. I like try to go out and like I dance for like five minutes, and I'm like, how the fuck was I dancing for three hours straight? Like I can dance for five minutes. Now I'm like all right, Like I can't dance any longer anymore.

00:50:24
Speaker 4: When did you realize that your party and your antics could become like a massive brand, Because now you have like grounk Beach, your brother you and your brothers. You did the cruise, so you have you have so many things that are revolved around a lot of things that used to get you in trouble. When did that transition happen where you're like, oh, I can actually make money doing this?

00:50:41
Speaker 1: Uh? You know, it kind of just happened naturally as well. It wasn't like I was doing it as like a scheme or a play or you know, to get like notoriety from it. Not at all. Man. I was just being myself. What what I've been doing since, you know, my college days and going into the NFL. It wasn't like, you know, anything was planned ever. I was just doing me. And then it just kept blowing up sometimes. And that's why I just kept doing me, because I'm like, I'm just doing me, like I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm just having fun, you know. And then I really noticed a couple of years into it, like all right, like this is starting to become something because wherever I went, people expected it, you know, and it was cool. It was cool as shit. It was like, all right, I'm going out, it's going to be so turned up. But you have the energy when you're in the twenties as well to turn up the whole entire place. Get on the bar, give everyone shots, all that good stuff, and I noticed that, you know, it could possibly be a brand, Like it's working, even though I'm just being myself. It's working. It's blowing up, you know. At the same time, though, I always knew that balling on the field was what the real accelerator was, was what the engine was, was balling on the field, because like, this guy's absolutely fucking balling on the field, but he's going out with all the fans as well and just having a good time and going ham And then you know, eventually though, I kind of got over that kind of stigma, you know, because it was hard, you know, in your mid twenties easily with the energy to keep up with it. But when I was starting to fade on the football field, that was becoming hard off the field too, because I was starting to back away from it big time because football was, you know, starting to get away from me, and I didn't want football to get away from me. So I knew I had to start changing my lifestyle big time. So I would start picking and choosing when I'm going out, how much I'm going out then, and all that good stuff, because I wanted, you know, to be on top of my game for football and now to this day. You know, it is a brand, you know, like a party brand, it really is. But I'm not even close to partying how I was partying back in the day, that twenty year old me, you know, got that brand to sustain all the way to this day. That's how ham I was going though back then. Yeah, that's how much I was balling in the field. So you know, it's cool, like throwing grunk beach, I just pick and choose. Now, like grunk beach, I'll go hand, but not like how I used to. You know, I don't want to drink as much as I used to either. It's it's not good for you. It is poison. You know. I can't work out the next day. It takes three days to recover. I'm really into health, you know now, and and in fitness obviously I've been my whole life. But uh just I'm always in for a good time. But I'm more of the guy now you know that likes to look like laid back and watch what's going on and join a little bit of the action, but you know, not going too crazy, not.

00:53:26
Speaker 3: Like your young self. What were the what we're like the coaching moments like with somebody like Bill Belichick. You talk about how like the Patriot way, how strict he was, how meetings could run like in the early days before it becomes a brand. Are there any moments you're having in the facility with Coach Belichick before it like becomes a distraction or hey, your brand or being more than the team. Was there like a transition there? Because obviously, when you become drunk and you're the man, you guys are winning super Bowls, it's a lot more accepted because you know you're the man the Patriots are. You guys are winning football games. But in the early years, when you're coming back in these videos are surfacing, Is there anything happening in meetings with Coach Bill.

00:54:02
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I always knew if I showed up and balled, I would be in good hands, still be in good faith with the coaching staff, and Coach Belichick let a lot of things go. If you were bawling on the field, he didn't care if you were out all night and showing up. As long as you produce on that football field, he let everything go. It was fine. But the second you started dropping off, oh shit, you didn't want to be there. You didn't want to be in that meeting. You're getting called out. You're going to have a one on one meeting like hey, mother, Like what the fuck are you doing? I see you out, Like you can't even you know, come out to practice and get open versus our undrafted free agent. Like so he would let you know, and he would eventually let you know in front of the team too, he would call you out. So that's why, like you always had to be on point when you enter that facility. And that's why I believe that going to that destination, you know, kept me on the grind too, Like yeah, the nightlife and whatever you were doing outside of football, but the second you stepped in that building, like you had that motivation in that grind like oh fuck, Like I got to absolutely dominate because I was out. Everyone saw it. And if I don't produce on this field, oh fuck, it's going to be a bad day for me. So that kind of got you to that level mindset like that you got a ball.

00:55:16
Speaker 3: Did you ever have a moment with Bill where he had to check you in a one on one or a team meeting?

00:55:21
Speaker 1: Not really, So Julian and I we went out Memorial Day weekend to narraganinstt No Not Narro, garratt It, Nantucket, Naragainst's and Rhode Island. We went out to Nantucket for for Gawie weekend. We got absolutely, you know, hammered. We were out of a golf cart. We're in the back, Julian and I doing our thing, and the golf cart lifted up in the air the front tires and we landed on the ground and it was a video that surfaced the internet and it was classic. And I remember the next day or three days later, we go to whatever OTAs running rounds and Bill came up to us and we were outing all over please get all that fucking ship out of your system. I saw you too, idiots this weekend. You guys are fucking fools. Keep running, get it all out of you. So we were balling though we were out there. But Coach always got you to that mindset hungover and not feeling so good when you hit that field. That just the aura in New England that got you to that mindset of whatever fuck is in your system, however you feel get yeah, you better not feel that way. It's gonna get it's gonna get you over it when you hit that field right there?

00:56:33
Speaker 3: Is that?

00:56:33
Speaker 1: It is that the golf cart? Yeah, right there there we are to oh the back of the golf cart broke. That's not good. This is like two months before the season, is it really? But Justin Timberlake loved it because that was the same night we were, Yeah, right there, we were dancing to a song. This is the same night we were dancing to a song gotta feel it. Yeah, got a feeling and we were rocking out. And then he tweeted that, Yeah, the same night ladies to groc get a playboy. So shout out to Justin timber That's what I knew, all right, I gotta keep going. You see those dance moves. Now you see why I was getting out there. You're staying loose. Look at shimminging all over the place.

00:57:17
Speaker 4: At that what is it the shuffle? You got something going there for sure. You talk about the aura of New England those first couple of years, Like what was it like for you picking up the playbook? Understanding everything and knowing like what Tom wanted? Like how demanding was Tom on you when it came to the playbook and stuff like that?

00:57:34
Speaker 1: Bro, That's why I didn't play like my first eight games because I didn't really know the playbook like that. I had the skills, I had the talent, you know, but they didn't trust me. I even had some great you know highlights in the preseason that year. I had like three touchdowns drag blauring nights into the end zone.

00:57:49
Speaker 2: Uh.

00:57:49
Speaker 1: You like I showed some talent, Like I showed some bursts. I showed like what the type of player I could be. Uh. But then like practice would come still and I would be fucking up tremendously, Like I would have five great plays and I would have five terrible plays. I'd be blocking the wrong guy, I'd be running the wrong route. And when you're at that level, no matter how good you are, if they can't trust in you doing the right thing, well you're not going to play in New England. They don't give a fuck how good you are. They're not gonna play you. And they let me know that. And the first eight games I only had about fifteen to twenty snaps per game I was playing, And it would only be the true plays that they would trust in me. They say, hey, here's the twenty plays that you know we trusting you with these twenty plays, we'll call you in personnel when we're gonna call these plays. I do like twenty plays a game. And then all of a sudden, I'm bawling though I'm still showing that potential, you know, and they're like you, we're not putting you out on that fucking field until like we can truly trust in you. Same with Tom, you know, coaching staff, Billy, oh Bill. And then finally, like I was struggling because the playbook was totally different from college. At college, I lined up on the right every single play. I had like five routes, you know, we had like five blocking plays, run, place and kaboom in the playbook. And one day, I mean, you get to New England. You got a playbook like that, you got fifty five different formations. I gotta line up on the left, I gotta line up and slot. There's fifty different calls in the run game. I'm likeel fifty different calls in the run game. Arizona, we had five different run calls, you know. Yeah, so I couldn't get up the pace. And then finally, like week eight, Week a nine, all of a sudden, just everything clicked, you know that feeling when you're like, okay, I got this. I know everything in the playbook. Not everything, but like I got I know enough now. And then I was showing them on the practice field like hey, I'm consistent. Now I'm bawling like I'm doing the right things. And then I'll play. You know, I talked about plenty of times. There There was a play versus Chicago Bears versus Arlacker that I had to body him up and I did it in practice on Friday, and they're like, we're gonna call this play and you got you better be ready for it. And then it was versus Arlac. I had to, you know, get big on him in the end zone, one yard into the into the end zone, turn on him, use my body and the boom there as a ball. Did it in practice, replicated in the game versus Iarlacker box box him out. Uh, Tom put the ball right there and I caught it. And ever since then, the trust just went through the roof and I played every single play after that. So the playbook, you know, I to you rookies out there, get in the playbook. That's the first thing. It doesn't matter how good you are if you don't know the plays. If you're thinking on the field, you're not going to play. You're not going to be the best player that you could possibly be. So get in the playbook and know those plays right from the beginning.

01:00:32
Speaker 3: What was Tom Brady like through these growing pains your rookie year?

01:00:35
Speaker 1: He was an asshole in my rookie year. He really was. He was like mister Bill Belichick's son at that time. He was mister Patriot at that time. But and he was on my ass though. But you know, I see why, though, you know, I really see why he saw the potential in me too. I remember one time I ran a flag route and he always wanted me to go outside of the defender, and like I didn't have the fluidity to get outside of him when he was like two yards outside of me and try to get open. So I always try to go right inside of him, make a little move and try to get open the flag route even though he's playing outside. And he's like, I'm never gonna throw you the fucking ball. Actually, I'm never throwing you the ball ever again. He said that in the meeting room after I went inside on the flag round. But he told me five times already to get outside at least show them I'm trying to get outside. But I'm like it was too hard for me at that time, Like I couldn't comprehend it, you know, the way that my body was moving. I just couldn't do it. And then after he said that, then that kind of clicked in me too, like, oh, fuck, I gotta really try to show him that I'm getting outside and just just have a quarterback to be that hard on you at the beginning though as a young buck, you know, it can definitely deteriorate you a little bit. But he saw all that potential because then right after he would say something like that, Yo, stay after me with practice. Let's fucking let's let's run this route twenty times. Let's get you on the same page. You have to finally click. I'm going to keep going until you click. So he was really really hired on me. But I see why, and I respect it to the highest tea. And I'm so glad that he was that hired on me as well, because we would have never gotten to the page and the chemistry that we were at if he wasn't that hired on me. And that's what makes him probably you know, well, the greatest player of all time because it wasn't his skill set, you know, it wasn't his ability to do you know, what he does on the football field. It was it was also the ability to bring the best out of his teammates around him. Win this episode to bring you Neutral.

01:02:32
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01:03:30
Speaker 1: Kind of that moment. You know, my rookie year, you know, I felt like I got in the pack, like after that play versus Earl, but I wasn't truly in it yet. You know, we had Wes Welker as well. I mean Randy Moss you know, just got traded in my rookie year, so he was in that pack as well. Dan Branch got traded back, like he was in that pack even though he left for a little bit with the Seahawks. We had a couple other players as well that I could see that he truly trusted and that he truly looked to. And I would say I truly enter. That was my second year when I bloss him, and that was my absolute goal as well. We talked about, yeah, having that lockout, but in me going hand for six months straight, but also in back of my mind, football was always there, and I always wanted to be the greatest. And I remember calling my agent, Drew Roadshouse. I said, I'm gonna be the greatest fucking tight end this season. Watch and he's like, okay, I mean, he's like, you got Antonio Gage, you got Jason Wait, And I'm like, now, I'm telling I'm gonna be the greatest tight end this year. And like I had that as a mindset and I'm gonna be on the same page as Brady. I get what he wants now. And then going into that training camp, everything was just clicking and I entered that pack of that trust because I get that trust from Brady and the coaching staff. You have to be a consistent fucking player. I don't care. You can show a burst of going deep and making an amazing play, but if you can do that one out of every ten, I mean, you're not in that pack. You're not going to have that trust. So I showed that trust going into my second year, and then that's when it just all truly started clicking and it lasted for ten more years straight.

01:05:05
Speaker 3: How did that was? It? Always respect from Tom when he's hard on you in those moments like your rookie year. Are you thinking, like, Yo, this dude's a fucking asshole. I thought he was, well, you're kind of resistant to like, hey, let's stay up to practice, do twenty reps, and you're just like, fuck man, all right.

01:05:18
Speaker 1: I thought he was an asshole for sure at first. You know, I'm telling you it was mister Patriot, my rookie year, like like he was. He was Bill two point zero. I swear, like, I'm like, man, this guy zero fun zero fun like zero like. But but I kind of understood it at the same time, not to the full extent, you know, but.

01:05:43
Speaker 3: Once you're in this, like once you're in, you're growing, you're progressing, you're getting better. You're thinking, all right, this is this is where I need to kind of bum yes.

01:05:50
Speaker 1: And then once I bought in too, he loosened up as well, Like he just wanted me to buy in and get rid of all that bullshit that was going on on the outside, or me not pay attention in the meetings, or me not doing what I need to do out in the football field, because he saw it in me like he sees he sees potential in players. He knows players inside and out, like he can watch film Tom he can break down a player's strength, he can break down their weakness. He can break down how to get open versus what you got to do. He can even break down a defensive lineman like and know their strengths and how to block a defensive lineman. He knows the game of football like that, and that's what makes it made him so great obviously. So he knew what I needed to do out in the football field. And when I started finally doing it, when it started clicking to me and I was starting to truly understand, that's when that relationship really blossomed, and he, you know, he was less hard on me. I mean still to this day, he's hard on his players. I mean even once you get that relationship going, because he wants that relationship to keep building, you know. But it wasn't like my rookie year. You know, every rookie year was tough at some points. But I saw why, and I'm I'm so blessed and I'm so thankful that he was like that. I needed it. Put it that way, I needed it.

01:06:58
Speaker 3: How hard was were they on Julian Edelman. I just listened to Bill Belichick on the pivot and it seems like they were extremely harder. Coach Belichick was extremely hard on Julian when he got to New England.

01:07:10
Speaker 1: Well, he was a year before me, so I didn't really see his rookie year like that.

01:07:13
Speaker 5: Dog.

01:07:17
Speaker 1: It's a good boy though, he knows where we're a good boy working. You feel safe, Yeah, he feels safe. He's just relaxing. That's a good boy right there. So but later on, if we keep going, he'll eventually let us know like, hey, hey, motherfucker humans, Hey, motherfucker humans, it's my turn, throw me the ball. But he's a good boy. But Julian was absolute dog and they love getting under his skin. If you got under Julian's skin, it brought the best out of them. And I would say same with myself, you know, And that's why they're hired on players there. Coach Belichick knew how to get him play into players' minds, even if it was in the most asshole way.

01:07:53
Speaker 3: You know.

01:07:53
Speaker 1: That's why we respected so much and we appreciate it, you know, to this day. Because he was really trying to make you the best fucking player that you could possibly be, and he was trying to bring the best out of you, and he sure did it, even though whatever way he was doing it, you know, it could have been vicious. You know, it could have been like, yo, I'm about to trade you. Like he could have just been making it up and then you would go absolutely balls, you know, out in the practice field and the games. So he knew how to bring the best out of players, especially the ones that he knew wanted it, and Julian was a guy that wanted it, and he brought the best out of Julian and whatever techniques he was doing to get under Julian's skin.

01:08:32
Speaker 4: Dude, you I mean obviously, receiving wise as where you get paid, it's probably the most fun for you. But from a blocking standpoint, you see so many clips of you, like throwing a chip bock on trail sucks and then sending them into the bleachers that the safety from the Colts on the goal line sitting him all the way to the sidelines, tell me him no white T shirts in the club. Where did the mindset come with the blocking? Was it always really important to you or did you learn early like this is how you become like a complete tight end.

01:08:57
Speaker 1: No, it was always important to me since my high school days playing football, I always just took pride in the blocking game. I really did. I remember in high school it was before like all the blindside blocks you know, got banned, which was a good thing, you know what I'm talking to, those crack crack black blocks. You took more pride in high school when you absolutely leveled someone than say, scoring a touchdown. I'm talking The touchdown was cool, you celebrate, but the whole sideline would go absolutely bonkers if you took someone up and just planting them on the ground, or you blindsided someone and just flat blacked them and basically put them in the hospital. So that mindset was always there to just be the biggest dog, to be the you know, to be the strongest dog out in the field, and to to be tossing people around. Tossing people around felt like the manly thing to be in the game of football. Yeah, catching touchdowns was cool, that came with it, but that wasn't what you wanted to showcase. It was how far can you take someone and just embarrass them and just show them who the fuck is boss? So that's started, you know in high school maybe say it would say as a kid though that toughness because I was getting beat the shit out of from my three older brothers and their friends at all times, and they would pick on me and I would just come right back at them. So that mindset started then. And then in high school my senior year, I only had eight catches my senior year in high school as a tight end, and we ran the ball fifty two out of fifty two plays one time, and it didn't matter because we were dominating. We won the game like thirty nothing. I would just take guys, drive them back five yards, planning them. At one time in high school, picked up a guy, brought them off the sidelines ten yards and threw them over the fence. It was kind of like the play, the Sergio Brown play, but instead I took the guy up in the air at ten yards and threw them over. And now, yeah, just like that one. But then I took the guy and threw them over the fence in high school, and we just took so much pride in that, like it wasn't about catches, it wasn't about touchdowns. So that translated into college and everyone respected it. Everyone respected me a lot more because I wasn't the guy just looking for touchdowns. I was the guy when it came to whatever seven on seven what's it called when nine and seven run period, that I'd be showing up. And it was all about how how how bad ass can you be in the run game, and how you know, how hard can you block the d N and make a hole for your running back?

01:11:17
Speaker 4: Dude, there is something about having a tight end that knows how to do like a trade block or a triple block and knows where the right fit is, where to put his hands. It makes your life so much easier.

01:11:25
Speaker 1: It's the best feeling, dude. Yeah, to this day. You know, when people show my highlights, I don't give a fuck, Like the catching highlights and touchdowns, I'm like, cool whatever, I won't even look. I'll be like, that's cool. But when I see a blocking play of mine, I rewind that thing I've read there. I remember Stephen Ridley, he was running back, my good friend. He'd beat Kevin Hart in a race like two years ago, and Kevin Hart blew out his hamstring. So the NFL, you guys remember that a little bit. No, he blew out his abdominal and then the NFL was you know, showed oh ex player Stephen Ridley, you know, blows away Kevin Hart in a race. Kevin Hart blows abdomino. So then what did they do? The NFL took all of Stephen Ridley's highlights and they put them up on the NFL dot com or whatever their Instagram page, and guess what there, I was blocking and I sent it to Really, I said, look at that motherfucker block for you. I'm like, I love the blocking highlights. And I'm I'm like surprised with myself because I don't really remember, like it was just a natural thing I would do, you know, and I didn't really notice how important it really was. It was just part of my personality, Like that's what I did. I blocked. But when I go back and I watched me block, like when I was in my heyday, like the first four years, man, I was fucking tossing motherfuckers, dude, and I didn't really realize it that I was really doing it like that. Like I was doing it like that. So I'll always rewind a block and I'll always make sure that people see all the blocks when they're up on the DV screen, which is whatever.

01:12:58
Speaker 4: With the game, were you a g that like talk ship during the game, or you kind of just keeped yourself and if somebody talks it to you turn it up on them a little bit.

01:13:04
Speaker 1: There we go, and I love when people talk shit to me, Like brought me to a whole other level. And that's what happened with the That's what I was gonna ask ahole entire game, just yapping at me and we're friends, like we're friends like in New England. I'm like, bro, like I'm getting open on you guys too, and we're dominating you. But just kept going and going and going, and finally he just triggered me and I just was like, I'm on the next blocking play again. I'm gonna just keep going and going and going.

01:13:27
Speaker 4: How long was that? I'm gonna I'm gonna get him when.

01:13:29
Speaker 1: I get just chirping. He was chirping the whole time. Yeah, there was Dabel. You saw Dabel there giants. Now he loved it too. There he is right, there was.

01:13:41
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, good ship. How many plays so this guy's chirping at you, getting after you, saying whatever? How many How long after was that block for you where You're like, Okay, I'm gonna take this kid to the episoute sound.

01:13:52
Speaker 1: Oh, I was going. I didn't care if I knew the play was over too. Like I saw the running back score a touchdown. Oh Ship, what's his name again? He had three touchdowns that came in like two hundred and fifty yards.

01:14:02
Speaker 4: You just had like fifty running backs?

01:14:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, And then we caught him like two weeks later because jonas yeah, ja so many running backs. I just couldn't think of what it was you guys running backs. I saw him score right behind me too, and I was like, fuck this, I'm still going. I was just over him. He was just talking the whole time, and I just like I'm gonna I'm just gonna go until he collapses and then boom finally.

01:14:28
Speaker 3: Right there is why I never wanted to talk Ship. Yeah, just to like, if you're going to gainst a good player, you're just I'm always like complimenting. I'm complimenting.

01:14:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hated that this guy's too nice, Like I don't want to it's.

01:14:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's when you have a lax just like you're playing a hell of a game out here, just to like you never want that trigger to go off on somebody because you just never fucking know. You ain't trying to be on a highlight.

01:14:55
Speaker 4: No, I feel you, I mean you're you're how do you feel about this?

01:14:58
Speaker 1: Oh? Man? That's that's that's a set you fifty one correct? Yeah, you got me solo tackle. But that's a nice uh flat route though. Look at the speed I had back then. Wish I had that speed still though, Man, look at me come out of the back Was that coming out of the backfield or was that just a flat route at the tight position or that? Yeah? I'm flying right there. See I out angled you. That's how fast I was back then. That should have been if you were playing true technique football as a linebacker, that should have been a two yard cat. Just I just beat the zone, beat his own.

01:15:30
Speaker 3: I think we were a man there. Yeah, so it makes it even worse, worse, but you made up for it.

01:15:37
Speaker 1: You made up right there. Look at should I have only about four yards? But Will couldn't close the gap fast. Holy shit, I'm on the same page still. And that was and that was. That was June twenty third, twenty twenty three, all right, so that wasn't that long ago. But still, that was a nice tackle.

01:15:55
Speaker 4: He got one on one a lot of other men have failed trying to do.

01:15:59
Speaker 3: There's a photo where it's captured from from Rob's angle to where it looks like he just I mean, he does stiff arm me, but it looks like they have a great angle to where that should you get like posterized for getting stiff armed?

01:16:10
Speaker 1: Now?

01:16:10
Speaker 4: I know, I know Gronk's a guest on our show, but if you're in man coverage, are you fearful of this man because he's not like it wasn't the shiftiest guy in the world and you had some speedback then, this is.

01:16:22
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know he's a stiff arm Well, so yeah, absolutely, Look at that pick man.

01:16:29
Speaker 3: I see that picking.

01:16:32
Speaker 1: You got to break that down. You got to break that down.

01:16:34
Speaker 3: And I.

01:16:37
Speaker 1: Was on the sideline, so I knew that you had silent help, so I didn't really try. I wanted you.

01:16:44
Speaker 3: I wanted you to catch the ball because I wanted to pad My stats.

01:16:48
Speaker 1: Was there for both of us. First down, But you gotta tackle.

01:16:52
Speaker 4: Tackle bright pull on the film, but comp you got to fix the angle here a little bit. But hey, way to get him down when he got him.

01:16:57
Speaker 3: A lot of guys fail on.

01:16:58
Speaker 4: That, A lot of guys failed.

01:17:01
Speaker 3: Mission Impossible is the greatest franchise of all time, and it's one of those few franchises that feels like they just constantly get better. They raise the bar. They have an amazing cast, and they have incredible action.

01:17:14
Speaker 4: Scene Buddy, I could not agree more. Tom Cruise is truly incredible. There's actors and actresses out there all over the world. There's only a few elite actors and actresses, but there's only one individual who does all of their stunts and has no stunt doubles, and that is the one and only Tom Cruise.

01:17:28
Speaker 3: Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning. They have some of the most dangerous stunts that have ever been filmed in cinema. They're incomparable visceral action for audiences around the world. I don't understand how they do it each time, each.

01:17:42
Speaker 4: Move, Buddy, the stunt Tom Cruise performed on that plane, That plane was going one hundred and seventy miles an hour and then all of a sudden, this in sane stunt. That was with two million gallons of water.

01:17:52
Speaker 3: You just know at one hundred and seventy mile prior wins in massive water tanks. This movie's gonna be crazy, It's gonna be untouched.

01:18:01
Speaker 4: This film is a culmination of the last thirty years. Every mission has led to this.

01:18:06
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see this movie. The whole squad's going and all we talk about is how we can't wait to see this action on the big screen.

01:18:15
Speaker 4: Bro. Tom Cruise truly delivers in this movie. It makes you wonder, will this be the final Reckoning?

01:18:20
Speaker 3: Catch Mission Impossible? The final Reckoning in theaters this Thursday. You do not want to miss I want to ask.

01:18:29
Speaker 1: I gotta ask.

01:18:29
Speaker 3: You were the same same position, group, same age, What was it like around Aaron Hernandez.

01:18:34
Speaker 1: I was just gonna get into that De's really.

01:18:36
Speaker 3: Like in your mind or you're like all the stuff that comes out about him now, like going back to those moments around him, are you kind of thinking your head like I'm not in this world too much? But there's like some there's like some shit that this guy's into off the field that I don't necessarily even want to know.

01:18:48
Speaker 4: Because there was we we heard stories about like him being in the team meeting room, like beating off and like doing crazy shit. I mean, and and honestly, if you don't want to talk about me.

01:18:56
Speaker 1: Possibly, that's a possibility. I may or may have not seen it live. No shit, yeah, I'm not going to complete I'm not.

01:19:10
Speaker 4: At the time, just thinking yourself, Man, this guy really.

01:19:13
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean I love crazy shit though, so like I didn't mind things like that. I was like, wow, like that was pretty epic. Like I was a wild man myself, so like I was like, nothing fazed me. I was like I encouraged it, but like never I mean, I mean, first off, unbelievable football player. Man, you're talking about the playbook me struggling with the playbook. That guy knew the plays inside and out, the run game, man pass game, and like the first two weeks being in New England, while I struggled with it all the way untol like week eight, you know. And he was bawling right from the beginning. He was a basketball player out on the football field, That's what he was. With his size, he could run, he was he was at one point he was lining up at running back and having already plus yard runs while I was black. I mean, you guys, yes, you're the best combination at the tight end position of all time, and that second year proves it. I mean, we have like, what twenty three hundred yards combined and like twenty eight touchdowns between just him and I including playoffs and regular season. That's unheard of. Like, there ain't no other tight end combo ever going to have fifteen hundred yards combined like ever again possibly or maybe like sixteen hundred yards. So we went like twenty eight hundred and like twenty eight touchdowns, which is just absurd. But uh, there's a lot of craziness definitely. But I didn't mind it, Like I said, I loved it. Uh, And then I didn't see, you know, it going to the level that it went to. I didn't see that happening Like that was a surprise. It was a surprise to everyone because you would never expect anyone, you know, especially be in that position, to have it go to the level that it went to.

01:20:56
Speaker 3: And you're learning about this stuff with when all the whether it's duckumentary shows coming out about it. You're learning that then, and you're like, fuck, I didn't really know it was that bad.

01:21:06
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was that bad. I mean I knew that, you know, there was definitely some wild size to him, but with everything coming out, there's there's some that I would say is true, and the documentaries that come out, there's some that's probably exaggerated a little bit, but there's some that's not exaggerated at all either. I'm not going to talk about like what topics it was and everything, but uh, I mean it was wild man. I I was the guy that was truly there throughout his whole career, right in the same room the whole entire time. Is But it's unfortunate though what happened, because the talent was just just through the roof. Man through the roof, and if we could have kept our tandem going, yeah, we would been just truly unstoppable. But uh yeah, that's really all I got on that. Yeah, saw it, saw some of it, but you didn't know it was like to that extra and not surprise either now either, like it's like okay, that makes sense now.

01:22:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when you guys are at practice, he got charged when you guys were at practice or like like you guys practice that day.

01:22:10
Speaker 1: Correct, it was an off season, it was it was actually it was yeah, it was during the summer when no one was actually at the facility and.

01:22:18
Speaker 4: When like when when you found out were you like at first, like there's no way this is possible? Or were you like that's that's that's a tough question to ask. What was your thought process when you heard he was charged?

01:22:32
Speaker 1: Well, he didn't get charged until like after the fact that it all came out correct, So like when I first kind of like was the thought process when I first heard about you know, the situation, the real situation where I was like, all right, this is trouble. Uh, you know, surprised, shocked big time? Uh, sad a little bit like no, like no way, Like also disappointed, you know, like like why would you do that? Like like why, like what's going on? We got the whole world in front of us, We got the world by the balls, especially you know you and I as the tandem, Like we got the best team out there everything. So it was it was shocking, you know, it was sad as well, you know once once you really realize what truly happened.

01:23:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, how was Bill Belichick? Aside from what you get to see, whether he's uh in press conferences, the coaching side, the Art of Winning book, Like, what's he like kind of off the field or away? Because I think there's a story where he showed up hammered to Randy Moss's one of his costume parties or like a Halloween, like what's a what's another what's a fun side of Bill Belichick?

01:23:43
Speaker 1: All Right, here's something that a lot of people really don't know is that he never really cracks jokes, you know, and he's always got that serious face and team meetings, but every once in a while, like once every two weeks, he would just come in with an absolute fucking banger, bro I'm talking banger, and he would actually have a smile on his face right after he would just drop some knowledge or some you know, over the top joke that just landed every time with the team, and everyone would just be on the ground, that's fucking dying laughing. It was so it was always vicious too, the joker or whatever, the knowledge was always vicious. But when he came in with that, it always lightened the mood. It was every it was once in a blue moon. But when he did do that, man, it was good ship. We all appreciated it.

01:24:26
Speaker 3: You ever get to you have a party with Bill. He ever partaking the Gronkowski Dances.

01:24:30
Speaker 1: Actually he showed up to the first Grunk Beach ever when I first retired. It was in Miami. It was at that Super Bowl like uh five six years ago, and he showed up to that grunk beach, which was really cool. But other than that, he was there for like five minutes. He's like, Yeah, this isn't really for me showing face. Really, let's go. Yeah, he's great, but I think he loves he loves the party scene more than ever right now. Actually at parties. I mean he's not like he's right picking out, I mean, but he's there. You know, he's doing his thing, and you know, he's loosened up big time ever since he left being a head coach in the NFL, which is cool to see.

01:25:09
Speaker 4: Were you surprised about that him loosing up after he became a head coach after he left the NFL.

01:25:15
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely surprised. I thought he would keep that mantra even like going on to whatever you know, he was going to do next after the NFL. I'm sure he probably has that mantra while coaching, you know, the tar heels, but like on the outside of everything else. I was definitely surprised when he started joining you know, social media. You know, he joined the media game and he was more loose, you know, cracking more jokes, smiling more when he was making all his appearances on all the shows that he was on. But it was really good to see, Like I was happy for him, man, you know, it was a different side that everyone got to see too. But the knowledge he drops as well is always accurate too. Knows the game of football inside and out better than anyone else out there.

01:25:53
Speaker 3: What's it like seeing all the headlines with the Jordan stuff, with knowing coach Belichick as this no nonsense coach and seeing all the like theatrics that have kind of came with on the outside looking in, like with him at North Carolina.

01:26:05
Speaker 4: Guy, that's all about eliminating distractions.

01:26:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

01:26:08
Speaker 1: So that's a little surprising to me because he was all about eliminating distractions, and like it's kind of I mean, we can't really say if it's a distraction yet or not, because well, no, in the win lost column this year, if he wins every game or puts up eight wins this year at UNC, well then there was no distractions at all. The distractions sometimes fuels him. I mean, how much you know, crazy shit did he deal with in New England From you know, Tom's things to Hernandez, to me, you know, in some situations, to just a lot of other things that were going on, and we would just go out there and win constantly at a at a you know, at a rate that's never been seen before, and win super Bowls even though there was things going on the outside. Uh you know that didn't you know that we're trying to distract us, but want to get to us because we would block it all out. But still if there was something going on and it was just at like just bickering you know, at the team and like everyone had to deal with it, he would kind of say something, you know, like a kind of like amp and down a little bit, you know, media, Yeah, like hey, this is going on, Like can you just kind of diffuse the situation. So I kind of feel like he's not diffusing the situation at all when it could be diffused a little bit more, and it's becoming a distraction to the whole entire program at the University of North Carolina a little bit. So, uh, it kind of goes against that. But like we said, he's also loosened up tremendously and he's kind of a you know, changed you know, personality since being a coach in the NFL.

01:27:45
Speaker 2: Uh.

01:27:45
Speaker 1: But just overall, I think like football needs to come. Once football comes, you know, I'm excited to see how all that goes. You know, I'm kind of getting ann about all these other things that talked about with Bill right now. It's like, let's see this guy coach. You know, if this guy dominates, well, then let it be. And if he loses out right from the beginning and he's one in three, that could be a serious problem.

01:28:14
Speaker 4: If he starts out one and three, you need to fly out to North Carolina and have a one on one meeting with him. We got to eliminate these distractions.

01:28:20
Speaker 1: I'll have University of North Carolina hiring me as like president of all sports. Yes, so I can be president. Wants to beat you, You're in there and be like, I'm sorry.

01:28:35
Speaker 3: Tom and Edelman all flight all above them too. They all have to be above them.

01:28:40
Speaker 1: Eliminate the distractions.

01:28:42
Speaker 4: Come on, what are we doing out here?

01:28:43
Speaker 3: Yeah?

01:28:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to win or not? That's what we got to focus.

01:28:46
Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see what happens, you know, Yeah, we'll see what happens.

01:28:49
Speaker 4: One in three.

01:28:49
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm pulling from. He'll be great for football. It'll be great for college football, like the Dion effect, you know, like how much better? Like no one watched Colorado, It's like no one watch you, and like everyone tuned in everyone, it will be tuned into you.

01:29:03
Speaker 4: And see for sure when Tom and Bill end up breaking up, Tom, you go with Tom to Tampa Bay. From your vantage point, what did you see happening there on the inside between their relationship, because you were saying in the beginning of your career, Tom's sitting there as baby Bill Belichick. He's Bill Belichick's son essentially, and then they get to the end you hear about how they're not really getting along culturally. They think that they're going different directions. Tom and everybody, you guys lose to the Titans in twenty nineteen, ending your dynasty and then retired.

01:29:34
Speaker 1: You're right, that's why you're a dynasty, do you think?

01:29:36
Speaker 4: So what do you what did you do see happening between them and that breakup?

01:29:45
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, like I said, I mean I was surprised. I mean, if you go all the way way back to my rookie year, it was definitely like a different mindset or positioning that Tom was in like he like I said, he was like Bill Belichick's son, my rookie year. I would say, I mean, I really can't talk for Tom or Bill like on how the relationship, but I would just say what kind of really happened was that Tom was probably growing older, you know, and was like, you know, wanted to freelance more. I would say, doesn't have to be treated like a rookie. And it was still going on, uh, And I would say he was getting over that situation even though it was kind of like that, you know, my rookie year.

01:30:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he he was, you know.

01:30:30
Speaker 1: Guys, thirty five years old now thirty six, and doesn't need to be treated like arguably the goal yeah, probably already the greatest of all time. It doesn't need to be treated like a rookie, you know. And I would say the tensions started feuding over things like in that situation between them two, that's kind of like how I how I saw it in a way. And then eventually neither of them were gonna you know, you know, twitch or like Ben the knee or Ben then yeah, bend the knee. So the tension just started heating up. I would say, and eventually, you know, the divorce happened, But our details or what they were truly thinking, you would have to ask one of them. But from an outside perspective, like player, I would say that's kind of how the case, you know, kind of started and ended.

01:31:17
Speaker 3: When those topics are getting talked about in the media is when we you're like, oh, yeah, this is gonna come to the surface sooner or later.

01:31:23
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And then it's also like, wow, it took that long for it to come to the surface as well. Yeah. Yeah, Sometimes the media is right, it's like wow, it took them that long. But then sometimes it's like, wait, they're already way ahead of the game. How did they already know that it was that that was already coming to the serface, or they would come up with something that wasn't even up to the surface and it was never going to come up to the surface. But there's some things where it's like, whoa, it took them that long, and you're surprised, you know, now with media these days, when media doesn't catch on to something and it takes a while to get out, you're surprised with that.

01:31:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, what were the conversations that took place to get you out of retirement into Tampa.

01:32:00
Speaker 1: Well, everything had a you know check out for me. It wasn't just one situation that was gonna you know, get me out of retirement. First off, I had to be feeling good again. I was really beat up, you know, those last two years in New England, and it was getting tough on me, you know, playing on a weekly basis, like the Sunday game. I couldn't recover until like Saturday, the following Saturday, and then to practice and all that. It was just becoming miserable. I mean everyone experiences that, and that's why everyone retires, especially because if you weren't experiencing that and you're experiencing the joy of like playing, like when you're in twenty three, why the fuck would you retire, you know what I mean. So when it gets starts getting miserable and hard, you know, that's when you want to walk away from the game. And that's what I did. But I was really beat up too. But I was like, you know, you're kind of evolving, you know, throughout your whole career. I involved found different situations, you know, to recover. Also different workouts you know that can keep me on top of my game. Also kind of needed a different scenario, you know, different program, you know, So when time went to Tampa, we just talked about it a little bit. My mom lived down there. I love Florida. Totally different organization, felt more laid back. Definitely put the work in, but still more laid back like a country club.

01:33:11
Speaker 3: Uh.

01:33:11
Speaker 1: They wanted me as well Tampa. It wasn't just Tom wanted me. The organization called me up too and they're like, yeah, we definitely want you be a part, you know, of the Buccaneers family. I was feeling good as well and felt like I had more left in the tank. So every box checked off. And then obviously with Tom going down there to have that chemistry and just to keep it going on in a new program. So everything just you know, you know, pled my way and I pulled the trigger to do it.

01:33:40
Speaker 3: And there it seems it sounds like they were willing to like cater around your expectation what you wanted physically to like what your body needed, what you needed as how old are you at this time?

01:33:49
Speaker 1: I was thirty years old.

01:33:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a thirty year three year old tight tight end was back in New England when you decided to retire. You talk about the joy and it just you hated going up to work. Was a lot of it to the expectation and the stress that would come with the organization of the Patriots, like the standard that had lived and they expected you to live by when you're like, hey, I feel like my body would respond better doing this, or I feel like I should be doing this workout, because a lot of times you butt heads with those third party sources that we all use outside of the facility, and then you try to implement them inside and the who the whole ego battle kind of like butts heads.

01:34:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hit it right on the money, bro. You I mean, like you said, you played for a while, so you understand that. And every player kind of goes through that experience too. But in a way like I like in New England, like coaches never gave off anyone from practice. But like at the end of my career, I was like, I can't be playing in a game on Sunday and practice full speed Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Like I'm blocking guys. Think about what I'm doing. I'm running thirty five routes a game as well, like a wide receiver and I'm trying to block three, you know, three hundred pounders sometimes d ms that are two hundred and sixty pounds linebackers that are running all over the place on a continuous basis, every single place. So my energy and effort, and I'll put it is higher than anyone else out there on the football field if you really think about it, because of the routes I got to run and also to be in shape blacking, and I just couldn't recover anymore. Like Wednesday would come and I won't even want to hit anyone in the nine nine seven. I'd be like yo, like I'm just gonna put my hand in front of you, you know, Like I didn't even want to hit, Like that's that's a bad feeling. You don't want to get hit and you're playing the game of football. But like if I took off like by like Thursday or Friday, like I was able to do it again, like have that mindset like oh I'm ready to hit, but like no, no one would get off in practice or anything. So it was getting tough, like that mentality that aura in New England, like I wanted a day off of practice and all that, but it was just tough, and it was tough to ask for it too, because of the expectations. Right, So when I got the Tampa exactly, but when I got to Tampa, they were kind of known, like, hey, we're gonna we give vets a day off, like you got to be truly proven though, like and I was proven at that time, and I was like, okay, I at least get one day off a week, and every in training camp, every three days, I get off too. And they were down for it. Well, they were down.

01:36:08
Speaker 4: I bet you could have probably negotiated more coming out of retirement.

01:36:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't need more though, But also with the mindset coming from New England, you kind of feel like you're letting the team down as well if you're taking off too much, you know, especially if you're not injured or you know, rehabbing an injury. But I was cool with it with my mindset because I truly knew that I couldn't practice every single day and then be fully ready for a game on Sunday. And they gave me off every Friday my two years in Tampa, which I'm thankful for, which you know, I put the work in, you know, Wednesday Thursday, but I truly believe that's what got me to play and got me, you know, to be able to play at the level I played. It wasn't the highest level of football that I could possibly play it like I was, but like to play at the highest level at that age and where I was. Yeah, taking off that Friday to at least make an impact on the field.

01:36:57
Speaker 4: Right, Well got you that incentive too, because there was that clip that came out of you going up to Tom being like, hey, I need one more Yes. And so you guys are you were pulled out of that game? Correct, and You're like, I need to go back in.

01:37:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we were. We were whomping him. It was like the third quarter. We were up like thirty five nothing or thirty five seven, So they pulled all the starters. But Tampa's cool, you know, they're cool like that. They want you to make all the possible money that you can make Offen the corner of Byron Left which always said in the meeting, there's two things that you take away from football. On the end, he goes, it's your relationships and it's the money that you make. That's the two things that stick with you forever, and he says, So going in, he goes, if we're up, obviously, the most important thing is to win the game. But if we're up and you need an extra catch, we're going to get you that extra catch. We're going to get you that money. So we were winning. They pulled all the starters, but Tom was like, hey, we got to get one more catch. We drew a play right on the right on the sideline. Hey, rob motion across. You're just gonna run a diagonal. I'm going to hit you and boom motion across. I actually false started, but they didn't get called where you lean forward a little bit? Yeah, it's called what's that called again? What's the motion? Yeah? But you uh, where you accidentally moved forward a little bit on the motion that's appunently you're not allowed to move forward. Then it is a fall start. But there's a name for it. I can't think about it right now, but I did that actually, but they didn't call it because it was the game was just it was that way out of reach, ran that diagonal. Boom time hit me. It was it was my I needed I think like fifty five catches or something. That was my fifty fifth catch to hit my last incentive in my contract. Yeah, so Tampa's cool, cool like that.

01:38:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you ever have incentive based stuff in your contracts in New England?

01:38:38
Speaker 1: Yes?

01:38:39
Speaker 4: Never? Did you ever miss one?

01:38:42
Speaker 1: My last year in New England, I basically missed them all, but my second last year in New England, I base I hit them all. Did you really? I fout out myself again going into that last year, but halfway through, half way through, I didn't even care about them anymore. It was just like I gotta I gotta survive. I'm just trying to survive.

01:38:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was what was the most on you towards the end? Like you're from your body standpoint, I had to survive this.

01:39:05
Speaker 3: It was it shoulder? Was your back at all?

01:39:07
Speaker 1: Again? It was inflammation in my body? Bro insert Adam bobo. Yeah, inflammation, dude, Like it wasn't anything naga while my back was nagging a lot, but I was inflamed. But like like I still have it to this day a little bit like if I go ham one day two days later, like I can't move like I'm inflamed, like I'm slow. I kind of actually have it a little bit today. I haven't worked down like two weeks. I did a hardcore yoga like forty eight hours ago exactly, and like, I didn't go too hard in it because I knew I was coming on. But when I get inflamed, like I'm slower, Like I can't run as fast, and I was like I couldn't recover fast enough and get rid of that inflammation. Even though I started finding ways to do it, It's just at that rapid rate and I was so far behind that just that slowness, just that not that burst anymore. You don't have that quickness either anymore, and it just doesn't want to make you get hit either. Everything hurts then too. So inflammation was, you know, my biggest killer? I would say, is.

01:40:04
Speaker 3: There a story outside of what you've already talked about in past conversations where you were going to get traded to Detroit? You threatened to retire they don't trade you. Yeah, but was there a story behind the scenes about how the organization was kind of handling your situation that isn't known or that you haven't kind of talked about because everybody's aware that you did the whole threat to retire they don't trade do You're back in New England?

01:40:24
Speaker 1: Well, that was a tough year. We lost to the Philadelphia Eagles that year actually in the Super Bowl after we after the comeback versus Falcons, so we went back to back Super Bowls. We were actually almost three Peter, we went to three Super Bowls in a row, but we just lost the middle one versus Egles. But that year was tough, man, I'm talking just the area of the organization. I don't think anyone really enjoyed that season. I'm talking like any player, like it was just weird. But we were dominating, we were still winning, and we went to the Super Bowl. But just overall it was it was tough. And uh what what was the question again.

01:41:00
Speaker 3: About when they were going to they were going to trade you tog.

01:41:02
Speaker 1: There we go. Now, I say that that's why I was bringing that up so that whole year. So then I was being an asshole after that year, you know, like they were trying to get a hold of me. I wasn't answering anything. I was saying shit in the media. I was just being a complete asshole. And then I'm with Monster Energy and Monster Energy has Monster Jam and uh at the at at in New England at Gillette Stadium, and I still haven't talked to anyone in the organization. I was kind of vocal in the media like this year sucked, like kind of shit like that, like miserable here, Like I was one of those guys like like that was like the oral when everyone was saying it sucks to play in New England, Like there was those that one or two years that was when the Eagles players were going to the uh the parade and like ripping on the organization Like yeah, I was one of the guys like saying it sucks to play there like that year, like it was just a tough year just overall. So then I was being an asshole. I go to Monster Jam and I have to have a press conference there and it's all the full like for my announcers like hey, like you got to do the appearance at Monster Jam, And I was like, oh shit. I was like, this ain't going to go over so well. So I show up to the press conference in the whole uniform like I'm a freaking dirt bike rider with the helmet on. I go up to the press conference and they just start asking me football questions right away, and I'm just giving fucking blatant like asshole answers back. And then a week later is when I get the phone call and finally I answered, hey, we're going to trade you. And I never wanted to get traded. Actually, I knew it was going to come down to this sell because of what I was doing. It was the counter reaction, you know, the organization was doing back to me like oh, he wants be an asshole, Well we're going to get rid of him. And that's when Patricia was the head coach at the Lions too, and he's like, all right, well I'm gonna grab Gronk then I'm gonna trade for him. And I got the call. I got traded, but I was prepared. I was fucking prepared. I knew the phone call was going to come. I knew I was going to get traded. I was prepared. Hey, Rob, we're going to trade you to the Lion. I said, you can't trade a retired player. Yeah, right on the spot. I was like, I can't trade me. I'm retired, Like I just retired, Like you can't trade. My agent's like you're a genius. True, I've never been in this situation before. And then finally they Bill was like, well then what the fuck is the problem. When went in, we hash everything out. I was like, the train never went through. Then it got acts and actually it would have been through if I said no problem. But uh, I ended up playing one more year doing I was like, I was like, business isn't done. Like I'm just being an asshole a little bit. Business not done. Let's do one more year. I'm so glad I went back. I was actually about to retire though too. I was really thinking about it, but I didn't feel right going to another team, not at all. I was like, I'm not gonna end up with another team. I'll do another year in New England. And we ended up winning the Super Bowl. And that was my last game in New England, winning that Super Bowl I think fifty three in Atlanta versus Los Angeles Rams. I died with that catch up the middle, the twenty eight yard bomb up to seem to the two yard line, and then Sony Michelle ran the ball right behind me in for the only touchdown of the game. So it all worked out in the end.

01:43:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, man made that year with Philadelphia. So hard was the expectation coming off the prior Super Bowl?

01:44:05
Speaker 1: Uh No, I was beat up a little bit. Still my body wasn't responding how I wanted it to. But uh just aura, Yeah it was that. No, that was last year. Going in was was a lot better than that Philadelphia season. I remember everyone just was pissed. I remember. I mean it's just hard to explain, like what like what like why you just had to be a part of it.

01:44:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, off the field, let's go.

01:44:34
Speaker 1: I like, off the field, You've.

01:44:35
Speaker 4: Done a lot of cameos. I have family guy the clapper. It sounds like a Venaria clapper.

01:44:41
Speaker 1: That's well had. That's why they beat us so bad in the holly Ball. We were staying away from them. These guys have the clap.

01:44:50
Speaker 4: But dude, you've done You've done all of these different SpongeBob square Pants, Got to square.

01:44:54
Speaker 1: Pants still gives me residual checks for like two grand like ship like every like. I mean the show is yeah, I love it, and I'm like, when did I do SpongeBob SquarePants? I remember I sang though like birthday song in one of the episodes. I still get residual checks from it.

01:45:11
Speaker 4: Of all these cameos that you've done, what was like the like the thing you were most excited for? Now do the people call you and be like, hey, we want growing to do this cameo or were you ever like calling your agent me and like I heard this movie's coming out, I heard the show. I love the show How I Met your Mother. I want to be a part of.

01:45:24
Speaker 1: This kind of both, you know, especially at first, I wanted to be a part of cameos, Like I wanted to live that lifestyle. Like I said, I wasn't saying no going to the draft any that movie with Jamie Fox was any given Sunday or right. I love that movie, Like I'm like, I want to live like that they were a part of in the locker room after doing all that good shit, you know, I wanted to live like a movie. So I was just telling my people like, oh, I'll do any appearance in whatever movie. And then my very first one actually basically was the Entourage movie. Loved Entourage growing up as a kid, one of the one of the best shows like that when I was in high school, and I told my friends in high school, so I'm gonna be on that show one fucking day watch And then I ended up getting in the movie, which was really really cool, and definitely I would say That was one of my favorite appearances because what's funny is I was writing my Private Party and so I actually got to this set and I started taking shots with everyone because it was like eleven thirty pm at night and I was going out that night. So I started getting hammered on the spot and in the scene, I'm partying in the scene, so it worked out perfect. Yeah. I was actually hammered for that scene right now? Was that was?

01:46:30
Speaker 6: That?

01:46:30
Speaker 1: Was that line?

01:46:31
Speaker 4: I lived when you stood up and screened?

01:46:32
Speaker 1: No, No, they gave it to me and I took it to another level. Yeah. Yeah, he was super handicapped. I was actually coming off the knee injury, so I was actually at you know, ACL surgery three months prior to that. But then we also put the arm brace on, like my arm was still freaking broken. Yeah, I was had a cane as well. It just just went along.

01:46:57
Speaker 4: Well, what was it like seeing Vinnie, Chase and Drama and all those boys after watching that show for so long and being able to see them, it.

01:47:04
Speaker 1: Was the best. Dude. I love them to this day. I see them at charity events and everything. And seeing Drama. I love Drama, his character and just Drama as well as a person, dude, great dude, it was the best to be just be a part of it, you know, the dream come true?

01:47:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, dream come true? Dude, all this stuff here, we are all this stuff.

01:47:22
Speaker 1: We are pictures right there, right there's the set.

01:47:29
Speaker 4: At Really was that show that if you watched it you wanted to be Vinnie Chase. You'd be like, how do I have the ability to live this life?

01:47:36
Speaker 1: Well, Vinnie Chase was like too pretty, and like I knew I couldn't be Vinnie Chase. I was kind of like I just wanted to. I just want to have a group like that, you know, a group of boys, group of boys like that, because I was kind of like Vinnie Chase, but I was more of like Johnny Drama in a way. I was like them combined, you know, like I got you, dude, that show. You got to watch that show.

01:47:59
Speaker 3: I know I've seen You've never seen the movie.

01:48:01
Speaker 1: You've never seen the show Man the movie too. There's many the show blows away the movie though, like absolutely.

01:48:09
Speaker 3: Blow Is he not?

01:48:12
Speaker 4: Is he maybe the best character of all time?

01:48:14
Speaker 1: Written character character? God by Fire Drama you know competes with it, but he is just phenomenal dude.

01:48:20
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody touches in the show. He is so outstanding. Taylor, He's all right. I knew I saw you looking at me too. I got the frenchy. He's pissed off as I step out of the batter's box in baseball, we can't. Yeah, one wasn't a huge fann't he wasn't a huge fan.

01:48:38
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.

01:48:41
Speaker 1: Well that's why I like you a lot more. Man the show for you.

01:48:44
Speaker 3: Well, all the stuff that you've done off the field. It's it's rumored that you never spent a dollar of your NFL earnings. Is that true?

01:48:55
Speaker 1: Technically it's not true. Uh, well, it actually started working because Drew game fifty thousand.

01:49:00
Speaker 3: Technically it's not true. Technically it is true.

01:49:02
Speaker 1: Technically it is true. Yes, what did I say it's not true?

01:49:06
Speaker 3: Nical?

01:49:06
Speaker 1: Well, technically I was wrong there, but technically it's true. I meant it's true. Drew roshand was actually gave me a fifty thousand dollars up front, like marketing budget at the beginning, and you got to pay them back over the time the first fifty grand you made. So I actually took that fifty grand. I bought me a car, you know, I paid for my spot up in New England actually with it, and then as I was getting a couple of deals, I paid them off. But just overall, you know, I actually I'm very frugal, you know, and lived you know, with a roommate my first couple of years. I didn't know how long the NFL was gonna last. I was a second round pick, so it was like a four year, four million dollar deal, and I was like, if I played this contract out, I'll be set for life. I got two million dollars in my bank, I can make a hundred and two hundred thousand dollars of interest. I was like, if I only played three four years, I'm good. And I wanted that situation for me too, that I could be good as well, Like like if hey, if I don't ball, if I'm not the player, you know that, I think I could be whatever, I'm still set for life, because two million in the bank is set for life to me, you know at that time. So I just always wanted to save it and I just used my money that I was getting off the field to just spend it on whatever I needed to spend it on. And then Therefore it just kept continuing and to this day, technically I have not spend any of.

01:50:24
Speaker 3: My into crazy. How when you're young, you have the mindset like, if I'll have two million dollars, I'll be set for life. And I know, obviously two million dollars is a lot of money, But as time goes and you get older in your lifestyle that you do have, you're like, oh, fuck, two million. Two million wouldn't get me very far if I continue to like live the way you think you can live right first on a deal for like four years four million dollars.

01:50:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's scary how there's always a new level to it. Like you think, if I can get to this point, that's all I need, blah blah blah. But then you get to that point and you're like, what is this?

01:50:54
Speaker 1: What's going on here?

01:50:55
Speaker 4: There's a private aviation you can get on a plane and just kind of go where you want. That's pretty crazy, and always just it's always changing. It's always, Yeah.

01:51:02
Speaker 1: I told you he's gonna be quiet the whole entire time. He's gonna let us know when it's his turn. And now he's letting us know it's his turn, all right, but buddy, buddy, we still got a little bit longer, just a little just a little bit harder. We'll give you.

01:51:15
Speaker 4: We'll give us ten, buddy.

01:51:16
Speaker 1: Give us a little bit longer. Buddy. I told you though, I call him. I know this guy way too. Uh yeah, see, come do come up here, good dog.

01:51:24
Speaker 3: Don't you think about old Ravees in New England?

01:51:26
Speaker 1: I think that's I mean, I was waiting for this subject to come up actually because you guys know Rabes. You guys both played for him. But I think that's the perfect fit, you know, for New England overall, just for the organization, for the fan base, for the Craft family. Uh you know, I just love his mantra. I love what he stands for. I never really met Rabel before, just for a quick second. I've heard plenty of stories of him because he was that first era of being a you know, a Patriot and winning all the Super Bowls, but just to see the way he progressed as a coach too. That's why he's such a good fit too for New England, because he's established. He put his time in as a player, put his time in as a coach, going to Ohio State, working his way up going to Houston is like what DC or whatever and getting the head. So he took a step every single way to get to where he is and I think he just has the personality just from just seeing it and just hearing from other players that I think he's the truest perfect fit possibly possible for the second era, you know, after Bill Belichick and what they're doing so far in New England. I mean, you can't really argue with any of the moves that they have made so far. I think they have made every move, you know, correctly with the draft, with who they took, all the way from free agency, they had all that money, they went and got the guys they needed to get for the positions they needed to get. You never know, though, like when you make a team out of free agency, you never know how it's going to be. A guy like rabel I feel like he can gel him because he's a guy that can gel people from I mean he played offense before special teams defense.

01:53:00
Speaker 3: Those guys, Yeah, they'll tell you, He'll tell you.

01:53:02
Speaker 4: He'll tell you. He's done it all too. I mean, fourteen years in the NFL and he's been the guy on every part of the entire roster. I mean, if you look at like the Titans in twenty twenty one, I think they set a record for the most players played because of all the injuries, and we were the number one seed going into the playoffs. Obviously we lost the first round we played, but that that shows a guy that can gel his team. I really, I think it just depends on Drake May. If Drake May can show up in a big way and take a step from here one year two, like the Patriots could be good, actually good with all the with all the free agency acquisitions.

01:53:33
Speaker 1: I'm going on record to say that they're making the playoffs this year as well. I don't think you know that they may they have a chance at the division, but the Bells, but it's it's AFC. Dolphins are gonna dolphin. You know, they're gonna look beautiful real quick out of the water, and they're gonna sink back down. The Jets. Yeah, I mean, we know they're just too far away still, I mean, uh, and then the Bells are gonna you know, Bills are good, they're established, They're gonna obviously be the dominant. But I think the Patriots they can they can sneak into the playoffs this year. I can see that. I don't think they're gonna, you know, compete for a super Bowl, but I think in the end, in the two three years, possibly yes, But this year they're going to be making a big impact.

01:54:16
Speaker 4: I mean, if you go from what the fourth overall pick this year to the playoffs the next year, that's a huge jump.

01:54:21
Speaker 3: We should get a speaking of since we're all team fan duel, we should get a little futures parlay going. I want to say the Commanders over unders nine and a half, Titans are five and a half and Patriots are seven and a half. Wins, get a little combine them all, futures bed hit the overs, hit the overs on them all.

01:54:39
Speaker 1: Why are we hitting the overs with the Titans? Why can't we each do the over and then the Titans we do the under.

01:54:44
Speaker 3: You think the Titans will struggle in that win over get six games?

01:54:47
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Now, how many did they get last year?

01:54:50
Speaker 4: Three?

01:54:51
Speaker 1: I think they got three. I think they got four or five in them this year? No, was it five? I know this is the improvement. Yeah, they got they got the quarterback number one overall pick. But I'm just saying overall what else did they get. This is a good page they did.

01:55:02
Speaker 4: They paid a left tackle eighty million dollars and they're gonna move their left eckle from last year. Put all seventeen games. He was a top ten pick over to the right side. They got Zeitler at right guard. Now they got Cushion Berry at center. And then you have a guy going to his third year that was a eleventh overall pick. It's Peter Skronski at left guard. So we have a good offensive line. All right, all right, you got Calvin Ridley and you got two great backs and Spears and Pollard and you got it really depends on like cam Ward can If cam Wore can be who we've kind of seen him be, then they are going to easily win over five minutes.

01:55:36
Speaker 1: It's all on cam Ward.

01:55:38
Speaker 4: It is just like just like just like the Patriots, it's all on Drake May because you got seven and a half.

01:55:43
Speaker 1: We got five and a half. With that breakdown, you know, I feel more comfortable taking me over.

01:55:47
Speaker 4: I will say, well, let me put a meeting tea meeting.

01:55:51
Speaker 3: Maybe we go both options and under one, well under seven and a half.

01:55:57
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got we gotta go over if I say they're making the play, you're saying can be over. Yeah, and that's a weak division as well. You know monster, you have a monster yeah with the Bills. But going over big, I'm going over big time.

01:56:13
Speaker 4: We're all just going to be so biased.

01:56:15
Speaker 1: And then what's the.

01:56:15
Speaker 3: Commander is ninety and a half and half, which is a big one, but that is Big Daniels in a second year, I mean, and they only upgraded their.

01:56:22
Speaker 1: Team as well. They went out and got some more talent. You know, you got Cliff Kingsbury is off in the corner. He's established. He knows how to handle players, and he knows how to break down players talent as well and use it. So I like the over. We got to do a parlay where it's just all over there.

01:56:36
Speaker 4: But big go up to go up to September fourteenth, it's the first game or September seventh, September seventh, Raiders dub but Pete Carroll, Yeah, the new running back in there, Gino Smith is there. They're going to run the ball, They're going to play good football. Toss up. You said the Dolphins come out of come out of the water early in the season and look really pretty now On's in Miami, and that on's in Miami.

01:56:59
Speaker 1: It's in Miami. But did you see portnoy break down the Patriots schedule.

01:57:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he's a great job.

01:57:04
Speaker 1: I mean they're going seventeen and oh so he did do a great job.

01:57:09
Speaker 3: He did a good jay.

01:57:10
Speaker 1: He did a good job that I like. Usually I looked, I was like five and a half minutes, like the first thirty seconds, the first breakdown of the first game. I was like, all right. I was like, maybe I can watch five and a half minutes. But he was so good and entertaining the first, you know, breakdown of the Las Vegas game, I was like, all right, I gotta watch every single one. I watched the whole entire video and I literally walked away like that was good. It might be seventeen, Yeah, that might be.

01:57:35
Speaker 4: There's a reason why Daves where Dave's act. Yeah, he can talk.

01:57:38
Speaker 1: But Steelers, we're breaking down the whole schedule.

01:57:42
Speaker 4: I'm just looking at seven games.

01:57:43
Speaker 1: They're going above seven. I mean, we got the Steelers number. The Patriots always take down the Steelers no matter what you guys.

01:57:48
Speaker 3: Have, we just do schedule. You got the Panthers it's very favorite Saints, Browns, Falcons.

01:57:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, we feel good about seven and a half. There, Jets, we feel good about it.

01:57:58
Speaker 1: We're going over seven and a half. Yeah. Yeah.

01:58:00
Speaker 4: The Titians, I know, I talked a big about their offense, but they are going to have holes on defense, like they're going to have their cornerback. Their secondary is going to be a tough position.

01:58:08
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be tough on a rookie quarterback then too, because if rookie quarterback needs help from the defense in order to get truly established and understand everything going on and.

01:58:17
Speaker 4: From behind all the time exactly.

01:58:18
Speaker 1: And when you're playing from behind as a rookie, it's tough to get over that hump. Then you know, it's tough to win games. I mean, you got to be truly established as a quarterback in order to understand, like, all right, this is what we got to do from behind, this is what we got to do with a shitty defense, right, that's hired to understand your rookie year.

01:58:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know in the.

01:58:35
Speaker 1: NFL at that position. But uh, I'm down. I'm down the dude, I'm down to parlay. Actually, I got my phone right here. I'm gonna put the parlay in right.

01:58:43
Speaker 3: Now, at least build it so I won that bet.

01:58:46
Speaker 1: I won that bet last night. Florida Panther is taking down you know, the Toronto maple leafs in game seven?

01:58:52
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01:58:52
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01:58:56
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02:00:04
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I got the odds for the Tennessee Titans regular season wins, but they give plenty of odds. You can do over three and a half wins, or over five and a half wins, or over seven and a half wins. So you're saying the standard odds though, are over five and a half wins.

02:00:18
Speaker 4: What does it say?

02:00:19
Speaker 1: Straight up? I don't know. It's minus one thirty for five and a.

02:00:22
Speaker 3: Half wins, and then that's the one that they'll be.

02:00:24
Speaker 1: All right, So that's the one we want right there? So how do I parlay that? Do I go to another bed? All right, I'll go to the New England Patriots? All right there, Washington commanders, click that. So what we want to over nine and a half wins? That's minus one time. That's the one we want then all right, all right, there we go that that parlay, same game parlay. And now we're going with the New England Patriots. Where are you guys right there? Over under seven and a half minus one fifty. That's it, just clicked it all right? Oh now it's a plus four seventy three overall.

02:01:03
Speaker 3: Four seventy three for this so how much?

02:01:06
Speaker 1: So this is a future bat. I'm gonna do it.

02:01:08
Speaker 3: Don't do it yet. We might get it.

02:01:10
Speaker 1: We could.

02:01:10
Speaker 3: We could get a little juice from FanDuel. Yeah, like we tell them, we get we get done with the bus, we hit a FanDuel. Hey, we want to put this rock and the boys parlay.

02:01:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm gonna I'm gonna put a put a little something on it now and then I'm gonna go big when they give us that little juice. Yeah, so I'm gonna do I'm gonna do three hundred. There we go, three hundred right there, three hundred. I'm gonna win fourteen hundred. Okay, that's about right there. I'm feeling good, We're all feeling good about it.

02:01:38
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about this tier talk right now. Our Tier talk today is gonna be best movie couples, So that's what I'm hearing.

02:01:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, best movie couples, which is tough. I thought about it is it's very hard.

02:01:48
Speaker 1: I love like the outside football talk. I thrive. Football is great to talk about, but I can't talk too much football. I really can't.

02:01:55
Speaker 4: If it came out, you're to talk about more than just football.

02:01:58
Speaker 1: I love talking more. I love off the old time. Yeah, breaking conversations. My uh so, what's this one?

02:02:03
Speaker 3: I'll kick it off with tier talk.

02:02:05
Speaker 1: All right, Sorry, tear talk is what I live for.

02:02:08
Speaker 3: Tier three, Tier two, Tier one. You're ranking them three all the way. We got honorable mention as well. You can anson all right, and for an honorable mention, my first honorable mention is going to be Noah and Ali from the Notebook. It's a movie that will stay in the test of time. Great love story. I do enjoy love, and sticking on the theme of love, enjoy love. I do enjoy love. I love a good tier drinks.

02:02:30
Speaker 1: Love is the greatest drug out there.

02:02:31
Speaker 3: Amen. Amen. My Tier three is going to be Jerry and Holly from PS I Love You. Great tier jerker movie, right there, Great tier jerker movie where Jerry knows he's going to die and he writes these little ps I love you notes all throughout her life she finds them. It is a very great love story. My tier two is going to be Rocky and Adrian one of the best proposals of all time, where he says, hey, you know, what are you.

02:02:56
Speaker 1: Doing for the next forty to fifty years And she's.

02:02:59
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know why. He's like, you wouldn't mind marrying me too much? Anything right, And she's like, huh, He's like, you wouldn't mind marrying me too much? She says, yes, Rocky Adrian. Great love story. That is my tier too. My Tier one is none other than Shrek and Fiona O great ones.

02:03:18
Speaker 1: Oh man, you.

02:03:22
Speaker 3: Know it gets into the end. She loves Shrek. She doesn't want to be with the prince, she doesn't care to be the queen. And that is all time love story. That is my tier one.

02:03:30
Speaker 1: I watched that with Camille last year for the first time, and I'm in love. I'm in love with Trek.

02:03:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shrek is a great, great movie. Have you watched all of them since?

02:03:41
Speaker 1: In some comparisons? Yeah, I can't believe you didn't say that.

02:03:44
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, no homo, I think you're no paus really too, I think you're a good looking cat. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah you're not.

02:03:52
Speaker 1: I'm in a way.

02:03:53
Speaker 3: You got some ogre tenons.

02:03:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. Yeah, shrunkk it kind of looks like me a little bit.

02:04:02
Speaker 4: So now we give one word to describe how we feel about will Scheer talk. I'll go first, hyphenated, saved it.

02:04:09
Speaker 1: What was your one word, saved it? That's two hyphen Oh that's one. Uh spectacular yeah mm hmm.

02:04:22
Speaker 3: Thank you boys.

02:04:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, shrunk, m lovely, buzzer beater, emotional, money, strong, touching.

02:04:41
Speaker 3: Wow, thank you boys, thank you.

02:04:43
Speaker 1: Wow. I was getting turned on from all those descriptions.

02:04:47
Speaker 3: Because yeah, because you got that, Uh, I get that.

02:04:51
Speaker 1: And yourself really did feel it back there. The emotions a boy's emotions.

02:04:56
Speaker 3: Taylor, would you like to go second? Or should we go? Do we want to throw the grunk?

02:05:00
Speaker 1: All right? So just best movie couples? Yeah, all right, my honorable mention. I'm gonna go with my girlfriend and Channing Tatum in in the movie Oh shit, what was that movie that she was in? Free Guy? In Free Guy? It was the opening scene. Yeah, it was really it was really touching. It's honorable mention because they weren't really dating, but like they kind of where it was like going on a date, like the opening scene. It was. It was, but I gotta give it honorable mention.

02:05:32
Speaker 3: He's a rocket, Yeah, I know he is, and he's got moves. B you talk about dance.

02:05:36
Speaker 1: I know, I wonder what happened behind the scenes. Yeah, So, uh, that's honorable mention. You gotta see it, free guy. It's a great movie. She's not she's a hot chick in the beginning in the car with Channing. Yeah, yeah, there they are right there, and that's bad ass. Yeah, that's a good one. It was a badass scene. So I gotta give her some credit there. She did very well throughout that whole movie. And then uh, I'll go with number three. I'll go with uh, Justin Baldini and Blake Lively and it ends with us. Yeah. I still haven't seen the movie, but it's talked about so much that I gotta, you know, put them in in in that ballgame of being top three. I mean, when you talked about that much, it's got to be a power couple, you know. Throughout the movie. It ends with us, So that's number three, Number two, Tier two, I'll go with Shila Buff you say for Shia La Buff and uh Megan Fox in the Transformers Transformers one one. Yeah, that's yeah, that was excellent, dude, who doesn't love you know, Transformers one and and they were like an ultra power couple in that movie, and uh number one. You know it was a real life relationship at the time too, and also they made one of the best movies of all the time. I'm a big action guy, mister and missus Smith and Jolie and Brad Pitt. Yes, it hit all aspects of that category because they are a real life relationship. It was a relationship in the movie. And it's also an action movie and I love action movies. So that's number one by far for me. Mm hmm.

02:07:16
Speaker 3: My word fireworks is that two words?

02:07:21
Speaker 1: Is that fireworks combined or or with the little dash like fire dash words?

02:07:25
Speaker 3: Fireworks is one word.

02:07:27
Speaker 1: It is one word. You're right, Yeah, that's how you're using it the way you're using just testing making sure.

02:07:34
Speaker 4: My one word amazing, boys, shrunk, shrunk again, perfect, incredible, strong, hyphenated, gronk, spike.

02:07:50
Speaker 1: Okay, that's one word. Solid, Elite.

02:08:00
Speaker 4: And Mister and Missus Smith is one that's not on my list, And if I could redo it, I probably would because it's so great, but I'm not gonna take it. My Tier three is gonna go to Test and Finn from Fools Gold that's played by Kate Hudson and Matthew McConaughey. Now at the beginning of the movie they're getting divorced. The whole movie, they're getting divorced towards Dan. You'll have to watch it spoiler alert. They get back together. It's a beautiful one in Matthew McConaughey looks phenomenal movie. Not to educate.

02:08:25
Speaker 1: I actually just read his book green Light. I just finished it. This song very solid. Any chance if you like to read books, read Matthew McConaughey's book.

02:08:33
Speaker 4: Shout out Matthew McConaughey. My Tier two is gonna go to Vanessa and Deadpool. In the first movie, the passion that those two have with each other, trying to outdo each other, and how bad their child childhoods are. They didn't get engaged with a was it a ring pop?

02:08:51
Speaker 1: And then all of a.

02:08:51
Speaker 4: Sudden, the big C word comes and obviously we know how the whole entire movie goes. My Tier one is gonna go to uh, Jeremy Gray and John Beckwith from Wedding Crashers. You probably say, Taylor, that's two guys. They weren't married. Life in business is like a marriage with your best friends. Those two working together tirelessly during wedding season to grab and stab all these other beautiful women is something that takes a lifelong friendship to achieve, which is a marriage. And that is why they're my tier one.

02:09:28
Speaker 1: All right, I'll go first. I'll say creative because of the of your Tier one.

02:09:34
Speaker 4: Thank you, waam, greatest hits, Mazzele, top.

02:09:42
Speaker 3: Ring, Pop, silver medal, those are those are both need gotta say hyphen.

02:09:53
Speaker 1: Hyphenated. Third place?

02:09:56
Speaker 4: Boom boom boom, how many.

02:10:05
Speaker 1: Three booms?

02:10:05
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, boom boom boom?

02:10:09
Speaker 1: Great?

02:10:10
Speaker 4: Here can you understand? You understood the assignment?

02:10:14
Speaker 1: Like I said, man, outside of football, I love conversation like football. Can you know go for so long?

02:10:20
Speaker 3: Yeah?

02:10:21
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02:10:49
Speaker 3: So.

02:10:49
Speaker 4: I got the left leg up here, I'm gonna bring that down, bring that all the.

02:10:53
Speaker 3: Way there right there.

02:10:55
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02:10:58
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02:11:04
Speaker 4: Great job, True Classic. They look good, so you can play good. Let's get back to this episode.

02:11:11
Speaker 3: Here's a football here's a question in the football world. However, I think it involves you being a student of the game and giving game to the fellow young ones out there. During the COVID year when a lot of things were virtual.

02:11:22
Speaker 1: You are.

02:11:23
Speaker 3: There's a story about you potentially wearing different T shirts while you're doing a sprint workout to send it in give some game to the young counts out there, and how you game.

02:11:30
Speaker 1: Yes, you got it. Work smarter, not hired or Borys. You know, that's what it's all about, and that's what you know, keeps you around a lot harder too. So you can work as hard as you want. But if you're doing something that's making you insane and you just keep working harder, you're gonna get more insane, you know. But you gotta work smarter, so you're supposed to. You know, during COVID, you were doing all the workouts at home and you had to send it into an app that you were proved to prove that you were doing the workouts. So you actually had to film yourself like benching and film yourself, you know, running the routes or running the sprints, but you didn't have to do the whole entire bench like it was like your last set, or you would have to, you know, show like two of the runs that you were doing. So instead of filming myself running every time, I just filmed so that day you have twelve runs, so you got to show two of them. So instead of filling myself every single time to submit the runs, I brought out six different T shirts and every two runs I would switch my T shirt up and then film the whole entire run that day, and then I would submit those two runs with a different T shirt on every single time that those moments came up that I had to submit it, and so I tricked them. I tricked them, So technically maybe I didn't run that day then because I was like, I'll just use the video.

02:12:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hit the bench.

02:12:44
Speaker 1: Tricked them.

02:12:45
Speaker 4: When did do you? Did you tell on yourself or did somebody ever find out?

02:12:48
Speaker 1: I told on myself, told the story to the reporters actually that year and then like once like like what the fuck? I got everyone hitting me up? You're an ass? He thought it was great. That is a funny, funny piece of game.

02:13:05
Speaker 2: Uh.

02:13:06
Speaker 4: Last question, the bud light question. Everybody knows anybody they would do anything for a bud light. What is one one thing that Rob Gronkowski would do anything for? Can't say family?

02:13:18
Speaker 1: Oh uh, well my dog's technically family, right yeah, yeah, girl, technically family. Yeah. So what would I do anything for? Ah? Dang, you know that's that's a really good question. I would do anything to be happy at all times twenty four to seven.

02:13:45
Speaker 4: That would be something special.

02:13:47
Speaker 1: Well, you can't go against that, right, Oh you know, I don't think, Yeah, they'd be happy at all times.

02:13:52
Speaker 4: What about what about playing your junior of college?

02:13:55
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, physically that's mentally so now physically I would go back. I would love to play my junior year in college. And also I transferred my senior year in high school. If I could somehow play that year that I played in Pittsburgh but also play the year at my old old high school as well. Yeah, so if I could like do double senior seasons in high school and play the year my junior year in college at Arizona, because you do you like when you leave, like you missed your boy, like I left my boys, like in high school. You know, I went to a different school. I was getting trouble and stuff. There's a lot more to it. But then I went to Pittsburgh my senior year. But like, you know, I'm still friends with all those guys like to this day, and like you're leaving them, you know, I mean it's for the better in the end, Like it worked out for sure, but like still like you wish you could. You know, you watch all the high school movies and everything, like Friday Night Lights and like you wish you could finish strong with the people you started with, but it just didn't work that way. And same with you know, my third year, you know, at the University of Arizona. So I would do anything. You're right mentally to be happy at all the times. So it's being happy's great, like and energize and energize and then physically go back and play those years.

02:15:13
Speaker 4: I love it.

02:15:13
Speaker 3: What's something you weren't necessarily prepared for kind of kind of came as a surprise, like during retirement, Like you're a guy Hall of Fame career, one of the best to ever do it, and you obviously tasted retirement that one year and then you came back to Tampa Bay. But now you're like officially retired. What's something you feel like you didn't necessarily see coming with retirement?

02:15:32
Speaker 1: You know, being on a routine. You know, when you're playing ball and you're an athlete your whole life, you always have a routine. You gotta be at practice, you gotta you know, be in the film room like it's there, like it's handed to you like a you know, a schedule every single day, that routine you know what to do and get prepared for and then once you retire, that routine's totally thrown out the window. It's kind of up to you now to schedule, you know, when you're going to work out, when you're going to do this, when you're going to study, all that good stuff. So just getting on a routine and when you totally get off of it as well, it fucks with you. You know, like you're you're kind of like mentally weak. Sometimes you're flying all over the place, you're not doing the right things, you're not getting your workouts in, uh and and all that good stuff. And you're just so used to doing all that, you know, on a continuous basis, even if you don't feel like it. You have to do it when you're an athlete because everyone else is doing it. You don't have that push around you. So that that was that's the tough spot, is getting that push, you know, to get to the next level. And also that routine of always you know, being on the grind and getting things done.

02:16:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when it's snowballs, you're just laying there and you just get so mad at yourself from falling out of a routine. Yeah, then you start talking to yourself like in ways like you said, like mentally weak, Like I'm fucking for right, Look.

02:16:43
Speaker 4: What's happened to you? You look at an old photo of yourself, like that guy worked hard.

02:16:47
Speaker 1: But you guys, you guys got it down though, Like look at you guys that keep each other, you accountable. I bet you know doing the show, you got to get a routine and you know, get prepared for it. You know, study up. Same thing with myself and Julian. Uh, we got our podcast Dudes on Dudes, So you got to prepare for that, get mentally readily kind of physically ready to because you want to be physically feeling good at all times. It keeps your mental game sharp. So you just got to find, you know, the guys out there that want to get on the same page with you and want to do that as well.

02:17:15
Speaker 3: What is it like diving into the podcast world with jewels, Yeah, it's great.

02:17:19
Speaker 1: And what's great about it, Julian already had his podcast games with names, So yeah, Julian was experienced the podcast. I never thought it was like really for me. I always liked going on people's podcasts, but I was like, I said, no, for like ever, I was like I don't want to start my own podcast. But then once I went on Julian's and we had the chemistry, and then I saw that Julian can carry the load of the podcast too, the load. We were just talking about that on Sunday Conversations. He's like, oh, Julian takes the whole load of the podcast. I was like, yeah, so that just brought you a kind of trigger to my mind. But I was like, all right, so he's going to be the like, he's going to be there to help me along and everything, and it's just great to have a teammate. So I was like, this is perfect. And his team around him was already experienced, everything set up ready to go right when you walk in. So I was like, I can do it now, and it was just the right fit. It's kind of like going to Tampa had to be the right fit.

02:18:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you travel out there to do it each time you guys do the pod?

02:18:09
Speaker 1: Well, I'm in La all the time for the pregame for the Fox show. Uh So we usually just knock out an episode or two on like that Monday or Friday or something, and now that it's offseason, we get together like we were just in Boston last week. We knocked out two episodes. But if we're not, we just do it over zoom. Got Yeah, so half of them right now in the season are over zoom. The other half are one we can get in person whenever we can. That's awesome.

02:18:31
Speaker 3: And we got to get all the boys together.

02:18:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can get the four of us in one room. That'd be awesome.

02:18:35
Speaker 1: There really was, the dudes, it would be good stuff. Gosh, are you guys? Basically you guys are like football with a little all football with a little everything else as well.

02:18:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like probably seventy percent football and the off season two. Like I mean we have like comedians, musicians, like all coaches, players, all these different things.

02:18:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we were. We were basically out football in the first couple though, and I was like, bro, I'm not all football, like like I can't. So now we're switching up with like fan questions or like or that like tier talk that we just did with the movie couples. Like we come up with segments like that now too, And I'm like this is way better. Like football is great for half of it, but the other half. I wanted up this freelance was going on what you're doing at the moment, like what you learn, like new technique, new trick in life or whatever with new hack, just whatever, just go off. So not just all about football now we're kind of blostoming more like because of it, hot topics whatever he's talked about right there. So football is great, I mean, but like to do it twenty four seven. I like, I like abroad of you know, of everything.

02:19:35
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that, absolutely with you before we let mister Gronkowski go. Does anybody have a question back there?

02:19:40
Speaker 1: They like to ask anybody feel free. I thought that guy in the middle would ask me where I get my ivs from me? You know, we already brought it up where you guys get your ivs from you in Nashville. So yeah, he does do a good job. You know. I don't want to give him the credit, but he's gonna yeah. And he does rehydrate you well. So these unbelievable nurses there that work really hard, yes, and they actually deserve all the credit, all the women nurses that he has hired rite in Nashville. They do get you hydrated and filled you up with the best vitamins in the game. Those solid Yeah, the nurses you run that company.

02:20:20
Speaker 4: Run it run. Yeah, I really do without the nurses all the work at the beginning, yeah started started. Yeah, but what we do. Appreciate me for the show. You were talking about giving us all free i VS like next two months. So I appreciate you saying.

02:20:33
Speaker 1: I agree, and that is awesome. Thank you. And if you're listening and and you hear this, just walk in and say I heard you're giving out free i V. Yeah, yes, on the grond episode free IV.

02:20:52
Speaker 4: So that is big time. But you have to give unity.

02:20:54
Speaker 1: You have to give it. We're not saying any DAL vitamin bag, the athlete bag. You have to give out. Someone comes.

02:21:00
Speaker 4: But you remember he was saying.

02:21:01
Speaker 1: You were saying that he was giving all of us n A D for free. Yeah we're getting a yeah, but they can get If you hear that, you can get a vitamin bag. Yeah, for free. We don't want to bankrupt. No, just a big bag.

02:21:12
Speaker 4: Get in there, small bag too.

02:21:15
Speaker 1: Small, No small bag, big bagsfferent, it's just fluid fluids five cents, even though you get charged one hundred dollars. Gotta make a profit. Got to make a profit.

02:21:28
Speaker 3: Margins are healthy. Yeah, it's like ice cream, ice cream margins, ice cream margins.

02:21:37
Speaker 1: Did you have a questions? Hey, I got it.

02:21:38
Speaker 3: Yeah.

02:21:38
Speaker 1: When when do ice cream companies make their most amount of money? Yeah? Like what month?

02:21:45
Speaker 3: July?

02:21:47
Speaker 1: June? See, that's what you think. It's actually May. It's like right when the weather blossoms, because everyone wants to hurry up and get there. I heard they make all their money for the whole year. Yes, June, July, and August are great, but when it's truly packed, it's the first month that it as the sun comes out. I learned that. That's what That's why I've been that's crazy because everyone goes crazy. It's like when the weather's nice outside. How how bzonkers is it outside WI.

02:22:11
Speaker 4: The first week around?

02:22:12
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well later in the summertime you go out on Saturday, it's like, ah, people like, oh, we've seen the sun every single day now.

02:22:17
Speaker 3: Yeah.

02:22:18
Speaker 1: Right, everyone goes ape ship when it's the first you know, week of nice weather. Same with the ice cream world when.

02:22:24
Speaker 4: It comes it comes to the ice ground. I don't discriminate on weather. I'll take down on ice cream.

02:22:27
Speaker 1: In the middle of January.

02:22:29
Speaker 4: I love that stuff. Love it. Go ahead, Jackie.

02:22:32
Speaker 5: Was the Steve Harvey lego head spike scripted?

02:22:35
Speaker 1: Damn, damn, that's a good question, and everyone wants to know that. Actually, it's still talked about to this day. That was a legendary moment by far. We were hosting New Year's Eve on Fox, and uh, I spiked Steve Harvey lego set of of his head, of his face. But uh, what was scripted was that I was gonna spike it. Like I knew I was spiking it. They had me, uh in the script, Hey, grink, you're gonna spike the Steve le Uh, Steve Harvey legos, not Steve Harvey. Steve. My names are all over to place. Steve. You're right, Steve Harvey. I'm getting him confused with another Steve, I know. But the Steve Harvey lego said, hey, you're gonna spike it. So when I spiked it, that that was kind of you know, understood, understood, that was kind of But his reaction was not scripted at all. And I'm not sure either if he knew I was gonna spike it or not. I knew I was going to from the beginning. I'm not sure if he knew, but his reaction was priceless. Man, Like it felt like he was truly pissed if he truly was, But.

02:23:36
Speaker 3: How was how was the dynamic after around him?

02:23:39
Speaker 1: And he was going he didn't bring it up after like it was like he was like nice Spike, but like he wasn't like out the screen like why the fuck did you do that? No? No, like he acted like that like when it happened. I mean he kind of got me scared. I was like, oh shit, like was I really supposed to do that or not? Like he's pissed. But it was good. It was TV. It was one of my best movements, one of my best moments on TV of all time. I love it.

02:24:05
Speaker 3: I love it.

02:24:05
Speaker 4: Boys, We feel good.

02:24:07
Speaker 1: Any other questions back there? I know, but I don't like telling anyone that's scripted because everyone truly believes it was like right on the spot, like I decided to do. Steve sells it. Yeah, he sells it big time. Yeah he solid that good. So yeah, it was scripted, but it was kind of it was unscripted. Scripted unscripted scripted.

02:24:22
Speaker 4: Let's give Rob around applause boys, thank you the prevn on the b thank you guys for having us man bossing with the boys.

02:24:29
Speaker 1: That's what's up man, Thank you for yes. Oh yeah, FanDuel is the best man.

02:24:34
Speaker 4: This fall is going to be awesome. I can't wait for it.

02:24:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, big hug, Sidy Kisses.

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