TGI - Episode 306 “This Little Piggy”

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Speaker 1: Will Did you watch flor Islava?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I had to google what it was, and it looks like it would be a ridiculous amount of fun.

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Speaker 1: It's so much fun. Writer, are you in? Should we do pod?

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Speaker 4: Why not? Well, it looks so painful. It looks so painful, like I'm always like no, no, no, because they're always jumping onto hard plastic things or like pieces of furniture.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Goofy Sky School.

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Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, I'm not well. First of all, I just don't like being on camera doing any sort of like appearances of any sort, you know, even like a fun game like I will play Flor's Lava in my living room with you guys or someone's house if you want to. Okay, I want a game show.

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Speaker 5: And let's go get a different third and go on to Danielle.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you're going to.

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Speaker 5: Let Ryders stop us from having fun.

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Speaker 4: Damn it? Than you get Tony.

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Speaker 6: Fun with Daniels would be perfect. Bill would be great on Flora's Lava.

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Speaker 4: Lee Morris, Lee Norris would actually probably be great at it.

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Speaker 3: I think it would be. I think we could get Lee, we could get.

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Speaker 5: Would do it, would do it in a second.

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Speaker 1: Kathy Ireland would be great.

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Speaker 3: Kathy Ireland would do it. How would we go about getting on Flora's lava?

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Speaker 4: How will we do that?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea.

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Speaker 5: Do you even know is it filmed in l a like is it even?

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Speaker 1: I know nothing. I know zero, I know zero information.

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Speaker 5: Like an Australian show or something like that.

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Speaker 1: All I know is that Adler loves it and.

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Speaker 4: It's a great family show. It's so funny, like much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: When it first came out, I was like what is this? And then it ended up being the thing that we watched with Indy, with his great parents, my in laws, Like we just laugh so hard, so fun and then you're screaming at the screen. You're constantly like dope, yeah, don't do that.

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Speaker 3: I haven't watched yet. Are people getting like legitimately hurt or is.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't look like it?

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't look like it, but it looks painful.

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Speaker 6: There are times, I know what writers talking about. There are times where somebody's standing on something and everything's covered in the lava, so everything's slippery and you have to stand on something without any runway to get any sort of momentum going, and you just have to like jump from there to this next like platform, and the platforms do look like they are very hard, not squishy at all.

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Speaker 5: That Yeah, like I saw that.

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Speaker 3: The one I saw it's just somebody hitting like a rock and like trying to grab.

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Speaker 4: On irock terrified and and you know, you guys know me, are you kidding me? Like I throw myself physically into things. Remember how I used to always like get hurt or hurt people on our set if I had to do anything physical.

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Speaker 1: You've intended to be like a puppy with giant pause.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but I would say, or you know you're not that. I mean, let me am I.

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Speaker 4: Graceful and coordinated.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't know. I've never seen you like dance or something like that. Are you graceful?

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Speaker 4: You don't want to see dance? I could do I was, you know, I did gymnastics, and I like, I can do handstands, I can walk on my hands. Yeah I can't do any of that, but I can't. I just have no grace. I have no physical grace. And like, the idea of doing something physical in front of in front of a camera is probably not a good idea.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you could you could smelt something for us to get from one side to the other. You could like, we could I could be you could be the coach would do that. Yeah, we could just do that. We could get a third a Tony Quinn, Atrina McGee Elee Norris to join us as our three and writer is our coach who talks us through what.

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Speaker 1: We need to do.

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Speaker 6: I'm into that idea. I'll have a get on it a the we'll figure out how to get us on that show. Because nowadays, because you're a kid to figure out how.

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Speaker 1: To get hired.

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Speaker 6: Adler, this is how I'm gonna build up his little roth Ira. I've already hired him. He's he's going to reach out to networks and streamers and just try to get as appearances on it.

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Speaker 3: Curious if it's even shot in LA Like, I'm careful if it's even here or not. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, probably because it's up against another team, right, Yeah, there's like three teams per episode. Well but you're really competing with yourself, I know, I guess yeah you are. Do you do you even meet the other team though, or it's more like you do your own thing and then.

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Speaker 1: They watch you.

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Speaker 6: So whoever the team is that goes first, then at the end if they may, even if they don't, they go up high with the host and they watch the other team compete. Because it's three teams and only two of them get to go to the big volcano at the end, so you are rooting for someone to fail so that you can get there.

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Speaker 3: Get there, right, I suggest Boy meets World full House, we all go and do Flora's Lava. Those are the three teams. That's my suggestion. I say we do that.

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Speaker 1: That's really good. And each one can have a coach so that if there's somebody who like doesn't want.

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Speaker 3: To doesn't want to play, wants to be there shaking coach us and rider, can you jump on that thing?

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Speaker 6: And honestly, that would be such an important position, because I do think the way writer mentioned where you're like yelling at the TV, you can from afar you can see very clearly what the paths are to the exit.

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Speaker 1: Once you're in it.

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Speaker 6: I think you're I think you're a little like I don't see it anymore. And so you need a writer on the deck telling you.

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Speaker 1: What to do.

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Speaker 5: I'm down for that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The eyes you need like the eyes of the you know, somebody high looking out seeing the whole picture.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that right.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fisher, I'm Rid Strong, and I'm Wilfrede. Welcome to Season three, episode six, This Little Piggy. It originally aired October twenty seventh, nineteen ninety five. The synopsis is that he finds himself in the middle of a fight between Sean and Tapanga after Sean takes it upon himself to adopt a pig. Also, Eric goes to the opera with Feoenie. It was directed by Jeff McCracken. It was written by Mark Blutman and Howard Buskang, and guest starring Richard Karn as Victor. He was known best for playing al Borland in Home Improvement. Overall impressions of this episode memories right off the bat.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about, what are our thoughts?

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Speaker 4: I have a lot? Actually, Okay. I was very excited for this episode because I remember having positive memories of the pig and how the pig was and working at the Pig. I remembered Richard Karn, but did not remember that it was the pig episode with the same So yeah, no recollection of the Feenie. Eric storyline, so that was interesting, but obviously it relates to your real life experience where you went to the ballet, which help thinking about that. I am so bad in this episode and I do not like this episode because of the performances, Like I just thought just I thought everybody was off, but especially me, and I just didn't like it. And then I thought it was just a weird storyline. I was like, wait, what is this so we can get into it. But I think something was going on with me, Like I think I was either sick or yeah, really bad mood and which I hope I get out of and don't stay in for the rest. But I feel like I am so low energy in this episode and it's painful to watch. I was like, dude, right or wake up. I think a big part of that was because we didn't shoot in front of a live audience.

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Speaker 5: I'm assuming because the pig the pig.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And with the lack of an audience, it feels so low energy, especially low vocal energy from me, that it really varies and and and what otherwise wouldn't be I think a kind of a fun episode feels really low energy on my part. But in general, I.

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Speaker 6: Can agree with you that there's a little there's some moments that feel a little low energy, and I mean specifically when Richard karn comes in. I was really surprize Richard Karnan didn't get the Room McClanahan treatment of the big but it's because there was, you know, no audience, and I my.

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Speaker 1: Performance is truly unwatchable.

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Speaker 6: But also I cannot believe this is I cannot believe this is an episode. They did this early on with Tapanga and I have a lot of a lot of thoughts there.

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Speaker 4: I liked it, did you I?

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Speaker 7: Did you?

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Speaker 1: Were? This is good?

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Speaker 3: Such a fun I thought this to me and again I completely agree with you, Danielle.

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Speaker 5: It seemed very early to do this.

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Speaker 3: In in the Corey, they're now just forcing the Corey to pang a relationship like you're supposed to know.

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Speaker 5: They've been together forever and this is the second time we.

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Speaker 4: Stay stay together.

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Speaker 3: I know it's weird, but but to me it felt like a Boy Meets World episode. There was it's between there's a problem where Corey stuck between his girlfriend and his best friend.

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Speaker 5: Eric and Feenie are together.

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Speaker 3: The parents come in give good words of wisdom, like it felt like a Boy.

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Speaker 5: Meets World episode.

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Speaker 4: To me, I can see that, So I liked it.

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Speaker 5: I did. I definitely like.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you were. I don't think we were as low energy as you think you are. I thought you looked like you were going to laugh a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw a couple of times where you were gonna laugh and.

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Speaker 4: Fun. To me, I looked miserable. And I specifically, I actually remember the Richard carn scene being very unhappy Richard Carnan being uphappy or you being happy? Really, Ben, Yeah, I remember being miserable shooting that scene. And I can't even tell you exactly why. I think we thought it was a bad scene or I thought it was a bad scene. I speak for myself, if I remember correctly, I remember thinking this is dumb, like I don't like this, and and and maybe I felt that way about the episode in general, though I remember I have positive memories of the pigs. I don't know, I don't know what was going.

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Speaker 6: On, but I remember the things I remember about the pigs. I remember, and we've talked about this before where I said, I remember we did an episode with a bunch of pigs, and and then what I realized watching it was we used a bunch of pigs for this episode. They had like five or six pigs with them, and we all got to meet all of the pigs at once in the school hallway, they like let out all the school pigs, and so in my mind we were filming something with a bunch of small pigs. But what I remembered was no, we just got to meet all these little pigs and they were so squeally and so cute, and we love them. But I also do remember they made work very difficult. Of course, animal kids very very difficult. And there's a scene, that scene in the hallway writer, where you're holding the pig like a dog, like the way you would a small dog. They are nothing like small dogs. They feel like bricks. Their arms are completely straight. They are so uncomfortable with being held there, Like what a cute animal.

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Speaker 4: The hand, That's what And maybe that's part of the thing behind my performers. I am stressed dealing with the technical demand.

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Speaker 3: Of an I bet that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I'm super just like not into it because I'm just not hating jokes. I'm just like blazing through, like line deliveries and it just feels like, yes, but your performance too, Danielle. You know, like I think you're an amazing actor. You were not except so there's something robotic about your performance, like you're just kind of dead like and I feel like you and I both are suffering from a complete lack of choices and a lack of energy and it's just like and maybe it's just overwhelming.

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Speaker 6: I do think that was a large part of it, because I can very easily remember the feeling when there were external factors that had nothing to do with us. Yes, but we had to make our day. It always came down to it being about us. There was no room, Like you this the stress we would be under to make the day, to get the scene, to get it done, and it always it always felt like it was on us. It was our fault. It wasn't working, even though it would.

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Speaker 4: Be part of being a kid, and it's part of being an actor because you know, it's a major part of being an actor because it's your face, it's your body, it's you're the person that has to get through the scene in front of the camera, right like it. So there's but it's a very healthy thing for an actor, and I think for adult actors they realized someone that it's okay to be slightly difficult sometimes, that it's okay to be like I'm having a bad day, or can we get another take just for me? Or can you do that? But when you're a kid actor, you feel like any pushback is you being a bad person or a bad actor. And it's one of those things that like I just you know, I had a really hard time learn like I would avoid conflict, and avoiding conflict meant suffering as a as an actor to get through a scene and taking on that pressure to you know, and that's really not healthy.

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Speaker 3: What it depended all on the on the director for the day, because we had McCracken who was so open and like we could always try new things and walk through the scene and this isn't working, and he would always sit with us and talk about it.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, like, but you.

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Speaker 4: Know how it was on when we were actually rolling though the director took a second position.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a director when.

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Speaker 4: We were rolling. It was an entire crew and people yelling, and the sense that like it was on us to get through the thing. Scene hit, the jokes hit the marks hit the lines, and like in retrospect, a very healthy actor approach is like, hey, can you stop yelling? Can we have a moment? Can I think? You know, this is a tough situation for me. I need a moment, or I need some time, or I need another take or whatever it is. And I, as a grown up actor, would find myself suffering like a complete masochist for a scene. And I remember when I was like twenty four, I worked with John Demagio, the great John Demager is a voice over actor that you've worked with, one of my oldest friends. We become friends when I was a teenager back there. But I remember in my twenties working with him and him just being like, Rider, you were a grown ass man. You can ask for a grown ass man time to get your job done as an actor. And I remember being like like a light bulb, Like I'm in my twenties and I thought that I had to suffer or had to take on this pressure and like, yeah, when you're a kid, you just don't know that. And a lot of actors never learned that lesson a lot of actors just put themselves, you know.

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Speaker 3: It also shows such the difference between being fourteen and being eighteen on a set. Yeah, because I would there was you know, especially when I started really working with Bill, it was like, we would take our time, we would do that, we would take those moments, we.

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Speaker 4: Would do that, no one's yelling hell no.

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Speaker 3: So it was it was more more of that than than anything else. But yeah, again I didn't the performances didn't. I guess in my head what it was when I was watching this episode is it's like, and it must be just because we've all been there with different animals and different things like that. I knew you were all concentrating on the fact that there's a pig on the set. I mean that's like, that's what's in your mind. Is you've got the pig or you've got the stunt.

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Speaker 5: Are you wearing this? You're so you're not consciuts as much as your performance. But it didn't.

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Speaker 3: I liked and we'll get into it obviously, but I liked kind of your whole yourself, it's your you're saving yourself, and like, you know, I like that. I thought that was a cute story.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, line, I.

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Speaker 3: Thought Tony was great in this episode, and and yeah, I just felt like a felt like a boy.

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Speaker 4: Sony showing off the guns in this episode. Dude, several different tank tops in this in this.

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Speaker 6: Episode, well, let's jump into our recap. We are in the school hallway. Sean asks Cory or Dewey from the hitching post, if you're nasty, that's what a shirt says, he remembers the if he so, Sean asks Cory if he remembers the goldfish he used to have, and Corey responds to the turtle and Sean says yes, and then he finally replaced him.

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Speaker 4: Then I'm sorry, is that Sean Hunter best outfit? This is like weird color combination, but it actually looks good. It's still kind of baggy, but it actually is a little bit fitted better than others. So this is like if I could pick one outfit to be representative of, Like.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say your funk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if we're gonna go early Sean, right yeah, because this is the define. No, I think the funkle pop has to have the leather jacket, right yea, yeah, that's true, but but pre leather jacket, Sean. This is this is it? This is it?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 5: Can I ask a question about this first joke?

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Speaker 3: Is the joke that Sean doesn't get the difference between a turtle and a goldfish, or that he named his goldfish turtle.

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Speaker 1: I think he didn't.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I thought he just didn't understand the difference. He'd like he didn't understand.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I honestly didn't get I was like, does he not understand that the goldfish?

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Speaker 6: And it's not yeah, it was a turtle, but he remembers it as yeah. But then later we make a joke. Corey makes a joke about not wanting to flush that down the toilet. So then was it a goldfish?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, It's very It was odd to me.

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Speaker 6: So then Sean yells here boy, and an adorable squeak squeaky pig comes running down the hallway. Corey says, I'd hate to flush him down the toilet, probably probably recalling the fate of said turtle. And then Sewan explains he was at the trailer park, digging around where their house used to be, and he found the pig gnawing on Uncle Sal's old peg leg. Sal was there, he just didn't notice the pig.

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Speaker 5: And you were about to laugh when you were saying that you did.

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Speaker 1: Yep, there was. That was the moment. There was the first time you went to laugh.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see it was for me. I was like burying jokes like I felt like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You were feeding the pig. You had one hundred percent at the time.

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Speaker 6: You had to keep thinking about what you were saying and trying to feed the pig and keep the pig happy.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is the pig would they squeal?

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Speaker 6: They start going any just for if they don't have food for one second, they start doing that, so the amount of like and then the take's ruined. They can't be squealing over dialogue. So it's a very stressful situation to be working with an adorable pig. Corey says he realizes he's been spending too much time with the panga and that Sean has has responded by replacing him with a pig. Sean says, no, the piglet has nothing to do with him. The school bell rings and he picks up little Corey to take to class. When Corey thinks this proves his point, Sean says, it was the first name that came to his mind, and yeah, this is where you're holding him like a little dog. And I could immediately remember what it felt like to hold them, and they are just saying that they're trying to push away from you, and they.

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Speaker 1: Are solid like little yea, like bricks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're squirming everywhere, well everywhere, and if you touch them the wrong way, they just start screaming.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you guys know.

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Speaker 4: That I've had a pig in my yard for the last Your pig.

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Speaker 3: Your pig name is Bacon in Spanish, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: He's gone now? But yeah, no where what do you mean? Well, so we had a school we ate him. No, we had a school. We had a school in our yard during the pandemic. We started a pod school with teacher and uh, different families, and then we decided, even though Indy went back to school, we decided to allow the teacher to keep a preschool going in our yard. So we have We've had like six families and kids coming. And the teacher got a pot belly pig, which you think when they're they're as small as little Corey, they're going to stay that size. No, this toastino grew and still so cute but like tusks and so really huge. Yeah, so they just the school just moved out of our yard like two months ago, but it's always we would have a pig in our yard, like, oh my god. The best was like one time I had a friend over who was we were riding something together, and he's like sitting here, you know, looking out my off my office window, being like, so I think on this next page we should there's a Oh my, oh that's a pig. It was like, why is there some weird animal in our backyard. He was ready to like freak out and like call animal control or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Right, and then he was like, Oh, it's just the pig you guys have.

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Speaker 4: It's just a pig, but it's you know, they're so cute. They're so cute when Tocino is little as the cutest thing. But you don't pick them up. No, they're not. They're little. They don't like to be picked up.

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Speaker 1: You pet them animals, Yeah, not to sound like to Panga.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: To Pega walks over to the pet pig and asks his name, and when Sean tells her it's little Corey, she looks at both Corey and.

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Speaker 1: The pig and says she can see it.

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Speaker 6: To Pega says they need to help find him a proper home, or he can run around. Sean gets defensive and says, little Corey, I'm gonna call him l C from now on, can run around with him, but she disagrees to Penga questions Sean trying to raise a pig, so Corey interjects by saying, anyway you slice it, it's only a pig. The audience laughter here is a real roar and it comes in like waves. They think that line is very funny.

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Speaker 4: And then computer button pushing because we didn't have an audience.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have an audience.

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Speaker 3: It's it's funny. They would then show it to the audience if they, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, the following week. They probably played it at the beginning and captured laughter.

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Speaker 3: That is what they used to do that all the time.

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Speaker 4: They would not show them a previous episode.

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Speaker 1: Would No, we would watch it.

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Speaker 6: No, No, they would show the entire episode and we can see it in our dressing rooms, and they would record the laughter.

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Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, yeah, watch an entire episode.

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Speaker 6: We would watch because we would we wouldn't have seen them, so we would watch like while we were in here and makeup or going in and out of our dressing rooms.

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Speaker 1: We would be able to see them on the feed.

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Speaker 3: Started season one, before the show was aired, they would show, the audience would come in, they would show episode before then they would if they didn't have enough laughter, they would show the entire episode and they'd capture.

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Speaker 4: Did you guys notice the gene invasion, the denim invasion? Jeans which I never I don't maybe this look. I don't normally wear jeans as sean, and so you were like slacks, the gallow pants, the pants. Yeah, up until now, I have not worn jeans as much, I don't think because I noticed it, and I think that's part of the reason why I like this out there. It was like I'm wearing what I would wear, and then Ben's wearing Jeesus and that you were, man.

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Speaker 5: You are You're yes, decked out in jean Uh.

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Speaker 6: Did you guys also notice that Ben seemed to be doing a different thing in this open I feel like Ben was like Ben was a cool guy, like being a real cool guy.

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Speaker 4: It was. It was.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It also, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that for the last few it seems like a last bunch of episodes. The driving factor behind the show is Sean, yes, and so it just seems like it's switching to it has entirely Sean is the star of the show. He's driving everything, We're seeing more of his home life, we're seeing what's going on, and it kind of changed changes.

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Speaker 6: But I also wonder how much of it, too, is a Corey has a girlfriend now, and so there's like he's he feels cooler.

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Speaker 5: That amazing.

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Speaker 4: He's getting older, like Ben's getting older and he's becoming like a teenager. And I think that when you're a teenager, you kind of want to be cool. Cool, and a little bit fits Corey too, you know, like that Corey's version of like being awkward would become attempts to be kind of laid back and like cool. It makes perfect sense, But you're right, it's it's not the same Corey. Like it's a.

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Speaker 1: Slightly different and different yeah, very yeah, Yeah, it feels different.

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Speaker 4: I don't love it.

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Speaker 1: I don't love it either.

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Speaker 4: I don't love and where Ben ended up right, like ends up playing Cory as an old man. And I think that that's a much more interesting version of Corey, Like this version of like cool guy laid back.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, that's you. That should be you, and he should be driving the episode, but they switched it, and it's weird.

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Speaker 7: A little bit.

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Speaker 6: Well, he says, anyway you slice it, it's still a pig. Corey and to pegu and Sean look at him disgustingly. He says, what and you? You and Ben both look like you're close to breaking here, and the pig is going absolutely nuts in your arms.

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Speaker 1: And then we're still in the school hallway.

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Speaker 6: Sean says, school is more fun now that he has a pig, but the fun is over as Phoene walks down the hall.

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Speaker 1: The pig has a cute little outfit on and he runs into a piggy door that someone installed. Very quickly, he puts it, put in the pig.

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Speaker 5: Think when did that happen?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It just all of a sudden, there's a pig. There's a pig door in there.

00:23:50
Speaker 6: Carry asks if Sean taught him that, but Sean says no, he just somehow knows. And then Corey and Sean approached Feoenie and Corey's guilty conscience blurts out, no farm animals here, and Phoenie says the day is young and walks off, and the line reading he gives is just perfect builds in a line yep. Eric runs after Phoenie and shows him he's been trying to find the right school for him. He went from girls, girls, girls to college college College. You have just one thing you're allowed to talk about at the time, and now it's college, college College. He opens a boudoir magazine, which is definitely a reference to Playboy, and it's the Girls of the Ivy League special issue. Phoene tries to walk off, but Eric asks if he's ever heard of a college called Yale.

00:24:38
Speaker 3: Apparently, according to Blutman, it was not written that way in the script, and in the first run through, I said.

00:24:46
Speaker 1: Yale, amazing.

00:24:48
Speaker 4: I do not remember that.

00:24:51
Speaker 1: It sounds like a joke.

00:24:52
Speaker 4: You do mispronunciation joke all the time, funny, always funny. Yes, it's possible. I'm full disclosure. I do not remember that at all. So he says, totally makes sense. I completely believe it.

00:25:06
Speaker 1: I do too.

00:25:07
Speaker 6: Phoeney looks at him and says, you mean Yale. Phoenie tails him, tells him Yale is one of the best schools in the country, but it's no party school. Eric says, according to the girl in this magazine, floating on a raft while reading a physics book, Yale Rocks, phoene tells him, Yeah, if Phoeney tells him, he should be applying to places more accessible, maybe a state school or a preschool.

00:25:27
Speaker 4: Or a preschool.

00:25:29
Speaker 3: I love Bill. I love working with Bill so much. He and I just clicked into this thing and it was the greatest. I don't remember what episode he said it to me, but after we they paired us up and we could tell it was going to be the two of us.

00:25:41
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:25:41
Speaker 3: He put his arm around me and he said, well, it looks like you're my new ed Bagley.

00:25:45
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:25:46
Speaker 3: And it was just so cool. It was it.

00:25:49
Speaker 1: Any scene with the two of you is enjoyable. Eric says he has you.

00:25:53
Speaker 5: Still love him, I know, but work with him so much.

00:25:56
Speaker 4: I know, don't don't working with no? Do it over?

00:25:59
Speaker 1: Start over?

00:26:00
Speaker 5: I I love him so much. I love working with him so much.

00:26:04
Speaker 4: Well, can you can you wink? Let's see you wink?

00:26:07
Speaker 5: Which o Your wink.

00:26:09
Speaker 4: Looked a little? I was like, I can't wink like I I like my other eyes so much.

00:26:17
Speaker 3: I can also do to do the big one like that you do the big we know Danielle has Like Danielle, I've got crazy control. I was gonna say amazing eye control or AEC is.

00:26:29
Speaker 5: What they call it.

00:26:30
Speaker 1: Correct, that's exactly right.

00:26:32
Speaker 4: I know we we've already moved on from from my part of the scene, but this I wanted to bring it up because it's not just in the scene, but throughout last episode and this episode. I am in he acne makeup cover.

00:26:44
Speaker 3: Your skin doesn't have this episode too, you you can.

00:26:47
Speaker 6: It's also the wrong color. It looks very orange.

00:26:51
Speaker 4: My skin so caked in makeup. So this is like, you know, what.

00:26:54
Speaker 6: It probably is is your skin is probably so dry that what we're also probably seeing his flakiness, Like you're probably so dry.

00:27:02
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it's a cycle. You get bad skin, and the cake it with makeup, which doesn't help your skin, and then you cake it again. I mean it's yeah, no, my skin was bad too. I was in a bad breakout on the side as well. You could tell when you watch it again. But yeah, it's it's terrible.

00:27:29
Speaker 6: Eric says he has a question that needs a yes or no answer. How many people get into Yale every year? Phoene simply says no, no. Phoene explains, very good.

00:27:38
Speaker 4: If you have a dialogue in this little is some of our best I really think this is clever and funny.

00:27:44
Speaker 1: Funny, whip fast jokes.

00:27:47
Speaker 4: It just works, deed.

00:27:49
Speaker 6: Phoene explains it would take more than Eric's grades to get into Yale, and Eric says he knows what he means, and he's winking right back at him, and Phoene says, please.

00:27:56
Speaker 5: Don't, please don't.

00:27:58
Speaker 6: Then we are in Turner's apartment. Little Corey is licking mister Turner's face, giving him kisses as he takes a nap on the couch, and Turner says, oh, Catherine, a little cat Tompkins. Of course, little cat Tompkins also her.

00:28:17
Speaker 5: It's a sitcom.

00:28:18
Speaker 3: I get it, but it's so unbelievable how this pig is going on his face and he's sound asleep, like oh cat, o cat.

00:28:25
Speaker 7: It's the chos on his chest and all, oh, you know, like on the couch, and the pig approaches and then just tried and.

00:28:36
Speaker 4: Tried, like just put food on his face and get it.

00:28:39
Speaker 6: And you can see at the very start he is kissing him, but then immediately the pig just starts squealing because there is really no more food there, and the pig's now pissed and just has to squeal working it, I know. And then he realizes it's a pig looking his face and we get tons of Tony spitting the disgusting pig slobber off his face.

00:28:57
Speaker 5: Well, Tony is a ham.

00:28:59
Speaker 6: Oh but I'm fine, Turner yells at Sean. They had an agreement. The pig can't kiss him anymore. Sean can keep the pig, but Turner doesn't want to hear from him or raise him. And then Shawn whispers pig hater, which I think I thought's very cute, and he starts feeding the pig with a bottle and we get a big aw from the audience. And again, pig acting equals eating. That's how you get a pig.

00:29:26
Speaker 4: You just keep it just like a right exactly.

00:29:33
Speaker 5: Here's here's some twizzers. Here's red vines. Go Go Act, Go get out, Get out there, meat pals. Here's meat puls Go Act.

00:29:39
Speaker 1: Cory arrives and he has presents.

00:29:41
Speaker 6: For a little Corey a squirrel bank because he didn't think shoving metal into a pig's back would be appealing to him. Sean says he'll be able to meet Corey Intopanga later at Chubby's, and Corey asks if it's a good idea to leave little Corey alone. Sean says, yeah, it's all in this book he's got called What to Expect when You're Raising a Pig. Corey tells Sean that Tapega is still upset about the pig, and Sean puts little Corey down so they can talk.

00:30:02
Speaker 1: And again, I think these are all very cute, little cute little moments.

00:30:06
Speaker 4: Like I think the short thing Baron, I'm just like, I don't know, maybe it's a Sean like why like there's something it's just an an energy level thing.

00:30:17
Speaker 6: I just feel like I do think you're right that it has to do with the audience, because I think when when you would normally say we had an audience there, and Corey says, like, you know, by the way, tapeng Us still upset about the pig, you would then have there would have been more time with you picking down the putting the pig down.

00:30:31
Speaker 1: And saying, you know, excuse us, little Corey so we can talk.

00:30:34
Speaker 6: You would have then had a laugh there, which would have forced you to hold before you moved to Corey, and that would have Yeah, and the fact that there was no audience and we were constantly so worried about what was going to happen, Like when you put that pig down, the pig now has to run to the pigs to the trainer and.

00:30:52
Speaker 3: There wait and you got to sit there and wait.

00:30:53
Speaker 6: So it's also possible it's an editing thing because I wonder if the pig the pig trainer had to say like come here, come here, come here, Mac, come here, and in editing they had to cut that out.

00:31:03
Speaker 5: I was just gonna ask.

00:31:05
Speaker 4: Clicker clicker with I think so, I think so yeah for cats, but I couldn't remember if with with a pig, if it.

00:31:11
Speaker 5: Was, I think so yeah. I also wonder.

00:31:13
Speaker 3: I also wonder, and I know I might be deep diving psychology here, but you said at the beginning, maybe you're going through something in your personal life, and maybe you remember that without remembering it, and it's like it's hitting you again.

00:31:25
Speaker 4: Remember there was there is the episode where I got dumped and had a break down backstage and my dad was there and said, we can let's quit the show right now. If you're unhappy, and it was this season, so this could have been Okay, Marine broke up with the Jackney covered rider getting dumped by Marine. Not enough roses, yeah, white roses.

00:31:52
Speaker 5: So maybe that was it. I mean, maybe that's it, and maybe you like is remembering that.

00:31:57
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I hope it was something very specific to this week because if if the show continues this way, and I'm gonna have to keep watching, sad writer like not commit to line because like they're just like picking up the book right here, right, Like that's a pretty funny line. It's amazing, but like what to expect, like vocal energy would make that joke right, Like you're saying, it's just straight here in my book, my books, and then you hit what the book title is and instead I'm like, it's right here in the book. I just feel like I'm so.

00:32:26
Speaker 7: Well.

00:32:27
Speaker 6: Sean says it's none of Tapanga's business, and Corey says he told her that, but also that Sean will find a home for the pig soon, and Sean doesn't know why Corey would have said that. Corey wants to know who keeps a pig in an apartment anyway, Sean thinks Corey was fine with it before he talked to his girlfriend. But Corey just doesn't want to take sides.

00:32:43
Speaker 4: And now at this point, are you guys starting to go like, what is Topanga's problem with your pig? Yeah, because like this is where I started going like, wait a minute, wait, Pega had a problem with the pig. I was trying to remember, like exactly what she said, and I couldn't quite remember what she said in the homeway, it's it's an animal rights thing, like.

00:33:02
Speaker 6: An animal rights running around space. I have to have more space than being in an apartment. I think, which, by the way, will be true when the pig does weigh five pounds, right, and I.

00:33:13
Speaker 4: Guess it was. I wish it was linked a little bit more to like season one to Panga Animals, right, like like does she say she's a vegetarian?

00:33:21
Speaker 1: Nope, No, it's not a vegetarian.

00:33:24
Speaker 4: Too, like, because if she's not a vegetarian, what are you talking about.

00:33:28
Speaker 1: Is a vegetarian matter? I don't think you're planning on razors.

00:33:32
Speaker 5: I'm not going to eat it.

00:33:33
Speaker 1: I'm not going to eat him.

00:33:34
Speaker 6: It's not about It's not about it's more it is about farm animals deserve to live on a farm the same way like whales shouldn't be at sea world, you know that idea that like they don't A whale shouldn't be in a giant pool.

00:33:46
Speaker 1: The whale should be in the ocean.

00:33:48
Speaker 6: This is to Pega's version of a farm animal doesn't live in the city. But the problem is, I've seen Babe in the City and it works out fine.

00:33:56
Speaker 4: Well, but it's also to me, is a vegetarian thing. Is is a way to ground her animal rights activism in some sort of like personal belief system that eyes it to like like Corey knows that Topanga's a vegetarian. What That's a great joke.

00:34:14
Speaker 1: That's a great joke.

00:34:15
Speaker 5: That day all just flew by it.

00:34:16
Speaker 3: That was a great joke. I've seen Babe in the City. It turns south fine.

00:34:22
Speaker 4: It's a great movie. You seen that Lay in the City So good was the director of and it's we're.

00:34:30
Speaker 1: Laughing so hard and that joke and writer just right by it, and I am tears streaming.

00:34:38
Speaker 4: It was so earnest.

00:34:40
Speaker 3: It was like I saw a documentary about this and it turned out fine.

00:34:43
Speaker 5: I thought Babe in the City, well, I.

00:34:45
Speaker 4: Thought that we actually made a reference to something. We had a line in here and I.

00:34:49
Speaker 6: Do say that, I say it, I say it later, I say, well, that's.

00:34:52
Speaker 1: What happens when you have a pig in the city.

00:34:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like, has the movie come out yet when we did the Yeah.

00:34:57
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.

00:34:58
Speaker 6: Anyway, sorry, writer, you were in the middle of something very important.

00:35:02
Speaker 4: Children. I feel like top like Corey's allegiance to to Pango, would be more conflicted if he knew that she was a vegetarian who like always advocated for animal rights, Like if this was like an established part of her, which it very easily could have been, because that was Tapega's character in season one, right, that she has these strong feelings, that they're ethically based, that their personal belief systems, and that Corey, by allowing Sean to have this little hyjints with a pig and not take it seriously, is betraying something essential to his love or his understanding of Topang as opposed to what it is, which is just Tapanga has a different opinion, Like Topanga just has a different thing. That's that's also how raising their animal but.

00:35:45
Speaker 3: Stay out of it, right, But that's the whole point is that it's it's supposed to be about Corey for the first time being stuck between Sean and Topanga, and he doesn't know, he doesn't care about what Tapanga is saying, but he's got a hass to side with his girlf You have decide with your girlfriend.

00:36:01
Speaker 6: I think the bigger issue is that, to writer's point, that is what it is about for Tapanga, but they don't set that up for her at all.

00:36:09
Speaker 1: They don't give her.

00:36:10
Speaker 6: They don't say here's my POV and why this is my POV.

00:36:14
Speaker 1: They just say my POV is.

00:36:16
Speaker 6: That it's my business what you do with your business, which makes her unlikable. Like I I don't disagree with that. I completely did not like her through this episode. And yet when you say all of those things like I fight for animal rights and we coexist and we all you know, we all need to have you need to treat this animal with the respect that it deserves, and taking an animal who's raised on a farm their natural instincts and bah blah blah bah they are need space and.

00:36:42
Speaker 4: All your good argument argument.

00:36:44
Speaker 5: She's not supposed to have a good argument.

00:36:45
Speaker 3: That's why at the end she's supposed to look at Turner and say, I've made a mistake.

00:36:49
Speaker 6: Right, she can still have a good She can have a good argument and still realize this isn't my place.

00:36:59
Speaker 1: Because she can, she could have still said the exact same thing.

00:37:02
Speaker 6: Well, I've made a mistake, which is even though I still think I'm right, a pig does not live in the city.

00:37:09
Speaker 1: I overstepped my bounds. Maybe I felt like.

00:37:12
Speaker 4: I had an authority over Shawn's life and I expected Corey to take my side, and like that is that is a great they tried to do. Of course they didn't give her a good enough argument. And you shouldn't be judging you're just like you. And then Corey, Corey caving to Tapanga isn't based in anything good. It's just you're watching Corey make a dumb messa. It be you know, not that's that awful boyfriend things you're wanted until the end where then he's like, no, I can't believe you did that.

00:37:44
Speaker 3: I'm siding with my best friend. Like I only sided with you because you're my girlfriend. I mean, even Alan says he's got his girlfriend. He has to you don't have a choice, But that's what you do when you're fourteen and you side with your girlfriend, you're not self aware enough to be like, what if I think about that? It's like, oh my girlfriend said this, and I've been with two months and it's a brand new relationship and I love her.

00:38:01
Speaker 5: Of course I'm with you, babe. I mean, that's what you do when you're fourteen.

00:38:05
Speaker 3: So it's not till later where he really had a chance to think about it where he's like, wait a second, Wow, you really overstepped here. Now you called somebody. What the hell are you thinking now? Now I'm with my best friend. It's just your knee jerk reaction when you're a kid. Is like kissing this girl, like to kiss her, want to keep kissing her. Of Course I'm with you. It's I think that's as far as he thought it through, and I think that's what they were trying to do.

00:38:24
Speaker 5: But you're right, the argument of it did come.

00:38:27
Speaker 3: Off like you wanted a lot of times to be looking at the screen and being like, what business is this of yours?

00:38:32
Speaker 4: Yes?

00:38:33
Speaker 3: You know you?

00:38:33
Speaker 1: Hear we barely know you, girl.

00:38:36
Speaker 6: You haven't even been in a bunch of episodes, and like, now, all of a sudden, it just felt very I was very uncomfortable with it.

00:38:44
Speaker 3: I just trying to force this relationship on us still, and now with this episode, they're also trying to force that Topanga and Sean have been friends for your Oh well.

00:38:54
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that.

00:38:55
Speaker 5: Don't don't worry.

00:38:55
Speaker 4: Don't worry.

00:38:56
Speaker 5: That's what I mean.

00:38:56
Speaker 3: It's they're trying to just wedge this in now, like, no, she's always been there, and it's no, she hasn't.

00:39:01
Speaker 5: We've gone through this, she has.

00:39:02
Speaker 4: I think you can have the exact same dynamic that you're describing without making Tapanga such a shrew you know, yes, I feel like she becomes a caricature of the controlling girlfriend as opposed to a girlfriend with her own opinion that Corey succumbs to because he's a little boy who does how to stand up for himself, Like that is a great point, And instead it's like there's just no consideration for Tapanga as a character. There's no development, there's no so it's just make her a cardboard cutout of the shrewish girlfriend that.

00:39:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did it, completely did badly. Now I don't disagree with that.

00:39:35
Speaker 6: So Sean says, only Topanga has a problem with the pig, and just then Turner walks out in a tank top, saying he has a problem with the pig, and I could only think of the Bruh meets World Guys, siege and tc. That makes sense here. Also, the pig left mister Turner a little gift on his pillow. Sean asks if there was a card, and we are then in the Matthew slash Fieni backyard. Eric comes outside to find Phoene gardening, something Phoenie apparently does at all hours whenever he is home.

00:40:05
Speaker 1: Says, my garden, everyone loves it.

00:40:07
Speaker 6: Eric says he thought about what Phoene said about having friends at Yale.

00:40:10
Speaker 1: Then he purposefully drops a paper on the floor. He refers to himself in third person, hoping the.

00:40:15
Speaker 5: Best take for the paper drop or it falls on my own feet.

00:40:18
Speaker 4: We didn't have a better take, or it actually coudn't.

00:40:19
Speaker 5: See what it was.

00:40:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a potentially really dumb question. Was this fence always there? Yes?

00:40:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry the gate The gate was the gate not always? No, it comes and goes, It comes and goes.

00:40:33
Speaker 6: In the last the last episode also opens the fence.

00:40:36
Speaker 3: It's weird when it opened it in the last episode because I watched it open and.

00:40:39
Speaker 6: I was like, wait a minute, No, there used to one hours all across it open.

00:40:44
Speaker 4: It didn't.

00:40:44
Speaker 5: You're okay.

00:40:46
Speaker 1: I was like, there's never been a Gate the new Gate alert.

00:40:50
Speaker 4: That is weird.

00:40:50
Speaker 1: I wondering if it's a new Gate alert. I should have said it.

00:40:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right because because.

00:40:56
Speaker 3: Last episode had opened and the way they shot it with it open from the angle they had it made the fence look like it banked.

00:41:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really weird.

00:41:05
Speaker 5: And like show it was like, oh that's jarring.

00:41:07
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, they put it the red carpet that, yes, exactly a ledge that you saw yep, exactly.

00:41:12
Speaker 6: So Eric refers to himself in third person, hoping Feenie will pick it up. Phoene tells him that Eric dropped it and he should pick it up, so Eric does. It's an envelope with two box seats to the opera. Phoene asks if it's a bribe. Eric says, it's just him doing something nice for feenne hoping one day Phoenie will do something nice to him.

00:41:29
Speaker 1: And then he coughs Yale twice.

00:41:31
Speaker 6: Yale pill so good, Phoene says he will do something for him. Places like Yale embrace young people with culture, so he will pick him up at seven thirty.

00:41:40
Speaker 1: Looks like he found an opera date. And Eric says, Phoene say what.

00:41:46
Speaker 4: I don't know?

00:41:47
Speaker 3: I think right?

00:41:49
Speaker 1: I say what?

00:41:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like says what Asphinter says what, Yes, it's that's that's what they're doing right. Yes, it doesn't make any sense. No, because you say, Phoene says what I think it's.

00:41:59
Speaker 3: Supposed to be, just to like like a like a what you're talking about?

00:42:03
Speaker 5: Willis right?

00:42:04
Speaker 3: Totally yeah, really weird ones catchphrase.

00:42:09
Speaker 1: No, but here's the thing I wrote down. It's not a Phoene call, but it has phoene call energy in it.

00:42:16
Speaker 5: It does we're getting there finding something.

00:42:20
Speaker 4: Correct, the phoe Phoenie adjacent.

00:42:25
Speaker 1: Yes, Phoene call adjacent or the zygote I love all of these. That's it's exactly what it is.

00:42:31
Speaker 4: It's the primordial soup out of which the Phoenie call will rise.

00:42:34
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, prim soup T shirt.

00:42:38
Speaker 6: Sean is talking to a bunch of girls at Chubbies who are watching the pig Eat of course on top of the pool table and this seems like something Chubby should put a stop to.

00:42:49
Speaker 4: Sandwiches.

00:42:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, this feels like, yeah, I mean the fault. Who am I to judge?

00:42:55
Speaker 6: To Panga Corey and to Panga enter into Pega says, I thought you said you talked to Sean about the pig, and Corey says, maybe it's another pig because they travel in groups. To Panga tells Sean she's not trying to be mean, but she just doesn't think it's fair for a pig to be living in an apartment. And here's another time where Topanga basically says the same thing she said in the hallway, where she says a pig needs room to run around.

00:43:16
Speaker 1: That if they had just given her.

00:43:20
Speaker 6: A couple of specifics, a couple of things about disagree whatever, you could have maybe seen that she has a bleeding heart for this pig and she truly is not trying to offend Sean.

00:43:33
Speaker 4: Is a sympathetic point of view at all? Bank ahead, No, because I'm just sitting here going what is this conflict? I know, like I just want her to go away, stop talking.

00:43:40
Speaker 1: It's awful that we should all get something else. We should say that.

00:43:44
Speaker 6: I could also see her like her realization coming to in the end is more about I said my opinion once and he he he heard it, and he's not going to do that. I now have to let it go. You cannot just keep shoving your opinion down someone's throat over and over again when they don't agree with you and expect them to just like, how is this not getting any better?

00:44:08
Speaker 3: So actually made it even a little worse because it starts with her coming in saying I thought you were going to talk to him about it, which means that she was saying to Corey, you have to do something about it and do something about that. So it actually makes her even worse because it's not even she's not just doing it herself, but now she's telling her his best friend, no, no, no, you got to go and do something and make make sure that we pull the pig from him too.

00:44:30
Speaker 5: And so, yeah, you really don't like her very much.

00:44:32
Speaker 6: Yeah, Sean says, according to his book, farm Animals make great pets, Farm Animals make great.

00:44:37
Speaker 4: Pets, and writer another book joke.

00:44:39
Speaker 6: Regardless of how you feel about your performance, these are some really good line readings. That's a great deal. That's an okay joke. And that was a great line reading. I agree, thanks, very funny read to Hanga questions what will happen when the pig is five hundred pounds sitting on the couch not moving, and Sean says he never stopped loving aunt Gloria, which love the aunt and uncle references.

00:44:58
Speaker 1: We get, but you'll just continue the great read from you.

00:45:01
Speaker 6: Topega says Corey feels the same way, and she asks Corey if that's right. Corey doesn't answer Topanga right away and then says they're both right. Seawan and Tapanga say they can't both be right, so Tapanga asks whose side Corey is on.

00:45:13
Speaker 4: And I it's like the conflict.

00:45:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, he thinks about it and then says he's on topanga side, and Sean encourages him to leave with her because he can't leave his girlfriend waiting.

00:45:25
Speaker 1: Tapanga has overstepped her boundaries. In my opinion, we barely even know who this person is, and now she's already super unlikable. It is weirds me out. Then we're in the Matthew's kitchen. Corey is on the phone trying to get a hold of Sean.

00:45:38
Speaker 6: He explains to his parents that Sean was with a pig last night, and then Alan stops him and says he raised better.

00:45:44
Speaker 1: He raised him better than for Corey to talk like that.

00:45:48
Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa is better than to talk like that.

00:45:51
Speaker 6: Corey explains it wasn't a girl, it was a real pig. He says, Sean loves the pig, but Tapega thinks he shouldn't keep the pig in an apartment. Corey says he agrees with Topanga, but Sean is right too. Amy and Allan say even though he agrees with both sides, he's still sided with Topanga, and Alan says it's because he's a guy. And Amy hits him on the head with a great little piece of business that she does and it's like we've talked about.

00:46:12
Speaker 1: That was a real smack and it looks good.

00:46:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:46:17
Speaker 6: Alan says he shouldn't have taken sides because being caught between your friend and your girlfriend is tough. It's not always easy in the real world. And then Eric comes downstairs singing I'm going to yeah, and Alan says it's a little easier in his world.

00:46:31
Speaker 5: Because he hates Eric, hate him. He's got one child.

00:46:35
Speaker 3: It's down to one kid now, Alan and Amy one.

00:46:38
Speaker 1: Kid, last Morgan or it's in his own world.

00:46:42
Speaker 3: They don't care about Eric. They're down to one kid.

00:46:44
Speaker 1: So then we're in the school cafeteria. Sean is eating lunch with little Corey because the pig has to eat. Corey sits down next to him and apologizes for siding with Tapanga, but he doesn't want a little thing like this to get in between their friendship. Corey says, it's only a pig. Sean says he's only a pig to Corey Henga.

00:47:00
Speaker 4: And this is where I realized that they the writers watched the home episode with the metaphor of the dog. Let's do an entire episode that plays out this idea with a with that's you know, I wonder the inspiration for this episode come for. I would love to talk to Blutman about it, because I imagine somebody had to have, like had some because obviously they were just like, let's get a pig on the show. That'd be cute and funny, and they were right, like it is cute and funny, but like, how do we make that work and fit it in with our characters? Like why, like where did this come from?

00:47:44
Speaker 6: I mean, I wonder why a pig versus any other I mean, I guess you know the conflict. They figured, Okay, we can have to Panga have an issue with this, because if it was a kiddie, to Panga wouldn't care about you having a cat or a dog in an apartment, That's.

00:47:54
Speaker 4: What it just also wouldn't be that cute, right, I mean, the fun of this episode is that there's a big yeah, that's ridiculous, and people it might have been.

00:48:01
Speaker 3: A full size cow, like full size thousands of pals.

00:48:08
Speaker 6: Sean says he's only a pig to Corey, to Panga and whoever abandoned him. He explains the trailer park manager told him his owners drove off and just left him.

00:48:15
Speaker 1: No home, no family, nothing.

00:48:17
Speaker 6: And I know we're kind of laughing about the metaphor that we had in the bedroom, but I do like this idea that that Sean relates to. There are there's no one in his life human who he can relate to quite like this who has been passed from home to home, who's been abandoned. And he keeps looking for people to be like, are you like me? Who's like me? And he feels this this sense of likeness with the pig, which I like.

00:48:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too.

00:48:43
Speaker 6: Sean says he's been in the same situation as little Corey. He's not mad at Corey for taking to Panga side because he probably would have done the same thing.

00:48:50
Speaker 1: Corey says.

00:48:50
Speaker 6: Pigs and women man, Sean says, yeah, it's like my dad said, they'll both break your heart.

00:48:55
Speaker 5: I want that shirt so cute.

00:48:57
Speaker 4: Pigs and women man, they'll both break your Heart'll both break your heart.

00:49:00
Speaker 3: Now.

00:49:00
Speaker 1: I miss Blake Clark. When is he coming back too?

00:49:05
Speaker 4: He'll be around? I don't great, no idea.

00:49:07
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that.

00:49:08
Speaker 4: I actually don't know how much of the third season he plays.

00:49:11
Speaker 3: If he's in it at all, because it's all you and I know.

00:49:13
Speaker 1: Well, we had the phone call episode where he called in, but that's not the same. I want him back with you.

00:49:18
Speaker 4: I want to feel like he might not come back until after Jack, like after Matt's on the show. Which is is it that far? Really? Wow? I don't remember how I've got I think the point of the point of the Sewan storyline for the next two seasons is that he's been abandoned, but he's alone.

00:49:35
Speaker 3: I don't know, he's only there and Tony leaves after season three. After after season three, so Sean's got to live with somebody in between.

00:49:43
Speaker 1: Will find out when we watch, we'll find out where it's coming.

00:49:46
Speaker 5: In three years.

00:49:57
Speaker 6: Turner's apartment, Corey and Seawn are washing little Corey in a tub on the kitchen counter. You'll be surprised to hear the pig is eating again. Corey says it's killing him that his girlfriend and best friend aren't speaking. Sean says it's Tapanga's problem and he's just trying to live his life like any normal teenager. And then he asks to pass the pig shampoo again. Great read, funny joke, but the minute Sean says that it's Tapanga's problem, Hunter, Yeah, you're right, that's it. You win if Tapang is the one with the problem. You're just trying to live your life. Get the heck out of here.

00:50:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then Cory oversteps his bounds and just says he invited to pank over to show her what a great home little Corey has and how great this is for Sean. Sean asks, well, why would you do that? And Corey says, come on, I'm your friend, and Sean says, well, Topanga isn't okay.

00:50:45
Speaker 6: So even though we've had multiple conversations and scenes about where and things that make them seem like they're friends, I think we've tried to imply that Sean is very clear that Tapanga and Sean are not friends.

00:50:59
Speaker 3: Okay, it'd make for such great conflict going down the line of the show, yes, if we can.

00:51:03
Speaker 4: Well, But I think that one of the one of the the sort of assumptions that goes into this show is it is it is a generational assumption about men and women friendships and bad girl friendships. I think that there's an assumption that, like, you stay within your own gender with friends, So like I don't think Sean would consider to Panga a friend at this age, at this time. Does that make sense? Like, I don't know, Like I think that this is something that's like with my son, like he considers boys and girls friends equally. But I feel like back in the nineties, like you didn't have friends of the opposite gender.

00:51:41
Speaker 5: ID I did too, I did, I did too.

00:51:45
Speaker 4: But I'm saying like, but it was an assumption. Well, then maybe it was the previous generation that was writing. There's an assumption going into this that like that she is his best friend's girl, right, not she's not like part of his friends, I know.

00:52:00
Speaker 6: But like we have set up in other episodes that you can read me you have a crush on Cory and like.

00:52:07
Speaker 4: Well that's why I love that scene.

00:52:08
Speaker 6: And I know, yeah, I liked it too that it was like it was the three of us who knew each other, but now Corey and Topanga were just having a different relationship.

00:52:16
Speaker 4: So it's just well conflict, I mean, you always need conflict.

00:52:21
Speaker 3: Also, it's just clearly have no idea who Topanga is anymore, what to do, No, none agree, It's just completely just a p by week.

00:52:34
Speaker 5: Exactly.

00:52:34
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:52:35
Speaker 6: Well, the doorbell rings and Corey begs Sean to talk to Tapanga just for him. Sean says, one dig at him or little Corey, and she's gone to Pega walks in, says hy to Corey. Then tell Sean the light bulb and the hallway is out, and he may want to tell the super. Sean yells, that's it out. Corey tries to tell Sean there was no dig and he agrees he might be a little lower sensitive to Pega.

00:52:53
Speaker 5: Is ready very all funny.

00:52:55
Speaker 1: Very funny.

00:52:56
Speaker 5: Writer yep.

00:52:57
Speaker 6: Topanga is ready for Sean to prove how this is a good home for the pig, but Sean says he doesn't have to prove anything to her. And again, you're one hundred percent right, this should be over. You are in the right here. Corey does his best to step in and say how great of a parent Sean is. For example, right before Tapega got there, he was bathing the pig. Then Corey looks over to the tub on the counter and.

00:53:15
Speaker 1: Uh oh, little Corey is gone.

00:53:19
Speaker 6: Sean runs over to the empty tub and says, I left him in there so long. He turned to broth again. Writer, great joke, great joke.

00:53:26
Speaker 1: Perfect read.

00:53:27
Speaker 3: How how do they not hear the pig jump off, get out of the bath, jump off the table and walk by the three of them.

00:53:32
Speaker 4: That could jump off the door.

00:53:36
Speaker 5: In the doorway, Like how did the Yeah?

00:53:39
Speaker 3: I know, And it's like you'd have to go through the legs of you have to go through six legs to get out of the door.

00:53:45
Speaker 4: Like the blocking was why I went behind the cameras.

00:53:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

00:53:51
Speaker 4: Exactly.

00:53:53
Speaker 6: Corey notices the open door and Sean blames Tapega for letting him escape to point to. Pega points out that's what happens with pin pigs live in the city, which, like I mentioned, is not true because I watched in the city and.

00:54:05
Speaker 4: It's pick in the city. Is the Andy a couple of years ago? It is so good? Oh my god, it's so good.

00:54:13
Speaker 6: Sean goes out to look for Little Corey and Corey says he'll stay by the phone, and Casey calls. Just then Turner walks in holding Little Corey, who was outside heading towards the rib shack, and Sean fearfully says, suicide is an amazing read writer.

00:54:30
Speaker 4: You guys, you guys, I agree. I think the joke is funny.

00:54:35
Speaker 5: I know you're way too harsh on your way, too harsh.

00:54:38
Speaker 1: It's so good.

00:54:39
Speaker 6: Turner says, the pig has been nothing but trouble, and Topega says she did the right thing by calling animal control.

00:54:46
Speaker 4: Yike, are you kidding me?

00:54:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's huge, that's huge.

00:54:53
Speaker 6: Sean, scared of to Panga's actions, is leaving with Little Corey and asks Corey if he's coming with him. Corey thinks about it for a minute, then walks right past the p get to leave with Sean. Tapega tries to stop him, but Corey says she's put him in the middle, and as much as he loves her, that wasn't right, and calling animal control was too far.

00:55:08
Speaker 4: Binga think, yeah, I actually get like fined and like Sean could go, yes, it's.

00:55:16
Speaker 7: Not just.

00:55:18
Speaker 1: The cops called the pig cops.

00:55:20
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:55:21
Speaker 6: Sean and Corey leave to hide little Corey. Turner asks Topanga if she's okay, and she asks why he lets Sean keep the pig even though he doesn't like him. Turner says, it seems important to Sean, and when you've had the kind of life that he's had, Sean needs the pig more than the pig needs. Sean to Panga in point four seconds and rapid time, realizes that she made a big mistake. But you would never know that because I don't let you know with any sort of acting ability at all.

00:55:48
Speaker 1: It's just robot. It's a mistake, but it's also it's also in the writing too. He's said, are you okay? Why do you let him keep the pig? Well, because Sean needs the pig. I made a mistake, that's all. That's all. That's it.

00:56:07
Speaker 6: Sean's told you that multiple times it's my pig, leave me alone.

00:56:11
Speaker 3: What I don't Why Also such a change in Topanga, because first season Topango, or even part of second season to Pango would have seen this herself, with her amazing amount of empathy, that she'd be the one kind of saying no, don't you understand Sean needs the pig more than the page. She'd be the one driving all this. So it's really weird. They have no idea what they're doing with your character anymore.

00:56:35
Speaker 4: I don't want to.

00:56:35
Speaker 6: I don't want to keep harping on it. Then I have a hard time not doing We are at the opera. Eric and Feenie are sitting on the balcony at the opera. Eric throws a paper airplane of the opera.

00:56:47
Speaker 4: It's all blurry.

00:56:48
Speaker 5: I remember this seems a ton of fun because it was just Bill and I.

00:56:53
Speaker 4: That was it.

00:56:53
Speaker 5: It was Bill and I and and just saying dialogue.

00:56:57
Speaker 3: It was awesome, so much fun.

00:56:59
Speaker 6: When the paper airplane glides to the lower level, he yells heads and defeated. Phoene says, I trust that's your last one. Eric says he's dying. They've been there for two hours, but Phoene explains it's only been ten minutes. Phoene tells him to settle down and enjoy the evening, but Eric says, what's to enjoy. We got three fat tenors going at it in Italian. Then Eric starts singing I'm futterer than you are, and the couple next to him tell Eric to.

00:57:22
Speaker 1: Hush sh Eric.

00:57:24
Speaker 6: Starts to tell Feenie he appreciates him helping get into Yale, but Phoene cuts him off and says he couldn't get him into Yale. He couldn't even get him into a Yale sweatshirt, which is another great line. Eric says Peenie took his opera tickets and didn't complete the other half of the deal, but Phoene says the only deal he made is to be his teacher and his friend and to help make Eric a better person. But Eric doesn't want to be a better person. He just wants to party with the girl on the raft, and Phoene tells him he won't be doing that at Yale, so Eric says he came here for nothing. Phoene asks what if Eric does meet the girl on the raft or another girl and she has a passion for culture like opera because after this evening he would have something to talk to her about. Eric says, it's a nice try, but this kind of stuff is lost on a guy like him. Eric gets up to leave, but then he recognizes the music. It's bugs, Bunny Bugs, sonny funny.

00:58:14
Speaker 5: You know what I love about Chris. I love that.

00:58:18
Speaker 3: Feene is different with everybody else on the show than he is with Eric.

00:58:22
Speaker 1: Yep.

00:58:23
Speaker 3: He realizes that kind of the subtle tea that he has with everybody else is lost on Eric. So he's very straightforward with him, very You're not going to Yale. It's not gonna happen. Here's why I brought you here. It's such an interesting dynamic between the two of them, and it's seeing Feene totally different than he is with anybody else on the show.

00:58:41
Speaker 4: Yep.

00:58:41
Speaker 5: It's really cool. Yeah, you're right.

00:58:43
Speaker 6: There's also a little bit of like we've talked about how with Corey, we we're pretty confident Corey's gonna turn out okay.

00:58:50
Speaker 1: So even when Corey is acting.

00:58:52
Speaker 6: Like a little bit of a dumb dumb with Sean Phoene can be a little sarcastic and just walk off because ultimately he knows he's okay, but it really you do get the sense that Feene knows you may not be yeh, and he needs to work with you. He needs to find a way to connect with you and to have the separate relationship with you, which is really nice and also exactly what every incredible teacher, like our own Wesley Staples, David Combs what they do.

00:59:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I do. Miss Corey Feene dynamics me too, because especially the last time we really saw it was Danger Boy, right Danger Yeah, this is a Danger Boys in the name of the episode. Yeah, just so great when they sort of bond over their you know, fussiness and like and how and everyone misjudges them. I want to I want that back. I want Corey. And then I think think about the end of season one when Phoene's in the hospital. Those are like great scenes, and I think that's gone for a while. Now it's gone.

00:59:47
Speaker 5: I think it's gone.

00:59:48
Speaker 3: It comes back later, but I almost think it comes back only to allude to what it used to be, as opposed to coming back for what it was, if that makes sense.

00:59:58
Speaker 5: So it's uh, yeah, it's interesting.

01:00:00
Speaker 3: They've kind of they've paired up Eric and Feenie now, and I think this is kind of what you're going to see, yeah, which is great. I mean totally it's a different dynamic, but I know what you mean. Yeah, those were great scenes with Feenie and Corey.

01:00:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, really worth So Phoene corrects Eric that it's Wagner and Eric says they're talking cartoons.

01:00:17
Speaker 1: Phoene is way out of his league.

01:00:19
Speaker 6: This is great usage of public domain music, by the way, Yeah, really good usage. It's all it's when you have to use public domain stuff, it can be hard to work it in. But this was really great.

01:00:27
Speaker 4: My first thought when Eric turned around, I was like, is he going to say apocalypse now? And right right, I was like, what does he recognize that?

01:00:34
Speaker 5: I remember it was buggers?

01:00:35
Speaker 4: This bug's bunny.

01:00:36
Speaker 6: And then we're in the Matthews living room. Corey and Sean have moved the pig and are hiding him at the Matthews house. Sean asks, isn't it obvious to move him here, and Corey says, no, hiding the pig at old McDonald's house, now, that would be obvious. Cory says, if he knows Tapanga, he bets she didn't even call animal control and then perfectly timed the doorbell rings. Corey says he's a big, fat, stupid head, and he walks over to answer the door, and as predicted, it's Victor from Animal Control played by Richard Karn, who deserved the Room McClanahan treatment but doesn't get it because we know it's like.

01:01:05
Speaker 4: There's this moment where he gets off the glasses. I was like, well, oh, I know you want it.

01:01:10
Speaker 1: He deserves it. I don't know. I don't know.

01:01:12
Speaker 3: You figured the audience is going to know him way better than they knew Rue McClanahan.

01:01:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Well, the problem is we didn't do it in front of a live on and so he missed out the opportunity to like to take the pause and make that appearance, or to take the pause. But you think if I were directing this, I would have inserted it right.

01:01:28
Speaker 1: And then there's an uproarious applause. You hold there.

01:01:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know the show on television at the time. Ye you know. But maybe that's part of the problem is that he was already he was like a regular in everybody's household, so like, yeah, they're just used to it. Yeah, maybe you know because rum McLanahan was like a callback to like remember her from you know, three or four years ago or whenever. Girls, this is still yeah.

01:01:52
Speaker 3: True yeah.

01:01:53
Speaker 6: Victor says, by law, he's required to show his badge, and then he flashes Sean and Corey's driver's license. He explains his animal can they don't give him badges? Victor starts looking around and says, you got a pig?

01:02:03
Speaker 1: I want him.

01:02:04
Speaker 6: Sean asks Victor to describe the pig, and Victor says he looks like a great big lion. Sean says, oh, that's not our pig, which, again.

01:02:11
Speaker 3: I also love how instantly Sean changes when he's around authority. He becomes schemer again, like, well, wait a second, let me like he's been this quiet kind of hey, I want to be with the pig, but now there's somebody with authority around, and he instantly becomes like a wells, I mean's such a trailer park kid thing authorities around, authorities around.

01:02:29
Speaker 4: Well, let's see if we can get rid of this guy. Well, describe it.

01:02:32
Speaker 5: Like he instantly changed again. I thought that was cool.

01:02:34
Speaker 1: It is cool.

01:02:35
Speaker 7: Yeah.

01:02:35
Speaker 6: Corey asks Victor to vacate his home or else he'll be forced to call the animal control control people, and Sean says, that's right, little Corey. And then Little Corey the pig comes downstairs right on que probably because somebody told him we have food.

01:02:49
Speaker 1: Sean says, okay, who shaved the dog?

01:02:51
Speaker 5: Shaved the dog.

01:02:52
Speaker 6: Victor puts a leash on Little Corey and says the neighborhood is not zoned for pigs. He says to keep it on the QT, but he has a twenty foot boa his truck he can slip Sean if he wants it. Sean asks if he can just say goodbye to Little Corey. He takes the little pig aside and says he's going to find out where Little Corey ends up so he can go visit him, because he knows what it's like being passed from home to home. I did think there could have been we could normally we talk so much about how when something sentimental to play opposite the sentimentality.

01:03:20
Speaker 1: But I did feel like there was a moment.

01:03:22
Speaker 6: Here where I was almost like, Sean seems relieved to have the pig, Like Sean seems like, you know what, honestly this was about.

01:03:29
Speaker 4: Should have actually been sad, Like yeah, you're a little more torn up.

01:03:33
Speaker 6: I felt like maybe there there could have been a room for there to be a little more right.

01:03:37
Speaker 4: If this were a Jeff Sherman's script, Yeah right, or a Matt Nelson's script, I imagine Sean would have had a monologue to the pig.

01:03:45
Speaker 5: Yeah something, yeah, yeah.

01:03:49
Speaker 4: I guess I'll see later, little guy. Yeah we're going to be okay. You can know you're gonna lose your best friend, your best friend's girl, exactly.

01:04:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, there could have been just I felt like there was a little something missing there. So Sean is about to handle little Corey back, but to Panga walks in just in the nick of time and says, you can't take this pig. Victor pulls out his notes and reads off to Pango Lawrence going out with Corey Matthews for two months. I'm way too overqualified for this job. To Penga says, after she called animal control, she found an ad for a lost pig and called its owners, so now they don't have to take little Corey away. The owner walks in, who happens to be mister Turner. Turner says the pig belongs to his boy z. Then everyone says Zed.

01:04:35
Speaker 3: And Danielle, you take a moment to look directly at the camera, do I you do? You do want somebody Scanner rounds like I don't know what you're to go about, Like you make nice eye contact with it.

01:04:48
Speaker 4: Everybody there in the.

01:04:49
Speaker 5: Audience, right.

01:04:50
Speaker 6: I can't wait to add that to my list of other things I do that are terrible Turner jokes. Actually my arc is outside and I'm one pig short. Victor isn't happy and tells Turner over your head, we're going downtown.

01:05:02
Speaker 4: Did you guys think the Z thing was a reference to pulp fiction?

01:05:05
Speaker 1: Oh? I never thought of it. Jenson Karp just said yes.

01:05:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, because pulp fiction had come out either ninety four, so this is ninety five. So it was like such in the po all I could think was is this a conscious pulp fiction reference? I said yeah, okay.

01:05:22
Speaker 6: So Turner asks if he's kidding, and he says, yes, too, can play the sarcasm game. Victor hands mister Turner the pig, says, give my best to Z and reveals the offer for the twenty foot Boa still stands. Sean asks if he has a card, and he scoffs no. They don't even give us badges. Then he puts on his aviators and he walks out. Richard Karn came in and just gave us five solid minutes of carnage.

01:05:45
Speaker 1: Richard Carnage. He's just a killer.

01:05:48
Speaker 4: So much he doesn't have a podcast called Carnage.

01:05:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm producing that.

01:05:53
Speaker 4: One, really missing that opportunity.

01:05:55
Speaker 6: I want you guys to know we get some ish for having super obscure merch, but uh, we were thinking of making the animal control hat Richard Karn is wearing, but we've decided to hold off because that might just be too Niche. Turner says, Hunter, I must really like you, and then he hands the pig back to him. Sean asks Topanga why she changed her mind, and she says, number one, it's not her pig, and number two, Sean isn't just Corey's best friend, he's her friend too, And I feel like someone should tell Topanga that the feeling is not mutual, that Sean specifically said she's not my friend. And now I'm just uncomfy with this friendship. Sean and Topanga hug and Corey says, I think the pig is tearing up and writer's feeding him again, because we have to keep the pig here and we have to keep him happy. So writer's feeding the piker, and then we're in our tag. We're at the opera. It's the end of the opera. Phoene is clapping and Eric is yelling more while throwing flowers toward the stage. Poene is trying to leave, but Eric is still yelling more. He says, Feene opened up a whole new world for him, and women will be so impressed with his knowledge of culture. Eric yells fortissimo and waves his arms back and forth. Phoene said he is tired and he wants to go home, and Eric calls him cranky. Eric asks what happens if he meets a girl who likes ballet and asks Phoenie if they can go see that. Phoene says, yes, another time when I felt like the writers here were influenced by our very own genius teacher David Combs.

01:07:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, seems like they could have been.

01:07:27
Speaker 1: Definitely yeah, yep, So Phoene says yes.

01:07:30
Speaker 6: Phoenie keeps trying to leave, but Eric says he can't leave until something big happens. Phoene says, nothing happens, It just ends. Then Eric asks who the fat lady is on stage and we hear singing. Eric says, all right, we can go home now.

01:07:40
Speaker 5: Hi, we can go home there.

01:07:42
Speaker 6: Well, you must have had so much fun working with Bill and these little moments where it.

01:07:47
Speaker 3: Was like we were both in tuxedos and we were in the set we'd never been in before, and it was just the two of us, and it was really.

01:07:53
Speaker 4: A lot of fun.

01:07:54
Speaker 3: I loved scenes like this, just just Bill and myself working together were some of my favorite moments.

01:08:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just so fun.

01:08:02
Speaker 6: Every scene with you guys is enjoyable, So I love it. Thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. You can follow us on Instagram pod meets World Show. You can send us your emails podmeets World Show at gmail dot com, and we have merch Merche Italian Italian. I knew that one. Next episode, Season three, episode seven, Truth and Consequences. It originally aired November tenth, nineteen ninety five. Writer send us out, We.

01:08:28
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