Greatest Housewives of All-Time PT. 2

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, So look a quick disclaimer before we get into my list. Y'all know I wear mini hats. This podcast thing I'm very new to, so unfortunately, when I've recorded this particular episode, my producer wasn't with me, and this is why you always need a producer. So the audio isn't the greatest. But in an effort to get y'all this episode, since y'all been harassing me for so many years, We're gonna roll with the punches. I mean, she is the only reality star that is at the African American Museum of Television right next.

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Speaker 2: To a picture of Claire Huxtable. Bitch, you better work. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back to conclude my Greatest Housewife of All Time list right after these quick ads. Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television. With over ten years of production experience, I've executive produced top rated programs such as eight seasons of the Real House Spots of Atlanta. Additionally, I have created shows such as Netflix is Stylling hollywood Owns number one rated Love and Marriage franchise and TV one's Hollywood Divas, just to name a few. Twice a week on Reality with the King, We'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Last episode, I blew up y'all timeline when I dropped my Greatest holly Wives of All Time lists numbers ten through six. Your reactions were hilarious, add too exquisite on Twitter. Tweeted at the Carlos King understore and give a goddamn yes about no one's opinion when he made his list of top housewives. I love it, well, girl, I do too, Honey, Listen, I said what I said. As a reminder, here's a quick recap of the Greatest Housewives of All Time, numbers ten through six. Number ten we had Danielle Style from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. Number nine is Joseille Bryant of the Real Housewives of Potomac. Number eight is Ramona Singer of the Real Housewives of New York City. At number seven is Kim Zosiak Bierman from the Real Housewives of Atlanta and number six is Charai Whitfield, also from the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Yes, so in this episode, I conclude my Greatest Housewives of All Time list numbers five through one. Now, look, remember this is my list based on my professional experience and expertise as a reality TV producer and executive who has produced over a thousand episodes of reality television. My opinion is not based on who I know and love personally or who I may not know or like personally. Because there are some on this list that I don't like, let's be clear, But I've got to give them their proper props on what they bring to their franchise. So remember keep that in mind as we conclude the Greatest Housewives of All Time list numbers five through one. Coming in at number five Vicky Gobblesen of the Real Housewives of Orange County.

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Speaker 2: You got to give Vicky her props.

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Speaker 1: There wouldn't be a Real Housewives franchise if it wasn't for the Real Housewives of Orange County, and it wouldn't be what fifteen sixteen seasons of the Real Housewives of Orange County if it wasn't for Vicky Goebleson She's the og of the OC and you must give Vicky her props. To be a great housewife, you have to have this delusion of grant. You have to have a level of pomps and circumstance and really thinking like I'm that girl. VICKI has high confidence because she felt like this is my show. I'm confused why you guys aren't saying it is because I started it. And not only that, she gave you so many great moments. I mean, I think this was season one or two when she surprised her son in college and storm in his dorm room.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what mother does that?

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Speaker 1: As to be able to capture that on camera, and for her to do that again without a blueprint, it's legendary in itself. In addition to that, she truly set the gold standard of what a housewife is. She's funny, she's rich, and she can go toe to toe with the girls right like. She doesn't mind getting her her hands messy in the pot of drama that brews when you're shooting.

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Speaker 2: A housewife show.

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Speaker 1: Vickie Goldson never shied away from talking about the Brooks cancer Sada.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell y'all.

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Speaker 1: Something I have worked with many reality stars. I don't think any other reality star will continue filming when they are exposed for allegedly conspiring with this story of Brooks having cancer. And although Vicky said she was innocent, she still allowed herself to film. She still allowed Brooks and her the film together. She allowed herself to talk about it. Amongst these other women on the show, I know plenty of reality stars being one of them where they refused to talk about certain stuff were in their eyes, certain things are off limits and listen, who am.

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Speaker 2: I to judge you? I get it, I understand it. No t noshade, However, dot org.

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Speaker 1: Vicky Govison allowed all of that to be shown and showed up to the reunion to talk about it, and a lot of people said she was living the real life Dirty John story.

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Speaker 2: That's iconic.

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Speaker 1: Vicky Govizon doesn't have to go on another Mexico trip, take a shot, break her ankle like.

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Speaker 2: She is a legend.

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Speaker 1: Because she started reality TV at a time where the assignment was to be real.

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Speaker 2: And the reason why Vicky.

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Speaker 1: Is the og of the OC is because she was able to do all of that without watching anyone else do it. She did it at a time reality TV was all about authenticity. Looking at the Real Housewives of Orange County. Now, the show just isn't the same without her, and you gotta admit that, love her or hate her, annoying or not, Vicky Goebbelson is the face of that franchise and she is somebody who is definitely a missing element in that show of what it is today. Coming in hot at number four on my list of the greatest Housewives of all time is Kenya Moore. Ooh, I'm gonna get so much shade for saying this, but your boy out to be honest, Kenya Moore single handedly changed the Real Houseworks of Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Prior to the show even airing.

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Speaker 1: I've heard nothing but good things about Kenya Moore about how this Detroit legend was serving the girls and twirling all around them.

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Speaker 2: On season five of the Real Hospitals of Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: She came into the scene and showed everybody what a whimsicle housewife looks like, because prior to that, you were seamlessly like married and you know professional, you can read a girl, but you have this elegance about you, or you tried to like you did you know what I'm saying, But King came in, it was like guns blazing, And that's what I mean when I said she changed the direction of the show. It's because she was just a force to be reckoned with. And Portia came into and Porscha was fantastic as well, but obviously Kenya was the standout because she is a word.

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Speaker 2: Kenya can read a bit like no other.

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Speaker 1: Regardless if the other cast members on Atlanta like Kenya or not, Kenya keeps the story driving forward.

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Speaker 2: She is the reason for the season.

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Speaker 1: She's able to make sure scenes happen.

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Speaker 2: She is a producer in that sense. I mean the girl produced a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Pride to being a reality TV honey, Yes, actress producer. Kenya Moore is theater ray reality TV. She had a career before Atlanta, housewife child. She was the ray of Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: Uddy. Anyways, y'all gonna read you for that. I love it. She just gets it.

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Speaker 1: She understands her role on the show. She is the villain of villains. She's polarizing. She is funny, and that's the thing about Kenya. She's funny. And going back to Ultimate Girls Trip, it was nice to see Kenya in that light because she was so funny and likable. And that's the Kenya Moore that I know. On a personal level. I love Kenya Moore. She is a great housewife. She's a great human being. The one thing I wish people knew about Kenya was in real life, she is a sweetheart. She is the only housewife that has never.

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Speaker 2: Yelled at me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a cussed up by the best of the best Kenya Moore. Even when Kenya is mad at me, But one thing she'll say to me is okay, Boss, okay, And I'll be like, oh my god, king is mad at me. Lord Like I don't like him when they're mad at me because I'm like their big brother and I love them so much. But she's a joy to work with. Production. You know, we love working with Kenya because Kenya. Kenya keeps things alive and seeing Kenya keeps the party going. And I'll know you guys may be thinking like, well, is she being real or is she like some producing herself And it's not even that. I think what you guys have to understand is if your cast to be on reality TV, you're there for a reason, and you're there to be your authentic self. And Kenya authentically is funny, and she's authentically shady, and she's authentically a reader like she reads, so that is who she is, and she has great comebacks. She has great reads for the girls. She stands up for herself. I don't know a better woman that can stand up for herself at all these reunions, and I really do feel like people don't have her back. And I'll go a record saying that Kenya fights her own battles. She doesn't rely on anybody. Even if these girls say behind the scenes like you're Kenya, you low key was right, and she'd be.

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Speaker 2: Like, well, bitch, why are you didn't have my back in scene.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these girls, and I will say it, a lot of these girls feel like, well, if I started with.

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Speaker 2: Kenya social media, people gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Mad at me, like it's crazy. And that's the reason why I enjoyed Kenya on Ultimate Girls Group because she was able to really be who she was without other girls. Kinna like, well, if I hang out with Kinga too much, you know, will people read me on Twitter. I can't defend Kinga too much because.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's tricky.

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Speaker 1: No one had that on Ultimate Girl's Trip and she was vulnerable about what's going on with her and Mark. You know her now ex husband, How she was leaving her daughter Brooklyn at home to go on a girl's trip.

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Speaker 2: You saw how her Melissa had a girl of poor You.

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Speaker 1: Saw how Teresa saying like, thank you for defending me.

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Speaker 2: No one defends me on my show.

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Speaker 1: And that's how I feel about Kenya Moore. I feel like all the years Kenya has been on the show, no.

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Speaker 2: One has defended her. And she is a boss because.

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Speaker 1: She still reports to work, does her job and makes us laugh and twirl all the way home and an applause of thank you, thank you, thank you. Kenya legend more number four on my list of the top ten greatest Housewives of all time. Okay, now you know I'm not done yet, but we have to take a break for some ads. Stay tuned from my number three top housewife. Can you guess who it is?

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint.

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Speaker 1: She's Cooper Coco pot This is reality with the King. I'm Carlo King. Let's get back to my greatest Housewives.

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Speaker 2: Of all time?

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Speaker 1: Left coming get a Number three is Bethany Frankel of the Real Housewives of New York City and the words of Beyonce, you know you are that bitch when you call all this conversation, and that is Bethany Frankel.

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Speaker 2: Let's cut to the Chase Y'all.

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New York City will never be the same without Bethany Frankel. Without Bethany Frankel, the show isn't watchable.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is. And that's why.

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Speaker 1: She's number three on the list because when Bethany Frankel is on the Real Housepose of New York City, she brings something so unique to that particular franchise. Every housewife show and every reality show needs a Queen Bee. And when I say at queen Bee, what I mean by that is is the person that is able to poke around everybody in the show, who's able to get along with all the cast members in a very unique way, and their energy forces them to be the leader.

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Speaker 2: Bethany leads the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Bethany leads into the movement of what we're going to talk about. Bethany leads everything that happens with that show. Those women do not know what to do without having a leader, and Bethany is the leader of the Real Housewives of New York City and that's why Eva ree single Lafe time she left, the show hasn't been great. And as much as Ramona is great, Ramona needs Bethany. Is sort of like Karen on Potomac and I love Karen, and I stand Karen, and me and Karen are Twitter and social media friends because I love her.

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Speaker 2: She's the Granddamin, She's everything.

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Speaker 1: Karen will also agree with me that she needs Giselle. Giselle will also agree with me that she needs Karen. And what I want to do is y'all gonna stop thinking that as an insult. It's sort of like being on a basketball team. You need your starting five in order to win the game. Ramona needs Bethany in order for Romona to be great, and she knows that, and it pains her to know that. Every time Bethany leaves, the rating decrease because no woman should have that much power, and I get that. Unfortunately Bethany does. She is funny, she can dress her asshole. Noma played the game better than Bethany Frankel in terms of using the platform of reality television to your benefit.

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Speaker 2: She did it in a.

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Speaker 1: Way where she was able to make multimillions off of that show. Let's go back to a few scenes when Bethany was meeting with leu Anne. Bethany pulled up to meet with Lui in a vehic call that had the Skinny Girl branding all over it, and even Leulanne en scene said oh wow, I mean talked about promotion, and Bethany said, I mean you promote Gucci, you promote you know, Mercedes bands. I can't promote my own brand. And it was in that very moment guys I.

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Speaker 2: Said, Oh, She's on another level.

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Speaker 1: She used reality television the best way possible. She used it in a way that made sense in terms of like, if I got all these eyeballs on me, I better do something with it.

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Speaker 2: Bethany became a multi.

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Speaker 1: Millionaire cover Forbes, a Shark Tank correspondent, or guest co host because of how she used the platform of that franchise.

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Speaker 2: Because of Bethany, they have a.

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Speaker 1: Thing in this business called a Bethany Cause now you know you are that bitch when you have a.

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Speaker 2: Clause named after you work.

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Speaker 1: A Bethany clause is when the networks get a piece of your profit study when you're using the shelf out to make a coin, so that's legendary in itself. She is the Queen Bee, She's the comedian. She can be the villain and the peacemaker all that once. Bethany Frankel is truly the greatest housewife New York City has ever seen. In my most humble opinion, I think Bethany Frankel is the only person who can save that show.

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Speaker 2: Number two, Come and get strong.

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Speaker 1: Of the greatest housewife all time is none other than Teresa Judais. Teresa Judas is someone I've had the esteemed pleasure of working with the first two seasons of the Real Housewives of New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Teresa she was the under dog.

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Speaker 1: We were so focused on Danielle and Dina and Caroline and Jacqueline, like we were focused on like that Manzull family drama, and obviously Danielle being like the villain of all villains on the show that we really saw Teresa's like, oh, she's cute, But we never paid attention to Teresa until the season finale at the dinner at that Italian restaurant and when Teresa Judais questioned Danielle's style and said something about her being unclear or I'm trying to understand, and.

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Speaker 2: Ay Yale sold Teresa to.

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Speaker 1: Be I was engaged up name change.

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Speaker 2: Pay attention please?

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about Ramona's crazy eyes. Teresa eyes when very Ramona crazy. When she was told to pay attention please. You know how said to you in the last episode, Tamrone gag and Scharay said, gonn check me booth. Teresa eyeballs gagged when she was told pay attention please, and she told Danielle, I am paying attention.

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Speaker 2: I am paying attention.

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Speaker 1: You said you weren't gaged nineteen fucking tomes, you.

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Speaker 2: Stupid fucking bitch. Flip the table. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: Your boy, Carlos King was there when Teresa flipped that table. Not only did the cast run Child, some of the producers ranto, you guys gotta understand.

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Speaker 2: This happened back in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: I worked on Atlanta Housewife Child, right, I haven't seen a table flip, so.

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Speaker 2: To see this table flip happen, and.

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Speaker 1: That Teresa was doing, We're like Teresa, not sweet Teresa. That moment solidified Teresa as an icon. And I remember after the scene she called me and she said, so, what do you think.

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Speaker 2: And I said, oh, let me tell you something, baby, you will go down in history as an icon because that table flip would be the most iconic moment in reality TV history. And Teresa gushin you thinks so you think so? I mean really, I said, bitch, absolutely, it will be. And I remember saying as to Teresa back in two thousand and eight after she put the table I said, buckle up, you're about to be a star. You know you are that girl when they stopped production because you're asking to jail. They said, look, y'all, we know we can't film with just Melissa Jack and like I forgot, he's on the show. Like they were, like, girl, we clearly can't film with the other girls without you. We get it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put a pause on Jersey Child until Teresa was out of jail, honey, because we need her. And that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: That's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Even today, Teresa is still very entertaining to watch. And I'm gonna say this, and I know a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of people are gonna be mad at me, but.

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Speaker 1: I gotta keep it real with y'all. Teresa is the only housewife in my opinion that deserves a spin off. This is the crazy thing about Teresa. She has so much more to give. In my opinion, I think Teresa will go down as the most entertaining interesting housewife in terms of having a long position on that franchise. And I just think the sky is the limit for Teresa. She is the best of the best. And the fact that no matter how many people come for her, Teresa is never scared to stand up for herself.

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Speaker 2: She battled so many people at reunions.

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Speaker 1: I know it must hurt their soul that no one can take down Teresa as.

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Speaker 2: Hard as they try, and boy do that she survives. Teresa is a survivor.

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Speaker 1: That's why she is number two on my list of the greatest housewives of all time. The conclusion of my list, it brings me so much excitement to say, who I consider number one on my list of the greatest housewife of all time? This should not come as a surprise. It is the one and only Niani Leaks. This is no surprise and if you are surprised, then you are not a real housewife. Fan Niini Leaks is the greatest housewife of all time, period, point blank. Niani Leaks is the face of Real Housewives. To me and to others, Nimi Leaks is so fun to work with, and I mean, this woman is responsible for so many iconic moments in the history of the franchise. Like I said, from ice popping lips bus in season one to your gates don't work as you raise then you know house going toe to toe with Kim Zosiacs and Gobs nasher wig off your head, close your legs and married men with like she just has so many equips about her. She is a meme queen. I mean, you can literally have a text conversation with your friend and use Nini's gifts and people will understand what you mean. She as a black woman, transcended not only from that show, but to do other things from hosting on the Red Carpet to doing scripted shows with Ryan Murphy. I mean, she is the only the reality star that is at the African American Museum of Television right next to a picture of Claire Huxtable.

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Speaker 2: Bitch, you better work.

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Speaker 1: She's a legend, She's an icon, and she will always be the moment. Nimi Leaks does not have to do anything for the rest of her life, and she would still be that girl, because what she brought to the franchise is fun, over the top personality. So many people are trying to copy her and they all have failed miserably. She is the DNA of Atlanta. She is the DNA of the franchise. She is so beloved in all communities, from black, white, gay communities.

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Speaker 2: We love her.

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Speaker 1: She her legacy will always be a woman, no matter if she meant to that's a joke or not.

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Speaker 2: You laugh at everything she said. I said what I said. Now what she want to do? Okay, because it ain't changing over here, period. Okay. Next, like, she's single.

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Speaker 1: Handily changed the culture of housewives, and she changed the game for black women in.

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Speaker 2: Reality TV period.

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Speaker 1: I cannot tell you because me and Neini are very close, and I remember when all the other reality shows starting Black Women ensemblest were happening because of the huge success of Atlanta Housewives. Some of youall favorite black FEMA reality stars will call Nini and ask for advice. She was say to me like, oh my gosh, Carlos, I meet all these black female reality stars and they stare at me and.

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Speaker 2: They ask me all these questions.

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Speaker 1: And I remember saying to her Niini is because you are doing something with your platform that they have never seen before, you know, as a black woman. For you to be able to have all of these endorsement deals and all this this love from other networks and scripted rose and America loves you, you know what I mean, Like, that's a big deal for a black woman to have reality television. So of course they went to her advice, like child, you that girl, you know what I'm saying, Like, of course they do. But she's a legend. The moment I knew that Nini Leaks was going to be a star, I would never forget this moment ever, ever, ever, ever, so again, I'm always gonna talk about this moment because this is when reality TV was like truly truly, truly truly truly, truly, truly real, and.

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Speaker 2: There was no blueprint.

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Speaker 1: It's when she was not allowed at Charret's house and she cussed out the gate, the security guards, the caterer, everybody, and she did it in a way where as mad as she was, I laughed the whole time because I just saw it to be funny.

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Speaker 2: I thought she was hilarious without even trying to be.

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Speaker 1: And I called my friend and I said, this is about to be the greatest reality showing history. We're only been shooting for five and the shit that I've been seeing so far is hilarious.

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Speaker 2: And she is high hilarious.

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Speaker 1: And I remember saying to her season one when we rapped, similar to Teresa, right, But I worked with Atlanta three months before Jersey. So I said to Sanini first, I said, when this airs, you're going to be the biggest reality start in the world, like number one. And she said, shut up, bitch, No, I'm not you think So I said, girl, I'm telling you you are. And I haven't been wrong. I haven't been and she always will be. We're talking about the greatest season of Atlanta ever, which is season six.

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Speaker 2: And Pillow talk fight.

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Speaker 1: Right, how she prays up and down that hotel suiteet and her pink frock and she slammed the door of Kenya. It said, now can it goes? You look fabulous? Needing you don't, Oh honey, I'll look fabulous. You think you look fabulous, but you really don't. Okay, Like that alone is hilarious, And how she's able to make any intense situation funny like that, to me is the equivalent of an icon, and that's who.

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Speaker 2: Media leaks is.

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Speaker 1: So that my love is my list of the greatest Housewives of all time.

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Speaker 2: Numbers five through one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, y'all fively got the list y'all been waiting for.

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Speaker 2: So look, I want to.

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Speaker 3: Hear your thoughts, your opinions, and your reads. Child, Leave me a voicemail at three one oh eight nine three eight one eight eight or tweek me your hot takes about this episode using the hashtag Reality with the King.

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