Russ Ortiz recalls Bonds bat rack brawl, 2002 WS + Cody Ross talks LA-SD & NY-BOS rivalries
Former Big League starting pitcher Russ Ortiz remembers the 2002 World Series and Dusty Baker giving him the ball from Game 6. He also shares Barry Bonds' stories, including a bat rack brawl and the dynamic between Bonds and Jeff Kent.
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: Hm, former as tease is here. How you doing, I'm good. 00:00:07 Speaker 2: Good. 00:00:08 Speaker 1: I heard you watch a little left tea here and there. You catch some some f T every once in a while, so yeah, territory. 00:00:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean every anytime that I see it on, I stopped and and check it out. And uh, I think, like we were talking about yesterday, just I just love the honesty, the stories, you know, just the perspective that you guys have, like, which is which is nice because a lot of the same perspective I have. But I'm someone that's not necessarily gonna voice. 00:00:38 Speaker 2: Out as much. 00:00:39 Speaker 1: So you got your ten minutes. 00:00:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take it up here, but yeah, it doesn't come out much. 00:00:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, well a j go ahead. I don't want to also introduce him as it. 00:00:51 Speaker 4: Well, well you already talked about that from the story last night. He was the best picture. He was the first guy face and I was like, oh, that's a different because he kind of short armed the ball, right and he just you four seemed cutters and you were the first guy over face that really had like that cutter action because most guys. 00:01:06 Speaker 2: Were sinker Sinker two seem to seemed down in a way. 00:01:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, then I go to face you and Fresno, and I'm like, whoa, I'm gonna have to reevaluate my life after that. 00:01:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:01:15 Speaker 3: I mean in college, I found out I have a heavy ball, you know what they call a heavy ball, and then I've discovered that, you know, it was cutting more than I realized, and so they just tell me you got to just throw that. You gotta keep throwing that, you know down up in all that stuff got to the myer leagues went through there, and uh, once I got to the big league saw how effective that is even from major league hitters. So when I did come down in ninety eight, because I wasn't pitching in the big leagues, they sent me down to make starts, and I mean I had all the confidence in the world because I was able to get those guys out and coming down, you know, I had the attitude of these guys have no chance. And so I think that was huge for me because it allowed me to do my thing. And then once I got back up, I was able to go right in without having to feel like, oh, I need to prove myself again or anything. 00:02:14 Speaker 1: M All right, let's get into the big league career. Yeah, A j where should we start. 00:02:19 Speaker 4: Oh, go start San Frank. He came up in ninety nine. I think he won nineteen. He came up full season, Ye won eighteen games. 00:02:28 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good for your first full year in the big league. 00:02:31 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:02:31 Speaker 4: And then obviously you pitch their pitcher. Pitcher in the two thousand and two was the highlight or low light, depending on how you want to look at it, right, both, Yeah, highlight if you guys get into the World Series. The low light being you were gonna win it. Yeah, and then Dusty takes you out. Do you start the ball? 00:02:47 Speaker 1: I still have the ball? 00:02:48 Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you not want to throw it? Like in the Ocean? 00:02:51 Speaker 3: I framed it? Uh No, I framed it. I mean I took it as something different. I mean Dusty called me in his office said, hey man, he goes. I just thought i'd give him on mental memento from the World Series. Like I've been around this game. Some guys don't never get there, and some guys get there and never come back. 00:03:08 Speaker 1: And I just want to make sure you had a remembrance. 00:03:11 Speaker 3: But I have to believe that everybody thought like that that ball was going to be something sitting on my mantle, that was going to be like, yeah, that's the year we won the World Series, and this is the ball I got to pitch with, So it wasn't the game ball. He's just like it was your ball that you pitched with. So how many guys can actually say that that was his thinking there? And like I said, I think we all thought, you know, we were going to win. I mean we were, we were a good team, so there was no reason to not think that we weren't going to win. 00:03:42 Speaker 2: Do you believe I believe that? 00:03:45 Speaker 5: Do you believe they were motivated because you got to carry the ball off. I've heard so many people say, oh, we saw it, No chance you saw it, but maybe you maybe you see it differently. 00:03:56 Speaker 3: They didn't see it, No, I asked Troy Glass, Darren HER's dad, Benjaminlina, all those guys, they never saw They heard about it. I think one of the players, the the announcers were talking about it that they, you know, just he handed me the ball and all that stuff. 00:04:15 Speaker 2: The story goes. 00:04:16 Speaker 3: Some guy ran down and told another coach and then uh, I forget who was and he just said, did you hear that? 00:04:25 Speaker 2: Guys? 00:04:26 Speaker 3: You know they gave him the game ball and stuff like that, and so but the players actually told me, which was actually pretty sweet, that they said, we were pumped because you were out of the game, so that that. 00:04:38 Speaker 1: Gave us confidence. 00:04:39 Speaker 3: They said, we we thought we had no chance that game, you know, which is a huge boost for for me and my confidence, and you know, that was a really great compliment. But yeah, no, they didn't see it. They didn't see it, so that was that was made up. And and they you know, they just got fired up because they they had a lot of comebacks that year, Volley Monk, he thundersticks, all that stuff, and you know, so they had they had a little I felt that they had a little sliver of a chance at that point and then they, unfortunately for us, made it happen. 00:05:12 Speaker 1: It's like Blake Snell a year later. 00:05:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I've been getting calls every time I started gets taken out in one of those deciding games and saying, hey, can we get you get it talk to you and ask you some questions. And that's that's always, you know, the thing is, you know, bring it up. I mean it until Dusty one with the Astros, I would say that was probably twenty twenty twenty two year period and I got calls and interviewed probably eighteen of those years. Every world serious. Yeah, so those guys kind of stopped. 00:05:51 Speaker 1: One year later a picture was left in a game too long though, right, Pedro? 00:05:56 Speaker 2: Yeah? 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So I was like, that's pretty cool. And nobody got hurt. We got hurt, but I was just like, that's big league style. I was like, that's the big league that I guess. I've always thought thought about him because you see guys taking guys out at second fights and all that stuff. And and so that was my first year and like, man, it's like two two big season dudes, you know, going at it writing the dugout and you know, but it was it was just funny. One of the relievers, he's jogging out there, He's like, check this out. 00:08:13 Speaker 1: What I guess? 00:08:14 Speaker 3: You never guess what happened? And so and then well then him and Jeff can't got into it. I was pitching that day. They were just but there was just you know, more John. But but I mean the other stuff is is like, you know, just watching him hit. I mean, it was just unbelievable the stuff that he did one, you know, one of the years, I mean, he never got pitched to, and when he got a ball, he hit it out and it's just one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. And but you know, I he was great to me. It was nice to me, but uh, you know, didn't really say a whole lot, you know. 00:08:50 Speaker 4: Otherwise, the home run the World Series, I mean there's the famous shot. 00:08:54 Speaker 2: Of Artist one. Yeah, I think that was the farthest one he hit. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: Uh, he had won in Yankee Stadium that was. So I would say either that one or the one in Yankee Stadium, or the two that I remember the most. That was just unbelievable because he had won a Yankee Stadium. I mean, you know right field. I know that's short, but I mean he hit it triple deck, uh and just blasted it. So those were the two that I remember the most. The other ones were good ones, but yeah, I mean nothing that made us in the dugout just kind of. 00:09:34 Speaker 2: Because you expected it. 00:09:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, the only guy ever played with that I expected him to hit a home run now he walked to the play or like, if they throw him a strike, he's hitting a home run. 00:09:41 Speaker 3: And the other guy, the other guy player was big Cat Andres Gallawagan. He was the other guy that I was like, he's going to hit the ball hard and far all the time. And he almost hit the glove in uh real center. 00:09:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that's a ball. 00:09:55 Speaker 1: That's a ball. 00:09:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. He hit it right right at the bottom, right at the so didn't hit the glove, but he hit where the concourse is. 00:10:02 Speaker 2: Did bounce up into the underwear that's up in the glove. 00:10:07 Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned, you know, Barryon and Jeff Kent Jeff Kent, in my mind, should be in the Hall of Fame. In many minds, I agree when you had two stars, I mean, Barry's on another level, but but Jeff was a superstar player. When you have those two jawing, does anyone try to go to Jeff like, like, let's just leave him and let him do his thing, even if you guys disagree, You guys would just let them go at it. 00:10:31 Speaker 3: At first, I think everybody was just like, let him go at it. Yeah, I mean, I think it's one of those things is good for the for the team, you know, to see someone challenge Barry, you know. I mean I don't think they were going to actually fight. I think they were just going to get in each other's face. That's that's what happened. But you know, I remember Dusty came over and pulled Jeff away and he was hot. But I think for us as a team, I was like, this is that was a good thing. That was a good thing to see. You know, someone like Jeff, who you know, he wasn't an outspoken leader, but he came to play every day. He played hard, and he did his job very well. And so he did he did his work on the field, and so it was good to see that, see that he was gonna challenge him. 00:11:14 Speaker 4: Speaking of Jeff, were you there when he fell off the car and his wrists. I was on the team and he was washing his washing his car. I was on the team when I heard heard about it and he came in. They said that he hurt his wrist, and then eventually hear how happy it was, and so all right, man, I guess you know that's his story and looking to it. 00:11:36 Speaker 6: And he stuck to it. Credit he did stick to it for a long Car washing can be very dangerous. Yeah, careful out there, kids, you can slip, very careful. You hurt your wrist for a long time. 00:11:47 Speaker 1: Right, that was the story that they can do it. When you watch the game, Now, what do you love about it? And what do you not love about it? 00:12:00 Speaker 5: Uh? 00:12:02 Speaker 3: I mean I love seeing seeing guys throw throw that hard. I mean, that's that's really cool, and see how they spin it and everything. 00:12:12 Speaker 2: You know, there's. 00:12:13 Speaker 3: A a lot of people. What I hear is a lot of people say that, you know, these are these players are more athletic than than ever. And I'm like, well, if you go back and watch video of you know, guys before we even played the plays that they're making, you know, I mean sacrificing their bodies, you know, and all that stuff. I'm like, yeah, some pretty speedy guys, athletic guys, guys that just do a lot of great things and uh, guys pictures that can throw all day and so so I hear that, I'm like, yeah, I mean, come on, we can't just count you know, uh, the you know, the older generation, you know players, but but a lot of these guys are just you know, very very athletic and skilled, and I'd like so I'd like to see them do a lot more, you know, with with speed, taking extra bases, you know, moving guys over and stuff at at certain times. But I mean that's a part going into what I guess I don't care about the game. Is I see a lot of pitchers just throwing the ball right down the middle of the plate and guys swinging and missing. I'm like, how how are they missing these pitches? I mean, I know they're harder, you can tell me more so, yeah, I mean, but I mean if you're consistently swinging under under under under, I mean, at some point, don't you think, yeah, so that's that's the part. I'm just like, I just don't get it, you know, I don't get that part. And I see a lot, just a lot of pictures. In my opinion, they're not trying to set up guys get them out in three pitches. I mean, we have here at the pro you know, arguably one of the best pitchers I ever lived, and Greg Maddox said, I want action on three pitches. He wants to get guys out in three pitches. And I'm like, you know, that's not even I don't even think that's even a thought at this point or unless they say I'm going to try to get three swings of missus right with ye. So so it's just that stuff. I mean, I I like guys that use the bat, that hit the ball right field, you know, when you when they go just going with the pitch and stuff getting on base, because you're still getting on base, you know. So so I'd like that and the fact that the game doesn't have pitchers hitting in that whole thing. I love the strategy of all that, you know, where teams had to figure out double switches and who you know, how how long we're going to let the pitcher go, are we going to let the pitcher hit? 00:14:39 Speaker 2: Switching? 00:14:40 Speaker 3: So when you're on the mound there and uh, you know, as a pitcher, and you're you're trying to figure out like, Okay, what's the manager gonna do here? Is he gonna let this guy go or pinch hit? Then who are they going to pinch hit? And then so you're you're having to figure out the matchups and beforehand, you're doing all the work to figure out who would they pinch during that time? And then then they throw a guy out there and you're ready to go, and so it's just that strategy stuff, and you know, there's just a lot more movement parts. I think that I really loved about the game. 00:15:13 Speaker 4: Yeah all right, so you played Oklahoma won the national championship in nineteen ninety four. You're a big Sooners fan. I check your Instagram. You're always you know, owe you this, owe you that. But oh you had their welcome to the SEC moment this year in football. So now they're in big boy football. 00:15:28 Speaker 2: There's no more. 00:15:29 Speaker 4: Big age, little twelve, whatever they want to call it. 00:15:32 Speaker 2: I think they can handle the SEC. It means more down there, it does mean more. 00:15:36 Speaker 3: It's it's a lot more exciting, I can tell you that. I mean, there's like, besides the non conference, there's no up and so so everybody's excited about it. But this year, I think a lot of people are gonna I don't want to say surprise, because Oklahoma football you. 00:15:56 Speaker 2: Can't run anymore. 00:15:57 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah that I think Barry Sisters has recently said that if anyone did that, no one would know how to even defend it. But yeah, I don't want to say be surprised, because I think everybody expects Oklahoma football to be good. So so I think this year, though, they will be good. Vena Boles has their defense where he wants it. Last year they showed like what they could really do, you know, defensive wise, and unfortunately they just didn't have much of offense. You know, a lot of guys hurt but just didn't get it done. So so it was really really tough. But that game they've played against Alabama showed like what kind of defense they really have. And this year new offense, quarter coordinator, a great quarterback and jo Mattier coming from Washington State who put up some huge numbers and so so I think this year and A lot of just like a lot of other people. They said that they think that Oak is gonna be one of those sleepers that you know you'll see in the playoffs. 00:16:56 Speaker 4: By the way, the most famous guy on that team, the ninety four Oklahoma team, isn't you is a Mark Redmond who I played with, came up with isn't the minor brothers who I played with? 00:17:04 Speaker 2: It's Tim Walton, the softball coach. 00:17:06 Speaker 4: How the heck do you go from being a college fitcher to the freaking softball coach whin's national championships. 00:17:11 Speaker 3: Yea, Patty Gasso wanted a baseball guy at you know, Patty gassa head coach Olkahomos. She wanted a guy with a baseball mind. And I think she was really one of the first ones in. 00:17:22 Speaker 2: Softball to. 00:17:24 Speaker 3: Uh think in baseball terms as far as athletes, as far as situation, as far as hitting, you know, just the mentality. And so she wanted a baseball guy. And and Tim was your guy. Now that he went every year wins. Every he went to OU, they won. I think he was there their first national championship. He got a job at Wichhall State, turned theirs around, went to Florida turned their program around, and he's won a couple uh national championships and always in the College World Series and it's just yeah, so he kept that thing going. What what he what Patty was wanting? So uh, and he's done an amazing job. And another guy from that from that same team, he's a he's a softball coach. 00:18:06 Speaker 1: Oklall State. 00:18:07 Speaker 3: Oh wow, he's been there for for a while. He's done great and they think they've gone to a College World Series like six out of. 00:18:14 Speaker 1: His eight years. 00:18:14 Speaker 3: And uh, he was my roommate in college. And yeah, he was STIM's assistant coach. It lord, he brought him down. There's two guys with great baseball minds and and that's how they got it done. So yeah, so's it's pretty sweet story. Well, Russ, it was great, great talking with you. Yeah, great, Sorry, I was Susan just twenty seconds. Because we're college college football. 00:18:37 Speaker 1: Dreams were floating in the air and our audience was floating this way. 00:18:41 Speaker 2: But we talked college baseball. That was baseball. 00:18:44 Speaker 1: So it took a turn. It took a turn. I woke back up, back. 00:18:47 Speaker 4: Up when we got out of football talk football, college football or baseball baseball. 00:18:52 Speaker 2: Let's go kiss up, we win. 00:18:54 Speaker 1: We win, my boy, Russ, thank you, good to see it. 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Have you had some good interactions there? 00:20:45 Speaker 7: Yeah, we've had some amazing stories. That's that's what we missed the most, is, you know, being in the locker room. Obviously playing, being on the field, competing, that's what we do out here. It's not doesn't quite give us the thrill of like a big league game, but it's something. But truly we missed being in the locker room, on the buses, on the planes, and just having that camaraderie, listen to the you know, the stories that have been told, you know, ten times over and but yeah, it's been incredible. 00:21:11 Speaker 4: I invited Scott into the locker room yesterday Scott. Scott didn't play any sports, so he doesn't so yesterday for him to sit at the table and get to hear some stories. 00:21:20 Speaker 1: He was like, oh oh oh, I did not make those sound effects. 00:21:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've made worse. 00:21:27 Speaker 1: It was sipping a drink listening, but great stories. I mean, what's been your favorite interaction with somebody that you've met here or spoken to or you know a story sitting down Schmoltzy. 00:21:39 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't. 00:21:40 Speaker 7: I got to play against some quite a bit, never got to play with him. So just hearing some of the stories he tells about No Maddox and you know Chipper and some of the guys that you know, all those guys that he played with for the Brace for so long. Just hearing those stories from you know, decades ago, is pretty incredible. 00:21:57 Speaker 2: So I would say him mostly. 00:22:02 Speaker 1: Let's get your rankings of the top rivalries in baseball right now? What do you think are the top three team rivalries in baseball. There's a hot question right now, you're mastering you because of your Giants dage. I'll give a little bit of context. There's a big crowd that says the best robbery in baseball right now is Dodgers Padres. Because there's also legitimate beet between the two teams. You'll get Dodgers fan saying we don't care them. We have all the accolades recently, but those are two good teams that have great battles, especially in the regular season lately and a few years ago and the postseason went out, I mean last year and a few years ago. Obviously when the Padres won the last year, the Dodgers took it. 00:22:42 Speaker 7: Down, So I would it's funny, I would say, still I think obviously number one for me is the Padres Dodgers. Okay, it's crazy because back in the day, like the Padres were just like a team that nobody really cared about. So it was all ways Dodgers Giants, Dodgers giants, and then you know, the the d Backs try to sneak in there a couple of years and try to create a rivalry with the Dodgers, and it was like, oh, Dodgers and d Backs are, but I still feel like, you know, at the end of the day, I think it's Dodgers Padres right now, even though the history goes back and there's not much, but it's still some Red Sox Yankees I feel like is never gonna go away, even though neither one. 00:23:27 Speaker 2: Of them are in the first place. 00:23:28 Speaker 7: Like, there's just some really good rivalries out there, and uh, you know, it's it's gonna be fun to watch down the stretch. Be a third one because I can't even think of anybody else. 00:23:37 Speaker 4: Right, Dodgers, oh okay, and Red Sox Yankees. 00:23:42 Speaker 2: Those are probably three that most people look at you, yeah, for sure. 00:23:45 Speaker 5: Which one is more heated? Though you were in the middle of Giants Dodgers, you're in the middle of Red Sox Yankees. Which one is more heated? And do you have any examples of like things getting a little crazy? 00:24:00 Speaker 7: I mean, I think Red Sox Yankees just goes back so many years and the history that they have of you know, the fights that they've been in. You know, it's just you can't you can't compare that really to anything. I think they are the number one. I don't think when I was there, we had much beef with them, although it was always felt like so much tension and so much you know, just battling going on. But we never really got into any fights or any bench clearing stuff when I was there. But I would definitely say the uh, you know, red Sox Yankees is number. 00:24:37 Speaker 4: One before you before we get into some golf here, because we're going to talk golf with you. If you would have gotten into a bench clearing brawl, you're from New Mexico, your dad was a bull rider. You were also apparently a rodeo clown to like protect protected writers. So if you got into the bench clearing ball, would you act more of the clown or would you be more of the bull rider where you're attacking the bull or would you be trying to distract somebody so they could get away safely. 00:25:06 Speaker 7: When I was in the minor leagues and we got into some altercations, I was always right in the middle of it. Once I got into the big leagues, these guys are monsters, and I was the guy hiding around the back, like trying to hold my guy back. So I would say in the minor leagues, I was the bull rider in the big leagues. 00:25:23 Speaker 2: I was the bullfighter trying to protect my guys. 00:25:26 Speaker 1: That's good one more for me. On the baseball side, I don't know if you've seen any of the realignment talks right and how eventually they'll add a couple teams and then things are going to get split up differently. It's been talked about for years, just that the commissioner brought it up again recently. Do you think that if it's realigned geographically, for example, with more Yankees and Mets teams like that that usually only play each other inner league style, it will water down a rivalry or do you think it will heat it up based on how often baseball teams meet up and then start to build up a hatred for each other if somebody gets hit by a pitch, right like you've seen rivalries go from there to we actually don't like the other side. 00:26:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would. I would say one hundred percent. 00:26:10 Speaker 7: If they were to realign it and the Mets played the Yankees, you'll say it six times a year, I think the rival would become way bigger. 00:26:21 Speaker 1: You're saying, well right now, I think they played six ish time, no No No. 00:26:24 Speaker 2: Six series of years. 00:26:25 Speaker 1: Oh, sixeri. Oh yeah, series, like. 00:26:28 Speaker 7: We used to nineteen nineteen games against each other, right, and that's when you create the animosity. Some guy gets hit, maybe not on purpose, maybe on purpose, you go in, you know, back to their city a couple you know months later they're gonna drill somebody. And the next thing you know, you go back and forth the cities and it's like you're ready to fight. And so nowadays you only play them, you know, maybe twice a year, and it's it's hard. 00:26:50 Speaker 2: To get back at somebody. 00:26:51 Speaker 7: You have to wait maybe years, and then some guys aren't even on the team at the time. So I think it's going to create way more you know, sort of that animoski of teams. 00:27:03 Speaker 5: All right, trade deadline just passed, obviously, we're talking about all the playoff teams you got traded from the Marlins to the Giants, ended up winning the NLCS MVP couple dingers off of roy Holiday, momentous occasion in your life. But teams are so reticent now, they're so resistant to trading at the trade deadline, no offense. But Cody Ross isn't like the biggest name that ever went at the trade deadline, and yet you have a ring to show for it. Do you think you can pass that along to teams who are like, I don't know, don't want to get rid of my number three prospect in the organization just because there's a chance to win. 00:27:48 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question. And actually I got claimed off waivers, which is even worse the Marlins member. They put me on waivers and the Giants claim me to block me from the Podgres. But yes, I would say, I mean, that's a great great points. He's like a lot of these teams are kind of holding back now and not wanting to let go of their guys. But man, when you have an opportunity to win, and you and as a you know, front office guy, as a manager, as a team like we we know as players, like, hey, we need to go get somebody because we want to win right now. And if they don't make that move, it's like do they even care? Like do we like, what are we doing here? And so when the when the when the front office steps out and they make that trade and they at you know, show the show the guys that are out there playing every day kick getting their butts kicked that hey, we're we're willing to go all in, Like, that's for me, That's what it's all about. 00:28:38 Speaker 4: All right, you threw left handed better right handed. You're you're complete weird though, And there's a few others, but not many. Ricky forgot about Ricky. He was pretty using the best, all right. 00:28:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, by far? What you play golf right or left handed? 00:28:52 Speaker 4: I play golf right handed, so you know, like klay bucklet you play golf right hand and then you put left hand out. 00:28:56 Speaker 7: I'm not that weird, but it plays weird. So it's funny. I do everything underhand right handed. So if you think, like if I, if I was to pitch of softball, I would have to pitch it right handed. 00:29:09 Speaker 2: I can't pitch it left handed. 00:29:11 Speaker 7: That it's really awkward if I but if I throw darts or if I throw a baseball, I have to do overhand football obviously, But like it's weird. Everything underhand, right handed, everything overhand left handed. 00:29:24 Speaker 2: You are a weirdo, so weird. Yeah, it's unique. 00:29:27 Speaker 4: Best best golf course you ever played, Cyprus Point Carmel. 00:29:33 Speaker 2: It's really hard to be. 00:29:34 Speaker 7: I've never played Augusta and I've never played Pine Valley. 00:29:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never played it. 00:29:41 Speaker 7: I've been invited a bunch and I just it's just I can't for forever. That was that a call? Call me? Did he say, call me? Oh, craty, don't even don't even tempt me, buddy. 00:29:52 Speaker 4: Bring your jacket to take a shower in as soon as you come off the golf. Of course, you have to put the jack on. You have to take a shower, and I'll work oat. 00:29:58 Speaker 2: The whole deal. I'll shower and whatever they make me. 00:30:00 Speaker 1: Shockrat you got it, you're setting it up. 00:30:05 Speaker 5: Just just shoot me a text. I'll have my guys see if he can get you on. 00:30:10 Speaker 2: Done. Best player in New Mexico, Gregman, Brian Urlacker Baseball, Yeah, by far. I was holding down the title for a while and then he just went you know him, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we got. 00:30:28 Speaker 7: When he was younger, We got to know each other, get to know his dad, and then yeah, he's just a he's an incredible guy. 00:30:33 Speaker 2: I mean that, what a student of the game. He is amazing. 00:30:37 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:30:38 Speaker 1: Well, Cody, good luck out there, great to see you. Thanks for the time, man, And this was probably the best interview you've ever done with what you. 00:30:44 Speaker 2: Got out of it, by far. 00:30:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, best hand out, Thanks Cody 00:30:48 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, appreciate it.